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- 0:00Speaker 1: It was the same she had on the scheme he had,
- 0:04Speaker 1: told in a foreign land, to take life on her own.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Good afternoon and welcome to The Muster on Hokanui. Andy
- 0:13Speaker 2: Muir here until two o'clock. The show is brought to
- 0:16Speaker 2: you by Peter Genetics. Thanks to your company, it's overcast,
- 0:20Speaker 2: it's 15 degrees and there's a bit of a breeze
- 0:23Speaker 2: and the weather is getting cooler over the next couple
- 0:25Speaker 2: of days. We'll look at the weather pretty shortly, but nonetheless,
- 0:29Speaker 2: the music today, it's all about China for our first
- 0:33Speaker 2: guest this afternoon. So this is the theme, this song
- 0:36Speaker 2: here by T'Pel. T'Pel.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Hōkanui' s five-day forecast with Twin Farm, Tehrom and Softex.
- 0:46Speaker 2: The proof is in the progeny. This afternoon, partly cloudy
- 0:52Speaker 2: with brisk northwesterlies and a higher 15. Thursday, showers of
- 0:56Speaker 2: breezy westerlies, 4 and 10. Friday, getting cool. Rain with
- 1:00Speaker 2: brisk southwesterlies, 4 and 7. Saturday, on the rebound, sunshine
- 1:04Speaker 2: with breezy westerlies, 6 and 16. Sunday, cloudy with breezy northwesterlies,
- 1:08Speaker 2: 11 and 19. Soil temperatures to hand. Clinton, 12.2. Heriot, 10.3.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Northern Southland, 11.1. Riverton, 12.7. Te Anau, 12.1. Titiroa, 11.7. Winton, 11.1.
- 1:23Speaker 2: And Woodlands, 11. Eric Roy, he's over in China, so
- 1:28Speaker 2: we catch up. He's doing his bit for New Zealand
- 1:31Speaker 2: trade over there. He's in southern China at the moment,
- 1:33Speaker 2: so he gives us a bit more details about why
- 1:35Speaker 2: he's over there. Kylie Fiskin of Mount McLean Plus More
- 1:40Speaker 2: joins us. Graham Butcher, farm consultant. He talks body score
- 1:44Speaker 2: condition and use after lambing. Gina Close, a Dairy NZ,
- 1:50Speaker 2: has a yarn. And then Elliot Warrender, PGG rights and
- 1:54Speaker 2: lifestyle agent. Next week, he's going to the Young Auctioneer
- 1:57Speaker 2: of the Year competition up in Christchurch. He tells us
- 2:00Speaker 2: about his journey to being involved in such a competition.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Speaking of PGG rights, Mark Calder gives a rundown on
- 2:06Speaker 2: the Barclutha sale that was held this morning, and then
- 2:09Speaker 2: it's over to China to catch up with Eric Roy.
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- 2:28Speaker 2: Eric Roy joins us once again this afternoon, although in
- 2:31Speaker 2: a bit more of an exotic location than down here
- 2:34Speaker 2: in the Deep South. He's over in China. Eric, good afternoon,
- 2:37Speaker 2: or in your case, good morning.
- 2:39Speaker 4: Hello.
- 2:40Speaker 5: Yeah, we're in southern China at a place called Ji Yang.
- 2:46Speaker 5: And the big day today is opening a pavilion for
- 2:53Speaker 5: New Zealand associated with the Chaoshan Group. which is developing
- 2:58Speaker 5: business links between, well, Chinese and New Zealand.
- 3:05Speaker 4: And it's not only.
- 3:06Speaker 5: Just the Chaoshan Group is established in a number of countries,
- 3:10Speaker 5: but its centre is here in Zhejiang in China.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Describe the Chinese economy for us in a nutshell, knowing
- 3:19Speaker 2: that it's an absolute behemoth.
- 3:21Speaker 5: Well, it's simply huge, and it would be wrong to
- 3:28Speaker 5: say it doesn't have issues. For example, one of the
- 3:31Speaker 5: things that I've been alerted to is that they've created
- 3:35Speaker 5: quite a business building dormitory cities, and they've got whole
- 3:41Speaker 5: rafts of people, millions of people and companies involved in construction,
- 3:45Speaker 5: and they're now, I'm told, building more of these high-rise
- 3:49Speaker 5: dormitory buildings rental properties, then they've got people to fill
- 3:53Speaker 5: them and they can't sort of stop doing it because
- 3:56Speaker 5: it's going to create an opportunity.
- 3:59Speaker 4: Oh, well, what are these people going to do?
- 4:01Speaker 5: So they've sort of got the tiger by the tail.
- 4:04Speaker 5: But look, here's my kind of take on what's actually happening.
- 4:08Speaker 5: If you look at New Zealand, trading internationally is only
- 4:12Speaker 5: a bit over 200 years old. And for the first
- 4:15Speaker 5: hundred years, we did exceptionally well being linked to Britain
- 4:19Speaker 5: and Europe. After the First and Second World Wars, we
- 4:22Speaker 5: benefited from associations with the USA. If you look now
- 4:27Speaker 5: and say, where's the compass pointing? It's going to Asia
- 4:30Speaker 5: and growing middle classes in China and India and millions
- 4:35Speaker 5: and millions of people wanting the products that New Zealand produces.
- 4:39Speaker 5: And that's why I'm kind of involved. And there's no
- 4:42Speaker 5: doubt that This is a bit personal. People look at
- 4:46Speaker 5: me and say, how are you so big? What have
- 4:49Speaker 5: you been eating? Can we get some of this stuff?
- 4:51Speaker 5: You know, there's just a desire to have good quality food.
- 4:56Speaker 5: And so I'm the perfect example to be wandering around saying,
- 4:59Speaker 5: eat New Zealand.
- 5:00Speaker 2: As far as the prosperity of the state of where
- 5:03Speaker 2: you're based, what would you say?
- 5:06Speaker 5: Oh, look, it goes from really quite poor people to
- 5:11Speaker 5: people that.
- 5:12Speaker 4: Are exceptionally wealthy.
- 5:14Speaker 5: Like getting out of the car park, I was jammed
- 5:16Speaker 5: between a Maserati and a Ferrari in the hotel car
- 5:20Speaker 5: park yesterday. So let's just see the sort of money
- 5:24Speaker 5: that is about. You've just got to say that Tommy
- 5:27Speaker 5: and here are exceptionally wealthy. And there's millions and millions
- 5:32Speaker 5: of them. And as I said, they want to deal
- 5:35Speaker 5: with New Zealand. So the other interesting thing, though, when
- 5:38Speaker 5: I just talk about the Chao Shan group. So in
- 5:41Speaker 5: the diaspora of people that left China in the 1800s,
- 5:45Speaker 5: and some came to New Zealand as gold miners, and
- 5:48Speaker 5: some went to Singapore and America and the Caribbean and Australia,
- 5:53Speaker 5: some of them did quite well. And then they formed
- 5:56Speaker 5: this association when.
