Latest / The Dr. Sarah Hensley Show / Episode 46, Season 2: Entrepreneurship Isn’t Easy - Navigating Growth, Stress & Change
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to the Love Dog Podcast. I'm your co host
- 0:14Speaker 1: Raina Butcher here with our host, doctor Sarah Hensley, the owner, founder,
- 0:18Speaker 1: and CEO of the love Doc relationship coaching services. You
- 0:22Speaker 1: can find her at the lovedoc dot com or on
- 0:25Speaker 1: any social media handle at doctor Sarah Hinsley.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Hello. Hi, how are you well. It's been you know,
- 0:34Speaker 2: it's been a very very rough week, week, month, month, Okay,
- 0:38Speaker 2: month the corner. Yeah, We've we've got some news that's
- 0:45Speaker 2: really not easy to share. Yeah, which is after a
- 0:49Speaker 2: year in the trademark process for getting the love doc trademarked,
- 0:54Speaker 2: and after two separate trademark attorneys did an initial conflict
- 0:59Speaker 2: of interest CERTI due diligence search, our trademark for the
- 1:04Speaker 2: love Doc was denied by the us PTO, which is
- 1:09Speaker 2: the US Trademark Office, and there was no way to
- 1:13Speaker 2: know right right. You take a chance, you pick a brand,
- 1:16Speaker 2: You do your due diligence search, which they don't have
- 1:20Speaker 2: as much reach as the examining attorney at the Trademark
- 1:22Speaker 2: Office does, so sometimes things don't come up in those searches.
- 1:29Speaker 2: And so there's two choices. Keep using the love doc
- 1:32Speaker 2: brand and potentially get sued by the person who has
- 1:35Speaker 2: a similar, not the same, but similar trademark, who trademarked
- 1:38Speaker 2: hers first. And you know, we may or may not
- 1:43Speaker 2: ever end up on her radar, right, or rebrand again,
- 1:49Speaker 2: which will be our third rebrand.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're really rebranding two entities. Yeah, we're rebranding
- 1:54Speaker 1: TO and the Relationship Code. Yes, that's right.
- 1:57Speaker 2: And so it feels a little bit destabilizing, like losing
- 2:02Speaker 2: my identity. I have been I have tried so hard
- 2:08Speaker 2: to stabilize this identity and move into a domain and
- 2:14Speaker 2: a just a trademark that feels good, right. The love
- 2:20Speaker 2: doc is short and sweet, it's catchy, it's what I do. Yeah. Yeah,
- 2:25Speaker 2: and now it's no longer ours, and so the right
- 2:28Speaker 2: ethical thing to do is to rebrand. Yeah. Could I
- 2:31Speaker 2: continue to use it and just risk Yeah, it's just
- 2:34Speaker 2: too big of a risk. It's too big of a risk,
- 2:37Speaker 2: and it's not the ethical thing to do. And the
- 2:40Speaker 2: area is too gray because it is. I could live
- 2:42Speaker 2: in that gray area, but I would rather much rather
- 2:45Speaker 2: in this case because of the blood and sweat and
- 2:49Speaker 2: tears that we've put into to building this, I would
- 2:53Speaker 2: rather live in the black and white area. When it
- 2:55Speaker 2: me too, And so we've decided to rebrand under my name,
- 2:59Speaker 2: which is the safest thing to do, Doctor Sarah Hensley.
- 3:01Speaker 2: So the podcast in season three is going to start
- 3:03Speaker 2: as the Doctor Sarah Hensley Show. Woooo whoop woop, the
- 3:06Speaker 2: Doctor Sarah Hensley Show. And we will be making that
- 3:08Speaker 2: announcement a lot before season three so that our audience
- 3:11Speaker 2: can still find us. The Doctor Sarah Hensley. Relationship coaching
- 3:16Speaker 2: services will continue, Yep. Nothing about what we have to
- 3:19Speaker 2: offer is going to continue. It's just going to be
- 3:22Speaker 2: the name, Colors logo, all of that is being rebranded.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Nothing's going to change, yeah, other than those the aesthetics.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Really like the esthetic portions.
- 3:30Speaker 1: I like to think of it as like a rebrand refresh.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Yes, let's think of it that way. Yeah, So we
- 3:37Speaker 2: fail forward in this company. There has been times where
- 3:39Speaker 2: I have lost massive amounts of money, even recently, because
- 3:46Speaker 2: I don't know. They don't teach you business in psychology school. No,
- 3:51Speaker 2: I mean it's constant.
- 3:52Speaker 1: I mean softballs are just being lofted at your face constantly, constantly.
- 3:56Speaker 1: You have no idea what to expect. Just when you
- 3:58Speaker 1: think you have it figured out, there will be some monkeys.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Just like you know, TikTok was my main platform and
- 4:04Speaker 2: now it's my least reach. It's the least reach it
- 4:09Speaker 2: has been. That platform has been decimated, it has been
- 4:12Speaker 2: completely ruined.
- 4:13Speaker 1: I think though, that everyone is feeling this, like, no,
- 4:16Speaker 1: we're not unique, We're not unique to this at all.
