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Episdoe 73 Part I feat. Jay Jackson and Trayvon Robinson - Impactful MLB trades, AL East a Juggernaut, MLB Rookie Class · Sports Avenue Twisted Podcast

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  Music they're back once again to be in our round table today and
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  they are Co hosts of the Brushback podcast and now the
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  founder of the Small Zone app and the mentor coach Jay Jackson
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  and Trayvon Robinson. Welcome back man.
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  It's an awesome time now that baseball's back.
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  There's so much to discuss and we are looking forward to to
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  this round table. Yeah, for sure.
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  Appreciate it Rock and Rob and like I said, trade before my my
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  man, my OG, my dogs. You know, I appreciate everybody
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  having us on and, you know, being able to do this once again
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  like we always do. Yeah, happy to.
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  Happy to be back, man. Happy to get to see you guys.
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  Everybody's doing well, man. And yeah, it's not.
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  It's not I'm. Glad everyone you know that the
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  game. Is, you know, we just had
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  opening day to opening week and whatnot and it just felt like, I
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  don't know, this year just felt like spring training happened so
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  long. You know, just looking for the
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  outside. Looking in it was like, hey man,
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  when did easing all start? Yeah, I felt like it there was
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  like, you know, it was taking forever to come, but it's been a
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  while since we had you guys on. So a lot of this happened in
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  baseball and we're just we're just humbled, man, to have you
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  guys here and excited to talk baseball that now that it's
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  back. So thanks for joining us today,
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  guys. No, for sure, we appreciate you
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  having this, man. And and before I get this
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  started, I was talking to Trayvon during the World Series
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  and he's like, I just hope that we get a good World Series, man.
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  We don't want no bogus, you know, easy four games.
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  I remember I was talking to Trayvon about this.
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  I was like, damn, man. It was like, we're still like
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  pretty devastated about how that went.
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  But now the season's here, right?
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  So yeah, let's get this started here.
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  So last time you were here, we talked about traits that could
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  be impactful, that could possibly happen.
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  And we saw a few trades. We saw some big moves actually,
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  like guys like Peralta going to the Mets and Brendan Donovan
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  going to Seattle, which probably was an impactful trade too.
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  Like if you look at the list you guys had to be provided, like
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  which teams do you think benefited with those trades?
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  Trey, you want to go first? You want to go first.
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  Yeah, I, I say the Mets. I and I, I think the Mets.
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  Are going to be active all year because I think they're in
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  retaliation mode and they know what they got to get.
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  They know what they got going against them, especially in that
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  division. I.
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  Like that, Like that trade, you know what I'm saying?
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  For also going over there. And like also the trade they
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  brought Luis Robert over there because I can't.
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  It's going to that's going to be a huge track.
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  I mean he had a walk off home run the other day.
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  And I think that's. Going to be.
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  Huge for them because I think he just needed to be, he needed to
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  be healthy. But it's the.
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  Familiar. Your familiarness, I think.
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  New York will probably do him a little bit more of a service,
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  just as. Far as the.
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  Culture, the culture, life. I think, I think Chicago is a
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  great culture, a great city, big city, but.
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  I think New York is. Is a.
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  Little bit more comfortability, especially when it comes to like
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  the Latino players and stuff like that.
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  So you probably feel a little bit more at home and yeah, dude,
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  I think, I think and he's. And he's around like, you know.
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  The big the big names over there.
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  He can he can definitely, you know, you know, feed off extra
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  pay energy when he was over there with.
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  You know when they. Got rid of Bray you when they
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  got rid of McConnell, right? And they got rid of Derrick
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  O'Shea like he was the only one there.
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  So, and he, and he was relatively still like, you know,
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  I know he signed a big contract out of coming out of Cuba or
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  whatnot, but you know, he was supposed to be the thing, but he
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  was also surrounded by so many veterans and stuff.
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  Like that when you're just kind of the lone wolf there now.
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  It's kind of like. Damn, who do I need to?
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  Look who, who could I look around?
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  And also he's been battling. Injuries like crazy too, so.
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  You know, I think a fresh restart for him, I think we're
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  going to really get like we're going to get a very, very
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  underrated. Like a surprising like.
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  I'm just going to. Say the Mets are very going to
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  like Reap. From that trade, that's what I'm
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  saying. Yeah, I'm, I'm going to agree.
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  Well, I'm 5050 on the fence because that Seattle trade is
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  huge because you see how brilliant's going to come into
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  that offense already. And that's what they were kind
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  of lacking last year, right? Because Seattle's always been
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  like, their pitching's heavy. It's always been heavy.
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  Well, for the past few years it's been extremely heavy,
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  right? But if their pitching can last
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  and they can get some consistent bats out of him, that trade
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  boils down to being bigger than I think the other one.
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  But I think the Mets trade with who he has around him and if he,
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  the key with him is staying healthy, right?
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  I think both of them are staying healthy, but more with Garcia
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  staying healthy, right? I think if he stays healthy,
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  then that's huge. Well, Roberts, Roberts stays
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  healthy. Like that's huge because of the
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  people that are around them because like he's protected over
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  there more and his bats always been there.
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  It's just a matter of him playing every day.
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  But I ultimately think that the one in Seattle's going to be
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  bigger because they're missing offense to get to that next
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  level. They've been in the playoffs the
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  past couple years, unlike the Mets necessarily, right?
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  Last year was kind of their own defense last like last day of
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  the season type thing, right? But if they have the offense to
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  get through, I think they take the next step.
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  And so if he can, if he can provide consistent offense, then
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  it's a game changer for them because they that's what they
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  got Suarez there last year for, right?
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  And Suarez did not give them the consistency that he needed to
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  have. Whereas if Donovan changes the
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  game and changes the the whole trajectory for them because then
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  they're going to be right there with the Astros because they've
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  been right there battling Astros in the past couple years.
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  But we'll see what happens when it comes down to again, like
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  this, this season's long, It's 162.
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  Like it's it's going to come down to who's pitching's going
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  to hold up, who's going to stay healthy the longest in the NL.
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  E at this point is a dog fight too.
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  So how well is that going to play out, too?
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  Because is he going to stay healthy for enough games to make
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  it really matter? And if he does, where are the
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  Mets going to fall in the pecking order still with the
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  roster, They have to make that count enough.
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  Whereas I think Seattle's right there on the cusp of this was
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  the move that Mike needed to get them passed where they have been
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  the past couple years. Yeah.
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  Right, They got to, they got to win close to 95 games.
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  That's the question. Win close to 95.
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  Games and being in the AO E the Mariners.
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  AO W AO West. AOSAOS.
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  Sorry. AOS they might not need to
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  though. And I think one team comes out
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  at AOS. That's just me.
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  That's what I'm saying. I don't think they might not
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  need to. Like honestly, I don't think
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  they they might not need to because I don't think Houston is
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  going to end up being as strong as they have been in the past
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  couple years. They have to win 95 games.
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  They might have to only win, you know, 90.
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  They might have to win 9091, like they might even have to win
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  in the 80s, bro, You see what I'm saying?
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  Because I think the AL West is going to be more of a dog fight
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  this year than we're given, given the credit for it just
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  because I just don't see. I think the AL West this year is
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  going to be more like the AL Central is normally, Yeah, where
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  their dog fights again. AL Central's got a better.
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  He's going to, I think he's going to have, I think the L
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  Central's going to have two teams out of it this year again,
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  and then the ALE. Pushing.
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  I'm pushing three. I think 3 can.
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  Come out of there. So the L Central.
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  Yeah, Nah. Royals.
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  Royals. Detroit.
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  Yeah. Who else is there?
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  Cleveland. Cleveland.
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  What is Detroit? Cleveland.
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  I got Detroit and Cleveland. I got Detroit and Cleveland
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  coming out of there. If we're going to do 2 out of if
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  we're going to, I'm giving them two.
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  I'm going to say like Detroit and Cleveland.
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  And then possibly you're going to have two or three coming out
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  of the East again. And then like I said, you might
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  have, you might have 3 or 4 coming out of the out of the
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  east, bro. Like you know what I mean?
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  Like the East, like the way the way this thing sets up now is
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  crazy because you can, you can have a 500.
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  You know for sure you're going to have three come out the East.
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  Yeah, Yeah. Normally you're going to say
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  you're going to have three, but I mean, last year, what, you had
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  two, yeah, 2 and then three out of the Central, right?
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  Yeah, Usually. What was it last year with three
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  from the AL East, one from the AL West, and two was Cleveland
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  and Detroit last year. So.
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  Yeah. So that was what it is.
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  Yeah. So.
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  So I can see it being the same way this year again, you know
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  what I mean? But I see the AL West being the
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  same way but instead of it being like a higher win total is going
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  to be almost in the 80s or 90s. Just because I don't see those
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  teams, none of them are as I don't feel like are as strong as
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  they have been over the past couple years, except for
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  possibly the Mariners if like I said, that trade pans out and he
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  gets and he's more consistent than Suarez was last year.
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  I agree with what you guys are saying about about about the
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  trade you guys talked about, but there's a team I have in mind a
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  trade I have in mind that I really, really like.
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  It's it was the three team trade, including the Pirates,
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  Rays and. Matt, you stole my.
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  You stole it mine. Man, I, I told you, you knew
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  which one I was going to say, man, because I think Brandon Lau
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  is going to be such a great pick up for the Pirates.
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  He brings experience. He brings, you know, that
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  leadership that they that they need with a young team.
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  I mean, he brings power, which they which they also need.
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  You've seen what he's done just through this weekend.
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  I mean, it's only the weekend, but I think he's going to rake
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  in that in that division. And I think Pittsburgh is a team
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  that people just kind of got to watch out for a little bit.
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  You know, if they're hanging around in at the deadline, maybe
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  they make a move to bolster their team.
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  Might not be a big, big move, but they're they're a team that
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  I think if they're hanging around, maybe they could
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  possibly push for a wild card spot.
