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Teen Girl Naomi Irion Remains Found in Shallow Grave, Suspect Now Claims He's Crazy · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Teen girl Naomi Erieon is sitting in the early morning
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Speaker 1: hours in the parking lot of a Nevada Walmart. She's
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Speaker 1: waiting for her ride. It's one of those you ride
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Speaker 1: share buses that you see going around college campuses dropping
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Speaker 1: students off at one building or the other. Well, she
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Speaker 1: was going to catch a similar bus to her job
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Speaker 1: at Panasonic. It was one of those jobs where you
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Speaker 1: have to wear a hazmat suit to go in there
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Speaker 1: and build batteries. Highly technical. She's really good at it,
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Speaker 1: so that's why she's sitting alone in her car in
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Speaker 1: a Walmart parking lot in the dark, looking at her
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Speaker 1: phone like my children do incessantly. She's playing some game
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Speaker 1: or texting in the early morning hours, and then she
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Speaker 1: never shows up for work in the last hours. A
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Speaker 1: big development in the case of Naomi Erion, I mean,
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Speaker 1: see Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and Serious X one eleven.
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Speaker 1: We now know that teen girl Naomi Erion was kidnapped
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Speaker 1: right there from that Walmart parking lot in the dark
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Speaker 1: their early morning hours. She was brutally raped, shot dead.
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Speaker 1: Imagine the terror this girl went through, then buried in
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Speaker 1: the desert her body found in a shallow grave just
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Speaker 1: two weeks after she goes missing. Cops are led to
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Speaker 1: forty two year old Troy driver. May he wrought in hell.
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Speaker 1: And of course, when you're busted with DNA or what's
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Speaker 1: you're gonna do? Well, of course you can't fight modern science.
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Speaker 1: So he demands a psychological evaluation. Yeah, you know what
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Speaker 1: that means? That you were crazy at the time of
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Speaker 1: the incident, meaning you don't know wrong from right, or
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Speaker 1: you're incompetent to help or assist your attorney at trial.
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Speaker 1: That's incompetency. Now as far as insanity goes, can I
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Speaker 1: just point out that he walked back and forth around
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Speaker 1: her car, staring at her. She's on her phone. He
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Speaker 1: kidnaps her, Then he destroys her cell phone so she
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Speaker 1: can't be traced. He replaces the tires on his truck
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Speaker 1: in an attempt to cover up the crime. If that's crazy, people,
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Speaker 1: that's crazy like a fox. Now, when all of this
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Speaker 1: is uncovered, he declares, Oops, Okay, so I'm not insane
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Speaker 1: at the time of the crime. Let's go with m
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Speaker 1: what's left incompetency to stand trial? But before I get
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Speaker 1: into his competency or light thereof. I want to review
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Speaker 1: the facts. This guy now claiming he is incompetent to
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Speaker 1: stand trial. How did the whole thing start. Spread the
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Speaker 1: word about my sister as much as you can. Because
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Speaker 1: this was on Saturday morning. You don't know how fast
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Speaker 1: that trump is going. She could be anywhere right now.
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Speaker 1: We're out of time. It's so critical right now. Just
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Speaker 1: anything did you know or or or thought. It needs
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Speaker 1: to be reported. Truer words never spoken. And when I
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Speaker 1: hear the words we are out of time, that's not good.
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Speaker 1: We know the statistics. Imagine being taken in a kidnappers
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Speaker 1: vehicle every hour, sixty miles every minute, another mile away
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Speaker 1: from home. Now take a listen to the Lion County
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Speaker 1: Sheriffs Department press conference held late at night. Listen. When
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Speaker 1: I didn't hear I didn't see her on Saturday because
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Speaker 1: I went to bed super early and she got home.
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Speaker 1: She usually came home kind of later at night, and
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Speaker 1: so that wasn't weird. And then when I saw that
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Speaker 1: she didn't come home on Sunday, she worked early in
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Speaker 1: the morning and she were so early in the morning,
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Speaker 1: et cetera. She came she didn't come home on Sunday
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Speaker 1: and I knew something was wrong. I immediately, you know,
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Speaker 1: reached out to family Charis to see if they'd heard
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Speaker 1: from her. I reached out to all the jails and
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Speaker 1: hospitals in the nearby area, all the way from Churchill
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Speaker 1: County to Washoe County, Sacramento, Carson City, everywhere like that.
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Speaker 1: It was at that point that I knew something was wrong,
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Speaker 1: and I didn't make sure to call it dispatch on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever had that feeling where you don't know
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Speaker 1: where your daughter, your son is, or they lost in
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Speaker 1: the mall and they lost in the store, they're not
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Speaker 1: picking up their cell phone. You were hearing her brother, Casey,
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Speaker 1: who lives with her, describing when he realized something was
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Speaker 1: very wrong. This teen girl has a job with Panasonic
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Speaker 1: and works crazy hours off and catching the bus to
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Speaker 1: get to work. Now take a listen to this. The
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Speaker 1: search for a Nevada teenager stocked and abducted from a
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Speaker 1: Walmart parking lot has ended with the discovery of her body.
