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Eagles fall, Cubs force Game 5, Tom Kakert talks Hawkeyes & Mike Palm from Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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  football slash MLB playoff Friday.
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  Take a long look at Wisconsin and Iowa tomorrow night, 6 O
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  Then off to Vegas with our buddy Mike Palm, VP of Operations at
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  Bama, Bob Trent and I will take a look at some of the marquee
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  games in college football to kick off our number 2 and then
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  Eugene repay he'll recap the TJS squad they had their media day
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  Wednesday. I want to say that in obviously
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  Colorado and Iowa State with Eugene, we will make our picks.
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  Eugene with one register should add we'll make our picks before
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  we get out of here at 2:00 Thursday, October.
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  What a day in sports football game was good.
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  I didn't see I mean I didn't watch the start to finish.
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  I couldn't take my eyes off the Cubs at Wrigley Field and and
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  the Dodgers and the Phillies and just, you know, I Kirk Ring, I
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  feel terrible. Oh, absolutely, I really do.
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  I mean, just the, the panic that that overcame him.
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  That has to be it. When he fumble the ball, instead
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  of turning and throwing to first base, he decided to come home.
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  It was nowhere near Ramuto. And the winning run scored and
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  the Phillies put the bats and balls and gloves away for the
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  winner. And the Dodgers, they await the
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  winner of tomorrow night's game. American Family Insurance Field.
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  Always be Miller Park to me and I'm guessing to you.
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  But boy oh boy, what a day in sports yesterday. 2 terrific
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  baseball games. So I get a frantic e-mail from
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  one of my buddies right before Thursday Night Football starts.
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  He said what's happening with my Circ app and I explained to him.
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  So again, as you mentioned, you do have to download the new app.
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  You cannot use the old one. The new one has to be
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  downloaded. And everything transfers.
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  Yes, absolutely. Your pending wagers will.
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  There's a different. Account.
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  Yes, your your money that's in there will be in there and if
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  you have pending wagers, it doesn't show up on your pending
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  wagers. There's a different link to that
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  it's in the emails. If you didn't get it or didn't
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  think you get it, check your junk and it might be in your
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  junk e-mail drive. But on that aside, he, he, he
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  was so frustrated because he oh, man, I got to get this bed.
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  I'm like, who do you want? Who did you want?
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  These are the Eagles. Idiot circa did him a favor.
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  Come on, Thomas no, he got he got it downloaded in time, but
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  he fired away. Oh absolutely.
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  So some money went into out of that account for that one.
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  But you know, the night where Eagles, I've been saying this
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  since the beginning of the season, you.
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  Don't like? This one, something has felt
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  off, they've been out gained in every game and you can make an
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  argument this team is a lot closer to being what, in four as
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  opposed to three and two that they are now.
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  I think there's big time concerns and.
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  So no switch for them. No, no, no, no.
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  Get to the playoffs. That's all that it's about.
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  There'll be a different team. Normally when we talk about you
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  flipping that Switch, it's just because teams are are coasting.
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  I don't sense that. I go all the way back to that
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  first Thursday game against the Cowboys when we came in that
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  Friday and just said it was a vanilla game plan.
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  Didn't seem like there was a lot in it.
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  Well, now looking back, I don't think it was vanilla.
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  That's all they can do. That offensive line's not good
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  and when their offensive line is not good and they've.
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  Always had a good offensive line.
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  Saquon. OK, not always, but the last.
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  Decade, yes. Saquon is not the same guy
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  because he doesn't have the ability to get out in space.
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  They're not running him. They're not running him because
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  they know they can't block for him.
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  I think Jay Brown's bitching. As he should be.
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  He he's pissed off, you know, and I, I, I don't want to say
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  this because I know, I know it's going to the the put.
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  Who does Jackson dart in the pocket remind you of?
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  This is where I'm going. Who does Jackson Dart remind me
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  of? Who do you got?
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  Who's your comp? 15.
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  Oh my Holmes. Just his elusiveness, his
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  escapability, the way that he's able to make defenders.
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  I'm not saying he's Patrick Mahomes, that's why I hesitated.
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  But his escapability in the pocket when he's running around
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  with his hair on fire and he's not, because he's got a plan,
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  you know, He's darting to a hole and then stopping in.
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  The two defenders miss and he backs out of it, move to his
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  left or his right. He reminds me of Mahomes in that
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  regard. He's not going to get killed.
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  Well, I think so, but I think so.
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  But I think the Giants have a quarterback.
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  Trent, I think. Welcome back to the NFL, New
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  York Giants. You have a quarterback.
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  The Chiefs didn't run him 30 times in three games, though.
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  True. This is too much.
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  Absolutely. He becomes one of only three
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  quarterbacks in NFL history to rush for 30 plus yards, 50 plus
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  yards in his first three games. Lamar Jackson?
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  And who was the other than somebody else?
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  Recently. Oh, Vic.
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  No more recent. Yeah, more recent.
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  But that aside, I mean, to do that, yeah.
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  But to do it in 30 carries in the NFL, he's got to figure that
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  out quickly. No, and he can Chuck it around a
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  little bit. He's Giants who wanted a court
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  and they might have had one. I mean, the guys in in
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  Indianapolis looks pretty good, right?
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  And they ran him out of top boy. Dabel loves him, doesn't he?
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  I mean, the it's, it's almost over the top.
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  His affinity for his starting court.