- 6:00Speaker 5: China opened up in the mid-70s and said, hang on,
- 6:03Speaker 5: China's now lost a lot of momentum. We've got the ability,
- 6:06Speaker 5: we've got the money, we've got the know-how, we can
- 6:09Speaker 5: go back in there. So that's where the Chaoshan Group
- 6:12Speaker 5: came from. And there's probably 20,000 people with connections into
- 6:19Speaker 5: Canton and Auckland alone. This is New Zealand's opportunity as
- 6:25Speaker 5: part of a big international group.
- 6:26Speaker 4: So there's a pavilion being opened.
- 6:29Speaker 5: And New Zealand has the second away from that pavilion
- 6:33Speaker 5: where we'll have a presence of Chinese New Zealand people saying,
- 6:37Speaker 5: this is what we offer. So there's quite a formidable
- 6:42Speaker 5: range of people. Canada's there, America's there, Australia's there, Germany's there.
- 6:48Speaker 5: And we're all part of it, but we're right in
- 6:50Speaker 5: the inner sanctum of that. So it's about China looking
- 6:54Speaker 5: and saying, internationally, we need to do better. And if
- 6:57Speaker 5: we're not there, then we're missing out. Simple as that.
- 7:02Speaker 2: So the likes of Australia, for example, they'll be there
- 7:04Speaker 2: as well, I suppose, given the economic benefits?
- 7:07Speaker 5: They are, but they're not as close to the main
- 7:10Speaker 5: pavilion as we are.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Why are you so close to the main pavilion then?
- 7:14Speaker 2: Is that just luck of the draw?
- 7:17Speaker 5: No, we've got some very impressive New Zealand Cantonese people
- 7:21Speaker 5: in the Chaoshan movement. One of them has been the
- 7:24Speaker 5: president of the organization internationally, and he looks after our interests,
- 7:28Speaker 5: and he's the guy that I support. It's all about
- 7:31Speaker 5: connectivity and knowing the right people. That's how international detente
- 7:37Speaker 5: and just... development all works. You've just got to work
- 7:41Speaker 5: away at this stuff. It's a bit like aerial top dressing.
- 7:44Speaker 5: You fly around putting on the super and you kind
- 7:46Speaker 5: of hope it works. Spring comes and away it goes.
- 7:48Speaker 5: That's how it works.
- 7:50Speaker 2: That's one of the great comparisons of China I've had
- 7:52Speaker 2: with top dressing, Eric. But as far as selling our
- 7:56Speaker 2: story with China, what do we need to do better
- 7:59Speaker 2: or differently?
- 8:02Speaker 5: Well, it's about forming those associations and just saying to people,
- 8:07Speaker 5: This is where we're at now. One of the big
- 8:09Speaker 5: growth things that's really helping New Zealand is tourism from
- 8:14Speaker 5: China into New Zealand. I think they're about third or
- 8:16Speaker 5: fourth now as a visiting nation. And when they're here,
- 8:20Speaker 5: we need to give them the very best experiences they
- 8:23Speaker 5: can get.
- 8:24Speaker 4: And that all helps as well.
- 8:25Speaker 5: And the work that's been done with free trade agreements
- 8:30Speaker 5: and things things like I'm doing today, having a presence
- 8:35Speaker 5: where trade is being talked and business is going on,
- 8:38Speaker 5: all of that just forms, there's no one sectional thing,
- 8:41Speaker 5: we just have to be aware of all opportunities and
- 8:44Speaker 5: have people standing there doing their promotion or answering the
- 8:49Speaker 5: questions or just being available, that's how it works.
- 8:54Speaker 2: What about New Zealand wool, what opportunities do you see?
- 8:58Speaker 5: Well It hasn't come up on this occasion, and I'm
- 9:05Speaker 5: just sort of answering questions, so I haven't run into
- 9:08Speaker 5: anybody that's had that question. But interestingly, you say that
- 9:12Speaker 5: the last time I was in India, a man said,
- 9:15Speaker 5: what have I got to do to buy the whole
- 9:18Speaker 5: New Zealand wool clip? So there is an interest in
- 9:21Speaker 5: doing wool stuff, and that's starting to come again, which
- 9:25Speaker 5: we've seen in the resultant auction price and that we're
- 9:30Speaker 5: getting paid for raw wool in New Zealand. So I
- 9:33Speaker 5: think that will develop again, but it's not an area
- 9:36Speaker 5: I've been embraced into.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that we're underselling ourselves, Ian,
- 9:42Speaker 2: based on what you're seeing as a trading nation, Eric?
- 9:45Speaker 4: Oh, no, I think we're doing well, and I think....
- 9:50Speaker 5: The fact that we were off the blocks early with
- 9:54Speaker 5: a free trade agreement into China and again into India,
- 9:57Speaker 5: I think we're doing our bit, but I think.
- 9:59Speaker 4: we are now, but there are times when.
- 10:02Speaker 5: We have not performed as well or as enthusiastically as
- 10:06Speaker 5: we should have done. But I think the message is
- 10:09Speaker 5: pretty clear right now. This is where we need to be.
- 10:14Speaker 5: The other thing I'd say about developing markets into Asia is,
- 10:18Speaker 5: If we become dependent on one particular country and then
- 10:22Speaker 5: they start doing some things that are a bit against
- 10:26Speaker 5: our trade or they don't like us or whatever, our
- 10:28Speaker 5: strength is not in being able to knock them around
- 10:32Speaker 5: verbally because we're small and we're little, but we're saying, OK,
- 10:34Speaker 5: we've got other places we can send this product. We've
- 10:37Speaker 5: got other people that want this. So that's where we're
- 10:40Speaker 5: going to trade. And that's really our only option. When
- 10:43Speaker 5: the chips are down and we get loaded up with
- 10:46Speaker 5: tariffs or something that we find unacceptable, it's to say, well,
- 10:50Speaker 5: we do have other markets.
- 10:52Speaker 2: When do you think we can start seeing the benefits
- 10:55Speaker 2: from likes of what you're at at the moment, Eric?
- 10:57Speaker 2: What's the timeframe?
- 10:58Speaker 5: Oh, well, we're seeing them now and we're seeing them
- 11:01Speaker 5: in prices for protein all around the world right now. So,
- 11:06Speaker 5: you know, as I say, it's a bit like erosion
- 11:09Speaker 5: or aerial top dressing. You stop doing it, you stop
- 11:12Speaker 5: your aerial top dressing, in the first year you don't
- 11:14Speaker 5: really notice too much happening. But after five years, you've
- 11:19Speaker 5: got a disaster. So it's something we just need to
- 11:23Speaker 5: keep plugging away at.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Just finally, Eric, all the other countries are there trying
- 11:28Speaker 2: to put their name in the pot as well. Without
- 11:31Speaker 2: sounding patronising, does New Zealand have a good name amongst
- 11:34Speaker 2: these other countries too? Do they realise New Zealand's serious competition?