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Speaker 1: Police saying detectives acting on a tip found the remains
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Speaker 1: of eighteen year old Naomi Arion buried in a remote
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Speaker 1: area of Churchill County The teenager was abducted in her
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Speaker 1: own car while waiting for a shuttle bus on her
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Speaker 1: way to work in Reno. A forty one year old
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Speaker 1: x con was charged today with first degree kidnapping. Troy
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Speaker 1: Driver has a violent criminal record, including a sentence of
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Speaker 1: fifteen years in prison for his role in a nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety seven murder in northern California. You were just hearing
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Speaker 1: her friends at KTLA five breaking the heartrending news this
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Speaker 1: after Naomi's mother joined us begging, begging for help in
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Speaker 1: finding her girl. Listen, We're also looking for her purse,
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Speaker 1: it's a black back and any of her clothing. She
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Speaker 1: was wearing a blue Panasonic T shirt and she was
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Speaker 1: wearing a gray cardigan. And I think she was wearing
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Speaker 1: gray sweatpants and blue boots. They were either gray, black
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Speaker 1: or brown. I think they were like a faded black. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they're like they're knockoff us name brands. Yes. So if
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Speaker 1: you find any of that just laying out, please call.
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Speaker 1: It could be vital to saving her life, and that's
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Speaker 1: our number one goal right now. Please save my daughter
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Speaker 1: and bring her home. Please, anything, any little tiny bit
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Speaker 1: of information, please call her mother. Diana breaking down in tears.
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Speaker 1: The more we talked about the search for her daughter,
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Speaker 1: the more she broke down. I wonder if verbalizing in
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Speaker 1: that way what was happening made it too real for her.
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Speaker 1: We learned the body of Team Girl Naomi Erian found
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Speaker 1: in a shallow grave. Join an all star panel to
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Speaker 1: make sense of what we know right now. Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author of Red Flags on Amazon. She's the
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Speaker 1: host of Today with Doctor Wendy on KCBQ. You can
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Speaker 1: find her at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. Doctor Debbie
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Speaker 1: Joffe Ellis psychologist, Professor, Columbia University and New York author
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Speaker 1: of Rational Emotive Behavior. You can find her at Debbie
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Speaker 1: Joffe Ellis dot com. Renowned medical examiner. Joining us from
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Speaker 1: the state of Florida. Doctor Tim Gallagher, Lecturer, University Florida
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Speaker 1: Medical School, Forensic Medicine founder and host International Forensic Medicine
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Speaker 1: Death Investigation Conference. Karen Smith, forensic expert, lecturer, University Florida,
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Speaker 1: host of a hit series Shattered Souls podcast, but first
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Speaker 1: to Alexis tres Chuck, Crime online dot com investigative reporter
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Speaker 1: Joining us. Alexis take a listen to our friend Brianna
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Speaker 1: Connor ABC. It was in fact a tip from a
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Speaker 1: neighbor that helped investigators find driver and the truck connected
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Speaker 1: to the case. Another tip eventually led to Naomi's body.
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Speaker 1: Alexis Rustchuk, tell me everything you know about the location
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Speaker 1: of Naomi's body. Somebody called a tip into the police.
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Speaker 1: We don't know who it is, how they knew this,
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Speaker 1: because it was it's a very specific tip of where
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Speaker 1: a body is. They told the police there was a
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Speaker 1: shallow grave. I don't know if they said there's a
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Speaker 1: body or a grave, but they pointed the police in
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Speaker 1: the exact right location. This is a rural area and
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Speaker 1: what they found there is a shallow grave. I understand
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Speaker 1: that it is Churchill County. Is in Winston Churchill, Churchill County.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to figure out, Wendy Patrick, what do
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Speaker 1: we know or Alexas Terrestrict anyone on the panel that
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Speaker 1: is familiar with that area Churchill County. From Fernley, Nevada,
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Speaker 1: where she went missing, to Churchill County, Nevada, it's about
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Speaker 1: an hour and fifteen minutes, Okay, so pick it up there, Alexis,
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Speaker 1: you were in the middle of telling me about where
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Speaker 1: she was found, go ahead. So she was found in
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Speaker 1: Churchill County, which is almost sixty miles away from where
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Speaker 1: she went missing. She was found Churchill County. She went
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Speaker 1: missing in Fernley, Nevada, and it was found in Churchill County.
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Speaker 1: This is a rural county. Not even three thousand people
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Speaker 1: lived there. So somebody called in a tip about this
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Speaker 1: and led the police to her grave, not to her
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Speaker 1: in a house, her alive, unfortunately, to a grave what
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Speaker 1: they're calling a shallow grave. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Teen girl Naomi Arion vanishes in the night where she's
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Speaker 1: sitting in a parked card in Nevada Walmart parking lot,
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Speaker 1: waiting for her ride to work at Panasonic. In the
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Speaker 1: last hours. A big development in the case of Naomi Arion,
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Speaker 1: found raped, shot dead, and buried out in the Nevada desert.
