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Gloria O’Neil-Savage – Alchemy of the Soul · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
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Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
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Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
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Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
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Speaker 1: Destination Unlimited. Having several near death experiences and one where
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Speaker 1: she was given her last rites at the age of
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Speaker 1: seventeen was a wake up call for my guest this
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Speaker 1: week on Destination Unlimited, Gloria O'Neill Savage. It opened her
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Speaker 1: to the concept of dimensionality, heaven on Earth, and vibrational medicine,
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Speaker 1: as well as other seeds planted in the crossover experience
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Speaker 1: that keep blooming in perfect timing and preparedness. Gloria is
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Speaker 1: a professional singer, associate Polarity practitioner, and certified educational instructor,
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Speaker 1: Reiki Master, and interior designer. She's also a TSH Vibrational
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Speaker 1: Healing and Total Sensory Integration instructor and practitioner, as well
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Speaker 1: as a practicing aromatherapist and instructor since nineteen ninety five
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Speaker 1: and an astrologer since nineteen eighty. Her website is arcancient
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Speaker 1: dot com and she joins me this week to share
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Speaker 1: her path and book, Alchemy of the Soul The Arc
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Speaker 1: of the Ancients. Please join me in welcoming to Destination unlimited,
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Speaker 1: my friend, the Gloria O'Neil Savage. Welcome, Gloria.
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Speaker 2: Well, Hi Victor, How are you wonderful?
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Speaker 1: How are you.
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Speaker 2: Well on this wonderful day over your overcast in Cleveland.
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Speaker 2: I'm actually doing fairly well. I have a light in
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Speaker 2: the world, and I have someone witnessing the light that
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Speaker 2: is also the light with me.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful. Thank you, Gloria. Congratulations on your book, Alchemy of
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Speaker 1: the Soul The Arc of the Ancients, being ranked number
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Speaker 1: eight in Amazon's Miracles and Spirituality Group. Congratulations.
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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. I'm ecstatic. I'm gop smacked.
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Speaker 1: And we'll be discussing the book a little later. But
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Speaker 1: let's start with your early path. What was your life
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Speaker 1: like prior to your near death experience when you were seventeen,
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Speaker 1: From the standpoint of spirituality and what your aspirations were.
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Speaker 2: Well, I was a little bit of a different person,
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Speaker 2: so I spent a lot of time alone in Make
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Speaker 2: believe Land, singing and dancing and entertaining. I pretend all
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Speaker 2: kinds of things. I was a priest, I had a shopkeeper,
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Speaker 2: I had so forth go down in the park, because
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Speaker 2: back then you got out of the house and you
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Speaker 2: didn't come back until the end of the day. And
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Speaker 2: so of course i'd be miles away even but I'd
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Speaker 2: go down to the what we call the valley, which
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Speaker 2: is the park down here, and there'd be fairy fields
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Speaker 2: and there would be these ain't tall life beings would
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Speaker 2: be I mean tallest trees, and they would stand and
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Speaker 2: be laughing and gesturing with one another, and I would
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Speaker 2: sing and dance with them, and they would love it,
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Speaker 2: and I mean I would bow on everything. So I
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Speaker 2: did that. I told you previously. I played chess with
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Speaker 2: my father, which I love. And I like reading and
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Speaker 2: filling my mind with whatever. And luckily we had books
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Speaker 2: at home, so I would digest as much of that
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Speaker 2: information as possible. And of course we always had the library,
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Speaker 2: and we had library days at school when we had
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Speaker 2: the bookmobile. And I was thinking just actually today, because
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Speaker 2: I have so many teachers in my life or people
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Speaker 2: in charge or administrators or so forth, and I've been
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Speaker 2: thinking about what's happening with the education system for so
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Speaker 2: long now, and I've written a little bit about that
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Speaker 2: at the end of my book too, where I think
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Speaker 2: We're going, which is more to a Rudolf Steiner version
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Speaker 2: with using gardens and so forth. And I thought, why
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Speaker 2: don't we have mobile set of just a mobile book,
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Speaker 2: which I don't even know if they have that anymore,
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Speaker 2: but mobile classes on a boss. So it would be
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Speaker 2: all set up for whatever class, history, designing, technology, whatever
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Speaker 2: that is, and you could design it to have the
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Speaker 2: kids get right on the bus. And I try not
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Speaker 2: to use the word kid actually, because that's a baby
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Speaker 2: goat and the children is a more appropriate term there.
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Speaker 2: So I would do that, and I had some friends
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Speaker 2: who play with I would make stages in my backyard
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Speaker 2: on our picnic table and put a big curtain up
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Speaker 2: and invite the neighbors over, much to my mother's clagrete,
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Speaker 2: because she would come home to this, and I'd play
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Speaker 2: records and sing and I'd be singing Wretha Franklin and
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Speaker 2: Sam and Day and with some barber stroke saying and whatever,
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Speaker 2: and to these adults that I had chair set up for.
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Speaker 2: So I did that. Sometimes I'd make a little fair
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Speaker 2: back there, like a could make bake games and take
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Speaker 2: advice a gold wheel and make it so you could
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Speaker 2: spin it and it would stop. And I used I
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Speaker 2: think it was the strip from the Life game for
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Speaker 2: people to bet on, And I'd buy a great big
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Speaker 2: bag of popcorn at the store and sell cups of that,
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Speaker 2: cups of kool Aid. And I just liked it. I
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Speaker 2: like inventing things.
