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Red, White & Sue: Patagonia v. Pattie Gonia · Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast with Michael Foote & Mélissa Malebranche

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Brief Recess. I'm Michael Foot, I'm Melissa Malbranch.
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  Speaker 1: Today we're going to be talking about local elections and
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  Speaker 1: how they often matter most. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: cities we love to hate, al Amilissa's estate sales, how
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  Speaker 1: it's America's two hundred and fiftieth dumpster fire birthday. Jeff
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  Speaker 1: the Giant Fern and other A list celebrities do make appearance.
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  Speaker 1: We do talk about them. We have a discussion about
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  Speaker 1: the famous drag queen Patty Gonia and the trademark lawsuit
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  Speaker 1: with the company Patagonia. And we're going to read all
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  Speaker 1: your show reviews, tales from the dms. Get into it
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  Speaker 1: and don't get it twisted. Have you forgotten a stranger's car?
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  Speaker 2: Have I gotten what now?
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  Speaker 1: Like when you get in a stranger's car accidentally. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like this happens to a lot of people common below.
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  Speaker 1: If you've gotten a stranger's car, it happens to me
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  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 2: You mean, like like you think of the Uber lift situation.
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  Speaker 1: I gotten uber once. There was a baby in the
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  Speaker 1: back seat.
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  Speaker 2: One time.
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  Speaker 1: It was Halloween. It was dressed as like a goblin,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like well it was late and I
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  Speaker 1: was in a costume too. It was it was alarming
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  Speaker 1: for me. No, he was like, get out, no, there
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  Speaker 1: was no time for his selfie. We're at a stoplight.
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  Speaker 1: Just a man at a stoplight with a baby dressed
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  Speaker 1: like a goblin his baby. Yeah, I didn't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a baby.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: I Actually one time I had gone to uh get
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  Speaker 3: some takeout, and I left my car in front of
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  Speaker 3: the spot with my car running because I was just
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  Speaker 3: going to run in there. And somebody else also did
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  Speaker 3: the same thing. And you know, everyone's car looks the
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  Speaker 3: same now.
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  Speaker 1: Especially for a Hoppin takeout joint like that. What was
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  Speaker 1: the takeout?
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  Speaker 2: It was like Chinese food.
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  Speaker 3: And I just opened a car door, sat down and
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  Speaker 3: was like, this is not my car, This is not
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  Speaker 3: my car, and like and whatever it was that was
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  Speaker 3: playing on the radio was so not the music that
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: I listened to, and it was like the Eagles or something,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh shit.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the whole thing happened in like two seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Did anyone see you in that car?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, Well what they could have a dog in there,
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  Speaker 3: like anything could have happened another time. I yeah, another time,
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  Speaker 3: This is really long time ago though.
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  Speaker 2: I was shopping with my friend and we were outlet shopping.
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  Speaker 3: And we were like going back to her car to
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  Speaker 3: put our stuff in to go to the next door,
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  Speaker 3: and I opened somebody else's car. This old lady was
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  Speaker 3: in the passenger street, and we both screamed. My friends
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  Speaker 3: Andrea and whoever this other woman the river no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: The driver of that car and my friend's andrew useless
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  Speaker 3: because they are bent over, doubled with laughter.
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  Speaker 2: Me I, me and the old lady.
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  Speaker 1: Are screaming the person and breaking and entering into a
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  Speaker 1: stranger's car screaming.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think she screamed and she set me off.
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  Speaker 1: I got in the back sit of someone's car in
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans once and it was my friends were supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be picking me up and I got in someone's
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  Speaker 1: car and it was these like two sorority girls who
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  Speaker 1: are like, who is this giant man in our car?
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  Speaker 1: But that was you know, it was a college town. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the course.
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  Speaker 2: How are you? What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. Have you voted? It's voting later election day?
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  Speaker 2: I'm voting after okay, okay, character, I have to tell
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  Speaker 2: you a full disclosure I kind of forgot that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: I did too until I saw the sign.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I saw the little like vote here sign in my neighborhood,
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  Speaker 1: I know, and I was like, Oh, they're talking to me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to vote there.
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  Speaker 3: No, I actually I feel bad. I feel bad that
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  Speaker 3: I am not as tuned in to smaller elections, right,
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  Speaker 3: like governor, yes, mayor yes, president obviously, but like in
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  Speaker 3: the smaller are very important.
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  Speaker 1: They're the most important.
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  Speaker 2: They're very important.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into a sidebar on this, because so many
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  Speaker 1: of them are, like they're the most important ones. There's
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  Speaker 1: the least amount of information on them sometimes because it's
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  Speaker 1: not on they're not on CNN, not on this huge scale.
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  Speaker 1: Times is an endorsing one of them, Like there isn't
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  Speaker 1: a huge main stage that they're on. It's like a
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  Speaker 1: little local.
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  Speaker 3: It's a local election, and you you know, you're counting
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  Speaker 3: on them, yeah, to put themselves in front of you.
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  Speaker 3: And I will tell you, like, sometimes I'll see people
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  Speaker 3: like and it's like and I go around them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't. I just don't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I never, right, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to engage.
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  Speaker 1: Ever, engage with the solicitors, the political solicitor. Maybe we
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  Speaker 1: have to Literally they had for New York twelve, they
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  Speaker 1: had Alex Bores and Michael Lasher their their moms were
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  Speaker 1: on the street this weekend asking people to register.
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  Speaker 2: Is that cute? Is that weird?
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  Speaker 1: They're like, Hi, Hi, my son, My son is running. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I want my mom out there.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely don't want my mom out there. Mango, look
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  Speaker 2: for my daughter.
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  Speaker 1: She would do it for me. Department of Redundancy, Department,
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  Speaker 1: she would do it. She would do it for me.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean there was no line at my
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  Speaker 1: polling station.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they were talking about how the turnout is very
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  Speaker 2: very low.
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  Speaker 1: You just said that in such a New York accent,
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  Speaker 1: did I? That's talking about how the sun out? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: That was so Queen's.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't your high school again, St Agnes?
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  Speaker 1: It was very Saint Agnes from Long Island.
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  Speaker 2: Not from Long Island in Queens. It was in College.
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  Speaker 1: Point, College Point.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't say it. The woman, This guy who
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: was from Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Oh God.
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  Speaker 2: He worked with us.
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  Speaker 3: For a long time and then one day he said
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  Speaker 3: something to me and I was like, let's call him Mike.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Mike, you're losing your Boston and he
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  Speaker 3: was like, don't say that.
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  Speaker 1: Melissa, say that Melissa.
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  Speaker 2: He left, He left, he went back to He went.
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  Speaker 3: Back to Boston, and now he has he's married and
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  Speaker 3: he only makes girls.
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  Speaker 1: Can I can I ask this?
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  Speaker 2: He only makes girls? When I said to you only
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  Speaker 2: make girls? And he was like, apparently.
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  Speaker 1: My friends a twin and her dad used to say
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  Speaker 1: he got a double yoke. It was like ew, he
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  Speaker 1: would say it all the time. He thought it was
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  Speaker 1: so endearing. He was a dentist.
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  Speaker 2: That's weird.
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  Speaker 1: Dentists send their jokes. If you are from Boston or
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  Speaker 1: you live there, can you tell me why? Honestly? Like,
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  Speaker 1: this is not shady. I want to know why, because
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, what, what's the appeal of Boston? Because
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  Speaker 1: for me, I understand sometimes people will be like I
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  Speaker 1: went to New York and I don't get how you
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  Speaker 1: live there? And I'm like, where'd you go? And they're
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  Speaker 1: like Times Square where the eminem Store, Statue of Liberty,
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  Speaker 1: Like they go to all these places that I've honestly
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  Speaker 1: never been to, and so I understand why they left
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  Speaker 1: feeling like New York is not the place for them.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that maybe happened to me in Boston. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the number of times have been there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when you have been to Boston, what have you
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  Speaker 2: gone to do?
