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- 0:00Speaker 0: Provided by Thomas Allgaier and Frennus, based on the most relevant posts on LinkedIn about M&A insights from CW.
- 0:06Speaker 0: seven-and-eight.
- 0:07Speaker 0: Frenness is a BDB market research company supporting M& A consultancies with The Market in competition perspective for example In commercial due diligence's.
- 0:17Speaker 1: And uh Just so we are all On the same page.
- 0:20Speaker 1: For this deep dive We're looking at very specific snapshot
- 0:24Speaker 0: Right!
- 0:25Speaker 1: The market From calendar weeks Seven and eight Of twenty-twenty six.
- 0:28Speaker 0: Yeah, and it really feels like we are in a bit of transition period right now doesn't
- 0:33Speaker 1: It does?
- 0:33Speaker 0: I mean We aren't that wild mania of twenty twenty one anymore?
- 0:36Speaker 1: Oh definitely not.
- 0:37Speaker 0: but we also aren't the deep freeze of twenty three either.
- 0:41Speaker 0: if you had to Put A label on The vibe for the listener Right Now What Would You Call?
- 0:45Speaker 1: It?
- 0:46Speaker 1: i call it strategic discipline
- 0:47Speaker 0: Strategic Discipline.
- 0:49Speaker 0: yeah
- 0:49Speaker 1: That is the exact phrase that keeps coming up In the data.
- 0:51Speaker 1: But market Is Awake You know, the checkbooks are open.
- 0:55Speaker 0: But they aren't just throwing money at anything with a pitch deck?
- 0:57Speaker 1: Exactly!
- 0:58Speaker 1: The money isn't just flying out of door It is highly calculated now
- 1:02Speaker 0: Which honestly it's probably much healthier place for industry to be
- 1:05Speaker 1: A hundred percent.
- 1:06Speaker 0: We saw Eric Kutcher share that McKinsey report recently and headline numbers were...
- 1:11Speaker 1: massive.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the twenty-twenty five wrap up
- 1:13Speaker 0: right?
- 1:14Speaker 0: Twenty twenty-five deal activity in The Americas surged sixty four percent to two point nine trillion dollars.
- 1:21Speaker 1: It's a staggering figure it
- 1:22Speaker 0: is.
- 1:23Speaker 0: but Kutcher's Point wasn't just about.
- 1:24Speaker 0: the sheer volume was
- 1:26Speaker 1: no and that Is a crucial insight for us.
- 1:28Speaker 1: To start with kutcher is arguing That m&a has shifted from being this the cyclical tactic.
- 1:35Speaker 0: Something you just do when interest rates are low and you feel rich?
- 1:38Speaker 0: Right,
- 1:38Speaker 1: exactly it shifted from that to a permanent strategic tool.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Companies are finally realizing they just cannot innovate organically fast enough to survive.
- 1:47Speaker 0: They literally have to buy-to adapt!
- 1:49Speaker 1: Yes, so M&A is effectively the new R&D A
- 1:52Speaker 0: new R & D. I like that
- 1:53Speaker 1: and The momentum is very real right now.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Mitch Berlin was referencing the EY Parthenon deal barometer noting That USM&A Ended twenty twenty five on this massive upswing.
- 2:03Speaker 0: i think value Is up something Like sixty percent?
- 2:05Speaker 0: Sixty
- 2:05Speaker 1: percent yeah And that energy has carried Right into these first weeks of Twenty twenty six.
- 2:10Speaker 1: the engine is Definitely
- 2:11Speaker 0: warm.
- 2:12Speaker 0: Okay, so the engine is running.
- 2:14Speaker 0: To help you navigate this we have three clear clusters to work through on today's deep dive.
- 2:20Speaker 1: let's lay them out
- 2:21Speaker 0: first.
- 2:22Speaker 0: We are going to start with the market pulse.
- 2:25Speaker 1: So macro trends regional hotspots
- 2:28Speaker 0: exactly specifically looking at The DA CH region.
- 2:31Speaker 0: then we will get into the weeds of deals and portfolio moves.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Who was writing?
- 2:36Speaker 1: The billion dollar checks in why
- 2:38Speaker 0: right?
- 2:39Speaker 0: And finally, we will look at AI and tech which is fascinating because it's playing a double role right now.
- 2:44Speaker 1: It's the target in The Weapon!
- 2:45Speaker 1: Yes...it
- 2:46Speaker 0: IS THE THING EVERYONE WANTS TO BUY but IT'S ALSO THE TOOL THEY'RE USING TO DO THE BUYING.