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Speaker 1: So other than these light beings that you witnessed, you
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Speaker 1: had a fairly normal child to tell us about these
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Speaker 1: light beings.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're just tall emanating, like they're like like diffusing lights,
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Speaker 2: sort of like you see an aura, but stronger than that,
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Speaker 2: more more apparent for me to see than that, like
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Speaker 2: like steam light coming off of them, It would be
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Speaker 2: the best way to say it, where an ore is
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Speaker 2: not somewhat it's kind of like steam, but it's not
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Speaker 2: diffusing like that, like that light is.
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Speaker 1: Standing. What was your understanding as to who they were?
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Speaker 2: I didn't really have one. All I knew is in fact,
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Speaker 2: that's in my book because I said, when are we
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Speaker 2: going to talk about the light being? How come people?
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Speaker 2: And I thought, because I was a mischievous child, like
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Speaker 2: not stealing, but just creating, Like what I just told
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Speaker 2: you type of things are getting kids to go on
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Speaker 2: a adventure and tire our bikes and wagons up together
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Speaker 2: and being things like that that maybe I'm not or
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Speaker 2: I you know, believe it or not. I talked a lot,
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Speaker 2: and I would talking class or not have a lot
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Speaker 2: of patience for people to come up with answers and
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Speaker 2: so forth. So I thought, maybe I'm just who mis
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Speaker 2: bad for them to everybody to talk about it, because
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Speaker 2: surely everyone knows about them. I didn't think I was
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Speaker 2: the only one seeing them. I just thought people were
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Speaker 2: not allowed to talk about it now because it was
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Speaker 2: so apparent.
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Speaker 1: What happened when you were seventeen that led to your
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Speaker 1: near death experience.
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Speaker 2: So by the time I was seventeen in school, I
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Speaker 2: had transferred from Catholic school to a public school. And
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Speaker 2: part of the reason was because there were good looking
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Speaker 2: boys that were going down the street. I knew they
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Speaker 2: were going to the public school if it they in
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Speaker 2: the Catholic school, If I stayed in the Catholic School Magnificat,
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Speaker 2: then I would have been there's no boys. So as
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Speaker 2: silly as the thought is when you're a teenager, it
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Speaker 2: was foremost in my mind all of a sudden. So
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Speaker 2: I went to a public school, and I knew I
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Speaker 2: didn't really know anyone except for a couple other people
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Speaker 2: that left Catholic school, and really I started to get
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Speaker 2: picked on, and it's kind of it was scary at
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Speaker 2: the time, and so I tried to just start fitting
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Speaker 2: in as best as I could, you know, instead of
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Speaker 2: getting straight a's, my grades started to suffer. And because
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Speaker 2: I was trying not because I was kind of getting
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Speaker 2: picked on because of being getting the answers, and I
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Speaker 2: wanted to be a cool kid. So I started to
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Speaker 2: not get straight a's, and I felt guilty about that
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Speaker 2: with my parents then, who are working so hard, and
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Speaker 2: that now I'm not living up to a different part
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Speaker 2: of my obligation, which is to do the best I
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Speaker 2: can academically and so and get scholarship and all that
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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And so I was feeling guilty and
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Speaker 2: worse and worse and worse about myself, and I thought
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Speaker 2: maybe I should just not be here. And eventually I
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Speaker 2: really did get sick. And at the time I also
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Speaker 2: was working out at Halley's Downtown and go to school
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Speaker 2: in the morning and go to Kelly's at the afternoon,
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Speaker 2: my ankles started swelling. I mean, my feet were just
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Speaker 2: killing me, and I'd have to take my high heels
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Speaker 2: off and try to put my feet on a cool
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Speaker 2: floor because they were just on fire and swollen. But
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Speaker 2: I just kept working. And then I was getting these tears,
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Speaker 2: which I know are migraines now, but I didn't know
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Speaker 2: that term at the time really, and i'd have to
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Speaker 2: put my head down because it got so heavy and
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Speaker 2: would be just bringing away in me like a sorry
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Speaker 2: to explain, I'm sure migraine person can tell you you're blinded.
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Speaker 2: So that was another thing. And then I just couldn't really.
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Speaker 2: It was got too hard for me to get up,
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Speaker 2: and so I lay in my back and I was
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Speaker 2: just told my mom under the covers. I would just say,
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Speaker 2: I'm not really well enough to go to school. I
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Speaker 2: don't feel so good, mom, And she was busy going
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Speaker 2: to work because my parents owned the store, so I'm okay,
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Speaker 2: but she probably bring me some ginger ale or something
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Speaker 2: like that. And and my whole body started to swell
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Speaker 2: up and turn green, and then all of my joints
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Speaker 2: were red and flame like purple, like big bruises on
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Speaker 2: my wrists and elbows and ankles and knees so forth,
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Speaker 2: and my fingers and clothes were like bludes. And so
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Speaker 2: I was proceeding to do this every day and telling
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Speaker 2: my mom, I still just don't feel so good. And now,
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Speaker 2: as an early younger child, I would get gladder infections,
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Speaker 2: and so it was kind of I would get sick.
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Speaker 2: So it wasn't like completely out of the blue or
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Speaker 2: different from my mom and for me to have this
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Speaker 2: getting sick time. And one day I was one of
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Speaker 2: these days. I'm in bed and I hear a knock
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Speaker 2: on the back door, and I got in my bedroom watch.