- 4:18Speaker 1: I think anybody in the digital landscape that run their
- 4:22Speaker 1: business in the digital landscape via social media are really
- 4:26Speaker 1: feeling this shift in how people are consuming. Yes, And
- 4:31Speaker 1: I think we just want to position ourselves in a
- 4:34Speaker 1: way as we move forward, because failure is not an
- 4:37Speaker 1: option for us. We want to position ourselves in a
- 4:40Speaker 1: way where we still stick to the mission.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Yes. The mission is to help people love in a
- 4:47Speaker 2: healthy way. Yes, and in a way that God would
- 4:49Speaker 2: be proud of. And at the end of the day,
- 4:53Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. There have been a few days
- 4:57Speaker 2: in the last month where I'm like, I'm shutting it down.
- 4:59Speaker 2: I'm shutting it down. I'm done. I can't do it anymore.
- 5:01Speaker 2: I can't. And God is like, excuse me. You think
- 5:06Speaker 2: I put you on this mission and it was going
- 5:08Speaker 2: to be easy. Yeah, remember who you are, remember what
- 5:13Speaker 2: you know about me, And you can't ask for growth
- 5:17Speaker 2: and expect to have no challenges. You just can't. I mean,
- 5:21Speaker 2: that's how you about the challenges in the growth that
- 5:25Speaker 2: I've prayed for, right can't. And you can't either out there.
- 5:31Speaker 2: You can't complain about the challenges that are going to
- 5:34Speaker 2: launch you into growth, because you don't grow if there's
- 5:38Speaker 2: no pain. There's no such thing. You don't grow muscle
- 5:42Speaker 2: without pain in the gym. You don't grow your intelligence
- 5:45Speaker 2: without the pain of putting hours into learning something. Self reflection.
- 5:51Speaker 2: You don't get to the point of true accountability and
- 5:54Speaker 2: self reflection without pain. This is why boundaries work, by
- 5:58Speaker 2: the way, because people on the other side of your
- 6:00Speaker 2: boundary or forced to face pain of your loss, which
- 6:04Speaker 2: is the only way that they might land into growth.
- 6:06Speaker 2: But that's another that's another discussion, right yeah, But it's
- 6:10Speaker 2: definitely something you teach.
- 6:11Speaker 1: That's what I teach, and it applies here too. It
- 6:14Speaker 1: applies you know, in business. There's been so many times
- 6:20Speaker 1: in my life where I've been challenged emotionally, you know,
- 6:25Speaker 1: obviously in relationships, you know, I mean, in my marriage
- 6:30Speaker 1: with you know, my child. But I think I can
- 6:34Speaker 1: say with utmost certainty, I don't think anything is challenged
- 6:38Speaker 1: to me more than business it has.
- 6:40Speaker 2: It shows you who you are, It shows you where.
- 6:43Speaker 1: You need to change, the things you need to change
- 6:46Speaker 1: about yourself. It shows you where maybe you still are
- 6:50Speaker 1: a little weak in specifically for me, setting boundaries. And
- 6:56Speaker 1: it's just this grind that you have to have just
- 7:00Speaker 1: a massive, robust nervous system for and emotional capacity and
- 7:07Speaker 1: mental capacity.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a lot. And we talk about how
- 7:11Speaker 2: great it is all the time. And your sister Reagan,
- 7:13Speaker 2: so she Reagan is our customer support lead at the
- 7:16Speaker 2: Love Doc, and she sent us this meme that was hilarious.
- 7:19Speaker 2: It was like owning my own business is so great.
- 7:21Speaker 2: I get to pick the one hundred and forty hours
- 7:23Speaker 2: a week I work and work whenever I want to
- 7:26Speaker 2: work those hours. Like well, yeah, well that is a
- 7:30Speaker 2: little bit true.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's you know, I don't know if the
- 7:34Speaker 1: algorithm is so smart, because like my whole algorithm right
- 7:38Speaker 1: now is just all of these things based in business.
- 7:41Speaker 1: How you know, business will make you feel, how business
- 7:44Speaker 1: will teach you more than therapy ever could or you know,
- 7:47Speaker 1: and it's so true, and I mean.
- 7:50Speaker 2: There's just obstacles you would never think of an a
- 7:52Speaker 2: trillion years and you're just like, oh, big slap in
- 7:56Speaker 2: the face today, all right, how do I get up?
- 7:58Speaker 2: Shake it off? From that? Right? Like, when we were
- 8:02Speaker 2: trying to search for a new domain, there was a
- 8:04Speaker 2: new domain that we wanted. Oh my god. Oh man,
- 8:11Speaker 2: So there was a new domain that we wanted for
- 8:14Speaker 2: the new brand and it was taken. We contacted the
- 8:21Speaker 2: owner of that domain to just have a gentle conversation,
- 8:25Speaker 2: professional professional around would you be willing to sell it?
- 8:29Speaker 1: Right?
- 8:30Speaker 2: She's not actually currently using it? It redirects right, okay,
- 8:35Speaker 2: so you know we thought, why she's not really using it,
- 8:38Speaker 2: so maybe she'd be open, right, This happens all the time.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Domains are brokeren between people all the time. So I
- 8:43Speaker 2: sent her an email. She didn't respond, but you never know,
- 8:46Speaker 2: people don't check their email, right, right, You never just
- 8:48Speaker 2: never know. I mean we're not the best at email.