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  I just think them in Cincinnati are the two teams in that
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  division. You know, it's not like I'm not
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  that sold on the Cubs this year for whatever reason.
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  Like we can talk about that later, but I really.
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  Love the brand of my themes later for sure because I was
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  like, I'm not. I'm still not close on the
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  pirates like I. Yeah, yeah.
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  No, I get that. Because like, do I think because
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  of how opening day went and how the past couple games, the first
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  weekend's gone for them, too? Yeah, the pitching might be an
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  issue. I mean, I mean, you're not
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  wrong. They they do have.
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  People don't understand once you get like.
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  Absolutely. So you can't expect like in the
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  in the twos or in the threes this year because guys make
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  adjustments because they're pros like.
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  Yeah, absolutely. But does that translate because
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  he needed to have that one in sub 2 ERA the past couple of
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  years to get those wins? Do these new wins translate as
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  him having a three or having a 2 1/2?
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  You know what I mean? Like they were playing the wins
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  now or are they still losses? Or are they more losses than it
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  were before? Because still, with Pittsburgh
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  making these moves to try to get more offense, did they truly get
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  more offense? I think they got, I think I, I
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  think they got more offense you. Know what?
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  I mean, I well, I think they got more offense.
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  I mean, I like what they did in the offseason.
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  I just, you know, like I think I think Chicago and Pittsburgh
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  kind of have the same flaws, man, as as the pitching, you
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  know, like, I mean, I'm not. I just think that when it's all
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  said and done, Pittsburgh might have a better offense than they
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  do. Like I'm I'm just, I mean, you
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  got to think, like you said, guys will adjust.
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  Guys will you know, there, there might, you know, PCA might come
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  in and just have an average year.
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  He might not get off to that hot start he had last year, you
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  know, like because the league, the league adjusted to him in
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  the second-half. So Bregman, I don't think
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  Bregman's made for that ballpark.
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  That's just, you know, I just said, you know, I, I just, I
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  think leaving Boston, you know, like Boston and and, and Houston
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  were tailor made for his, for his strengths as a pull header.
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  But we saw what Pereiris did in Chicago and they're both pull
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  headers and he didn't do anything in Chicago, goes to
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  goes to Houston. You know, they're they're kind
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  of similar. So that's just what when it
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  comes down to those, I just I just like the Brandon Loudre.
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  I like what the Rays got from the Astros too.
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  Mike Burroughs. I'm not sure about what the I
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  don't know what the Astros are doing really.
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  But from from there, those two teams standpoint, I just like
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  the trade. I do.
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  I think that ultimately that that's going to be a big trade
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  too, because the way that in El Central's going to shape out can
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  be funky. But like I said, the Pirates to
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  me in that division, there's going to, it's going to, it's
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  going to depend on the pitching. But do they hit enough still?
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  Because the other teams in there still have good pitching as
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  well. Like you said, they give me
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  adjustments made and some of the teams are going to get their
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  some of their pitchers back throughout the year, some of
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  their main pitchers back throughout the year, right.
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  So the Pirates need to take advantage of this time.
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  Now, while they do have the hitters and their lineup is
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  where it's at to, you know, not be 1 and 2.
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  They need to they need to take at least they need to go ahead
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  and take two of the three of the of the first weekend, honestly
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  to like set the tone of the season.
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  You know what I mean, honestly. But they.
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  Got to do, they got. To do some, they got to do
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  something like. Extraordinary like, like they
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  got to, they got to run through every, everybody they come
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  across. Right now, I mean, it's going to
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  be, I mean. It's just because they'll bounce
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  it out a little bit later. On.
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  You know, if they have a good team.
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  If they have a good start. Good start of the first half or
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  whatever, you know. Then it'll make a it'll be
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  attractive to. Get those because they're going
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  to have to make trades, dude. They're going to have to.
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  They want to get on with that, how to get into the playoffs.
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  I mean, I'm like, I'm with you. I'm not really sold on them
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  either like. Just because they do got the
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  best. Picture in the NL right now,
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  right? But at the same time like you're
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  not going to have a 2. 21 ball. Game, you know what I'm saying?
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  80 times out of the year. And you expect not to.
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  Lose at least like you know, 40% of them just because you don't
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  have any kind of offense. Like you know what I'm saying?
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  So. They're going to have to.
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  They're going to have to. Figure it out.
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  Because he's not throwing five games, he's not throwing all.
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  Every game during the weekend series, like, you know what I'm
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  saying? So they're going.
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  To have to like. They're going to have to put
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  their. Points to.
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  I mean put everything. Together to where they're
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  they're. Going to have to make themselves
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  attractable to get to the playoffs, you know what I'm
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  saying? They're going to have to do it
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  now. I mean, while they're, I don't
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  know what their schedule's like. You know right now but.
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  I mean, they're going to have to take advantage if they got to go
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  to Oakland, if they got to, I mean, not Oakland, Las Vegas, I
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  mean Sacramento, those lower tier teams, they're going to
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  have to just. Try to run through.
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  Them like if they go to Houston, not saying Houston's not a.
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  He's still a good team. But you know what I'm talking
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  about. Like.
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  They they have to win those ball games.
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  If they just can't go in and be like, OK, well, yeah, we'll
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  we'll win one out of three. It's like, no, dude, you got to
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  go in there and take two out of three every single time.
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  I mean, at least take one for the Yankees if you go to the
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  Yankees or anything like that. The team that they know.
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  That like yo, you're. Going to get your ass whooped,
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  but like a team that's kind of like iffy.
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  You got to win two out of three because it's going to make them
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  more attractive when it comes to the to the the All Star brand.
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  You know what I'm saying? And that's just me personally.
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  I really think that they have to knock down a wall down in order
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  to track those type of those type of pieces.
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  They propel them into the post season because they ain't going
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  to do it. I don't think they're they're
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  they're just not they're just not very, you know what I'm
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  saying? They're they're young.
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  They're. Impressive.
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  No, but for no. But for what?
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  Young guys? Yeah.
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  But from what they gave up for Brandon Lowe, I thought it was a
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  pretty damn good trade for them. If you think about it, like, I
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  mean, they're trying to make moves with whatever they can.
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  They're only going to have Paul schemes for a certain amount of
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  time because I mean, everybody knows they're not going to re
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  sign them. I mean, it's pretty pretty much
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  what you know, everybody thinks. So he's not going to be there
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  long term. So they're going to have to try
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  to do whatever they have to do to win.
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  You you guys might be right. They might be a year early, but
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  I still like the trade. I still like what they did
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  there. I think it's.
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  Yeah. No, I don't.
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  I mean that that trade, that trade is, is huge.
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  You know what I'm saying? It it gives them something to be
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  like well. We got some juice.
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  We got some juice now. I mean, you also got O'Neill
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  Cruz. O'Neill Cruz gets going.
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  You know, now you got a center fielder.
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  That they could possibly be an all starter like you know what
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  I'm saying? They can play infield too.
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  I don't know why they're he just won't be a utility guy, but they
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  keep him in an outfield. He could be down here.
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  They're not if they're winning, if he's having if he's having it
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  down here and they're winning, he could be a guy that they can
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  move. You know what I'm saying?
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  So you can, you can always, you can always boost it a bullpen or
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  boost it a certain rotation or whatever they can do.
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  I mean ever you want to do, especially when it comes to
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  those type of position players and stuff like that.
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  And he, and he's affordable too, you know.
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  Absolutely, Yeah. I mean, they brought it.
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  They also brought in like Marcelo, Zuna and, you know, a
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  few other guys that, you know, Ryan O Ryan O'hearn.
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  Another good one, right? Like if, if those guys can hit
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  like they have in their previous years, then, you know, maybe
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  that offense could be a little, little sneaky, but.
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  Well, to me, they got to bring up Connor.
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  They got to bring up Connor at some point, right?
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  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know, I thought, you know, I
• 19:25
  know he struggled in in spring training, so we'll see what
• 19:27
  happens there. But yeah, I mean, you, you could
• 19:31
  be right though. They could be a year, year or
• 19:33
  two away. But yeah, also like.
• 19:36
  Well, you know what I mean. I think maybe the Red Sox
• 19:40
  pitching approach though, right? For trades, yeah, with Sunny
• 19:46
  Gray getting Sunny and then getting, you know, Ovito, yeah,
• 19:53
  yeah, yeah. They're going to need those
• 19:56
  depending on how, again, the A Elise is the big boys.
• 19:59
  Like if they Sonny's built for it, I believe, like he's going
• 20:02
  to love being there. But it depends on you how Johan
• 20:07
  plays. It depends on Wilson.
• 20:09
  It depends, you know, on these other pieces because they can
• 20:13
  be, again, that third team out of the A Elise that we're
• 20:16
  talking about, Right. And if they get hot in October?
• 20:21
  There's their there's their World Series again, right?
• 20:24
  So I think that's going to be big for them is the pitching
• 20:28
  aspect. I think the Mets getting Freddy
• 20:31
  Peralta. But it's like, what do you do
• 20:35
  now? Like with Freddie?
• 20:37
  Like where? Where's the rest of that
• 20:38
  rotation go to, though? Because after McClain.
• 20:40
  Yeah, after Freddie McClain. That's a good question, right?
• 20:43
  Like they actually Holmes, right.
• 20:45
  But. Mcclain's not a yeah, Mcclain's
• 20:48
  not this like, for sure thing either, man.
• 20:51
  That's what. I'm saying he's not.
• 20:52
  He's he's still young. He's yeah, it's just a matter of
• 20:57
  like they need their staff because they spent the money on
• 21:01
  they spent the money on the staff.
• 21:02
  But again, like I said with the Blue Jays, we're going to see,
• 21:05
  we'll we'll talk about that later, too.
• 21:07
  Yeah, we'll talk about that later.
