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Episode 289: The Last Man (SG-A 4.20) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode two hundred and eighty nine talking
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  Speaker 1: some stargate at Atlantis, Mitch and Maddie back in our
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  Speaker 1: ancestral homel.
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  Speaker 2: Better than ancestral, I guess oh yeah. Also, well, depending
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  Speaker 2: on what part of the hub you're on, I.
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  Speaker 1: Guess yeah, mainly because we're it's not just the two
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  Speaker 1: of us, so we've got you know, we can't make
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  Speaker 1: someone feel like a third will craze back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just stayed here the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: That's all that smell is. Yeah, that's his musky.
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  Speaker 1: Have they been feeding you well, I just get scraps out, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, only the best will do.
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  Speaker 1: We're here, guys. It is the season finale of season
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  Speaker 1: four of s g WAT.
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  Speaker 2: The whole I just realized something.
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  Speaker 1: What did you not do?
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  Speaker 2: No, what you didn't do?
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  Speaker 1: This is how long have you got?
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  Speaker 3: Let Well, last last week's episode would have been the
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  Speaker 3: penultimate episode of.
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  Speaker 1: The Idiot, Idiot, Idiot Idiot.
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  Speaker 3: Of the penultimate season Atlantis. But at least this is
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  Speaker 3: the final episode of the penultimate season, so at least
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  Speaker 3: you've got that. No, it's not enough, But what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Is that I can still do it for Universe even
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  Speaker 1: though they only have two seasons. Yes, it will still
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  Speaker 1: be the penultimate season. Yes, season one is the penultimate season.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, it's like, I'll take it. It's it's it's weak,
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  Speaker 1: it's soft, and I'll take it. Okay, good, all right,
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  Speaker 1: that's what she said. All right, the last man, I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you what it is the first time. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what could that? I don't know what what could that
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  Speaker 1: possibly mean? I don't know what that means, and especially
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  Speaker 1: with what we worked off with the Kindred And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: where could anyway? We'll get it, we'll get into it.
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  Speaker 1: And thank god I didn't look at the floppy inside
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  Speaker 1: the physical media because there's a picture of old man Rodney,
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  Speaker 1: and that would have that would have had me thinking
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  Speaker 1: it was going to go off in a completely different direction.
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  Speaker 1: But let's get into the old synopsis. I keep going
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  Speaker 1: to press record as I go to hit the snopsis,
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  Speaker 1: and that will cancel the recording.
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  Speaker 4: Rodney, he was the last man on Atlantis. Oh, I
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  Speaker 4: had to repopulate the whole galaxy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was about the writers where they're like,
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  Speaker 3: let's let's write all the women out of this show.
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  Speaker 1: Unable to locate Taylor, Shepherd heads back to Atlantis part
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  Speaker 1: of the synopsis that is longer than that part of
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  Speaker 1: the story, only to discover that the city is suddenly
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  Speaker 1: missing something. It's in Women Ladies. It is written by
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  Speaker 1: Joe and Paul and directed by Mudin.
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  Speaker 2: Would m yep, major would anyway?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that just happens to be how I
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  Speaker 1: feel about it. What do you think do? What Jack
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  Speaker 1: was doing.
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  Speaker 2: Feels like Brendan's here, yeah about it? What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Ah? Just sipping a nice, icy cold can of Coca Cola.
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  Speaker 1: Good people if they want to sponsor the show. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: this was like, we're going to be heading into our
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  Speaker 1: our season rank on the next episode. And I'm worried
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  Speaker 1: about the recency bias of this just because I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That you'll actually remember it.
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  Speaker 1: Well that that's a that's a big help.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Mitch, tell me what happened in outcast? Was that
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  Speaker 2: this season?
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  Speaker 1: Joking?
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  Speaker 2: Tell me what happened in Reunion?
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  Speaker 1: Please stop.
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  Speaker 2: That? Tell me what happened in the first one?
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  Speaker 1: Or you know I can't do that. No, just that
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  Speaker 1: number like you get Okay, you've been sent to the future.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, okay, you're hereafter. But when they you know,
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  Speaker 1: I have forty eight I'm like forty eight years? Holy shit,
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  Speaker 1: make a thousand? Like, what what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't it early? What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: It was only ten thousand years ago that the Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: is like Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: He's been sent forward nearly five times longer than they
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  Speaker 1: were missing. What the I mean the batteries and the
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  Speaker 1: light still work in the joint? So how good technology?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: What do they say?
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  Speaker 2: A Mark twelve neckward a generator?
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  Speaker 1: What are we dealing with? Is it straight up Mark one?
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  Speaker 1: Do you reckon?
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  Speaker 5: Or?
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  Speaker 2: I thought we were at Mark two or three?
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  Speaker 3: Got to be at this point, But apparently in Mark
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  Speaker 3: twelve is better than three Z three ZPMs. These npms
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  Speaker 3: didn't last ten thousand years, but one Mark twelve generator
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  Speaker 3: that could have generated last forty eight thousand years.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus christ Man like that that blew me away, And
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  Speaker 1: like I know that, you know, for John it was
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  Speaker 1: only like, you know, a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Say his name correctly, John, John, John.
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  Speaker 1: I know that it was only a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Well not you know, second second to him. You know,
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  Speaker 1: but when when when when Ai Rodney pops up againts
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  Speaker 1: us It's only been like five minutes to you, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: my plans worked perfectly, but just the the the overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: load of information that he got, it's it's a bit
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  Speaker 1: you know, like Teal's not quiet but tilkish at the
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  Speaker 1: end of unending where it's like he's lived for all
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  Speaker 1: of those years and then just essentially they were lost
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  Speaker 1: because then he reversed things and went back, but he
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  Speaker 1: has lived that, he's lived through the sadness, and he
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  Speaker 1: was the only one that remembered everything that happened in
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  Speaker 1: that time. And you know, there's other examples that I
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  Speaker 1: could dig into the movies and TV shows and things
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  Speaker 1: like that, but it felt like that even though it
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  Speaker 1: was instantaneous for Shepherd, but just to find out, hey,
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  Speaker 1: at that moment, like why would he think that he
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  Speaker 1: could fix it? You know, AA Rodney is there, but
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  Speaker 1: basically he he's part of the computer at that point,
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  Speaker 1: like he's part he's just part of the joint. So
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  Speaker 1: he's finding it. Oh sorry, I know you just stepped
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  Speaker 1: through the gate. Everything was going to be fine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're only fifty thousand years in the future and can't
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  Speaker 1: get back. Are you hungry to do us to make
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  Speaker 1: you up any just before.
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  Speaker 2: I put you in the ice fridge for another seven
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  Speaker 2: hundred years?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, man, that I don't know, Just like that
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  Speaker 1: length of time is like just so almost inconceivable to me,
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  Speaker 1: and like I know that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like remember we did that thing where it's like
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  Speaker 3: where they say, you know, a million seconds is like
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  Speaker 3: eleven days, eleven days, a billion seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Is like thirty one years. Yeah, it's like you.
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  Speaker 2: Just can't conceive that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I get you know that the Earth
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  Speaker 1: is so many billion years old, the universe is thirteen
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  Speaker 1: point eight or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: They say, this is God's country by you know, it
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  Speaker 3: is two.
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  Speaker 2: Thousand and five years old. There's a whole bunch of Christians.
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  Speaker 1: I know, a couple of a couple of jeebus people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, talking about the thousands of you but like
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  Speaker 1: even to talk about the ice age and things like that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and okay, dinosaurs sixty five million years like
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  Speaker 1: that that that's yeah, a million difference between to me
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  Speaker 1: and a million and two million is like twenty bucks.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: There's a cool bit of trivia where it says because
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  Speaker 3: it's like, you know when most dinosaur things you see,
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  Speaker 3: you see a t rex and a stegosaurus, and it's
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  Speaker 3: like their two existences for like what something like.
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  Speaker 1: We're closer to the stegosaurus to what the stegosaurus was.
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  Speaker 2: What I saw great is.
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  Speaker 3: The stegosaurus is closer to the invention of the typewriter
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  Speaker 3: then it is to a t rex.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, god, I love that so much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And when they talk about, you know, with the
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  Speaker 1: show Ancient Egypt, and they say, like Cleopatra, we think
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  Speaker 1: about her as being part of all that back then,
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  Speaker 1: I again, no, no, no, She's closer to the invention of
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  Speaker 1: the iPhone than what she was the construction of the pyramids.
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  Speaker 1: To her, those were old buildings. She asked their old buildings.