- 8:51Speaker 2: I never checked my mail. So we sent her a
- 8:53Speaker 2: message on social media, but then we realized that her
- 8:56Speaker 2: last post was like from like twenty twenty, so she
- 8:59Speaker 2: didn't respond, so were like, well, that probably didn't get
- 9:01Speaker 2: to her. So her number was public. So eventually we
- 9:05Speaker 2: just reached out. Yeah, we got on the phone.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, guys, this is not about throwing in
- 9:13Speaker 3: the under the bus, is why we're not revealing the
- 9:15Speaker 3: identity of this person, right, Oh holy Molly dysfunction.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Yes, it was so not I was so blindsided by it.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I did like I was speechless.
- 9:25Speaker 2: I was. I was left feeling utterly shocked. Yeah, I
- 9:29Speaker 2: was like, it was basically go fuck off.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Yes, y'all are creepos, y'all are talking me, or like.
- 9:39Speaker 2: One email, then eventually one social media message, then eventually
- 9:44Speaker 2: a phone call, which is usually how business works, right,
- 9:47Speaker 2: and it.
- 9:49Speaker 1: But like again, speechless, speechless, speechless, how she reacted.
- 9:54Speaker 2: It was just and again I was so blinded. Big Yeah,
- 9:59Speaker 2: it was big and scary. Yeah, it was scary, like
- 10:04Speaker 2: and I'm just like, oh my, this person is a professional, yeah,
- 10:08Speaker 2: treating the public.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I know whoa yeah, like and my only reason, yeah,
- 10:14Speaker 1: my only response was oh my gosh, we are so sorry.
- 10:17Speaker 2: That was never We are terribly sorry for bothering you.
- 10:21Speaker 2: And then it went on m M and stop spamming me.
- 10:26Speaker 2: I mean just we were like, I was like, you people,
- 10:29Speaker 2: and we were just like she called us creepy. We
- 10:34Speaker 2: were like We're so sorry. We were just trying to
- 10:36Speaker 2: take action on take contention because we need to rebrand Quitchy.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Every day I'm under the Love Doc is a day
- 10:41Speaker 2: that I could be sued, right, And you don't know
- 10:44Speaker 2: that until you get the rejection from the trading office. Sure,
- 10:47Speaker 2: and look, Taylor Swift is my spirit animal, right, She's
- 10:50Speaker 2: getting sued over trademark law right now because apparently there
- 10:55Speaker 2: is somebody that has the trademark Confessions of a Showgirl.
- 11:00Speaker 2: It has like a Vegas thing. I think, I think,
- 11:02Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a Vegas thing. I think
- 11:03Speaker 2: it's a Vegas thing. And she is suing Taylor Swift
- 11:06Speaker 2: for her Life of a Showgirl album and merch and
- 11:09Speaker 2: everything because apparently Taylor Swift did do a trademark search
- 11:13Speaker 2: and found Confessions of a Showgirl and was denied her
- 11:16Speaker 2: trademark but went through with it anyway. Yeah. She's like,
- 11:19Speaker 2: I'll just pay it. Yeah. I mean he's like, I
- 11:21Speaker 2: have thirteen billion dollars. Yeah, if you're a billionaire, Like
- 11:24Speaker 2: at that point, you know, any legal challenge you can pay,
- 11:28Speaker 2: you can pay people off. Yeah, And it was worth
- 11:31Speaker 2: it to her, right, but just to even know Taylor
- 11:34Speaker 2: has these things. I mean, granted, I wish I was
- 11:37Speaker 2: a billionaire, right, but you know, it's just like it
- 11:42Speaker 2: was so ironic that it's like that is happening at
- 11:46Speaker 2: the same moment, and learning about trademark law, like I've
- 11:49Speaker 2: had to learn I've had to get a PhD in
- 11:50Speaker 2: trademark law. Do this process. It is such a bad system.
- 11:56Speaker 2: And like Donald was saying the other day, He's like,
- 11:58Speaker 2: are we not going to run out a name for things? Eventually?
- 12:01Speaker 2: Like this trademark all thing seems kind of crazy because
- 12:04Speaker 2: like every so we're in Kentucky and horses horse racing
- 12:07Speaker 2: is like it right, and you have to trademark the
- 12:10Speaker 2: name of your horse. If your horse is in any
- 12:13Speaker 2: kind of competitive space, you have to trademark the name
- 12:15Speaker 2: of your horse. So you can't name another horse that
- 12:18Speaker 2: same thing. He's like, aren't we going to run out
- 12:20Speaker 2: of names? What are we gonna do? It's a racket.
- 12:23Speaker 1: It isn't just like anything else. It's a racket. It's
- 12:26Speaker 1: a money game, you know, and that's what they do.
- 12:29Speaker 1: And it is thousands of dollars. I spent thousands of
- 12:34Speaker 1: dollars just to get denied.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just business. Maybe it just makes it's hard
- 12:40Speaker 2: to feel impossible for people to create and to be
- 12:44Speaker 2: creative because like Confessions of versus Life of a Showgirl
- 12:51Speaker 2: of a show girl is all that's similar, right, Yet
- 12:55Speaker 2: she's getting sued. She's getting sued. Yeah, it's crazy and
- 13:00Speaker 2: it's creativity beyond belief. But I also get it, right,
- 13:03Speaker 2: I also get that people create something and want to
- 13:05Speaker 2: protect it. But at the end of the day, it
- 13:09Speaker 2: leaves very little wiggle room.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Yeah, because we battled with this with just the name, right,
- 13:13Speaker 1: we were you know, we wanted to come up with
- 13:16Speaker 1: something catchy and like and short and sweet. Yeah that
- 13:19Speaker 1: made sense. That was memorable that, you know. But the
- 13:23Speaker 1: end of the end of the day, I would rather
- 13:26Speaker 1: play it safe with Doctor like the Doctor Sarah Hinsley Show,
- 13:30Speaker 1: because I of course like me personally, Like I was like, well,
- 13:34Speaker 1: where does that leave me? But it doesn't matter the
- 13:36Speaker 1: love dog. I'm here as a mediator. I'm here as
- 13:39Speaker 1: just your best friend. I'm here to to ask questions,
- 13:42Speaker 1: to guide our audience and and so and I was like.