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Speaker 1: The alleged perp, forty two year old Troy driver, claims
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Speaker 1: he's incompetent. I don't buy that for a minute. For
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Speaker 1: those of you just joining us, this po s technical
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Speaker 1: legal term, has been found competent to stand trial. Now
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Speaker 1: we know few details on his competency. Evaluation considered private
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Speaker 1: medical information under HIPPA was filed with the court. But
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Speaker 1: here's the deal. When you use insanity or incompetency as
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Speaker 1: a defense, those records typically are shared with the prosecutor
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Speaker 1: and are introduced in court. Now, maybe they used a
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Speaker 1: bench trial to determine competency, which means you just have
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Speaker 1: a judge. So we may never know what those medical
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Speaker 1: analyzes are. But I have tried incompetency cases, and you
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Speaker 1: have to listen to this. Not only does the prosecutor
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Speaker 1: have to try the murder case and all its scory
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Speaker 1: details for seeing Naomi's family to listen to all of that,
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Speaker 1: there has to be another trial for incompetency. Yes, a
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Speaker 1: trial within a trial before you even strike the jury
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Speaker 1: on guilt or innocence. Now, yeah, so you also have
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Speaker 1: to have a jury for an incompetency hearing a trial
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Speaker 1: unless you the defendant agrees to just do it with
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Speaker 1: a judge, and in that stage you hear everything the
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Speaker 1: defendant tells the shrink. Okay, that said, we don't have
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Speaker 1: our myths on the incompetency records, but we do know
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Speaker 1: a lot about forty two year old Troy Driver's actions
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Speaker 1: around the time of the murder and since what that
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Speaker 1: family had to go through the body of Naomi Erian
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Speaker 1: found renowned medical examiner joining us from the state of Florida.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Tim Gallagher, Lecturer, University Florida Medical School, Forensic Medicine.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to determine ay how they identified her and
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Speaker 1: be if we can figure out a cause of death
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Speaker 1: after this time lapse, Doctor Gallagher, there are many ways
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Speaker 1: to identify a dead person. You don't have to have DNA.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, when Gabby's body was found,
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Speaker 1: she was wearing a T shirt that her Gabby Potito,
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Speaker 1: that her parents immediately knew was hers. And we all
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Speaker 1: have certain identifying things that we wear. It could be
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Speaker 1: as simple as that. What are other ways other than DNA. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's a good way of a supporting piece of evidence
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Speaker 1: that would lend to somebody being identified, but it but
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Speaker 1: in order to identify somebody scientifically, it has to be
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Speaker 1: something that's part of their body. And things that are
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Speaker 1: part of their body could be a unique tattoo as
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Speaker 1: simple as that, or it could be a dental work
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Speaker 1: that they had done that is shown up on the
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Speaker 1: post more an X rays. There are also unique features
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Speaker 1: in the bones of the face. That if we take
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Speaker 1: an X ray of the remains and then we were
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Speaker 1: able to get an X ray of a person who
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Speaker 1: is alive, we can match the bones of the face.
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Speaker 1: You know, to you mean if she had had an
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Speaker 1: X ray in life, right, if she had an X
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Speaker 1: ray in life and we were able to acquire that
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Speaker 1: X ray and then compare it to the X ray
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Speaker 1: that we can before. If somebody had a broken leg
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Speaker 1: in life, and you find out this person has a
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Speaker 1: broken leg, this girl, to my knowledge, did not have
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Speaker 1: any tattoos or piercings other than in her ears, so
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Speaker 1: that wouldn't help. But you know what about the fact
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Speaker 1: that to doctor Tim Gallagher, for years, in decades, the
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Speaker 1: Red Cross and others have relied on field tests, immediate
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Speaker 1: field tests to determine identity. What is that The immediate
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Speaker 1: field test to identify identity often relies on what we
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Speaker 1: were talking about before, pre injuries. That could be the
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Speaker 1: repair of an injury. Sometimes they will put a metal
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Speaker 1: plate in the leg to fix it, and that metal
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Speaker 1: plate will have a serial number on it. We could
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Speaker 1: remove the plate, find the serial number, look that serial
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Speaker 1: number up and it'll tell us the doctor, the patient
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Speaker 1: and when it was placed inside that leg, and then
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Speaker 1: we could identify the person that way. The field identification
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Speaker 1: could be something as simple as stature. You know, is
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Speaker 1: this a male, is it a female? Is it an
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Speaker 1: old person? Is it a younger person? You know, the
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Speaker 1: Red Crust does do excellent work, but there they go
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Speaker 1: by an anatomical type of identification process, where the scientific
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Speaker 1: community now embraces a molecular or radiologic type of modality.
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Speaker 1: You know, somebody, what do you mean by the two
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Speaker 1: modalities to identify? You said radiologic in one other? Right,
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Speaker 1: So a DNA type of identity of molecular radiologic is
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Speaker 1: an X rays. That where you're saying DNA, I hear you.
