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We almost QUIT everything! (After Maghrib Podcast is BACK) · After Maghrib 🌙

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  Lights on stage set, seats locked in.
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  We're officially inviting you to Rising Dawn on the 1st of
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  We've got some big news for you brothers and sisters after
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  All I'm saying is you guys better book your tickets now.
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  Salaam Alaikum and welcome back to a brand new season on the
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  aftermath of podcast. Season 5 is here and that means
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  we're back to having our weekly conversations.
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  I genuinely miss being on the seat and I genuinely miss our
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  weekly conversations. And I genuinely miss being with
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  the aftermath of team, my brothers Ahmed and of course,
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  Muhammad Ali. And when I say that, I genuinely
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  mean that. And why?
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  Why? I mean, that is normally for me
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  when I'm with a group of people, only a certain number of
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  brothers. When I'm in their presence, I
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  feel at ease, I feel at peace. I have Sokun and of course there
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  are other names to mention. But if I mention all their
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  names, this won't be after Maghrib, as we'll be here until
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  after Fajr. Enough of me, it's time to go
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  straight to our brothers Ahmed Muhammad Salamari.
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  I miss your voice. We're back schlonic.
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  We're back. Hamdallah season 555.
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  Season 5 and the 5th studio. That's right, that's right,
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  that's right. 3 1/2 years in five studios, Hamden.
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  But we made it Hamdallah, Hamdallah.
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  It's been nice. It's been, it's been a few
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  months off, right? Five months, five months, five
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  months, five months, I think. Studio 5 Studios Our.
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  Final episode was on the 14th of August 2025, the arbine of Imam
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  Hussain. And now we're at what?
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  That was before we first. Of January.
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  That was the last episode when it released.
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  Yes, We Lost, filmed in July. Now we're now we're like New
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  Year's time in it. That must have been right before
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  we flew out. Yeah, it was before you guys
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  before because I remember in that episode we were, we didn't
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  know where the guys. Were going yeah, exactly,
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  exactly was. Saying if you get the
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  opportunity and that's crazy, well, it's good to be back and
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  it's good to be back with you guys at home.
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  Wow, it's been a journey, hasn't it?
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  But listen for everyone here. Thank you for your patience,
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  thank you for your support. A lot has happened with us.
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  Hope everything is going well with you.
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  Before we get into the Aftermarket podcast, we want to
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  talk. And today in Charlotte, we're
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  going to be talking about a load of different things.
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  So make sure we stay till the very end.
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  But we just want to catch up with each other.
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  I guess we do. It's not as if we don't see each
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  other all the time, but. As in, we've still been here in
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  and out between two different studios.
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  Yeah, we can be honest. So we've been in, in fact, we
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  speak daily on the aftermath of WhatsApp group chat.
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  Have that ever, you know, leaks? And we're finished.
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  How's life been, man? Hamdallah, Hamdallah with your
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  daughter. It's been hectic but busy time,
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  Stressful at times, remarkable, you know, But you know, I was, I
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  was speaking before we start filming today.
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  I was speaking to a friend of mine from school days, and we're
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  talking about being a dad and family life.
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  And I was telling him, yeah, man, like, kids are amazing.
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  I love being a father. Hamdullah was the biggest
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  blessing. Obviously there are hard days,
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  he said. You know what they say?
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  He said children are the perfume of God.
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  Now, I don't know if that is, you know, we want to share next
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  doors. I don't know if that's something
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  we'll get in trouble. Obviously, it's metaphorical
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  before I get cancelled. No, in the sense that you smell
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  the beauty of creation with children and their innocence and
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  their purity. But yeah, Hamdullah, when I look
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  back on it, because now we're at the end.
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  We've just, you know, finished another year now, Hamdullah.
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  And it's been amazing. And happy New Year, by the way,
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  guys. But yes, my biggest
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  accomplishment of the last year was making it through the last
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  year, if I'm honest, you know, Al Hamdallah, having a healthy
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  family and keeping it going, man, Hamdallah.
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  What about you, bro? Man, you know, when you're
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  speaking about being a father, like I think it's the first time
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  I come back, I can actually be part of that conversation about
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  about a. Mum.
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  Yeah. And Hamdallah is obviously
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  growing up and it's like you say, obviously you learn a lot
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  about yourself as well as like you go through the experience.
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  Obviously it's early months or we're not even up to a year yet.
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  So I still feel like I have a lot to learn and a lot to kind
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  of, you know, take away from the experience and to to kind of
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  also introspect as well. Like, you know, because when you
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  have the child, it makes you think a lot about how you act as
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  well around the kid, your own actions, right?
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  You start looking at yourself and thinking, OK, is this what I
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  want my kid to, to learn from me, right.
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  So yeah, I think it's a life changing experience entirely.
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  Like, you know, we're nine months in.
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  How? Many napkins.
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  Do you change a week? OK, well, OK, we're going to
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  keep some information confidential and shout out love.
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  I've changed the mothers. But we're going to keep
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  information. But yeah, yeah, OK, fair enough,
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  how we say. Voila.
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  You know, in the last five months, I, I think maybe 2-3
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  weeks prior to our final episode when we recorded, I went through
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  every season that one can face as a human being.
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  I think from challenges, obstacles, everything.
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  I mean that whether it's family, financially, at the workplace,
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  after month with everything. Upside down, but.
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  But we're here, we still carry on, we still breathe and come to
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  love for everything. There's the reason why I
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  mentioned that is because for me it's been like, I don't want to
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  say struggle, but I think it's been a journey and understanding
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  how God works mysteriously behind the scenes, that whatever
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  you go through, the high, the low, the difficult, the easy,
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  you put your trust in Allah. Allah, you put your trust and
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  Allah, Azoa Jen, he opens your doors, He opens you.
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  Not just one door, many doors. And I think sometimes we forget
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  that Allah is there for us. You know what I mean?
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  That. You had to build all those doors
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  because you, for those who don't know, have turned into Bob the
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  Builder I. Have and whoever asks me, I say
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  I'm building Noah's Ark. Yeah, why King now?
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  Recently moved home, so Hamdallah, I've been busy with
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  carpentry, I've been busy with painting, I've been busy with
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  plumbing. No, for like the plumbing and
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  electrics. The good thing I was at was, you
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  know, putting a nail on the floorboard and bursting the the
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  hot water pipes that got on the that was my plumbing experience.
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  But apart from that, bro, it's been hot, it's been difficult.
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  This is rewarding. It's your own place bad.
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  So when you put your F in, you reap the rules That was.
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  That beautiful reel as well? It's not.
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  Continuous. It was a beautiful rule of you
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  reciting as well as you were doing the solid.
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  Yeah, I've been driving the family crazy.
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  Yeah. All they hear is drills, Safra
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  and Allah. Nami Hussain.
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  That's it. Sounds so.
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  Beautiful. What must you want in the house?
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  What about aftermarket? So let's talk about.
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  haven't been here before. But basically you can go over
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  and see some of our selected highlights in the last 12
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  months. It's been a lot like we've had a
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  lot happening and we had a hard time selecting like small things
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  from each month or like key highlights.
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  Should we go through them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to
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  get up and. Rate, this is what we're going
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  to do. Yeah, we're going to rate the
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  experience out of 10. OK.
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  And you can't just be like turn, turn 99109 should get me solid
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  Yeah, you have to tell me that. OK.
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  Yeah, go on. So January.
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  January. January 1st Annual Aftermarket
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  Prevent. 10/10/10 out of. 10 easy I mean. 10:10 10/10 On
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  every scale I. Think that might be like the
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  easiest 10 of. Hamdullah, Hamdullah, Why we
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  why, why? Why is that an important
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  discussion for us to have now? We'll come to that later.
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  No, come to. It now rising.
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  Dawn, bro. Rising.
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  And of course we're going to have like different panels as
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  well where where we discuss different aspects of it.
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  So we're going to have like an academic discussion.
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  And of course there will be a discussion if you can remind me
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  what the first panel is about to.
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  Be honest, we are unlocked in the topic if I'm but if I'm not
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  mistake, it's something contemporary, right?
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  How to build an ecosystem which is ready and prepared for the
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  Imam ultimately, like actual practical day-to-day life.
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  You know, we hear so often a lot of cliche stuff and you know,
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  but sometimes it seems out of touch.
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  So like, yeah, yeah, Mama actually I need to remember Mama
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  T But then we crack on with our lines and then we circle back.
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  So that's January. That's January.
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  And now February. February. 2025.
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  February 2025 moves into our little studio which.
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  Sounds crazy considering. We're somewhere else, right?
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  So last February we moved into our 4th, No, our third studio,
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  right? Yes. 3rd.
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  Last February, we moved into our third studio.
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  We were there for like 4 months and we'll come to why we had to
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  leave that. Sense should go to March.
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  How? Would you rate that move process
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  10? I enjoyed that studio.
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  I think was my favorite studio I apart from the one we're in now.
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  I. Don't think I had a problem with
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  it. I think we just I just think
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  Hadley has said much about went through a lot moving things,
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  setting up things, speech behind the scenes.
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  So for me it's 1010, right? But for him, unless one. .31
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  point 3 out of 10. -10 finally that studio was a bit cold as
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  well. Nah, I like it.
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  I. Like it?
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  I'm cold right now. Yeah.
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  I mean, it's OK because we've just moved into this, so it
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  would, it would do. Now March, March, March, you say
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  March and March with Shataramavan.
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  Right. Yeah, it was.
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  This. Was my Ahmed leaving the
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  podcast? Oh.
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  Yeah, my bad, my bad, my bad. The podcast.
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  No, I took a sabbatical and I was like, yeah, and said I only
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  made it into a whole thing like Lion King, you know, look at the
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  way he's holding it up like Lion King.
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  But no, it was, look, I don't know if I ever clarified it or
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  not. No, I don't know if you did.
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  People are still asking me. Until today, they didn't.
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  Ahmed leave What? Happened there.
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  No, look, I in all honesty, like all of us had some like down
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  weeks and I was like, I need more time.
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  I need to refocus, recalibrate, like my priorities.
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  And I still feel like I need to do that if I'm honest.
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  But at the same time, I realised that part of my priorities is
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  the bigger mission, which we're trying to serve.
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  And my own humble way of doing that is, is working with after
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  market of media groups. That means everything we do.
