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Empower U - October 30th - World War II Propaganda Posters · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: The talk station at seven thirty one to fifty five
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  Speaker 1: KRCD Talk Station. Try to make it a happy Thursday
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  Speaker 1: if you can get over to the Fort Thomas Military
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  Speaker 1: Community History Museum if you hadn't heard of it like me,
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  Speaker 1: and I apologize to that. My next guest Deanna bini Key.
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  Speaker 1: She's the director of the Fort Thomas Military Community History Museum.
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  Speaker 1: She's gonna being an Empower Youth Seminar tonight beginning at
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  Speaker 1: seven pm. Log in from home or show up at
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  Speaker 1: three hundred Great Oaks Drive for the Empower Youth Seminar's
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  Speaker 1: classroom and get a big eye full and history of
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  Speaker 1: the World War two propaganda posters. Welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 2: Dean.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to have you on this morning. Well,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, uh my apologies. As I mentioned in the
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  Speaker 1: intro there the Fort Thomas Military and Community History Museum,
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  Speaker 1: I until this morning did not know there was one
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  Speaker 1: of those. Can you tell my listeners when this got
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  Speaker 1: gone and what people can see there? Before we get
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  Speaker 1: to the propaganda posters seminar information, we are a.
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  Speaker 2: Hidden gym in Fort Thomas. We're located in Tower Park,
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  Speaker 2: which is if you're familiar with Fort Thomas Tower Park
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  Speaker 2: is the park that used to be part of the
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  Speaker 2: VA facility during the wartime. The museum was established in
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  Speaker 2: a display case in nineteen ninety nine. We moved to
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  Speaker 2: our current location in two thousand and nine. We are
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  Speaker 2: getting ready to switch out our World War II exhibits.
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  Speaker 2: For the past four years we have had a tribute
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  Speaker 2: to the more than two hundred and fifty thousand soldiers
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  Speaker 2: who processed through Fort Thomas between November of nineteen forty
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  Speaker 2: and June of nineteen forty four.
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  Speaker 1: Oh why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you had a family member from Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana,
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  Speaker 2: or West Virginia and they went were in the Army
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  Speaker 2: or the Army Air Corps, they processed.
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  Speaker 1: Through here, that's amazing. See I learned something, I say,
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  Speaker 1: I learned something in the five caracy more sure every
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  Speaker 1: single day of my life. That is an overwhelming number
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  Speaker 1: of folks. Yes, and you said you distinctly said it
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  Speaker 1: started with a display case. The exhibit's grown quite a
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  Speaker 1: bit since you had a display case, hasn't it, Deenna.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we are up to more than four thousand artifacts.
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  Speaker 2: We're about two thirds military and a third community based.
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  Speaker 2: For our exhibits, we do have a permanent couple of
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  Speaker 2: permanent military rooms, and then we have a Beverly Hills
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  Speaker 2: tribute room I've about the fire Yeah's. And then we
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  Speaker 2: have two rooms that rotate depending on what exhibit we
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  Speaker 2: choose to put. Next year, those two rooms will be
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  Speaker 2: converted from current World War Two things to one room
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  Speaker 2: will be all about the schools over the years, and
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  Speaker 2: one room will be probably decades of businesses with little
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  Speaker 2: artifacts from various businesses.
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  Speaker 1: In ten all related to the Fort Thomas community locally.
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  Speaker 1: So rotating stock. I guess it's almost like the Smithsonian.
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  Speaker 1: They have thousands and thousands of stuff behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: and you've got to bring it out every once in
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  Speaker 1: a while to show people. So a rotating exhibits. The
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  Speaker 1: next time you go to the Fort Thomas Military and
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  Speaker 1: Community History it may be different than the prior time
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  Speaker 1: you've been there. So there's a strong encouragement for folks
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  Speaker 1: to keep going back time and time again. Dan, how
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  Speaker 1: did you get interested in the World War Two? Since
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  Speaker 1: you are doing the World War Two propaganda poster empower
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  Speaker 1: you seminar tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've always been interested in World War Two. My
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  Speaker 2: father was a veteran of World War Two. He served
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  Speaker 2: with Patton's Third Army in the sixth Armored Division. So
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  Speaker 2: I have a great respect for anything World War Two.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I was a history was my I've one
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  Speaker 2: of my double majors in college. The museum came about
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  Speaker 2: because I have curated a couple of exhibits over the years.