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  Speaker 1: A toxic X? So that was the first thing I
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  Speaker 1: did in Boston.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Next, what was the other reason why you went
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  Speaker 2: to Boston?
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  Speaker 1: That was the only reason why I went?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: No, I went there for work once or twice.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. I feel like those are not I've.
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  Speaker 1: Been to like some cute neighborhoods and I've been like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is cute. But people from Boston go hard for Boston.
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  Speaker 3: I think that there are certain cities where the people
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  Speaker 3: go really hard for I think people go really hard
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  Speaker 3: for Chicago, people go really hard for New York. People
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  Speaker 3: go really hard for Philly, right. I mean I've even
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  Speaker 3: seen people they go hard for Miami, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: Alyssa goes kind of hard for my.
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  Speaker 1: Hard for Miami.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But we can listen to that dizzy bitch. She's gonna customs.
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  Speaker 1: She's I know, she can't remember why she likes Miami.
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  Speaker 2: But she's not the only person.
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  Speaker 3: And I feel like I feel actually as opposed to
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  Speaker 3: the other places where I have been where I'm like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I can see why you like this place Miami.
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  Speaker 1: No, I guess, like the beach is nice, but everything
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  Speaker 1: miamis sinking. Yeah, it's just like a giant, glassy skyscraper
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  Speaker 1: kind of like I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Like some of the food is good. If you go
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  Speaker 2: to like little Cuba or a little Haiti, the food
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  Speaker 2: is good.
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  Speaker 1: It's like outside of the beech Haerry, right, it's like it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just not really super excited.
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  Speaker 1: So I do feel like I maybe missed the mark
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  Speaker 1: on DC. I've already made up my mind, but I
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  Speaker 1: do feel like, Okay, I respect that about you.
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  Speaker 2: No, you don't.
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  Speaker 1: I respect your opinion. I respect that you have an opinion,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't. It's getting worse. I just get down
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  Speaker 1: my respect.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a difference between going to a city
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  Speaker 3: doing whatever is there, and then wanting to actually like
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  Speaker 3: liking it enough to live there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, So like before I.
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  Speaker 3: Met Andre, I was thinking really really hard about moving
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  Speaker 3: to Philly.
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  Speaker 2: I had applied to a couple of jobs in Philly.
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  Speaker 3: I looked at apartments in Philly because I felt like
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  Speaker 3: Philly was like New York light, Yes, right, like more
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  Speaker 3: affordable than New York, smaller than New York.
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  Speaker 2: You can get to New York pretty easily from Philly.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: Philly Cheese take and chopped cheese are kind of similar.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I feel like I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: go on a limb here.
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  Speaker 1: I know we might get can one thing, and I'm going.
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  Speaker 3: To say that I I think I prefer a Philly
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  Speaker 3: cheese steak over.
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  Speaker 2: A chop cheese.
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  Speaker 3: I also think that chopped cheese I did not have.
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  Speaker 3: Chop cheese is not really like a New York thing
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  Speaker 3: in the way that they're making it out to be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're making it seem like it's our sandwich and
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  Speaker 1: it's not. The bacon egg and cheese is our sandwich.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, But I think chop.
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  Speaker 3: Cheese is like like an uptown I did not have
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  Speaker 3: a chopped cheese until I was like thirty.
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  Speaker 2: Had it only because I was dating a guy who
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  Speaker 2: liked them.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and we got some. But now it's suddenly been
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: it's the bodega. It's not though that's what people are. Yeah,
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's a lot of these like Wisconsin
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  Speaker 1: transplants moved to New York, yeah, and got one and
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  Speaker 1: then TikTok popularistification.
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  Speaker 3: It is not don't listen to somebody who's and listen.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that, you know, a lot of cities have
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of transplants, and you need your transplants and
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: you need your tourists, right, But.
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  Speaker 2: I think taking like.
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  Speaker 3: Food advice from somebody who just moved here, yeah, because
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  Speaker 3: they discovered they discovered the chop cheese.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think so hard. I don't think so what
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: do you think all these restaurants with the lines out
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  Speaker 1: the door? That drives me insane. You wouldn't catch me
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: waiting for any no.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: You know, the other day right before the Nicks parade, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they were showing like these people who were just sort
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: of calmly waiting the night before, and I just was
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: very struck by this feeling of I hope that I
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: never want to do something that bad.
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  Speaker 1: Well I've never done anything calmonly, especially I'll wait, that's
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  Speaker 1: definitely not something end but do.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: People were just like, oh, like, I really want a
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: good spectator spot to see the Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: And then Trump showed up and ruined it all. They ruined,
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  Speaker 1: But he didn't know he didn't, but he didn't come
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  Speaker 1: to the parade. Oh no, not the parade. This is
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: the parade, the parade. Did you see the weight to
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  Speaker 1: get out of the subway? Yes, that sky got costumes.
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  Speaker 1: Just looking at that, there's there's no way. So for
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: people who did not see the clip, there was this
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: video of people stuck in a subway tunnel waiting to
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: get to the street level. They had gotten off the train.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: They're in like the vestibule tunnel before they can get
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  Speaker 1: to the street level. The wait was for thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Minutes and you can't And looking at that you can
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  Speaker 3: tell that you can't go forward or backwards.
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  Speaker 2: You are stuck there. You know what, It's like the
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Battle of the Bastards. Remember that when they all circled
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  Speaker 2: up John Snow and he's choking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it looks like. The only way out
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  Speaker 1: is up?
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you get out of that? Oh?
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: I know, I guess is that when people say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it was a thirty minute wait to get out of
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  Speaker 1: the tunnel, when you're in the tunnel, you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what's going to.
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  Speaker 2: Be thirty No, you don't know. It could be anything.
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  Speaker 1: My greatest fear, the thing I'm afraid of it is
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  Speaker 1: what being stuck on an elevator? Are you really yes?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm actually not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of flying. I'm not afraid of heights,
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  Speaker 1: not afraid of snakes.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, so okay, let's say it's it's me and you
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  Speaker 3: on the elevator and we're stuck.
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  Speaker 2: Are you afraid? Yes, Okay, I'm freaking so I am
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  Speaker 2: afraid of being stuck on a crowded elevator.
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  Speaker 1: That's yes, it compounds for me, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm on get thinking about that. My mom
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  Speaker 2: is very much like that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: She takes the stairs.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: My mom is like in her seventies, and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'll take the stairs. And I'm like, okay, yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be like lately, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: I'm noticing that when I get on the subway and
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  Speaker 2: if it's too packed, my heart starts to do a thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I have to fix it because what am I
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  Speaker 2: going to do? Like, what am I going to do?
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  Speaker 1: What am I going to do?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Denver, I have a bone to pick
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  Speaker 1: with you. Why is there the Denver Airport is in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of no where. It's like an hour outside
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  Speaker 1: the city, surrounded by desert. It looks like breaking bad.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing happening at that and you get dropped off at.
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  Speaker 2: The open A few people angry, I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't care come for me, and you know I will
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  Speaker 1: die on this.
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  Speaker 2: The person who's from that area, I don't know who
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  Speaker 2: that is off.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: So I get dropped off at the airport. Why am
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: I taking a shuttle to the terminal where in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of nowhere?
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  Speaker 2: JFK has that.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like a crowded part of Long Island
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  Speaker 1: and all this parking. Why aren't you getting just dropped
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  Speaker 1: off at the terminal. I'm getting dropped off. You go
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  Speaker 1: through and then we get on a train. Airport. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're in the middle of nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: Well okay, so all the more reason. If it's in
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere, how will you get to where
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  Speaker 3: you need to be.
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  Speaker 1: I don't just build it so that you get dropped
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  Speaker 1: off where the plane is.