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  So from the podcast to Jamaa nights to golden Hour to Hold my
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  heart to rising dawn and timeless resilience and all
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  these other shows, products, productions that we're doing and
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  also things that we have forthcoming, you know, working
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  with people around the world who've got incredible and
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  aligned vision with us from like a more strategic point of view.
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  So aside from just the hosting, which is great and we love it,
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  but there's things that need to be done and there's void that
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  needs to be filled. So I took I think it was like 4
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  or five weeks off and then slowly reintegrated.
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  And it was also a case which is I think because we knew a lot
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  was coming up, Sharon Mavan then two or three months later is
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  Muharram and then of Baeen. And it's a lot of work for us.
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  So yeah, can. You admit, though, that it was
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  just slightly dramatic. Can I just say something?
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  Yeah. Can I say for me, slightly For
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  me. I don't think I dramatized
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  anything. Yeah, it's gonna look at me.
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  Yeah. For it I.
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  Told you guys. The posts were going crazy.
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  People were acting like you, no. Bro, I put out a thing I put on
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  my by the way, my Instagram is private as friends and family
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  only. Yeah, yeah.
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  So I was like, guys, just for your information for a few
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  weeks, I'm stepping back from hosting.
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  I'll be back soon. This is what I said, right?
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  Yeah. Said Ali put out a thing.
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  I can't believe this date has calm.
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  You know, my mother, like prays for you every day.
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  And now you've left us and there was a whole thing.
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  Bro. Please bro.
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  I appreciate you. I appreciate you generally lost.
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  I really. Appreciate, I'll say.
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  Wish of all you had. You had good noise and.
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  Honestly, you had. Great people sitting in my
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  chair. That's my last name.
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  They did a great job. They're lovely and you know, may
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  I love all them and they're still part of the team as well,
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  but. You're not leaving.
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  No, as of right now, I have no intention to Hamden, OK.
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  So yeah, Hamden, before I get. Like, you know.
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  April, April, this is this one's from Hamad Ali, concluded the
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  Jumaha Knights series. There's people who still haven't
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  watched Jumaha Knights who are watching What is Jumaha Knights?
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  Jumah Knights. So first of all, I don't even
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  agree with this. Like concluding the Jumah
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  Knights series, the Jumah Knights series concluded a lot.
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  Before that we had a question and answer series which was a
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  one off kind of show and that was the conclusion of that show.
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  That is being like spoken about in the rapt.
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  But John Knights basically is just to be specific and be clear
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  about John Knights, but John Knights basically was like an
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  academic show where we were introducing the viewers to
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  academic literature, looking at specific theological arguments
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  and looking at the basic argumentation that is used in
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  the Quran in the Sunna. And hoping that through that
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  experience, going through all of those episodes, 15, the, the
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  viewer would be able to at least be familiar with the classical
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  books of hadith, know what they are, who they're written by,
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  what is roughly in them, and how to kind of engage with the
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  literature. It's just sort of a kind of
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  encouragement to for, for, for young people to start looking
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  into the literature of Athelbait to get familiar with it and to
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  feel like they can connect with it.
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  So Jumma and I essentially that's all it was.
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  It was about connecting with literature and connecting with
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  the Imam of our time. And yeah, inshallah, like, you
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  know, I hope it was beneficial when no, it was 100% it was
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  useful. So it was it.
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  Was really, really good. Me.
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  I came in to find the studio Fly.
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  Yeah. Man, I came in, I came in, I
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  came in on like a Saturday night or something and I realized that
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  the the furniture was wet. The chair you're seeing because,
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  well, not that one we have. We have another one which is
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  over there. But this is not Italian lever.
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  Yeah, it was, it was, it was wet.
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  And then that the German. Lamp was.
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  Wet. The lamp was wet.
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  And then a few other things. That's the German lamp we
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  realized. Just saying.
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  Yeah, we realized that there was a leak at the top and then the
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  floor was wet and then, you know, said most of our came in a
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  couple days or I don't know when it was he came in and then we
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  put up the he made the makeshift pipe or something like, yeah, it
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  was crazy that. Was devastating.
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  It was the start of the and. Then and then the leak was
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  controlled and then we had an episode to record.
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  Yeah, and the guest on the way and start leaking all guy again.
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  It's like mid episode. Yeah.
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  OK. So that experience like a one
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  out of 10/1? Hour 10 we're.
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  Definitely one out of 10 that's not the same because we were
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  only there for a few months. It was like I really enjoyed
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  moving in February, May. We, you know what we had for
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  context for people we didn't have, we had a lot of supporters
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  and Hamdullah like a lot of people back us and we, Allah
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  guided us to the right places at the right times.
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  So we were in the 1st place and then we had to leave for like
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  other reasons, organizational reasons.
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  The 2nd place we moved into was always going to be a temporary
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  place, as was the 3rd place. Yes, right.
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  Yes. And the fourth place, which was
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  the floodplace, Yes, We didn't want to leave.
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  We thought we were there for the next few years.
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  This is the 6th studio. This is the #5 yeah, we had.
• 19:10
  This is we had. Neesden we had, Wellsden,
• 19:13
  Wellsden we had. And.
• 19:16
  Then we had. Yeah.
• 19:18
  Perryville, Staples Corner, Staples Corner.
• 19:21
  And then imagine number six Row that is crazy.
• 19:26
  Studios, Studios in 3 1/2 years. Wow, that's crazy.
• 19:29
  Wow, wow. It's just now that when we
• 19:31
  started counting them, we realized we're like, do you
• 19:32
  know? Why we you know why we didn't
• 19:34
  count Staples Corner? Because we didn't do the
• 19:36
  podcast. Yeah.
• 19:37
  We didn't. Yeah.
• 19:38
  We have some memories there. Yeah, but not like a lot.
• 19:41
  Yeah. Interesting.
• 19:42
  So that was our fourth studio. So last year, effectively 2025,
• 19:47
  we've been in three studios. We did gold an hour there
• 19:50
  though. Yeah, we did.
• 19:50
  Gold an hour, yes. Yes, yes, yes.
• 19:53
  OK, cool. OK.
• 19:55
  We're going to get there. It's not May, June.
• 19:57
  June we've got had some heartfelt discussions for
• 19:59
  Muharram. Muharram was very nice and I
• 20:02
  think we every year at Hamdullah, and you'll agree,
• 20:04
  said we have timeless conversations year on year, of
• 20:08
  course. So whether it's done, what, Four
• 20:09
  Seasons of aftermath, I think in most, if not all of those
• 20:12
  seasons, there's been a Muharram.
• 20:13
  There has been, yeah. And.
• 20:15
  All of them happened in are timeless because talking about
• 20:17
  the story of Muhammad Hussein and Salaam is timeless.
• 20:20
  And you can go back guys. And I'd recommend to always
• 20:24
  check out our previous content previous years.
• 20:27
  We try to make conversations that are timeless so you can
• 20:29
  listen to them at any point in time.
• 20:31
  There was a time where we did like occasion specific stuff
• 20:34
  like the the World Cup and you know, things like that.
• 20:37
  But really and truly we try to make content that you can hear
• 20:41
  five years from now they still benefit you talking about family
• 20:45
  life or social issues or community issues, theological
• 20:48
  issues, whatever they might be. My harm falls into that, very
• 20:51
  much so. But we had some great guests,
• 20:53
  amazing guests. Great.
• 20:55
  Great content we mixed up from scholars and community members
• 21:00
  and friends and also just one to ones with me and said Ali.
• 21:03
  So it was. It was and yourself.
• 21:04
  So it was nice. Hamdullah enjoyed it, yeah.
• 21:07
  One last 1010. Ten, yeah.
• 21:09
  Muharram was a 10/10, yeah. Gentle July July had to vacate
• 21:14
  our studio and find another space.
• 21:16
  I feel like I feel like most of the year is just us moving
• 21:19
  around. Half the flies are.
• 21:20
  Moving. What's that fish?
• 21:21
  So our landlord. For context, people are like,
• 21:24
  why are these guys like just moving like?
• 21:26
  Yeah, like basically. Caravan No, we we got asked to
• 21:30
  leave because our landlord was selling the building.
• 21:33
  So to compromise with that landlord, we basically said like
• 21:37
  we don't want to leave, it's not contractual, you didn't give us
• 21:40
  enough notice. So he said, OK, fine, I'll give
• 21:42
  you another place I own which was alhamdulillah, like also a
• 21:46
  good space, good size, good location for us.
• 21:49
  And he managed, we managed to negotiate a three month rent
• 21:53
  free contract, which then we were in from July.
• 21:56
  Oh, when was it? I don't know, August or
• 21:58
  September up until December. So yeah, yeah, we'd start
• 22:02
  packing out June or whatever. And that's.
• 22:04
  Where we filmed a number of shows and we'll get to that
• 22:07
  soon. I think the next, next slide,
• 22:09
  yeah, must be. August.
• 22:12
  Yeah. Go on.
• 22:12
  Yeah. Worked alongside Eternal Echoes
• 22:15
  at hodjet and hodjet for the Echoes of Karbala production,
• 22:19
  which was a beautiful memory of Damon.
• 22:22
  I think that was the. Best aside from the podcast, but
• 22:24
  I think that was the best memory I have.
• 22:26
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. The hit my levels off the chart.
• 22:31
  I'm not even joking. So for those who aren't aware,
• 22:35
  which I'm sure most people won't be, but our local centre in
• 22:39
  London did something very different for Adebayeen and or
• 22:43
  before Adebayeen and it was basically like an immersive
• 22:47
  sensory experience, OK? And they had over 1000 people
• 22:50
  turn up and it was like a station you walk into and you
• 22:54
  have different stations, different rooms, audio, visual,
• 22:58
  sound, everything, touch, feel, the whole shebang, even VR.
• 23:01
  VR. Everything.
• 23:02
  And we spent like 989 nights working to build the station
• 23:10
  from scratch. It was so resourceful.
• 23:12
  We had like 40 young volunteers from different backgrounds come
• 23:15
  together. And then we obviously had the
• 23:17
  event after Mahadev had a live podcast.
• 23:19
  I say a live pod. We did like had like 20 or 22
• 23:22
  podcasts on that day. And we did like random audience
• 23:25
  members came up. We'd have a deep chat for 10-15
• 23:28
  minutes and then we'd rotate and the next batch would come in and
• 23:30
  we'd do this. It was really fun.