- 13:46Speaker 2: You know what, and in case I ever want to
- 13:48Speaker 2: get out, that's right there you go. And I think
- 13:54Speaker 2: we were both planning our outs. Oh yeah, we've had
- 13:56Speaker 2: some other extreme professional challenges where we have dealt with
- 14:02Speaker 2: unstable people. Yeah yeah, and again no style. I don't
- 14:06Speaker 2: want to throw anybody under the vessel. Obviously, we're not
- 14:08Speaker 2: identifying anybody, no, but just running into people that don't
- 14:13Speaker 2: conduct themselves professionally in a professional space, and it takes
- 14:18Speaker 2: you aback, right, because you have a level of professional
- 14:22Speaker 2: standards of this is how we treat people, This is
- 14:27Speaker 2: how we respond when things get hard and when people
- 14:30Speaker 2: don't meet you there. And I think this is parallel
- 14:33Speaker 2: to relationships. Right when you have grown and sometimes you
- 14:36Speaker 2: outgrow your partner and you are trying to conduct yourself
- 14:39Speaker 2: in a secure way, and you might have a very
- 14:42Speaker 2: insecurely attached partner who is not interested in growing or
- 14:46Speaker 2: doing any work. The contrast becomes really big. Yeah, it does,
- 14:52Speaker 2: and that can leave your nervous system feeling I just
- 14:55Speaker 2: don't belong in this space, but also not really knowing
- 14:59Speaker 2: how to navigate your yourself out of it either. And
- 15:02Speaker 2: I think that that's the challenge that we've faced this
- 15:04Speaker 2: week for sure, is like when someone comes with such
- 15:09Speaker 2: a level of lack of professionalism or instability in just
- 15:14Speaker 2: a discussion. Yeah, you don't. Sometimes you don't know where
- 15:19Speaker 2: to go. Yeah, it does. All the ways that you
- 15:22Speaker 2: would normally try to de escalate don't work because the
- 15:28Speaker 2: instability is so high. Yeah, it makes you feel kind
- 15:31Speaker 2: of trapped in that moment. And it does take a hit.
- 15:33Speaker 2: It took a hit to our nervous system. You had
- 15:35Speaker 2: to recover from. Oh my gosh.
- 15:37Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, I think Sean Waylan said
- 15:40Speaker 1: this in last week. In a couple of weeks weeks ago,
- 15:43Speaker 1: people are.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Coming out of the would work about that episode too,
- 15:45Speaker 2: and listen, listen, God, let me say something about that episode.
- 15:50Speaker 2: We are not here to make everybody comfortable. No, we
- 15:54Speaker 2: are here. We are not here to bring on guests
- 15:57Speaker 2: that we agree with entirely right. We are not here
- 16:00Speaker 2: to stay in an echo chamber. We actually believe in
- 16:03Speaker 2: doing the exact opposite. We agree in being challenged, We
- 16:07Speaker 2: agree in digging into controversy just to finding the truth.
- 16:11Speaker 2: We are committed to bringing on guests that might not
- 16:15Speaker 2: agree with us in a lot of spaces. But if
- 16:19Speaker 2: you just listen to people that agree with you, then
- 16:22Speaker 2: you never grow. You are in your own echo chamber.
- 16:25Speaker 2: And that comes with too. Politics. That comes down to
- 16:30Speaker 2: your values, your belief systems, everything, because you grow and change,
- 16:35Speaker 2: Like my political views have changed one hundred and eighty
- 16:37Speaker 2: degrees in the last fifteen. They continue to change. They
- 16:40Speaker 2: continue to change and adapt, right, and I think that
- 16:43Speaker 2: that shows growth.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Yeah, and we understand like Sean Wayland, you know, there's
- 16:47Speaker 1: you know, he's had controversy around him or whatever whatever
- 16:49Speaker 1: that may be.
- 16:49Speaker 2: I don't even know it all. But we didn't even
- 16:52Speaker 2: talk about those things. So, you know, we talk about
- 16:55Speaker 2: things like accountability, like getting stuff done. We talked about
- 16:57Speaker 2: business a lot, and that was what I was going
- 16:59Speaker 2: to say.
- 16:59Speaker 1: You know, the one question that I asked him at
- 17:01Speaker 1: the end was you know, what is business taught you
- 17:02Speaker 1: that relationships couldn't or vice versa. And it's like and
- 17:05Speaker 1: his answer was so spot on. They're so parallel. They
- 17:08Speaker 1: are so parallel on each other in terms of and if.
- 17:11Speaker 1: And it makes sense why right, because you're in relation
- 17:13Speaker 1: no matter what. So in business you're in relationship. Yeah,
- 17:16Speaker 1: I'm in relationship with my cup.
- 17:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:18Speaker 2: I don't go anywhere without it. It's my emotional is
- 17:21Speaker 2: a work up.