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  Speaker 2: Build it and they will come. So you want them
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: to build it?
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  Speaker 1: They built it in the middle of nowhere, far away
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  Speaker 1: from the city. Reason, and then put a train.
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  Speaker 2: To get to the city.
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  Speaker 1: No, a train from the middle of nowhere to even
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  Speaker 1: further in the middle of nowhere to get to what
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  Speaker 1: from nothing to nothing from the check into the plane,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: it's like a two second train ridek and like we
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  Speaker 1: could have walked this. Why is there a train? This
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: is there's no reason and you cannot walk it. You
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: have to take the train. So you go in, so
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: you check in for your flight, check in for your flight,
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  Speaker 1: then you go down. Everyone waits and gets on a
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  Speaker 1: train for no reason. It takes a train to the
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  Speaker 1: terminal the plane. So you can't have an uber just
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: drop you off at the plane. Okay, we are just
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: like over complicating. Instead, it is mouse trap. It's the
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: kame a mouse trap from the nineties. Just to get
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: on my flight. This isn't that busy of a Not
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  Speaker 1: that many people are coming to Denver. I don't think
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: it's that. I don't think it's the center of the world.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're routing it's from Asia through Denver.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I feel like if you're a person who you've pissed
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: up a.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Lot of people, you know what, and I'm going to
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: double down. If you're the one person I know from Denver,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I don't like you. That's fire for me. I don't
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: know who you are anymore.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: And the person who this is assuming they may not
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: even listen.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: They don't do they would.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: He does not care about me at all.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: He loves me.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm on the side of the road. He
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: keeps walking. Yeah, he doesn't cross the street.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think he keeps walking.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I think he will help you and judge you the
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: entire time.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I have an Australian friend. She says, I wouldn't piss
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: on her if she were on fire.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I've said that many times.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I hope that was like an Australian No, no, no, I.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Hope they go to I hope they go to help
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: with gasoline panties.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: My favorite. I heard this on the TV show Hell
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: on a Scholarship. She's going to Hell on a scholarship.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: This is like crazy lady from Texas on a TV show.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, did you go to any estate
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: sales this weekend?
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: No?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: But speaking of regions that you want to piss off,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: is there like one area that has better estate sales
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: than others?
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm really glad you asked me this question.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Are you like trolling the White neighborhoods.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Listen. So a while back, I spent like the weekend
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: going to like multiple estates and I went to one
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: that was in Scarsdale, New York. And people don't know
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: about scars and Scarsdale is a very affluent neighborhood. The
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: house that I went to had like grounds and I
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: think it was something like eighty five hundred square feet.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: It was shit.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went there and it was okay. Yeah, it
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: was okay.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: There wasn't anything that I felt like I had to have. Yeah,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: none of the stuff felt like it spoke to me right,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: So okay, but it was but it was a if
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: you like.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: That kind of house. I could see why somebody would
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: think that it was beautiful.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Well, sometimes when you go to a yard sell estates, hell,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you can tell the second you pull up it's if
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: it's not for you, right, you know what I mean?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: But like a busted ass swing set on the front
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: lawn and like.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: But it always pays to rummage through. No, it does, Yes,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: it does, it does. It does.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: With a Jane fond of v DVD work outside.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: It's there's a fitness influencer who has recently discovered like.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: All those old.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: She was right, Jane Fond.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: She was like, she was like, you know what, I
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: used to make one of these. She's like, but this
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Jane Bonder workout has humbled her.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's actually she really knew what she was Yeah.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Kind of.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: So after Scarsdale, I then went to Jankers, Yonkers, down
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: by the Raceway, Yonkers.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: When I tell you and.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: What Yonkers says, it's like a very weird part of
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: New York City. It's like kind of a part of
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: New York City, but it's not a part of New
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: York City. When you're doing your tax for your text,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a whole other situation about ya.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Literally you're doing your taxes and there will be like
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a separate breakaway questionnaire.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Do you live in Yonkers?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Is there?
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Have you ever done anything your own property in Yonkers?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Have you something? And you have to claim it? I
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: don't know why, but.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: If you do, you got to go to another page.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: It's like a whole other thing.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: But there's no other town mentioned on your tax return.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It's the only place.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: And it's a small little it's not that big.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: No, it's not that big. But I'll tell you.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: So I go to this, So I go to this
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: house in Yonkers, and the house is a fucking mess.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay o when you get excited by it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got excited because the minute I walked into
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: this house, the house looked like the people who used
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: to live in this house. Like the guy was like
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: a made guy. Oh yeah, Oh it was so good.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, and they had I came out of that Yes,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: the clothes it looked like the movie Casino could have
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: gotten all their wardrobe from.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: And now I'm a little annoyed you didn't call me
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a little face time.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I think I didn't you mocked me. I think I
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: probably you know what I did. I was like, I
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: just come out of an estate sale in Yonkers, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: you were like, oh god, oh god, oh god god.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: But I came out with several.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Outfits and a set of glasses.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Glasses. I guess you could put your lenses in them.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no drinking glass a set of glasses.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: You don't need a set of drink I don't need.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Probably got lead paint. What are you doing with that?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Are looking like.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: They look I'll send you a picture. Yeah, the Melissa
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: and it had a tray with a picture.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: No, this is cry for help. No one's doing pictures
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and glasses anymore. I am no.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you something.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: When I when I, when I, when I entertain in
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: my home, when it's not no, no, no no, because
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I do. I've asked you and you have said no,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: so fuck off. But when I entertained in my home,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: everybody's just like.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Who Melissa?
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: This picture Melissa puts out at at a display the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: other day.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: The other day, but like for Easter, I was making
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a poached fish. I went to an estate cell. I
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: bought a beautiful fish plate.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: You you went to an estate cell for the fish place.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: But while I was there, I was like, oh, I'm
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: making poached fish. I'm getting this plate. I told you
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: that too. You told me to get help. I help,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: And then oh wait, I'm.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Thinking about you. I went to this other estate sale.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: You know what I bought? What a lamp?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with my lamb?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Nothing? You're the one forget it, forget it happened. No,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: because you're always making fun of me about my lamp stuff.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, too.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Late and no tea up again? I want to react.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I remember, I remember? She Okay, So people don't know
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: about Melissa. Edit the crap out of those I don't care.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I would people don't know about Melissa.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I love a good lamp house, has so many lamps,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: and she's got like a lamp guy who like rewires
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: lamp lamp guy, I do, And I'm going to travel
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: to the lamp guy, what.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Are you doing? And she'll be like looking at a lamb, looking.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: At I'm coming back from Louis my lamp guy in
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Washington nights.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Literally, and it's gotten to a point where I don't
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: know if she's doing anything other than rewiring lamps. She's
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: not even a home to turn them on, because she's just.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Well now, well, now I'm like in this place where
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like redistributing lamps.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is me with my house plans, because one
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: will die or get too big. Yeah it is. It
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: is uh Okham's razor I always have, or it's a
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Gordian knot. It's one of those adages.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I always have more plants than pots, or more pots
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: than plants. I never have the right number. Oh okay,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: either the plant has outgrown it and now I need it,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: So I'm always either buying a plant or buying a pot,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and I will never have the right amount.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So what do you do with the old pots?