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  Speaker 3: I think where they say technically, time frame wise, it
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  Speaker 3: is possible that a ninja assassinated Abraham Lincoln and then
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  Speaker 3: sent a fax about it. Yeah, all those three things
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  Speaker 3: existed at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like it would have been maybe
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  Speaker 1: a decade ago, but it still took me a long
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  Speaker 1: time in my life to realize when when Einstein was around,
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  Speaker 1: like I keep thinking about him like the other you know,
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  Speaker 1: like your Galileo's and a lots of the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: were around hundreds of years ago, and they're like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: he you know, he was part of you know, he
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  Speaker 1: was he was around when they invented, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, put of Manhattan Prio.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, okay, I thought he died like at
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  Speaker 1: least the eighteen hundreds, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But I remember, actually, Craig when there was when we
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  Speaker 3: went to the same high school in eighth grade. I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember whether it was one of the teachers there
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  Speaker 3: or one of the students in my eighth grade class,
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: and they thought he equals mc squared was an unknown theory,
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  Speaker 3: like no one had figured out what equals mc squared means.
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  Speaker 3: They thought it was a mystery.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to tell me who that was.
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  Speaker 1: I remember.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it was everything I learned from. It
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  Speaker 3: was that red headed bitch, or it was mister Squaldino.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember who.
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  Speaker 3: A nickname he was, like the red redhead, that the student,
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  Speaker 3: she was a student.
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  Speaker 1: He was Maddy's sex head teacher. Just because you dated yours.
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  Speaker 3: Peter Edwards is a lovely He's got a very gentle spear,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, meat spear. Yeah. Remember the shorty girl Melissa that
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  Speaker 2: you remember.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she had a friend, the little sour
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  Speaker 3: faced bitch with red hair called like Jess or Jessica or.
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  Speaker 2: Something, had a happy Chances are I'll run into her
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  Speaker 2: next week.
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  Speaker 3: Last her, she knows what em square means because either
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  Speaker 3: her or mister Squaldino went well, no one knows what
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  Speaker 3: that means.
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  Speaker 2: And I think I need to transfer schools, and and
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: he did. And we're in the same place now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mitch went to a fansy private school, so we're
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  Speaker 3: all in the same place.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, I guess technically it was privates.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Was it all boys?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: No, no co ed?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I thinks to me because I've always had
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  Speaker 1: been at co ed, Like I just hear about the
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: Carmel boys.
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  Speaker 2: I never hear about Karmel girls. That's that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Same story the Comel ladies or they.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: Some of them ladies absolutely no lovely people. Lovely people
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  Speaker 1: make great skill great Have.
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  Speaker 4: Any of them made a name for themselves apart from
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  Speaker 4: only fans.
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  Speaker 1: No, I made one of them. She was in my
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: home group, Ursula Hagar. She's like she does like ten
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  Speaker 1: News nationally every night. Check it out tonight, go into
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: like ten thirty news Ursla and she was like Brendan
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  Speaker 1: and I were really good friends with her in like
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: our home every morning every morning like that. She succeeded
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  Speaker 1: absolutely because Brendan and I dragged each other down like
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: we really you know, we should have looked.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: At like you were there this night before we've done.
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  Speaker 3: I never put one crab in a bucket because it'll
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: get out, but he put two crabs in a bucket.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: They'll never get out because they just keep pulling the
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  Speaker 2: other one down.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we dub We've said it before. We where we
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: sat the NWR no work row excellent.
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  Speaker 3: But wasn't there like a like a like a fancy
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: brain surgeon or something that came out of.
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  Speaker 2: Your class or something like that.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: Jesus telling someone someone was like real successful and smart,
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: and I was like, how did that happen?
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  Speaker 1: At calm on, hey mate, we had some brilliant people.
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  Speaker 1: We had a couple of Rodney's like people that were
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  Speaker 1: smart and knew they were smart. Lovely bloke. Actually this
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  Speaker 1: is out okay, This wasn't why he was so smart.
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  Speaker 1: It just happens. It just it's just funny. He lived
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: across the road from the school. Excellent, like not up
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  Speaker 1: the road, across the road from the school, brilliant stuff,
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  Speaker 1: good old, good on you, Dave. But I've got video
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  Speaker 1: of think because I made the grade to a video and
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: like at the end, we have, you know, the state
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: the same test what do we call the because yes,
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: which is the state wide test everyone every school does
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: in our state. And I filmed people's reactions after doing it.
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  Speaker 1: We went up to Dave and he referred to I
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  Speaker 1: think Greg Greg Wattmore, who was another like genius in
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: our school, and we said, I had you go. He said,
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: I had a little bit of trouble with you know
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  Speaker 1: question you know seventy two, But I spoke to Greg
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  Speaker 1: and he had the same answer, so we think we're right.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and that's where I cut to Black and
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: it was like yes and made him just seem like
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: the most arrogant prick that he was. But it's like
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: two smart people got the same answers, like, well, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now he works on NASA.
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  Speaker 3: That was the thing I had the most about QCs
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: is we never got the answers.
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  Speaker 2: We never knew what we did because.
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  Speaker 3: I got into the biggest argument with my entire friend group.
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  Speaker 3: It was like it was my the line must be
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  Speaker 3: drawn here this far, no further, because one of our.
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  Speaker 2: Questions was one no.
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  Speaker 3: One of the questions was like, oh, you know, you're
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: stuck out in the bush and you've got you're on
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  Speaker 3: a motorbike, like that's the only thing you've got.
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  Speaker 2: Maddie knows what those two things.
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  Speaker 3: Are like exactly exactly, And it's like, oh, you left
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  Speaker 3: your jerry can open and water's gotten into your jerry can.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: You need to fill up your motorbike tank and you
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: need to get as far as you can.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: How do you you know, do that?
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  Speaker 3: And they're like here's your list of tools, blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 3: and all my nerty friends were doing like, oh, I'm
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: gonna do like one of those solar sieves and blah
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  Speaker 3: blah blah. And one of the one of the tools
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  Speaker 3: you had was a cordless drill with a drill bit
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  Speaker 3: and my parents owned a hardware still my entire life.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, well, you just slowly drill into
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: the bottom of it and when it stops being pink,
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: you move away because that's you know, the water is there.
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  Speaker 3: And my entire friend group of sixteen year old people
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  Speaker 3: are like, no, then it caused a spark and start
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  Speaker 3: a fire. And I'm like, not a cordless drill and
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  Speaker 3: not on slow you're not getting any sparks at Nobody
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  Speaker 3: believed me. Nobody believed me, and I was like, y'all, y'all.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: In that moment, you were Will Smith at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of Men in Black, where you just drag the table
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  Speaker 1: over it. That's like the most simplest and obvious answer
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  Speaker 1: is right here. And I was like, no, it needs
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: to be more complicated than that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'll never know. It's it's twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 3: years later and I still don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a bettle jerry can at home.
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  Speaker 3: It cordless drill as well, I still maintained I was
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: born in you two late because when we did the
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: practice QCs test, the written one, well, I don't if
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  Speaker 3: you guys remember you had to, like you open up
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  Speaker 3: this big thing.
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  Speaker 2: It was a big montage of all these pictures and you.
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  Speaker 3: Had to just like write an essay. You just had
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: to just write a thousand words or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 3: When we did the practice one, we got the year
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  Speaker 3: before as one. We opened it all up bang right
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  Speaker 3: in the middle Sarah Michelle Geller as Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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  Speaker 1: The entire grade.
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  Speaker 3: Turned around and looked at me because I was the
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  Speaker 3: Buffy guy.
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  Speaker 1: My my folder, I still have it.
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  Speaker 3: My folder from high school was a collage of Buffy
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  Speaker 3: like on the front of my traffic keeper rel for
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  Speaker 3: school at Jennifer Aniston on one.
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  Speaker 1: Probably would have been a Katie Holmes. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that I dedicated a montage, but it would have been.
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  Speaker 1: I would have had a couple of cardboard cutouts, Yeah,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: just a couple.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, some had holes in him, some didn't.
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  Speaker 1: No comment, I was covered in plastic.
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  Speaker 2: Did that count?