• 21:08
  There's a lot. We'll we'll see how, you know,
• 21:11
  their acquisitions on the pitching front pan out because
• 21:14
  like you see a lot of times great pitching beats, great
• 21:19
  hitting regardless all day, all day.
• 21:22
  So like these acquisitions that some of these teams made for the
• 21:25
  pitching aspect of it. But again, like I say, even with
• 21:28
  the pitching acquisitions these teams did make, you still have
• 21:32
  to look at the the development of the pictures they already
• 21:34
  have there. Like are these guys going in
• 21:36
  with that development mindset? Did these guys that they brought
• 21:39
  in fit into the mold and the model that they're trying to
• 21:43
  have of a pitching staff that's working too, you know what I
• 21:45
  mean? Or was it just about the money?
• 21:48
  There's a lot of different aspects of these things that go
• 21:50
  in because you could have signed the right guy for the wrong
• 21:56
  staff. You see what I'm saying?
• 21:59
  Yeah, that's for a lot of these guys too, right?
• 22:01
  Like, look, look, you know, you know, a team like Milwaukee, and
• 22:05
  this is intrigues me with Milwaukee.
• 22:07
  They made some some interesting deals.
• 22:09
  Like you said, you traded Peralta to the Mets.
• 22:12
  You go get Brendan Stroud and Jet Williams, and then you flip
• 22:15
  Durbin for Kyle Harrison and and you traded Isaac Collins and
• 22:20
  Nick Mears for Angel Zerpa, who was actually great in the WBC.
• 22:25
  Holy smokes. But yeah, man, like, it's like
• 22:28
  you look at the Brewers, they always find this like devil's
• 22:31
  magic. They say like fine guys, refined
• 22:34
  guys, like they've been winning divisions with what they're
• 22:38
  built with no matter who they trade.
• 22:39
  They traded Corbin Burns, they let go.
• 22:41
  Well, the Adamas, I mean, their track records, like, OK, we're
• 22:45
  going to go get guys who are probably close to ready and
• 22:48
  we're going to make sure that they're they're going to become
• 22:50
  factored, right. And I'm curious on those trades
• 22:54
  for Milwaukee because because you know how they operate,
• 22:57
  right? Like they won the division the
• 22:59
  last couple years and they always trade guys and they still
• 23:03
  find guys and they always have guys in their system.
• 23:06
  And knowing that team, you know, they'd see Christian knowledge
• 23:09
  today, man, pinch hit three run, go ahead shot right.
• 23:12
  I mean, Milwaukee still there too, right?
• 23:15
  So you can never rule out Milwaukee what they do with
• 23:17
  these trades because somehow, some way when they mentioned it
• 23:21
  player, it's like Azerpa or Brendan Sprout or Kyle Harrison.
• 23:25
  They're going to be in the rotation and sooner or later
• 23:28
  they're either going to be in the frontline starting pitching
• 23:30
  with Mesoroski or they're going to be in the mid tier rotation.
• 23:32
  So I'm curious to see what Milwaukee is all about this year
• 23:35
  because they're open is still really good.
• 23:37
  So, and their offense is going to be what their offense is
• 23:41
  going to be, right with the Contreras, with who's on the IL.
• 23:44
  They have Garrett Mitchell, they have guys, they have guys, they
• 23:49
  just, they just do their thing. But the question is how do they
• 23:52
  go over the top and try to take it to the next step after the
• 23:56
  NLCS? Like how do they get to the
• 23:58
  world? That's always been the question.
• 24:00
  But Milwaukee is always intriguing with trades all the
• 24:02
  time. But they also, yeah, like I
• 24:04
  said, like they're, they're also going to have to be 1 of the
• 24:06
  teams that's going to, I mean, because people are going to want
• 24:08
  to go after. Some of those.
• 24:10
  Players they got, they got better, they got better
• 24:12
  attractive players over there. So they're definitely, they come
• 24:14
  out the gate and it's going to be market, you know what I'm
• 24:19
  saying? They're marking yourself to
• 24:20
  propel over that, that little hump that they've been trying to
• 24:23
  get over. You know what I'm saying?
• 24:24
  So. That's that's another team.
• 24:26
  I mean I. Don't know.
• 24:27
  I don't know what Saint Louis got, but.
• 24:29
  You might. Plug some guys from Saint Louis
• 24:31
  they got. I know they got some decent
• 24:32
  young players over there too. Yeah, I like Saint Louis's
• 24:36
  future. I mean, they got the right guy
• 24:38
  running that team, too, right? Came.
• 24:39
  Yeah. I love their future.
• 24:41
  The Red Sox, the way they draft is because of him, so that, you
• 24:46
  know, think about where baseball's going and we'll get
• 24:48
  to the rookie stuff later on. Like we'll get it pretty soon,
• 24:51
  but like, it's just, it's a young man's game right there.
• 24:54
  A lot of guys are depending on the young kids that are out
• 24:56
  there. There's so many rookies out
• 24:57
  there. And like you guys said prior to
• 25:00
  the recording, we were talking about like making adjustments
• 25:02
  and stuff. But I mean, how impactful are
• 25:04
  they going to be? Like Mclean's a rookie, Carson
• 25:06
  Benz a rookie for the Mets. And besides the guys they got,
• 25:08
  they got the boat with sheds and all that.
• 25:09
  We'll talk later about that. But like, how important is that
• 25:14
  right when you make a deal like, for example, Owen Casey, like
• 25:17
  the first three games he's been great.
• 25:19
  And he was he was with the Cubs last year.
• 25:21
  He got traded for Edward Cabrera.
• 25:22
  Like it's Edward Carrera going to be anything for the Cubs
• 25:25
  because they gave up quite, quite a bit for for for the
• 25:29
  Marlins for Oh, like as Oh, in case he's part of that deal.
• 25:32
  You think Ed Carrera could be anything?
• 25:38
  He's got to be right. I mean they wouldn't straight
• 25:40
  for him if he's not. But I mean, I think he'll be
• 25:44
  good. He's gonna, he's got a great
• 25:46
  arm, right? So he's been successful with the
• 25:50
  Marlins when he's been healthy and has the right people around
• 25:53
  them. And I think that it'll be fine
• 25:57
  because they needed the they needed the pitching.
• 25:59
  Yeah, they do. So I think that was the main
• 26:04
  thing, what they were trying to do there and having another
• 26:06
  rotation piece and trying to sure up everything that they're
• 26:10
  doing over there. But at the same time, he looks
• 26:16
  good right now, right? He looks good right now.
• 26:19
  So it's crazy. But again, but again, like the
• 26:24
  track records are still different.
• 26:26
  Like you still can project him to be good after a few weeks
• 26:30
  where Cabrera still has a longer track record of success to a
• 26:33
  certain degree. And you're going to have to see,
• 26:36
  you're going to have to weigh your options.
• 26:38
  And their options were OK, we can go find another case almost
• 26:43
  right to the point of we can't go get another career, right?
• 26:47
  That's the way you have to look at these trades to a certain
• 26:49
  degree. For me, is OK one person like
• 26:53
  OK, do they feel like they can go replace this person or do
• 26:58
  they feel like they need this other person?
• 27:00
  Like if I need this one person, doesn't matter what the team is.
• 27:03
  And I feel like he can fit the team to get us over the top and
• 27:06
  we can get rid of this other person that we feel like we
• 27:09
  might be able to replace or find another of relatively soon.
• 27:14
  Then why would we not do it? If we can't do it, then it's
• 27:18
  going to either take more or we're just not going to do it.
• 27:22
  I feel like that's got to be what you think of at the bottom
• 27:24
  one. But these guys, again, I don't.
• 27:26
  So you have a lot of people that don't, they're good at the
• 27:31
  business aspect and good at the, you know, analytics of it and
• 27:35
  piece of stuff like that together.
• 27:36
  But I don't know how well they might be necessarily with
• 27:40
  piercing teams together of what the team actually needs to that
• 27:44
  certain degree. And then piercing the team
• 27:46
  together to what the team needs. And then piercing the team
• 27:49
  together with that person that mentally and, you know,
• 27:53
  emotionally fit the team as well in that same person.
• 27:57
  I don't feel like they do They take, they try.
• 27:59
  I feel like they try to take that all into account.
• 28:02
  And I give them credit that maybe they do and I'm missing
• 28:04
  something. But from what I've seen in
• 28:06
  certain organizations I've been with and certain moves that are
• 28:09
  being made, a lot of times I have to question, like, did they
• 28:12
  factor in everything they needed to actually try to make this
• 28:15
  team get over the hump to get to again, a World Series or get to
• 28:20
  the playoffs where the organization and the team can
• 28:24
  make more money and bring more fans in and do what they're
• 28:28
  trying to do ultimately on the bottom line for their business
• 28:32
  as they as it seems, right? Yeah, that's true.
• 28:39
  And certain teams we'll get to later on, like they don't want
• 28:42
  to give up their top assets to go get certain players.
• 28:45
  Like can't tell. Marte would have been a big
• 28:46
  name. And I know that Boston checked
• 28:49
  in on him and they they were asking for so much for him,
• 28:52
  right. So, but I mean, but you have to
• 28:55
  right, Hell, you have to like he's still, he's still got a lot
• 29:00
  of time and a lot of good baseball left in him where if he
• 29:02
  goes, I mean, you think about him playing in Boston with the
• 29:07
  Pesky Pole in the wall and he's a switchy.
• 29:11
  Like he might, he might hit 50 a year there.
• 29:18
  Yeah. He's just, he's the best, second
• 29:19
  best baseman in the sport. Like I know, but you see what
• 29:22
  I'm saying? Like if you put him in Boston
• 29:25
  realistically, and he catches fire at some point in time, he
• 29:30
  he's liable to hit 10 from both sides in a month.
• 29:34
  Yeah, maybe in playing there, like I'm saying, he's liable to
• 29:38
  hit 10 anyway from both sides of the month.