• 23:32
  But yeah, big, big. If anyone's in London next year,
• 23:34
  it'd definitely be worth coming to if there's a name to give.
• 23:37
  A shout out to Who would you give it to?
• 23:40
  One name I. Can't give one name.
• 23:41
  One name, no one. Name if I.
• 23:43
  Had to shout one person who I know, this is the podcast, my
• 23:46
  brother Jabra Murali Jabs. He was the visionary behind the
• 23:50
  event. Then he brought Hamdul.
• 23:52
  I brought myself in my wife who's a set designer.
• 23:56
  She built kind of the station like that was her brand,
• 24:00
  project, idea, concept, Hossein Sokhni, a lot of people,
• 24:04
  Hosseini Ram told. There's a There's too many
• 24:07
  people. That's why I said one name.
• 24:08
  Yeah, it's too many. It's.
• 24:09
  Impossible. But obviously the guys, the
• 24:11
  wall, Yeah, The guy who ran it was jabs.
• 24:13
  Obviously I wasn't. Able to make it to the actual
• 24:16
  event, but I came after. But just recently, I was in one
• 24:20
  of those moods where I was listening to Last Me Art and I
• 24:22
  was just like, you know, like, really like emotional crying,
• 24:26
  sad. And I remember I was messaging
• 24:28
  on the group chat, on after my group chat, and I was saying,
• 24:30
  guys, I'm broken right now. Like, you know, I'm vulnerable.
• 24:34
  Yeah. How it goes to me?
• 24:36
  You're vulnerable. I've got something for you.
• 24:38
  And he just said some of the audios from the from the echoes
• 24:43
  of Karbala. Bro, I was finished.
• 24:45
  We. Yeah, we.
• 24:46
  From scratch finished we. Sound engineered.
• 24:49
  Different scenes from the Karbala epic, you know, horror
• 24:53
  meeting Imam Hussein, Ali Salah, then Imam Hussein Holding Ali
• 24:57
  Asgar and Haramala and all of that.
• 24:59
  Then the third station was Saeed Zeynab in Sham and the fourth
• 25:03
  station was Imam Sajad and his back and forth with Yazid in
• 25:07
  Sham, which was like Ali, which was like and all of them were
• 25:11
  amazing. They were next force.
• 25:12
  Overs and. Genuinely, I was so.
• 25:14
  Broke. Like he caught me at such a
• 25:16
  vulnerable moment that I was literally like crying for the
• 25:19
  rest of the day. It was probably fun.
• 25:21
  It was crazy. August Part 2.
• 25:23
  August Part 2. That was a 10 out of 10
• 25:24
  experience. 100% Hamdallah. August Part 2 was, by the best
• 25:30
  of all, of a father. Salaam alaai.
• 25:33
  Salaam alaai Ali. Yeah.
• 25:35
  Karbala taking. A young man from the suburbs of
• 25:40
  Yorkshire. So for context of Karbala on a
• 25:43
  second year running, Al Hamdallah after Mahatma had the
• 25:46
  blessing and opportunity to partner with the media
• 25:48
  department of the Shrine of Hazard Abbas Al Salaam Al Kafil
• 25:51
  Media. Shout out to them.
• 25:53
  Great friends of ours do incredible work.
• 25:56
  And this year the both of you went with our friend Wilf
• 26:00
  Lovett, who of course you guys probably know him on Instagram
• 26:03
  and TikTok. Great influencer does incredible
• 26:05
  like theological discovery work into different religions.
• 26:09
  He's finished his segment on Islam and now he's moved on to
• 26:12
  Christianity. But you took Wilf to Kabbalah.
• 26:15
  We did, and I. Think it was a different
• 26:17
  experience altogether because normally you, you fly with
• 26:20
  people who already know what the environment is, what everyone's
• 26:24
  heading towards, what Ziara is, what Imam Hussein stood for, who
• 26:28
  his brother was, a Buffalo, Abbas, Ali, Salama.
• 26:30
  This time you had to explain everything and go over the the
• 26:35
  different aspects, not just in regards to Ziara or Imam Hussain
• 26:39
  or Karbala Ashura. No, I felt like Muhammad then.
• 26:42
  Correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like we had to like do
• 26:45
  Shia Islam 101. Yeah, completely.
• 26:48
  From. Beginning and a shala.
• 26:49
  I think it's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:51
  And you know what the best people to do?
• 26:52
  That when you get to. You get to Karbala, you're
• 26:54
  talking about Rahman Hussain, the conversation straight will
• 26:57
  be like, OK, why did this happen when you go by this like.
• 27:01
  OK, so the bigger? You go back to all the way back
• 27:03
  to like the FIFA why, Right. And then you're like discussing
• 27:06
  all of these different things. And then it's like, OK, now I
• 27:08
  just have to tell you everything.
• 27:09
  Yeah. And go through each.
• 27:11
  But that's good. And do you know you?
• 27:12
  Guys, Marshall are the best people for that and I'm not just
• 27:15
  saying that. And he was, he's really lucky to
• 27:18
  have been in your hands and to be guided by you guys.
• 27:20
  And I know you had other brothers with you who I'm sure
• 27:23
  did a really good job as well. But like for anyone who goes to
• 27:28
  Karbala, not a Muslim. And there's a year before when
• 27:31
  Said Ali and I went, we met 4-5 guys not Muslims, and we spent
• 27:36
  some time with them. Not as much as you did with
• 27:37
  Wolf, but they all are just taken aback by the emotive
• 27:42
  element of. And just a shock.
• 27:44
  The generosity, the the lock of the mannerisms and then and all
• 27:49
  of that. Just the sheer numbers.
• 27:50
  The numbers, yeah. I think.
• 27:52
  That's enough to take back anybody and I'm sure Wilf.
• 27:56
  Would and all of the other brothers would all say that yeah
• 27:59
  I felt safe and yeah I felt like like it was a lifetime of
• 28:05
  experience of a lifetime and I'd go again absolutely like it's a
• 28:07
  sign to boys encourage friends and family who are not Muslim
• 28:11
  even or not Shia to come to Arbayan of course I think by.
• 28:14
  The end of it, he was genuinely moved.
• 28:17
  I think he did genuinely like start connection, yeah, start to
• 28:22
  feel a connection. I think like obviously when it
• 28:25
  when he first kind of got there and stuff, I think he was quite
• 28:29
  overwhelmed and quite eager to, you know, have a look at Najaf
• 28:33
  and stuff. And that really surprised me.
• 28:34
  Actually, one of the things that surprised me was when we got
• 28:37
  back, I think, and we asked him what was your favorite part
• 28:40
  about our trip? And he said, you know what, I
• 28:43
  loved Najaf and I was like, Marshall, that's just that's
• 28:46
  crazy, you know what I mean? Like that's, we've got to kind
• 28:49
  of like, you know what I mean? It was next level.
• 28:53
  Bless him. Well, nice, nice individuals,
• 28:56
  nice to spend time with him and, you know, take him on the
• 28:59
  experience with us. Terrific.
• 29:01
  Terrific. Tremendous.
• 29:03
  Honestly, but but I think there was a lot that happened.
• 29:06
  I think aside to that as well that we were able to share some
• 29:10
  spirituality together. Ziara together spent time
• 29:12
  Muhammad get to know him much better and the beautiful time
• 29:16
  that I spent with him Muhammad I think at night when we were in
• 29:19
  our hotel trying to sleep well. Every.
• 29:24
  Question I had. I'll ask him all the
• 29:27
  discussions. Well, I love, I miss him.
• 29:29
  But you know what? We should go.
• 29:31
  Can I expose? One thing that I heard good.
• 29:35
  I'm going to expose you. OK, OK, So I heard that let's
• 29:38
  say Ali would wake up at 3. AMI need to hear the sound of
• 29:41
  you playing lectures like while you're sleeping.
• 29:45
  You'd have different Mahara, different lecturers speaking
• 29:48
  that. To me, yeah, that I, I know that
• 29:50
  sounds really weird, but that's so normal to me that every night
• 29:54
  I go to sleep and I listen, I go to sleep with something on that
• 29:57
  is like knowledge based less enemy.
• 30:00
  And genuinely this sounds so weird, but I genuinely feel like
• 30:04
  I retain that information even if I'm sleeping.
• 30:06
  I'm sure there's studies. For that there must be
• 30:09
  definitely definitely. Like you'll be hearing like the
• 30:11
  the argumentation. I feel like I wake up.
• 30:14
  I don't know what I heard and why I didn't, but I I still got
• 30:17
  the like I got the essence. Now listen to it in.
• 30:20
  Chinese and then you'll learn this love in Chinese.
• 30:23
  I got the benefit. From that so.
• 30:26
  So we'll win for. The both of us, it's it's
• 30:27
  annoying for. Most people though, I think like
• 30:29
  in my like household now, people like my wife, and they're used
• 30:32
  to it, Yeah, like they're used to also now falling asleep to
• 30:35
  sounds of lectures and things like that.
• 30:38
  So it's OK. But I would say that Ali, I was
• 30:39
  speaking. That's good.
• 30:40
  Like, am I? Am I pushing buttons?
• 30:42
  No, no, no, no. The first time you're
• 30:43
  travelling, there's one guy. If there's one guy who would not
• 30:47
  mind that scene, yeah, So it was me.
• 30:49
  It's probably a different story. Voila.
• 30:52
  Yeah, All right. What's?
• 30:54
  Next October, September, September launch the Hold My
• 30:57
  Heart. Podcast.
• 30:59
  Hold my Heart Sisters podcast. Hold my heart a long.
• 31:02
  Time in the making, Hamdullah. It was, I think it took.
• 31:05
  Many months of us trying to find the suitable hosts to host the
• 31:11
  Hold Hold My Heart podcasts, and we finally got there.
• 31:15
  There was a lot of excitement behind the scenes.
• 31:17
  I know we planned so much. A lot of effort went in.
• 31:20
  We spoke to so many different people, took advice from
• 31:23
  scholars and from everyone else and handle the fruits of it are
• 31:27
  are on show now and it's the sisters podcast.