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  I get it. It's job security for him, job
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  security for him. Let's go to let's go to Wrigley
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  Field last night. My God, that stadium was in full
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  throat. And it's easy to do so when
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  you're winning and you get that little bit of a cushion.
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  But my God, did Ian Hap need that three run home run in the
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  worst way, didn't he? It was a bunch of guys that
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  needed it. Tucker, Homer Shaw with the big
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  knock, Tucker, as you mentioned with the home run.
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  All those guys needed that. You give him a chance because
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  it's baseball, you know? But the other part that I just
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  love. Are you comfortable with
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  Mesorowski taking the ball or? No, I think he's better. 5-6
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  innings. Well, is he going to start?
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  Is that the plan or is he going to come in in the 2nd or the
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  3rd? I have not seen anything
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  regarding pitchers. I mean, it has to be a Monauga,
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  right? Well, is it Ray then Imanaga?
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  Maybe you go that direction. Yes, I think you do, because. 11
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  time through the order of two innings out of Ray.
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  Something like that then go Imanaga.
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  Cause two starts back they went in that direction and it worked
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  for the most part. The first start in this series
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  it did not work. Imanaga got rocked.
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  I mean Vaughn just took they were he stake him to a three
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  nothing lead and Andrew Vaughn quickly ties it in the first.
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  So maybe you get through the 1st inning as Council did the last
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  time. We'll see.
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  I've not seen anything definitive yet on the starters.
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  I do know definitively that it's a stand alone game tomorrow
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  night and it's right up against Wisconsin and Iowa.
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  So the old iPad and TV will be in working overtime.
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  Got the double screen going. Hell yeah.
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  Hell. Yeah, need to get another TV.
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  No, I, I, I, I had it and it just, I took it out.
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  Doesn't work. It doesn't work for me.
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  It's kind of like bifocals. We're back to the Piper.
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  I hate them, I can't stand them. I'm going to just have to take
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  my glasses on and off for the rest of my life I guess.
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  Anyways, good stuff. Am I crazy to think that when we
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  come back here on Monday morning, we're back on the
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  Chiefs bandwagon? No, not at all.
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  Don't. I mean, I've never left it.
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  I want to in the worst. Way.
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  Yeah, and, and just just just like feels like the Detroit
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  Lions are going to win this football game.
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  Since Week 1, I think they've looked like the best team in
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  football. They.
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  Are definitely playing at that level.
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  I don't think it's crazy to say that yet.
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  If Kansas City loses, I'm still not going to jump off the
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  bandwagon. But their schedule.
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  Yeah, but they're Kansas. City, they're, they're the
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  Kansas City Chiefs. They've they've done it from
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  playing Rd. games. They've done it.
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  They just have to get in. That's all Kansas City has to do
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  in order to be a factor. So you feel different about the
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  Eagles as you do about the Chiefs.
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  Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's not not even close
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  at all. Yeah, I think both will get in.
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  They get the Raiders, then they get the Commanders at Bills, at
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  Broncos, Colts at Cowboys on Thanksgiving.
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  That's the that's the middle of the afternoon game on
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  Thanksgiving. That's pretty good.
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  That's a good one that'll do a huge Oh my God, especially the
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  Cowboys start to hang around a little bit like the.
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  Athens is terrific. I mean, Dak Prescott's having a
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  phenomenal year. He truly is.
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  But the rest of his the rest of his squad is, I mean, that
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  defense is look what Russell Wilson did against him, for
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  crying out loud. Unbelievable.
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  All right, we're going to hear from Tom Caker coming up here in
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  about 10 minutes. Look forward to that.
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  We'll do some basketball. We'll do some football with Tom.
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  Mike Palm is coming up this hour as well.
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  We'll get we'll get Mike's thoughts on both baseball series
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  on what he expects to see stand alone game tonight, Detroit and
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  Seattle. It's not the greatest slate of
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  of college football. There is one Big 10 match up.
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  It's Rutgers in Indiana. Boy, that reeks of the Big 10,
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  does it not? Rutgers going out to take on
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  Washington? Yeah, yeah.
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  It's an odd week in the Big 10, but important games out.
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  Of important ones. No, that's it's a good week of
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  it's a good week of college football.
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  Let's take a couple of calls. Anthony Jack, your next hang in
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  there will get to you. Anthony, what's on your mind?
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  Hey, how you guys doing this afternoon?
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  Good well, I just heard some big news on the ESPN app on my phone
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  earlier today this morning and I know that he is the chiefs made
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  a big trade move from The Jets. I know they they acquired Breece
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  Hall from The Jets to the chiefs.
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  How would this how would this step will this be a good bet for
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  Breece Hall? I know the chief needs some help
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  on the office of off a bad guys. I want to.
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  Hear you. It's just rumors, Anthony.
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  Yeah, it's just rumors. Thank you.
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  Appreciate it. Yeah, it's it's not done.
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  No, it's not done. No, there there's plenty of
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  rumors out there. Well.
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  There's there's, there's three teams apparently than the Hunt
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  Chiefs are one of them. Gosh, I can't.
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  The bears have been talked. About The Bears have been talked
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  about, but there's a couple of others, too.
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  Breece Hall was asked today in his media availability with The
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  Jets about the trade rumors. He said at the end of the day, I
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  don't control what goes on. I only control what I do on the
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  field and how I handle my business off of it.