- 11:38Speaker 5: Well, I have not come across any negative impressions about
- 11:42Speaker 5: New Zealand and people even acknowledging the turnaround in the
- 11:46Speaker 5: All Blacks and a few other things that are happening.
- 11:49Speaker 5: So we do have an international profile that is above
- 11:53Speaker 5: our stations. I think we're about something like 115th population-wise
- 12:02Speaker 5: in the world. That's our size. But we're 53rd in
- 12:06Speaker 5: international trade. So we do punch above our weight, and
- 12:10Speaker 5: that is acknowledged. We're not a superpower, but we're a
- 12:15Speaker 5: super product place, and that's the way in which I
- 12:17Speaker 5: think we need to look at ourselves.
- 12:20Speaker 2: Eric, thanks for your time and getting up early, considering
- 12:23Speaker 2: what it is, bricky time over there as such. All
- 12:26Speaker 2: the best over there too. Sounds interesting. We'll catch up
- 12:28Speaker 2: again to get a bit of a follow-up.
- 12:31Speaker 4: That'll be good. We'll look forward to that. Thanks a lot, Andy.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Eric Roy, getting up early to join us all the
- 12:39Speaker 2: way from China this morning. Positive things happening for New
- 12:43Speaker 2: Zealand trade. So, yeah, that's the kind of stuff we'd
- 12:45Speaker 2: like to hear. You're listening to The Muster up next.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Kylie Fisken of Mallet McLean plus more. Welcome back to
- 13:01Speaker 2: The Muster. Kylie Fisken and Mel McLean bless more. Base
- 13:04Speaker 2: Terran Gord joins us once again. G'day. Seems like forever
- 13:07Speaker 2: since I've seen you in here.
- 13:08Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot's happened since though.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Quite a bit. How's things been anyway?
- 13:12Speaker 4: So yeah, spring.
- 13:13Speaker 6: It's the time of the year when farmers open their
- 13:15Speaker 6: wallets and driving around the countryside it's great to see
- 13:19Speaker 6: freshly turned over ground. Well done to those who burnt
- 13:23Speaker 6: the midnight oil to get that job done. Of course,
- 13:25Speaker 6: third wet spring in a row. My so-called side hustle
- 13:29Speaker 6: is obviously the family dairy farm. And I like to
- 13:33Speaker 6: say that I manage the money. But when it rains
- 13:36Speaker 6: like that, there isn't much management involved. It becomes a
- 13:39Speaker 6: case of buy the feed, juggle the cash flow and
- 13:42Speaker 6: just get through.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Just do what you got to do and things will
- 13:46Speaker 2: sort themselves out later on.
- 13:47Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 13:49Speaker 6: I'd like to forget that the rain happened. But I
- 13:53Speaker 6: can't and we shouldn't. So like I say, third tough spring.
- 13:58Speaker 6: The funny thing about farmers, we're pretty good at moving on.
- 14:02Speaker 6: The sun comes out, the grass starts growing, we get
- 14:04Speaker 6: on with it. Sometimes we even convince ourselves that last
- 14:07Speaker 6: year wasn't that bad until someone reminds us that it
- 14:10Speaker 6: was pretty rubbish too. So all the talk we're having
- 14:14Speaker 6: around the table now is about infrastructure issues.
- 14:18Speaker 2: Well, that's an important one, considering we've just gone past
- 14:20Speaker 2: the 12-month anniversary of the winds too.
- 14:24Speaker 7: Indeed.
- 14:25Speaker 6: You remind me of that day.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Well, you can't forget it, though.
- 14:29Speaker 4: No, you can't.
- 14:31Speaker 6: So around infrastructure, like 20 years ago, the number of
- 14:35Speaker 6: calves that we used to have born across that eight-week
- 14:38Speaker 6: period are now arriving in three. So we're asking a
- 14:43Speaker 6: lot of our farms, and more than ever before, In
- 14:48Speaker 6: some places, we're already close to capacity before the rain arrived.
- 14:53Speaker 6: And I guess with money, or at least equity, floating
- 14:56Speaker 6: around in our balance sheets, we have opportunities to examine
- 15:00Speaker 6: our farm weaknesses and the impact across our animal, our human,
- 15:05Speaker 6: and our financial health. So whether it's lanes, drainage, storage, housing,
- 15:12Speaker 6: or some other bottleneck, we need to make a plan
- 15:16Speaker 6: We need to prioritise it, we need to budget for
- 15:19Speaker 6: it and if you do that all before Christmas you'll
- 15:24Speaker 6: have a much better chance of getting tradies when you
- 15:26Speaker 6: actually need them because we all know if you ring
- 15:30Speaker 6: a contractor in the middle of a weather event you're
- 15:32Speaker 6: probably about number 247 on the list maybe.
- 15:35Speaker 2: But that's the nature of the game unfortunately as well.
- 15:38Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
- 15:39Speaker 6: There's a lot of innovation going on out there in
- 15:41Speaker 6: our farming communities. Farmers are really good at sharing knowledge
- 15:44Speaker 6: so Once you've prioritised, found what it is that you
- 15:48Speaker 6: need to do, talk. Talk to everyone. Talk to people
- 15:52Speaker 6: that are doing different things because, yeah, that's how we
- 15:55Speaker 6: learn from each other.
- 15:55Speaker 2: A lot of people considering composting barns and the likes
- 15:59Speaker 2: based on the season as well. I mean, you're nodding
- 16:02Speaker 2: your head there, so you agree. Get the conversation going.
- 16:05Speaker 6: All I'm seeing is innovation. Get the conversations going. Lots
- 16:08Speaker 6: of people are doing lots of different things, feed pads, barns,
- 16:11Speaker 6: the whole lot. So it's a matter of finding your
- 16:15Speaker 6: pain points on the farm and then working out a
- 16:19Speaker 6: cost benefit strategy of what you could do and whether
- 16:23Speaker 6: it's financially viable. And like I say, putting first animals
- 16:26Speaker 6: and people.
- 16:27Speaker 2: What about sheep farmers? Spring's got to be spring, I suppose,
- 16:30Speaker 2: is where you just got to do what you can to.
- 16:33Speaker 6: To get through.
- 16:34Speaker 2: To get through.
- 16:34Speaker 6: Yeah, on that note, we've had a couple of alliance
- 16:37Speaker 6: contracts come across our desk lately in terms of the
- 16:41Speaker 6: terms and conditions to the alliance advance payment. Now, the
- 16:44Speaker 6: money is good. The advances are certainly attractive, but encourage
- 16:50Speaker 6: farmers to read the fine print carefully. Last season, I'm
- 16:53Speaker 6: going to remind you about last spring when the sun
- 16:56Speaker 6: didn't shine and there was no grass and our lambs
- 16:58Speaker 6: didn't get fat and we really struggled to meet our
- 17:02Speaker 6: commitments at the end of April to get our lambs
- 17:05Speaker 6: into Alliance. So, yeah, Mother Nature doesn't always respect their
- 17:09Speaker 6: plans and it can be a significant cost if supply
- 17:13Speaker 6: commitments aren't met. So there's a 12% interest charge plus
- 17:17Speaker 6: a penalty on top of that that they're saying if
- 17:20Speaker 6: you don't get your lambs in, that would be implemented.