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Speaker 1: So you got X rays, You got DNA, you have
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Speaker 1: on tattoos, you have clothing, you have teeth work, whether
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Speaker 1: somebody had a cavity in the fifth grade, whether they
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Speaker 1: were bracest orthodontia, all of that can help identify someone
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Speaker 1: if you don't have DNA already. We know for a
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Speaker 1: fact Naomi Erian her remains have been found at what
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Speaker 1: has been described as a quote shallow grave. You know
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Speaker 1: that conjures up all sorts of images. Karen L. Smith
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Speaker 1: is joining me everyone at barebones forensic dot com. Karen
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Speaker 1: a forensic X for Karen. When I hear shallow grave,
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Speaker 1: in my experience, that's two or three feet deep, Max, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: what does it mean to you? That's exactly right, one
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Speaker 1: foot to three feet Nancy, you know that tells me
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Speaker 1: so much about this crime. That implements were purchased beforehand,
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Speaker 1: There was premeditation, They had shovel. Okay, look, you know
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Speaker 1: you're the forensic expert. You've got explained to everybody. Why
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Speaker 1: you're saying that. I get you explain why? Well, you
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Speaker 1: know you have one or more perpetrators. If you have
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Speaker 1: a shallow grave, they're not going to get down on
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Speaker 1: their knees and dig it with their hands. They have
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Speaker 1: implements with them, whether it's a shovel or a rake
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Speaker 1: or a pickaxe or whatever it is. They have that
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Speaker 1: with them, which tells me it's almost like a murder kit.
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Speaker 1: This was pre planned, This was premeditated. They have to
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Speaker 1: dig that grave with something and then you know, put
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Speaker 1: a body in it. So that tells me everything about premeditation. Nancy,
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Speaker 1: Karen Smith, that is an excellent point to dig even
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Speaker 1: a shallow grave, an implement is needed. However, in my mind,
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Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, this team girl could have been murdered and
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Speaker 1: then get the implement. First thing, they need to go
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Speaker 1: to all the walmarts, all the lows home depots feeding seeds.
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Speaker 1: It's a rural area, there could be one nearby. That's
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Speaker 1: an obvious choice to find out if anyone came in
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Speaker 1: and bought a shovel or anything they could use to
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Speaker 1: dig this hole. Right, I mean this guy might I'd
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Speaker 1: be driving around in his car with a shovel in
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Speaker 1: the back. That's exactly right. And thankfully, that's something you
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Speaker 1: and I and know those have been using for years
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Speaker 1: is looking at surveillance video, especially in a rural area
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Speaker 1: where you don't have a hundred stores to look at,
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Speaker 1: you have less, and especially when you haven't. I love
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Speaker 1: the murder kit. That's a great sound bite for what
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Speaker 1: you would need, sadly to dig this kind of a grave.
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Speaker 1: So that's white. And one of the the benefits of
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Speaker 1: doing that nowadays is when I started practicing law, the
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Speaker 1: graininess of the photos almost made it indistinguishable to try
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Speaker 1: to figure out who you can recognize what somebody is buying.
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Speaker 1: But nowadays that you have ways of really seeing what
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Speaker 1: we need to see to try to figure out who
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Speaker 1: might have bought this kit. And I have to say
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Speaker 1: this case really sort of makes us look at something
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Speaker 1: that you would think would be as safe as a
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Speaker 1: Walmart parking lot very differently, Karen L. Smith, There's so
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Speaker 1: much forensic evidence that can be learned gleaned from the site.
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Speaker 1: For instance, I believe he had to have lived either
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Speaker 1: in the Fernly area or the Churchill County area. I mean,
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Speaker 1: why would he go to that location? I mean, think
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Speaker 1: about Scott Peterson. He lived in the Modesto area, but
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Speaker 1: he disposed of Lacy's body at a spot familiar to him,
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Speaker 1: the San Francisco Bay, where he routinely went fishing. What
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Speaker 1: do you make of it and what if anything forensically
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Speaker 1: can't we learn from the side. I agree. You know,
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Speaker 1: you deal with these perpetrators and most often they will
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Speaker 1: stay in an area that is familiar to them. However
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Speaker 1: far away that might extend as far as the grave site. Nancy,
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Speaker 1: this is a desert location. You're dealing with either loose
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Speaker 1: dirt or hard compact dirt and clay. You've got shoeprints,
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Speaker 1: possible tire tracks. You know, sometimes these perps will dispose
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Speaker 1: of something like maybe a cigarette butt or a soda
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Speaker 1: can in the grave site. I found receipts in grave
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Speaker 1: sites that were disposed of with the body, and all
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Speaker 1: of those clues can lead back to the person who
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Speaker 1: did it. So they're going to have to sift through
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Speaker 1: every single speck of that grave site, which I'm sure
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Speaker 1: they're doing. They use fine sifters, and they go scoop
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Speaker 1: scoop by stoop, bucketful by bucketful, looking for bullet shell casing,
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Speaker 1: looking for small bones, looking for clothing items and jewelry,
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Speaker 1: and any other evidence that might have been the both
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Speaker 1: of In the last days, a judge has ruled prime
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Speaker 1: suspect in the murder of teen girl Naomi Erion, found raped,
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Speaker 1: shot and buried in a shallow grave in the desert
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Speaker 1: in Nevada. Prime suspect has been ruled competent to stand trial.