• 29:40
  But playing there, he's liable. He might hit 15 from both sides
• 29:44
  in a month. Right.
• 29:46
  And the thing about him is like, he he's a game changer, too.
• 29:49
  Switch hitter, you don't find. I mean, Josier Ramirez is
• 29:53
  probably one of the best switch hitters out there.
• 29:56
  But I mean, Kendall Martez, what?
• 29:58
  Right up there, too. Like, you don't.
• 30:01
  Yeah. And his defense is great.
• 30:03
  And you know, The thing is, Arizona, it seems like we're
• 30:06
  going to try to see where they go when we do our predictions
• 30:08
  and stuff. But like, Arizona keeps trying.
• 30:11
  They keep trying. They try.
• 30:12
  They get Arenado and look, I, I don't know how much time Arenado
• 30:17
  has left in his part years left because he's he's not getting
• 30:20
  any younger. I mean, he could still play some
• 30:22
  defense, but I don't know what how that bat plays.
• 30:24
  But I know Arizona keeps trying to compete, but especially when
• 30:27
  you have the Dodgers in that division.
• 30:29
  So I don't know where where Arizona's at.
• 30:33
  Yeah, I mean everybody in that division.
• 30:35
  Dude, you just got to play for a wild card.
• 30:37
  I mean, that's. Just what it is.
• 30:39
  Like it is, it is what it is. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 30:41
  Like it's just kind of like, well, we know the stove is hot,
• 30:44
  we're not going to touch it. We're just going to go somewhere
• 30:46
  else, like you know what I'm saying?
• 30:47
  So. Yeah, no, that's for sure.
• 30:52
  So I want to ask you guys about last year, some teams that
• 30:57
  ultimately came up short from making the playoffs.
• 31:02
  And there there were some teams that came close and in like
• 31:06
  Houston and Texas and you know, in that division, the Mets just
• 31:11
  missed the playoffs. So you know, you know, Kansas
• 31:16
  City. But give us your guys who you
• 31:20
  guys think could bounce back heading into this season and
• 31:24
  possibly fight for whether it's a wild card spot or even a
• 31:27
  division. And which league is more
• 31:29
  competitive in your opinion? I mean from I mean teams that
• 31:36
  are going to bounce back, I feel like the Mets are going to be in
• 31:40
  there for sure. Like I feel like they're going
• 31:42
  to bounce like they've been so close every year, right?
• 31:44
  They've just had these second-half swings, right?
• 31:48
  I feel like this year's the year that they figure it out and it's
• 31:53
  going to be a dog fighting. They're all going to beat each
• 31:54
  other up. But I feel like they get in this
• 31:56
  year for sure. I guess I feel like Kansas
• 32:00
  City's on the outskirts. I still feel like I feel like
• 32:05
  they they're still on the hump, but they're not getting over it.
• 32:09
  And I feel like we're talking about there might be one, there
• 32:12
  may be two. There's going to be a dog fight
• 32:14
  for that second, that last wild card spot between a team in the
• 32:18
  AL Central and a team in the AL West, right?
• 32:21
  Like it was last year. And I don't know which one's
• 32:24
  going to come out of it. I'm still trying to wrap my
• 32:26
  brain of like who I can see figuring that out, but I really
• 32:31
  feel like the Mariners are going to be team that gets in this
• 32:34
  year. Like they switch it on.
• 32:36
  Like I said, if Donovan can be healthy, be consistent and
• 32:41
  figure that out, if they I feel like he changes enough where
• 32:44
  they actually end up getting in somehow.
• 32:46
  And that's what I'm trying to figure out right now is how I
• 32:48
  want to say they get in because they're going to battle somehow
• 32:53
  in the AL West. And then they might be the team
• 32:55
  that's skates out of there barely or are they the second
• 32:59
  wild card team that gets in to see what's in.
• 33:01
  But it's going to be interesting to see.
• 33:07
  I think the the league, the the toughest league is always going
• 33:10
  to be the allies. The allies, the NL, WI think
• 33:14
  will be interesting this year depending on how the
• 33:18
  Diamondbacks end up playing. I don't see I see the dodgers
• 33:22
  obviously in a winning it, but I feel like that other wild card
• 33:27
  spot coming out of the NL W is going to be a dog fight between
• 33:30
  two or three team. So I feel like that's going to
• 33:32
  end up being another interesting series and another interesting
• 33:35
  division. But ultimately, again, the AL
• 33:38
  East is going to be it's going to be the one.
• 33:41
  It's going to be interesting to see how the the Blue Jays
• 33:43
  pitching holds up through this whole season and see how the Red
• 33:47
  Sox and the Rays and the Orioles kind of play.
• 33:50
  You know, I feel like the Blue Jays and the Yankees are both
• 33:53
  going to fight it out for what the team that intrigued me is
• 34:00
  the is the Marlins. Like, what are they going to do
• 34:05
  this year? I like what they're doing right
• 34:07
  now. They got a nice young team,
• 34:10
  right? What they're built with, right?
• 34:11
  Like I like the Xavier Edwards. They got Joe Mack coming and
• 34:14
  they said August Ramirez could be a bat, maybe put a different
• 34:18
  position. I like their outfield with
• 34:20
  Marcy, Marcy, Owen, Casey and Stowers, who's on the IL and
• 34:26
  their pitching is, I mean, Sandy needs to be healthy, right?
• 34:28
  Like, are they going to trade them?
• 34:31
  Are they going to are they going to keep them and let it ride and
• 34:34
  see if they could probably tweak some things to do some things
• 34:37
  this year and make some noise because they were in the
• 34:40
  playoffs, what, a couple years ago, 2-3, three years ago in
• 34:43
  that wild card round, I think against the Phillies.
• 34:45
  But they lost to the Phillies. I think that serious.
• 34:47
  But yeah, I mean, I like what the Marlins are doing right now
• 34:51
  and I'm intrigued to see what what they can do moving forward.
• 34:57
  I want to I want to just put this in there about the Marlins.
• 35:00
  I mean, they are the Marlins. It's still the first.
• 35:05
  It's still the first week. Yeah.
• 35:08
  Like, for me, for them, they're always going to have Sandy.
• 35:11
  But then after Sandy again, like, where do you really go?
• 35:16
  Well, the the the problem is their health, right?
• 35:18
  Like Yuri Perez, like, I mean, they've been talking about for
• 35:20
  years about him. OK.
• 35:21
  He had Tommy John, like Max Mayer.
• 35:24
  I think he's going to, he's going to make it start this
• 35:27
  week. Braxton Garrett got sent down.
• 35:30
  They traded Ryan Weathers to the Yankees.
• 35:33
  They signed Chris Paddock. I think this offseason just have
• 35:39
  to see. What Max started today, it was 5
• 35:43
  innings, pitch, five hits, three runs again for sure.
• 35:48
  Every developing who like, there hasn't been like the guys that
• 35:52
  should have been there to help develop the guys and figure out
• 35:56
  how the system was going to develop over there.
• 35:58
  They all left because they didn't like how things were
• 36:00
  being ran. You know what I mean?
• 36:02
  Yeah. Like if you have Derek Jeter and
• 36:05
  certain people leave and you bring in people just to kind of
• 36:07
  fall in line to what you want to do, I don't know if that's
• 36:11
  necessarily a level of success that you're looking at.
• 36:15
  I mean, I get that you want to be like in your own thing and
• 36:18
  run it your way. But when you have the bait, when
• 36:21
  you start like, again, losing the baseball, people in
• 36:25
  baseball, like that's tough, right?
• 36:28
  So I'm not saying that I, I want to see more of what happens with
• 36:32
  the Marlins, but you have to take into account that it's the
• 36:36
  first week, it's still early, it's 162 games and they played
• 36:40
  the Rockies. You know what I mean?
• 36:44
  Like those, those, those factors alone right there.
• 36:49
  I'm not discrediting them because a win's a win, but at
• 36:52
  the same point they played the Rockies and the Rockies need a
• 36:57
  lot of work done. Both like those two out of three
• 37:01
  games barely, you know what I mean?
• 37:05
  Like, so that shows you what kind of level they're both on.
• 37:07
  Like for me, yeah, they're they're they're fighting each
• 37:12
  other. Like those things are fighting
• 37:13
  each other. Those are the 2 closest.
• 37:15
  Like they're fighting each other.
• 37:17
  Yeah. Absolutely.
• 37:19
  I mean. Yuri Perez is interesting too.
• 37:22
  I don't know if you mentioned him or not, he's just a guy who
• 37:24
  can't stay healthy, but he absolutely has the stuff to be
• 37:27
  an ace. 100% Yuri's nasty. Yeah, but like I said, if you
• 37:33
  look at those games like 2132 and 3, two right, like those
• 37:40
  teams are who's going to be, they match up well against each
• 37:44
  other first week of the season. If you want to go off of
• 37:47
  anything for me, you see where teams are at against each other
• 37:50
  more than anything else in the first couple weeks because teams
• 37:54
  are seeing guys for the first time.
• 37:55
  Teams are, you know, guys might be ready for the season, guys
• 38:00
  might not be. You have your rookies up, might
• 38:02
  be ready. You have your other guys like
• 38:04
  pitchers might be coming off injuries but had to make the
• 38:07
  team. But you see where every team
• 38:09
  kind of is against each other at this point.
• 38:12
  Like, OK, if you think a team's middle of the pack like and they
• 38:17
  face another team and the game's close at this point, that's kind
• 38:19
  of like, OK, like these are where these teams are right now
• 38:22
  together. Like this is who's fighting who.
• 38:24
  Like, so you look at it, you know, the Cardinals and the Rays
• 38:28
  were close kind of on the weekend.
• 38:31
  That's kind of who's fighting. Yeah, that's true.
• 38:38
  Yeah. What's that like?