- 17:25Speaker 2: Are you seeing anything but a seller's market at the
- 17:28Speaker 2: moment regarding red meat?
- 17:29Speaker 1: No.
- 17:30Speaker 4: No, not at all.
- 17:32Speaker 6: Yeah, long may it continue.
- 17:35Speaker 2: And the fact we got $ 525 at Charlton there about
- 17:38Speaker 2: a month ago for a pen of lambs, and yes,
- 17:40Speaker 2: it was a one-off, but lawn villas cracked 500 upcountry.
- 17:44Speaker 2: It seems to be pretty positive, and you're hearing a
- 17:46Speaker 2: new season of lambs, depending on where you're based, going
- 17:48Speaker 2: for over 300 at the moment.
- 17:50Speaker 6: Is it making us nervous? Because reality is we do
- 17:53Speaker 6: have inflation on the other side of that. Remember, everything
- 17:55Speaker 6: we do uses fuel or some commodity. that is also
- 18:00Speaker 6: costing us extra. So we don't know where inflation is
- 18:02Speaker 6: going to land and what our margins are going to be.
- 18:04Speaker 2: No, but it's the fact that you're actually getting a
- 18:06Speaker 2: reward for your product, I think.
- 18:07Speaker 6: You're getting rewarded, but it is costing you money to
- 18:10Speaker 6: do it and costing you more money to do it
- 18:13Speaker 6: than it did before. I guess we've got an OCR
- 18:15Speaker 6: announcement today. I don't expect that to be a huge,
- 18:19Speaker 6: huge movement.
- 18:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 18:21Speaker 6: But yeah, in terms of that, definitely profitability pressure, but
- 18:26Speaker 6: I think the profitability is still there.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Well, you pretty much summed it up, though, just regarding
- 18:30Speaker 2: the Southland economy, Kylie. The fact that we are holding
- 18:33Speaker 2: our own and everything that's happening in this election cycle,
- 18:37Speaker 2: love it or hate it, I mean, Southland just keeps cranking.
- 18:41Speaker 2: That's the reality of the situation, right?
- 18:43Speaker 6: They can't really do much to hurt us because we
- 18:45Speaker 6: work really hard and we deserve to get paid for it.
- 18:47Speaker 6: We can't control, at the end of the day, inflation.
- 18:50Speaker 6: We can't control the wars overseas. We can't control the weather.
- 18:54Speaker 6: But we can control how we respond. And farming... more
- 18:58Speaker 6: than ever has been about adapting, learning, and keeping an
- 19:01Speaker 6: eye on the next 10 years, just not the next
- 19:04Speaker 6: 10 weeks.
- 19:05Speaker 2: It's a very good way to look at things, a
- 19:06Speaker 2: very positive outlook.
- 19:08Speaker 7: Always.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Pragmatic. Pragmatic. That's a great word, eh?
- 19:12Speaker 6: Isn't it indeed? You've had a thesaurus out.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Thesaurus? Dinosaur? Maybe it's Google now. Is it Google now? No,
- 19:20Speaker 2: it's all the top three inches. Don't worry about that.
- 19:22Speaker 2: Mail up a claim plus more. What's your deets?
- 19:25Speaker 6: You can flick us an email on hello at mmca.co.nz.
- 19:29Speaker 6: Give us a call here in the Gore office at
- 19:31Speaker 6: 03 208 5077 or in our Invercargill office, 03 214 4166.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Good on you, Kylie.
- 19:33Speaker 6: Always good to catch up.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Thanks, Andy. Kylie Fisken of Mallet McLean Plus More. You're
- 19:46Speaker 2: listening to The Muster. Grant Butch is in studio next.
- 19:49Speaker 2: Farm consultant. This is the muster on Hokanui, Graham Butcher,
- 20:05Speaker 2: farm consultant, joins us in studio once again. How are you?
- 20:08Speaker 7: I'm very well indeed, Andy.
- 20:10Speaker 2: It's been a little bit of a correction in the weather.
- 20:13Speaker 2: Next couple of days looks a bit meh, but then
- 20:15Speaker 2: over the weekend, slowly starting to warm up again.
- 20:17Speaker 7: Well, we've had some heavy rainfalls, we've had wind, we've
- 20:20Speaker 7: had sunshine. All in all, damn sight better than September.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Anything's better than September, same old story, right?
- 20:26Speaker 7: Better than September, too right it is.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Paul Kenyon was on the show last week talking about
- 20:31Speaker 2: you management looking ahead to next season. You went along
- 20:34Speaker 2: to that workshop and you said it was really, really interesting.
- 20:39Speaker 7: It was. It was a three-hour presentation and it seemed
- 20:42Speaker 7: like 20 minutes. It's one of those ones, you know.
- 20:44Speaker 7: Good turnout. There were probably 40 or 50 people there and,
- 20:48Speaker 7: you know, everyone was busy tailing and getting their tractors
- 20:50Speaker 7: out and what have you. So it was a really
- 20:52Speaker 7: good turnout and a damn good show. I didn't realise
- 20:55Speaker 7: Paul was on so he's probably stolen some of my thunder.
- 20:59Speaker 7: It's worthy of repeating.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there you go.
- 21:01Speaker 6: If I am repeating.
- 21:03Speaker 7: One of the themes he had was looking at lambing
- 21:06Speaker 7: percentages and is it better to look at increasing your
- 21:09Speaker 7: lambing percentage or increasing your lamb weights, particularly your lamb
- 21:13Speaker 7: weaning weights. And we had some quite interesting figures up there.
- 21:16Speaker 7: And he put a series of graphs up on looking
- 21:21Speaker 7: at the impact on cash operating surplus, which is your
- 21:25Speaker 7: cash income less working costs, on a per hectare basis,
- 21:31Speaker 7: on increasing lambing percentage. And what he showed, going from
- 21:36Speaker 7: 133 and 0.5%, if we go up to 140%, a 6% increase,
- 21:37Speaker 7: the impact on cash surplus was about 7%. If we
- 21:40Speaker 7: go up another 10% to 150% lambing, the impact is 18% overall.
- 21:44Speaker 7: And going up another 10%, to 160%, the overall impact
- 22:01Speaker 7: is 26%.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Sorry, is this based on what average weight lamb then,
- 22:05Speaker 2: when you're talking about?
- 22:07Speaker 7: This is on average weight lamb. On the graph, it
- 22:10Speaker 7: doesn't have what the average weight is.