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Speaker 1: Now this is just a pit stop on his way
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Speaker 1: straight to h a double l I'll have a trial first, though,
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Speaker 1: but I mean with DNA evidence from the rape man.
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Speaker 1: Sorry to fight that. This murder rock the small town
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Speaker 1: of Fernley it's about thirty miles east of Reno. After
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Speaker 1: months of delay kicking rocks while forty two year old
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Speaker 1: Troy Driver claims he's incompetent, we now have a ruling
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Speaker 1: Troy Driver will be tried for murder. The whole case
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Speaker 1: is horrible. It's a tragedy. Right now, what can we do?
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Speaker 1: We can seek justice. Take a listen now to our
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Speaker 1: friend Brian Inton Naomi. She is an eighteen year old woman.
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Speaker 1: She is the daughter of a US diplomat. She lived
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Speaker 1: all over the world and recently moved here to Nevada
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Speaker 1: to live with her older brother because she wanted a
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Speaker 1: more normal life. She was used to living on these
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Speaker 1: American diplomatic compounds. She wanted to go to college, she
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Speaker 1: wanted to buy a car, she wanted to have a boyfriend.
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Speaker 1: And she was in the Walmart parking lot back on
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Speaker 1: March twelfth when she was kidnapped. This young girl had
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Speaker 1: been very, very sheltered. According to what her mother, or Diana,
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Speaker 1: told us, they had lived all over the world, but
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Speaker 1: always within a very tightly knit diplomatic community, going to
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Speaker 1: certain schools to American school rules. She finally wanted to
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Speaker 1: live with her brother in America and be like quote
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Speaker 1: every other American teen. Guys, this is a girl that
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Speaker 1: has just graduated from high school. Just graduated from high school.
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Speaker 1: She was working a job at a Panasonic, a Panasonic
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Speaker 1: center where she actually would put on what looks like
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Speaker 1: a hazmat suit and put together build batteries for Panasonic.
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Speaker 1: She wanted the I guess, stereotypical life of an American teen,
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Speaker 1: and this is what happened. At five o'clock in the morning,
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Speaker 1: she has managed to get herself to a Walmart parking lot,
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Speaker 1: waiting on a shuttle bus to go to Panasonic. She's
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Speaker 1: sitting in her car, it's dark outside, She's playing on
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Speaker 1: Snapchat or Facebook or Insta and doesn't notice a man
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Speaker 1: stalking her. No one would have known had it not
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Speaker 1: been for the Walmart parking lot surveillance video. Listen to
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Speaker 1: our forensic ko Elo. Walmart had surveillance video and shared
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Speaker 1: it with Casey. Here's a snapshot of that video showing
25:23
Speaker 1: the suspect. Casey says, the video shows this man getting
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Speaker 1: into Naomi's car and driving off with her in the
25:30
Speaker 1: passenger seat. Once we found the footage, which appears to
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Speaker 1: be nondescript mail an average high average build, completely covered
25:43
Speaker 1: up with a mask in the hood. That Walmart surveillance
25:46
Speaker 1: a video was very very chilling to Alexis Tourez Chuck,
25:51
Speaker 1: please describe it. So it's a Blackmart video. You can
25:55
Speaker 1: see her, so you can see him, and he's kind
25:58
Speaker 1: of pacing around the Walmart parking lot. It's five thirty
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Speaker 1: in the morning, remember that, So it's not late yet.
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Speaker 1: There are not a lot of people there. Actually, I'm
26:06
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up, Alexis, because the Walmart video
26:11
Speaker 1: shows that it's dark outside. And what almost broke my
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Speaker 1: heart as we learned that this little girl just graduated
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Speaker 1: from high school, but go and try to park under
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Speaker 1: a lance a street light in the Walmart parking a lot.
26:25
Speaker 1: We've all seen them, because she thought it would be safer.
26:29
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut three. Our frenzy khouleft
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Speaker 1: not shared according to the family in a local TV interview,
26:37
Speaker 1: is video of him forcing his way into her car.
26:41
Speaker 1: This person did say or do something to Naomi to
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Speaker 1: make her move over from the driver's side to the
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Speaker 1: passenger's side. This wasn't chance. This was something that he
26:53
Speaker 1: was thinking about and he was very suspicious looking. Grion's
26:57
Speaker 1: four door sedan was later found in this industrial area,
27:01
Speaker 1: where it was processed and from where authorities believed the
27:04
Speaker 1: suspect may have driven away in this dark Chevy pickup.