• 38:42
  I agree with you. And it's something like the
• 38:44
  small market teams. I like to see them be more of a
• 38:48
  thing. Like, you know, Cleveland's
• 38:50
  going to be Cleveland doing their thing.
• 38:51
  Tampa. I mean, I don't.
• 38:54
  I don't really see Tampa going anywhere this year.
• 38:57
  I mean, they'll be pesky, they'll compete against teams
• 39:01
  they'll they'll be, but I think they're they're regrouping for
• 39:05
  for the next set of guys like that.
• 39:06
  I think that's what's their plan is like.
• 39:08
  I like to see Pittsburgh do make some noise this year, like when
• 39:12
  you have a skiing, you have Jared Jones coming back.
• 39:15
  You got, I think Barco, right, made the roster too, I believe,
• 39:19
  right? So they have some intriguing
• 39:22
  names. I think the bullpen's a better
• 39:23
  problem. But Mason Montgomery looked like
• 39:25
  he was dealing today against the Mets, Man, that's a sneaky pick
• 39:29
  up from the Rays as well, right? Like I like to see Pittsburgh do
• 39:32
  something, but to me with that team and look, they got Connor
• 39:35
  Griffin coming up. I like to see O'Neil Cruz
• 39:38
  finally put it together, man. I saw he did some work in the
• 39:41
  WBC. The guy has a talent, but he
• 39:44
  just can't put it together for some reason.
• 39:47
  Like he has all the attributes. Well, I mean, again, it's we
• 39:52
  have you have to take into consideration like he's a big
• 39:55
  leaguer. Like it's tough to play in the
• 39:57
  big leagues regardless. You can have all the talent in
• 40:00
  the world, but you're still playing in the big leagues
• 40:03
  against the best of the best and it's still having to play
• 40:07
  together, right? Like mentally, physically.
• 40:10
  Emotionally, like these things go like again, are you making
• 40:13
  the right adjustments? Are you doing the things like,
• 40:15
  or maybe that's just what he has.
• 40:18
  That's just who he is. So OK, that's who he is.
• 40:21
  How do you make the use of being that person at that point?
• 40:24
  Like, OK, you're trying to fix them in every way, shape or
• 40:27
  form, but you still keep getting the same result.
• 40:29
  OK, well, if this is who he is, let that be comfortable and
• 40:34
  figure out how can we extract the best out of it.
• 40:36
  OK, if he's a 24250 hitter, OK, how can we extract the best out
• 40:41
  of this 24250 with 4550 bags or whatever else it is?
• 40:46
  How do we extract the best out of that?
• 40:48
  You know what I mean? But like I said, the big leagues
• 40:52
  is hard regardless. That's why the Hall of Fame.
• 41:05
  Seven times out of 10, you mentioned teams like the
• 41:08
  Pirates, maybe Arizona, maybe the Marlins.
• 41:12
  It all depends. Like which team do you think
• 41:14
  that Mister Players could have a chance to compete this year?
• 41:17
  Yeah, Before I cut out, I was, I was talking about the Mets.
• 41:19
  I think. I just think the Mets are.
• 41:21
  All Yeah, yeah, the Mets. You know.
• 41:22
  What I'm saying, I think I think they're a little bit they're
• 41:25
  they're active. The you know, they, they got
• 41:29
  some guys, you know what I'm saying?
• 41:30
  They spent a little bit of money.
• 41:32
  They actually spent some some money.
• 41:34
  It's been pretty good money and they made a lot of upgrades.
• 41:37
  And I think the, you know, the NL, the NL E is definitely a
• 41:42
  three headed dragon in that division to where it's going to
• 41:45
  be kind of a dog fight. But I, I, I think there's still
• 41:48
  probably going to be two that's coming out of that division.
• 41:52
  Yeah, it'll be two. Somebody's going to miss it, but
• 41:55
  I, I think the Mets are going to be in.
• 41:58
  I'm not saying that Philly. Philly is still a, you know,
• 42:02
  there's still a veteran, veteran team, you know what I'm saying?
• 42:06
  They still know what everybody it's all going to depend on for.
• 42:09
  For their health. You know what I'm saying is
• 42:10
  going on with Philly right now though, huh?
• 42:13
  They need, they need Zack. They need Zack bad like back
• 42:17
  bad. Like I look, Christopher is an
• 42:19
  animal. Like he's top pitcher in the
• 42:22
  gap. We know that, but I mean you
• 42:24
  Andrew Painter rookie unprove it right, Jerry Nola, I mean, he
• 42:30
  kind of struggled to it. Lizardo gives up.
• 42:32
  He gives up home runs, man. I don't.
• 42:34
  Know he'll strike guys out, but yeah, he's struggling.
• 42:37
  He gives up home runs. I don't know what's his issue.
• 42:39
  Like there's moments he domains, the moments he's strong.
• 42:41
  They no longer have Ranger. He was a reliable guy for him.
• 42:44
  He's gone to Boston now, so it's going to be some question marks.
• 42:47
  And they traded Matt Strom to Kansas City, which, yeah, he got
• 42:53
  trading. He was one of the durable guys.
• 42:55
  Like, yeah, I don't think he was happy with this role or
• 42:58
  something. Like he had a good contract,
• 43:00
  too. So that kind of shocked me, too.
• 43:02
  And then, no, I think Ryan Kerkering, he's on the Illinois.
• 43:05
  And I mean, Duran is great. I mean, John Duran, John Duran.
• 43:09
  It's just that you got to get there to have leads, right?
• 43:12
  I don't know. They might be, They might be.
• 43:14
  I mean, their team is not getting any younger too, right?
• 43:17
  That's another thing to factor in.
• 43:18
  Like they paid a lot of money to bring back Schwarber.
• 43:21
  Bryce. I mean, his last year, he didn't
• 43:24
  have the Bryce type of season he had in the past, right?
• 43:27
  Trey Turner. I mean, but it was still a damn
• 43:29
  good. I mean, I thought it was a damn
• 43:30
  good year. It's still a good.
• 43:31
  Year, wow, it was a great year. It was a great year.
• 43:34
  It was a great year. But that's what I'm saying.
• 43:36
  I don't think it's a lot of what I'm saying with them is going to
• 43:40
  be the talent. I think it's the underlining
• 43:42
  stuff that's going to be the professor of the team that's
• 43:45
  going to crack, like lead to the cracks of that team with the
• 43:49
  little tensions with Bryce and Dombrowski at the beginning of
• 43:53
  the year, like all the other little stuff going on, right?
• 43:57
  You know what I mean? Them trading strong.
• 44:00
  Strong's probably a good presence in the in the bullpen
• 44:03
  and down again as a reliable source.
• 44:06
  And you have a bunch of rookies coming in and you're missing
• 44:09
  some guys here and there and it's going to be a dog fight and
• 44:12
  what are you going to do in September?
• 44:14
  And then the whole thing with Castianos and stuff too, like
• 44:18
  the backlash of all this stuff is going to tie in together at
• 44:21
  some point. You don't realize that.
• 44:24
  Yeah, you're right. It's going to, it's going to,
• 44:26
  it's going to, it's going to like show.
• 44:27
  It's going to show itself. At some point, at some point it
• 44:31
  might be right now, you never know, but it depends on how they
• 44:36
  bounce back from it and how much does it cost them at that time
• 44:39
  too. Hopefully it doesn't cost them a
• 44:41
  lot, but at the same point, like some of this stuff is kind of
• 44:45
  big, like losing Castellanos is big.
• 44:47
  Like, that's a big bat to lose on that team.
• 44:51
  Like a huge bat. Like, as much as people want to
• 44:54
  hate on him to a certain degree of how everything went down and
• 44:58
  what he did, he helped him win a lot of games.
• 45:02
  Yeah, he did not wrong. Like, you know, that's not like
• 45:06
  how do you replace that again? Like if you feel like you can
• 45:09
  replace it and you do replace it, yes.
• 45:11
  But a lot of times these these teams don't realize how valuable
• 45:15
  some of these guys are and what they actually mean to some of
• 45:19
  the like some of the clubhouses and some of the actual baseball
• 45:23
  IQ things that go on. No, it's a big deal.
• 45:27
  It's it's such a big deal. And The thing is like club host
• 45:31
  culture is such, you know, it's massive, right?
• 45:34
  And I know that they had a couple guys suspended.
• 45:37
  Kepler, I think got suspended, but he I think he's a free
• 45:41
  agent. But Rojas, right, got suspended
• 45:44
  too, right? And I like to see Bryson Stott
• 45:47
  take the next step. Like he was always like, you
• 45:49
  know, living up to that potential.
• 45:51
  Like he hasn't really put it all together yet.
• 45:53
  I mean, he's still young and they brought back your real
• 45:56
  muted too, right? Like I don't know.
• 45:58
  I don't know what the Phillies, they'll compete, but I don't
• 46:01
  know how far they go. They going.
• 46:03
  To make a big ass trade. I, I think, I think they're
• 46:06
  going to if, if, if the Angels, if the angels don't even try to
• 46:10
  even, I mean, they're, they're going to dump Trout's contract.
• 46:14
  And right now he looks healthy and he looks good.
• 46:16
  That's all I'm saying. You think so?
• 46:19
  He. Looks good.
• 46:20
  He looks healthy. I don't know, I don't know.
• 46:26
  Rob, what team did you say that's Sleeper?
• 46:30
  You know, I'm looking at the the AL West and I just don't see, I
• 46:36
  don't think it's Houston. I think that we can get into
• 46:39
  this deeper. I have some thoughts about
• 46:42
  Houston this year and going forward.
• 46:45
  But the Angels are, you know, they're playing well right now.
• 46:49
  Can they get a year of healthy trout?
• 46:51
  I don't think they have enough pitching.
• 46:54
  You know, I think Seattle is going to be there like you guys
• 46:57
  had mentioned before. But Texas is a is a team I'm
• 47:01
  kind of watching because they go and they trade for Mackenzie
• 47:05
  Gore, right? And you know, they brought in
• 47:08
  Andrew McCutcheon on a on a deal as veteran leadership.