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Once you've gotten something that has outgrown its pot and
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: you can be potting it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I'll keep the smaller one, but then I'll need something
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: even smaller than that, and then I'll look it up
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and they'll say, whatever you do, don't put it in
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: that pot. And then or it'll be too big or
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: too little, or the plant has gotten out. It's just
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: like there's never it's never just gonna equal hour this
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: your algorithm is showing, let's get into fern Gully.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: What is this? I, for whatever reason, randomly follow this account.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: It's a fern.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I know this fern. I know this fern. This fern guy.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: This guy has a giant fern.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: A giant fern, and he just recently just took it outside.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: It's been inside for the winter, and I'm like, I watched.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Him do it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yep, you get the fern's name.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: It's like taller than he is.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, I almost said Joey, but yeah, Jeff.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Jeff the fern guy. Yeah, CJ.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: How did I just found it?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Jeff the fern.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: When he has to move it, it looks like it's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: moving on its own. It's so big, it's really.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Big, and I'm always afraid.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I'm always afraid that he's going to kill it eventually
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: because a lot of the leaves are coming off.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I will tell you I've gotten ferns. Its like gifts.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Immediately dead, immediately dead, immediately dead.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Ever, they don't even make it through the weekend. Not
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: even a fortnite. There's no not a fortnight, not a fortnite,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: not even a fortnite.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Funny, Andre says fortnite all the time, like normal, like
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: it's regular. You know what else? He also says, what
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: is that by the crow flies? Whatever that is? And
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: when we first started dating, I was like, what is that?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: What is as the crow flies?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: And I'm just used to it now, But now I
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: have to look at the people who aren't used to
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: it when he says it, and they're just like, what
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: is he?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: What did Andre say?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: You don't live anywhere particularly Bucolic. Why is he saying
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that's the crow flies?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: We'll ask him. As the other thing I wanted to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: tell you about crying. Okay, I cried again. I did
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you did this?
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: It is some account that I follow it's based out
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: of the UK, and this woman is finding people's long
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: lost relatives. And these two guys found each other, their
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: brothers and immediately weeping in tears. And they found each
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: other on their mother's birthday.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Who has died or something?
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, And now I'm sitting there on stupidly crying
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: for strangers on the internet who have found each other.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Now you're crying.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: That's so beautiful.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: It is kind of I feel like that's.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Going to be a movie or something. Someone's going to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: make that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: But it's multiple. It's not just these two guys. It's
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: this woman.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: She's got a show that airs on Channel whatever in
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: the UK. Yeah, she's always finding people. And my favorite
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: ones are do you know what the Madeline the Magdalen
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Laundries are?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, So she's.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Always finding like these children who are now getting reunited
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: with their Magdalen Laundry Mothers's so sad. It's so awful.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: For people who don't know what the Magdalen Laundries were.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: It wasn't Ireland. And what would happen was if there
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: was a woman who was pregnant out of wedlock, they
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: would take their baby away from them. Basically, and it
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: was all through the Catholic church.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Horrible Horrible Heart.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of TV shows sort of based
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: on this premise too, of their birth mother.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: There's like a documentary that's very interesting, Super Super Sad.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I called a detention center and there was a baby
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: crying in the background.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Is the baby with the parent? Ooh? That is really
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: upsetting for me.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I was calling to talk to my client, so I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, you have these moments where you're like,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: can I start shit right now? And I was like,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I can't. I got to talk to my client, like
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I can't deal with this baby. Ask your client, no,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I asked. I asked the lady behind the counter. I said, Oh,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: it's bring your child to workday.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Would she say to you?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: She said no, it's like, oh, whose baby is that?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to be You don't have
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to yell to be a bitch.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: No, you don't. You know my feeling about that, they.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Can actually you can be really quiet bitch. And that's
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: what I did. This was a very Melissa Albanache coded
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: thing to do. I was like, Oh, whose kid is that?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? Right? I just that's what I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: just that's what I did. Well, what do you what
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: do you mean it's a detainee.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Why who's taking care of him? Yeah? Do you have kids?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, they're so cute when they're at that age, right,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: they always want to be with.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Their parents always.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Anyway, what do you have for lunch? Right? Yeah? So
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, just sitting in the uncomfortable moment of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: that phone call.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I love that actually, But yeah, is your plans for
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the fourth of July?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Okay? So the fourth of July it's always like a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: nightmare for me. I always have like the word the weirdest.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: There's just never everything's really crowded, everything's really hot. I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: can never do anything, so I end up just like
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: staying home. But there are like three recipes that I make.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: But are you going to add more seasoning?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I am because one is a pasta salad, and I'm
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: learning from my black friends.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I love a pasta salad.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Love pasta salachy put tuna in it. No, I do
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: one with them without. It's the same recipe, and then
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I'll add tuna to one. That way, if I'm like
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I need a little protein in my lunch, I'll just
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: eat that for lunch or I have the other version
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: as just like a side dish that can go with
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: any sort of protein. But then I make a Millie
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Pear Tree. She's a chef. She owned a restaurant and
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the Bronx, and she's a New York Times food writer
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: cooking writer, and she has this really good strawberry lemonade cake.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Hmm, that sounds good and it's.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Glazed with lemon I'm allergic to strawberries, So I do raspberries?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Are you really?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I did not know that about it. Yeah, I will
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: go down, will you die?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I not that with eggplant egg plante.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: This is such a weird thing saying egg plant tastes
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: like something that people would be allergic to. Like, when
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you're eating it, you're like, this has the texture and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: mouth feel of something that would make your throat close up.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: You know, theyste the meanings. Yeah, I'm like there's I'm
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not feeling that, but I'm like, when I'm eating it,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this would kill someone.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: This has all But there's a whole segment of the
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: population of the world who's just loving babagash, like yes,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: and they're not allergic to it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's something. It's like, it's like, do
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: you ever hear of this? There's a product called plumpy nut.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: You know what that is? Excuse me, no, no, no.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: It's actually really it's really, it's actually really important. Plumpy
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: nut is a very nutrient dense paste that they make
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: out of peanuts for usually children who are starving, right,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: and they also will give it to nursing mothers. And
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I remember it was years ago on like sixty minutes
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: before sixty minutes became what it is.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Now fifty it became fifty nine minutes.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: They were talking to one of the doctors who runs
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the program and they asked to said, well, what about
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: peanut allergies. The guy was just like, that's in America.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: That's some white people.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Shuit, Well, I.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Don't think that because because I know not I know
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: black people who have a penia allergy. My cousin all
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: her kids have peenut allergies. But he was like, that
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: is an American That is very much an American problem. Like,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: for whatever reason, I don't know what it is that
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: either we are exposed to in the United States or
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: those kids are not exposed to that makes it so
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: that they are they do not have peanut allergies, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that's about.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, it's interesting.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, America's wild. I mean, fourth of July. It's the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: two undred and fiftieth anniversary. Okay, are you going to be
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: doing anything different? Are you ready? The Atlantic's reporting on it, actually,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I mean they said it's going to be a disaster.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it will be a disaster. We think he touches,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: turns to.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Shit America two fifty. But as tensions emerged, Trump created
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: his own group, Freedom two fifty. Come on, So Trump
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: created his own group Freedom two fifty in the National
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Park Foundation, which is organizing signature projects and has received
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the majority of the one hundred and fifty million that
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Congress allocated to the anniversary events.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: So what's he going to do?
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: A traveling fair of sanitized American history?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Very good? CJ? Okay, CJ is coming in, hot shots fired.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's going to be like very a whitewashed
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: history of America.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Right, It's going to be like Kid Rock again performance.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Discovered by Columbus. It'll be like it'll be like, yeah,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Kid Rock on a motocross bike doing a backflip in
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: front of the White House.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: We can see fireworks from the roof of our building
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: and we don't even do it anymore. I'm just so uninterested.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, artists are dropping out. Martina McBride dropped out. I'm
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: shocked she was confirmed. Why country singer she was? I
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's got her niche, she's got her name.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I think is her niche Maga.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I would imagine that there are a lot of and
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: this is a blanket statement. I know it doesn't plan
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: to everybody, so calm down, but I feel like a
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: lot of people feel like country music is very American, right,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: and very pro America. Yea, And so this idea that
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: like maga is also pro America, and they would think
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: that country performers are like mega.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the inauguration in twenty sixteen, there was
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like one rocket that performed.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: It's just the one.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: They like gave the rockets the option of performing, and
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: only one said yes. It was like one or two?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Did she kick by herself?