- 17:22Speaker 1: I feel you on that says so like you are
- 17:25Speaker 1: you're in relation with everything, and and you know, we
- 17:30Speaker 1: I think we can take a lot of accountability. Excuse me,
- 17:34Speaker 1: we can take a lot of accountability. And some of
- 17:37Speaker 1: the things we did wrong, you know, we we did
- 17:39Speaker 1: make some mistakes.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Of course we're mad. Of course we've made mistakes.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Of course, you know, we're in this for the first time, right,
- 17:46Speaker 1: So when we hired more people on under the idea
- 17:52Speaker 1: that it was going to help, you know, that was
- 17:57Speaker 1: with the utmost intention of like, Okay, we want to
- 18:00Speaker 1: hire people on so that we have the right people,
- 18:03Speaker 1: so that we can give other people opportunities, and so
- 18:07Speaker 1: that we can get a good workflow down. And sometimes
- 18:10Speaker 1: it's not even about a skill set, it's just that sometimes.
- 18:15Speaker 2: It's just not aligned. Yeah, it just doesn't fit.
- 18:17Speaker 1: And in this case, it just wasn't aligned. It wasn't
- 18:20Speaker 1: fully aligned for what we needed in this time in
- 18:23Speaker 1: this business.
- 18:25Speaker 2: So in this business, you know, we've encountered people outside
- 18:29Speaker 2: of our business, you know, subcontractors, et cetera, that just
- 18:33Speaker 2: didn't align with our vision. You know, we tried to
- 18:36Speaker 2: kind of make it work, but the product that was
- 18:40Speaker 2: created didn't kind of align with the vision or the
- 18:45Speaker 2: personalities of the people didn't feel good to us. Yeah, communication,
- 18:50Speaker 2: I mean it's very key, right, Somebody that was maybe
- 18:52Speaker 2: rude or abrupt, and they're way that they communicated didn't
- 18:56Speaker 2: feel good because we're like a very relaxed, yeah kind
- 18:59Speaker 2: of the flow, go with the flow, like figure things
- 19:02Speaker 2: out as were things out, like we'll we'll figure it out.
- 19:06Speaker 2: And we don't always necessarily gel with people who are
- 19:13Speaker 2: more rude if we you know, and so we've just
- 19:19Speaker 2: like we want to save our piece as we go
- 19:22Speaker 2: through this business. And if people you know, come on
- 19:26Speaker 2: board and like a subcontractor rule or something, because our
- 19:28Speaker 2: team is small and it's tight. Our team is like
- 19:30Speaker 2: a family, and so if if outsiders kind of come
- 19:35Speaker 2: in in a subcontracting space, it's it's like a trial
- 19:41Speaker 2: and error thing, right, like is your workflow going to
- 19:43Speaker 2: match kind of how we do our workflow and is
- 19:45Speaker 2: the is what our vision actually going to be able
- 19:48Speaker 2: to be created by you? And and sometimes it's just
- 19:52Speaker 2: not a match. Right. And but I think what's the
- 19:56Speaker 2: hardest part of this business is that when we come
- 19:59Speaker 2: acrosseople in general, whether that's people we work with or
- 20:04Speaker 2: even you know, clients maybe right that are operating from
- 20:09Speaker 2: a very disregulated space. After you become a much more
- 20:15Speaker 2: regulated person that can self reflect and that can communicate
- 20:19Speaker 2: well being around somebody that is extremely dysregulated that you
- 20:26Speaker 2: are not actively trying to help in that moment. Like
- 20:28Speaker 2: it's different than if it's in a coaching space, right, sure,
- 20:31Speaker 2: But somebody like from the outside, like coming in very
- 20:35Speaker 2: very disregulated and very rude or very abrasive, you know,
- 20:41Speaker 2: cursing or raising their voice or whatever. It takes you
- 20:44Speaker 2: back and you're just like, WHOA, Like I stay away
- 20:49Speaker 2: from that in my life now. Yeah, I had a
- 20:51Speaker 2: marriage that was like that. I did a.
- 20:53Speaker 1: Video on that the other day that I thought it
- 20:55Speaker 1: was really good. Like, every human being in the world
- 20:57Speaker 1: needs a disrespect it's.
- 20:58Speaker 2: A disrespect boundary, that's right, and we have them. And
- 21:01Speaker 2: so if there's if there's disrespect on a professional level,
- 21:06Speaker 2: it's just we're not going to work with you.
- 21:08Speaker 1: Yeah, it just makes it too hard and and I
- 21:10Speaker 1: mean I think that something that we talked about in
- 21:15Speaker 1: the Christa episode was like a woman's intuition is her
- 21:19Speaker 1: strongest skill and it's her. It's her, it's her biggest tool.
- 21:24Speaker 1: And when you trust it and you follow it. So
- 21:26Speaker 1: it's like at the end of the day when in
- 21:28Speaker 1: business you can have people with massive skill sets that
- 21:34Speaker 1: are just so great, knowledgeable, but you have to be
- 21:38Speaker 1: able to follow your intuition and where and how how
- 21:41Speaker 1: it feels in your body, Like how does your body
- 21:43Speaker 1: feel at the end of the day.
- 21:44Speaker 2: And we were dying, We were dying like at the
- 21:48Speaker 2: and then this last quarter, oh, we have we have
- 21:52Speaker 2: run ourselves into the ground, had some subcontractors come in
- 21:56Speaker 2: and try to create some things, and we found people
- 22:01Speaker 2: that have been amazing, like absolutely out of the knocking
- 22:05Speaker 2: it out of the park amazing. And then we have
- 22:09Speaker 2: had people whose personalities just didn't feel workable.