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Speaker 2: I went to the porch off the back off the
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Speaker 2: bathroom upstairs and looked down and I saw it as
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Speaker 2: my friend Denise, and I'm like, oh boy. So I
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Speaker 2: put my robot and managed my way downstairs, which was
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Speaker 2: really difficult, and I opened the door and she looks
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Speaker 2: at me and her mouth drops open, and she's like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, what is really with you? And so
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Speaker 2: she comes in and was sitting in the living room
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Speaker 2: and she says, hello, Oh my God, just said, does
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Speaker 2: your mom know? Does your mom seeing you? And I
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Speaker 2: go not really, I've been kind of hiding under the cover.
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Speaker 2: She goes, well, I'm calling your mom right now at
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Speaker 2: the store. No no, no, no, no no. She goes,
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Speaker 2: all right, well, then you call her. I'm like no, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 2: Don't bother them because they were busy working and you
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Speaker 2: didn't like to. I mean not that my parents were
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Speaker 2: cruel or something. They were just it was just kind
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Speaker 2: of how it was back then. People worked and it
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Speaker 2: was busy, and I didn't want to interrupt them, and
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Speaker 2: the other part of me was kind of ready to
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Speaker 2: just go cross over because it was just so hard
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Speaker 2: to be down here. And other things that happened. Her
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Speaker 2: house was robbed, and I was already having these psychic
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Speaker 2: experience experiences and hearing things and hearing people's minds and thought,
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Speaker 2: so all these things were happening already, and I had
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Speaker 2: no want to talk about that with and so, and
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Speaker 2: they were actually happening, and they bore themselves out. So anyway,
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Speaker 2: I said, I'll talk. I will tell my mom as
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Speaker 2: soon as she gets home from work, and so I did.
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Speaker 2: I said, Mom, I just really don't feel so good
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Speaker 2: and I think that, and so she still doesn't see
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Speaker 2: me because I got I'm covered, and she's not looking
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Speaker 2: at the whites of my eyes, which were completely green,
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Speaker 2: and so she makes them. She takes me to the
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Speaker 2: emergency room and the doctor gives me a shot of adrenaline.
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Speaker 2: I said, I just can't stay awake anymore, and I don't.
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Speaker 2: Everything hurts. Of course, they draw a blood and so forth,
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Speaker 2: and so he gives me a shot shot of adrenaline.
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Speaker 2: He says, I'm going to be back had to check
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Speaker 2: on you, and I said, well, can I just lay
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Speaker 2: down here and just and so he says yeah. So
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Speaker 2: I fell back asleep, and then he came back in
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Speaker 2: and he says, you feel any more energy? Do you
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Speaker 2: feel less tired? And I said not really, and he
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Speaker 2: gives me another shot of returnlet and he says, and
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Speaker 2: I'll be back to check on you. And I well,
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Speaker 2: fell back asleep, and then he came back in and
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Speaker 2: the third time he gives me the shot of adrenaline.
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Speaker 2: I lied to him and said, yes, I'm starting to
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Speaker 2: feel more energy because I felt bad for my mom
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Speaker 2: waiting for me when she worked so hard and she
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Speaker 2: needs to get some sleep. And so, you know, my
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Speaker 2: mom took me home then and then she says, I
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Speaker 2: think I'm just going to draw you a bath and
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Speaker 2: said okay. So she's fill in the bathtub up and
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Speaker 2: then she leaves and I get in the bathtub it
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Speaker 2: she opens the door and she comes in and she looks.
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Speaker 2: I mean, she says, oh my god, did that actor
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Speaker 2: look at you? And I'm like nodding because I'm barely
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Speaker 2: staying awake. And she goes downstairs and I hear her
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Speaker 2: on the phone screaming that the doctor he'd sent me home.
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm taking her back right away, and so she did,
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Speaker 2: and they wheeled me in and then that's really all
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Speaker 2: I remember until I died and crossed over and I
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Speaker 2: start in a cute like Roman type cathedral, like stone marble,
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Speaker 2: and it's I can't see far back enough to home
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Speaker 2: far back. It goes with stadium style style seating but
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Speaker 2: not like cushions, and everything like stone, and everybody's praying
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Speaker 2: and for forgiveness. They're going over their sins and it's
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Speaker 2: all in the same language, but it's not the language
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Speaker 2: I speak now, And the closest I can come to
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Speaker 2: it is Latin because I took Latin, but it wasn't that,
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Speaker 2: and that's what made me become conscious of being in
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Speaker 2: this place was this loud murmuring and praying, and when
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Speaker 2: I looked down, I could see in the center of
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Speaker 2: this oval shaped space this three beings of light in
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Speaker 2: the center, a very large chair in the middle, and
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Speaker 2: two like two people standing on either side, but there
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Speaker 2: were light. And then I saw light beings all around
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Speaker 2: that oval, praying and in such a state of blessed
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Speaker 2: like it was they achieved the highest honor you could
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Speaker 2: put of what you could possibly achieve on the planet,
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Speaker 2: being where they were. And this is hindsight when I
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Speaker 2: come back and think about how that felt and looked
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Speaker 2: at what I was looking at. And then so I'm
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Speaker 2: continuing to go over my life and ask for forgiveness
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Speaker 2: for like I'm in confession or something, but I'm watching
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Speaker 2: it like a movie, living it. And the next thing
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Speaker 2: I know, it was as if it was my time,
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Speaker 2: and I got sucked into that light and then everything
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Speaker 2: became this musical light soup, like I was swimming in
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Speaker 2: this light soup. Soup. The word soup's terrible because it's
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Speaker 2: hard to it's not a very good word. Bath. Let's
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Speaker 2: put it that way, A bath of this beautiful And
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Speaker 2: then it was like in every cell of my body,
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Speaker 2: though I don't recall having body, and all I could
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Speaker 2: hear was this divine emanation singing into every cell you
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Speaker 2: are love, I love you, I love you, I love you.