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I figure? And it was now that they were like
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and now the rocket.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Julie is Julie the rocket, there was only one.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I wonder, I mean, I he's a sociopath, so he
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: probably doesn't care, but I wonder what he thinks.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Sure, okay, what does he saying?
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Curs. His president called for the cancelation of the concerts
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: after everyone dropped out, and said in a post on
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: truth Socialida he would kick off the fair with an
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: opening ceremony because no one wants to perform now, even
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Julie the one rocket. He called himself the number one
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: attraction in the world. Anyway, number one attractions usually don't
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: have to open for themselves, right, there's usually an opening.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Like the person who says, you know, I am the
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: least racist person in the world.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: They're always the most racist person in the world. I
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: you know, I am, Like what ever? I am?
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I remember one time, is years ago when I was
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: still like an administrative assistant. Somebody called and my boss
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: wasn't there, and I was like, would you like to
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: leave a message or would you like to leave a
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: voicemailon She said I would like to leave a message.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I said sure, and she gave me her name, you know,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Jane Smith. And I said from where and she said, really,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I'm actually quite famous.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Famous people often don't don't have to remind you they're famous.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh, I'm sorry, I guess
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know from where you're famed.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Like I just was like, I was like, well, I
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: don't know who you are. And she was like wow,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: She's like that's really interesting. I'm home.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Who was it?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Her name was?
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: She was like? She was like big and like her
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: in her day, in her day, in her realm.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: She wasn't a celebrity. It was that profession. She was
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: very well known. Oh get Ben, no way if you're
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the regional director of the Yeah no, I mean she.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Had written lots of textbooks and all these other things,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: and I get it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: But the assistant, right, you're not the person boss knew.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Who Boss came in and I was just like listen.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Jane Smith called and she's very unhappy with me, and
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: she said why. She said she was upset that I
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: didn't know who she was. She told me she was
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: quite famous, and she laughed.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: She was like okay, she was like, yeah, she actually is,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: but it's fine. I was like, so weird.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I was at a wedding and this guy had been
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: he'd been in a lot of stuff, like he was
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: like a name, but it had been a minute. It
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: had been a minute. He wasn't maybe readily recognizable as
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that person. This man went out of his way to
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: let me know that.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: He was who he was. Yes, okay, tell me who
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: he was. We'll bleep it out.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I honestly could can't remember.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: But were they like famous t V Star movie. They
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: weren't singing.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: She was in like a lot in Broadway and TV
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and movies as like the Gay Best Friend, but like
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: in early nineties, you know what I mean, So it
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: had been a long time, so A didn't look like
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that anymore. You've been seen and B since that movie,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: people were really talking about it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I wish I remembered what the movie was. I saw
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Julia Roberts on the street the other day, did you
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: that was A that was a big deal. That was
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a big exciting But it just shows you, especially now
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: with the World Cup, how an international New York is
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: because no one was bothering miss Julia, Miss Roberts, right,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I also unbothered.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Feel like in New York.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is going to sound so like snippy,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: but like we kind of see celebrities a lot.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: We do, and I didn't stop her, right.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: And the thing about celebrities, like everybody else, when they
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: are out, they just look so regular and sometimes it
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: takes a second to realize that the person is who
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: they are. Like I remember one time I saw Julianne
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Moore and I was like walking down the street and
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I looked up and I was like, that woman looks
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: very familiar. Yeah, And then it was like after she
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: walked by, I'm like, oh, that was Julianne Moore.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: But I was never And I've also seen Alec Baldwin.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Oh he's always. He's here right now, like he's always.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: He just reminds me of like over Grizzly Bear.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I've seen him, like I see him all the time
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and mess and I've seen him like on the phone,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: like he'll be like and someone will come up to
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, you're Alec Balderon and he goes, I.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Know, I know who I am, Like, I know, I'm
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: just on the I'm.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: On the phone right now. I know Like he knows
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: he's out in these streets, he knows that he's.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Well, he's just walking around.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: He's not even attempting to know to evade public.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: He I remember one time I saw him with one
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: of his one of his many children. Yeah, and I
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: was just like, oh the things I've seen him so
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: many times.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Then, just like a pixture going on, New York Ya.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I think that I forgot?
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you're reaching that? Are you reaching that stage
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: of your life?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Saw going on?
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: That's fine. I walk into rooms all the time and
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why am I here? And then I have
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: to walk out and walk back in.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: My life really is like one giant notes app right now.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I just put everything in there and then I'm like,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: what does this mean? Sorry? Okay? World Cup?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: The World Cup. So I was just saying, how.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: We're hoping the colonizers get trounced.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: We do.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: But what's super interesting though about that is that a
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: lot of the countries that were historically had been like
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: an all white team, like France for example.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because of immigration.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Everybody on the French team is of African descent, born
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and raised in France.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: They are French.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Are they born and raised in Prince Okay?
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: They are French, right, but they came from because of
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: their family colony? No, no, no, no, no, they know they
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: they're children of immigrants, Like I am.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I was just thinking, like, or is it
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: that that France is recruiting their players from a French still,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: like from a French country.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Maybe, but that's but in this particular case, in this team,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: that is not the case.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, It's really interesting.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: But what's what I think is so funny is that
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: so many people don't understand how that works.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Right, So I don't clearly what do you mean?
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Of course you do?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you meant just like how recruiting for
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: sports teams? No, no immigration works.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, literally have one job.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I thought you meant, like how sports recruiting works. Definitely,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: have no idea.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, but how like it is possible for somebody,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: for somebody who is Greek to look like me because
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: of immigration.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: But so many people don't understand that. Yeah, like why
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: don't you get it?
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Like it's it's not hard, you know what I mean?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: But but I'm wondering what is hard about?
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Well, for me, it's like a Ruba Like the Dutch
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: soccer team. Do they have players from Aruba, which is
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: like a Dutch colony? You know what I mean? No?
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Not unless their parents were born in the Netherlands. In
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: the Netherlands, it goes back in generation.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, oh oh wow, that's how that works, right, yeah, I.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Mean that's just how general immigration works. Who's not getting that?