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: No one will know. They're going to know, Oh that's right, Stargate.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Now it's weird in an episode like this where you're
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: getting excerpts and it feels like it's a flashback episode
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  Speaker 1: and a clip show, but it's not. It's like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to show you what happened that you were
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  Speaker 1: about to undo, because clearly he's not going to stay
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: forty eight thousand years in the future. Yeah, so it's
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: weird to say, hey, this is this is history, but
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: this is what you're going to need to change. And
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: this is where shit went wrong. And it was a
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: little bit like you know, we had O'Neill. I'm probably
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: getting crossed over with an actual episode. And when I've
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: spoken to you guys about, you know, the sort of
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: fan film or fan episode that I might have made
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: about O'Neil where he you know, you find it just
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: how important he is. And if he wasn't there at
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: the start, if he never came back to Stargate, if
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: he never went on that mission in the film, what
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: would have become of Earth and the Guld taking over
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: and whatever else would have happened. And it was a
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: bit like that where it was like, ohh Shepherd, you
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: weren't here and then shit fell apart, not just because
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: you weren't there, but just the domino effect of you
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: not being around, and you know, like Sony, people just
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: sacrifice themselves. And then even through Rodney found some happiness,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: like through a lot of sadness, then goes back home here.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I was what only a couple of weeks ago talking
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: about Rodney, know whichever, I think maybe off the back
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: of him almost proposing and not but then just thinking
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: about a future of him being married and with a
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: family or whatever. I said. I can't think of him
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: ever not being on Atlantis. Like Rodney's not the type
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: that would ever leave an expedition like this and leave
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: all that knowledge out there or all those problems unsolved
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: or all those solutions not found. He just hit his
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: ego would not allow it, and thank god because he
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: is brilliant. But we get in this he's like he
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: was just so done with everything that was going on
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: that he's like, yeah, get I'm going back home, and
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: then fell in love in three weeks and then stays
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: around with Keller and then she gets sick.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: And to be fair, if you were locked on the
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Daedalis with same day three in the same situation, if she.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Got Stockholm syndrome, for sure.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I mean at the end of trio she asked with
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: a beer, so she needs to be drunk to be
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: with him.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: But sounds like she's had a bit of a party pass.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: That's where we're bringing a little bit of who was
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: she in fire Fly? Oh Kaylee Kaylee?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeahley the mechanic.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Like watching that show and then all of a sudden,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I think one of the episodes of the starts and
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: someone walks into like you know, like the it's almost
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: like the story dream of the ship or something, and
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: it was weird noise and you realize she's getting absolutely railed.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Engineering out of gas that's right next to the mate
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: that's the the warp core basically engineer.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and I just and like she just I'm like, oh, no,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: sweet little Kayla. I won't know because she was just
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: like yeah, shot little church Mouse.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Then three episodes earlier when she's in that white fluffy
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: outfit with the umbrella and stuff like that, Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, you're too innocent for this show. And then
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: It's like getting railed.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, hello, just and then she took
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: that guy's job because he was the engineer.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, this one is that scene from the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: daedalust Is that what's going on? And like just shit,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: just bad shit just keeps happening. And so yeah, I'm
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: wondering how I will feel about this next week because
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I almost need some time to let it just settle,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: flush out a little bit, because like it was good,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: absolutely it was good. I'm just in my own head
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: because of the emotional steaks and the gut punches that
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: had had. I'm like, oh my god, this was like,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: this was amazing and like it was as a watch through,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: just a weird in a way for a season finale
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: for this to be the case, Like we've had some
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: of those ones along the way, you know, whether it
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: be there but for the grace of God, you know
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing with Daniel. Hey, here's a glimpse
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: of what might happen, what is going to happen, and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: then he gets to go back home and try and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: prevent that, and it's it's that but with a time
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: travel twist on it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: You said there but for the grace of God in
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: my head I heard before I sleep.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Right, we get those there and they were never the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: season finale, so it was weird. I'm like, Okay, where
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: does this end? Does it end with him just going
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: back and it's almost like this is just set up
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: for season five or do we get back halfway through?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: But then it almost doesn't feel like there was enough
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: stakes of him being stuck in there if we spend
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: only half the time.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Well, so fun fact is the original ending for this
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: episode was him coming back through the stargate and going
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I know where Taylor is it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Was supposed to be cut to black.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: But sci Fi went, and, like I was saying last week,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: they hadn't actually ordered season five yet.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Oh. That was the first thing I thought of when
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I'm watching this, like the fact that it ended the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: way that it did. Tommy continued, they all look like
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: they should be dead. I'm like, oh, that's a if
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: they didn't know yet what a brave way or the
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: most like ambitious, arrogant way to go. What are you
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: gonna do? Are you're not going to bring us back? Yeah?
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: But that was up so sci Fi went, We're gonna
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: make you leave it on a cliffhanger. We're going to
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: make you put everybody in p because they thought the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I Know where Taylor is that wasn't enough to get
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: people like over the Line to come.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Back next season. Yeah, but so I hadn't even ordered
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: a new season yet.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: It's like, damn Dale.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is something that does come to the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: top of mind when I think about something like that.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: It doesn't help that the football is also in the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: corner of the studio that we're recording.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: But like the Footy Show twenty minutes in with no score.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, brilliant, a great game. I mean we're recording this,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: it's like we're watching soccer. No, this is yeah. I'm
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: not going to say no. Sign on soccer.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: You'll get it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: That's one great well game. But that you stepping on
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the footy show and you'd have the host Fatty and
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: he would I like how.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: He looks at me when he's talking about the Footy
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Show because you don't.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Know, I've watched Cracker fat the fat a whack, Yeah, yeah,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: the fatter Whack.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: That's my godfather too, by the way, Craig, if you
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: didn't know that, a little bit of trivia, yeah yeah yeah.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And Fatty would come out and in like season finale,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the grand final show of that year, and be like,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and we'll see he's on next year. Great news, we're
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: all coming back for next season. Everyone rah hadn't that
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: hadn't been renewed. But he would come out in front
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of a live audience and a million people watching it
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: home and tell everyone we will back in March and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: we'll see you there. And it's like they don't have
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to then pay millions of dollars to keep that show
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: going from the twelve months just because he said that
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: that it's going.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: To be a pr nightmare if they don't.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: He said why, oh he said that, and he was lying, Oh,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: why would he do that? So brilliant stuff. So that's
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: what this felt like, where you see the factory collapse
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, that's where we're leaving it. Oh shit,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Now I know that this show is okay. I don't
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: know when they found out that it wasn't coming back
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: post season five, but I've always been led to believe
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that it's still somewhat premature as far as a climax
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: for the story goes like it does go unresolved, that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: they were always toying with the idea of making a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: movie right to wrap the story up, and they still
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: never get did they ever? Did they ever in fact
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: had a comic or they were going to have a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: comic as well, like to to turn those scripts? Remember, okay,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: so they mustn't be Then I thought I'd heard that
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: along the way that there.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Was a graphic novel, wasn't there?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: That might be? But yeah, that like that. Yeah, they
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: didn't get to make the movie, so they basically chant
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the story into a Yeah, I swear no, it was
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: on the I remember Joe Fling.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I remember Joe flaning it a couple of years ago
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: talking about he actually tried to buy that script to
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: get it made and he couldn't.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, he tried to buy the bights for the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: show and everything. Yeah, they don't know.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: If I don't know if they could have made the
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: comic then if he was still trying to buy the
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: script turn it into a movie, I don't know how.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know how that would work.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: All I know is all I remember is that after
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: they did Archa of Truth and Continuum, there was going
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: to be a third Stargate movie that was an Atlantis,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: one that sort of combined it was right, and that
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: was gonna be I think it was gonna be called
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: But that was the one that got canceled because Continuing
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: archae Truth didn't perform the way they wanted to. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: think at the same time Atlantis got canceled. And then obviously,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: when we found out from the audio commentary a couple
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: of weeks ago, Brad and Cooper were already working on Universe.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, it's somewhat quickly followed. Yeah, Okay, so
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I think there is.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I think there's there's rumblings and it's.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Never been confirmed, but I think when it when it
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: did get canceled at the end of season five, I
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: do believe some people like working on the show, maybe
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: some of the accents of it. Oh, we got bumped
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: so that Universe got the go ahead. Yeah, you know
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the Sci Fi Channel at the time, because ratings had
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: gone down, they weren't willing to have they weren't willing
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: to pay for two stars.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: That if okay, the telemovies didn't quite hit as what
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: as hard as you might have thought, Atlantis is waning
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and they go, you know what, we
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: should do another spin off like rather than I'm sure
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: they were trying as hard as they could with SGA
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to like bump it up and get it back to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: it that you know where people wanted it all apparently
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: wanted to tell. But just the idea of like just
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: doubling down by making another show and trying to get
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: people invested.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Because it was the Battlestar Galactica knockoff. You'll see it
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: when we get there.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Well, because that I know about, Yeah, it does.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: It's insanely Dif this episode came out March of two
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: thousand and eight, which is round about the time Battlestar
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: came out with in two thousand and eight. I believe,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: so next season would have been Battlestar Galactica's like second season,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: which was peak peak popularity.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Four go watch it.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Three and four aren't great for me, but one and
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: two are fantastic, and yeah, I feel.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Like, sorry, oh yeah, yeah, I think I've seen the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: first season. I really I really really liked it really good.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah that and that was the
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: criticism that the Universe ended up getting was it just
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: looked too much like Battlestar Galactica, and people who were
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: fans of SG one and Atlantis, it was a bit
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: of a culture shock. They're going, this isn't this isn't
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: this syndicated show that we've grown to love. It's this
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you know battles like like where each episode runs into
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: each Like Mitch, I honestly don't know how we're going
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: to figure out what episodes we're going to combine, not
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: for Universe when we get to it, because the premiere
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: is three episodes just called Airpart one, Airpart two, and
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Airpart three. And I'm like, do we do that as
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: one episode or do it a three episodes. I have
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: no idea interesting ones. It's I don't know, it's just
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: gonna be. It's I'm gonna I'm actually gonna hit up
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Jacob because he's the universe, Like, you give me what
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: you would suggest of how we need to do these episodes,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: because it is very much a just one episode rolls
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: into the next, roles into the next, ros into the next.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Rol Yeah, next for Patreon too, We'll ask that's a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: good idea. Ask Patreons what they think.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: But apparently, because we're just talking about Continuum and Arc
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: of Truth, apparently, when Paul Mully kind of had the
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: idea for this episode, the original visual he said that
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: he had was Shepherd walking out of the balcony and ice.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: It was everything was frozen. Oh that's different.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: That was, and then he basically wrote an episode around that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: And then by the time they started going, yeah, we
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: can turn this to what we need to turn it into,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: they went, we've just done continuum. There's a lot of
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: ice there, so let's do something different.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: So then that's when they went, Okay, well let's flip
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: it the other way and do.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Do the sand and the dried out ocean and stuff.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, like just even for him. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: honestly I rewound it twice because I thought that I'd
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: missed something and just in the setup of like how
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: long it had been, like where they were coming from,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and that just that exchange with Lawn and I'm like, no,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: there's there's nothing here. It's just it's just exposition to going, hey,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: remember last week, we're still doing that. Okay, I'll see
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you later, bye, but just go in and just had
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that sort of that orange or red hue over it,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, what's this. Okay, so's he's like, yeah,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: he's taking a not alternate universe reality or whatever. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: just thought he's not maybe not even in another like
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: alternate Atlantis, like where they've went to a different planet
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and there was the secondary Atlantis, you know, is it
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: something like that. But I did not I did not
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: expect that of what we got at eight thousand years well,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: just even in the future at all. Like I just
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: just so far from from my thoughts.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I do have something for you.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Look, I'm just gonna say, Look, I'm not proud of it,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: but I have something for you.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: You made something go up two levels.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Turn right, there's an outer doors went a quarter of
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: a mile across the plass.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: You can't do that?