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Speaker 2: And the feeling of that was better than anything I've
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Speaker 2: ever experienced in my entire life, and I have had
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Speaker 2: some amazing and glorious moments down here. And then I
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Speaker 2: was like, it was like that time, that cleansing, if
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Speaker 2: you will, that embedding of this bass bathing everything in
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Speaker 2: me with this light and it's not light light down
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Speaker 2: here either, it's a different it's a whole different light.
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Speaker 2: It's an effusive, effervescent light. And then walking, but I
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Speaker 2: call it float walking because it's not like walking with
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Speaker 2: your feet and it's not like you're walking on the ground,
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Speaker 2: but you're sort of by the ground. And in fact,
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Speaker 2: when I can tell you this too, when I was
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Speaker 2: in that stadium, everything I'm experiencing sensory wise is not
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Speaker 2: with the senses that we have down here. So it's
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Speaker 2: my third eye, which I know now I didn't know then,
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Speaker 2: and that has three hundred and sixty degrees as air comfortable,
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Speaker 2: so conferential view. And then how you hear is totally
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Speaker 2: clear audiently but clear. Ah, And so float walking with
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Speaker 2: who I know of is Jesus. And you know it's
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Speaker 2: beautiful as a garden. What dreams may come kind of
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Speaker 2: comes close to it, as Robin Williams describes things and
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Speaker 2: things like that. That's how this was, but more real
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Speaker 2: than anything here I've ever experienced. Dat Cainess also tell you.
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Speaker 2: And there's a girl, though, young girl that was painting
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Speaker 2: for I saw I found a long about ten years
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Speaker 2: ago or so, and she was painting heaven as a child,
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Speaker 2: and I thought that's very close. And so as we're walking,
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Speaker 2: I now notice there's this long line because we're not
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Speaker 2: now there's this street, this avenue, all these different buildings
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Speaker 2: and houses, and there's a long lot of people going
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Speaker 2: up these stairs into this building. So I'm like, hey,
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Speaker 2: what's going on over there? And Jesus is like, okay,
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Speaker 2: you want to you want to go check it out?
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Speaker 2: Of course I'm paraphrasing this, but we go over there
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Speaker 2: and I float walk up those stairs and into the
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Speaker 2: building and there on the cubicle to the side. As
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Speaker 2: I get closer and closer in further and further in,
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Speaker 2: I know these people more and more intimately, and the
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Speaker 2: other's cousins and so forth, until they're my siblings, my
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Speaker 2: sisters and brothers in this room and my mother who's
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Speaker 2: completely wrecked, I mean, just like I've never seen her.
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Speaker 2: And my ottle nephew was probably three four years old
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Speaker 2: at the time, and he was at my oldest sister,
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Speaker 2: Barb who has crossed over's knee and said, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's asking his mom, you know what's going on, and
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Speaker 2: she just shaking her head. She's got no words for him.
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Speaker 2: And that's completely unlike that, sister, Barbaush And so I'm
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Speaker 2: like what. Then I float back. We're in the ceiling,
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Speaker 2: you know, opened the ceiling floating and that I looked
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Speaker 2: down and I see this casket and an instantly I'm like,
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Speaker 2: oh no, and I float over there and it's me
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Speaker 2: and I've zoom back to Jesus and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 2: you got to get me, You got to get me back.
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Speaker 2: They can't handle this. And he's like, oh, you want
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Speaker 2: to go back. I'm like, oh, yeah, you I can't.
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Speaker 2: I can't leave them like this. And then I became
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Speaker 2: conscious in my wob well, actually the first time was
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Speaker 2: becoming conscious. I started to wake up and my mom
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Speaker 2: was on my arm, crying and in the bed, in
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Speaker 2: the hospital bed, and I looked up and I saw
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Speaker 2: Happy Days. Was that it was ten thirty And I said, no,
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Speaker 2: don't worry, I'm going to be okay. Jesus told me
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Speaker 2: I was going to be okay. He's like, oh, do
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Speaker 2: you even know? You're trying to make me feel okay?
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Speaker 2: And then I just said was it. I went out again.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to hold on. At that point,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to take a quick break. My guest
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Speaker 1: is my dear friend, Gloria O'Neill Savage. Her book is
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Speaker 1: called Alchemy of the Soul The Arc of the Ancients. Gloria,
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Speaker 1: please share with our listeners where they can get your
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Speaker 1: book and find out more about you and your amazing story.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. Well. You can find my book on Amazon
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Speaker 2: right now. It's in both kindle and hardback versions. You
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Speaker 2: can get it there.
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Speaker 1: book Alchemy of the Soul, The Arc of the Ancients.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the last segment, you were talking
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Speaker 1: about sort of waking up from this near death experience
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Speaker 1: and your mother was there, and then you went back
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Speaker 1: again what happened.
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Speaker 2: So then I was running in a jungle, sweating, and
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Speaker 2: this black panther jaguar thing is jump running after me.
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Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm jumping and running and jumping and running.
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Speaker 2: And this is the part of memory I have of
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Speaker 2: it because I was so far gone. I had died already.