• 31:31
  I don't know how much I can say this for the sisters out there
• 31:34
  who want to learn, who want to benefit, who want to grow the
• 31:37
  knowledge, who want to be in a safe space for ladies, for
• 31:41
  women, for young, for young sisters, I think you've hold my
• 31:45
  heart. Listen.
• 31:46
  Yeah, definitely. I think also obviously bearing
• 31:49
  in mind there's the sisters podcast, so there's no like
• 31:51
  encouragement for males to watch it.
• 31:53
  Yeah, so at the. At the same.
• 31:55
  Time obviously, because we are part of the optimal team, we do
• 31:58
  go over the content that's being made and genuinely there have
• 32:01
  been some recent episodes that have been genuinely amazing like
• 32:04
  they have been, so there was one just recently.
• 32:08
  On marriage by absolutely there's just.
• 32:09
  Sort of feedback, amazing, amazing podcast When you went
• 32:13
  through the content 1010, genuinely like it was such a
• 32:16
  different perspective. It's refreshing when you when
• 32:18
  you hear about marriage. I feel like when you see the
• 32:22
  title marriage on a podcast, you feel like you already know what
• 32:25
  you're going to hear. But this was a completely
• 32:28
  different perspective. And I think that, you know,
• 32:30
  there's, there's a few episodes of of Hold My Heart that have
• 32:32
  been honestly like, you're being brilliant and there's no coming
• 32:36
  out now. Right.
• 32:36
  And there's more to come. Up in every two.
• 32:39
  Weeks on Mondays releasing the team will work hard their guests
• 32:42
  are really good Marshall law but yeah check out guys you can if
• 32:46
  you're not already subscribed to ask them all going to make sure
• 32:49
  you subscribe hit the notification bell No, you'll get
• 32:51
  the I I don't think I've ever shared this with you.
• 32:52
  Guys, once there was something very funny in regards to Hold My
• 32:55
  Heart. So you know, when we stopped
• 32:57
  filming for season 4 and there was nothing happening on like
• 33:00
  the aftermath of YouTube. So my daughter when she logged
• 33:03
  into YouTube, it's my account I'm subscribed to aftermath of
• 33:06
  right? So you see like what's been
• 33:08
  pushed up. So there's something new that
• 33:11
  gets released and aftermath it comes out right.
• 33:13
  So at home, the TV in my house is on my if they if they log
• 33:16
  into YouTube, it's my YouTube account signed in.
• 33:19
  So she must have signed in and all of a sudden she comes
• 33:22
  running to me upstairs and I remember I was doing some DIY.
• 33:25
  She asked me, Baba, someone Hacked Off the mug.
• 33:27
  She was like, Baba, someone Hacked Off the mug.
• 33:31
  Some girls I'm like. What downstairs and I see?
• 33:35
  Hold My Heart got released. I'm like, no, this is the show I
• 33:38
  explained to her was a very funny one.
• 33:40
  Oh my God. Oh very.
• 33:41
  Funny. All right, what's next?
• 33:43
  We props of the. Whole team at Hold my Heart.
• 33:45
  They're doing amazing work. They are indeed.
• 33:49
  October. Launched a brand new show,
• 33:51
  Golden Hour, and I can see there's a picture there of Ahmed
• 33:54
  and For the Chris, which is yet to be released.
• 33:58
  Yet to be released. Kelly, you see when when, when
• 34:00
  we. Meet the whole Christmas.
• 34:02
  Opportunity. I've seen it when we feel that
• 34:05
  I. Was like we should drop we're.
• 34:06
  Good afterwards do like 3 months earlier I was.
• 34:08
  Like we should prepare this for Christmas.
• 34:10
  Yeah, Golden Owl guys, our new show, if you haven't watched it
• 34:13
  already, it's targeted towards making the world of academia and
• 34:19
  high level knowledge more accessible and digestible for
• 34:22
  our community, especially those who have an interest in that.
• 34:24
  So the idea being is that we speak to Mushtahideen or
• 34:28
  equivalent or those who are have taught at a high level either in
• 34:32
  a western academic setting or in a Houser setting, bath cottage
• 34:36
  or equivalent and essentially are able to talk about a
• 34:39
  specialist area of knowledge with us.
• 34:43
  So Charlotte Love, the three of us are going to be hosting, so
• 34:46
  the only one which has come out thus far is Mohammed Ali's
• 34:48
  series with Said Munir Itala, said Munir Habaz, which was
• 34:51
  Hamdallah really well received. How would you rate the show and
• 34:57
  your experience out of the show? Out of 10 and your personal.
• 35:00
  Experience out of 10, no bias. The show.
• 35:03
  As. As an idea, I think is is solid
• 35:06
  like. Obviously, no, this is.
• 35:07
  Those episodes, those episodes. OK, I think with, said Munir.
• 35:12
  I think obviously it was like crazy opportunity, right, to be
• 35:17
  sitting with such a high level senior scholar mushed ahead and
• 35:22
  somebody that commands so much respect in our community.
• 35:26
  So it was obviously like it was a crazy experience.
• 35:28
  And for me, I think I was a little bit taken aback by the
• 35:31
  aura as well, like in the in the moment, of course.
• 35:35
  I think the episodes were. Amazing.
• 35:37
  I think when we look at episode one, it was a brilliant episode.
• 35:41
  Episode 2, I think there were some questions, more questions I
• 35:45
  could have asked, and episode 3, the same thing.
• 35:49
  There were more questions I could have asked and I think I
• 35:51
  got a lot of feedback from people and I felt the same
• 35:53
  watching it as well, that it should have been a little bit
• 35:57
  more conversation in that there there, there should have been
• 36:01
  more pushback dialogue, right? IE.
• 36:03
  So save money and makes a point. It's like, OK, can you elaborate
• 36:07
  on that? Do all scholars agree on this or
• 36:09
  something like that? And I feel like that is
• 36:11
  obviously it's very, very important in a podcast.
• 36:14
  But also like, you know, don't judge me.
• 36:16
  I also taken aback. Like I genuinely.
• 36:19
  I just, I was just like. OK, I've got my questions, but
• 36:21
  the whole point. Of the show is not to like
• 36:23
  persuade the audience towards a certain certain static, rather
• 36:27
  to dig deep on terms of the scholars perspective and also to
• 36:31
  challenge them. Not because we're in a place to
• 36:33
  challenge them at all, but more of a case of, for example, if
• 36:36
  someone presents an idea, we say, but the the the the counter
• 36:42
  narrative, the counter arguments, this what, what is
• 36:44
  the response to? What is the response?
• 36:46
  Our knowledge? Absolutely.
• 36:47
  But yeah, overall I think the episodes were were premium were
• 36:51
  very. Good out of 10 they I think the.
• 36:53
  Episodes were very good, Yeah. I think in terms of OK, the
• 36:56
  first episode I'll give it a 10 out of 10, OK.
• 36:59
  Second episode I'll give it about an 8, OK.
• 37:03
  And the third because of the points you referenced.
• 37:06
  Earlier because of myself, no. Like obviously not save money.
• 37:09
  Save money did a great job, right?
• 37:12
  Like from my side, I think, you know, they, they could have been
• 37:15
  better hosting and better questions and better push back.
• 37:19
  And the third episode I would say is about the same as the
• 37:20
  second. You're being harsh for yourself
• 37:22
  as well. Yeah, I mean, thought.
• 37:24
  I thought the second was great and the third, yeah, Hamdallah.
• 37:28
  Hamdallah. I mean, you know, yeah, it's
• 37:30
  always room for improvement in shout out, room for yeah.
• 37:34
  And of course. Golden Hour is one of those
• 37:37
  things that it's going to be like exclusive meet ups, so it's
• 37:39
  not going to be that regular. Yeah, right.
• 37:41
  So it's going to be one of those things that pops up once in a
• 37:44
  while. So that's why I'm even more
• 37:46
  harsh because that's like, that's your one opportunity to
• 37:50
  get it right. It's exclusive.
• 37:51
  It's exclusive, right? No.
• 37:53
  It. Was great man at Hamdallah.
• 37:55
  So November, New York, that's all you guys invited, invited by
• 38:00
  the space conference. Shout out space.
• 38:02
  Shout out space, space experience.
• 38:04
  Great team, great conference, great experiences, great people.
• 38:08
  We had a great time. Hamdallah we did.
• 38:11
  We did, and I. Remember, I met a lot of amazing
• 38:13
  individuals and I think they all had their own expertise and you
• 38:18
  know, they were most of us. There's nothing in the
• 38:22
  background. I'm not going to repeat it, but
• 38:25
  I, I, I really felt like there was this love to build your
• 38:29
  career, but not forget your identity.
• 38:30
  And I think that was something important that we, we don't look
• 38:33
  into a lot in our day-to-day lives.
• 38:34
  Like when we go to work, you don't even forget about Muslims
• 38:37
  sometimes, let alone being Shia Muslims, right?
• 38:40
  So for a group of students who want to excel in their career
• 38:43
  paths, who want to excel in their studies, whatever field
• 38:46
  there is, that they don't want to excel and lose their faith at
• 38:51
  the same time. So to see that sort of
• 38:53
  environment take place in New York with all the mess of the
• 38:56
  United States of America, that there are Shia Muslims out there
• 39:00
  who want to be professional, who want to be the best in their
• 39:05
  field and not forget who they are, That to me was mesmerizing.
• 39:09
  I remember I said in the live podcast I was like, I wish we
• 39:11
  had something like this in the UK.
• 39:14
  In the UK we don't have things like this.
• 39:16
  So inshallah in the future, who knows?
• 39:18
  We did try and persuade them to bring the space conference to
• 39:21
  the UK. But go on.
• 39:22
  You want me to say something? Yeah, guys, talk to me about.
• 39:24
  The content that you were making.
• 39:26
  Yeah, we. Did so.
• 39:27
  I can't lie. I saw some very, very, very good
• 39:31
  reels of yourself speaking in a nice little New York.
• 39:35
  Thanks brother. Hallway.
• 39:36
  Still more to come. If we ever get around to it.
• 39:39
  And no, no, no, no, it was good. So like obviously the main
• 39:43
  reason why we were there was the conference.
• 39:46
  We came a day earlier. We left today or two later after
• 39:49
  the conference. I mean, surrounding that, we did
• 39:52
  some cool stuff. So we did some filming and
• 39:54
  whatnot. Wish we did more, wish we had
• 39:56
  more time, but we had a lot of friends to meet up, some
• 39:57
  scholars as well, which is great.