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  He hears it, A lot of people are hearing it, but there's nothing
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  official. Nothing official.
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  This is not a done deal. Got to be careful on social
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  media because there's a lot of things that or just that.
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  Houston may be one of the other ones.
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  Have you? Heard that would make.
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  Sense. I think it makes sense.
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  Let's get Jack. Hi, Jack, How are you?
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  What's up fellas, How are you? Good.
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  What's going on? Guy, I don't.
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  I mean, I've got a couple questions I'm going to throw out
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  here. Why Jared Goff isn't number one
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  in the NB AM VP race. I don't know why.
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  We are. Scoring Trent, I don't
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  understand what you see and that this Casey's team ain't going to
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  be able to stop Detroit's offense.
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  We've said this too many times in the last nine years, too many
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  times in the last nine years. For Sunday, you very well could
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  be right. Will I be shocked if the Lions
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  win at 3517? No, I'm just talking overall for
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  Sunday. That's a different conversation.
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  Yeah, they could absolutely blow out Kansas City.
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  I wouldn't be surprised by that. But I'm not going to throw dirt
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  on Kansas City. Too many people have been too
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  wrong for the last nine years to do that.
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  Myself included. Yes, I'm looking at.
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  What the forefront? You're not you're you're not
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  wrong, Trent. I guess I can't can't argue with
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  you on that. Let's go, Lions.
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  All right, Jack, thanks for the call.
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  I appreciate it. Yeah, that MVP they're.
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  Getting what, 2 1/2? Something like that, yeah.
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  So yeah, I'm surprised at the number to be honest.
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  I love Baker at the current price.
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  I liked it a lot better last week for the MVP.
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  Well, Josh Allen's still the favorite, right?
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  Let me bring it up. I think Josh Allen's still the
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  favorite. Awards I'm scrolling through and
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  finding MVP. Yes, Allen plus 150.
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  Mahomes the second choice. Baker's down to plus 650.
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  Now you can get Jared Goff at 15 to 1.
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  Good price. Good Price, yeah.
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  How about Lamar? If he comes back, puts that team
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  with that crappy defense, he's going to put up huge numbers out
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  this week, comes back the following week.
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  Aren't they dead though, Trent? No, you don't think with that?
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  Wait, you think the Steelers? No, I don't.
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  I don't think the Browns, I think the Steelers might win it
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  by default, but. They're going to win it at 9:00
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  and 8:00. Well, as long as you mean that
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  that if they win it at 9:00 and 8:00, that means Baltimore's not
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  getting in. Ten and seven.
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  Can Baltimore get to 10 and seven with a loss?
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  This week they'll be 1 and 5. OK, you know what?
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  Let's take some time. Do we have time to do this?
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  Let's do it. What the hell?
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  Let's do it. Let's take a.
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  Look, they get a bye week home for the Bears.
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  So their bye week is after this game.
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  Yes. So they're one and five.
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  So do we say Jackson's back for the Bears?
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  Yes. OK, OK, so one if so there's.
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  Two and two, yeah. At the Dolphins, 3 At the
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  Vikings. Keep going At the Browns.
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  OK, Four home for The Jets, 5 home for the Bengals, 6 home for
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  the Steelers. Let's give them a split net
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  series 7. At Cincinnati. 8.
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  Home for the Patriots. Tougher than you think.
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  At Green Bay. Let's give them 9.
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  And then at the Steelers, wrap it.
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  Let's give them 9. They can get to 10, they can
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  still win this division. They can still do it now.
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  I don't like the price. I was hoping to get Lamar like
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  more 35 to 1 as opposed to and what did you say he is 25 to 1?
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  I like it a lot better on that one to win the division.
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  Obviously, the Steelers are the well.
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  The favorite? They're not runaway favorite,
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  are they? -1 O 5.
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  And the and the Ravens are what, plus a buck?
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  What 40? 115 I'm waiting for the loss
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  this week. If you're going to play, you
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  wait for the loss this week. What's Justin Herbert Herbert
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  to? Win and.
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  MVP. Why you like burning buddy?
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  Well, I do every year on the charges.
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  Why should this should be different?
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  20 to one behind that offensive line I.
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  Have them at 28 to one. I was just wondering if the
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  numbers gone down is my guy listed?
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  Well he's listed large bow I I don't My finger is cramping as
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  I'm scrolling. See a preseason.
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  It was 50 to 1 I. Think you hit him 100 to 1.
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  I bet at the wrong time, Miller and Condon.
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  Tom Caker joins us next. Mike Palm still to come.
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  Glad you're with us. Talking sports with you on the
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  Iowa Sports Radio Network and Des Moines sports station One O
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  6.3 KXNO. Millary Condon Welcome back Iowa
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  Sports Radio Network Des Moines Sports station 106.3 KX and own
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  like Palm still to come this hour VP of operations at Circus
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  Sports Tom Kakert before he heads to Madison for tomorrow
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  evenings tilt Wisconsin and Iowa 6 O clock.
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  He joins us. As always, Tom, thank you for
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  doing this on Friday before football.
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  Can we start with basketball as starting to get excited about
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  Mccollum's team etcetera. I want to ask you first about
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  about a guy I just keep reading about every article I've read
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  about this last couple of weeks. Trey Thompson's name comes up
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  over and over and over. How good is he?
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  If there is a comparison at this point, who would that be and
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  tell me all about? That's a good question.
