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- 0:37Speaker 4: Sign And welcome back to the Go Texan Podcast. I'm
- 0:42Speaker 4: Rick Tokinni. We're here at the truly Significant Texans in
- 0:47Speaker 4: Agriculture booth at the Texas Wine and Great Rold Association,
- 0:51Speaker 4: having a great show and appreciating all these wonderful people
- 0:54Speaker 4: that we are meeting. And a Merrill Boneridio from the
- 1:01Speaker 4: Messina Hoff Wineries has brought yet another great guess, doctor
- 1:06Speaker 4: Alophemy Alu. He is a doctor at Texas A and
- 1:11Speaker 4: M University in plant science. This guy has been all
- 1:16Speaker 4: over the world studying plant diseases associated with and for
- 1:22Speaker 4: grape growers and you're going to really find his story interesting.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Amidst the fourteen thousand acres that are devoted to vineyards
- 1:35Speaker 4: across the state at seven hundred active wineries, these farmers,
- 1:43Speaker 4: these growers are subject to so many things from the
- 1:47Speaker 4: weather to pestilence, you name it. And this good doctor
- 1:53Speaker 4: is going to be talking about the variety of diseases
- 1:57Speaker 4: that they are combating.
- 2:00Speaker 5: You and I can enjoy fabulous Texas One. So enjoy
- 2:05Speaker 5: this conversation with the good doctor and we appreciate his
- 2:09Speaker 5: service inside this multi billion dollar industry. Join hey, and
- 2:14Speaker 5: we're back at the Texas One and Great Growers Association
- 2:20Speaker 5: and guests who just walked into the booth.
- 2:22Speaker 6: You are or New Femi a lab and where are
- 2:25Speaker 6: you from? Originally I'm or United from Nigeria. Fantastic, and
- 2:29Speaker 6: you're an aggie and an agi. You know, I did
- 2:32Speaker 6: my PhD at Washington State University, did a postoc at
- 2:36Speaker 6: Washington State, and then got hired in twenty thirteen with
- 2:40Speaker 6: agulve extension. So I'm a first one extension specialist with
- 2:43Speaker 6: a glave extension. What are you teaching? I don't teach.
- 2:47Speaker 6: I do applied research and extension work on basically plant disease,
- 2:54Speaker 6: major crops, including grips, with my speciality actually expanded virology.
- 3:00Speaker 6: I'm an extpart on pan viruses and you know virus
- 3:04Speaker 6: is infecting grapevine. A very dear to me. I did
- 3:06Speaker 6: my PhD on viruses infecting grips, and I'm still doing
- 3:10Speaker 6: some walk on grape vi viruses and pases.
- 3:13Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, I'm so glad that you said that.
- 3:17Speaker 5: I have such a keen appreciation for that.
- 3:20Speaker 6: I was.
- 3:21Speaker 5: We lived in Colorado for twenty five years. I went
- 3:24Speaker 5: through for twenty years a variety of diseases. Sure, and
- 3:28Speaker 5: when you are in that climate where it goes minus
- 3:31Speaker 5: ten degrees and you don't know when the xylem and
- 3:34Speaker 5: the flowing are flowing, and you don't know when to
- 3:37Speaker 5: prune over the seasons of life, I learned about it,
- 3:41Speaker 5: but I was never able to arrest the variety of diseases.
- 3:45Speaker 5: So in general, how many diseases have you seen to
- 3:51Speaker 5: for the Grape Grower Association?
