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Can the Bronx Save the Season? · The Shed with Corey Oates, Sam Thaiday and Kip

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  Speaker 1: Approache production.
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  Speaker 2: By Baby Baby.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, baby, say baby, Hi?
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  Speaker 1: Can we talk about that ship?
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  Speaker 4: What's your what is it? Can't see it's camouflage?
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  Speaker 5: Is a camo? Welcome back to the sheds thanks to
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  Speaker 5: the Queensland Bone.
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  Speaker 4: It's been a broncos he's around, however, but the moment
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  Speaker 4: where was Ben Hunter is on for one more year?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Forty? I think?
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  Speaker 5: Is that right? Will? What will he bet? You'll be
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  Speaker 5: fair to set? Yeah? Thirty seven? Were you when you
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  Speaker 5: hung up the boots? It's thirty three?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And if your body had allowed it, would you
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  Speaker 4: have gone on?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 5: Mine was more what my body was.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know if I could have done another
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  Speaker 4: pres I didn't want to train.
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to play. I could to play forever. The
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  Speaker 5: training is the hard part.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's what I remember when Alfie his
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  Speaker 4: last season, they led him train so once or twice.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't work for Alfie because, yeah, because he was
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  Speaker 5: still drinking five times a week. That was the drama.
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  Speaker 1: That's how it happens.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I reckon. Yeah, I still had I still
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  Speaker 5: had footing in me.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's the hardest part is you don't you
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  Speaker 4: don't want to go to I was already being modified
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  Speaker 4: in the gym and modified on the training pad when
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  Speaker 4: it came to pre season training and you just feel like,
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  Speaker 4: you feel like.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not doating the best?
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  Speaker 1: But am I right?
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  Speaker 2: And saying you know that last year you had at
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  Speaker 2: least one day one less training session, because.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah I did.
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  Speaker 4: I know I had alternate training as well, So I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't do weights with you guys. I'd go and do
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  Speaker 4: some other yeah, and mobility stuff. But it's just like
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  Speaker 4: and like that's hard.
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  Speaker 2: Like you think about game and remember how you think
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  Speaker 2: I was joking about you could you have played? It's
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  Speaker 2: not a joke about you're not talented. It's about your
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  Speaker 2: body actually has to be able to take the hits. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's not about like the skill and all, it's not
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  Speaker 2: always it's about actually can you take the hit?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Every week, ten times a week? Maybe more like can
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  Speaker 2: you do it? And that's that's what when you don't
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  Speaker 2: train as much. We're older, like, and your body's more
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  Speaker 2: resilient and gets used to it more.
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  Speaker 5: But you're like, yeah, but yeah, recovery is harder.
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  Speaker 2: Can I do it again next year? And that's what
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  Speaker 2: I think the big question always is.
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  Speaker 1: For you when you want to go again, there aren't
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  Speaker 1: many thirty five, thirty six year olds that can continue
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  Speaker 1: to do it. And do you think bends one of them?
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to use him? Like, you know, could
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  Speaker 1: he play eighty minutes all year? I probably? I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he probably could, like the way the game is, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard, faster, Yeah, I truly believe that.
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  Speaker 2: Game that the game is right now limiting players career.
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  Speaker 2: It may limit players careers, like how long they can play,
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  Speaker 2: just because of the the way the game is. So
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  Speaker 2: for those I think, you know, what are they going
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  Speaker 2: to do with him? I don't know, but I still
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  Speaker 2: think he can change games with the time that he
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  Speaker 2: gets on the field, Like he's still very smart, skillful dude,
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  Speaker 2: Like two years ago, you.
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  Speaker 1: Remember won Origin not through.
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  Speaker 2: Go thru skill, but like you know, through effort, And
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  Speaker 2: that's so that's what he's going to bring again like
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  Speaker 2: for the year, like and you know leadership, which yeah, Samuel,
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  Speaker 2: you know that's where fair about it.
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  Speaker 4: I know That's where I'm leaning more towards my theory
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  Speaker 4: in and around it. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: is I think it might be a lesson learned from
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  Speaker 4: the club. I look back to when Lockie retired. So
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  Speaker 4: Locky retires in twenty eleven. If I get my numbers
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  Speaker 4: right here, then you go to twenty fifteen. Hodgo retires,
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  Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, Corey Parker twenty eighteen, ZM. Thriday twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 4: Darius Boyd twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 5: After that, Alex Clan retires.