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  You know, I've talked to Bennett Sturtz about him yesterday and
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  he said he's really, really good.
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  They rave about the way the kitchen shoot the ball and the
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  way, you know, he plays and the effort and everything is there
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  and he goes. But he acts like he's 17
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  sometimes. He just said that with a big
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  smile on his face. You know, it's just like, you
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  forget that he's just 17 years old, and he should still be in
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  high school. He reclassified.
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  Parker would say. Yeah.
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  Or as Norm Parker would say, he should be riding a yellow bus
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  still, you know, So it was. Yeah.
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  They rave about him just that that he's going to help him this
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  year. Now, how much it's going to
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  depend on the kid and how much he can handle, but what they've
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  worked, I tell you the thing that's impressed me talking to
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  those guys, and I'm curious to talk to some of the other
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  players. Kim Maniel told me he's put on
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  20 lbs of muscle. Ben Sturtz said 10 to 12 lbs of
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  of muscle. They have gotten themselves
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  physically ready for the big 10. And here's the other thing.
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  And Trent Condon will love this comment.
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  They asked about Cooper Koch and I don't know if you've read any
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  of this stuff Trent, about Cooper, but both McCollum and
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  and the plan Bennett Sturtz I mentioned basically they lacking
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  a little bit on the defensive end you had to work on that
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  might not have been emphasized. Back in the day.
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  The previous regime, I know I I think of Trent Condon when those
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  comments come barreling out of people.
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  Yes, I think it's going to be a more aesthetically pleasing team
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  this season and certainly going forward With McCallum, I was
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  going through, you know, me and my love of numbers, and I was
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  taking a look at Bartorvic's numbers again, as I seem to do
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  2, three times a day, and one thing jumped out.
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  He is very low, at least in terms of kind of the way he
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  projects things on Alvera, Fulgaris.
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  And if Fulgaris turns out to be the guy, I think most of us
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  anticipate average 1011 points a game, you know, 7-8 rebounds,
• 18:35
  something like that, can guard inside.
• 18:38
  I think it completely changes the equation.
• 18:40
  Is it fair to say fool Garris? He might be The X Factor between
• 18:43
  this team being really good, being in that, you know, top 6-7
• 18:47
  in the Big 10 or maybe fighting for a bubble.
• 18:50
  Is it easy just to point to him? His kind of season might dictate
• 18:53
  how this whole year goes. Maybe.
• 18:56
  I think, I think he might be on to something, but here's another
• 18:59
  Bennett Stewart's comment. And Bennett's kind of an
• 19:03
  interesting character, he said, he said, yeah, I'm not sure.
• 19:07
  They had a weight room at Robert Morris.
• 19:10
  He kind of sounds like a red ass.
• 19:12
  I liked that about him. Yeah, so he was just like, he's
• 19:15
  got kind of this dry sense of humor about him that that I
• 19:20
  didn't know he had in him. And he was just, but he was
• 19:23
  firing away every once in a while with these little
• 19:26
  comments. But they really like, you know,
• 19:29
  Fogaris, the thing that that I'd heard over the summer was he
• 19:32
  might have been a little casual with the ball and everything
• 19:35
  and, and just had to kind of tighten things up.
• 19:38
  Now, I, I figured out one of the things that when, when Ben
• 19:43
  McCollum calls you a connector, that is a really high praise.
• 19:47
  And he called, told Garris that he goes, he's he's an elite
• 19:51
  connector. That means he just, he shares
• 19:54
  the basketball and he really likes his length and his size
• 19:59
  that he can get in the passing lanes and he's gotten better on
• 20:02
  the defensive end and, and really started to kind of buy
• 20:06
  into everything that they're doing.
• 20:08
  And and remember, he was and even Ben said maybe that that
• 20:12
  experience, while he loved. Being able to play for the U20
• 20:16
  team over in Spain and everything, he was kind of
• 20:19
  playing out of position. They were asking him to do
• 20:21
  things he probably wasn't ready to do, and it may have not been
• 20:25
  a great experience for him as a basketball player, but it was
• 20:29
  good for him to play in that event, obviously, and compete.
• 20:31
  But, you know, he just kind of sounded off a little bit about
• 20:35
  that, which I thought was interesting.
• 20:37
  From basketball to football squad heads to Wisconsin to take
• 20:41
  on not a very good Badgers team. I guess the question and you
• 20:45
  heard Ferris talk you've I saw the his radio show on Wednesday
• 20:50
  night just kind of listening between the lines and Trent's
• 20:53
  been on this all week that the Gronowski's probably going to
• 20:57
  play and if he plays, I would be surprised if he doesn't start.
• 21:00
  Where are you on on QB 1 heading into tomorrow?
• 21:05
  Everything I have been told, and I should mention also Pete Nikos
• 21:09
  from On Three also reported this this morning.
• 21:11
  And you know, Pete and I have been chatting quite a bit this
• 21:15
  week, different things that we've heard, but it's basically,
• 21:18
  yeah, right now. He's had a good week of
• 21:20
  practice. Not been a lot of drama
• 21:24
  surrounding it in terms of like worried about him swelling up or
• 21:29
  anything like that. Seems like everything has gone
• 21:31
  OK, but he's got to get through the warm up on Saturday.
• 21:36
  But the anticipation is that he as long as he doesn't have a set
• 21:39
  back Saturday, that he's going to be out there and be the
• 21:45
  quarterback. I think the most interesting
• 21:48
  thing is if Gronowski can't go or if he has an issue during the
• 21:53
  game, who is going into the game because you don't put that OR
• 21:58
  out there this week without there being a reason for the OR.