- 22:13Speaker 1: Yeah, not that those people aren't amazing, let me be
- 22:15Speaker 1: clear those there have been people. I feel like there
- 22:19Speaker 1: are people have certain skills and certain attributes that make
- 22:24Speaker 1: them amazing individuals. Again, this goes back to alignment. Does
- 22:29Speaker 1: it feel aligned? So does it feel good? Does it line?
- 22:33Speaker 2: Yeah? It does?
- 22:34Speaker 1: Is communication, working and flowing will because those things, at
- 22:38Speaker 1: the end of the day are the baseline of business.
- 22:41Speaker 2: It's not all about skill set. It's not. And that's
- 22:44Speaker 2: that is something that I think that we have learned.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Soul lessons this last quarter is that you can have
- 22:51Speaker 2: all the skills in the world, and then if you
- 22:55Speaker 2: your workflow is so different or your personality is just
- 22:58Speaker 2: so different, it doesn't feel aligned, and you've got to
- 23:03Speaker 2: move on. And that's a hard thing in business. It's
- 23:06Speaker 2: a hard thing to harding in relation to stop a relationship, right,
- 23:10Speaker 2: it is a hard thing to and any type of
- 23:12Speaker 2: relationship tough breakups are really really tough.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's been emotional for us too, And like
- 23:17Speaker 1: we don't take things like this lightly.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Like we have massive hearts. You and I both gosh too, sometimes.
- 23:26Speaker 1: Yes, sometimes to our detriment. We're both highly empathetic people.
- 23:31Speaker 2: We can't be in this business and do what we
- 23:32Speaker 2: do without high healthy no.
- 23:35Speaker 1: And you know, I just want to acknowledge that anyone
- 23:40Speaker 1: who's running a business or trying to better themselves who
- 23:46Speaker 1: have strong skill sets, like we see you, and we
- 23:51Speaker 1: we understand that this is freaking hard. This is so
- 23:56Speaker 1: massively hard. But I refuse to give up. If anything,
- 24:02Speaker 1: I feel more energized, you know. January February, March, Well,
- 24:06Speaker 1: let's just okay, let's go back November December, January November.
- 24:09Speaker 1: Now we're very difficult, but I feel re energized for
- 24:13Speaker 1: these next ninety days to get to a place where
- 24:17Speaker 1: you and I especially you, because you've been doing this
- 24:21Speaker 1: longer and you have to coach. So I think about
- 24:24Speaker 1: and I got all these kids, so running all them
- 24:29Speaker 1: all over the place, So I often think of you,
- 24:31Speaker 1: Like you know, one day this week was so hard
- 24:34Speaker 1: and like my brain was literal scrambled eggs.
- 24:37Speaker 2: It was. It was much. My brain was mashed potatoes
- 24:39Speaker 2: on the same day. And if our brains are much
- 24:41Speaker 2: on the same day, yeah, it's not going to go. Somehow,
- 24:44Speaker 2: through the grace of God, God gave me the strength
- 24:46Speaker 2: to just coach and do you know this and maybe
- 24:50Speaker 2: we can wrap it up here. Yeah. That day I
- 24:54Speaker 2: got the most beautiful feedback from people in my groups.
- 24:59Speaker 2: From my one one client's saying, You've changed my life,
- 25:03Speaker 2: You've saved my marriage. You've like this group has completely
- 25:09Speaker 2: changed our dynamic like I thought we were. I had
- 25:12Speaker 2: had one couple that said, we have divorce papers sitting
- 25:15Speaker 2: in front of us and we're throwing them away and
- 25:19Speaker 2: they have kids. I had to be so restored because
- 25:22Speaker 2: and that was the same morning that I told Donald
- 25:24Speaker 2: that if in ninety days, I don't feel better physically
- 25:27Speaker 2: that I'm I'm just gonna have to shut it all
- 25:28Speaker 2: down because I can't do it anymore.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad that happened, man, And you know,
- 25:33Speaker 1: and then God was like, come on, now, I got you.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Let me let me restore your faith here.
- 25:38Speaker 2: Let me remember why I sent you here. And you're
- 25:41Speaker 2: not giving up because this isn't your mission, it's mine, right,
- 25:44Speaker 2: That's right.
- 25:44Speaker 1: And you know, and even that morning, the hard day,
- 25:49Speaker 1: you know, Ashley, who's been on the podcast, and we're
- 25:51Speaker 1: going to bring back guys, because man, that episode was so.
- 25:53Speaker 2: Amazing to the episode with Ashley Passtrom. Go listen please
- 25:59Speaker 2: now because it is such a social and spirit completely restored.
- 26:03Speaker 2: You want hope when you feel hopeless, please go watch
- 26:05Speaker 2: that episode.