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  Speaker 4: So like we've lost, like we had lost over over
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  Speaker 4: a thousand games of rugby league, probably a lot more
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  Speaker 4: than my master isn't great, but yeah, there's there's Locky
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  Speaker 4: Locky three hundred yeah, way more than a thousand.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe almost two thousand, almost two.
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  Speaker 1: Thousand three, three hundred three.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there you go almost. But you lost so much,
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  Speaker 5: so many games.
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  Speaker 4: But SENI the leadership in and around the club, and
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  Speaker 4: what happens is the you know, the fallout was we
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  Speaker 4: end up doing something that the Broncos never should.
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  Speaker 5: Have done, and that was win a wooden spoon.
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  Speaker 4: So you got to think the Broncos at the moment,
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  Speaker 4: paynhass going to South Sydney next year. You've got Adam Reynolds,
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  Speaker 4: a senior player who is retiring. So then you've really
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  Speaker 4: only got what Patrick Carrigan around Catoni Staggs. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he wants to be a leader in the sense that
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  Speaker 4: he will lead by example. He doesn't want to be
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  Speaker 4: a part of the leadership, and that's the way, and
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  Speaker 4: that's that's how it's fine, and that's leading. At the
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  Speaker 4: end of the day, he knows and understands his strength.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe it's an opportunity to keep a senior leader
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  Speaker 4: around for those guys like Jonah Peasant coming to the club,
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  Speaker 4: for the Duffies who are still at the club, you know,
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  Speaker 4: learning from these guys. I think he will be a
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  Speaker 4: bench player going forward over the next couple of seasons
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  Speaker 4: and then a great feeling half back when the opportunity
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  Speaker 4: comes through injury. So at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: I've got to give Dose a ten out of ten
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  Speaker 4: for getting a contract at that age because I asked,
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  Speaker 4: it didn't come my way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously I didn't take it.
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  Speaker 5: I was done. Yeah you were done like five years
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  Speaker 5: before that, yeah, yeah, four and six years younger then yeah,
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  Speaker 5: thirty yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Corey Parkers come out and said he shouldn't have done it.
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  Speaker 5: He's done and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and his reasoning was because he thinks that's what
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  Speaker 2: pushed out the younger boy.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right, that's correct? Yeah, salary salary cap salary
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  Speaker 1: can I call not called bs? I don't, but I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's the whole and soil hold the
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  Speaker 2: whole reason why I look at our salary cap and
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  Speaker 2: I think it's shot. I think you look at our
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  Speaker 2: players while she Paddy Ezra who are missing, Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 2: all on seven hundred plus, like two of them are
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  Speaker 2: probably on a million.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's what a thirty salary cap in four
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  Speaker 1: five players.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a lot of money and tied up
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  Speaker 2: in that many people, you know, I you know, Gamshuazaki
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately hasn't been playing his greatest football either, and the
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  Speaker 2: brons will be looking at that like, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: can't take a chance on you if you played one
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  Speaker 2: good season and that's what they're always big on, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And he probably got off a double amount of money
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  Speaker 2: somewhere else. Who's to say, you know, he's not going
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  Speaker 2: because when you when you're older, like you don't chase money.
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  Speaker 2: But you're like, well I don't have a good a
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  Speaker 2: lot longer, A long time left in my career. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking the best opportunity I can to get the
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  Speaker 2: most out of this game.
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  Speaker 5: What percentage is he is he gone? You reckon? Is
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  Speaker 5: he is? He definitely going to go?
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  Speaker 2: I got no idea. I don't know if he's been
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  Speaker 2: off it. I honestly have no idea. But that could
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  Speaker 2: be the reason why the players leave. Like you can't
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  Speaker 2: say our salary cap, he's got a lot of room.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, we bought Janah peasident, We've We've just
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  Speaker 2: kept that young fella Duffy. You know there's young there's
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  Speaker 2: young props coming through with Xavier Willison.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be getting a fair bit of coins
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  Speaker 1: soon because you know he's worth it. I just I
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  Speaker 1: don't think people, I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I know, you can't keep everyone, and our team is
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  Speaker 2: going to start disappearing like the team that everyone remembers
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  Speaker 2: from last year. It may not it won't be half
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  Speaker 2: that team maybe in three four years. And that's just
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  Speaker 2: the way that's what happens in rugby league. So to
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  Speaker 2: say that he's pushed him out, I don't believe that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe he would have taken more than four hundred.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't, and I believe Gebuzaki would be probably
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  Speaker 2: expecting more. So my theory is, yeah, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: the salary cap and what they have left, which I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they would have March.