- 22:12Speaker 2: You can presume 18, 18 and a half K.
- 22:15Speaker 7: I think it was a survey of a number of
- 22:17Speaker 7: farms looking at the whole thing.
- 22:19Speaker 4: Right.
- 22:19Speaker 7: So anyway, as lambing percentage increases, the impact on cash
- 22:25Speaker 7: operating surplus is positive. It goes up. But as the
- 22:28Speaker 7: lambing percentage climbs, the rate of increase actually declines because
- 22:34Speaker 7: you get more triplets and all that sort of thing.
- 22:38Speaker 7: Compared to that, starting at 130%, but maintaining your lambing
- 22:45Speaker 7: percentage at around the 133%, which is the base starting
- 22:49Speaker 7: of the one I've just talked about, but just concentrating
- 22:53Speaker 7: on your lamb weaning weights. Right, if we go up from...
- 22:57Speaker 7: 30 kgs to 33 kgs maintaining your lambing percentage. The
- 23:03Speaker 7: impact is 17%, nearly 18%, just that one step. If
- 23:08Speaker 7: we go up another three kilos, it's 35%. Another three
- 23:12Speaker 7: kilos on that, it's 52%. Cash operating surplus, which far
- 23:17Speaker 7: outweighs the gains we can make on increasing our lambing percentage,
- 23:22Speaker 7: even though there is gains there to do it. So
- 23:24Speaker 7: I suppose what I took out of that is as
- 23:27Speaker 7: your lambing percentage rises, the focus has got to shift
- 23:30Speaker 7: onto weaning weights and finishing weights as well, though he
- 23:34Speaker 7: didn't talk about finishing weights. So just a change in focus.
- 23:41Speaker 7: As you're increasing your lambing percentage above 140%, the marginal
- 23:45Speaker 7: gains get less and less and less. That's the point
- 23:49Speaker 7: where you've got to start thinking about weaning weights and
- 23:52Speaker 7: lamb finishing weights because the impact on the growth on
- 23:55Speaker 7: your cash farm surplus is actually a lot higher So
- 23:58Speaker 7: that was quite an interesting theme that came through. And
- 24:01Speaker 7: that sort of line ties up with some work I did.
- 24:04Speaker 7: I've been doing it for a couple of years now,
- 24:06Speaker 7: or quite a few years, on what's the sweet spot
- 24:09Speaker 7: for scanning percentage. And funnily enough, it comes out at
- 24:13Speaker 7: about 140%. After that, it declines. At 140%, if you
- 24:19Speaker 7: take all your U deaths, triplet deaths, all those sorts
- 24:23Speaker 7: of losses into account, The sweet spot seems to be
- 24:27Speaker 7: about 185% scanning and 140% tailing because that's the point
- 24:32Speaker 7: where the kilograms lamb wean actually peaks and then it
- 24:37Speaker 7: starts to decline a wee bit because of the impact
- 24:40Speaker 7: of triplets and all that sort of thing. So that
- 24:42Speaker 7: was quite an interesting sort of corroboration of what Paul
- 24:46Speaker 7: was saying. The other main theme of the ewe management
- 24:51Speaker 7: one was body condition score. and he was very positive
- 24:58Speaker 7: about how important the body condition score is because it
- 25:01Speaker 7: affects all sorts of things on productivity on sheep farms.
- 25:04Speaker 7: It affects fertility, that's the getting in lamb, scanning percentage, prolificacy,
- 25:09Speaker 7: that's the lambs at tailing. It affects lactation, affects a
- 25:12Speaker 7: whole lot of things, and it's a really important thing
- 25:14Speaker 7: to do. But one of the things he did say,
- 25:16Speaker 7: there's no point in having, or very little point, in
- 25:20Speaker 7: having ewes above about 3.5% body condition score The key
- 25:25Speaker 7: is bringing up that bottom end. That's where the big
- 25:27Speaker 7: impact is made.
- 25:28Speaker 2: Consistency through the line. That's what you're aiming for.
- 25:30Speaker 7: Forget about the average. I've been saying that for donkey's years.
- 25:34Speaker 7: An average of 3.5 means half of them are not
- 25:36Speaker 7: up to speed. So 3.5, maybe you have a few
- 25:40Speaker 7: at four at that. Probably that's okay. But bring that
- 25:43Speaker 7: bottom end up because that impacts on a huge number
- 25:46Speaker 7: of profitability trays on the farm. And if you're going
- 25:50Speaker 7: to do good feed management, You've got to actually start
- 25:53Speaker 7: measuring something. What's McGrath doing? What's our cover? Where's it
- 25:56Speaker 7: going to? It's the philosophy that dairy farmers have become
- 26:00Speaker 7: very successful following. So sheep farmers have got to pick
- 26:04Speaker 7: up that and run with it if we're going to
- 26:06Speaker 7: push things ahead. So anyway, it was a really interesting one.
- 26:10Speaker 7: The other... Really interesting one about body condition score too.
- 26:14Speaker 7: He had a couple of figures on the rates of
- 26:16Speaker 7: attrition on ewes for low body condition scoring. And one
- 26:20Speaker 7: of the things he said was that for a five-year-old ewe,
- 26:23Speaker 7: the chance of being culled decreased 37% for every body
- 26:28Speaker 7: condition score increase. That's huge. And he said that sort
- 26:32Speaker 7: of figure applied to other age groups as well. 37%
- 26:35Speaker 7: decrease chance of being culled if your body condition score
- 26:40Speaker 7: is pretty good. And the attrition rate in New Zealand
- 26:43Speaker 7: flocks is probably about 30%. By the time your two-doos
- 26:46Speaker 7: go in, by the time they hit after five lambings,
- 26:49Speaker 7: there's very few of them left. They just trickle out
- 26:52Speaker 7: through the whole system. And that's actually a huge cost
- 26:56Speaker 7: for New Zealand sheep farmers.
- 26:58Speaker 2: Just to wrap up as well, South and Rural Support Trust,
- 27:01Speaker 2: we're back catching up with the team and different farmers.
- 27:06Speaker 2: Farm Advisor, when you look back at the last 10
- 27:08Speaker 2: weeks or so, As to where we are now, what
- 27:10Speaker 2: words of advice would you say?
- 27:13Speaker 7: I'd say farmers have done a hell of a good
- 27:15Speaker 7: job tidying up. There's still stuff to do. You see
- 27:18Speaker 7: it lying around the place. Pretty horrendous time a year ago.
- 27:22Speaker 7: But farmers, I think they did a stupendous job cleaning
- 27:27Speaker 7: up and I think the impact has been pretty stressful
- 27:34Speaker 7: on farmers, physical, mental, the whole show. because that's one
- 27:39Speaker 7: thing we didn't need this time of the year is
- 27:40Speaker 7: that wind that came through.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Nonetheless, the lambs are on the ground now, the ones
- 27:44Speaker 2: that are there, and here's hoping to wear something for
- 27:46Speaker 2: this season. Hey, Graeme, good on you.