• 47:15
  I believe they brought in Jalen Beats for the bullpen.
• 47:18
  You know, they lost Phil Maton, I believe.
• 47:20
  But just looking at their offense, it's pretty good.
• 47:23
  I mean, you got Wyatt Lankford, Evan Carter, young, good player
• 47:27
  Jake Berger. They brought in Danny Jansen
• 47:31
  too, as a catcher because I believe Jonah Himes now with
• 47:35
  Atlanta. So I I think they're a team that
• 47:38
  could bounce back this year and fight for a wild card spot.
• 47:42
  I don't know if they fight for a division with Seattle, but but I
• 47:47
  think they're definitely going to be in the mix in a wild card
• 47:49
  spot. Yeah, I could see.
• 47:54
  I could definitely see Texas in there for sure.
• 47:56
  Like I said, I'm trying to figure out who's going to be out
• 47:59
  of the AO W Like I can honestly see that, you know, it possibly
• 48:08
  would not be, that it wouldn't be Houston.
• 48:14
  So it'll be interesting to see. Yeah, I forgot they brought in
• 48:18
  Brandon Nimmo too. Yeah, yeah.
• 48:24
  So I mean, yeah, that trade, that trade with New York was
• 48:27
  crazy, right? Yeah, that, that had to be some
• 48:29
  clubhouse stuff though. I I it had to be some clubhouse
• 48:32
  stuff. You think so?
• 48:33
  You think it was that much stuff?
• 48:35
  I think, I think it might have been bro, I don't know, man.
• 48:39
  You can you let a guy go like that?
• 48:42
  And it was like a, it was on the news.
• 48:46
  I mean, not on the news, but it was on the Internet here.
• 48:48
  Let me see if I can dig it up a little bit.
• 48:49
  Like you're talking about clubhouse stuff with with Nemo,
• 48:52
  right? Not, not Sami Inner, yeah.
• 48:55
  Even Simeon and Seeger, there was just some.
• 48:57
  Rumors. Yep, there was some very stuff
• 48:59
  over there too. Yeah, actually I did hear that
• 49:02
  now that you mentioned that. Yeah, there was some friction
• 49:06
  there too, right? So I think, I think with Texas,
• 49:09
  I mean, they're trying to compete now.
• 49:10
  They're still trying to compete. I know I heard some secret
• 49:13
  rumors, but he didn't get traded.
• 49:15
  But I think they're interesting, too.
• 49:20
  Let's see how far they go. To me, Jack Leiter has to be the
• 49:23
  anchor and the Rob has to be healthy, of course, right?
• 49:25
  Like. Anevalde.
• 49:27
  Anevalde. Anevalde yeah.
• 49:29
  And what what's your bullpen looking like?
• 49:32
  Is is Garcia that surefire closer?
• 49:35
  I don't know, But yeah, I mean, you could always fix your
• 49:38
  bullpen anytime throughout the year.
• 49:39
  So it's always doable. But yeah, they got some guys to
• 49:42
  compete. That's the thing.
• 49:43
  You can't like that. That's, that's a misconception.
• 49:46
  You can't really fix your bullpen throughout the year.
• 49:49
  You think you can because you still need to have your durable
• 49:52
  consistency in your bullpen at some point.
• 49:54
  Because if you don't and you don't have those people in there
• 49:58
  that you can trust or have a system that you can trust in any
• 50:01
  way. And your bullpen is going to be
• 50:04
  key to you getting through the year.
• 50:05
  Like your team fold. You see it all the time.
• 50:07
  Like guys, teams will have great starters and won't make the
• 50:11
  playoffs. It's because of bullpen's trash.
• 50:14
  You guys can't go 9 every inning.
• 50:16
  I mean every outing. Nope.
• 50:19
  And you can't fix that. You can't just keep throwing
• 50:21
  guys in there because people like guys don't get comfortable
• 50:25
  there and guys don't feel like they want to be there and don't
• 50:28
  belong there. And that becomes the problem.
• 50:31
  You can't have people in the bullpen that aren't mentally
• 50:34
  strong. And if you're messing with the
• 50:36
  bullpen like that and thinking that you can just fix it all the
• 50:40
  time like that, that leads to a lot of dysfunction and having
• 50:44
  the bullpen feel that way. And like, mentally, those guys
• 50:47
  are shot. And then when those big moments
• 50:49
  do happen, those guys aren't prepared and don't want to be
• 50:52
  there. That's why they get the big
• 50:55
  bucks, right? If you look at the way the track
• 50:57
  records are about how these guys get paid, that's why they call,
• 51:01
  what's that, the bullpen ace or whatever you call the closer
• 51:03
  ace, right? So yeah.
• 51:05
  That's right, the stopper. The Stopper.
• 51:07
  Yeah, that's what it is, right. So that's why you saw like Edwin
• 51:11
  Diaz getting paid a lot of money, like relievers are such a
• 51:13
  big deal now. Like saw the Jay signed Tyler
• 51:16
  Rogers, a brave signing Roberts where you need those stoppers in
• 51:20
  between right and you need those surefire guys like to hold it
• 51:23
  down and get it done right no matter what it is because you
• 51:26
  want to run. Prevention is always pivotal,
• 51:28
  especially especially when it comes to the bullpen.
• 51:31
  It's not how you start, it's how you finish, right?
• 51:33
  So that's always the important part of finishing games, right?
• 51:36
  And you want to have a really good yeah, you're right.
• 51:39
  You're right about that. So that's why that's why I'm
• 51:42
  curious to see how this trade deadline is going to be with all
• 51:44
  these relievers who whoever is going to be available, right?
• 51:47
  So I'm just curious, right? That's why I like with Seattle,
• 51:51
  even though like they were like 1, like they were like ending in
• 51:54
  a so away from going to the World Series, like they went to
• 51:58
  go get a Ferrar from Washington, right?
• 52:01
  Like they wanted a surety to, you know, surefire power.
• 52:05
  But even though you can never, never have enough pitching,
• 52:07
  right. So Jay, you know about this when
• 52:10
  you were with the Jays a couple years ago and the Twins and the
• 52:13
  raids and so on. So you know how it is with the
• 52:15
  whole pitching schemes of how you get it done, right?
• 52:17
  So no, yeah, like you, the schemes and stuff that you do
• 52:22
  and how you go through the year, it's based off of how you keep
• 52:26
  guys healthy. And that's why I feel like that
• 52:31
  we were talking about it before. Like I'm kind of upset that
• 52:34
  like, me and Trayvon and a lot of other guys that I do know
• 52:37
  personally aren't coaching right now and aren't helping guys
• 52:41
  develop and be better ball players in the minors
• 52:43
  especially, let alone the big leagues, is because like, we
• 52:48
  know what it's like, right? We know how to get those things
• 52:51
  done. We know how to, like, help these
• 52:53
  guys, like train themselves and be better throughout the year
• 52:57
  because the development doesn't just happen in the beginning.
• 52:59
  It happens completely throughout the year.
• 53:01
  Like some of these guys just aren't ready and you can protect
• 53:04
  them to a certain degree. Yeah, Yeah, that's, that's true.
• 53:10
  And we know and we know how to protect them.
• 53:11
  Like I've had guys literally videos like in their testimonies
• 53:15
  for me coaching them literally tell me like, hey, like you
• 53:18
  protected me when like, you know, and it helped me pretty
• 53:22
  much get drafted and helped me sign to another team.
• 53:25
  Like because I made sure it wasn't just about the data.
• 53:30
  It was just like, hey, I know what you're feeling right now.
• 53:33
  I can see it again. Let me put you in the best
• 53:36
  situation to help us and help you get through this, right?
• 53:44
  Right. Let's let's get to the AL East.
• 53:47
  We know that that's the best division in baseball by far,
• 53:51
  right? All these teams made all these
• 53:53
  moves. They probably had the most moves
• 53:55
  in that division out of every division out there, right?
• 53:58
  And how do you how do you look at the landscape out of it?
• 54:00
  Because I know Jay, you briefly talked about Yankees.
• 54:03
  Jay's probably compete, but how do you look at the rest of the
• 54:05
  division? It's going to be a dog fight.
• 54:08
  I think the Orioles made a lot of good moves this offseason,
• 54:12
  but at the same point, how are they going to pan out?
• 54:16
  Because it takes time for people to get together and like, fit
• 54:21
  and be comfortable, figure out their roles, figure out what
• 54:23
  they're doing. I feel like the first two teams
• 54:26
  are going to, you know what I'm saying?
• 54:27
  The top of that division is going to be Toronto and New
• 54:29
  York. But then the next three are
• 54:31
  going to be a dog fight for that last wild card spot for me, I
• 54:35
  think I thought because the rays are always the rays, right?
• 54:42
  Like you can never count them out.
• 54:43
  Like, it's just crazy that they just win games all the time and.
• 54:48
  Yeah, they find a way. They, they, they, they, they,
• 54:51
  they hold the gold standard of being 500, but even being over
• 54:55
  500. So for me, it's just a matter of
• 55:03
  OK, like who's going to come out of there after that?
• 55:06
  Like is it, is it the Orioles? Is it the Rays?
• 55:13
  Like, I don't know, like is it the Red Sox?
• 55:17
  Like I, I got it. I think the Reds, like I said, I
• 55:21
  think the Red Sox pitching acquisitions they made put them
• 55:24
  possibly at the top of that list for me.
• 55:26
  Because I feel like over the long haul, over the year, that
• 55:30
  the acquisitions they got are going to benefit them more in,
• 55:34
  you know, August and September than anything else, right?
• 55:39
  So I feel like that's going to be, for me, the top three are
• 55:42
  going to be the Blue Jays and Yankees and the Red Sox.