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  Speaker 2: I am the director now because the previous director had
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  Speaker 2: a health emergency and I said, okay, I'll take over
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  Speaker 2: for a year. That was in twenty seventeen and I'm
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  Speaker 2: still there. Well, I will do it probably another couple
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  Speaker 2: of years because i'll be eighty and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be time to retire.
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  Speaker 1: Oh shush, you're doing what you love. That's what's keeping
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  Speaker 1: you alive. And well, Deanna, let's pause because I want
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  Speaker 1: to get I have a couple of pointed questions to
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  Speaker 1: ask you about the propaganda posters themselves. Will get help
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  Speaker 1: my listeners understand what you're going to be talking about.
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  Speaker 1: It's seven thirty five. We'll take a break and bring
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  Speaker 1: it right back. It's empower You talk station tonight tonight
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  Speaker 1: seven pm. Empower Youoamerica dot org. Your register for the
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  Speaker 1: class World War two propaganda posters brought to us by
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  Speaker 1: the director of the Fort Thomas Military Community Hospital. My
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  Speaker 1: guest today Deana Binnicky. I'm I remember Dean. I apologize.
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  Speaker 1: I had asked for a reading on the pronunciation of
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  Speaker 1: your last name, and Joe had told me and I
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  Speaker 1: wrote a big I over the top of the EI party.
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  Speaker 2: You remember, remember Muler.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. But I'll remember Dana Binicky first because I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go to the Fort Thomas Military and Community
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  Speaker 1: History Museum sometime here soon. But the World War Two
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  Speaker 1: propaganda posters are rather interesting. I think contextually it's really
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  Speaker 1: important that that was the vehicle for our government to
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  Speaker 1: communicate to us, because this is really early on in television.
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  Speaker 1: Hardly anybody had TVs at this period of time, and
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  Speaker 1: there was no Internet, so if you weren't seeing it
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  Speaker 1: on the very hard to find televisions, you weren't going
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  Speaker 1: to get the message. They put these propaganda posters up,
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  Speaker 1: and they dealt with a whole bunch of different subject matters.
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  Speaker 1: It isn't just I want you with Uncle Sam asking
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  Speaker 1: you to enlist in the US Army, but it's also
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  Speaker 1: you know, encouraging loose lips, saying ships you got Rosie,
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  Speaker 1: but are encouraging work, encouraging people to engage in some
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  Speaker 1: measure of belt tightening because the troops need all the
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  Speaker 1: help they can get. So it's it's an interesting phenomenon.
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  Speaker 1: These posters are amazing in terms of the artwork they present.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any of them that stand out particularly
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  Speaker 1: for you, Deanna?
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  Speaker 2: We have two hundred and sixty seven of the from
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  Speaker 2: World War One and World War Two. A volunteer from
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  Speaker 2: the museum rescued them when the dav was getting ready
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  Speaker 2: to throw them away. Oh, and so we have them
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  Speaker 2: in stories. There are the ones that I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about tonight are ones that we own, except for
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  Speaker 2: the I want you you know the Uncle Sam. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he actually did that poster for World War One and
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  Speaker 2: it was revived and reissued for World War Two. Montgomery
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  Speaker 2: flag used himself as the model, and he did several
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  Speaker 2: Uncle Sam posters in different poses. I'm going to have
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  Speaker 2: that one because I talk about that iconic poster because
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  Speaker 2: you still see it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, sure, got.
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  Speaker 2: Format and people recognize that poster more than any other poster.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about Rosie the River because
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  Speaker 2: we don't own that one. I'm not going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the Norman Rockwell for freedoms, because we don't own that.
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  Speaker 2: Probably one of my favorites is a war bond poster
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  Speaker 2: that shows a little girl, probably about two years old,
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  Speaker 2: and it simply says to have and to hold and
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  Speaker 2: you see this not quite Gerber baby a little bit
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  Speaker 2: older than that, and then it says, by extra bonds.
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  Speaker 2: Another favorite is one of the James flag James Montgomery
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  Speaker 2: flag posters, which is not politically correct, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: have it up in the exhibit right now because I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: We're not there to invite controversy, and it was a
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  Speaker 2: time when we designed this. Anyway, it's Uncle Sam rolling
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  Speaker 2: up his sleeves and saying, Jap, you're next.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember seeing that one before.