- 2:50Speaker 0: Let's
- 2:51Speaker 1: start with the polls though.
- 2:53Speaker 0: The macro view feels surprisingly optimistic.
- 2:56Speaker 0: Marcus Wagner was referencing outlooks from Goldman Sachs & Morgan Stanley.
- 3:00Speaker 0: he used this phrase CONVERGENCE OF FORCES Which
- 3:02Speaker 1: usually sounds like the plot of disaster movie.
- 3:04Speaker 0: I know right?
- 3:05Speaker 0: But here I think he means it in a purely positive way.
- 3:08Speaker 1: He does, It is the convergence of three specific drivers.
- 3:11Speaker 1: First obviously The massive investment and AI.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Second A renewed appetite for cross-border deals.
- 3:18Speaker 1: but the third one Is probably most practical For the listener
- 3:21Speaker 0: The pressure on private equity to monetize
- 3:23Speaker 1: Exactly Limited partners The investors.
- 3:25Speaker 1: They want their money back
- 3:26Speaker 0: Because they have been sitting On these assets for long time now.
- 3:30Speaker 1: You cannot hold an asset forever.
- 3:32Speaker 1: So that monetization pressure is effectively a forced march to sell
- 3:36Speaker 0: which puts inventory on the market
- 3:38Speaker 1: and That fuels.
- 3:39Speaker 1: The deal flow
- 3:40Speaker 0: makes total sense, And it isn't just tech in finance.
- 3:42Speaker 0: seeing this action I was actually really surprised by the data from the consumer packaged goods sector
- 3:48Speaker 1: the CPG space.
- 3:49Speaker 0: Yeah Katrina Yavush flagged a fifty percent surge in global M&A value.
- 3:54Speaker 0: there CPG usually feels so sleepy.
- 3:57Speaker 0: Yeah, sleepy.
- 3:58Speaker 0: Reliable but sleepy?
- 3:59Speaker 1: Defensive is the polite term we use Right
- 4:01Speaker 0: defensive.
- 4:01Speaker 1: But Yavash points out that this surge Is not about just buying more of the same.
- 4:05Speaker 1: It's portfolio reshaping
- 4:07Speaker 0: Shedding the legacy stuff.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Exactly Big conglomerates are shedding those legacy assets The brands our grandparents bought That simply aren't growing anymore And they're doubling down on high growth areas.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Its
- 4:20Speaker 0: basically spring cleaning but On a billion dollar scale.
- 4:23Speaker 0: Thats
- 4:23Speaker 1: great way to put it.
- 4:24Speaker 0: Speaking of cleaning things up, let's talk about the regulatory environment because for a while there getting a big deal approved felt like pulling teeth.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Oh it was brutal!
- 4:33Speaker 0: Lydia Barron highlighted the Santander Webster merger which was a twelve point three billion dollar deal but she focused entirely on the timeline
- 4:42Speaker 1: and this is huge signal for the market right now.
- 4:45Speaker 1: She noted that regulatory gridlock is finally easing up.
- 4:48Speaker 0: The numbers are pretty striking.
- 4:50Speaker 0: They
- 4:50Speaker 1: really are.
- 4:51Speaker 1: The average approval time for bank marchers used to be one hundred and eighty-one days.
- 4:55Speaker 0: Half a year,
- 4:56Speaker 1: right?
- 4:56Speaker 1: And now it is dropping to around one hundred seventeen days!
- 5:00Speaker 0: That's basically two whole months of your life
- 5:02Speaker 1: back... It has two months reduced risk.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Deal fatigue is very real thing.
- 5:06Speaker 1: if you know that you aren't going stuck in regulatory purgatory You are much more likely sign the paper.
- 5:11Speaker 0: It removes layer uncertainty just kills deals
- 5:15Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 5:16Speaker 0: Let's zoom in geographically for a second.
- 5:18Speaker 0: We often get very U.S-centric on these deep dives, but there is a lot of movement in the Dach region right now.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Germany Austria Switzerland Yes
- 5:27Speaker 0: and Tuhan Erdemi had some numbers that frankly I did not expect at all.
- 5:32Speaker 1: The Dach Region Is Fascinating Right Now?
- 5:34Speaker 1: Erdemie Highlighted That In Twenty Twenty Five They Saw About Six Hundred Software Deals.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Six Hundred Yeah Worth Nearly Thirty Three Point Nine Billion Euros.
- 5:44Speaker 1: But you really have to look at where that money is going.
- 5:47Speaker 0: It's not the flashy consumer stuff.