- 27:48Speaker 4: Yep, thank you.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Graham Butcher, Farm Consultant. Once again, Southland Rural Support Trust.
- 27:55Speaker 2: 0800 787 254. Somebody at the end of the line
- 27:59Speaker 2: if you need to have a chat as well. So
- 28:01Speaker 2: we're talking about to different farmers and different avenues. And
- 28:04Speaker 2: next week we're going to talk about a few events
- 28:06Speaker 2: that are coming up like Surfing for Farmers, Not Too
- 28:08Speaker 2: Far Away, Riding for Farmers as well, starting tonight. So
- 28:12Speaker 2: get on board with that. Gina Close is up next
- 28:15Speaker 2: from Dairy NZ. welcome back to the muster it is
- 28:31Speaker 2: time to catch up with gina close out of dairy
- 28:34Speaker 2: nz gina welcome to the muster good to.
- 28:37Speaker 8: Chat yay how are you andy okay.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Gina tell us tell us about yourself your involvement with
- 28:43Speaker 2: dairy nz your background Yeah, right.
- 28:45Speaker 8: So, yeah, Gina Close. I am covering the area manager
- 28:51Speaker 8: spot for Northern Southland. So I've worked on dairy farms
- 28:56Speaker 8: in the past with my husband, which has given me
- 28:59Speaker 8: a real appreciation for the realities and the challenges of farming.
- 29:05Speaker 8: So I started working for Dairy NZ in about 2020
- 29:09Speaker 8: as a contractor before moving into the event space and, yeah,
- 29:14Speaker 8: now as an area manager.
- 29:16Speaker 2: A lot of positivity for the sector at the moment,
- 29:19Speaker 2: would you say? I think you'd have to agree there
- 29:20Speaker 2: would be.
- 29:21Speaker 8: Yeah, yep, definitely. And one of the key things that
- 29:25Speaker 8: I'd like to talk to you about today is the
- 29:28Speaker 8: opportunity that we have for farmers right now to help
- 29:33Speaker 8: shape Dairy NZ's future direction. So, yeah, over recent years,
- 29:38Speaker 8: farmers have always told us that they want a stronger
- 29:41Speaker 8: voice and where Dairy NZ sort of focuses its efforts
- 29:45Speaker 8: and its levy investment. So, yeah, as we go forward
- 29:50Speaker 8: and plan out the next five years, we're asking farmers
- 29:53Speaker 8: to tell us where they think their levy can make
- 29:57Speaker 8: the biggest difference.
- 29:58Speaker 2: As far as the sector itself, what are you really
- 30:00Speaker 2: enjoying about it at the moment, Gina?
- 30:04Speaker 8: For myself, yeah, obviously I've worked with the event space
- 30:08Speaker 8: and sort of behind the scenes of the events, but, yeah,
- 30:12Speaker 8: getting out and seeing what great things farmers are doing.
- 30:15Speaker 8: At the moment, we've just finished up a series of events,
- 30:20Speaker 8: our pastor to profit, and, yeah, highly attended events, and
- 30:24Speaker 8: it was really good just to get out and see
- 30:27Speaker 8: farmers what good farmers are doing.
- 30:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard about that event last week. We were
- 30:31Speaker 2: catching up with Gerard while he was there, and it
- 30:34Speaker 2: sounded like a massive turnout too on a farm that's
- 30:36Speaker 2: doing good things.
- 30:38Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. It was fantastic. It was great
- 30:43Speaker 8: to see everyone come out and, yeah, just sort of
- 30:48Speaker 8: celebrating what great farmers we have in Southland.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Now, you're going to be based as the area rep
- 30:55Speaker 2: for Northern Southland, is that correct?
- 30:57Speaker 8: Yes, yep, looking after northern Southland. So I am based
- 31:02Speaker 8: down in Makarua, but yeah, always enjoy a nice drive
- 31:05Speaker 8: up northern Southland.
- 31:07Speaker 2: So you've been with Dairy NZ for, what did you say,
- 31:09Speaker 2: about five or six years now. What did you do
- 31:10Speaker 2: prior to that? Just working on farms in the likes
- 31:12Speaker 2: of your hubby?
- 31:14Speaker 8: Yep, worked on farms and we were also up in
- 31:19Speaker 8: Glenorchy for some time on a sheep and beef farm
- 31:21Speaker 8: up there, so a bit of change of pace.
- 31:24Speaker 2: Glenorchy, worst places in the world to be than up there.
- 31:27Speaker 8: Definitely.
- 31:28Speaker 2: That pub goes good.
- 31:30Speaker 8: Yeah, it does, it does. It always goes off.
- 31:33Speaker 2: So was there any rationale or change from going to
- 31:37Speaker 2: dairy from sheep and beef, Gina? Just a change of
- 31:40Speaker 2: scenery as such?
- 31:41Speaker 8: Yeah, just we were always, we were from Southend, so yeah,
- 31:46Speaker 8: it was just coming back to the family roots. So yeah,
- 31:49Speaker 8: here we are.
- 31:50Speaker 2: And how have people got through the spring from what
- 31:52Speaker 2: you've seen, knowing that the situation has been what it's been?
- 31:57Speaker 8: Yeah, I think people are, yeah, they're getting back. It's
- 32:01Speaker 8: definitely very sort of pocketed to where the weather hit
- 32:06Speaker 8: the worst. And so, yeah, I think people's main focus
- 32:09Speaker 8: has been getting conditioned back on cows for, you know,
- 32:13Speaker 8: obviously we're heading into mating now. So, yeah, making sure
- 32:16Speaker 8: they're in tip-top form.
- 32:18Speaker 2: So once again, regarding the strategies for the next five
- 32:21Speaker 2: years for Dairy NZ, you encourage people to go online
- 32:23Speaker 2: and submit?
- 32:25Speaker 4: Yes.
- 32:25Speaker 8: So just for everyone to keep an eye out for
- 32:28Speaker 8: our newsletter, which comes out tomorrow, and that will have
- 32:32Speaker 8: a link to the form, which only takes a couple
- 32:35Speaker 8: of minutes to fill in. So yeah, whether you have
- 32:38Speaker 8: a new idea, a challenge that you'd like Dairy NZ
- 32:41Speaker 8: to focus on, or feedback on what you've seen that
- 32:45Speaker 8: we've been doing well. So yeah, So, yeah, the more
- 32:48Speaker 8: farmers that participate, the clearer the picture we will have
- 32:51Speaker 8: for what matters most for our sector.
- 32:54Speaker 2: Absolutely. So farmers can expect to see your cheery face
- 32:57Speaker 2: at events popping up around the region.
- 32:59Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely. I'll be out and about.
- 33:02Speaker 2: Good on you, Gina. Thanks for your time this afternoon.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Good to catch up.