• 39:59
  St. Hadi.
• 40:00
  Was there? Was that real with?
• 40:02
  Saint Ali and St. Hadi, Yeah, yeah.
• 40:04
  The pistachio latte. We done workshops.
• 40:07
  We what workshops? Yeah, so at the at the
• 40:09
  convention we did workshops on conversational skills, which was
• 40:14
  great. We did podcasts with Doctor
• 40:16
  Hajalan Moghniya on what you're talking about, how to achieve
• 40:20
  excellence and while maintaining your identity, you know,
• 40:23
  pursuing your professional skills.
• 40:26
  I think we did one more thing, mentoring as well.
• 40:28
  We did mentorships as well. We had a tool which was great.
• 40:31
  So yeah, it was fun. I liked it.
• 40:32
  I, I would rate, I'd rate the experience a 10 out of 10.
• 40:36
  I'd rate the aftermarket upside of things like a 8 out of 10 for
• 40:40
  obviously the positives being we got to network, we got to
• 40:42
  explore and promote. But at the same time, I wish we
• 40:45
  did more stuff like while we were there, basically.
• 40:49
  So while we were in New York, we wanted to meet more people.
• 40:53
  And yeah, it's just the time. Like if we had two or three more
• 40:55
  days, we would have probably done a lot more.
• 40:58
  Kind of like looking. From outside, I think you guys
• 41:00
  are like having a great job, like very great.
• 41:02
  Even the the. Podcast with Hajala Hajala Solid
• 41:06
  hamdulai. Genuinely, I recommend everybody
• 41:09
  to watch The Light. You know what we get?
• 41:10
  We we're, we're blessed because we get invitations to host
• 41:14
  things and be a part of different things either in the
• 41:16
  UK or overseas. It could be in with the other
• 41:20
  groups, it could be in different parts of the world for or
• 41:23
  different like conventions or conferences.
• 41:26
  But we're quite selective on where we go, not because we are
• 41:30
  trying to be proud, but more of a case of does it align with
• 41:32
  what we want to do and our vision and our mission, which is
• 41:35
  very youth and Western focused. So Al Hamdallah this.
• 41:40
  Did the team do so? Yeah.
• 41:42
  Solid, all right. Last month, which is what we are
• 41:46
  in at the moment at the time of filming.
• 41:48
  Yeah. So we, we've just moved into
• 41:51
  this new studio, which is a 10 out of 10 studio, Hamdallah for
• 41:55
  context. So when we got kicked out or not
• 41:57
  kicked out, we were in that temporary space for a few months
• 42:00
  at the same time. So Mujtaba located this studio
• 42:04
  which we had known about. And ironically, I had done some
• 42:06
  filming in this space many years ago and it was like a nice
• 42:12
  spacious studio. Like a lot, a lot, a lot bigger
• 42:15
  than anything we've ever been in, probably like 5-6 times
• 42:18
  bigger than our last space at least.
• 42:21
  And it was burnt down. So we had to like kind of
• 42:27
  firstly weight up if it made sense.
• 42:29
  And credit to Mujt, this is all him.
• 42:32
  He kind of put a team together. He invested into it, rebuilt it,
• 42:36
  kind of designed it, floor plan usage.
• 42:40
  We have our own studio here, which is great.
• 42:42
  We're going to have enough space for all of our shows in this
• 42:44
  space we're in now. And then we also have like 5-6
• 42:47
  other rooms which we are hiring out to the community and people
• 42:51
  who want to get involved just shout us, drop us Adm everything
• 42:55
  is obviously we're trying to support community initiative.
• 42:57
  So if anyone out, there's a young podcast starting up or
• 43:00
  even an experienced podcast which is regular or you do one
• 43:03
  off shows or you do interviews or you do photography or you
• 43:07
  want to place to like even an in house office space.
• 43:10
  We've got a lot of space. You could probably fit like 10
• 43:13
  desks for office space work in some of the other rooms.
• 43:17
  So there's a lot of opportunity for locals.
• 43:19
  If you're in London and you want a space to check out, then yeah,
• 43:22
  reach out. And Sharbach.
• 43:24
  So that's where we are. Yeah, that's where we are.
• 43:26
  That's optimal. Shout out wrapped and.
• 43:30
  There's other, a lot of other things there like, yeah, I feel
• 43:33
  bad if there's things we didn't mention or people we didn't
• 43:35
  shout out, but it's been a great year.
• 43:37
  But onwards and upwards and shot and shot a lot.
• 43:39
  We have some big plans for 20261 major, major production in mind.
• 43:43
  If it pulls off, if we can make it happen, it'll be great.
• 43:46
  That'll be amazing. It'll be a great, great
• 43:47
  experience. But a lot of work to do before a
• 43:50
  lot of work. Probably the biggest, most time
• 43:52
  consuming thing we would have ever done.
• 43:54
  If it pulls off legit, yeah. So inshallah.
• 43:58
  Well, that could be that. Could be one of the most
• 44:00
  exciting things that Aftermath has ever done as well.
• 44:02
  For sure. For sure, for sure.
• 44:05
  I really want to drop a. Tick.
• 44:06
  But I can't. Yeah.
• 44:10
  And aside from that, we are also in the blessed month of Rajab,
• 44:15
  which means we are now planting the seed of spirituality.
• 44:22
  And then we in Shahaban was the Hadith water and then
• 44:27
  Shaharamov, is it Hadith? I don't know.
• 44:29
  Shaharamovan. We watched the blossoming of
• 44:31
  that. We harvest, we harvest, reap the
• 44:35
  rewards of that. Yeah, of that plant.
• 44:38
  But no, the idea being is that like we're now in the month of
• 44:42
  Rajab, we've had later Rakai, we've had willadas of Imam al
• 44:47
  Qadam, Alayhi Salaam, Imam Jawad, Ali Salaam Amiram, Omanim
• 44:52
  Alayhi Salaam and of course jihad would say the zeynab as
• 44:55
  well. There's a lot of a lot of
• 44:58
  remembrance, thicker for a while and some were sided of the
• 45:01
  Alberta name Salaam. In these months, Rajab always
• 45:04
  feels like a special month. We can feel it building.
• 45:08
  We can feel Shahram of our nearing.
• 45:10
  How do you feel right now? Yeah, I, I.
• 45:13
  Completely echo that I think with Roger when it comes is
• 45:15
  straight away you're thinking, OK, in my solo I've got recite
• 45:18
  that it just feels like you're in the you're in the kind of
• 45:24
  atmosphere of now Shahramadhan is around the corner right.
• 45:28
  This is the, this is the, this is the kind of, if you're really
• 45:32
  late to the party, this is when you start to prepare social
• 45:36
  Ramadan, right? I like that.
• 45:38
  Yeah. So yeah, like a month of
• 45:40
  fasting, month of worship. There's so many for that.
• 45:43
  I love the month of Rajab. Like with regards to fasting in
• 45:46
  the month of Rajab, if I can just quote one off the top of my
• 45:50
  head, one who fasts a day in, in the month of Rajab, we'll have a
• 45:55
  house built for him in Jannah, for example.
• 45:57
  There's so there's so many row arts about about fasting in
• 46:01
  Rajab and of course it's the month of the birth of Amir what
• 46:04
  mini Ali Salaam a month that is like it's rejoice for for Oshia
• 46:09
  like so when you think of Rajab, you think 13th Rajab, right Yeah
• 46:13
  what's happening on the 13th That's so true man every.
• 46:16
  Time you think about Molas Mollet, you know, and of course,
• 46:22
  Shali Mubarak, we say shali Mubarak, every single one of
• 46:24
  you. And to those watching and
• 46:26
  listening around the world. And I just want to ask something
• 46:28
  as well to this whole Rajab Shahbar Ramadan discussion that
• 46:31
  you've mentioned. And it's very true.
• 46:32
  I echo all of it because if I think about it, normally when we
• 46:36
  come to Shahramadan, the holy month of Ramadan, sometimes we
• 46:39
  see, we see like, OK, it's day one, but we're not in it.
• 46:43
  And then why? Because we haven't built
• 46:44
  ourselves from the previous months of shaman Rajab.
• 46:47
  And that's very true. I said this is where we start
• 46:50
  with this, the Amal. We do the most habad fasting
• 46:53
  that we do. It has that spiritual uplifting
• 46:56
  to prepare us for the holy month, insha'allah.
• 46:58
  And yes, back to 13, Rajab. Yeah.
• 47:01
  Ali, Ali, Ali. Where will he be without Ali?
• 47:04
  Where do I? Begin when praising him has no
• 47:09
  ends. Ali, his name sweet on the
• 47:15
  tongue. Ali his love expands the lung.
• 47:22
  I haven't finished off. I'm just going, I'm preparing
• 47:25
  something inshallah for an upcoming free station.
• 47:32
  His name? Expands the lungs Ali when?
• 47:35
  We. Do your moulded.
• 47:37
  We have a lot of fun. It's not going to work, not
• 47:42
  going. To work.
• 47:43
  We'll make it work somehow, no? Do you know what, Marshall?
• 47:45
  I'm like. It's a time of reflection.
• 47:47
  And also, you know, there's some the pride that we get from
• 47:52
  saying his name. Yeah, man, Ali.
• 47:54
  It's something that never, ever, ever will we be able to find
• 47:58
  that joy in anything else. And not just that, it's
• 48:01
  everything we do throughout, throughout the year.
• 48:03
  Every act of Ebada or every moment or occasion somehow links
• 48:07
  back to me. The what?
• 48:08
  Minin in the first month in Muharram, we remember that the
• 48:11
  tragedy of Mohammed Hussain began with the rejection that
• 48:15
  they had of his father. Yeah, when we come to Arbaeen
• 48:19
  and suffer, we remember that the daughter of Miramot Manin
• 48:23
  emulated to his qualities when she spoke out against injustice
• 48:26
  and spoke in favour of Imama and Wilaya.
• 48:29
  You know, Rajab, Shahaban, Shaharamavan, even Shaharamavan,
• 48:33
  while the rest of the Muslim world is doing everything we're
• 48:35
  doing at Hamdullah except Tarawi.