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: A lot of.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: People call me no, A lot of people were just like,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: what do you mean. It's like when people realized that
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: there were black people in Scotland, they were like, whoa, yeah,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: because you don't expect, you don't expect, right, But that's.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Not how that works, do you know what I mean?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting that there are so many
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: people who don't understand how that is possible.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: This is black creator. I follow. She's in China and
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: she speaks like perfect Mandarin, and her whole all of
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: her content is just her having the most insane interactions
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: with Chinese people who are just like shocked, very shocked
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: to see that she's fluent, yeah culture.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: American and who spoke perfect, perfect Mandarin. And she would say,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: and this is when I was still doing like immigration law,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: and she would get like, she's a paralegal also, and
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: she got a lot of the Chinese clients who some
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: of them would not talk to her really because they
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: were it was too much.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: It was too much my mind.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: No, I can't, I can't do it. Yeah.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: She also said that she lived in China for a
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: while and for a while she didn't want to be
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: out after school because some kids who had never seen
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: a black person that they would like scream and they
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: would point in whatever the word for blackest they would
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: like say it and point at her, and she was like, well,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: that doesn't feel like shit, I'm gonna stay inside.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: You've seen the video of like the schoolgirls like screaming
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: because there were two boys kissing. They were like so excited.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: They were filming it safe. It's like these guys. They
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: were just like driving. The two gay guys pulled over
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: in a car and the video is of them like laughing,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and then out the window is like twenties black school
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: girls screaming like ten year olds screaming like yes, like
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: because they were like two boys. And then they were
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: like do it again, do it again, do it again?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: And it's not like salicious. They like peck on the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: lips and they go the girl starts from one girl
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: fell down. It got like trampled because they were like
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: do it, do it, do it. It's so cute. I
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: love it. Let's gonna under oath. This is a deep
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: dive into a hot topic right now.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: What are we going to talk about?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about trademark infringemen. Let's you want to talk
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: about Patagonia Patagonia. So Patagonia suing a drag queen named Pattygonia.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: First, what tell people what Patagonia is.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Patagonia, you don't know, is a clothing company kind of
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: like Ellobean. It's like Arii outdoor clothing. Okay, it's like
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Hike and gear. But it's also become like kind of
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: like a statusy symbol. Like all the finance bros on
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: all the.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Finance bros have those those the vests.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know your near a law firm or financial
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: institution when you see a guy in a white button
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: down shirt with one of those puffer vestas and the vest.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Will have usually the name of the company like Stitch Yeah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I'll say Patagonia.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: And so last year the drag queen Patagonia great name,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: filed a trademark application for exclusive rates to use her
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: brand to sell merch and to promote active and online marketing.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: So the tea about Patagonia is that she does a
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: lot of environmental outdoors sort of advocacy. There is like
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: this social environmental element to her drag. It's not just
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: cross dressing, okay. So in May twenty seven, Patagonia, the
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: company the clothing company, posted to its website that Patagonia
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: violated a previous agreement the two of them had struck
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: over the use of the name and logo Patagonia. Patagonia
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: denies that any such agreement was reached, so they were
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: in some sort of negotiation agreement over like how much
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: of that trademark she could use. So a few weeks ago,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the drag queen Patagonia released a video offering to drop
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the trademark that she wanted if the company drops their
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: countersuit against her. So basically how trademarks work is that
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: in order for you to maintain your company's trademark status,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: you have to proactively sue. So if someone starts using
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: your your logo or something that is like closely attributed
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to that company, like the McDonald's arch or something like that,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: or like who are those jesters? Who's the guy? Is
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: the Ronald McDonald? Like that sort of image, who is
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that clown? You start using one of those images It's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: kind of like you have to proactively defend your trademark
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: otherwise it dilutes the value of it and people can
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: start using it. So that is sort of how and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: why they were suing Patigonia.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: When somebody has a trademark, right, and you, I guess
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: you own your trademark. Your company owns your trademark. Do
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: you have that forever?
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Or is it for X amount of years.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Or ten years from the registration date. You have the
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: option to renew for an additional ten year period, so
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: every decade you have the option to renew your trademark.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: So I wonder what would happen if Patagonia, the company,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: if they have their trademark for ten years, right, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: they forget right? Yeah, can Patty?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I think so?
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Interesting?
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yea, But like Patagonia is a publicly traded but if yeah, hypothetically, hypothetically, yeah,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the company is set on Instagram, they can resolve the
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: matter if patty Agonia withdraws all trademark applications and stops
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: using the logo. Interesting. I mean, it feels like a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: David versus Goliath situation where we've got, you know, a
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: queer person trying.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: To basically a small business owner.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Create art and sell merch and like, we know that
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: most most drag queens are struggling to get by, many
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: are maybe not most, And then we've got like the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: big evil corporation. Right, but I was watching an interview
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: with the CEO, oh and he was like we only
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I think they only suit her for a dollar because
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: they were like, we have to maintain our true, they're
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: not going after money, They're just trying to preserve their trademark. Okay,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: which if they let PATTYGONI you start using it.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Then everybody will.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: I would love to know what Patty, like, what what
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: is Patty's Patty? If you're out there or if you
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: are a friend of Patty, what'd you come on our
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: show and talk to us. I'm really curious as to
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: what it is that you were hoping to accomplish what
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: you're doing. I'm just curious because I also wonder about
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: obviously Patagonia is a huge company, right, Yeah, what did
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Patty think was going to happen? What could you anticipate?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: You know, what if you're especially if you're registering a
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: trademark to create march, right, It's like I think they
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: have that already.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Well or well, I guess. I wonder though, if you
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: can make an argument right that she is and I
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: don't know that she was going to trademark Patty p
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: A T T I E.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Space Gonia whereas Patagonia.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: But I think it was like the merchant was like
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Patty Gonia in the same like logo shape on the vests,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: okay as Patagona. Sure, so I think it was how
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: she said anything.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: I think it's like it's an ongoing lawsuit, so I'm
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: not sure she can.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: But it's an ongoing lawsuit, so I don't think she's
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: like commenting publicly.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Basically, she did release a video saying like she'll drop
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: her trademark if the company drops the lawsuit, so I
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: bet they're gonna.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, So here here's the thing. So Patty, excuse me,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Patty Gonia, who uses she her and they then when
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: they're in drag, but out of drag identifies as a
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: gay male.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: He was an organ, right, So if you I just
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: feel like, if you.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Are sort of like, if what he does is very local, yeah,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: to his community, then we wouldn't necessarily hear about somebody
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: like that unless you are very like tuned into like
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: environmental stuff.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Patagonia raised three point she Pattigna raised three point seven
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: million for nonprofits and is a community organizer and climate activist.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: So I love that. Yeah, I love that drag has
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: become so much more than like dancing for tips and
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: a dollar. Yeah, that's still what I want in a
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: drag queen, though, when I go out, I want you
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: want to be entertained. I want that. I don't want,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: but like, and that's not to say like both can't
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: exist or ones better than the other. I'm just like,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I guess it's like good that like drag is occupying
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: like every space, right, I'm sure Patigonia is getting asked
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: to go to marches and like protests. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: to be to like help fundraise for environmental You are,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you know, going to Gallas and or But.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: If you are like a I don't know, a company
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: or an institution that is you know, environmentally based, Yeah,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: you could probably reached out to Patty for example, Yes,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: because it opens up another audience for you, right, So yeah.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's just so interesting to watch like how
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: drag has evolved too. I mean a lot of drag
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: queens lament.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: How it's become is it watered down?