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Why not only is it extremely hot out there over
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: the last half an hour, the barimantic pressure has been
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: dropping and the wind used to increase significantly.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a sandstorm. Yes, have ever been in one of those?
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I have.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, then then I know what that means.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're talking foot This is what the Broncos used
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: to ride out too. He'd be like and welcome, there
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: is a broadcast.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: That's the Brisbane Bullets.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: When I used to go and see them, they'd come
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: out to back in black because they had they had
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: their blue uniforms for their home uniforms and they had
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: the white ones for.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: A way, but then they just had these other black ones.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Was black with blue piping.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: And when they started having a like a winning streak
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: on that, they would just they were okay when where
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: we were in these next week, we're in these next week.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Attention to bris and Broncos, who I do work with
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: obviously each and every week. If you could do that
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: for next year when you bring back they're all black jerseys.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Back in Black is their entry song because those bloody
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: jerseys this year kicked us. Damo knows what I'm talking about,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and we'll definitely bring that back, and back in Black
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: would be a kick ass way to do it. We
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: had to root in this studio only a couple months ago.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: He was for a gig. Yeah. Yeah, it was like
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the twentieth anniversary of the two songs that I know
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that he does Sandstorm and and does it feel the beat?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say he had two songs. I mean,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I actually know it was celebrating the anniversary of Sandstorm
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and only Sandstorm. I'm assuming field the beat was around it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: At the same time, it was like, look at what
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: else this guy does? Anything else? Nothing?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: What did you.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Think of the CGI of the sand over like Atlantis itself,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I think that was probably some of the worst CGI
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: we've seen in the entire stuff.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It was rough.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I think the birds are like drones sort of view,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: like they showed the entire city. It was a bit
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I feel like they were in a budget because the
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: crowd duplication shot was really bad too. When when Michael
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: comes out with the severed head of the Queen and
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: then it comes off and going and just the worst
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: crowd duplication shot you've ever seen. So yeah, I think
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: they ran out of.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: My this episode. Yeah, the CGI was not up to I.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Want to say even and I should get my I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: got my computer because I took a I took a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: photo and it was it was actually from last week,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: but just some of the some of the props that
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: they've been using and even in this one, but like
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Taylor has been locked up and last week as well,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like like just door handles, Like can we not think
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: of a different way to even have it? Like door handles, hinges, latches,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: they're all just human. They're very earthy. Like I get
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that you don't want to have to recreate everything, like
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: how different can a door be? But you know, like hey,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily give them a hobbit door and make it
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: like an like a stargate shape.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Hard's loss of raptors come back.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but like I was looking at the doorhandle,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: it was just like, you know, an actual hand, like
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, a cylinder, wrap your hand around. I'm like,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: why couldn't it be like a hole in the like
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: almost like a hole in one side of the door
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and you almost stick your hand into the and like
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: then open it up from inside, like just to make
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: it enough different enough, right, And there was like I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: swear there's like toolboxes in the back. And then even
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: that factory that fell down, like it was a silo,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Like we're just sort of very brick building.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: They just had a little bit of wraith goo over
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: the top that the Wraith spider webs over.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I thought he'd fallen off his chair.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: It's happened for I was that shocked.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I think what they were trying to go with is
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: it was like a Jeni planet, for example, that Michael
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: had appropriated.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: So it was kind of a combination of technology.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: But I just don't think it read that way. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: it didn't. It didn't look it didn't look great to me.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, I've got to show you one this
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: photo and I think it was from last week's episode.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: And that was the thing, is I I forgot how
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: good this episode is because I do loop it in
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: with the Kindred because it is kind of just this
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: little side quest before going back to looking for Taylor.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: So I kind of forget how good this episode is. Yeah, yes,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: so I get a confused with the Kindred all the time.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this was from last week in Kindred episode one,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: where Taylor went and found that merchant who was yep,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: selling all the ship from her people, and behind him
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: is the most basic looking like filing box. You know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: like look at that head like I could buy that,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: my key, I could go to office works right now,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: or I key and buy that very like that's a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Don's joe. Yeah, it's just like it's it's red, dude,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it's bright red and otherwise like very like you know, bronze. Look,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: everyone's wearing the same sort of color scheme and it
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: just ship like that that. I'm like, I know you
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: can't reinvent every wheel, but when you are on an
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: alien planet in a foreign galaxy and everything just looks so.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Cute no painted corn true or.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: That's something in this.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Season when Ronan went to that pub and he met
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: all his all his old people, and he had the
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: brush stainless steel beer mugs with the pham bottoms on
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: him like the black phone bottom.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, come on, guys and bros.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: In a pub that didn't have running water like sewerage.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even take like props if their metallic, go outside
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and just throw them and let them drop on the ground,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: like scuff them up and dint them and stuff, make
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: them just like bend them out of shape a little bit.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I just I used to follow a cosplayer and he
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: like he's based down in Sydney, and yeah, he would
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: do that. He deliberately did cosplays that were like roughed
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: up version of things. So he would buy like a
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: new like Batman suit and he would take it into
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: his front driveway in Sydney and just rub it into
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: the driveway.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Just gone to Western Sydney and.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Tried to pick a fight with someone and.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: He's like, you know what, this cousblay needs some driveway dirt.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Shit kicked out the most Australian thing.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I mean. I went to a work Halloween party last
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: year and I went as Michael Myers and I was
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: on my way and I'm like, I just the overall
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the macare overall, they just it's like a dark navy
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm like it just looks too clean. And so
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I was at a shopping center grabbing like some fake
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: blood or some shit, and I got back the first
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: time got back to the car, and there was like
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a little garden next to where I parked, and so
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: like it was I was like right on the edge
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: of that that row next to the main thoroughfare of cars,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and here I am just standing in the middle of
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: this garden and in a break between the hedges there
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: was just like dirt. Obviously everyone walked through it. And
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I've just got down with my costume while all these
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: cars peak hour just like rubbing my overalls into the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: dirt and just picking up like that looks good. More
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: on the back I would have looked like a mental patient.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: You know, you gotta do these things. You'll make a
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: look legit. And it's just been a couple of times
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: in just these last three episodes and two episodes of
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: our podcast alone that I just went really like, I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: don't know. And even that crowd shot of Michael coming
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: out with the severed head, and you know, he already
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: looks humanish and his costume looks humani ish, and then
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: he goes down to all these people and I'm like
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: they just looked in from Vancouver Central, like.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all five of them, Yeah, it looked like fifty
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: And I was like.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Turning your jacket inside out so you're a different person. Yeah,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: oh wow, these guys look so super threatening.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they could have brought in all the Cliff Simons again.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Had another run. It would have been amazing, been excellence.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: How did you feel about seeing Sam in command of
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: a three O two for the first like properly in
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: command of the three or two. Well, they didn't the
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Phoenix in this episode, her being able to have her
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: own Daedalus class ship.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I liked. I think it was. It probably
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: didn't have the umph that it otherwise would have because
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: it was it felt like a flashback and felt like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: you know, it felt fake news because it wasn't not
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: an alternate, but it was something that wasn't going to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: come to I mean maybe it does, maybe next week
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: she gets to the Phoenix whatever, but it just I
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: It mean three or four that's what I said. You
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: said three oh two. No, I said three or four.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I've got three or four written anyhow, he said three
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: or two. Consult the tape.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I heard nothing.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I guess this is kind of a spoiler, but kind
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: of not. But the Phoenix is the one I think
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: we find out in Continuum. They've renamed the Phoenix the
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: George Hammond. Because of Donnez Davis's passing in real life,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: they were going to use the Phoenix and then renamed
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: it the George Hammond. So they did kind of set
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: up the Phoenix here as being that was gonna be
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: the one to follow the Apollo, and then I think
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Don passed away, yes, somewhere between season four and five
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: or something like that. Ah right, yeah, somewhere around this time.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: So yeah, they renamed it the the George Hammond or
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: just the Hammond or something. I can't even remember now.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I think it was just the Hammond, wasn't it. I
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: can't remember. We'll find out. We'll find out when we
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: get there.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you for looking at me when you asked that,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Craig is any idea?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, I did really enjoy seeing Sam properly
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: in command and having to like share it with O'Neill
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: or share it with Cam or anything like that. I
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: just think it really felt like Sam was their element there,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: and Mitch and I were talking about it. I think
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: off Mike a couple of weeks ago, we were talking
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: about like how ridiculous it is in some movies and
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: TV shows when like a captain wants to go down
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: with the ship and they don't have to, And I
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: feel like this was the perfect.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: They kind of covered it by going, well, you know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I think I knew where it was going to end
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that scene. Yeah, obviously she's going to sacrifice herself. But
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: when she says to the rest of her crew, you
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: get off, I'll be right behind you. And then mackay
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: just filling in the gaps going I guess like the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: teleportation divice, you know she lost that. I'm like, oh,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: did she or did she want to do this?