• 55:46
  But I feel like that third spot is going to be a dog fight.
• 55:49
  And I'm going to be interested to see how it plays out.
• 55:55
  Trevor, what you think about that?
• 55:57
  Yeah, I agree. It's going to be a dog fight.
• 55:59
  It's going to be pretty exciting now.
• 56:00
  And and they definitely Red Sox do got a they're they got a
• 56:05
  pretty good staff. But I mean, I don't want to say
• 56:09
  one staff is actually better than the next.
• 56:11
  I mean, it's going to come down to their bullpen.
• 56:12
  I don't know. I mean, it's still early in the
• 56:16
  year. I don't know what bullpen is
• 56:19
  going to be better than the next.
• 56:20
  But I can tell you what I think it's pretty it's pretty damn
• 56:24
  close from from the rotation from those teams.
• 56:28
  I mean, they they made an impact.
• 56:29
  They tried to, you know, they got at least three guys that
• 56:34
  they can go with and, and at the end of the day in the playoffs,
• 56:36
  Jay, you know, you need 3 good starters, you know what I'm
• 56:39
  saying? If you have three good starters,
• 56:41
  you're probably going to win some ball games, you know?
• 56:43
  What I'm saying? Yeah.
• 56:45
  You're going to win some ball games.
• 56:46
  So I think I think it's the draw when it comes to that.
• 56:50
  Again, I think obviously because just the placement of their
• 56:53
  division, where they are in a division, they're going to be
• 56:57
  very attractive. I mean, that can be, I mean, you
• 57:01
  can see Sandy, Sandy can probably be a guy that goes all
• 57:04
  the way over there to the the AL East, you know what I'm saying?
• 57:07
  So. He.
• 57:11
  Can he can like just? Think about that happens.
• 57:15
  Oh my goodness. I mean, I mean, I don't know
• 57:18
  where he'll probably go. He'll.
• 57:19
  Probably. End up with he'll probably end
• 57:21
  up over there, he'll probably end up with the Rays or he might
• 57:23
  end up with the Orioles, but it's going to be with a team.
• 57:25
  That's going to. Be able to give significantly a
• 57:28
  lot a little bit some, some prospects or some.
• 57:31
  Younger. Guys, some control guys because
• 57:33
  we're talking about, you know, the Marlins and they want to
• 57:36
  keep the payroll down those so so they're not going to they're
• 57:38
  not going to like just ship them off if they ship them off to the
• 57:41
  Yankees and they're going to get a whole minor league system
• 57:43
  back, but I don't think they're. Going to ask for that much.
• 57:46
  You know what I'm saying? But I could see him landing in
• 57:49
  the NL East, but I could also see him landing in the NL
• 57:51
  Central. But nonetheless, but the the AL
• 57:53
  Central, I mean the AL East, it's going to come down to
• 57:57
  bullpens on the the health because it is a veteran, it's a
• 58:00
  veteran division. So it's going to come down to
• 58:02
  health and it's going to come down to how they're going to use
• 58:05
  the bullpens because we can't say like, OK, well, Boston's
• 58:08
  going to hit more home runs than the Yankees.
• 58:10
  It's like, come on bro, it's not.
• 58:11
  Going to happen. But they can also win a lot
• 58:14
  more, they can win some ball games because they got a little
• 58:16
  bit more youth. And they got a good.
• 58:18
  Bullpen, you know so. I don't know.
• 58:21
  I mean, I think it's a draw when it comes to starting pitching.
• 58:23
  I think it's going to come down to bullpens between those three
• 58:25
  teams and they're going to make some trades.
• 58:27
  But I don't think it's going to be the trades that everybody
• 58:31
  think it's going to be like Sandy out if Sandy goes over
• 58:33
  there to the AO ES and he probably won't be going with
• 58:36
  those top three. He'll probably be going with
• 58:38
  like the. Orioles or or or the Rays.
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  Or something like that, just because of the, the return on
• 58:43
  investment, you know what I'm saying?
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  But they need to add some arms. They need to add some arms and a
• 58:49
  bullpen, you know. But I, I, I, I mean, I think
• 58:52
  everybody's good now. I mean, it's, it's so early to
• 58:54
  the, it's so early, but I don't know who I got winning it, man.
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  I just know it's going to be 3 of them, three of them coming
• 59:01
  out of there. That's all I know.
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  Yeah, I I agree with you. I mean, why not bring Sandy to
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  the El E? Everybody else comes here.
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  I mean Toronto. No, no, no, no.
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  I know that. I know that.
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  Just because y'all got too many righties, there's too many
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  writers right now. You got to think about a team
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  that has a balance of that. 4. Yeah, 4 Four out of five are
• 59:28
  right righties. But they didn't care.
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  Yeah, they they got six. They got 6.
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  Right. I mean Blauer wasn't even
• 59:38
  projected to be in the opening day rotation, but here we are
• 59:41
  because of the injuries. So we we technically on on a
• 59:45
  healthy rotation, we got 5 varieties in the rotation.
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  So I agree with you ain't come to Toronto, but I mean any other
• 59:52
  team, I mean that wouldn't surprise me man.
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  It just seems like everybody ends up coming to the A at least
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  at some point in their career. So.
• 1:00:00
  But you know, it's going to be sorry, it's going to be a
• 1:00:03
  juggernaut. It's going to be, you know, I've
• 1:00:06
  talked to some people that think that there could be four teams
• 1:00:10
  out of this division that multiply could make a playoff
• 1:00:14
  spot. And that's if Baltimore improves
• 1:00:17
  and and bounces back like some people think they will.
• 1:00:20
  But we'll see. You know, I think, I think in
• 1:00:25
  the end, I still got to say my Blue Jays are going to be be
• 1:00:28
  there, but we'll talk about that later.
• 1:00:30
  But you know, like, like you say, all the moves that were
• 1:00:34
  made in this division and and and This is why there's so many
• 1:00:38
  moves in this division because it's so competitive and you got
• 1:00:41
  you have to continue to bolster your roster.
• 1:00:44
  If you want to compete in this division, you have to.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah, you have to keep going. Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Doesn't stop, it doesn't stop at the end of spring training
• 1:00:54
  because you somebody's going to go down in that rotation.
• 1:00:57
  Knock on wood. I hope it doesn't happen for the
• 1:00:59
  sake of being an ex baseball player and you don't want to see
• 1:01:01
  nobody getting hurt, but something's going to happen man
• 1:01:05
  Longevity. You have to care for it, yeah.
• 1:01:10
  What's going on with Lucas Giolito?
• 1:01:11
  Is he still out there? Is he going to sign?
• 1:01:13
  Because I know that his. Name was still.
• 1:01:15
  Available too, yeah. Because I know that he was
• 1:01:18
  pretty decent for the Red Sox, but I think that injury took
• 1:01:22
  took a lot of its toll and now he's still a free agent out
• 1:01:24
  there. I'm just pretty surprised.
• 1:01:26
  But yeah, I'm with you guys. Like, I think what I think what
• 1:01:29
  the Rays, I'll say, I'll say some more about the Rays.
• 1:01:31
  Is that what what if they they love to trade guys and acquire
• 1:01:36
  guys. They like to do both things at
• 1:01:39
  the same time, right? If you look at what they did
• 1:01:41
  last year, right, they went to go get Griffin Jacks and then
• 1:01:44
  they traded away Josh Lowe and Brandon Lau and they have some
• 1:01:47
  guys coming in the system. I mean Junior Caminero is the
• 1:01:50
  future of that team, right? And I think what's that Shane
• 1:01:53
  Boz, right, was traded within the division.
• 1:01:55
  They they gave up quite a haul to go get Shane Boz.
• 1:01:58
  They they gave him that money. So they are the Orioles are
• 1:02:01
  banking on shame boss on that team, but I do think they need
• 1:02:04
  another starting pitcher. I'm with you guys if they really
• 1:02:06
  want to go any further. Because like like you said, if
• 1:02:09
  you look at the rotations like it's like you said, it's
• 1:02:11
  Toronto, New York and Boston. Are they probably have the best
• 1:02:15
  rotations in that division right now as it stands.
• 1:02:17
  And you're going to have to have inning dealers.
• 1:02:19
  You need dogs, right? And you need guys who could
• 1:02:22
  swing and miss him. I mean, if so, if if the Orioles
• 1:02:25
  can go get Sandy, I mean that that will bolster their they're
• 1:02:30
  rotation in so many ways. Like, do you think like a Mitch
• 1:02:32
  Keller could be available? I don't know. $15 million right
• 1:02:36
  there, man. He could be a bargain.
• 1:02:38
  There's teams that wanted him right?
• 1:02:39
  And and he was still out. I mean, his name's been floated
• 1:02:42
  out for like 3 years now so I don't know what.
• 1:02:44
  Do you mean, Yeah, he's another guy that I mean that again, like
• 1:02:47
  that's that's all the pirates have.
• 1:02:49
  If they they have to get it now, if they get it now, if they
• 1:02:51
  don't get it now, one GM's probably going to be gone.
• 1:02:56
  Somebody somebody's going to be gone out of that coaching staff.
• 1:02:59
  I don't think they're going to be I don't think it's going to
• 1:03:02
  be a Don Kelly because he literally just got the job.
• 1:03:06
  But but in the next couple years, but if they don't, if
• 1:03:09
  they don't do it this year, somebody's going to somebody's
• 1:03:14
  on the hot seat. You know what I'm just saying
• 1:03:15
  because you already know Paul Paul skins, he's probably going
• 1:03:19
  to he's probably going to dip. But I don't know, man, I just, I
• 1:03:23
  just, it's a big year for him. That's all I can say.
• 1:03:26
  It's a big year for him. They have to show some type of
• 1:03:29
  promise. They have to show some type of
• 1:03:31
  promise. Right now and you.