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Speaker 2: And when I came to consciousness in my body, my
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Speaker 2: spirit had awareness in my body, but my body was
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Speaker 2: like it was not mine. It was like a tomb,
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Speaker 2: like I was a sarcophagus of myself. And I could
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Speaker 2: tell there were there was I could hear the priest
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Speaker 2: and the two nuns next to me giving me my
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Speaker 2: last rites, and I could hear my mom crying and
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Speaker 2: trying to keep it together, and I'm trying to open
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Speaker 2: an eye and move something to let them know I'm here.
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Speaker 2: I'm not gone, I'm here. And so then I'm out
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Speaker 2: of my body and I'm in the ceiling again, and
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to shake my mom. Mom, I'm here, I'm
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Speaker 2: not gone, I'm here, and the doctor is telling I
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Speaker 2: could hear and see the whole thing. The doctor's telling her,
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but missus O'Neill, but you're gonna have to
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Speaker 2: just make preparations, you know, for your daughter, and you
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Speaker 2: know she's just not answering, and so forth. And I
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Speaker 2: could see the priest and the two nuns that I
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Speaker 2: could see my body. I'm like, oh my god. So
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Speaker 2: i ll back in my body and I push and
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Speaker 2: push and push and push until I get my left
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Speaker 2: eye open, and they're they're standing at my left and
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Speaker 2: they are a bit startled, of course, and they realize, well,
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Speaker 2: I'm here. So then that starts a whole string of
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Speaker 2: events that's happening with the team, the doctors and so forth.
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Speaker 2: And because I've got this green bio coming out my nose.
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Speaker 2: I got it coming out. I have a tube in
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Speaker 2: my mouth, I have tube out my side, and I
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Speaker 2: start to get sick. So now I'm trying to hold
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Speaker 2: my belly and I'm vomiting this stuff. Sorry to be
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Speaker 2: so graphic, and and it's awful because I could now
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Speaker 2: my belly hurts, hurts, hurts, hurts, hurt, and my throat hurts.
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Speaker 2: My note because from the tubes and so forth. And
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Speaker 2: they come in, they rush in, and then they rip
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Speaker 2: turkey baster in there to suck it out. And they
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Speaker 2: have opened me up from the middle of my breast
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Speaker 2: to the top mid part of my hip and cleaned
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Speaker 2: the organs as best as they could, because what had
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Speaker 2: happened was my appendix had ruptured and it was that
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Speaker 2: was in my system for like two weeks. So they said,
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Speaker 2: she's not going to survive this previous to this, what
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, and while I was out.
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Speaker 6: And so.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I did. I just that was it. I
34:45
Speaker 2: was a whole nother place with God and came back
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Speaker 2: to Earth again to a lot of Pepe.
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Speaker 1: When you returned from this happened when you returned from
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Speaker 1: this experience. How did it change your understand of the
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Speaker 1: divine and our relationship with the divine?
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Speaker 2: Well, I knew that God love knows me, and that
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Speaker 2: I just felt God loves everyone, and we just have
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Speaker 2: We just don't have a complete awareness. Something's happened. Every
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Speaker 2: not everybody knows this. I didn't even know that part
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Speaker 2: of it at the time. I mean, I knew there
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Speaker 2: were these guides and so forth, but I didn't have
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Speaker 2: this connection that deep to know God the way at
35:33
Speaker 2: that happ That experience created and it was it was
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Speaker 2: happy because I thought we'd never die. There's no death,
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Speaker 2: and this animes we're animating this flesh, our soul and
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Speaker 2: spirit in this human body. But that's not who we are.
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Speaker 2: We're just this human body. In fact, I'll just tell
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Speaker 2: you a quick story why. I was doing yoga on
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Speaker 2: a beach some nineteen ninety three for something like that,
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Speaker 2: and I felt myself, in final relaxation get hopped onto
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Speaker 2: the bot onto this beach like a baby and be born.
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Speaker 2: And I heard the universe speaking to me, saying, the
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Speaker 2: poor we will have with us always you. We will
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Speaker 2: only have this short time and That's when I had
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Speaker 2: this instant under his comprehension that what that really means
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Speaker 2: is that we just have this who you're living. You've
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Speaker 2: got this life as Victor this time. I've got this
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Speaker 2: life as Gloria this time. And then the I could
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Speaker 2: feel the steam coming off me, and the yoga instructor, Linda,
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Speaker 2: walks around and she looks down. She goes, oh, look,
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Speaker 2: we even have a baby being born. Look at the
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Speaker 2: steam coming off of her. So once again I'm witnessed.
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Speaker 2: And so that is this life that we have down here,
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Speaker 2: is this short time we have this incarnation as this person,
37:15
Speaker 2: and we can wake up and remember as much as
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Speaker 2: possible and reconnect to the divine that is within and without.
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Speaker 1: And what led you to sharing your story in your
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Speaker 1: book Alchemy of the Soul The Arc of the Ancients.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's a great question, Victor. So I closed my
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Speaker 2: shop at the end of September of two thousand and
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Speaker 2: eight because I did the extract my last healing center,
37:47
Speaker 2: and so I had done the astrology and saw that
37:53
Speaker 2: so there's going to be this terrible crash, a mortgage
37:56
Speaker 2: crash in particular in October, and so negotiated out of
38:02
Speaker 2: my lease with Marty. He was very nice about it
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Speaker 2: and very kind. And the month before and I came
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Speaker 2: home in one afternoon. It's sunny and it's nice, and
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting in my yard. I'm by Dak and I'm like, well,
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Speaker 2: this is really nice. I haven't really experienced my own
38:27
Speaker 2: yard in so many years because I'm always working. I
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Speaker 2: was always with the center or the school or the
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Speaker 2: teaching or the clients, and so it was like just
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Speaker 2: big kind of bathing in it and basking in this
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Speaker 2: lovely sun sunny afternoon. And then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: I felt that presence of archangel Gabriel, which I now
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Speaker 2: know is Gabriel because I've had these other experiences saying,
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Speaker 2: you've done a great job, and you've finished the task
38:59
Speaker 2: that we wanted you to do before, and now we
39:03
Speaker 2: have another task for you. And he said, now is
39:08
Speaker 2: the time to write the book you came here with.