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and question to the room, oh is this where
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Ryan Johnson got the holdome maneuver from the end of
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Last Jedi Laura did Amanda Taffick did it first? She
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: didn't do it in like, you know, subspeed. But look
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: at that time, I don't.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I don't want to associate Stargate with anything to do
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: with that film.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, it's not the first ship to do
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: a chemic cars if we get it. I just mean
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: like a woman in power of a giant ship using
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: it to crash into another giant with a.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Cool explosion, with a cool explosion.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like to think my head ken and
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I like to think is that she was beating the
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: crew off, then she was set in collision course and
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: then beaming herself off and then lost the transporters or whatever.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you never know, she could have decided.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: To Yeah, I would like to think that she wouldn't
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: want to do that because as like it was, you know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the sort of slow movie and on that shot to
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: see her face and automatically like the first thing I'm
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: thinking of is from the audio commentary, we played a
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago of her talking about her boyfriend
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: in Washington. I'm like, Oh, you're so close.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: You're going to get to.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: The more moment there beforehand where I thought that she
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: was going to get with Rodney or Rodney was going
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: to get with her.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, when they had that one and only kind of
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: wholesome moment where she gave.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Him the smalls like, oh, is Rodney gonna you know.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Rodney's gonna think that He's gonna think that way.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: It's funny, Amanda.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: They said in the auto commentary that was the thing
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: that Amanda Tapping was the most excited film was that
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: much she didn't she didn't really care about all the
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: action and the and they're getting to be the commander
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: of a ship and all that kind of stuff. It
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: was it was that scene that she was most interested
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: in David Horing and well, yeah, just that they Yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: they finally had a nice moment where Rodney wasn't being
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: a tool or you know, being like, oh, she's only
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: hugging me because she loves me or anything like that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it was. It was a really nice
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: moment that she was out with. There is actually it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Down because I guess, out of anybody there, she's known
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: him the longest.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: So yeah, there is some actual good depth to Rodney's
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: character over the years, and he does grow.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we spoke about that a few weeks ago.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: It's like it's two steps forward, one step back, and
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: two steps forward one step back, so long as he
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: just you know, smacks back into who he was. But
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: over the course, you do see little improvements and stuff
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: like that from here and there.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: So there'll always be Lemons.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I thought it was funny though, in the scene where
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Johanne comes in from the sandstorm and falls through the
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: old Man Rodney hologram, and it took me back to
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: was it season four of SG one or whatever, when
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Carter was the hologram and she was helping O'Neill run
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: around the attack and stuff like that, and then she
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: got zadded and and she fell on the hologram and
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Jack like put his hands out to catch her, even
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: though she Rodney didn't.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Rodney didn't even bother to put his hands out to
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: catch John. He almost went like.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Mister Burns and just kind of, you know, put him
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: in like a little t Rex and just let and
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: let John just fall straight through.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: And I was like, that's the difference between Rodney and Jack.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I liked the detail they went into to explain why
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Ai Rodney was so like real Rodney, Like how much
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: they had to download and how he had to like develop,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm like they could have just said, hey, this
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: is me downloaded my consciousness or some bullshit into the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: endo the computer, but like they had to like o
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: expl as brief as it was, it still felt like
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: an over explanation. Yeah, just to say, hey, it's not
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: as dumb as like I just hit copy on my
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: brain like it and I uploated.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: All of his tapes that he's been playing, yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Have recorded for Taylor.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: He's actually just he's got a big back catalog of those,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: like I shared it year ago.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: There's How Smart I Am.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: There's a great episode of Frasier where he comes in
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: after he's done his hundred one hundredth radio show and
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: and he's got a little cassette tape it's like one,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: and he walks into his bedroom. He's got this giant
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: free standing, this gorgeous wooden uh what are you gonna call?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Like a hutch like cupboard type thing, and he opens
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: it up and slides the doors back, and it's just
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: full of cassette tapes, every single one whose radio shows.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: And he just puts that one in the next little spot.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like Rodney's got that of all these little
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: things that he's done, he just pulled one of those
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: out and gave it to Taylor's Baby last week.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Why I was right Rodney McKay's story and autobiography.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: But it's funny you're talking about the yeah, the like,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: the the explaining of the AI and what old Man
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Roddye was.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Have you watched Ironheart yet?