27:08
Speaker 1: Two days after Naomi disappears, her car is found. Take
27:12
Speaker 1: a listen to our cut seven kolo. Two days after
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Speaker 1: Naomi disappeared, Lion County deputies found her car in the
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Speaker 1: industrial park and friendly. The Sheriff's office says evidence found
27:25
Speaker 1: in the car indicates criminal activity. Her family assumes that
27:30
Speaker 1: because of what Naomi is not doing. So she's eighteen,
27:33
Speaker 1: she's always on social media constantly, and she has not
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Speaker 1: been on social media since Saturday morning. To doctor Debbie Jaffee,
27:41
Speaker 1: LAS psychologists joining us from Columbia University, Doctor Debbie, We've
27:46
Speaker 1: talked many times about routine evidence, which is not to
27:51
Speaker 1: say typical, It is evidence of routine behavioral evidence. The
27:55
Speaker 1: fact that this girl went dark on social media with
27:59
Speaker 1: significant to her mother and rightly so. Yeah, if there
28:03
Speaker 1: is something a person engages in regularly, enjoys it and
28:09
Speaker 1: then stops without any warning or indication, why Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: mother was put on in hearing her alarm bells go off.
28:18
Speaker 1: Lovely you know, Winny passion. We have analyzed criminal behavior
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Speaker 1: thousands countless times. What do you make of the purpose behavior?
28:29
Speaker 1: As he stood and stared at her car and her
28:33
Speaker 1: sitting there in the dark under the parking lot light,
28:38
Speaker 1: just tapping away on snapchat? What do you make of that?
28:42
Speaker 1: Had he seen her before? Why was he in the
28:44
Speaker 1: parking lot at five o'clock in the morning. You know,
28:46
Speaker 1: in a word, I think it goes to premeditation. What
28:49
Speaker 1: it shows is him thinking, strategizing, planning, plotting, looking at
28:54
Speaker 1: that vulnerability that people have when they're tied to their phones,
28:58
Speaker 1: whether they're on social media or making a call. He
29:01
Speaker 1: took advantage of that level of distraction to make his move.
29:05
Speaker 1: So it really looks like it wasn't random. He saw
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Speaker 1: a vulnerable victim and he went in for the kill.
29:11
Speaker 1: It may have been dark outside, but thankfully there was
29:14
Speaker 1: at least enough light that we can argue he knew
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Speaker 1: what he was looking at, knew what he was doing,
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Speaker 1: and probably knew what he planned to do. Karen Smith,
29:21
Speaker 1: you're the forensics expert. Way in this is what I'm hearing, Nancy.
29:25
Speaker 1: You have a primary crime scene in her car. That
29:28
Speaker 1: is the primary crime scene. They say they found evidence
29:31
Speaker 1: of a struggle or evidence of something horrible that happened
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Speaker 1: in the car that tells me it's blood. Then you
29:36
Speaker 1: have the car found at this paint manufacturing company. Okay,
29:40
Speaker 1: whoa wait, right, you're right hold on. They absolutely said
29:45
Speaker 1: at the beginning, there's evans in the car that convinces
29:49
Speaker 1: us this is of a criminal nature. French, she didn't
29:52
Speaker 1: just meet a guy and take off, That's right. Your
29:54
Speaker 1: assumption is that it's blood, Well, it would have to
29:57
Speaker 1: be something visible or something that could be detected. Did
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Speaker 1: with luminole or how about if her car was simply
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Speaker 1: in disarrayting Okay, so that's a good possibility had been
30:05
Speaker 1: a struggle. Absolutely, let's go there. What I was gonna
30:09
Speaker 1: say was you have a secondary crime scene in this
30:11
Speaker 1: pickup truck. Was that parked there strategically so that this
30:15
Speaker 1: perpetrator could use that to haul her body fifty six
30:19
Speaker 1: miles to the burial site? This was definitely premeditated. This
30:23
Speaker 1: wasn't something off the cuff, Nancy. Well, another thing is
30:27
Speaker 1: it's been said he walked up from a homeless encampment.
30:30
Speaker 1: But I don't think this guy was homeless. And I'll
30:33
Speaker 1: tell you why, because he had access to another vehicle
30:37
Speaker 1: after he ditches her car at an industrial park, which
30:40
Speaker 1: I find significant too. He knew to go to an
30:44
Speaker 1: industrial park or her car would not be noticed for
30:47
Speaker 1: a couple of days, and it wasn't, and he had
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Speaker 1: access to another car. A homeless person does not have
30:52
Speaker 1: access to a pickup truck. I agree one hundred percent.