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Speaker 2: And I'm I'm just getting a rush telling you this
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Speaker 2: right now, And so that was it. I began to
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Speaker 2: write that book. But that was two thousand and nine.
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Speaker 2: We could see it's taken all this time, and interestingly enough,
39:29
Speaker 2: Pluto went into Capricorn in two thousand and nine, and
39:32
Speaker 2: that squared my natal venus, and it took all this
39:36
Speaker 2: time for Pluto now to go into Aquarius and forming
39:40
Speaker 2: a grin to my natal venus and my natal my
39:43
Speaker 2: venus is in Libra and my Mars is in Gemini,
39:47
Speaker 2: and it isn't it right now forming this grand air
39:50
Speaker 2: trine and of course air communication. And so I find
39:57
Speaker 2: all that it's just fascinating to live live it, to
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Speaker 2: see it, and to witness this alchemy, which is what
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Speaker 2: this is. So that's how I started to write the book.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting that we share the common angelic partner, Gabriel.
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Speaker 1: I have shared this before. When I took my first
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Speaker 1: reiki class back in the late nineteen eighties, the teacher
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Speaker 1: had instructed us to place our palms over our hearts,
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Speaker 1: close our eyes, and see the first thing that came
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Speaker 1: into our field. Division I did not have angel consciousness
40:33
Speaker 1: up to that point, at least not in the traditional sense,
40:37
Speaker 1: and immediately I saw what I perceived to be an angel.
40:40
Speaker 1: And the teacher asked us to share what we were seeing,
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Speaker 1: and I said, I'm seeing an angel, and he said,
40:45
Speaker 1: ask the angel its name, and immediately I responded, I
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Speaker 1: heard Gabriel. And that night I went home and my daughter,
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Speaker 1: who was thirteen at the time, said she wanted to
40:54
Speaker 1: try this reiki stuff that I was learning. And I
40:57
Speaker 1: placed my palms over the back of her head and
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Speaker 1: she closed her eyes and she said, Daddy, I see
41:02
Speaker 1: our family members who have passed before. She saw her
41:04
Speaker 1: grandfather and several other people who had passed before she
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Speaker 1: was born, and she said, Daddy, there's an angel flying
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Speaker 1: above them. I had asked the angel it's name, and
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Speaker 1: she responded, Gabriel. So that connection is really wonderful.
41:18
Speaker 2: Mm hmm amen to that. Well, of course, that just
41:23
Speaker 2: makes me. It's like I've got pop rocks going off
41:26
Speaker 2: inside me in a great wonderful way.
41:31
Speaker 1: How did the spirit of Mary Magdalen? How did the
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Speaker 1: spirit of Mary Magdalene come into your life?
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Speaker 2: Well, she's come in different ways. I would say the
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Speaker 2: first and I think really the first first first time chronologically.
41:51
Speaker 2: I mayn't be out of order here, but I would say.
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Speaker 15: The the one time I was in my second shop
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42:03
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42:09
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42:11
Speaker 2: And I had a landlord that was an attorney. It
42:16
Speaker 2: was not a he's not on this path like this.
42:21
Speaker 2: And I had to go down to a meeting in Columbus.
42:25
Speaker 2: It's a couple of hours journey, and came back and
42:31
Speaker 2: we had this big ice storm snowstorm here, and so
42:34
Speaker 2: the roof was melting. The water's coming in, it's going
42:37
Speaker 2: into my case, into my computer, into the cash register,
42:41
Speaker 2: into if things are floating in the display case, and
42:44
Speaker 2: there's a big pocket above dripping, and ends up that
42:55
Speaker 2: the landlord says we should go up, I should go
42:58
Speaker 2: up and shovel the roof. And I'm like, I'm not
43:03
Speaker 2: going up and shoveling the roof. Well, it ends up
43:07
Speaker 2: being a big fiasco. He comes huffing in. He's an attorney,
43:11
Speaker 2: and he started yelling at us and calling us all
43:15
Speaker 2: kinds of pretty names. And I had three customers there
43:21
Speaker 2: at the time as well at this point, and he
43:27
Speaker 2: I said, no, you can leave now because you're not
43:29
Speaker 2: resolving this issue and you can't be talking to us
43:32
Speaker 2: like this, and we have the right to quiet enjoyment here.
43:36
Speaker 2: And so he's I don't have to get out of
43:40
Speaker 2: here atough I don't even go into the whole thing,
43:42
Speaker 2: but he ends up hitting my business.
43:43
Speaker 6: Partner in the face, and so we ended up we
43:52
Speaker 6: call the police and they said, we know exactly who
43:54
Speaker 6: you're talking about, because and they describe him, and they
43:57
Speaker 6: tell us that they have to go down to the
43:59
Speaker 6: bank quite often because he's down there raising a ruckus
44:03
Speaker 6: about them cashing a check for him.