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: The new Disney Plus series that came out a couple
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: of weeks ago, the Marvel one.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, considering when we're recording this No, surely by
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: then yes.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: By the time this episode comes out, So there is
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: there's a really cool aspect of what you were just
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: talking about that actually incorporate into that show that I
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: had no idea was coming. Oh cool, which was a
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: really it. It introduces a whole new element to the
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: character of Reary. And I was like, I watched the
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: first three episodes and I.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Was like, this is awesome, this is great.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, Maddie feels that way. I'm lucky to feel
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: that way, and it means the show sucks. Yeah, oh no,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: there's a black woman as a main character. Gross.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Ah that person over there have? They then pronound this
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: show's woke.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Well do you see how much like on Rotten Tomatoes
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: it was getting down voted by fans and the episodes
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: hadn't even released yet. Guys, just hold your hate fingers
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: just for a second.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Like, people, people fucked Genie's back in this episode. Yeah,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: little came out with Genie.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, I saw her name pop up in
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the in the credits. You I didn't see that, Yeah,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: And I go, oh cool, she's gonna be that. This
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: is great, And then she's in it for like four
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: seconds and it's like underneath the narration. Yeah, and I
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: love that because it's Tewartt's actual sister acting with it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Like he called her in for a favor. I'm sure
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: she made, you know, a couple hundred bucks off it
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but like the idea that she would do
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: something so small.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and Martin would did say like they filmed
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: for an entire day. He just kind of let them
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: just do their own thing, and he did have more
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: of that, but they just kind of ran out of time,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I think obviously, because yeah, they had to have that
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: whole scene at the end of the rescue and stuff
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: like that, given where the episode was supposed to end with,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I know where Taylor is. I guess stuff had hit
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: the cunning room floor and that was one of them.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: But it is a good way to just yeah, like
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: like I said, she she would have been in Vancouver anyway.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: They probably just called her in. She got her day
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: rate or whatever, and it just yeah, it works, you hear.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I was saying that, like Shepherd the sadness around him
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: finding out, hey, you are so far in the future,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: everyone's dead and at that moment before a Rodney tells
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: him he doesn't like he's just being told how bad
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: things are. He's not getting told that there is maybe
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: some hope, maybe we'll be able to get you back.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: But then Rodney's side of the story getting back to
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Earth and watching the woman that he's in love with
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: die in front of him, and then well, I mean
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: before that happened. But still then the rest of his
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: life dedicated to trying to reverse what had happened, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: how he can say, eventually save Shepherd and send him
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: back further in time to prevent all this other sort
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: of shit. What a sad existence he had. I mean, Rodney,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: he's always someone that's dedicated to his mission and lives
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: for his work. But when he's even said like his
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: sister shows up to help him out, and she would
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: even do things that he couldn't do, and eventually she's like,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not wasting any more. She's got a kid, she's
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: got a husband, she's got to live her own life.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And he's like, okay, cool, thanks for your time. You
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: can tap out now, you know, swipe your card and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the way out. And he's just going to continue to
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: sit there and dedicate the rest of his life to
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to guaranteeing that he's not ever going to remember all
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: this work that he did.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Side note, there's a great character to bring back for
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: the Stargate reboot, Genie's daughter Madison.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been mentored by Uncle Rodney. It's like, oh God,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: now we get a narcissistic woman.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: I think there was a part of old Man Rodney
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: as well that, even though he knew he was potentially
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: going to change the past, he'd rather have Jennifer back
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: alive and potentially not be with her.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: He did say that line right like they said, Shepherd's like,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: if we if I get back, there's no guarantee that
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: exactly you get the girl. And he's like, I hope not.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: And then they tell the story about her dying. I'm like, oh,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: it was rude. It's funny.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Paul Mully did the audio commentary with Martin Wood and
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: he said Martin Wood was actually the one that brought
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: up and he said, you know, when I started reading
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: the script, I was like, oh, this is a John story.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: And then the further got through the script, he goes, oh, no.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: This is a Rodney story. Yeah, yeah, this is a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Rodney story.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: It was a great trend like before you knew it,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: like it was a John story and then all of
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you're five ten minutes into the Rodney story
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and you don't even notice the change.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Made this a two parter.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they could have really gone the John part and
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: then the Rodney part.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they definitely could have explored that more.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, there was definitely some filler last week
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: that could have gone without. But Ronan Strike Force, Ronan's sword,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: his sword finally comeback. Brief as it was, I was like,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I totally forgot about his sword.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: It was good to see shout out to Dave Hewett.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: And then the prosthetics. At times it's like, okay, yeah,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that's what old makeup looks like. But then his performances
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: were like just it was like only half his face
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: moved at times, and it might have been restricted because
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: of the makeup, but it did add to him looking
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: old because of the performance behind it. I just I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: just I don't know. I thought I thought he did
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a great job.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Apparently, they said in the Word commentary he did a
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: lot of work on working on he wanted this to
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: be a different Rodney, Like, yeah, he spoke a lot slower,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: like the holographic version was still very much young Rodney
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: in that he was talking very fast and all those
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: kind of things. But the Rodney that you saw in
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: the flashbacks and that kind of stuff was he spoke
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: slower and that kind of thing.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, David Hughlett really got into that he.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Was a Rodney that had been affected by his relationship
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: with Keller.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ye, grown a lot more.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was that was the final straw for
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: That was the final Like you're saying before, Mit, it's like,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: you can't imagine a Mackay not in Atlantis, and then
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: it's like, you know, he did that. But it wasn't
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: until Keller got sick that he's like, oh, okay, this
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: is this is the line in the sand.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Now we really have to you know.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Down and fix figure out a way.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I thought that was really interesting. There
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: was a moment between Shepherd and Mackay and I was like,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: this is so Mitch and Maddie coded. I really I
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: couldn't believe it. It's like a conversation that you were not
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: if you and I are in this situation. I feel
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: like it's the conversation that we would have.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be reading right here.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: When you come out.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: The past twenty five years, you haven't to notice who
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: won the Super Bowl, Big Night Stand, the Cup Series.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: I was not really much of a sports fan, right,
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: and you.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Ask to be you wake up forty eight thousand years like, yeah,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: what happened in the Broncos Yeah?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I disappeared, you know, like two games into a State
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: of Origin seriesly, yeah, yeah, man, you tell me how. No,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: don't tell me, actually, no, tell me who won Game
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: three twenty twenty five.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: It was a twenty twenty five game.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: No, no, right, if that ever happens, I've got yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will be your sports on That's what I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: was going to say before Actually was was that moment
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: like you talk about the stuff that was obviously had
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to be cut and left on the on the edit
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: to a floor that so much was building up, like oh,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: you're going to be you know, cryed for another nearly
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: thousand year. It's gonna be seven hundred. Holy shit, the
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: sun's about to die. You've only got about five hundred.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Hang on before we use the juice, will maybe we'll
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: get another six hundred, six hundred and fifty years, so
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: it'll it's going to have to be enough. And hey,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: well when you wake up, you actually, you know, if
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: if you wake up and none of this is working,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: you actually won't feel anything. You'll just be You'll be dead.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: You'll be dead. But if you do you'll wake up,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: it'll be like no time has passed, and then we'll
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: just you know, we'll have to throw you straight in
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: front of the gate and hopefully it'll be at the
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: right time, and blah blah blah blah blah. He goes
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: asleep and all of a sudden he's coming back through
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: the gate and I'm like, I get that. We didn't
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: need to see the scene. They just explained what would happen.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: But maybe I did want to see the relief on
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: his face, or the urgency in Ai Rodney going okay,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: we're still forty.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Years too early, or he's actually starting to boil.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe shit's really hitting the fan. I don't know,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: it just would I feel like there was just that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: little bit extra that I would have loved to have seen.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: It's funny you brought that up because of the audio commentary.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Mark would kind of lamented that where he was just like, ah,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I wish.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish they'd been away jump.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like that moment, there was a moment that
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: we could have had.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we kind of we lost Yeah, he was he
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: was really conscious of that.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Funnily enough, and I really hate to say it, but
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: we do have to say goodbye and good night to
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: one mister Martin Would. Oh no, this is the last
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: episode of This is his last of seventy eight episodes franchise,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: right that he directed.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I'll get into more into.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: It next season. I think. I don't want to give
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: you any spoilers or anything like that because I would.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Never do that. But yeah, this is his last episode. Wow, Yeah,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: done dusted. Yeah.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: So again, like I was talking about last week with
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: you know, we lost Peter West, who directed quite a
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: number of episodes. We lose Martin Wood, who I think
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Martin Would and Peter Deloiz are kind of, like, you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: for me, the top tier, the top two directors of
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: the franchise and yet to not have had a Peter
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Deloweese episode.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: What you said off camera, you were talking all about Cooper.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, speaking of I shout out to uh. The timeframe
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: of this is the people that are on this get
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: into Gate Discord, who I spoke to many weeks ago
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: slash several hours ago, depending on would you like me
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: to check if you're listening to this or when I'm
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: recording it. But I did want to letveryone know that, Yeah,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: I jumped on the discord and yeah, there were there
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: were some comments about I don't know why maybe hates
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Giro so much, and I'm like, he's my Cooper.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: We all need who do I have? I don't have anybody,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: do I Maybe by universe? Maybe?
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we need to find you someone to hating universe.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: That'd be perfect because Brendan was hating Cooper all through
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Stu one, I was heading Giro through this.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: You gotta find someone to hating universe.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I will have my time.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: So excellent.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Astria is one that's on there quite a lot. Great,
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: I'm Steve obviously. Ducky Squeak was one.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Brandon, who had to hate to verify
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: me when I jumped on the discord.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: He was like, how do we do? This is the
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: real high pitch, Maddie. So he had to slip into
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: my insta. I think Brandon is one that.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Actually set up discord, so oh thank you.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if anyone wants to jump.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: On board our discord, I did a couple of weeks
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: ago post slash today post the Discord link on our
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Facebook page, and I believe Mitchis can add adding it
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: to the link tree on our Instagram.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: If anyone wants to jump on board Discord. I'm still
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: figuring out what it is, but it looks interesting, sor right.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: If Maddie needs help, I'll help him. I use Discord
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: every day and I do jump on the get into
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Gate one occasionally as well. Brilliant.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've I got.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I got admin status once I got I don't know
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: what that means. He talked about calling me a perm
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: or something, and I was like, okay, sure, yeah right,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I'm a perm with something.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I was like that that sounds awesome. You got all
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: the power moa haha, Woolsey.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be a shame that the you know, worst
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: version of the Atlantis universe was if Woolsey ended up
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: being in charge of the bay.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be terrible? Would be horrible?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Who would ever consider that to be a good idea?