• 22:03
  So I would. I'm going to be curious in
• 22:06
  pregame to see who's getting the second team raps.
• 22:09
  Keep an eye on Hecklinski. Now Hecklinski, I saw that
• 22:13
  picture of all the quarterbacks a week ago.
• 22:15
  That guy is certainly not 511. I mean, are we talking like
• 22:19
  might be 5-9 and hey guys, he's 5?
• 22:22
  10 he's 510. I, I, I, I interviewed him at
• 22:24
  maybe a day, OK. So he's not a big guy by any
• 22:27
  means, but this sounds like they really like him, kind of that
• 22:30
  gunslinger type. A guy that can move around and
• 22:33
  and against Wisconsin, that feels like maybe even a better
• 22:36
  path to beating the Badgers. A guy that can move around as
• 22:38
  opposed to Hank Brown who is more of your typical pocket
• 22:41
  passer. He's he's got a little Drew Tate
• 22:46
  and I think just, you know, because Drew was kind of on the
• 22:50
  shorter side, but yeah, he's just got a little little edge to
• 22:56
  him. I think is is probably the
• 22:58
  right, right term. But yeah, he's maybe they'll,
• 23:02
  maybe they'd if in fact Kolinsky comes in, maybe they they run
• 23:05
  the slow mash. Yes.
• 23:08
  There we go. Go all slow mesh.
• 23:12
  Just wreck the whole world. I won't go on slow mesh, Yeah.
• 23:15
  That would do it. Did somebody slip saying that
• 23:18
  Vanderzee's close when you guys talk?
• 23:20
  Did have a say on Phillips. Was it Phillips?
• 23:23
  Does it sound like maybe that was the slip of the tongue?
• 23:25
  And do you expect to see Vanderzee?
• 23:28
  Yeah, I think, I think that's kind of been the the thought
• 23:31
  process all along was that he's going to, he's probably going to
• 23:35
  be suited up for for this one. So that's kind of been the
• 23:39
  target all along. So I suspect we'll see Reese out
• 23:42
  there in uniform. How much he plays, I don't know,
• 23:46
  but we'll see. But that's just another weapon,
• 23:50
  especially in the red zone for whoever the quarterback is to to
• 23:54
  utilize. And he's a good blocker too.
• 23:56
  I mean, that's one of the other things you got to remember is
• 23:58
  Reese was one of the better blockers they had in the run
• 24:02
  game. So at middle linebacker, I
• 24:05
  anticipated when we saw the Harold injury, Shired move to
• 24:09
  middle and Rex Roth would probably go outside and they
• 24:11
  just go that direction. Instead, it's going to be Jerry
• 24:14
  Montgomery's son, another Jaden. It looks like he's going to get
• 24:17
  the start. A lot of praise from his
• 24:18
  teammates on Tuesday. I thought that really jumped out
• 24:21
  there. Kirk was asked about him.
• 24:23
  He had a lot of good things to say.
• 24:24
  He's not tall, but that's OK. They've gotten by with short
• 24:28
  linebackers before. Tell us a little bit about
• 24:30
  Montgomery and, and how he's going to fit because he's going
• 24:32
  to have the old green, right? He's going to be the guy that's
• 24:34
  going to be getting the signals and hearing from Phil in the
• 24:37
  headset. How this anticipate this is
• 24:39
  going to go on Saturday? Yeah.
• 24:41
  And also of note, you know, he's a kid that grew up in Wisconsin.
• 24:47
  Yeah. His dad was working at Green
• 24:48
  Bay. So that that's another part of
• 24:53
  this angle that I think is really interesting is that he
• 24:56
  has this connection to the state of Wisconsin and he's just one
• 25:02
  of those guys that's, you know, first one in the building, last
• 25:07
  one out, just works his tail off.
• 25:09
  Do anything for the team. He's out there on special teams
• 25:11
  and he's really good player there.
• 25:13
  I know Seth Wallace loves him. I wouldn't discount the idea
• 25:17
  that Shire goes over to middle linebacker and Rex Roth is out
• 25:20
  there too. I think we'll probably, we may
• 25:22
  see that in passing downs, you know, we may see Rex Roth in the
• 25:27
  middle maybe. And because they've been, they
• 25:30
  were doing that with Jayden Harrell too.
• 25:32
  So I, I think that's something that you're going to probably
• 25:36
  see a little bit of from time to time.
• 25:39
  But they really like Jake Montgomery.
• 25:42
  They they think he's a really solid player.
• 25:45
  Oh, how? What's the biggest difference
• 25:46
  this year in entering your game, Tom?
• 25:51
  He's just playing with so much more confident.
• 25:55
  I think that's just, he just, he feels like he belongs and he's
• 26:02
  trusting himself and he's just playing football.
• 26:05
  He's flying around and yeah, he's he's a really good football
• 26:11
  player and he's just getting better each and every week.
• 26:14
  And he's just the confidence level that he's playing with
• 26:16
  right now is is the highest he's ever had in an Iowa uniform.
• 26:21
  Finally, field goal missed three misses this year from Drew
• 26:24
  Stevens. He went through obviously the
• 26:27
  tough times a couple years ago. Bounced back with a tremendous
• 26:29
  year last year. I thought it was interesting
• 26:32
  listening to Hawk Central here on KXO Wednesday.