- 3:53Speaker 6: Okay, So one of the things people have to realize
- 3:57Speaker 6: with grapes is, you know, it's probably one of the
- 4:00Speaker 6: longest domesticated props, you know, non to mankind. It's moved
- 4:04Speaker 6: around the entire world. And the way the plant has grown,
- 4:09Speaker 6: you know, things like you know, grafting. This is all opportunities,
- 4:12Speaker 6: you know, for diseases to be introduced. So I'll give
- 4:16Speaker 6: you an example of yours with viruses. There are more
- 4:18Speaker 6: than a hundred viruses. Oh my god. Obviously you know,
- 4:23Speaker 6: not all of them will be found everywhere. There are
- 4:25Speaker 6: some that are localized in certain areas, but there are
- 4:28Speaker 6: some that are globally widespreads those are the ones know
- 4:32Speaker 6: that us it is such a that's such as le row,
- 4:35Speaker 6: you know, finally degeneration and decline. But also we have
- 4:38Speaker 6: something like red blotch, which is a disease that just
- 4:41Speaker 6: to makes recently, did you say red bland, red blotch,
- 4:45Speaker 6: red blotch, you know, that's the name of the disease
- 4:46Speaker 6: and what that originates. Well, he actually was a disease
- 4:51Speaker 6: that what we're now from what we know now, has
- 4:53Speaker 6: been around for a very long time. However, you know,
- 4:56Speaker 6: the symptoms are very similar to symptoms of liphrow disease.
- 5:00Speaker 6: So a lot of times, you know, and oftentimes not
- 5:02Speaker 6: the virels that causes red blodge and the one that
- 5:04Speaker 6: causes lythro even though they are different, they may be
- 5:07Speaker 6: present in the same bind at the same time as
- 5:09Speaker 6: mixed affection, and so that as a layer of complexity.
- 5:13Speaker 6: You look at the plant, you think it's liprow, but
- 5:15Speaker 6: in reality it may just be red blodge or livero
- 5:18Speaker 6: together with red blotch. So bottom line is and then
- 5:21Speaker 6: not even talking about things that peces disease and a
- 5:24Speaker 6: lot of trong diseases, and there's a lot of funger
- 5:27Speaker 6: diseases black So there's no shortage you know of diseases
- 5:31Speaker 6: on grapevine. But some will always be more important in
- 5:35Speaker 6: certain areas, depending on the climate, depending on what kind
- 5:37Speaker 6: of grapes they grow. And now the grapes are managed
- 5:40Speaker 6: and some don't be problematic. Wherever you do things like
- 5:44Speaker 6: live throw you find.
- 5:47Speaker 5: I had it. But the question becomes, though, as a grower,
- 5:55Speaker 5: at what point do you treat it? And with what
- 5:59Speaker 5: and how will that have the long range output, the taste,
- 6:03Speaker 5: the taste of that grape and so you we're.
- 6:05Speaker 6: Not I wasn't. I'm not a scientist.
- 6:09Speaker 5: I'm a but I'm an old aggie, old farmer, you know,
- 6:13Speaker 5: wants to get my hands in the dirt and figure
- 6:14Speaker 5: out the little all the chemistry part of it. But
- 6:17Speaker 5: when it comes to spraying it, it's like, what do
- 6:19Speaker 5: you what am I doing to my my vineyard?
- 6:23Speaker 6: My baby? Absolutely that's a very good question. So one
- 6:27Speaker 6: of the things that makes virus is very unique is
- 6:30Speaker 6: there is no care for them because of the way
- 6:33Speaker 6: they inhabit their plant. You know, most of them are
- 6:35Speaker 6: who I'm dwelling pathogos, and so even if you have
- 6:40Speaker 6: something to treat them, how to deliver that to the
- 6:42Speaker 6: flame becomes a very big problem. So one of the things,
- 6:46Speaker 6: and this is something I'll be talking about alongside Michael
- 6:49Speaker 6: Cook later today, we try to let grow us know that. Look,
- 6:55Speaker 6: when you are Graver and the paranel proper, you know
- 6:57Speaker 6: you are hopefully trying to establish a vineyard that will
- 7:02Speaker 6: last fifty more than and outlive and outliving. Yeah, and
- 7:07Speaker 6: so the biggest investment you can make actually is making
- 7:11Speaker 6: sure you get it right when you are setting up
- 7:13Speaker 6: your vineyard. So making sure that you are planting only
- 7:18Speaker 6: virus tested material that has been certified to be free
- 7:23Speaker 6: of most of these viruses. Because the biggest way to
- 7:26Speaker 6: introduce an infection into your vineyard is to plant a deticament.