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Speaker 2: My godchild, who's crossed over. Just this past November, sweetheart
44:11
Speaker 2: had now done a search which I should have done
44:14
Speaker 2: previous to standing a contract, and found out three ex
44:18
Speaker 2: wives had filed abuse charges on him, and he got
44:23
Speaker 2: away with all of it, being the longtime attorney in Cleveland,
44:28
Speaker 2: and everybody, I thought, We've got to go and file
44:32
Speaker 2: charges against him for this, and everybody everybody advised me, No,
44:38
Speaker 2: my mother, my coach, my mom's said, Gloria, you don't
44:41
Speaker 2: want to work this hard for your business and lose
44:43
Speaker 2: it like this. You shouldn't be fighting him. My coach says,
44:48
Speaker 2: don't fight the boys in their own playground, because he's
44:53
Speaker 2: an attorney. So I'm wrestling with all of this, and
44:58
Speaker 2: I hear I'm standing behind my case one day in
45:00
Speaker 2: the store all by myself, and I hear Mary, and
45:06
Speaker 2: Mary says Gloria, I need you to do this for me,
45:12
Speaker 2: and I said okay. Eleven day trial ensued, and it
45:20
Speaker 2: was got awful. He had taken pictures because I had
45:24
Speaker 2: reiki symbols and astrology. We had the blending bar with
45:28
Speaker 2: romotherapy in there, and it was I mean, it was
45:31
Speaker 2: a beautiful place. And he brought all this as evidence
45:35
Speaker 2: that I'm a witch. So the judge ruled that he
45:41
Speaker 2: could that they could say I was a witch because
45:45
Speaker 2: he had this evidence. So he proceeded to call me that.
45:52
Speaker 2: That's how they addressed me the witch for eleven days.
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Speaker 2: At one point I'm in the hall because they didn't
46:02
Speaker 2: want to be in there, and you know, because he
46:04
Speaker 2: was just trying to give me any which way to
46:06
Speaker 2: go hard time. As I had re furbished that whole building,
46:11
Speaker 2: brought the bricks walls, I had them sand blasted. I
46:15
Speaker 2: did some of it. My nephew did some of it,
46:17
Speaker 2: a friend of his, I mean, and it was gorgeous, okay.
46:20
Speaker 2: And so in the hall down the hall is the
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Speaker 2: security guard and she's sitting at a desk and she
46:30
Speaker 2: had a little radio on and I hear the son
46:35
Speaker 2: Kaman from the Beatles letter B but Anyway, I found
46:41
Speaker 2: out that these women were coming up to me saying
46:44
Speaker 2: they also rented from him, and they were, you know,
46:47
Speaker 2: they had children, and they were oftentimes not a good place,
46:51
Speaker 2: and he was abusing them. So they thanked me.
46:56
Speaker 5: He was.
46:57
Speaker 2: I mean they were sitding there giving the judge of
46:59
Speaker 2: the anger and saying f you and walking out. I mean,
47:04
Speaker 2: it was beyond abominable behavior. But he was found guilty
47:11
Speaker 2: and he was eventually discard hm. So that was one occasion,
47:19
Speaker 2: of course, the other one there was, there's many. One
47:23
Speaker 2: time I was praying about why are there so many
47:25
Speaker 2: autistic children and what's going on with all these energetic disorders.
47:33
Speaker 2: This just doesn't right for you know, lupus and MS
47:38
Speaker 2: and five from my aljab and autism and so forth.
47:43
Speaker 2: And I hear Gloria, I'm nick Bella Magdala, and of
47:52
Speaker 2: course I right away started research. I wrote that down
47:55
Speaker 2: and I could see Brahma God Allah, my god Allah.
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Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's in everybody, and that drew me
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Speaker 2: into the hole. What the is which is an almond
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Speaker 2: shape Alban door La and of course Magdala and then
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Speaker 2: in Jamatria that is the one fifty three fish in
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Speaker 2: the net uh over to sixty five, which is the
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Speaker 2: people know that it's the sacred formula of Aristotles. And
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Speaker 2: then you have that omygdala, which is in the limbic system.
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Speaker 2: Initially my book was going to be called the Arc
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Speaker 2: of the Ancients, or excuse me, Alchemy of the Soul,
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Speaker 2: the a Olympic system, and then limbic is your system
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Speaker 2: we process your memory, emotion movements, and it's that is
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Speaker 2: and fight or flight, and it's more like the old
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Speaker 2: brain with their hippocampus, which is translates two seahorse and
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Speaker 2: then the Olympic system. That's how Also when you inhale
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Speaker 2: in aromatherapy, which I had taught us over and over
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Speaker 2: and over, in the two bipolar neurons, which goes into
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Speaker 2: your olfactory, which is memory, and it stimulates memory right away.
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Speaker 2: So that's why when you when I even tell you
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Speaker 2: cut grass or coffee, you can smell both from memory.