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe not watered down, yes in some ways, but also
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: how drag queens have new expectations from mainstream society. Like
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: drag queens have always been like drug dealers and sex workers,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and like it was never Miss America and now it is.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I think because of Repulse Drag Race it has become
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: a lot like Miss America in many ways.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: The expectations on them are that they're supposed to be
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: perfect people sometimes and it's like not really what drag
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: originally was, or many drag queens came up not with that.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: But there is like this new generation of drag queens
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: that came out of RuPaul's Drag Race, who are a
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: lot younger, who are thinking of themselves more as maybe
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: an activist or a public figure or getting into politics
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: rather than someone who works at a nightclub or or but.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Also an entertainer on a bigger class from on a
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: bigger stage.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I think it's like anything else, it's.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: An evolution, right, it didn't most things don't stay the same,
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: they kind of change, right, So this is what that is,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: and it's in RuPaul's drag race has made it super popular.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: And it's like that for I mean, it's like that
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: in so many things, right, like even the Pride Parade
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: this year. Every year it's like, well, it didn't used
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: to be Pride, used to be appro to, Like it
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: used to be like this, and now we're there are
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: kids there, and oh you shouldn't have the soprietaries. Should
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: there should be cop surpride, There shouldn't be king Like
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: there's always a one gen saying there should or should
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: not be something over the other who's saying the opposite.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Somebody's to be like, well, you don't know what it
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: was like for us, Yeah, and I wonder though should
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: there not be I don't know, coming from a place
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: of gratitude that things have changed, and it's more it
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: is sort of more family. There's their space for everybody.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: The one thing I will say that I can appreciate
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: that some people would be annoyed about is how you know,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: June first, every bank, every whatever, all of a sudden
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: it's got our rainbow flag in front of it, and
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: July first, it's gone. It's sort of like the way
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: that Black History Month, right, it just feels like there
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: is this population of person that is being used, and.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I'm always like, use me, but make sure that you're
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: putting your money towards these issues twelve months out of
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the year correct or at all. Right, many just use
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the Pride flag and they'll do it in New York City,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: but they won't do it in Alabama. And then they
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: once they take it down, right, and they put no
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: money towards any issue whatsoever. They have no DEI in
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: their company, they've they've erased all d because they don't
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: want to piss off the Trump administration. Like so many
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: organizations do that, not just like in the private sector,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: but also in like the nonprofit space. So I think
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: that when it comes to I don't really care how
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: you use the rainbow flag or like what that is
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: for you for I really don't care. But as long
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: as you know you get in the voting booth and
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: you're voting for those rights, you're not just using it
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: to promote something. That's where it pisses me.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Off, right, And I think that they're same with black history, right.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I think that's that there's a lot of that exactly.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably what's mostly happening. It's just a
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: marketing tool at this point.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: And it just you know, and like I said, I
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: can completely understand why you could be annoyed. Were you know,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: because City Bank has afloat, right, somebody.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Else can't participate, right, right? Maybe like a smaller right, Yeah, a.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Smaller company that's a queer company, do you know what
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: I mean? Like that, So because these big giant corporations
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: are deciding to sort of swoop in and be like
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: the saviors of the gays, you know what I mean,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: it's like the white savior for the black people.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Like it's and like I have that reaction. It's complicated
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: for me because I'm like at this point in my life,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I don't go to pride anymore.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: I can ask you, I don't go, and I know
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: you haven't gotten to like.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: The New York Pride Pride has been like a decade,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: but most of my friends and queer people I know
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: have their own type of pride something in New York,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: whether it's a party or everyone just goes to the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: same bar, or if there's like a Brooklyn block party
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: or something. And so I'm still having that experience that
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I would have, I guess if I were going to
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: the Pride Parade twenty years ago that you know people
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: are lamenting. It's no longer like that. But then I
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: difference from the South who are straight, who are going
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: to be in New York, who are reaching out like, oh, hey,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: are you going to the big New York City Pride
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: parade like it's the Thanksgiving Macy's Day Parade, And I'm like, oh,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: maybe this doesn't This isn't a net negative, right, Like,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: this isn't a blanket negative. Just because it's not for
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: me anymore doesn't mean it's not for someone, right, and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: that someone Maybe the there is positive to it, even
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: though there is negative of city bank gets afloat and
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the small group doesn't like, maybe that doesn't cancel all
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: the good out of it.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: You You feel.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Some type of way, right that there are straight people
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: coming in from wherever and they're coming to sort of
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: watch this parade.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: No, I think that's fine. That doesn't bother me, okay,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: because I've always sort of like been raised around me
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: like get exposed to whatever, like the otherness of it.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Being exposed to it is only going to sort of
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: like desensitize you to the stigma of it, right, or
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: any perceived stigma of it. Right, there's always going to
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: be you know, like a naysayer or whatever. But I
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: do that doesn't bother me. Now, what do you think?
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: It's not my parade, do you know what I mean?
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I never was a parade for you.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: But I used to go to the parade all the time.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was working for an organization that had
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: a big part in the parade, and then I started.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Volunteering for things.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of thing to do with
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: pride is generally Now, I just don't want to be
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: in a I don't want to be uncomfortable in a crowd,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: regardless of the reason. Right, Like you would not catch
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: me like the next thing, I'm not going.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I can't And I don't want to be drunk at
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: two pm. Well that's a parade.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: That's a choice.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you don't have to me.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: You don't have to be drunk at two pm, Michael,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I guess at a.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Parade, I'm like, there's nothing else to do.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Do you think that now, maybe because World Cup tourism
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: in New York City that there would be people from
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know, like Iran or something that gets to the.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: People from Iran. They actually they had to go. They
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: couldn't get to Seattle. I don't know that they went
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: to the parin no no, no, no no. So CJ is saying, like,
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: do we think that maybe like because of the World
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Cup likes a group of people like Iranians who don't
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: have anything like that.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: It's you know, it's illegal to be gay in Iran, right,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: so are they now here experiencing that? And I was
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: just saying that I don't think they're in New York anymore.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I think they had to leave because of some weird
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: immigration thing.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Now you can't just like be here, yeah, vibe and
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: like as I.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Wonder what kind of vise that the players have.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I did a heated rivalry breakdown of
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: the immigration status of Ilya. People really loved that, but
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: it was more comedy than I think. Sure it was
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: wonder based on truth.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I wonder what kind of visa it is, because well, there's.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Like extraordinary skill uses, but that's really for like a
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: long term stary.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: That's for somebody who's like like employed.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Who's going to like be here playing for the next
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: or something like that would be how you would get
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: that long term right.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: So do you think it's just a yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I would have I would imagine so.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually have no idea with the host nations
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: to make an exception for the PJ hired.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: He's hired. Look at him sing.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: For the Iranian team. The players on the team, they
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: the DHS said that they had ties to the IRGC.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't.
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: That's why they couldn't stay.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: They they They were interviewing one.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Of the players and he was saying, how yeah, this
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: has been a disaster for them.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I want to like, I just I can't not say.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: This is just such a nightmare for us. The geopolitics
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: of what we have done, all we have dug ourselves
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: into is going to take twenty years to get out of.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, we should never be allowed to host anything like this.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Again, people aren't shaking jd Vance's hand at like global
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: summits like that. No, But it's like that's how in
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: the dumps. Reputation is like these little decisions, this reflection pool.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: But these were not little decisions, right, These are like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: because sixteen million dollars on a pool that doesn't work
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: is not a little decision. When you have cut medicaid
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Medicare food stamps.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Right. I was abroad for a few weeks and I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: was trying to keep up with the news and I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: could only get like certain local news channels, and they
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: were always cutting away to Marco Rubio because he is
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: sort of like the person you cut to when you're
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: talking about international news. And I was like, oh my god,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: this whole country thinks this guy is like our are
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: appointed authority that we we all.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: They couldn't possibly well, I will.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I was concerned because I was like, every single day
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I'm watching the news and they're talking about crazy thing happens.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Let's cut to Marco Rubio, Who's going to tell you
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: about it? And I was like, not her.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think that the world over thinks that that
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: most Americans.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Hope, I don't think.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: I was very much like, oh please, I don't think so,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: please please do a quick google.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think, though. I've had people ask me to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: be like so, like, are you guys all right? What's