• 48:37
  But what we are doing is we're connecting that month back to
• 48:41
  the other debate and we remember that.
• 48:43
  What Amiram? What Minin gave in Shahana Mavan
• 48:47
  is something bigger than just the fasts.
• 48:49
  You know, he gave his life and he gave that amazing will.
• 48:53
  He gave to his his son's Imam Hazima Hussain Alayhi was
• 48:55
  Saddam. And then of course as you get
• 48:57
  towards the end of the year, you know you have malded and Nabi
• 49:02
  and you have Hajj and all of these different elements, they
• 49:05
  are all intertwined. Everything falls in place.
• 49:09
  The glue of our religion is without a mean of what?
• 49:12
  Minin Ali, Saddam, There's nothing.
• 49:14
  You know that we always talk about this on the point then you
• 49:16
  have. Hadir, of course.
• 49:19
  Like at the end of the year. Well, what I'm trying to.
• 49:21
  Say, is that Islam in general for the Shia or the non Shia?
• 49:26
  For us, it's like what the non Shia will see as a normal
• 49:29
  Islamic event in the calendar. We see it as an Islamic event in
• 49:32
  the calendar, which was made complete by amid of what?
• 49:35
  Minin. You see what I mean?
• 49:36
  Absolutely. Something that someone else will
• 49:38
  see, for example, Shahar or anything else, Qatar or whatever
• 49:43
  it is, these kind of key events, these key fixtures, We see it
• 49:46
  from another dimension, like one level further, there's a
• 49:50
  Matanova there. And also we have the Wyatt of
• 49:53
  the Alhabet and he was Saddam. Like when we read the Quran and
• 49:56
  we read the Sura, we read that the Makamat of the Alhabet
• 49:59
  through the Sura. You know, for example, Lasha had
• 50:01
  Al Malan. We sat with Sheikh Ayub and he's
• 50:03
  talking, talking about sort of like these are the kind of
• 50:10
  things that we learn through the and all of that comes back to
• 50:15
  the father of the of the Imams, Ali Salaam.
• 50:20
  So he is, you know, we we are complete through him, you know,
• 50:25
  and inshallah we're from him. You know I'm going to steal
• 50:28
  your. Question that you asked me from
• 50:29
  before the podcast and I'm going to put you both on the spot,
• 50:32
  Ali. What is your favorite?
• 50:35
  Hadith about the favaille of Emir, what we need or if you had
• 50:38
  to choose 1A favorite. Hadith, yeah, if I have to
• 50:42
  choose one about the you know how difficult that is because
• 50:46
  the whole good man. But I think sometimes the most
• 50:49
  simplest ones, the ones that are the most.
• 50:52
  Affect your life on. A day, day-to-day basis as a
• 50:54
  Muslim, not just as a Shiite, as a Muslim, when you hear things
• 50:58
  such as Ali Anum al Haqq al Hakuma Ali, why would you go
• 51:02
  anywhere else? We we say this all the time.
• 51:04
  And if if you have a mural Mutmaneen Imam Ali Ali Assalam
• 51:08
  that he is, you know, he is hack who he spends his time with what
• 51:15
  he advises on how he preaches nanny.
• 51:19
  If it wasn't for Emir and Mormonian, would we pray the
• 51:22
  same way Rasool Allah sallallahu alaihi Ali prayed.
• 51:25
  Let's think about that. No, I'm I'm being I'm being
• 51:28
  genuine because there are historic reports that when he
• 51:31
  was caliph, right and he led the Salah and people were like, wow,
• 51:35
  this is how Rasool Allah used to pray.
• 51:37
  And then what happened to Islam? What I decide I don't want to
• 51:40
  change the whole subject. Now this is the truth of the
• 51:43
  matter. And also another thing I think
• 51:45
  we should also think about is titles as well.
• 51:47
  When we say Emir and Mormonian, that means there's a standard
• 51:51
  for us as Shia. You can't just be Muslims, bro.
• 51:54
  There's another you have to be a movement.
• 51:56
  We say he is our emir. That means we have to be a
• 51:59
  moment so he can be our emir and Mutman in soccer.
• 52:02
  And I think everything else in our lives had revolves around
• 52:05
  how do you feel when you. Do you ever think about like
• 52:07
  your mum named you Ali? I have a whole.
• 52:12
  Poetry written about it. Like, do you have a deep hit?
• 52:15
  Like we've got Ali, Ahmed and Muhammad, but like, you know,
• 52:19
  there's the three most not. Magnificent.
• 52:22
  Names Firstly Hamdullah. For being called Ali, I think
• 52:24
  it's a constant reminder for me, constant reminder that I have
• 52:28
  this name and it's a heavy name live up and there's a standard
• 52:32
  and a duty and a responsibility and a certain requirement that's
• 52:37
  needed of me to be who I am. Being called Ali.
• 52:41
  It's not something small, of course, Ali.
• 52:42
  Imagine being called Ali and entering for example, the places
• 52:46
  of Haram, listening to Haram or being indulging in Haram like
• 52:51
  hadn't been named after the Ehren and Beta being named after
• 52:54
  the the prophets and things like that.
• 52:56
  And I think it sort of reminds you of you being a Muslim, but
• 52:59
  it brings you back. Like it does bring you back,
• 53:01
  yeah. It does when you think about it.
• 53:03
  Actually deep it in proper life? I asked my mum.
• 53:06
  Once I said why did you name me Ali?
• 53:10
  She didn't say it was my father, by the way, like there was many
• 53:13
  names. Mohammed Ali, that's all.
• 53:15
  That's my little bit Ali Musalam.
• 53:16
  But she had, she wanted a boy. So I thought maybe I don't share
• 53:21
  all of it but she wanted me to be for a specific reason for
• 53:25
  example and she said if XYZ happens I'll call the money.
• 53:29
  I came to this world and she named me.
• 53:31
  Now I'm the last so I thank her. But I just want to mention that
• 53:36
  if I can say that poetry she I am proud.
• 53:42
  They call us and our heads held high proud of this label.
• 53:48
  How can we not be proud? Proud on the one whom the Kaaba
• 53:52
  cracked open and the House of God was his cradle.
• 53:55
  They asked who is Ali and who can blame them?
• 53:58
  Ali, the rightful successor, but no one told them.
• 54:02
  Can we blame them? Well, that's between God and
• 54:04
  between them. As for me, Ali is the first, Ali
• 54:07
  is the last. Without the Willai of the son of
• 54:09
  Abu Talib. My prayer is not accepted and
• 54:12
  neither is my fast. As for my mother, she named me
• 54:16
  Ali after Ali and she fed me the milk of the love of Ali.
• 54:21
  And As for my father, he died serving the son of Ali and
• 54:27
  thanks to him. The first words I would hear is
• 54:30
  the Adan with the mentioning of Ali.
• 54:34
  Yeah, Ali. My dad so when I when I wrote.
• 54:40
  That I remember, like when you said I'm in.
• 54:44
  I'm in the I'm in the mood now, man, you.
• 54:49
  Asked me, so what's your favorite hadith?
• 54:56
  Say, what's your favorite poem? Yeah, there's two things. 1 is a
• 55:02
  story, 1 is today. I was reading a little book,
• 55:05
  tiny little pocket size book. My grandmother gave me.
• 55:08
  It's called A Father's advice. It's like one of these 1950s
• 55:12
  tiny pocketbooks. OK.
• 55:15
  And I did open it. It's really bad if she hears
• 55:17
  this. I haven't opened it for years.
• 55:19
  It's tiny. It's like one of these
• 55:21
  paperbacks. And I thought it was just like,
• 55:24
  you know, how to be a good dad and what not from his stomach
• 55:27
  lens. It was when I had my first
• 55:28
  child, so I had it since 2021. I opened it today when I was
• 55:33
  cleaning out a room and I I went through it and it was like I
• 55:37
  mentioned earlier, a Middlemont minions will to Mama Hassan and
• 55:40
  Mama Hussein. And it was deep.
• 55:43
  It was like how to be a man dignity and respect,
• 55:47
  understanding the creation of a last Pano Tahala
• 55:49
  responsibilities to society, your home and around the home
• 55:53
  and outside of the home. I was like, this is a goldmine.
• 55:56
  And a few lines. I don't I don't want to read it
• 55:58
  out in case I misquote, but there's a few lines in there
• 56:00
  which really took me. And a lot of it was also
• 56:04
  relevant to today in terms of the whole masculinity red pill
• 56:08
  conversations that we have now as a society.
• 56:12
  And bro, these things were being talked about then.
• 56:15
  You're talking about Milam O Manin.
• 56:16
  At that point in his life, he was, you know, his halafa had
• 56:21
  come to an end or of course, was coming to an end.
• 56:23
  And you know, he had lived through the years of salt
• 56:27
  solitude and, and silence and neglect from the Omaha and the
• 56:32
  years prior. He had the days of glory on the
• 56:35
  battlefield and the days of glory alongside Rasala Muhammad,
• 56:38
  Salallahu, Alayhi Alayhi, and beyond that as well.
• 56:42
  At that point in his life. He knew when, of course, when he
• 56:46
  was struck that I'm, I'm leaving this world and he left this gem
• 56:51
  for us. And sometimes we don't really
• 56:53
  delve into it, but that's kind of something which I'm still
• 56:55
  exploring as of today. And you make sure you pass it
• 56:58
  on. To your son as well, that
• 57:00
  father's advice. I don't need to pass nothing, I
• 57:02
  told him. Look at what I mean, what we
• 57:04
  just said, man, you know what I mean?
• 57:06
  In terms of a story, We mentioned it before the candle
• 57:08
  story. That's the it's amazing.
• 57:10
  You know, a middle, my minion, who was it that came into the
• 57:12
  room? It was.
• 57:17
  Was it far as no way? I believe it was.
• 57:20
  It was. It was.
• 57:21
  It was, yeah. One of the companions at the
• 57:23
  time came into the room. He said, can I discuss a matter
• 57:25
  with you? A middle, my minion said is it
• 57:26
  personal or is it like a government based matter or a
• 57:30
  ministry matter? And he said no, it's personal.
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  So a middle. My minion pinched the
• 57:34
  candlelight. He said why are you doing that?
• 57:36
  And he lit another candle. He said because this candle is
• 57:40
  my personal and this one is for the ministry.