- 26:06Speaker 1: But she texted us that morning too, she did, yeah,
- 26:08Speaker 1: and she was just like, hey, I just happened to
- 26:10Speaker 1: listen to the last episode, which was one we did
- 26:12Speaker 1: kind of on the rebrand before we knew we're gonna
- 26:14Speaker 1: have to change the name, you know, and she was
- 26:17Speaker 1: just like, I'm so excited for you, you girls, and like
- 26:20Speaker 1: what y'all are doing is so amazing, and you know,
- 26:22Speaker 1: I mean, her message was just so uplifting and so
- 26:25Speaker 1: encouraging because she is truly like your earth earthly angel.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Yeah. God knows just exactly when to send her.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he did, he did. And then just the
- 26:34Speaker 1: fact that you had because I thought of you the
- 26:38Speaker 1: other night, because I knew when you were wrapping up,
- 26:41Speaker 1: like she doesn't get done coaching sometimes, so like nine pm,
- 26:43Speaker 1: ten pm.
- 26:44Speaker 2: The other night it was ten pm, and I'm you, Yeah,
- 26:48Speaker 2: totally my fault.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Another I'm just like, I got my fire hose, guys,
- 26:54Speaker 1: I'm putting out fires left and right.
- 26:55Speaker 2: I left and right.
- 26:57Speaker 1: But I thought of you because at the end of
- 26:58Speaker 1: that day, it was so hard for me to take
- 27:00Speaker 1: a lot of action right throughout that day and I
- 27:03Speaker 1: was just trying so hard to make my brain work.
- 27:06Speaker 2: You were you were frozen. Yeah, And I.
- 27:08Speaker 1: Told Josh that night, and I'm like, all I can
- 27:09Speaker 1: think about right now is Sarah because she's had to
- 27:12Speaker 1: coach all day and I could not. And sometimes that
- 27:15Speaker 1: can I think it can be restoring yourself.
- 27:19Speaker 2: My best done. Yeah. Despite that, Well, it's it's like
- 27:23Speaker 2: God just gave me the right answers for things over
- 27:25Speaker 2: and over again, and I kept getting the feedback, Wow,
- 27:28Speaker 2: this has been so helpful. Like the individual sessions I had,
- 27:30Speaker 2: people were like, you know, I've gone into these types
- 27:34Speaker 2: of sessions and felt like I got nothing out of it.
- 27:36Speaker 2: And I felt like I got I took a whole
- 27:37Speaker 2: page of notes. Yeah, so thank you, and and that
- 27:41Speaker 2: was just everything I needed. I needed to hear God.
- 27:45Speaker 2: I need God because I was like, God just knew
- 27:49Speaker 2: that I was like so close to giving up. And
- 27:53Speaker 2: one person and so many people agreed to do video
- 27:57Speaker 2: testimonies too, so we got to get with them. But
- 28:00Speaker 2: one person said, you are giving a public health level intervention.
- 28:06Speaker 2: This is a public health level intervention. Everybody needs to
- 28:10Speaker 2: be taught these skills. We would see suicide rates go down,
- 28:14Speaker 2: we would see divorce rates go down, we would see
- 28:16Speaker 2: people come out of depression, we would see people come
- 28:19Speaker 2: out of anxiety. And I'm like, yeah, I know what
- 28:21Speaker 2: happened to me. And so it's like this is public
- 28:24Speaker 2: health level and I don't want to inflate myself. It's
- 28:27Speaker 2: the science. I just know the science, right, and I
- 28:30Speaker 2: have faith in God. And I'm just a messenger. So
- 28:34Speaker 2: I'm just here as a messenger. But if I can
- 28:36Speaker 2: be that messenger, But we do need help elevating our platform.
- 28:41Speaker 2: We need some help. We're stagnant a little bit and
- 28:45Speaker 2: we've been scrambling to figure out how do we since
- 28:48Speaker 2: And a lot of it was a change in TikTok.
- 28:50Speaker 2: I'm convinced, you know, it was normal for me to
- 28:53Speaker 2: get hundreds of thousands of US on my videos every day.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Each video would have hundreds of thousands of US. Now
- 28:59Speaker 2: if I get ten thous it's like a decent video.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I think it's everybody's felt that. And
- 29:06Speaker 1: I think, you know which we did a whole episode
- 29:08Speaker 1: on I think it's AI. You know, AI is changing
- 29:10Speaker 1: how people consume and what people do, and how people
- 29:12Speaker 1: pivot and what people learn. You know again, people aren't
- 29:16Speaker 1: paying necessarily for what you know because you can find
- 29:21Speaker 1: what you know anywhere. They're paying for your perspective. They're
- 29:25Speaker 1: paying for your perspective on it, and you can't get.
- 29:29Speaker 2: That from AI. You just can't. Yeah, you cannot. Knowledge
- 29:34Speaker 2: is everywhere, Yeah, but your behavior in relationships doesn't come
- 29:39Speaker 2: from your insight. Knowledge is not in the system. And
- 29:42Speaker 2: I don't think a computer bought at the end of
- 29:44Speaker 2: the day can regulate your nervous system. They can't.
- 29:47Speaker 1: They can't, and I cam an attunement can and I
- 29:49Speaker 1: think too. The shift we see now and then we
- 29:53Speaker 1: are going to wrap this up with the shift we
- 29:55Speaker 1: see now, there will very soon be another shift. What
- 29:58Speaker 1: that will look like, I don't know, oh, I know,
- 30:00Speaker 1: but there will.
- 30:01Speaker 2: Be feels like the tectonic plates in the ground are
- 30:03Speaker 2: always moving on its Yeah, for sure, for sure.
- 30:06Speaker 1: But you know what, guys, we fail forward, That's right,
- 30:08Speaker 1: and we have to fail forward or in your own life, yeah,
- 30:11Speaker 1: and in your relationships, I think too. Like that, I
- 30:15Speaker 1: feel really restored, especially based on what you just said.