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: going on? Do you know?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: I mean? Like? People are you okay?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: And then they tell me where they're from, and I'm like,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you're worried about me?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I know, but like fair, fair.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: They're paying attention. They're paying attention, So I get it.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: This, This tells from the dms. This are all the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: wicked and wild freak things to send us everybody.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: What do I always say?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: While Michael is a lawyer, he's not your lawyer, so
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: find someone else.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: But I am that bitch.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely a bit.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not the two or the three. I'm the one.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: It is that that saying.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I think people say that I might have mixed it up.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, so we have a bunch she said, Okay, disregard anyway.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: So we have some really cute reviews. So I want
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: to read this one because I thought it was fun.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Which episode is it from?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Can we call out gay from work in Pride Month?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: So this is Swedish Latina. It just reminded me of
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: my mom.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: My Latina mom sent me to school with the dislocated
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: thumb worth mentioning that I was only born I was
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: born with only one hand, so it's a bit difficult
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: navigate with that a.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Functioning hand, something that my mother would do.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know this person is for real or if
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: they're kidding, but like, yeah.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I was born with only one hand.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Swedish Latina, Are you making fun of us Swedish Latina.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: That's an example. Well, they've written ambushies. That's also an
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: example of immigration and sports and having a person of
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: color on it. Yeah, so Swedish Latina. Let us know
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: if you play soccer. This one's from Nick's Knockouts and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Congressional call Outs with Laura Dunn. Who thought of that title?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Who thought of that title?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: It was CJ. But we co signed CJ. We co signed.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: That's tongue twist Aarah. Okay, this person at Laura duncan Okay,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: this is it's Laura. It didn't say the real Laura
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Done for congress.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: No, her thing doesn't say that.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: We're so Funae at the end of the episode, okay,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Laura done. Our guest from that episode commented and said,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: always do skirt suits or dresses and high heels. Flats
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: are too informal.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: As an attorney, however, CJ's sister, who was an attorney,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: texted him saying female attorneys absolutely have to wear heels
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: in certain courtrooms depending on the judge. And we talked
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: to each other about the judge who will care so gross. Wow,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: some require skirts for female attorneys. Michael is talking about
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: wearing neutral for juries. But in family law with no jury,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: it's all about the judge.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no jury deciding like the custody of your child.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Let it just go right to the judge. I have
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: something to say about this course because I was traveling
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: for a trial and this was last week, and I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: forgot my shoes.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Do you forgot your shoes?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I forgot to pack like dress shoes for court.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Would you have sneakers?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Sneakers? These sneakers can we on sean Okay? I don't
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: think they're out a frame, just white sneakers. And I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I figured out. I had gone out
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: dinner with my friend I was visiting, hadn't seen her
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: in forever, and I got home late. It was eleven,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: it was like late, and court was early the next day,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: and I had given myself just enough time to go
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: to sleep. I and I'm just laying on my alpha
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: for the next day, and I realized I only have sneakers.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, what'd you do?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I called my friend and I was like, what size
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: is your boyfriend? What size shoe does he wear? It
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: was going to be like a Thumbelina situation, because I'm like,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I'm a thirteen and he was like an eight, Like
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: he's got little nine. There was no way it was
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: going to be. It was going to be the ugly
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: stepsister in Cinderella just shoving her massive foot into the shoes. Yeah.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: So I got in an uber and I went to
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: like a Walmart, like a big box store, and forty
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: dollars for the ugliest shoes. I would not wish these
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: shoes upon any ex boyfriend, any enemy, nobody.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: So what do you do with the shoes?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Well? I was like, do I even donate these monstrosities
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: after I use them? I did. I put them in
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I put them in the box outside my building of
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: donating shoes. But I did only wear them once and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I spend forty dollars. I was honestly like, these might
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: be more prejudicial to the judge than the white sneakers.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: They were so ugly, they were so bad.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: But they were like it was really it was rough,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I really had a moment where I was like, Wow,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I'm living that question from the pod. Will it be
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  Speaker 1: more prejudicial for me to show up looking a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more informal than to take that extra step, and
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  Speaker 1: I took that extra step.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think would have happened?
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  Speaker 1: Well, now that I've been in the courtroom, m I
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  Speaker 1: don't think the judge would have ever really seen my
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  Speaker 1: feet because the table was really big and I was
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  Speaker 1: miked and I didn't have to stand and pace or anything,
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  Speaker 1: so I was seated at a table miked. So really
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  Speaker 1: just me getting from the gallery to my seat would
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  Speaker 1: be that would be when the judge she would have
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  Speaker 1: seen my shoes.
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  Speaker 2: But you didn't. But you didn't know that going in.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, you decided to err on.
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  Speaker 1: Now I know, but I'm still going to bring You know,
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  Speaker 1: if I go before that judge again, I'm absolutely bringing
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  Speaker 1: dress shoes. I wouldn't be like, let me fuck around.
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  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, you forgot no, yeah, yeah forgot, yeah, Okay, okay, Alexa.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gay as the wind. I'm gay as the wind,
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  Speaker 3: and I won't be in today and possibly tomorrow too.
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  Speaker 2: Heart.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's good. I think it's healthy, especially now
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  Speaker 1: that d I is getting cut. Call your boss and
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  Speaker 1: tell them how gay you are and let them know
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  Speaker 1: you're not coming to work. And you know what the
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  Speaker 1: ball is now in their court. Let them fire your ass.
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  Speaker 2: For being gay, for being gay, and then you can
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  Speaker 2: sue them. Let's go love it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's dance, Let's dance. You know what. We're in a
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  Speaker 1: staring contest and I ain't got it's from Pride. Month's
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  Speaker 1: special conversion therapy is abuse. Shila turn in her twenty
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  Speaker 1: three says, I would ride my beach cruiser to the
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  Speaker 1: tanning bed every day until like twenty eleven. She was
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  Speaker 1: taking her beach cruiser to the tanning bed. Twenty eleven
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  Speaker 1: was that was? That was a year when everyone was
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  Speaker 1: really eyes wide open about the tanning beds being bad
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  Speaker 1: for you. No one was. There were very few pro
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  Speaker 1: tanning bed folks.
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  Speaker 2: Are people still using tanging beds?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Are you just using self tanner?
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  Speaker 1: I would be hard pressed to find one a tanning
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  Speaker 1: bed right you're asking me, you're asking me, I don't
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  Speaker 1: see color.
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  Speaker 2: When people say that, When people say that, still say that,
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  Speaker 2: don't say that.
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  Speaker 1: But I would be hard pressed to find a tanning
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  Speaker 1: bread right now. If I need, if someone had a
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  Speaker 1: gun to my head, I'd be like, I don't really know.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like people have gone the way of self
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  Speaker 3: tan or maybe spray tans.
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  Speaker 1: I went to a spray ten with my friend once.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen how they do it?
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  Speaker 2: We aren't You want to look a look a diperl and
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  Speaker 2: you're just yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much. But the one she I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: what was I doing there, but it was it was
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  Speaker 1: like a booth where they basically like shoot it at you. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was like an airbrush person. Oh, she
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  Speaker 1: went into like a machine that just like kind of
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  Speaker 1: it's like a firing squad, just like shell act and
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  Speaker 1: then there's like an alarm and you turn to the
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  Speaker 1: other side.
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  Speaker 3: So you're really hoping that the person who's doing it
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  Speaker 3: is skilled and knows how to do it evenly, otherwise
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  Speaker 3: you'll end up person.
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  Speaker 1: Was this was like a phone booth. You walk in
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  Speaker 1: and you press the button. It's like the automatic car wash.
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  Speaker 2: So it's probably better than a person.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, maybe not, I feel like a person. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess the human error. Yeah you're right, yeah right?
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  Speaker 2: But then is she was she wearing like a bonnet too?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was wearing she had like a whole pre
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  Speaker 1: and then it was just like a lady at the counter.
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  Speaker 1: I think it got her face too. Yeah, I mean
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: she looked chopped. So it's not good. You know what.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get out of here before I offense everyone in
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  Speaker 1: my life and alienate all friends colleagues.
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  Speaker 3: Loved what I mean as somebody who's never gone tanning
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  Speaker 3: have Now I have questions.
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  Speaker 1: Now, we have a lot of questions. Let us know
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  Speaker 1: your weirdest tanning story. I want to know, did you
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: go into labor in a tanning bed? Let us know.
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  Speaker 3: I have an aunt who really hates it when we
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  Speaker 3: get to like she doesn't want us to be in
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  Speaker 3: the sun right and.
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  Speaker 2: She always says she was just like, well, you look
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  Speaker 2: like a woosted ducky.
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  Speaker 3: She does, she.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Woosted ducky. She has said that to me many times.
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  Speaker 2: I'm what, like, this is what she says.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, somebody says Caitlin Curry says, Hi, I do like
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  Speaker 3: apparol sprits.
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  Speaker 2: Lol. I mean I've had some ones, but generally I
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  Speaker 2: do enjoyed them.
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  Speaker 3: Happy pride, y'all, the rosa turkey.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go the part I have the church giggles,
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  Speaker 1: They're not gonna go away. I gotta go. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for watching everyone. This has been Brief re since I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's wrong. We'll see you next week. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why that's so funny in my forehead popping out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell my cousin that I just shut it out.
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  Speaker 2: Her Mond Wsted Turkey, I'm kind of hungry.
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  Speaker 2: And Me Melissa Malbranch. Our producer is CJ. Ferroni.
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