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Speaker 2: And so that I had done more research on it
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Speaker 2: and found out how that amic della had shrunk after
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Speaker 2: the teenage years in autistic children, but had over developed
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Speaker 2: in early years, and so that makes them very oversensitive
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Speaker 2: because it's fight or flight sensation, and so you don't
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Speaker 2: even have to touch some autistic you know, because there's spectrums
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Speaker 2: of it. Some of these artistic children, they they'll feel
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Speaker 2: you before you even and get close. And I've communicated
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Speaker 2: and worked with them even telepathically has worked better because
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Speaker 2: I don't have to go towards them and so farth
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Speaker 2: I can sit and wait for them. And so anyway,
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Speaker 2: there's many, many studies, and even that was that was
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Speaker 2: all back in Gosh two and nine ten, whatever it was,
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Speaker 2: and so then I learned it connected from me that
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Speaker 2: what we've done with is been so diletorious to the
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Speaker 2: divine feminine, which is half of who we are, that
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Speaker 2: this imbalance has made both feminine nature and masculine natures
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Speaker 2: unwell down here. So we have these cartoonish extreme binary
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Speaker 2: versions rather than the cell of ration of the divine
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Speaker 2: feminine and the divine masculine. Is something to be grateful
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Speaker 2: for and to create the balance back on this planet
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Speaker 2: that is very imbalanced. And I find that it's interesting too,
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Speaker 2: and I've written about this as well. I don't think
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Speaker 2: it must book, but the polar concept of multipolar which
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Speaker 2: is what Vladimir Putin's looking for from our own interpretation,
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Speaker 2: of world power and so forth. But it's all the
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Speaker 2: pole and the pole shift, and the whole conversation about
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Speaker 2: the poles, the North Pole, the South pole, the flat Earth,
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Speaker 2: which I'm not advocating at all because I don't believe
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Speaker 2: in that. I'm fully aware of Meritosthenes as well as
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Speaker 2: I've been out of the planet itself on several occasions
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Speaker 2: and look to see the sphere know that that's true,
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Speaker 2: other than a myriad of other things. And to me,
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Speaker 2: the whole flat earth story is one of those things
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Speaker 2: being pushed to confuse people more and conflate what's true.
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Speaker 2: And the whole idea of the heaven, the sphere and
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Speaker 2: kepler spheres and so forth, musical spheres and the idea
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Speaker 2: of roundness and fullness and embodiment is all of that
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Speaker 2: gets polluted in that false story. So yeah, that was
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Speaker 2: So that's when I started looking that up and started
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Speaker 2: researching that further and further and further. And I have
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Speaker 2: a lot of notes in the book about what you
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Speaker 2: can look at and the people that have done a
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Speaker 2: lot of wonderful research on that.
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Speaker 1: Tell us about your offerings at Arc of the Ancients.
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Speaker 2: Offerings at Ark of the ancient and thank you for asking.
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Speaker 2: So I create a lot of romatherapy products here for
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Speaker 2: to help people sleep, to help with pain. There's the
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Speaker 2: bone mover. There's the muscle Lease for people that work
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Speaker 2: out just to have muscle akes and pains, and that's
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Speaker 2: also real helpful. Other than the nutritional aspects that you
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Speaker 2: can always take, I always advocate that first to help
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Speaker 2: with leg cramps or if you work out a lot,
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Speaker 2: and so forth. Then each thing has evolved further for
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Speaker 2: when something wasn't enough for someone. So I've gone all
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Speaker 2: the way up to the pain master, both in a
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Speaker 2: roll on application, which is easy and that came through
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Speaker 2: actually just out of necessity the mother of invention with
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Speaker 2: someone back in nineteen ninety five or so. But anyway,
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Speaker 2: and then the creams I make, and they're design so
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Speaker 2: that they'll cover your surface, and they are I'm ready
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Speaker 2: to help absorb, because some create a viscous barrier so
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Speaker 2: that you don't absorb, but you want to absorb the
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Speaker 2: power and the healing of those therapeutic essential oils. So
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Speaker 2: we have that. I have the wise Woman, which is
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Speaker 2: what Angel Gabriel gave me that formula for when he
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Speaker 2: visited me I have just many many Royalty blends and
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Speaker 2: headache relief and breathing for asthma, allergies, colds, flus. In fact,
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Speaker 2: I use that for COVID. I've gotten over pneumonia myself
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Speaker 2: several times because I got pneumonia when I was sick
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Speaker 2: in the hospital and died. So many many things like that.
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Speaker 2: And that's at www dot orcancient dot com.
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Speaker 1: And what would you like readers to take away from
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Speaker 1: Alchemy of the Soul.
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Speaker 2: I would like to help ignite their own spirit, if
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Speaker 2: it's not already, and if it is already further inflame
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Speaker 2: it so that they, as well as I and so
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Speaker 2: many others down here, will help set the world on
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Speaker 2: fire with the Holy Spirit, the fire that does not burn,
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Speaker 2: which is what I believe and know in my heart,
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Speaker 2: is what this time is all about. And I believe
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Speaker 2: it is not the nice dream that wakes you up,
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Speaker 2: but the nightmare that shakes you wide awake.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, my guest, my dear friend, Gloria O'Neil savage, her
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Speaker 1: book Alchemy of the Soul, The Arc of the Ancients. Gloria,
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Speaker 1: one more time, please share with our listeners where they
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Speaker 1: can get your book.
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Speaker 2: You can get my book Amazon, and it's in two formats.
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Speaker 2: It's in hardback and it's in kindle right now, and
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Speaker 2: it's Alchemy of the Soul The Arc of the Ancients
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Speaker 2: by Gloria O'Neil Savage.
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Speaker 1: Gloria, thank you so much for joining us today and
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Speaker 1: sharing your remarkable and also your heart opening story.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, You'm so welcome, and thank you. Thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for having me, Victor.
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Speaker 1: My pleasure, and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited.
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Speaker 1: I'm Victor Lavoie Furman. Have a wonderful week.