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  Speaker 5: Have they got room for Gags Dan Dane Gag. Either's
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  Speaker 5: talk about him maybe coming now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's doing really well outside of the game,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's all in Newcastle.
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  Speaker 1: Right When I say that business and stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not one hundred percent sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a conversation I had a few years
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  Speaker 2: ago now that as my final season or the back
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  Speaker 2: end of my second last year, and I was just
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  Speaker 2: chatting Tom. I think I told him that I was
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  Speaker 2: probably going to finish up soon and we started talking.
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  Speaker 2: I asked him and he was just telling me that
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  Speaker 2: he's doing really well. They're not in the game, but
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  Speaker 2: also outside. But to be honest, he's probably played one
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  Speaker 2: of his best seasons for a time now. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I find it hard to believe that he would leave
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  Speaker 2: if that's the case down there for him, with the
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  Speaker 2: business side of.
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  Speaker 5: His life, all his focus.
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  Speaker 4: We've got about next year, which has been throughout this
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  Speaker 4: week because we don't want to look about what's happening
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  Speaker 4: right now because the season is done.
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  Speaker 5: He kind of feels like that, to be honest, it
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  Speaker 5: does already.
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  Speaker 4: We have a really really tough class this week against
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  Speaker 4: the Roosters, who are playing some good footage.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, on Friday night, and it's yeah, this is always a.
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  Speaker 4: Classic clash at some Corps Stadium, Rooster's Friday Night. It's
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  Speaker 4: you know, it could be the game of the round
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  Speaker 4: if the Broncos show up and that's and that's what
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  Speaker 4: we need them to do. Otherwise, yeah, we can. We'll
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  Speaker 4: continue having these conversations about next year and the.
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  Speaker 5: Year after and the year after.
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  Speaker 1: Would you agree if I say this is their season.
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  Speaker 4: This game, Yeah, they are. They're playing for the season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because it's they're going to have to do it the
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: long way around. But yeah, this is the game that
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: they are playing for their season this Friday night.
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  Speaker 5: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I had nothing else that. Yeah, that's how I've been thinking.
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  Speaker 2: If there's a game to really have a run home,
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  Speaker 2: this is it, you know, And especially with like you said,
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  Speaker 2: the classes we have had in the past, these are fiery.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Russ come.
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  Speaker 1: Here and I don't think they ever they ever play bad.
• 11:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they've got forms at the moment they hurt
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  Speaker 5: down the sharks. Marky marks on fire, Lindsay Collins. All
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  Speaker 5: of a sudden, he's a try scoring forward. What's happening?
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  Speaker 5: How good? Oh put yourself in the picture, kids.
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  Speaker 1: Poor niggas. At the start of the year, I think,
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  Speaker 1: I think, I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but he has been playing bad, Lindsay like,
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  Speaker 2: but I just think that since Origin, he's just gone
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  Speaker 2: to the level.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what Origin does.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes we're talking about Origin. That was a cracking game.
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  Speaker 5: Oh far, that was so good.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what I loved about it, as Lindsay's try,
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen the front rower sprint twenty minutes so
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  Speaker 4: far he was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone talks about the setup blah blah blah. I'm surprised
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  Speaker 2: you didn't bring this up.
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  Speaker 1: But the work he did before that, he pushed through
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  Speaker 1: on the play before he was through the line.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he sprints back, yeah to find the playaball to
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  Speaker 2: actually be an option to take the next carry.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But not only does he do that, Harry jumps. He
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  Speaker 2: pushes through and sprints and gets you off. Like, if
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: you're going to talk about Origin, player, and that's that, Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's what it's about.
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  Speaker 5: That's the old preseason conditioning game.
