Latest / The Daily Ripples Podcast / May 3 – Speaking It Out Loud
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- 0:02Welcome back once again to the Daily Ripples podcast.
- 0:05Today is May the 3rd, and we're glad to have everybody back with us today.
- 0:09On the pod today with me is Steffani and Memphis again, and we're going to kick it off with
- 0:16our Daily Ripple for the day.
- 0:17And Steffani, if you would take it away for us.
- 0:20Sure.
- 0:21May the 3rd, Daily Ripple, speaking it out loud.
- 0:24The Stone.
- 0:25Honesty in private is a start, but healing often requires honesty in the presence of another.
- 0:32What stays unspoken tends to stay unchanged.
- 0:36Ripple 1, practical.
- 0:38Today I will take a step towards real openness.
- 0:41Instead of keeping everything internal, I will share honestly with someone that I trust.
- 0:46Speaking truth out loud breaks isolation and turns intention into action.
- 0:52Ripple 2, spiritual.
- 0:54As I bring my life into the open before the Father and others, the Holy Spirit deepens the work of transformation, following Christ who lived in truth without hiding.
- 1:04I learned that freedom grows where honesty is practiced in community.
- 1:10So for me, for this ripple for today, I think about working with another alcoholic.
- 1:17I know in my own experience, doing the step four, writing it down, wasn't enough.
- 1:23And I was very scared about doing a step five.
- 1:26But my sponsor shared some of her step five when I did mine.
- 1:33And it brought a level playing field for me to be okay with voicing my past grievances, sins, inventory out loud.
- 1:50So I try with my sponsees when we do a step five, I tell them, hey, I'm doing a step four and a step five with you.
- 2:01I'm going to do this with you, and I will be an example for you.
- 2:05So that way it takes the sting and the fear out of it, makes it not so scary, if you will.
- 2:15And for me, I find that sponsees are more readily available to speak those truths, even when it's hard or if it hurts.
- 2:25So how do you encourage people that you work with to actually sit down and get started?
- 2:32I mean, do you give them a deadline?
- 2:34Do you try, you know, what other tools in the toolkit do you have to actually get people to do it?
- 2:38Because that's one of the biggest things that I've struggled with with sponsees, is they get to the point of they're between step three and step four.
- 2:45You know, they've made that decision, you know, and done the third step prayer that the big book outlines, saying, yes, I'm ready to turn my will and my life over to the care of God.
- 2:54And again, you know, in church, whether people know it or not, especially if they're United Methodist, they're praying that every week if they're praying the Lord's Prayer, saying, thy will be done.
- 3:03They just don't quite know it yet.
- 3:04But, you know, once people get to that third step and they're launching into the fourth step, how do you actually encourage them or get them to start the work?
- 3:12Very good question.
- 3:14I take a practical solution to this.
- 3:18I have a printout that I give each sponsee, and it breaks it down into simple terms, follows along in the book on how to do a step five.
- 3:29And typically, I have a pre-conversation with them about the things they think are going to be hard.
- 3:35Is it going to be the fear inventory?
- 3:37Is it going to be a resentment list?
- 3:41What's the easiest thing to start with?
- 3:46And it's different for every sponsor, but I pick the easiest one just to get them started.
- 3:54Give them a week to start writing it down.
- 3:57If they're stuck in the middle of it, we talk about it.
- 4:00I may share examples of my own life, of things that I've written down in my step four, that will get them going.
- 4:09And we'll go over that list first.
- 4:12So that way they have an understanding of what it's going to be like to do that work with me.
- 4:18And understanding that they can trust me as they do it.
- 4:21And so when we do get to the hard stuff, we've already had those conversations.
- 4:27And there is a bit of trust built there.
- 4:29Memphis, what about you?
- 4:30What thoughts do you have about this or anything else in our ripple for today?
- 4:34I go back to, and I think I briefly touched on this in one of the other episodes, but initially, you know, I could openly speak with another alcoholic or my sponsor at the time.
- 4:48There was a level of, I was, I was almost proud of some of the bad things of that.
- 4:54It was, you know, because I had gained something from them.
- 4:59So, you know, when I read this specifically where it says,
- 5:04honesty in private is a start, but healing often requires honesty in the presence of another.
- 5:11My honesty had to start in private.
- 5:15And it had to develop with being able to be honest with myself.
- 5:23And that was one of my challenges.
- 5:26I was avoiding the God.
- 5:29I was told that I didn't have to have a God when I came into AA, that we could choose whatever.
- 5:36And I made a mockery of that as I began my journey of sobriety.
- 5:42So I didn't have to be honest with it because I didn't want to address it.
- 5:47And obviously that was driven by fear.
- 5:49Scared.
- 5:52Scared to have to actually have to be accountable.
- 5:55But as I grew in the program and I did share with others, you know, that the truth started.
- 6:06I started to hear it in a different way as my spiritual journey started.
- 6:11Even though there wasn't much, I was at least willing at the time.
- 6:15And as my willingness increased, my honesty started creeping into, not just with others, but into my heart and into my mind.
- 6:25And that's when I started to have honest conversations with the God of understanding today.
- 6:33And so that's where I truly started to heal.
- 6:37Well, and I think that's where the seeds of faith were taking root, you know, in your life.
- 6:42I mean, you know, in Scripture, you know, Jesus told his disciples that all it takes is a mustard seed of faith and you can do miracles with it.
- 6:48And, you know, in what you just shared, that's just the progression of the fear slowly being replaced, you know, by the faith, you know, choosing.
- 6:57And at first it starts in faith in a process, right?