• 26:34
  Chad Leistekow mentioned he asked to get Stevens for media
• 26:37
  availability Tuesday and that request was not there.
• 26:40
  You did too, Tom. OK, if you guys had him on the
• 26:43
  list, he didn't be there. What do we read into Drew
• 26:46
  Stevens right now in the confidence?
• 26:48
  It's 1716. Need a 41 yarder to win this one
• 26:51
  against Wisconsin Saturday. How confident are you?
• 26:55
  I am actually pretty confident and Drew I I wouldn't take that
• 26:59
  to be like he's he's avoiding things because he showed up
• 27:04
  earlier after he's missed missed field goals too so early this
• 27:09
  year and he owned them even when he probably didn't have to.
• 27:12
  When the I think the kicking game, just in general punt and
• 27:18
  and field goal miss Luke Elkin, the long snapper.
• 27:22
  I think that's something that, and I remember Lavar Woods and,
• 27:26
  you know, I was talking to Lavar before the season and I said,
• 27:29
  well, you might have like the best special teams unit, you
• 27:32
  know, with, with, with Legion and and your punter and your
• 27:36
  place kicker. And he goes, yeah, we had Elkin
• 27:39
  back. I'd say that he knew that they
• 27:42
  were going to miss him. And they have.
• 27:44
  And and there's I mean, even on that, that the field goal that
• 27:48
  he that the true missed, you could tell they didn't spin the
• 27:51
  laces. I mean, you know, they they were
• 27:54
  on the outside that just so little things like that, that
• 27:59
  and getting the ball there on time and everything.
• 28:01
  It's just, it just seems off this year for whatever reason
• 28:06
  and I think it's some of it is long snapper related.
• 28:09
  Tom Caker, hawkeyereport.com hawkeyereport.com Tom will be in
• 28:13
  the press box. He'll be on his Twitter.
• 28:15
  Keep it a surprise what's going on in the field prior to the
• 28:17
  game, of course, during the game as well.
• 28:19
  But seems like there's some lingering questions that Tom
• 28:22
  maybe you will see and report to ASAP.
• 28:24
  Thank you, Tom, we'll talk to you next week.
• 28:26
  Appreciate it. All right.
• 28:28
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• 29:21
  president of operations at circus sports who've been
• 29:23
  telling you about that new circus sports Iowa app played
• 29:27
  around with it earlier this morning Mike Trenton Ken thank
• 29:30
  you as always for coming on And as we've told our listeners if
• 29:34
  you're an existing circus sports customers you still have to
• 29:37
  download the app to get good to go.
• 29:39
  How's how's the process been Mike, as as far as the new
• 29:43
  launch of the circa happened the state of Iowa?
• 29:47
  It's been a bit of a struggle, Ken.
• 29:51
  Not all the payment processing has been on boarded yet.
• 29:55
  So there's some folks that may have used different options to
• 30:00
  cash out that don't have it available yet.
• 30:02
  We're hoping everything's up and running by Monday and then
• 30:07
  there's been some challenges with end game.
• 30:10
  It's so it's a hub and spoke model.
• 30:13
  So what they do in Las Vegas and when they take the game down,
• 30:17
  when the ending starts or when, you know, play starts in the
• 30:20
  football game after they come back from the break, there's
• 30:24
  three columns. So you have, you know, money
• 30:28
  line, runner, puck line, points, slash point, spread and and
• 30:33
  total. And what's been happening is
• 30:36
  when they take down the Nevada model, it doesn't take down the
• 30:41
  third column, which is normally point spread slash offline run
• 30:45
  line. So there's been some issues
• 30:48
  there with having to manually go in and take like four more steps
• 30:52
  to do that. We've gotten caught with some
• 30:54
  some bad numbers that were up in action happened and you know, we
• 30:58
  got if you got beat on those bats and some of them, you know,
• 31:01
  were advantageous, that's that lost.
• 31:03
  But certainly trying to iron that out so that the end game up
• 31:08
  for the full length of the of the time's out.
• 31:12
  Certainly anticipated there be some hiccups and those kind of
• 31:15
  things and you know, doing the launch here as opposed to the
• 31:18
  volume you get in Nevada or a place like Illinois certainly
• 31:21
  makes a whole lot of sense with that.
• 31:23
  How quickly do you think that you guys will kind of be able to
• 31:26
  figure out everything here in the state of Iowa now this app
• 31:29
  will be available and when we go to Nevada, we'll be able to use
• 31:32
  the same app, just change location when we're on there
• 31:35
  like you can do with some of the other apps out there.
• 31:37
  How close close to reality is that going to be happening for
• 31:39
  the other states after you get everything ironed out?
• 31:42
  Well, hopefully this is all ironed out in the next few weeks
• 31:47
  because we're going to launch the same app in Missouri on
• 31:49
  12/1, so really on 11/17 because that's when you can fund your
• 31:56
  accounts in Missouri. There's a two week ramp up
• 31:58
  period of funding and then of course the bets can't occur
• 32:01
  until right 12/1 and you have to be inside the state of Missouri
• 32:05
  to bet. So, but you're right Trent, it's
• 32:07
  one app, one wallet. Colorado will come online.
• 32:11
  We were going to try to do Colorado in November.