- 7:31Speaker 6: Whether that's a cutting that you take from somebody or
- 7:34Speaker 6: a transplant that you buy from a noserie. You want
- 7:36Speaker 6: to ensure that it's been tested and free of those viruses.
- 7:40Speaker 6: Because when you do that, we're establishing a foundation for
- 7:44Speaker 6: your vineyard on a very clean list. And we know that,
- 7:48Speaker 6: you know, even after you do that, you know, there
- 7:50Speaker 6: are some insects that will spread viruses from Enables vineyard
- 7:53Speaker 6: to your vineyard. But we can control those insects. But
- 7:57Speaker 6: what you really need to put a lot of emphasis
- 8:00Speaker 6: on is making sure that you're blind plants from noseries
- 8:04Speaker 6: that are known to self certified materials, they've been tested
- 8:09Speaker 6: for viruses have been found to be you know, negative
- 8:12Speaker 6: for those that making viruses. Because once we have that
- 8:16Speaker 6: infection introduced through cottings, you have it for life. It's
- 8:20Speaker 6: an epidemic. Yeah, and you can't get rid of it.
- 8:23Speaker 6: And you can get rid of it. And one of
- 8:25Speaker 6: the things I did to my PhD for example, was conducting,
- 8:29Speaker 6: you know, multi year studies over four years, looked at
- 8:33Speaker 6: the effect of lithro on the performance of grapes in
- 8:36Speaker 6: terms of you know, yield, in terms of you know,
- 8:39Speaker 6: cluster numbers, you know, the size of the clusters. We
- 8:43Speaker 6: made wine you know, from infected an l device, and
- 8:49Speaker 6: we were able to show that, you know, a lot
- 8:51Speaker 6: of the good things that people like in their wine,
- 8:53Speaker 6: they are deficient when you have litho we even did
- 8:58Speaker 6: you know, a sensral panel. We are with two consumers.
- 9:01Speaker 6: We didn't tell them what we're doing with your store them. Look,
- 9:03Speaker 6: we have these two sets of wine. You know, we
- 9:06Speaker 6: didn't tell them we choose say or B yeah, and
- 9:10Speaker 6: overwhelming me. They chose the ones without lift you know, uh,
- 9:14Speaker 6: and the ones with liffrow. They gave them some negatives
- 9:17Speaker 6: cause like, oh, well, you know, it tastes like hers,
- 9:20Speaker 6: you know, you know, the color is not really very nice.
- 9:23Speaker 6: So we know the effects are there. You know, it
- 9:24Speaker 6: may take years, you know to start seeing the effects.
- 9:27Speaker 6: But unfortunately, around the time when you should be having
- 9:31Speaker 6: your gripes not producing, you know, giving return on your investment,
- 9:35Speaker 6: this is when the effects of lifro kicks.
- 9:37Speaker 5: You know.
- 9:38Speaker 6: So it's very important that you're establishing your vineyard, you know,
- 9:40Speaker 6: with clean plants, because that is the biggest investment. It's
- 9:44Speaker 6: it's it's a kind of you know, payami later situation,
- 9:47Speaker 6: that's right exactly.
- 9:49Speaker 5: It's fascinating the field that you're in, in the science,
- 9:52Speaker 5: and I'm wondering what you have learned from the French,
- 9:57Speaker 5: German and Italians relative to the science and the diseases
- 10:03Speaker 5: that they've been exposed to and how they dealt with them.