• 1:03:32
  Need to be like, you know, 7 in and seven in and Paul's schemes
• 1:03:35
  all day every day. Like you have to, like, again,
• 1:03:39
  you can't expect Paul to go out there and do it like that all
• 1:03:43
  the time. Like you can't, you have to see
• 1:03:45
  what's going to happen. But I mean, do you, if you take
• 1:03:49
  Mitch, like who do you request Mitch on that team with, though?
• 1:03:53
  Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's what's a
• 1:03:56
  rotation like Jared Jones should be back at some point later in
• 1:03:59
  the year or two. Yeah.
• 1:04:00
  But again, like who do you replace Mitch with, though?
• 1:04:03
  Jared is still going to be Jared and like he fits into that
• 1:04:06
  rotation. But like, who do you, if you get
• 1:04:08
  rid of Mitch, like you have to put somebody else back in there,
• 1:04:12
  right. Right.
• 1:04:13
  I'm pretty. I mean, they have the pitching
• 1:04:16
  and their in their system like them and the Marlins, like if
• 1:04:18
  those two teams they say they want to go get right now back
• 1:04:22
  here, you're going to trust somebody in their system.
• 1:04:24
  That's what I'm saying. You're going to replace Mitch
• 1:04:25
  with somebody in their system again, right?
• 1:04:28
  That place has got to be as good as Mitch and have the same
• 1:04:32
  effectiveness as Mitch. You're going to try to get that
• 1:04:34
  out of, again, a rookie in your system or some guy in your
• 1:04:38
  system that you have no idea that's been in the big leagues.
• 1:04:41
  And again, Mitch has the most time.
• 1:04:43
  He might not have the best numbers, but he's got the most
• 1:04:45
  time in your staff. He's the veteran on your staff.
• 1:04:48
  You're going to get rid of the veteran of your staff and
• 1:04:50
  replace him with somebody that's never been there and have
• 1:04:54
  somebody a veteran. You can have Paul be a veteran,
• 1:04:57
  but Paul's a leader by example more than a leader with words.
• 1:05:00
  I don't know how Mitch is, but yeah, again, that you're losing
• 1:05:04
  a huge piece. Like to have to again, try to
• 1:05:07
  replace, you know, you know, let me ask you guys a name out
• 1:05:12
  there. And yeah, I think he has two
• 1:05:13
  years left. So he's a free agent after 27.
• 1:05:16
  Luis Severino. Shit, yeah.
• 1:05:22
  Oh shit, forgot about him. What about him?
• 1:05:26
  I need to see, I need to see how he fares over there still
• 1:05:28
  because he's, he's been too shaky over too many years.
• 1:05:31
  You know what I mean? He's been too up and down over
• 1:05:34
  too many years. Like if I'm going to have him be
• 1:05:36
  somebody that's going to help me realistically, like push me over
• 1:05:41
  the edge, I need to see him be more consistent and dominate
• 1:05:45
  more. Like he's had some good
• 1:05:47
  stretches, but if he's going to be there as long as he's been in
• 1:05:50
  the league now, like he should know how he plays, what he needs
• 1:05:54
  to do to show a team to have a chance to win a championship, to
• 1:05:57
  be like, hey, this is what I'm going to give you every time I
• 1:06:00
  get out there. I'm not going to say I was the
• 1:06:01
  best at it, but I know that one of the times I was traded, the
• 1:06:06
  reason the team traded for me is because I was consistent with
• 1:06:09
  like my my outings and my appearances, right?
• 1:06:12
  So they're like, we know pretty much what we're going to get out
• 1:06:15
  of that. Like I feel like with Louise,
• 1:06:17
  like he's been like riding that roller coaster kind of too many
• 1:06:21
  times throughout these past couple years still, even though
• 1:06:24
  he's the ace of the A staff now. Yeah, I mean, he has.
• 1:06:30
  He's expensive too, man. He's 20 mil this year.
• 1:06:35
  He's 20 mil. That does make a difference too.
• 1:06:38
  That definitely makes a difference.
• 1:06:40
  Yeah, You know, we're talking about rentals.
• 1:06:43
  I mean, half a year, that's 10 million for a rental.
• 1:06:46
  That's still a gamble, like you know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:48
  So, yeah, I mean, I don't know what's left on this contract.
• 1:06:52
  I mean, if it was anything, if I'm, you know, I mean, they are
• 1:06:58
  going to that new place, but they want, if the A's are not
• 1:07:02
  even contending right now, I mean, they're going to.
• 1:07:04
  I think the A's are going to try to do something, you know what
• 1:07:07
  I'm saying? Because they just gave all, they
• 1:07:08
  just locked up all their guys, like pretty much.
• 1:07:11
  So it's like, well, we can't really forget about them, too.
• 1:07:13
  They got young guys. They got this guy Kurtz that,
• 1:07:16
  you know, that just went off like, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:07:19
  So yeah. Chill angle ears.
• 1:07:22
  I mean like a. Trailer.
• 1:07:24
  Yeah, that's good. If you take, if you take him and
• 1:07:27
  like I said, for what? I guess that over the past three
• 1:07:31
  years, like I said, the past four, he's been a 31-A66A39 and
• 1:07:38
  then a 4-5. Like it's too jumpy, right?
• 1:07:43
  It's every other year seems like it's a Goodyear.
• 1:07:45
  Instead of it being like something that's stable enough
• 1:07:48
  for me to be like, oh, like this is what we're going to get out
• 1:07:51
  of you to give you again, 20 mil a year right now.
• 1:07:56
  Yeah. Especially if I'm going to try
• 1:07:58
  to like if I'm planning on winning a championship with you,
• 1:08:00
  something like that. Yeah, I mean.
• 1:08:06
  That's the perfect place for him.
• 1:08:07
  Like, he can go over there, make his money and again, try to
• 1:08:10
  hopefully get to that place where he's more consistent and
• 1:08:16
  like he has a better resume for a team to pick him up.
• 1:08:20
  Because, I mean, that's what I would assume that was all wrong,
• 1:08:24
  right? Yeah.
• 1:08:28
  That would have been my goal, really.
• 1:08:29
  If I'm going to go sign for that much money with A's, like, OK,
• 1:08:31
  let me go over here, ball out enough to go to somewhere else
• 1:08:35
  where I'm making as much money and I have a chance to win a
• 1:08:36
  championship somewhere too. That would be probably a more
• 1:08:39
  offseason acquisition, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:41
  Because how much money it is, you don't.
• 1:08:43
  I mean if I don't want to pay 10 for half a year, I'd much rather
• 1:08:47
  play 20 for a hole like you know what I mean?
• 1:08:50
  But you can pay 30 because how many years does he have left?
• 1:08:52
  You can give him 30 for a year and a half and then you have
• 1:08:55
  two. You see what I'm saying?
• 1:08:58
  Yeah, you're right. And for me, like if you, if you
• 1:09:02
  can get him, the earlier you can get him to fit them in, if
• 1:09:05
  you're going to try to use them as a core piece of your
• 1:09:07
  rotation, the better. Especially if the A's, because
• 1:09:12
  you know, the A's are always about like the most bang for our
• 1:09:15
  buck anyway. Like, oh, we signed them for a
• 1:09:17
  lot of money anyway just to pretty much get this money from
• 1:09:21
  MLB. So if we can flip them for a
• 1:09:23
  couple more prospects and we know we're not going to win the
• 1:09:26
  AOS for a couple more years, they'll gladly do it, yeah.
• 1:09:31
  Well, is this last year of the contract?
• 1:09:33
  So is it? Yeah, this is last year or is it
• 1:09:36
  last? Year it's already year three.
• 1:09:38
  Wow. Yeah.
• 1:09:40
  I mean, the thing, the thing about the and The thing is that
• 1:09:43
  for them, I still think they're like, kind of like, OK, we're
• 1:09:46
  going to buy, we're going to sell.
• 1:09:47
  Like they traded Mason Miller, who had, what, 4 1/2 years of
• 1:09:51
  that trade deadline. Like, I think they're open to
• 1:09:54
  business depending on what the return is.
• 1:09:56
  Like they're trying to figure out what the core is, what
• 1:09:58
  they're building around, and they're gonna trade guys if they
• 1:10:00
  need to, right? Because I know that Severino
• 1:10:02
  wasn't happy with what was going on with that whole, you know,
• 1:10:06
  mound. Oh, the way like he pitches
• 1:10:08
  there and he's like, he felt uncomfortable.
• 1:10:10
  That's why I was wondering his name, if his name gets out there
• 1:10:13
  at the trade deadline. But we'll see.
• 1:10:15
  I mean, there's there's there's going to be names out there that
• 1:10:18
  pitching is going to be a need in in this trade, especially the
• 1:10:21
  AL ES. Like if you look at the line
• 1:10:23
  UPS, how strong they are. Like but.
• 1:10:26
  Sorry, he has a, he has a, he has a next year he has a player
• 1:10:29
  option and then he has a yeah, he has a player option and he
• 1:10:34
  has a half, $1,000,000 trade assignment bonus.
• 1:10:40
  So he gets kind. He's kind of, you know.
• 1:10:43
  Yeah, I don't know. I know Baltimore would look for
• 1:10:46
  starting, they got to compete, right?
• 1:10:48
  Like they have to compete when they with that kind of
• 1:10:51
  offseason, they got to make some moves.
• 1:10:52
  Like I feel like, I feel like that's where Sandy goes, right?
• 1:10:57
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, Orioles. Yeah, I would try to get them.
• 1:11:06
  Do they have the boss to pull the trigger though?
• 1:11:10
  No. Just just a question.
• 1:11:17
  I mean, I would like for them to to see it as well, but I don't
• 1:11:22
  think they do. Yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:11:25
  I don't think they do, but I I think that they're totally a
• 1:11:28
  team that should though. I'm, I'm completely 100% with
• 1:11:31
  you guys on that, as much as I'd hate to see him come to the AL
• 1:11:37
  East. Totally.