- 33:05Speaker 8: Oh, thank you. See you.
- 33:10Speaker 2: Gina Close of Dairy NZ. As we catch up with
- 33:13Speaker 2: the team on a regular basis, you're listening to The Muster.
- 33:16Speaker 2: A change of text next. Elliot Warrender. He's away to
- 33:20Speaker 2: the Young Auctioneer of the Year competition happening in Christchurch
- 33:24Speaker 2: next week. We have a catch-up. Hey, well, all right, sir.
- 33:34Speaker 4: Here we go there.
- 33:35Speaker 2: And what are you going to give for?
- 33:36Speaker 4: I'm a 25.
- 33:36Speaker 2: I'll give 30 now.
- 33:37Speaker 4: Five. Another $ 40.
- 33:37Speaker 2: I'm going to make it a 40 now.
- 33:38Speaker 4: Five.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Welcome back to The Muster. Yes, you've heard that song
- 33:44Speaker 2: twice today. Now, of course, it is the intro music
- 33:46Speaker 2: for our PGG Rights and Stock Sale report, but we
- 33:49Speaker 2: are using it for Elliot Warrender. He is competing in
- 33:52Speaker 2: the New Zealand Young Auctioneers competition next Tuesday up at Christchurch.
- 33:57Speaker 2: It coincides with the Canterbury AMP show. He's a PGG
- 34:00Speaker 2: Rights and Livestock agent based out of Winton. Elliot, good afternoon.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
- 34:06Speaker 9: How are you going, Andy?
- 34:07Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on.
- 34:08Speaker 2: Oh, look, I appreciate your time on what is something
- 34:11Speaker 2: pretty unique. The Young Auctioneer competition happening next week, it's
- 34:18Speaker 2: a bit of a random one for a lot of people,
- 34:20Speaker 2: but it's certainly an art form.
- 34:23Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah. I don't really know a lot about it myself,
- 34:26Speaker 10: but pretty much I think it's under the age of
- 34:29Speaker 10: 29 or 30 and get out there and have a
- 34:34Speaker 10: crack against other young auctioneers around the country.
- 34:37Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 34:38Speaker 2: How long is it since you had to do your
- 34:40Speaker 2: first auction? What is the back story to this, Elliot?
- 34:44Speaker 10: Well, I head down to the Lawnville sale yards and
- 34:47Speaker 10: Charlton sale yards once every week. And I've always been
- 34:54Speaker 10: intrigued about it, I guess, watching it and seeing how
- 34:57Speaker 10: it works.
- 34:58Speaker 3: And I pretty much.
- 34:59Speaker 10: Just got chucked on the spot to sell an old
- 35:02Speaker 10: ram down at Lawnville one day and the rest is history, really.
- 35:07Speaker 2: It's an art form, though. It's something you just can't
- 35:09Speaker 2: pick up. I've seen something online a couple of weeks
- 35:12Speaker 2: ago over in the States, and it was like a
- 35:14Speaker 2: school they had for auctioneers. Does that sound about right?
- 35:19Speaker 10: Yeah, I think there is a lot of training camps
- 35:23Speaker 10: or whatever they do for it. But, yeah, I sort
- 35:26Speaker 10: of just try to pick it up as I go
- 35:28Speaker 10: down to the sale yards. We've got some pretty established
- 35:32Speaker 10: auctioneers down there. They always tend to... give a hand
- 35:35Speaker 10: and chuck some tips out. But, yeah, they just let
- 35:38Speaker 10: you do it, really, and you're always picking up stuff
- 35:41Speaker 10: as you go.
- 35:43Speaker 2: Now, when you're doing the auctioneering and the likes, are
- 35:46Speaker 2: you just having to think on the spot as to
- 35:48Speaker 2: what to do, or does it come naturally?
- 35:51Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm still definitely thinking about what I have to
- 35:54Speaker 10: do and what I've got to say and when's a
- 35:57Speaker 10: good time to close the sale and how the bids
- 36:01Speaker 10: are coming in. I'm still trying to pick up that knack, definitely.
- 36:04Speaker 10: But every time I do it, I feel like I'm improving.
- 36:10Speaker 4: Every time.
- 36:11Speaker 3: So hopefully it's enough to give me a good crack
- 36:15Speaker 3: up the road.
- 36:17Speaker 2: So what is it you reckon, Elliot, that makes a
- 36:19Speaker 2: good auctioneer from what you're doing and what you've seen?
- 36:24Speaker 10: Well, some of the advice I've been given and what
- 36:27Speaker 10: I've really taken on board is just Just being clear
- 36:30Speaker 10: and concise about what you're selling, the bidders understand where
- 36:36Speaker 10: the bid is, what the money is, and yeah, pretty
- 36:40Speaker 10: much just being really clear, really.
- 36:43Speaker 2: So who encouraged you to go in for the New
- 36:45Speaker 2: Zealand Young Auctioneers competition? Was there anybody as a mentor
- 36:48Speaker 2: as such?
- 36:51Speaker 10: No, not really. I've been doing it for not really
- 36:56Speaker 10: that long, really, about four months or so, and I
- 37:00Speaker 10: just got asked if I was interested in doing it
- 37:03Speaker 10: and I'm always keen to give stuff a crack and
- 37:05Speaker 10: yeah it's just another opportunity to have a go and
- 37:09Speaker 10: get my name out there and meet some other auctioneers
- 37:12Speaker 10: around the country really.
- 37:13Speaker 2: You've only been doing it for four months?
- 37:16Speaker 10: Nah yeah I haven't really been doing it that long
- 37:18Speaker 10: really so it's a bit nerve wracking but yeah you
- 37:21Speaker 10: know what I'll be keen just to get up there
- 37:24Speaker 10: and give it a go, get the experience and I'll
- 37:26Speaker 10: be better for it.
- 37:27Speaker 2: So what were you doing before you were a livestock rep?
- 37:31Speaker 10: I was sort of just floating around, to be fair.
- 37:34Speaker 10: I was doing jobs here and there. I was a
- 37:37Speaker 10: student for four years up in Dunedin, and now I'm here.
- 37:41Speaker 3: So it's been a bit of an interesting journey, really.
- 37:44Speaker 2: You're going into the unknown yourselves. I think all the
- 37:47Speaker 2: other firms, though, they've got people involved as well. So
- 37:52Speaker 2: it's just across the industry as such, is that right?
- 37:55Speaker 3: Yes, just across the industry.
- 37:57Speaker 10: I see there's about four different companies who have young
- 37:59Speaker 10: auctioneers in the comp So we'll be going up against them.
- 38:06Speaker 2: So it's pretty much a case of the unknown then,
- 38:08Speaker 2: as you said before. It's like, what have they got
- 38:10Speaker 2: to present? You've got no idea what you need to
- 38:12Speaker 2: do on the day?
- 38:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a rough idea.