- 30:18Speaker 2: Can I get some of that here? Let me Okay,
- 30:22Speaker 2: I'm sending.
- 30:22Speaker 1: It your way, but just based on what you said
- 30:25Speaker 1: about your shire, yeah, I mean no, that did?
- 30:28Speaker 2: That restored my spirit? But my body is yeah, my
- 30:31Speaker 2: body is tired too. My body is so tired.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Yeah, my eyes are twitching currently as we speak. So
- 30:37Speaker 1: a lot of that has to do with caffeine and nicotine,
- 30:40Speaker 1: which is what I've lost seven pounds since I've been
- 30:42Speaker 1: this stress. Seven pounds. You don't even need to shot
- 30:46Speaker 1: uh uh No, I didn't, no ozmpic or anything, just
- 30:49Speaker 1: pure stress.
- 30:50Speaker 2: See when I'm stressed, I eat. You can't have you
- 30:53Speaker 2: not eaten.
- 30:54Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't eaten like a solid meal,
- 30:57Speaker 1: like especially a home cooked meal, and like at least
- 31:00Speaker 1: thirty days.
- 31:00Speaker 2: I have that protein bar in my person. I totally forgot.
- 31:03Speaker 1: See, I'm not even thinking about food because all you
- 31:05Speaker 1: know the coffee and cigarettes, coffee cigarette diet man listen.
- 31:09Speaker 1: And I'm not proud. I did not advocate for smoking
- 31:12Speaker 1: guys under any circumstances. Let me just be really clear,
- 31:15Speaker 1: But sometimes you just got to accept that there are
- 31:18Speaker 1: smoking seasons in your life. And there have been multiple
- 31:21Speaker 1: smoking seasons in my life. And then I'll get tired
- 31:23Speaker 1: of moan bullshit and I'll quit again. And you know,
- 31:25Speaker 1: I've done this over and over and over. It's a pattern.
- 31:27Speaker 1: But I do not advocate for smoking. But in case
- 31:31Speaker 1: you're wondering, smoking is coming back and it's trending.
- 31:33Speaker 2: It's because they're finding out that vapes are worse than cigarette. Yeah,
- 31:36Speaker 2: and so people are giving up their vapping sexy. That's
- 31:39Speaker 2: why Kylie Jenner just did what it was it Vanity Fair?
- 31:42Speaker 2: Is it vogue? I can't remember Vanity a Vanity Fair
- 31:45Speaker 2: where she died her eyebrows blonde and got that like
- 31:47Speaker 2: deep spray tan, and there was smoking a cigarette. Did
- 31:50Speaker 2: not even look No, didn't like her. Yeah, And then
- 31:53Speaker 2: there have been so much press about how smoking is
- 31:56Speaker 2: coming back. Ye, and I'm not advocating for that because
- 31:59Speaker 2: I do not think that is healthy.
- 32:00Speaker 1: No, it's not, it's not, And it's about it's about balance.
- 32:03Speaker 1: And of course I hope none of my jazzer sized
- 32:05Speaker 1: ladies are listening, because they'd be like.
- 32:06Speaker 2: You're listen.
- 32:07Speaker 1: They used to smoke cigarettes outside jazzer size and then
- 32:09Speaker 1: go in and teach jazzer sides. But I am not
- 32:11Speaker 1: proud of the smoking. But smoking, I feel like, is
- 32:15Speaker 1: the old. Yeah, I'm quitting. Smoking is the ultimate. Like
- 32:18Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, Like here I am.
- 32:20Speaker 2: I don't. I know it's actively burning the inside of
- 32:23Speaker 2: my lungs side.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Yes, I know it's killing me. I know it's making
- 32:26Speaker 1: easy ever. Yeah, i know it's making my skin wrinkled.
- 32:29Speaker 1: I know it's taking my teeth yellow like, but I
- 32:31Speaker 1: don't care. And I'm still gonna do it temporarily because
- 32:34Speaker 1: and here, if you think about it, and I promise
- 32:36Speaker 1: that we're going to wrap up. Tobacco is a grounding drug, right,
- 32:39Speaker 1: Native Americans used it for centuries to ground themselves.
- 32:42Speaker 2: It's not the tobacco. It's all the chemicals they put out.
- 32:45Speaker 1: If it was just the tobacco, and they and I
- 32:48Speaker 1: try it, and I've tried to just roll regular tobacco,
- 32:51Speaker 1: but it's not the same.
- 32:52Speaker 2: It's not the same the filter, you know, like all
- 32:55Speaker 2: of it. It's like how ZeVA is not the same
- 32:56Speaker 2: as diet coke.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Right, exactly, just exactly so anyway, and guess what, AI
- 33:01Speaker 1: is not the same as Doctor Hensley. So if you
- 33:03Speaker 1: are looking, if you are looking for intervention in your
- 33:06Speaker 1: own relationship and guys, please you know, bear with us
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- 33:13Speaker 2: I go, yeah, We're yeah.
- 33:14Speaker 1: As we transition into this rebrand refresh is what I
- 33:18Speaker 1: like to call it, just bear with us and stay
- 33:21Speaker 1: with us because we are officially as of next month May,
- 33:26Speaker 1: we will be the Doctor Sarah Hensley Show. Okay, And
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- 33:34Speaker 2: The amazing guests are just going to get more amazing.
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