• 32:13
  We said let's, let's push that and make sure we get Iowa fixed
• 32:17
  in Missouri is ready to go and then we can launch Colorado and
• 32:21
  later December or January. And then Q1 next year is
• 32:28
  Kentucky, Illinois, Nevada, Nevada might not be till Q2.
• 32:32
  But then at that point, Q2 next year, it's all just going to be
• 32:35
  1 app with one wallet and you toggle your location.
• 32:39
  Well, I'm not an in game better so I've had a blast with it just
• 32:42
  playing around. So Congrats on that part, but
• 32:44
  still work to do. Let's go.
• 32:46
  Let's talk about some of the games.
• 32:48
  Baseball has been unbelievable. I feel bad for Kurkering, Mike.
• 32:51
  I do that play at the end of the game for the Phillies to get
• 32:54
  knocked out of their season on that play.
• 32:56
  Just you feel bad for the kid, The Cubs.
• 33:01
  I have to assume, good for business, that the Cubs live to
• 33:04
  fight another day. Yeah, good for business.
• 33:08
  Let's be honest, Perk Ring is going to take all the blame.
• 33:12
  But another twin who the lights were too bright.
• 33:15
  Duran walks in the Tyne run. I mean, not for that.
• 33:18
  They got the run they needed to win the game.
• 33:21
  So let's not forget that just like Barlan gives up the two
• 33:24
  homers to the Yankees the other night, right at the Twins, it's
• 33:27
  the Twins. Everything can be drawn back to
• 33:29
  the Twins. By good the playoffs.
• 33:32
  The best result for us would be Blue Jays over Cubs in the World
• 33:35
  Series. Of course it's great that we
• 33:37
  have Game 5 tonight with school for the Tigers and and then
• 33:42
  tomorrow night, obviously Game 5 Brewers Cub.
• 33:45
  Nope, no pitchers, no starting pitchers announced yet.
• 33:48
  I would imagine it's Mesirowski for the Brewers, but I'm not
• 33:52
  sure that at the Council's comments following Game 2.
• 33:55
  I don't know what choice he has, but it seems like he's hesitant
• 33:58
  to to give the ball to Menaga tomorrow night.
• 34:00
  Yeah, maybe ready to start now. Yeah, we'll.
• 34:02
  See, go that direction. It worked against the Padres,
• 34:04
  given an opener to him and then going in Menaga that way.
• 34:07
  I think that would make a whole lot of sense.
• 34:09
  Well, Speaking of that, the the betting market for Game 5
• 34:11
  tonight looks like maybe this morning there's been some steam
• 34:14
  coming back in on the Mariners. I was hoping this thing was
• 34:17
  going to get pushed up. Maybe I was going to get a + 120
• 34:20
  or 125 but not the case. You guys are of course the best
• 34:23
  price in the market, but only plus one O 5 on the Mariners.
• 34:28
  Yeah, yesterday we were. Plus 1/28 was the price
• 34:31
  yesterday. Easy.
• 34:33
  So yeah, you're seeing buyback on the home team here, which I
• 34:38
  mean, it's an interesting theory.
• 34:41
  I you know what, if the Mariners lose this series, I'd go back to
• 34:45
  them not having Brian Woo available.
• 34:47
  I think he would have gotten start already or even to have on
• 34:50
  the Game 5. To come behind Kirby is a big
• 34:53
  deal to me. I left.
• 34:57
  I have to tell you, I left the Tigers for dead down 3 to
• 34:59
  nothing in game four. They hadn't hit the ball the
• 35:01
  whole post season. They hadn't scored any runs off
• 35:04
  Miller in 22 innings at that point.
• 35:06
  Maybe, and maybe it was a bit of a quick hook, but give them
• 35:09
  credit. They force a Game 5 and you get
• 35:12
  school ball. The best pitcher in the world
• 35:15
  going for you. So I'm going to bet the Mariners
• 35:19
  1st 5 total under a run and 1/2 is the way I'm going to attack
• 35:22
  the game. You know, school was going to
• 35:24
  give you give you 100 and 10115 pitches.
• 35:27
  He made two mistakes in Game 2. That's it.
• 35:30
  They both got hit for home run, but the rest of the lineup did
• 35:33
  nothing. I mean 0.
• 35:35
  So I you have to like the chances.
• 35:37
  Now, how many runs are the Tigers going to score?
• 35:40
  I mean, you could bet, you know, bet under 3 1/2 first five.
• 35:43
  But I'd prefer not to worry about what the Tigers do and
• 35:46
  just focus on on betting this. Mike, let's go to college
• 35:51
  football. We'll do the.
• 35:52
  Look, yes, Sir, yes, Sir. Before you do, I want to I want
• 35:55
  to get your guys opinion on this.
• 35:56
  I had Chris Bennett price the look ahead's in these series.
• 36:00
  Yep. And I'm going to ask you 2 of
• 36:02
  them or you can do all four. You can do all four.
• 36:05
  But this was what I was trying to figure out because I sell my
• 36:07
  Brewers ticket at 30 to 1 and I'm thinking Dodgers, Brewers,
• 36:11
  if I want to monetize, what kind of price am I going to have to
• 36:14
  lay on the Dodgers? I think the price of Dodgers,
• 36:16
  Brewers would be. Dodgers minus $1.60.
• 36:22
  I was at -150 Was that my thought?
• 36:26
  My thought was -145 fifth, Bennett says -185 and -240 over
• 36:32
  the Cubs, of course they would have home field.