• 57:43
  I can't be talking about things on a personal matter whilst the
• 57:46
  ministry candle's lit Why? Because that.
• 57:48
  Candle was purchased with the money from Beth and Mali for the
• 57:51
  Omar for the Muslims like we. Just want emira.
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  Level 1000. IQ which shows you the level.
• 57:58
  Between him and and then nothing.
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  And what they did with basically.
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  Placed him. Yeah, placed.
• 58:03
  Him as. 4 The guy who? Came before him and people came
• 58:07
  after anyway. But do you know what is It's
• 58:10
  more of a fact that, you know, one tiny, tiny thing, like in
• 58:14
  terms of like small interaction over the course of maybe like 20
• 58:17
  seconds that happened 1300 years ago, 1400 years ago, live in,
• 58:23
  etched in the memory of history thousands of miles.
• 58:26
  Away. Many years later, you know, you
• 58:29
  have a Somali guy and Pakistani guy, Iraqi guys sitting in
• 58:32
  Bhutani and they're talking about this minute moment like
• 58:36
  it's the panel lab, bro. It's insane.
• 58:38
  Like you think about that and and the conscience that middle
• 58:40
  Mamani and Ali Salaam had to to know that he's being watched by
• 58:46
  a last one sailor and he has an Amana of what he's purchased for
• 58:50
  the Omar even 1 candle, it's burning wax for like a couple
• 58:54
  minutes more. What how can it do all?
• 58:56
  I don't say all of us. I I would not think like it
• 58:59
  wouldn't. It wouldn't occur to me would
• 59:01
  not occur to me, bro. I don't think it will, no.
• 59:03
  But what's the equivalent you have?
• 59:04
  To be on a certain level. What is the equivalent?
• 59:06
  It's like you have to be nefsa rasool.
• 59:09
  Honestly, it's a different level of understanding, but just
• 59:11
  speaking about that. You mentioned for example, you
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  know he's he has a lost pan Wattala in the back of his mind
• 59:17
  and being God conscious having that certain level of taqwa, the
• 59:20
  highest level of taqwa. We can say is that because he
• 59:23
  had a lost pan Wattala at his in the front of everything for him
• 59:30
  that even to the extent that during the hijacked caliph of
• 59:36
  Islam when it was ruled by 1-2 and three, he would still advise
• 59:40
  them why for the. Good of the Omar for the good of
• 59:43
  the Omar. Like like.
• 59:45
  Think about you know, these people have hijacked your
• 59:48
  falafel. They've abused.
• 59:51
  And they've abused. They've harassed.
• 59:53
  They've they've, they've murdered your wife.
• 59:56
  At the end of the day, this is what?
• 59:59
  But you still sit. Down and advise them.
• 1:00:03
  They come to you and. You can still share knowledge
• 1:00:05
  with them. It's not easy, Allah.
• 1:00:09
  I don't think it was easy for Emir Al Mamuni to do that.
• 1:00:12
  But he done it for the greater good, for the ummah, for the
• 1:00:15
  benefit of of the Muslims and Islam, for it to flourish and so
• 1:00:19
  to say. Do you know?
• 1:00:20
  Yeah. Sorry, have you do you know what
• 1:00:22
  it's like when when we talk about Islam to non-Muslims and
• 1:00:26
  you see like for example, the strategies employed by other
• 1:00:29
  Muslims when they talk to and non-Muslims about Islam and
• 1:00:32
  their religion. A lot of the time it's using
• 1:00:34
  theological proofs from the on and talking about evolution and
• 1:00:37
  science and XY and Z. To be really honest, I think a
• 1:00:41
  lot of it comes back to, you know, I'm going to say these
• 1:00:43
  small acts of goodness and charity and humanism,
• 1:00:47
  humanitarianism that the Salam and of course like founded by
• 1:00:52
  and 1st used by is what brings people towards the beauty of
• 1:00:59
  Islam. How does how does in the 1st
• 1:01:02
  place show people that he is who he says he was?
• 1:01:06
  Just what I mean? And like that he's a man who can
• 1:01:09
  be trusted and he's a man who's true in his words.
• 1:01:12
  You know, what was it about his infectious and lovable
• 1:01:14
  personality that people around him found solace in him?
• 1:01:18
  You know, they found admiration in his qualities.
• 1:01:20
  They cherished every moment with him to the point where we have
• 1:01:23
  the Wyatt, if I'm not mistaken, after his death, you where you
• 1:01:26
  had people who would still try and pick up hairs of Rasulullah
• 1:01:29
  and cling on to things and claim of claim the Shafa on on what
• 1:01:33
  not because they knew that there was something different.
• 1:01:35
  There's an aura that came from Alan Kesar.
• 1:01:37
  Do you know what I mean? And that's something which is
• 1:01:40
  it's supernatural and it supersedes what we see in
• 1:01:43
  day-to-day interactions. The best people we know misuse
• 1:01:46
  public funds or misuse private funds.
• 1:01:48
  And these are things that are ordinary for us.
• 1:01:50
  She saw what I mean. For example, say Mushtaba, for
• 1:01:53
  example, let's say he leaves, I don't know, a crate of water.
• 1:01:57
  And he says this water is for the aftermarket team, right?
• 1:02:01
  And it's his. If someone comes in from
• 1:02:03
  outside, can I have on us? Yeah, take one.
• 1:02:05
  We've got loads, bro. It's not mine to give away.
• 1:02:07
  It won't occur to me. Do you see what I mean?
• 1:02:09
  I think I'm being generous. Yeah.
• 1:02:10
  Yeah, go. But like, these are small things
• 1:02:12
  that they slip your mind. They may not even be sins.
• 1:02:15
  We don't know. But they're they're they're
• 1:02:17
  mishaps or errors or shortcomings, which the IMA
• 1:02:21
  Ailey Musalam, even you know this.
• 1:02:23
  Obviously, we don't want to make it a fallibility discussion, but
• 1:02:26
  I'm saying that these are things which we don't have instances
• 1:02:29
  like this from the lives of the imams, I am Salaam where they
• 1:02:33
  even had shortcomings, if I'm not mistaken, where they could
• 1:02:36
  even show like, oh, their judgement in this case was not
• 1:02:39
  as good as it could have been. Do you see what I mean?
• 1:02:41
  Like in every case, the judgement was as good as it
• 1:02:44
  could have been when you when you look at Amira Mumminian.
• 1:02:46
  And the way he speaks about a loss of panel to other, like
• 1:02:49
  there are statements that they genuinely they send shivers down
• 1:02:53
  your spine. Like I mean what we mean.
• 1:02:55
  There's a beautiful hadith where he says he says sitting in the
• 1:02:59
  Masjid for me is more beloved to me than sitting in Jannah.
• 1:03:06
  He says why? Because sitting in the Masjid is
• 1:03:10
  for the pleasure of Allah and sitting in Jannah is for my own
• 1:03:12
  pleasure, Allah. Who thinks like that?
• 1:03:16
  Like that? That in like honestly, all, all
• 1:03:20
  of us, all creation, all Muslims, all, you know,
• 1:03:24
  Abrahamic faiths, everybody, everything that we do in terms
• 1:03:28
  of like, you know, our connection with our last panel
• 1:03:30
  to Allah is always, there's always that aspect of I want
• 1:03:34
  that I want that reward at the end.
• 1:03:36
  We sit in the. Masjid for Jannah Yeah, there's
• 1:03:39
  a bit of an instance. I'd rather sit in the Masjid
• 1:03:41
  than in general. And that is like it it
• 1:03:44
  completely it shows you what kind of individual this this
• 1:03:47
  person is. And bro, that's with his
• 1:03:49
  knowledge. Of what Jenna truly is like, He
• 1:03:53
  knows. What it looks like.
• 1:03:54
  What he gets, how long the eternity is an XY and Z.
• 1:03:57
  He knows he's guaranteed it this and he still says I'd rather be
• 1:04:01
  here. So one of us.
• 1:04:02
  That's incredible and a master then, dare I say, would probably
• 1:04:07
  not be as comfortable as I must have now 100% we have both like
• 1:04:10
  LE DS and heating and massage chairs and you know good topics
• 1:04:15
  speaking about all of this I'm. I'm sure it's not just Shia who
• 1:04:19
  have these discussions. I'm sure there's people from
• 1:04:21
  other sects who, for example, bring up these fibale and these
• 1:04:23
  mirrors and these narrations and these reports from history about
• 1:04:26
  Emir Al Mutmani, Imam Ali, Ali Salaam.
• 1:04:30
  How come they just. Well, do you know what?
• 1:04:33
  Look, that's what I. Understand people, people who I
• 1:04:36
  genuinely don't understand. Leap of faith.
• 1:04:37
  There's a leap of faith that you have to make because I know for
• 1:04:40
  a fact that there are Sunnis who love a Miramat mini or who know
• 1:04:43
  more for vile and more hadith and more stories about Miramat
• 1:04:47
  min then some Shia. Yeah, right.
• 1:04:49
  We know that we hear it. We see it every year, right?
• 1:04:52
  But there's a leap of faith, like there's a belief system
• 1:04:55
  leap of faith that needs to be made in terms of what you, what
• 1:04:59
  your gut and your soul is telling you is true and what you
• 1:05:02
  say is true, right? Because you say, yeah, great
• 1:05:06
  companion, son-in-law, cousin XYZ, but you're not making the
• 1:05:10
  leap of faith. Well, when you see all those for
• 1:05:12
  violin, you know that no one matches it.
• 1:05:14
  Why can't you just basically do what you think is?
• 1:05:18
  It's literally a. Fact that in the Sunni books of
• 1:05:21
  hadith there is nobody like, let me repeat that there is nobody
• 1:05:27
  from the companions of Rasulullah that has as many for
• 1:05:30
  violence. I mean what we mean, it's a
• 1:05:32
  fact. If you go and you list and you
• 1:05:35
  say, OK, let me go through the Sunni books of hadith.
• 1:05:37
  Let me look at the faval of Amir Mumunin and compare to, for
• 1:05:41
  example, the faval of their false and fabricated, even even
• 1:05:46
  fabricated hadith that they have of praising specific companions.
• 1:05:51
  Even with the fabrications, they don't reach the number of the
• 1:05:54
  faval of Amir. And to the extent that there are
• 1:05:57
  scholars, like, for example, an necessary, he wrote an entire
• 1:06:01
  book about the Fordial of a man who was killed for it.