30:56
Speaker 1: This is not a homeless person. This is somebody who
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Speaker 1: has planned this. And I don't know if he was
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Speaker 1: stalking her, if it was a you know, spur of
31:06
Speaker 1: the moment saying as far as him watching for someone
31:10
Speaker 1: or a young girl period, I don't know what in
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Speaker 1: the world could he have said to her to make
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Speaker 1: her move over. I don't under maybe threatened her with
31:19
Speaker 1: a gun. Absolutely he had some kind of implement, whether
31:22
Speaker 1: it was a gun, a knife, the implication that he
31:25
Speaker 1: had a weapon with him. You know, I don't know
31:28
Speaker 1: how big this man is, but if you know a
31:30
Speaker 1: girl and you have a man threatening you or saying
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Speaker 1: something to you, or displaying a weapon to you, that's
31:37
Speaker 1: where my mind goes. Time stories with Nancy Grace, Even
31:59
Speaker 1: in death, Naomi Erion will always be one person's little
32:08
Speaker 1: sister talking about Tammy Cartwright, Naomi's sister who has waited
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Speaker 1: and waited and waited for justice ever since her sister,
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Speaker 1: Naomi was found murdered in a shallow grave in the
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Speaker 1: Nevada desert. No more happy conversations on the phone, no
32:30
Speaker 1: more trips to them all, no more dinners together around
32:33
Speaker 1: the supper table. Naomi's would be nineteenth birthday came and
32:41
Speaker 1: passed in July. She will forever be remembered as eighteen. Meanwhile,
32:49
Speaker 1: forty two year old Troy Driver is now going to
32:55
Speaker 1: trial accused of sex assault and murder after Naomi's body
33:00
Speaker 1: found in that shallow grave in Churchill County. After a
33:08
Speaker 1: let me just say battle over incompetency, a judge has
33:15
Speaker 1: ruled Driver will go to trial regarding the death of Naomi.
33:21
Speaker 1: Erion this as Naomi's family shares photos with us of
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Speaker 1: a desert memorial. Can you even imagine instead of planning
33:38
Speaker 1: your daughter's graduation or Christmas presence under the tree, Naomi's
33:45
Speaker 1: family is sharing new photos on social media of the
33:49
Speaker 1: area where her body was found, where a memorial now stands.
33:56
Speaker 1: They say, quote, today we went where Naomi was found
34:02
Speaker 1: deep and this horrible desert. They had to drive sixty
34:10
Speaker 1: five miles on a normal road, then twenty five more
34:14
Speaker 1: miles deeper into the desert to find the location. That
34:19
Speaker 1: shallow grave site is there near Cole Canyon Road, northeast
34:25
Speaker 1: of Fallon in Churchill County. Nam's dad sharing a photo
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Speaker 1: of a cross with Naomi's name on it on a
34:34
Speaker 1: tree in the Walmart parking lot where she was kidnapped.
34:38
Speaker 1: Have you ever been driving down the interstate and you
34:40
Speaker 1: see where somebody's put across and there's flowers on it
34:44
Speaker 1: where someone lost their life in a traffic accident. You
34:47
Speaker 1: can presume. Can you imagine that's what these parents are
34:51
Speaker 1: left with their teen girl dead, according to prosecutors, raped,
34:57
Speaker 1: shot and buried by Troy Driver. Take a listen to
35:02
Speaker 1: our cut twenty six our friends at Inside Edition. Forty
35:05
Speaker 1: one year old Troy Driver was arrested and charged with
35:08
Speaker 1: kidnapping by the Lion County Sheriff's Office. Police released video
35:13
Speaker 1: of the suspect they believe got in her car and
35:16
Speaker 1: left the morning of March twelfth. They also released images
35:20
Speaker 1: of the vehicle they believe he was driving. Authorities say
35:24
Speaker 1: they have also located the pickup truck they believe was
35:27
Speaker 1: leaving the scene where Naomi's car was later found. Forty
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Speaker 1: one year old con that's right, he's a felon Troy
35:36
Speaker 1: driver to Lance video picked him up leaving with her
35:42
Speaker 1: from that industrial park. Does it show him struggling with her?
35:47
Speaker 1: Does it show him with a gun to her back?
35:50
Speaker 1: How did he get her from her car into a truck?
35:56
Speaker 1: Was she already dead? How have they linked him Troy
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Speaker 1: driver too her? Is it because of his car too?
36:07
Speaker 1: Alexis Tsche joining us from crime online dot Com. What
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Speaker 1: do we know about forty one year old Troy driver?
36:15
Speaker 1: So what we know is he has just finished serving
36:19
Speaker 1: a fifteen year sentence for murder that he committed when
36:23
Speaker 1: he was seventeen years old. So he has had a
36:27
Speaker 1: lifetime of crime. In fact, so when he was seventeen
36:30
Speaker 1: years old, he was sentenced for a murder of a
36:34
Speaker 1: mass dealer, and he also pleaded guilty to three charges
36:38
Speaker 1: a second degree robbery of a Circle Kay convenience store
36:42
Speaker 1: and a Chevron service station, as well as breaking into
36:45
Speaker 1: a hardware store. So this location where he committed this
36:48
Speaker 1: time where he kidnapped Naomi and the murder her is
36:50
Speaker 1: very well known to him because this is where he
36:52
Speaker 1: started off his life of crime, so he knows that
36:55
Speaker 1: these are vulnerable areas. Are you talking about the Walmart
36:58
Speaker 1: parking lot near Fearnley or are you talking about Churchill
37:02
Speaker 1: County the Walmart parking lot. I'm also curious where he
37:05
Speaker 1: did his time. I wonder if that was near where
37:09
Speaker 1: her body was found. I mean, I'm trying to get
37:12
Speaker 1: it evidence, That's what I'm talking about it. Did he
37:15
Speaker 1: kill her in Churchill County? Did he kill her before
37:18
Speaker 1: she was even taken out of her car? Did he
37:21
Speaker 1: take her somewhere and torture or rape her? Is there
37:25
Speaker 1: evidence there? I'm looking at a conviction, the possibility of
37:30
Speaker 1: convicting this guy isn't him? How do we know it's him?