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  Speaker 1: That's the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we used to play this conditioning game. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like even if you didn't pass it to the person,
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  Speaker 4: they had to run past the sprint pass and then
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  Speaker 4: and then sprint back. So I was it was practicing
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  Speaker 4: literally that that that moment in the game. So pushing
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  Speaker 4: through and your support being a genuine supporter, genuine option,
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  Speaker 4: and then you know that that's what happens off the
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  Speaker 4: back of it.
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  Speaker 5: He was a genuine option.
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  Speaker 4: He reset, it was a genuine option again, and then
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  Speaker 4: he gets to try the benefit off the back of it.
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  Speaker 1: So if there's anything that thinks not skillful enough, you
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  Speaker 1: don't need skill for that.
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  Speaker 5: No, No, that's an effort. That's one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 5: And you would do that how many times? Get the ball?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah it was a turnover. Yeah, it was a turnover.
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  Speaker 2: And then Malcolm, at the end of the at the
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  Speaker 2: end of that thing, it was just what's what's a Malcolm,
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  Speaker 2: Oh look, let's just not talk about that. The saddest
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  Speaker 2: things in the world. It's ten seconds of just hell yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you've got to do it. You can do it
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  Speaker 2: sometimes twelve times without a rest. What are they Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: both burpies and sprints.
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  Speaker 6: So sprint to the ten, ten, hit the ground, back
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  Speaker 6: to the twenty, back to the sprint, and then go
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  Speaker 6: through the twenty, hit the ground, hit the ground on
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  Speaker 6: the ten and hit the try line and do that
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  Speaker 6: six times.
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  Speaker 1: It's one set.
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  Speaker 5: Why are they called Malcolm? That sounds quite friendly. I
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: was made up.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Malcolm and he was a wanker.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly real, real big origin play and a lot
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: of people have spoken about it. Was Jojo for feed up. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: just before halftime, huge huge play. So he came in
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: to shut it down. Stop stop their play, went to
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: make the next tackle, hit the ground, got up and
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  Speaker 4: then tackled hearts and younger.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't he the reason they made it a little break?
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  Speaker 2: They shift, he's gone. He's taken his meters and not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of wingers do this. He's taken his meters.
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  Speaker 2: Could have did the glory thing and did a stupid
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  Speaker 2: ass time go around and thick the ball back in,
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  Speaker 2: took his medicine straight backing, quick play the ball and
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  Speaker 2: then I play later kick toy through catch.
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  Speaker 1: That's that like again, another.
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  Speaker 4: One like really measured, really measured game by Queensland, genuine
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  Speaker 4: game plan to.
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  Speaker 5: Attack their right edge and yeah, just like.
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  Speaker 6: It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was. It was a fairly close game in the
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: first half, but yeah, second half was it's the grind.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Remember, you know, you win the grinds, and at the
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: start of the game we're winning, and then that last
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: fifteen Queensland won that grind. It didn't look pretty, but
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: they scored and I got a I haven't said this yet,
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: but I got to take my hat off to bretton
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  Speaker 2: a Kora. Yeah, he played really well, thirty something tackles
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe, maybe twelve to fifteen carries eighty minutes
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  Speaker 2: and shut down Hudson Young and everyone else that came
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  Speaker 2: that way walk with the whole game.
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  Speaker 5: That is not easy to do, Tommy, I got to try.
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  Speaker 5: I can't believe that though.
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  Speaker 4: In one game, two front rowers both dropping off the kickoff,
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  Speaker 4: so then you flip down the second Yeah, yeah, Lindsay
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  Speaker 4: Collins drops it off the kickoff as well, kind.
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  Speaker 5: Of you know, the ball was played at but again
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: it wasn't deemed a rag, but hilarious was just like
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: it was cold. It was a little look. It was
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  Speaker 5: in the first couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Where was he running?
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: We kicked the penalty goal, took the two points and
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: then do you.
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  Speaker 1: Believe if he ran that and where he was going
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't get taken out?
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah he was was he was trying to go left. Yeah,
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: he was trying to spot just Coppis. Remember you're a ranger,
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  Speaker 5: just go straight up straight and all right, that's about
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: it for the for the bonus round.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: But coming up in the in the podcast proper, we've
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: got another round of the Queensland Quiz will be playing
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: for people who have registered online and we're also going
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: to cross live to the Cardival boys who are overcovering
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: the World Cups in the middle of the A tough life,
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  Speaker 4: How good is it for