• 1:06:03
  And people, they started questioning him, like, what are
• 1:06:06
  you doing? Are you Shia?
• 1:06:07
  Why don't you go and write a book of Fordial about Maria?
• 1:06:11
  And and what did you know? What he said, he said.
• 1:06:14
  I don't know any Fordial. I've never read the thing.
• 1:06:18
  He said that the only. Thing that that could be
• 1:06:21
  interpreted as a potential is that yeah, may Allah never feel
• 1:06:27
  your. Stomach.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah. And they anger they.
• 1:06:30
  You know, it was Rasulullah called upon him three times and
• 1:06:33
  he didn't respond. He was eating.
• 1:06:35
  Yeah. And you like this joke eating
• 1:06:37
  with me. Yeah.
• 1:06:39
  Right. And that's where he didn't when
• 1:06:41
  he didn't respond and Rasulullah said may Allah never feel his
• 1:06:45
  stomach and the in the Sunni books of Haditha or Sunni
• 1:06:49
  commentators, they present this as a phrase, as a praise that
• 1:06:52
  like look Asulullah was he loved my alias to always.
• 1:06:57
  Enjoy good food. But they killed and they started
• 1:07:00
  for that. Yeah, literally his.
• 1:07:02
  College died for that. And it's shocking because
• 1:07:05
  especially coming from like South Asian kind of context,
• 1:07:08
  right? We listen to like pasidas,
• 1:07:11
  nasheeds, knots and things like that in the Pakistani like Sunni
• 1:07:16
  kind of circles. Bro, you here for a while.
• 1:07:19
  I mean in there that are like you're thinking you're like
• 1:07:22
  you're thinking, bro. I know some Shias that don't
• 1:07:24
  believe that borderline shirtpods it's.
• 1:07:26
  Like I don't Shias. I don't believe that and they'll
• 1:07:29
  be mentioning it and then I'll realise I'll be like they're
• 1:07:32
  mentioning these things because they're also mentioned in their
• 1:07:35
  books and when you look for those Hadith, you'll find them
• 1:07:39
  in Sunni books. It's just that those who are
• 1:07:42
  looking for them and have have knowledge of what Rasullah has
• 1:07:45
  said about Amil what me they're mentioning it.
• 1:07:48
  But others genuinely with all the number of hadith that exist.
• 1:07:53
  Some people are genuinely scared to say the father I love Amil
• 1:07:58
  what me when they're from other sex.
• 1:08:00
  They don't want to be accused or you're.
• 1:08:02
  You're Shia. You're becoming you're you're,
• 1:08:04
  you know you're. Come on, Mention Abu Baker,
• 1:08:06
  mention Omar. It's like that.
• 1:08:08
  That's how it becomes in, in, in other circles.
• 1:08:10
  It's insecurity. Yeah, Yeah, big time.
• 1:08:12
  But. We see that a lot nowadays
• 1:08:13
  online as well. Like if anyone praises the
• 1:08:15
  minimum mini in there in Sunni Shia straight away or they'll
• 1:08:18
  say to you prove you're not Shia by praising something else.
• 1:08:21
  Exactly, I'll say which is. Crazy like, come on, man, what
• 1:08:24
  world do we live in? But do you know?
• 1:08:25
  Do you know the? Reason why I mentioned I was
• 1:08:26
  like, why do people like if they know the status and this
• 1:08:29
  position and you know how our last panel at Allah saw him and
• 1:08:33
  how Rasul Allah spoke good of him and things like this.
• 1:08:36
  And you still choose not to take him as your first Imam, for
• 1:08:38
  example. Because if I go back to that
• 1:08:40
  point and expand on it, when he used to advise the caliphs, for
• 1:08:43
  example, the second caliph came to Emir Abdulmanin once again
• 1:08:47
  for advice. And after the advice was done
• 1:08:49
  and he goes to him, he goes to him.
• 1:08:51
  How do you know all these answers?
• 1:08:53
  Like where do you get them from? And he told them, you know, he
• 1:08:56
  told him, for example, Amar, you know, take your hands out, how
• 1:08:59
  much fingers do you have? I don't know if you guys have
• 1:09:00
  heard this. And then Omar tells Imam Ali
• 1:09:03
  goes, I've got 5 fingers. He goes the same way.
• 1:09:05
  You see five fingers on your hands.
• 1:09:06
  This is how I see all the answers.
• 1:09:08
  I have all the answers to to the questions.
• 1:09:11
  And then he told them, I'll tell you something more than that.
• 1:09:14
  Rasul. Allah taught me all of this.
• 1:09:17
  And also Allah told me 1000 doors of knowledge and each door
• 1:09:21
  of knowledge has another 1000 doors.
• 1:09:23
  And if the caliphs at that time, for example, understood the end
• 1:09:28
  of Emir al Nomani and the knowledge he possesses and the
• 1:09:31
  answers that he has if they were.
• 1:09:35
  Unable to they. Said Ali.
• 1:09:36
  They knew and that's. Why they kept calling him?
• 1:09:38
  This is why I. This is what they say until
• 1:09:41
  today to them. And they would.
• 1:09:43
  Ask a question and they would be like, who's the most
• 1:09:45
  knowledgeable from you? And they'll be like, let's give
• 1:09:48
  it a second. There's Ali in Amit.
• 1:09:50
  Ali is in his house. Go and call him.
• 1:09:51
  Yeah, they know. They know.
• 1:09:53
  This is why I say even. Until today.
• 1:09:55
  And if you know his status, why? Why?
• 1:09:59
  I don't know if we should get. Into this conversation, but
• 1:10:01
  maybe for another day, but I think, I think.
• 1:10:03
  The answer it's The thing is, yeah, we.
• 1:10:06
  Have we have talking throwing a growing trend of like like, but
• 1:10:12
  to say I don't want to get. Into this as part of the
• 1:10:14
  problem. No, I mean.
• 1:10:14
  No, no, I mean. Like because it's a long
• 1:10:16
  conversation, so for example. Yeah, as in terms.
• 1:10:18
  Of like it's it's but like in the sense that you know, the
• 1:10:24
  talk about the status of the Imam, his if there were
• 1:10:28
  parameters and boundaries and restrictions on what he knew and
• 1:10:30
  didn't know, his level of infallibility.
• 1:10:33
  Like that's a whole deep conversation, but it should be
• 1:10:37
  getting gotten into one day, I think.
• 1:10:38
  Let me suffice. With the hadith of Rasulullah
• 1:10:42
  about Amir. He said.
• 1:10:45
  Methalu Methalu Ali and ficom kamethalil cow.
• 1:10:50
  The example. Of Ali among you among the ummah
• 1:10:53
  is like the cab another or Ileha Ebada will had you Ileha Farida.
• 1:11:00
  Looking at the cab is worship. And coming in pilgrimage towards
• 1:11:05
  it is an obligation. This is like, you know this is
• 1:11:10
  the. Where can that be found?
• 1:11:11
  This is found in. Many of the books of hadith I've
• 1:11:13
  I've seen it in a mossua of of the hadith about Amir Mokminin.
• 1:11:18
  I think by it's a mossua it's like a like a collection or like
• 1:11:24
  an encyclopedia about a hadith about a specific individual, but
• 1:11:28
  it's a tertiary source. I believe it was written by art
• 1:11:30
  of the Hadid Najafi, one of the Mosul art about Amir Mokminin,
• 1:11:34
  but I'm sure there's a earlier source.
• 1:11:36
  I can't remember at the moment. But yeah, this beautiful hadith,
• 1:11:39
  like I think it just summarizes for you the centrality of Amir
• 1:11:44
  Mumminin for all Muslims. When we look at the the Kaaba,
• 1:11:48
  and it's obviously it's ironic that the Kaaba is used here
• 1:11:52
  because the Kaaba in and of itself is the birth place of
• 1:11:56
  Amir Mumminin, right? So we see like the the the
• 1:11:59
  centrality of Amir Mummininin, we we see the level of
• 1:12:03
  inspiration we should take from. I mean, if Rasulullah describes
• 1:12:06
  him as the centre and we look at the cattle.
• 1:12:09
  But even if you look at it like from a geographical perspective,
• 1:12:12
  it. Is the centre.
• 1:12:13
  Of the earth, right? From a geographical perspective,
• 1:12:16
  it is the centre that all Muslims turn to every day in
• 1:12:21
  order for you to the most important thing in your life is
• 1:12:24
  Salah, right? If it's accepted, everything
• 1:12:26
  else is accepted. Your Salah is dependent on you
• 1:12:30
  facing towards that equivalent. The same way Amir Mumminin, he's
• 1:12:35
  the person that everything in our lives is dependent on.
• 1:12:38
  It's like you said, right? The events throughout the year
• 1:12:42
  all dependent on Amir Mumminin. He completes them.
• 1:12:44
  Our worship Amir Mumminin completes them, our belief Amir
• 1:12:49
  Mumminin completes, and Islam as a whole Amir Mumminin completes.
• 1:12:53
  So you see that? Is just Amir Mumminin like, you
• 1:12:58
  know, there's no words. There's no words for Amira
• 1:13:00
  Mummini. Genuinely, it's as you said in
• 1:13:03
  your first line of of poetry. If you can very kindly repeat
• 1:13:06
  it, Ali, where do I? Begin when praising you has no
• 1:13:10
  ends. Habib, you said it so
• 1:13:12
  beautifully and eloquently, and I think that was the cherry on
• 1:13:15
  top of the conversation. Honestly, it's been a great.
• 1:13:18
  It's been a great reflection and reminder about the merits of mum
• 1:13:23
  Ali. But I'm now looking forward
• 1:13:25
  because we're recording this before 13th of Ranjeb.
• 1:13:28
  I'm I'm looking forward to the to the for Vine and the
• 1:13:31
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• 1:13:33
  It's proper fun every year have the I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:13:37
  And guys, if you've made it here, thank you very much
• 1:13:40
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• 1:13:43
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  Be there. Be part of the rising dawn off.
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  Be part of the. Rising dawn indeed.
• 1:14:58
  Yeah, Ali. My dad.
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  Yeah, Ali. What's Salaam?
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  Alaikum.