- 7:00Faith in somebody that you trust telling you that I did this and it worked and you believe them, you know, and it starts that faith.
- 7:06And the, you know, but as you take those actions, that is where, you know, the spiritual ripple of the stone of truth, you know, starts to take, you know, form in our lives, you know, because God does work, you know, within us whenever we're willing and we show just a little bit of that sign of faith.
- 7:25And that's definitely very much, you know, a scriptural connection there.
- 7:31Don't you think, too, Michael, that the steps of AA and any other recovery program, they're put in place in a certain order for a reason.
- 7:43Step number three means that you have a God of your understanding that you're relying upon.
- 7:51I insist on sponsees having a relationship with their God and having a practice that they do that they can rely on.
- 8:00Because step four, you have to do it with God.
- 8:04Step five, you have to do it with God.
- 8:06You need the help.
- 8:07And there are those in the rooms, you know, that talk about, because there are people that come in, obviously, you know, just kind of like, you know, Memphis described, you know, a little bit earlier about, you know, they come in and they don't really have a relationship or they don't have a higher power that they name or claim.
- 8:21You know, they don't have a relationship with God or anything like that, and they're still
- 8:25able to progress through those steps and, you know, and recover.
- 8:30You know, some people that have gone all the way through the steps and they still remain,
- 8:33you know, atheists at the end of it, and they use as their higher power the others in the
- 8:38room or what have you.
- 8:39Now, I personally don't think that I could have done that, and it had been successful
- 8:43for me, even though in my past at one time, you know, I claimed, you know, to be atheist or what
- 8:51have you. But it's that courage to speak these things, as it talks about speaking it out loud,
- 8:59to my higher power and to another, you know, drunk. For me, where the power that comes into
- 9:08play is because if I say something out loud and I admit a fault or failing of my own, I immediately
- 9:15know that I can't stay there because that becomes almost, and I'm probably going to use the wrong
- 9:22words, but it almost becomes a good use of shame a little bit, right? Like when I say to, you know,
- 9:29one of you that I've done X, Y, and Z, well, the fact that I've now vocalized it and admitted it and
- 9:35somebody knows that about me means that me as a human being, I'm going to try to, you know,
- 9:40protect my life and not do it again, because I don't want to have to admit that again to somebody
- 9:45else. So there's a certain power in that admission too, because once I've said it and I've done it,
- 9:50that I've done it before, I don't want to do it again. Right? Memphis, have you experienced that?
- 9:56Yes. You know, it came in time, obviously. You know, once I did, you know, I was with the God of
- 10:03understanding um those those conversations that came out so easy um before you know in those rooms
- 10:12um they came up as almost like entertaining um oh god memories and you know you could tell when i
- 10:20was sharing i didn't share it the same way i wasn't it wasn't enthusiastic it wasn't a performance
- 10:27there was a level of shame
- 10:30that because
- 10:31because I had gotten
- 10:33started to get honest with myself and with
- 10:34the God of my understanding
- 10:37I could
- 10:38I did it was it was a beneficial shame
- 10:41and
- 10:42so I approached
- 10:44the conversation with
- 10:46people differently and it was
- 10:48much more of a lesson of
- 10:51what not to do
- 10:55and it
- 10:57banged in my mind that I made better than it was.
- 11:02So, yeah, I don't know.
- 11:06Until today, I would have called it shame.
- 11:08But I think that's why when I share today, it comes out differently.
- 11:13Yeah, and that's why I kind of struggled to put the label shame on it as well.
- 11:19And I don't have a good word for it, but it's that sense of, you know,
- 11:23by vocalizing this, I automatically don't want to do it again, right?
- 11:28And another way of putting it, like in what you just said,
- 11:30is that it's almost like talking about the past becomes less a performance
- 11:35and more of a parable.
- 11:37You know, it's less about entertainment and more about learning from it,
- 11:42you know, and moving on and progressing.
- 11:44And today it's because then I know that that's not the way that God would want me to do it.
- 11:49It says in Proverbs 28 and 13 that whoever conceals their sins does not prosper, but the one who confesses and renounces them finds mercy.
- 11:59And so I think that's what we've been talking all about and around is that once we are admitting these things in the fifth step, to a certain extent, we're renouncing that past.
- 12:08We're saying this is not who I want to be anymore.
- 12:12You know, I want to be somebody else, you know, from this point forward.
- 12:15And in the rooms of recovery, that's what everybody helps each other to do.
- 12:19And hopefully that's what people are finding, you know, in their faith communities as well.
- 12:23They're finding assistance in renouncing those things of the past and moving forward and allowing God to grow, you know, more honesty and peace within them.
- 12:34Steffani, what else do you have for us today?
- 12:36I have the prayer.
- 12:37Are we ready for that?
- 12:38You do have the prayer, but I'm a little bit sad that you don't have any more Corey-style big book, you know, page numbers and references.
- 12:47You know, Corey would have given us about 10 of them by now.
- 12:50I actually do have one.
- 12:52It is on page 72, chapter 6.
- 12:56It is step 5.
- 12:57We have admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
- 13:03That's right.
- 13:03And that means that we do not hide things when we're doing that.
- 13:08It says the exact nature of our wrongs.
- 13:11It doesn't say that we just hint around about them at all.
- 13:15Well, that's a good place for us to stop for today.
- 13:17Again, thanks, Steffani and Memphis, for being there.
- 13:19And Steffani, if you would close us out with a prayer.
- 13:21Father, give me courage to speak honestly and not hide.
- 13:26Through your Spirit, use truth and trusted relationships to bring healing and lasting change in my life.
- 13:31Amen.