- 38:16Speaker 10: There's sort of a bit of an itinerary. So we're
- 38:18Speaker 10: selling some prime lambs on the first day down at
- 38:23Speaker 10: Canterbury Park there. And then on the Tuesday, we'll be
- 38:26Speaker 10: selling prime cattle and So, yeah, obviously the difference between
- 38:30Speaker 10: that is we'll be.
- 38:31Speaker 3: Selling the prime cattle in cents per kilo, which is.
- 38:36Speaker 10: All a big learning curve for me because down at
- 38:39Speaker 10: Lawnville and Charlton, I primarily just sell a lot of
- 38:42Speaker 10: the mutton and the prime lamb. So I've been doing
- 38:46Speaker 10: a wee bit of practice in my own time, trying
- 38:49Speaker 10: to get my head around that. And instead of saying $ 100,
- 38:51Speaker 10: you're saying dollars, that sort of stuff. So, yeah, it's
- 38:55Speaker 10: all just learning along the way, really.
- 38:57Speaker 2: Well, the terminology CPK, as opposed to schedule or prime market,
- 39:01Speaker 2: it's a different thing altogether.
- 39:03Speaker 5: Yes, yeah.
- 39:05Speaker 10: Yeah, and even just speaking in dollars compared to hundreds,
- 39:10Speaker 10: I find it was a bit challenging at the start,
- 39:14Speaker 10: but I'm thinking I'm starting to get my head around it.
- 39:16Speaker 2: So what do you do to practice for this? Is
- 39:18Speaker 2: there such a thing?
- 39:20Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I think the best way to practice is
- 39:22Speaker 10: just getting in there and doing it, like putting yourself
- 39:27Speaker 10: out there and having a good grow and taking on feed.
- 39:32Speaker 3: Obviously, you can always practice.
- 39:34Speaker 10: They say practice in your car and take bids on
- 39:36Speaker 10: the power poles as you.
- 39:37Speaker 3: Drive along the road.
- 39:42Speaker 10: That's a good way to get your head around a
- 39:45Speaker 10: bit of timing and finding new filler words and stuff,
- 39:49Speaker 10: but definitely the best way is just out there doing
- 39:51Speaker 10: it with real bitters and real stock on the line, yeah.
- 39:55Speaker 2: So tomorrow at Charlton, you're going to kick Teagle off
- 39:57Speaker 2: the rails and give it a crack, you reckon?
- 40:01Speaker 3: Yeah, Teagle's pretty stern up there, so I think I
- 40:04Speaker 3: might still have to buy my time for a few
- 40:06Speaker 3: more years for that, but he definitely gives me the nod,
- 40:09Speaker 3: I'll jump up there and give it a good go.
- 40:11Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Teagle, he'll be where the young barks. Hey,
- 40:13Speaker 2: you don't want to give us a bit of a
- 40:14Speaker 2: demo on the spot, do.
- 40:15Speaker 4: You, mate?
- 40:17Speaker 3: Oh, no, just to save it. It'll be live on Bidart.
- 40:21Speaker 3: You'd have to come and tune in and watch it yourself.
- 40:24Speaker 2: So, OK, what are the details people need to know
- 40:27Speaker 2: if they're up at Christchurch next week? What time does
- 40:30Speaker 2: it get underway?
- 40:32Speaker 10: Well, I believe the prime stock on the Tuesday, I
- 40:37Speaker 10: think that kicks off at 1pm in Canterbury Park rink there, and...
- 40:44Speaker 10: It's live-streamed through BIDA, and, yeah, so that's pretty much
- 40:50Speaker 10: the way it's going to go.
- 40:51Speaker 4: I think.
- 40:52Speaker 2: Hey, good on you, Elliot. All the best for next week.
- 40:54Speaker 2: Certainly a different kind of competition than what is very
- 40:57Speaker 2: much quesential Kiwi. Yeah, we'll see. We'll catch up with
- 41:01Speaker 2: you next week, see how it all goes. All the
- 41:02Speaker 2: best for the unknown.
- 41:04Speaker 9: No, cheers for that, Andy.
- 41:05Speaker 10: Appreciate it.
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- 41:22Speaker 2: and I thought, that's rare. He'd sneak away in the afternoon.
- 41:28Speaker 2: How cool a chat was that? All the best to
- 41:30Speaker 2: Elliot next week as he goes up against the pick
- 41:33Speaker 2: of the young auctioneers from around the country. That's us
- 41:36Speaker 2: over in Dunworth. I'm Andy Muir. The Must has brought
- 41:38Speaker 2: to you by Pedestrianetics. Podcast's up shortly. Some Leroy Van
- 41:42Speaker 2: Dyke to see you out on a Wednesday. Catch you tomorrow.
- 41:44Speaker 4: I have got to learn that auction cry.
- 41:47Speaker 10: Gotta make my mark and be an auctioneer.
- 41:56Speaker 2: Stock selling action occurs courtesy of the team at PGG
- 42:01Speaker 2: Rights and Mark Coulter's on the ground once again from
- 42:03Speaker 2: the Balclutha sale yards. They had a sale this morning. G'day, Mark.
- 42:06Speaker 2: How do we fare?
- 42:07Speaker 4: Yeah, g'day, Andy.
- 42:08Speaker 9: We're very good here again at Balclutha. The mutton schedule
- 42:12Speaker 9: and lamb schedule is staying very strong and just keeping
- 42:14Speaker 9: things bumped along very well. Getting to the prime lambs,
- 42:17Speaker 9: still quite a few prime lambs coming through from last
- 42:19Speaker 9: year without cut teeth. They're going from $ 270 to $ 320.
- 42:22Speaker 9: Your medium's still selling very well. They're at $ 230 to $ 260.
- 42:27Speaker 9: And then your tar lenders are not so bad themselves.
- 42:31Speaker 9: They're $ 190 to $ 210. Getting into the prime ewes, some
- 42:34Speaker 9: big heavy wet-dry ewes coming through, and they're going very
- 42:37Speaker 9: well with $ 290 to $ 320 for your big girls, $ 240
- 42:40Speaker 9: to $ 280 for your mediums, and your lighter ends are
- 42:44Speaker 9: anywhere from $ 140 to $ 180. Just a handful of store lambs,
- 42:47Speaker 9: and today they went from $ 150 to $ 190. A couple
- 42:51Speaker 9: of lines of ewes and lambs at foot were in.
- 42:53Speaker 9: The loitering ewes of lambs at foot were $ 145, and
- 42:57Speaker 9: your big heavy ewes of some very nicely marked lambs
- 43:02Speaker 9: there were $ 172. Going very well at that. Just a reminder,
- 43:07Speaker 9: our cattle sale is next Wednesday the 4th. Start at 9.30,
- 43:11Speaker 9: so get in touch with your local agent and hope
- 43:13Speaker 9: to see you all there.
- 43:14Speaker 4: Cheers.