• 36:36
  And surprisingly, he has Seattle as a favorite over Toronto.
• 36:39
  Dollar 20 which yeah, I would have thought that Toronto would
• 36:43
  be favored over either team with home field in the way they're
• 36:45
  hitting the ball. And you Savage, who's
• 36:47
  unbelievable and he might get the ball in game one.
• 36:51
  What a rookie he what a what a story he has.
• 36:53
  Go ahead, Trent. Speaking of, I think.
• 36:55
  The big thing, I think the big thing Kenny, though with these
• 36:58
  the the, the Mizarowski's and the savage and Priesters throw
• 37:01
  them at home. I mean, think about I want you
• 37:04
  to think about this. From May 30th to September 18th,
• 37:09
  the Brewers won 18 consecutive Quinn Priester starts, 18
• 37:14
  consecutive starts. He couldn't get out of the first
• 37:16
  inning at Wrigley Field in the playoffs.
• 37:18
  Yeah. That environment was special. 11
• 37:20
  days rest too. I mean, it was these kids got to
• 37:23
  throw it home, I I believe. I have two tickets pending from
• 37:27
  before the year. Blue Jays at 25 to 1 to win the
• 37:30
  American League and the Mariners at 12 to one.
• 37:34
  Now do I hedge now? Do I take something on the
• 37:37
  Tigers to win the AL? Give us a little bit of inside
• 37:40
  the betting side of things here as I got a couple of great
• 37:43
  tickets and feel good about it. But there's one way I get beat,
• 37:45
  it's the Tigers. Do I do something now or do I
• 37:48
  wait for the ALCS if they win today?
• 37:53
  I don't think you get school before game three of the ALCSI
• 37:56
  think you have to like, you have to like Toronto a lot in that
• 37:59
  spot. I would do nothing.
• 38:01
  I would do absolutely nothing. And you know, if the Tigers win,
• 38:06
  you're in a better spot with Toronto.
• 38:07
  And if Seattle wins, you make a winner either way.
• 38:09
  So I would, I would do absolutely nothing tonight.
• 38:13
  Let's go to Colorado. Iowa State, 2 1/2 point favor,
• 38:17
  roughly 2 1/2 point favors. So my question is just do
• 38:20
  Colorado betters? You guys are in the state of
• 38:22
  Colorado. I lived there in the 90s.
• 38:25
  It was the end of their heyday, the McCartney era.
• 38:26
  And then Cordell comes and everybody etcetera.
• 38:29
  What what, what kind of right do you do on on Colorado Buffalo
• 38:32
  football now the Dion is there? Has there been an uptick?
• 38:36
  Nationally, not specifically to Colorado.
• 38:39
  What we really see in Colorado is Avalanche.
• 38:42
  Avalanche, not much. Rockies, no.
• 38:45
  And Broncos to a lesser degree. We get this pounded with the
• 38:49
  Avalanche money and it's been that way since we opened in
• 38:51
  Colorado. That is the real partisan sport
• 38:54
  that they bet there. I wouldn't have thought that.
• 38:56
  Iowa Wisconsin betting splits definitely the way of the
• 38:59
  Badgers. You guys are down to three.
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  It took a while to get there with some juice on that one.
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  As Iowa makes their way up, the Gordowski question still
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  lingers. Another report today.
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  What have you seen in Iowa Wisconsin betting this week?
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  The total is interesting to me. I mean, this is the lowest total
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  of the year and yet not low total for Iowans of the past
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  three or four years, right? When we saw games regularly at
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  3231 and even 29. And I watched the end game of
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  that Michigan, Wisconsin total very closely last week, like the
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  second-half was 16 1/2 and it always played like almost an
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  Iowa, Wisconsin game. The total was so it was so
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  prohibitively low it stopped me from betting it because this is
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  the assumption was that there wasn't good was only going to be
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  like one more score in the game the whole time of the
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  second-half. So I'm interested in the total.
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  I think the total isn't low enough.
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  I played it under already. I think this could, this could
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  be, barring defensive scoring, you know, 1310, that kind of
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  game. 32nd, maybe not even 20 seconds left.
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  Sunday Night Football, Detroit and Kansas City, epic game.
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  You guys are chiefs -2 you'll do a big, you'll do a good
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  business. How do you do you have an
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  opinion on that game, Mike? I think Detroit's a better team,
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  but the Chiefs are wounded. I mean they're going to get
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  thought to get the knockout punch for the playoffs here.
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  They have the longest current streak at 10 in the NFL, but I
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  like Detroit. I think throw that opening game
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  out with the new 2 new coordinators in Green Bay and
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  they've been the best team in football clearly.
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  I'm with you, Mike Palm, VP of operations at Circus Sports.
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  Circus Sports, download the app now.
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  If you're listening in State of Hwy. you've got to do a brand
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  new one. Of course, we're across the
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  river in Illinois as well, Mike. Thank you, bud.
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  We'll have a good week. We'll talk to you next Friday.
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  Thank you, Mike Palm. Thanks guys.
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  Good. Luck.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  Good to talk to you. Mike Pom, VP of operations at
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  Circus sports. So the apps still a couple of
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  hiccups. I like it.
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  I'm not an Indian. It really does huge change, huge
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  change. Need to change to be fair.
• 40:57
  Our two Bama Bob Trenton, Iowa kick it off talking college
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  football on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.