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Who's let me consult my dv.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Oh look away from this season?
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Five DVD.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Mitchell, don't look at it like stop.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like there was. I was about to say they
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: crammed a lot into the final like once Sheepherd got back,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: but obviously Woolsey that was part of the flashback stuff.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we're just going back to what we were
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: talking about right at the beginning. I actually think that
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I liked the We've got nothing to compare it to,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: but the way that this was paced and spaced out,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: with how much took place in the future and how
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: much took place once he got back. You know, I
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: don't think I would have liked if the final shot
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: was him popping out going I know where Taylor is
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: not even just as being a cliffhanger, I'm like they
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: would have felt like too much time in the future
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: for no payoff at the end of the episode. And
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: maybe it wouldn't have been enough of a cliffhanger because
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: we spent three or four episodes looking for Taylor. Has
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: been that long, it's been like two and a half whatever,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: or we'll get to that. Oh, okay, both of you
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: look at me. I don't know what he's laughing.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: We haven't talked about this before we know, we haven't
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: said anything up. He's well, he's got parrot then. But yeah,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I think that I like and I would have hated
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: too if it would have been half and half. So
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: We got like two thirds or three quarters more so.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: And then everyone got their own story as well. I
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: feel like they at a certain point they were talking
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: about Ronan was going to be part of someone else's story,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: and they're like, no, no, we want to give all
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: these characters their own sort of what happened to them.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, could have their own spin off show. Ronan Strike Force.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Straight for us X, Straightforward A for Aquaman, The Stargates Sleeveless.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they've all got to get that same tattoo,
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: the triangles, Oh yeah, the triangles on the forum.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: Imagine that if Amazon actually gets Momoo into a new
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Stargate series.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: It'd be amazing. I mean, he says yes to anything.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, basically if he enjoys it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: It's not about the money anymore.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: For him. It's just like, am I going to have
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: some fun? Well, I say that I get my guns?
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: There? Can we can we get Jack Black now into
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: the Stargate universe as well?
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I say this as we record it. But Amazon allegedly
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: hiring to direct the first of their James Bond films,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: And that's a big dick swing. That is like you're
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: getting Dennie Like everyone's like Christopher Nolan. It's like that
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: would be great, Denis would be great. There's like only
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: a handful of directors that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: If you go, I've got a preference between.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Those, but like name alone, if you go, are we're
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: getting Scorsese, Garantino, Nolan or Denny As.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Not Michael Bay.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Imagine Michael Bay directed done well and we're going back
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: to the deending on Lincoln Park. Yeah, to the DC stuff.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: And it's I think it got not proven to be,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: but it certainly got denied that Michael Bay. There was
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: a report going around and a couple months ago that
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Michael Bay was in line to direct orally sought after
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: to direct a Man of Steel sequel. And I was
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: just laughing the idea of like all the people that
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: defended the sort of like merciless destruction in that which
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: in destruction doesn't matter. It was just more so the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: like carelessness, careless destruction in that movie. And I'm like,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and the next thing that they were going to do
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: was get the guy who does transformers come in and
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: make the sceneal go, let's looks. We're gonna say, hang on,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? And you just lost an entire city.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: An entire city is now gone.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: White damage and bad boys. Why is Superman driving a
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Shelby Cobra?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Was he always drinking a pepsi?
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: And another mountain dew, mountain mountain. But the fact that
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Amazon have went, oh no, we're going to get like
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: this very established director who likes you know, he's got
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: his own style and his own control, and this sort
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: of maybe like gives us an idea of what Bond's
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: going to look like under Amazon control. Well, I mean
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: they've got the big dosh, mate, they've been about fourteen
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: billion dollars making a Lord of the Rings prequel. Why
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: not throw yeah, why not throw a ship ton of
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: money at Jason Momoa being the sort of star that
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: he is these days gone, We'll give you a ten
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: episode Ronan Deck spinoff. Yeah, yeah, come back.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: For you won't have to bring the dreads back.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Well, do what you want to be? You want to
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: keep your bid? Have you been? You already have tattoos. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: no worries.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: You want to run in a loincloth?
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Absolutely whatever, man you run run however you want.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Bring his pistol.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: I look, I look forward to seeing Timothy Shallamy as
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: James Bond.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for that.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: That's Bond, James Bond Junior.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Start singing Willy Wonker songs.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's a talent. Absolutely, he could do it.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: I do want to see was it the unknown completely unknown?
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I was about the unknown talent and I was like, no,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: that's not it. I do want to see that. I've
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: referenced before about Taylor and all that kind of stuff.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: So here's the cool bit of trivia that I found
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: out is the two parter from last week was shot
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: as number fourteen and fifteen in order, so when they
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: were shooting all the episodes, it was shot back in
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: and in the fourteen and fifteen place always intended to
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: be where it was.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: And then they gave Rachel the last five episodes of
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the season. Off you go and have a baby. Good. Yeah.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: And so the episodes, the last few episodes we've seen,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: like Midway and Trio and stuff, we didn't see her.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Those were filmed after the Last Man, So that's yeah.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: So she was.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: So when you see like a Taylor lying on the
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: ground and John runs through in this episode, not Rachel double, Yeah,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: that's that's her photo double.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I thought that was quite interesting.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was watching it. My wife is in the room,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: not paying attention at all to what I was watching,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: and I'd already watched it the first five minutes ten
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: minutes of the episode, and then it got to the
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: moment where Ai Rodney is going back through and telling
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: what had happened in his past, and she had no
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: idea that I was watching this sci fi show. It's
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's one guy going, yeah, well
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: they found her. She'd obviously been kept hostage in this dirty,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: disgusting room, and I guess once she'd had the baby,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: he had no use for her anymore, and so he
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: killed her. And this sounds like like this sounds like
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I'm watching someone on Netflix, like Prime Dog Coach, Like
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: why are you getting enjoyment out of this at two
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: o'clock on a Friday afternoon?
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: What are you doing? When did they make a sequel
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: to the Room?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Exactly right?
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was weird though, of all the
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: stories that old men and Rodney told and then we
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: literally went to the freezer pod where last week we
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: left Beck here, and.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: There's no there's no reference to what happened to Beck.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Want thrust him?
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Did we figure it out?
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I wanted him to either still be there or at
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: least like shephard, go hang on.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: We'll put you in the one next just they defrost him,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: go hold on a second, and they just pushed you
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: on in there with it.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: But yeah, have go. Do we ever figure that out?
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: You know? Or something like that, and maybe maybe it
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: would have been better for the show as sad as
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: it would have made it if they do. He goes,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: we didn't. Yeah, we didn't have been frozen.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: It's like a skeleton on the floor.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he was afraid of being frozen for a
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: year ten years or something like that. And it's like, yeah,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: how's forty eight thousand you or it's like how about that?