- 10:06Speaker 6: So one thing I stealed with viruses is that it's
- 10:10Speaker 6: not something It's not a US problem, it's not an
- 10:13Speaker 6: European problem. It's a global problem, you know, and a
- 10:17Speaker 6: lot of these viruses that we deal with. Italians are
- 10:20Speaker 6: dealing with it, the Germans are dealing with it. And
- 10:24Speaker 6: one of the fascinating things is that because all of
- 10:26Speaker 6: us are dealing with it, we can speak a common
- 10:29Speaker 6: language and share experiences what we are seeing, what works best,
- 10:33Speaker 6: what doesn't work, and so that level of cooperation, you know,
- 10:38Speaker 6: allows us to learn from each other. Last year, I
- 10:40Speaker 6: was in a meeting in Montreal American Society Boviology, and
- 10:45Speaker 6: I was asked to talk about grave and viruses, and
- 10:47Speaker 6: it was really very nice to see colleagues from Canada
- 10:51Speaker 6: also dealing with red blood, also dealing with lethal and
- 10:54Speaker 6: us comparing those in terms of, you know, the best
- 10:57Speaker 6: practices to manage it, and everybody agree, you know, clean
- 11:00Speaker 6: plant is the foundation, that's right exactly.
- 11:04Speaker 5: Okay, So in closing, I want you to provide some
- 11:08Speaker 5: inspiration to the next generation of growers and how to
- 11:13Speaker 5: get dirt underneath your fingernails and you you're one with
- 11:17Speaker 5: mother Earth, as my mother used to say, So give
- 11:21Speaker 5: a little bit of inspiration and then I'll I'll go
- 11:24Speaker 5: let you go. Won't you go out and answer all
- 11:27Speaker 5: the questions I think if we wind.
- 11:28Speaker 6: Up absolutely So. I grew up, you know, in a
- 11:32Speaker 6: farming community, so I understand first time. You know, I mean,
- 11:37Speaker 6: it's not for the thing, but it's a very rewarding field.
- 11:41Speaker 6: You know, it's a very wording occasion. And I mean
- 11:45Speaker 6: we all eat, we all go to the grocery store.
- 11:49Speaker 6: One of the best part of my education is not
- 11:51Speaker 6: sitting in the lab. It's actually walking through the roads
- 11:54Speaker 6: that's right and talking to farmercy. And it gives me
- 11:56Speaker 6: a very different perspective. You know. Sometimes with scientists we
- 11:59Speaker 6: get into a bubble thinking about a science. But when
- 12:02Speaker 6: you made a grower and it tells you their own
- 12:06Speaker 6: daily experience and the business side of things, it changes
- 12:09Speaker 6: your perspective terms of things you're proposing, you know, in
- 12:13Speaker 6: terms of you know, really you know, understanding how some
- 12:18Speaker 6: little thing that you're contributing can make a very big
- 12:20Speaker 6: difference in people. Little thing that's very little thing. You know,
- 12:24Speaker 6: the grower knows more about their crop than the scientists
- 12:28Speaker 6: Willever and a lot of the research I've done that
- 12:31Speaker 6: has really been very meaningful was based on things getting feed.
- 12:37Speaker 6: So it's it's a very wording profession. You know, we
- 12:40Speaker 6: all eat and we all still have to continue eating
- 12:43Speaker 6: and somebody else to produce that. For this it's a
- 12:46Speaker 6: national security issue. It is a nation that cannot feed itself,
- 12:50Speaker 6: it's not a secure nation. And so my you know,
- 12:54Speaker 6: my encouragement to the young ones is look, yeah, it's
- 12:57Speaker 6: not an easy you know, pro passion that it's their profession.
- 13:01Speaker 6: That is what. Oh, very good.
- 13:04Speaker 5: Thanks for visiting with us. Hand me one of those
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- 13:08Speaker 5: it for you. And you are making you're making a
- 13:11Speaker 5: bigger difference so you could ever imagine. And I'm proud
- 13:17Speaker 5: to be a fellow AGUI with you.
- 13:18Speaker 6: I appreciate it. Thank you very much, and.
- 13:20Speaker 5: You know what that's what that's all about, now that
- 13:24Speaker 5: you that now that you've been a part of that community. Okay, Carlos,
- 13:30Speaker 5: so if you could take a picture, that would be great.
- 13:34Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us on this Go Texan podcast.
- 13:38Speaker 3: We thank Commissioner Sid Miller and the team at the
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- 13:48Speaker 3: of wineries and thousands of great growers out there in
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