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  Speaker 2: Which was designed after the victory in Europe. But in
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  Speaker 2: a war weary world, we still needed to be motivated
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  Speaker 2: to support our troops, and the troops needed to be
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  Speaker 2: motivated to go to the Pacific and continue the flight
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  Speaker 2: the fight. So I've got We had an exhibit a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago that pulled seventy five posters from both
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  Speaker 2: World War One and World War Two. They were roughly
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  Speaker 2: evenly divided between the Two Wars, which meant I had
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  Speaker 2: about forty close to forty posters for World War Two.
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  Speaker 2: I'm only featuring twenty two of those tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be a lot with just twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much history behind these, you know. And I
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  Speaker 1: as we were talking, I went ahead and did an
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  Speaker 1: Internet search on propaganda posters in the United States. You
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  Speaker 1: mentioned sort of the that racist element that might seep through.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we were in the middle of a war,
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  Speaker 1: but the depictions of Japanese and that stereotypical glasses, the
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  Speaker 1: buck tooth kind of looked that they always depicted them
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  Speaker 1: in movies as obviously that perceived as extremely racist, but
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  Speaker 1: that image appeared on a lot of World War two
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  Speaker 1: posters as well.
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  Speaker 2: So it's well, the idea of propaganda is to influence
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  Speaker 2: thinking and disseminate information, and the message was we are
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  Speaker 2: the good guys and the enemies of the bad guys,
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  Speaker 2: and those stereotypes that showed up. I've got a poster
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  Speaker 2: that shows an arm holding a knife stabbing through a Bible.
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  Speaker 2: The arm on them, like the cufflink is the Nazi
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  Speaker 2: slastica holding the knife destroying Christianity. That's one that's quite striking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, those messages really tend to click, especially when you're
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of a war, a war. So we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna learn all about this tonight seven pm. I just
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  Speaker 1: saw another one open Trap Make Happy jap with that
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  Speaker 1: same sort of stereotypical image of a Japanese person talking
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  Speaker 1: about like loose lips sink ships. It's an image of
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  Speaker 1: him with his ear to a keyhole in a door.
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  Speaker 1: So this is just fascinating stuff. It's all on full
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  Speaker 1: display tonight, at least a handful of them relative to
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  Speaker 1: the entire exhibits numbers, and Deanna's going to do a
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  Speaker 1: great job explaining all this to you and walking you
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  Speaker 1: through World War two propaganda posters. Deanna biny Key, it's
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  Speaker 1: been a real pleasure having you on. Keep up the
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  Speaker 1: great work, and thanks for introducing me and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of my listeners perhaps to the for Thomas Military and
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  Speaker 1: Community History Museum, which I'm going to encourage everyone to
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  Speaker 1: check out sometime real soon.
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  Speaker 2: Well check it out next spring, because we're about to
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  Speaker 2: close for this shole. We're not open. We're not open
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  Speaker 2: in December, January, and February because the weather is a factor.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough, and.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's our downtime when we break down exhibits and
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  Speaker 2: put new exhibits up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad I said that out loud because somebody might
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  Speaker 1: have shut up next month. Well do you have a
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  Speaker 1: website just for the museum.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the best way to get in touch with me
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  Speaker 2: is through our I think there's a website that the
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  Speaker 2: city operates because of the city owns the museum. But
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  Speaker 2: the best way to arrange a private tour, because we
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  Speaker 2: still we'll do private tours between mail and mid December
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  Speaker 2: is Fort Thomas Museum at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Fort Thomas Museum at gmail dot com. That's fantastic. I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad you mentioned private tours as well, Deanna. Well keep
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  Speaker 1: up the great work. Don't retire. We need you over
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  Speaker 1: there doing all this great history work and taking care
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  Speaker 1: of the museum and making Fort Thomas proud. It's been
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  Speaker 1: a pleasure having you on. Good luck with a seminar tonight, folks,
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  Speaker 1: Empower Youamerica dot org. Make sure you register, either show
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  Speaker 1: up in person or login from home. It should be
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  Speaker 1: really fascinating.