37:35
Speaker 1: Regarding his criminal history, take a listen to our friend
37:39
Speaker 1: Paul Nelson katv in two. He served time in prison
37:42
Speaker 1: for his role in nineteen ninety seven murder in Willits, California.
37:46
Speaker 1: Driver was just seventeen at the time. According to old articles,
37:49
Speaker 1: he pleaded guilty to accessory to murder after the fact
37:52
Speaker 1: and a string of robberies. A judge sentenced him to
37:55
Speaker 1: fifteen years in prison. But he may have only he
37:57
Speaker 1: may have been released after or after twelve years. The
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Speaker 1: suspect of Naomi Erion's kidnapping is in the Lyon County Jail.
38:04
Speaker 1: According to the Yucaia Daily Journal, Troy Driver served time
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Speaker 1: in prison for helping cover up a murder in nineteen
38:10
Speaker 1: ninety seven. It says he helped put the body of
38:12
Speaker 1: an alleged drug dealer in a car trunk, then dumped
38:15
Speaker 1: him in the woods. It is upsetting to me that
38:17
Speaker 1: there's people out here in the general public that have
38:22
Speaker 1: these capabilities, with this kind of past. The forty one
38:24
Speaker 1: year old was arrested Friday in Fallon and as Chevy
38:27
Speaker 1: pickup was impounded for evidence. Valley doesn't expect him to
38:30
Speaker 1: tell detectives where Erion is. I would just try to
38:34
Speaker 1: relate to him as someone that also has family and
38:38
Speaker 1: asked him to put himself in our shoes. Well, apparently
38:41
Speaker 1: that didn't work. This guy's been on the pen before.
38:45
Speaker 1: He is not going to tell where the body is. However,
38:48
Speaker 1: a tipster calls in and the remains of this teen
38:52
Speaker 1: girl just out of high school have been found. Now
38:55
Speaker 1: I just learned a lot. I want to go to
38:59
Speaker 1: Karen Smith. We know he's already put one victim in
39:03
Speaker 1: his last go around, after a string of robberies and
39:06
Speaker 1: a murder. Being involved in a murder, he puts the
39:10
Speaker 1: victim in a car trunk and then dumps the body
39:14
Speaker 1: in the woods. You know what, That's what I call
39:17
Speaker 1: a similar transaction, transporting a homicide victim in a vehicle
39:24
Speaker 1: and then dumping the body like it's trash out of
39:27
Speaker 1: some remote location. Same thing here, right, And he escalated
39:32
Speaker 1: because now it was a shallow grave, Nancy, it wasn't
39:35
Speaker 1: just dumping it in the woods. Now he's trying to
39:37
Speaker 1: cover up his crime. This is not foreign to him.
39:40
Speaker 1: He's a monster. You know. The forensics, as far as
39:43
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, we have the linkage principle, the victim, the
39:47
Speaker 1: crime scene, to the suspect, and you link those three things.
39:51
Speaker 1: Touch DNA blood stains his truck. No to doctor Debbie Joffe, Ella, psychologist, professor,
39:58
Speaker 1: Columbia University and author, Doctor Debbie, you'd think after a
40:04
Speaker 1: guy has done time hard jail time, being implicated in
40:09
Speaker 1: a murder and a string of robberies, that he would
40:13
Speaker 1: do anything not to go back to jail. Right. Sounds
40:18
Speaker 1: highly likely? Yep, Nancy, Okay, I was expecting a little
40:22
Speaker 1: bit more from you other than yep, something like the
40:25
Speaker 1: thinking that goes into the mind of a career criminal.
40:28
Speaker 1: How they're not worried about going back to jail. Their
40:31
Speaker 1: idea of my plan not going back to jail is
40:34
Speaker 1: don't get caught, instead of I'm not going to break
40:37
Speaker 1: the law. Okay, two right, So why wouldn't the plan
40:43
Speaker 1: be I'm going to get a job, I'm not going
40:46
Speaker 1: to go back to jail, so help me God in
40:49
Speaker 1: Heaven instead of Wow, when I kidnapped this girl and
40:53
Speaker 1: rapier murder her, how can I not get caught and
40:56
Speaker 1: go back to jail? Why? Apparently, Well, one possibility would
41:02
Speaker 1: be the urge to do what he did is more
41:07
Speaker 1: dominant than any tendency to think things through regarding avoiding this,
41:13
Speaker 1: that or the other. Obviously, the thrill or the potential
41:20
Speaker 1: satisfaction he thought he would feel blinded him from thinking
41:28
Speaker 1: things through about being caught, not caught, avoiding not avoiding.
41:34
Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfalls, and don't you worry, driver,
41:39
Speaker 1: We'll be on the front row of that murder trial.
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Speaker 1: To those of you listening, goodbye, friend,