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Cast is like, oh, yeah, we had we had to
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: switch the power off to keep it going for the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: rest of the city.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe he turned it because if you think about it,
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth went into one of those things for ten thousand
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: years and came out old, so it doesn't completely freeze
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: you in time, it just slows you down. So in
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: ten thousand years, Elizabeth went from being thirty five to ninety.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Five thirty five Season one. You have last season one.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: I will google it.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Just because we're older than that now. And look, hey,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: we've met a beautiful woman.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Thirty What were you guess how old the character? No,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: we're talking about Tory Higgins.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I think Tory Higginson looks a shitload younger than what
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Weird does I met. Yeah, I met Tory Higginson seven
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: years after she finished playing We Are, and she still
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: looks younger than what she did when she started playing.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Do some math for me here, Mitchell.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: The show came in in two thousand and four, so
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: season one before I Sleep was in two thousand and four.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Tory Higginson was born sixth of December nineteen sixty nine.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, so she was thirty five, But like I said,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: she looks.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Believe women, believe women, let women speak, let women be.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: The they are. I want to see a birth certificate,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: birth certificate, fake news, fake news. No, I believe she
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: was thirty five. I'm talking with the character. Doesn't not
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: thirty five. Mate, they make her look old. That haircut
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: makes her look old, you reckon, Yeah, she does. Like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: when I saw like, that's honestly, when I when I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: met her, I barely I'd never seen Atlantis be on
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: the first episode, so I'd only seen Tory as we
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: are a handful of times. Yeah, and I was amazed
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: at how I'm like, oh, you're good, You're good. Was sexy?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: She was sexy that day. She just had some real
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: charisma and presence about her. And yeah, maybe it was
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: the long straight hair as opposed to the.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Short curly and we saw her what twenty fourteen, fourteen, Yeah,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: fourteen actually would have been fourteen years had been there,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: she would have been.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: God I met her in two thousand and five, should
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: have been forty five.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, Tory Higginson at forty five looks younger than
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Weir at thirty five. Like, yeah, everything with everything at.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Me, because I would say, like Michael Shanks when he
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: started SG one, I think he was supposed to be
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: playing like thirty five, but he was like twenty five
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: or something like that.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Because that's right, because spades, uh.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, remember we went back in time, like Michael
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: Shanks's character was born in like nineteen sixty nine or
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: something like that, So technically, Michael, technically Daniel Jackson is
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: the same age as Tory Higgins oh my own grandpa.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so interesting because then there's the whole thing about
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: where Cam was born in nineteen seventy because they made
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: the joke about O'Neil traving back to ninety six, ye
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting overall.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: The guy just I just don't see age of women, mate,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: I just don't you know, you're beautiful at any age.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mentioned my wife's age. He was. He
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: was talking about when we're married for twenty years. I'm like,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Sarah will be forty six. He's like, whoa, why would
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: you age? I see nothing wrong with numbers and ages.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, did you go for the younger man? Did she?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, thank you for saying that. I'm oh, waite, look,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I've got your back, bro.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: They've been married for what ten eleven years?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: No, twelve, that's right, twelve years. Yeah, I'm a year
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: old on her yeah yeah, yeah. My next birthday is forty,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: so welcome.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: To the club. Yeah, the water will be warm and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: running a Disneyland like I did.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, well we're thinking about it.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well until until Trump did stuff. Anyway, good episode.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: I liked it. Yeah, I enjoyed it.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Fun little bit trivia when we go and see old
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: man General Lawn in command of BSGC, that terrible uniform.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm from the future.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: When you look at it before, like Rodney goes and
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: sits down when he's just standing at the doorway. There's
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: a painting behind Lawn's head. It's the painting of Atlantis
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: that he painted in Sunday. Oh, it's the actual painting.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: They are not doing a run day, so they did
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: that one. And then Mitch, you were talking the other
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: week about how Brendan and I had said, I think
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: last season it's like, oh, we don't really see much
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: from the Janni anymore. There was that blink and you'll
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: miss it sort of throw away line at the very
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: started the episode where Shepard says, oh, Leiden swears he
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: didn't put the hit on on Taylor or whatever. Leyden
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: was the there's the new head of the Jani that that.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, so we did get a we did get a
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: little reference from him.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: But yeah, other than that, I do say I have
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: say what I love about this being Martin Wood's last episode,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: he gave me one of the coolest shots I think
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: we've ever seen of the Atlantis Stargate, where right before
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: the rescue team goes to go through the gate, when
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Rodney's worrying about if he goes bald in the future
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: or not, he starts right up close to the stargate,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: like right up on one of the chevrons and then
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: pans off and it's like we just never get close
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: to that stargate like we do with the SGC one.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it was really good to be able to
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: see that really cool shot and get a really good
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: shot at the stargate. Really I'm nice and close, which
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's it. The end of Mitchell. It's the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: end of the penultimate season.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: It feels like a cop out after missing it last week.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: That's my bad, that's my bad. That's okay, this is
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: the penultimate season. We're done with season four. Man, this
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: is crazy. I'm like, I'm looking through the list, which
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: will obviously go through in the next episode doing the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: seasonal rank, but it just like I'm looking back through it,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: and that feels like a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's episode five.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Well, it's like it's been so long now, Like we
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: we did those three overlapping seasons where it literally took
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: us an entire year to do like one season of
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Atlantis and one season of SG one, and now that
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: we're just doing Atlantis again, it's just lying through, just
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: flying through it. So there's there's only twenty something episodes
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: left of this podcast. There's gonna be like the twenty episodes.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Well for Atlantis.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only gonna be twenty episodes, plus a couple
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: of Ranks and maybe a mailbag special or something like
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: that at the end.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Or something in the universe. Yeah, we'll see, we'll take
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: a break. We'll take a little break.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Eh, We'll take a little And even even though I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: keep like dragging everybody down, I'm.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Like, no, we're just push on.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: You know what's gonna happen though, You'll finish universe and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, there'll be a new Stargate
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: show that comes out.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I wrote that. I forget now who wrote the comment,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: and I apologize to you. But so one of our
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: patrons and whatever we're talking about. I said, no, No, what
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: we've done is we've timed this perfectly. Okay, with all
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: the things that have happened. We Yeah, we're gonna we're
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: gonna push on through Atlantis, We'll get through a universe
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: and by that stage, old mate Bezos will have will
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: have have pumped out. Which, Bro, Jeff, I know you're
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: in your honeymoon, buddy, Uh yeah, I know you brought
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: a small country to go and hang out for your wedding.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about your rocket ships. Three letters, M g M.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: What are we doing with some of the ips that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: you've got, specifically stargates? I heard was interested.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: I heard was interested in coming back.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Don't tell anyone, Okay, but I'm saying, is Jason's.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Free, he can already work a panel, he can run
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: a stargate.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Surely you within new Walter.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Ironically, I think you might end up being
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: like like poor Mitch is still like how long has
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: the c W Verse been been gone? Now like years
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: and you're still you're still just you know, just along.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Remember when when it.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Started was like you me, Terry.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Ben God, there was a few others, even Bronty and
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: a few others came in and we've all.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Just they didn't do the c W stuff though, did they?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think, I know, like you, me, Terry and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Ben definitely did.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't even know that you were like because
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you were like a special guest though on that right,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: you won't.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I think I was there for first season or something
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Remember that I came in after about when it was
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: just you, Ben and Terry for all, and I came
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: in and just like unloaded season's worth.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Of that's you would come in there when we were
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: the season just like all right, I've got things to say.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I just feel like, you know,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: when we when we started Atlantis, we we lost Reese.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: When we when we finished s G one, we lost Brendan.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: So it's like when we finished Atlantas and maybe I'll just be.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Craig, what's up. I'm retired now, I got time.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Why is it the guy with the most kids and
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: the you know, I'm not gonna sound the busiest, but Maddie.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Will you are compared to me?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: He was like, you're so busy all the time. You're
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: the one that's I mean, his finis this is my
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: studio without me, we're not here. Yeah, okay, exactly. I
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: am the clag.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: You are the busy. Yeah, you are the flag. You
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: are the clag, You're the Waltzer, and you are the busiest.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Because it's like you'll you'll message me I'm the.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Best at looking busy.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: No, no, You'll message me at eleven am on a
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Saturday and go all right. So I've already been down
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: and done this. I've taken the kids to three different
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: sports things, and I've taken this other one to a
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: birthday party, Bob, And I'm like, I I got up
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: in pete and then I went back to bed.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: Like my kid's six, it seems like every weekend I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: have him, We're going to birthday part yeah, which is
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: got four?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: And back in my day, twenty bucks was a standard present.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Now it's like, mate, you got to you gotta go north.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: You got thirty thirty thirties like minimum. Yeah, Like that's
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: that's a lot between four kids and the.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: Birthday party for twins next week twin girls. Dude, do
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: you split that?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Is that thirty bucks split between the two or thirty
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: two cards or one card, one.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Person, right, yeah, yeah, it's like insteader of two thirties.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: You almost just go like a fifty that they are
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: bigger fifty, that they can kind of ship.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Still, everyone wants their own, put them in the sandpit,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: make them fight for it.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's good idea, scrappy you get this
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: parenting thing, all right, we'll back next week episode two ninety.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Like even you know, we talk about Atlanta's being nearly
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: done with four seasons. In one season, we're ten episodes
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: away from another milestone. All of a sudden three hundred
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: coming out, which seems fucking wild.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Not even not even SG one did that, No, thirty
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: two hundred and something, Rather and ironic. I feel really
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: bad for Atlanta's because I think technically they're only got
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: ninety ninety.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: It was he's seeing cricket Mattie as you would know,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: like if you get out the nervous nineties.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: You know, oh sure, is that like the Terrible twos.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Or I'm in kinder right kind of?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair enough.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Everyone wants to make a hundred to get at ninety nine,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: you may as well have only got fifty.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: Have a tantrum, well, I think if they'd counted Rising
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: as two episodes, they would have gotten a hundred because
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: it's twenty episodes per season. But because they counted Rising
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: as one episode, Oh is that?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Oh no, how surely in physical media they could have
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: gotten through a technicality, right, yeah, but then you don't
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: want to do that. Yeah, post mortem, you know, you
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to go oh, we didn't celebrate it at
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: the time. But in our re release on digital, yeah,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: you know what, let's just call it one hundred. That's bullshit.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that's how Bezos is actually bringing it back. They're
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: going to do one hundred episode. Come on, come on, jee,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: we need to finish off Atlantes guys.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Sure my mom, Yeah, it's not relevant. That's how.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: That's how we're going out. That's done.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Get into the geek, get into Gee, get into gear
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Stargate podcast. Get into it now before it's too late.