- 5:48Speaker 1: No, it is not social media apps...it is cybersecurity ERP and logistic software
- 5:54Speaker 0: Which makes perfect sense for the German economy.
- 5:56Speaker 0: when you think about how
- 5:57Speaker 1: so well
- 5:58Speaker 0: if you are an industrial powerhouse You don't need a new photo-sharing app?
- 6:01Speaker 0: You need better Logistics software to move your cars in chemicals
- 6:04Speaker 1: precisely it is B to be tech supporting The heavy Industrial base And the advisors over there are incredibly busy.
- 6:11Speaker 0: Siddharth Urdalp noted that Lincoln International actually ranked number one for sell side M&A advisory in the DACH region.
- 6:18Speaker 0: Right,
- 6:19Speaker 1: and for you listening who might not be in the advisory trenches every day, Sell Side Advisory essentially means they are the ones hired by the company being sold.
- 6:27Speaker 0: Their job is to find best buyer and drive up price
- 6:30Speaker 1: Correct.
- 6:31Speaker 1: And looking specifically at Switzerland there's an even more niche trend emerging.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Greg Grubley launching a Swiss M& A Succession Forum.
- 6:41Speaker 0: A forum just for corporate succession?
- 6:43Speaker 0: Yes,
- 6:43Speaker 1: think about the demographics there.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Switzerland has a massive number of family-owned SMEs Small and medium enterprises And the
- 6:51Speaker 0: founders are aging out.
- 6:52Speaker 1: The owners are retiring en masse... ...and handing over a family business is not like spitting off a corporate division.
- 6:58Speaker 0: Oh I'm sure it's much messier.
- 7:00Speaker 1: You have tax issues obviously But you also have emotional dynamics.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Legacy concerns Family
- 7:05Speaker 0: infighting
- 7:06Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Yeah Grobley is creating space specifically to handle the complexities of that generational turnover.
- 7:13Speaker 0: You know, that emotional side-the human factor?
- 7:15Speaker 0: That is actually a perfect transition to our next point!
- 7:18Speaker 1: The soft stuff...
- 7:19Speaker 0: Right we talk about billions of dollars in logistics software but Jennifer J Fondervais shared some insights recently from David Lancefield's podcast about organizational grief.
- 7:29Speaker 1: I am so glad you brought this up.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Grief is not a word you typically see in an M&A Excel spreadsheet?
- 7:35Speaker 0: No, usually it's just synergies
- 7:38Speaker 1: Right.
- 7:38Speaker 1: But Fondervais' point that if you ignore the fact employees are mourning their old culture or identity You actively put deal value at risk.
- 7:47Speaker 0: You buy company for its top talent and then the talent walks out of door because they feel like lost home.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Exactly It isn't soft stuff.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Desvadgamma had similar stat.
- 7:57Speaker 1: He argued Ninety percent of deals fail not because of the financials, but because a poor communication and dialogue issues.
- 8:04Speaker 0: So it just comes down to talking to people?
- 8:06Speaker 1: It is this silent killer of integrations.
- 8:08Speaker 1: And Anirvan Sen took it a step further with this brilliant analogy.
- 8:12Speaker 1: He says it's not just as simple culture clash.
- 8:14Speaker 1: What does he call it an operating system mismatch?
- 8:17Speaker 0: oh I like that.
- 8:18Speaker 0: walk me through that OS mismatch idea.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Imagine an entrepreneurial startup.
- 8:23Speaker 1: their internal OS was built for speed risk-taking and autonomy.
- 8:27Speaker 0: Decision making is super fluid, right?
- 8:30Speaker 1: Then they get bought by a massive multinational corporate whose OS is built for compliance stability in strict hierarchy.
- 8:37Speaker 0: so it Is not that the two teams hate each other.
- 8:39Speaker 0: It's that one is running Linux And The Other is Running Windows.
- 8:42Speaker 0: Ninety Five
- 8:43Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 8:44Speaker 1: They fundamentally process work In different ways.
- 8:47Speaker 1: If you don't recognize That mismatch during the deal process, you will grind gears until the whole machine breaks.
- 8:54Speaker 0: You have to proactively write a patch...to make them work
- 8:56Speaker 0: together.".
- 8:57Speaker 0: That's
- 8:57Speaker 1: it!
- 8:58Speaker 1: And speaking of avoiding critical mistakes…Dirk Salmer had a real warning for founders looking to sell.
- 9:03Speaker 0: Stop picking advisors based solely on fees?
- 9:06Speaker 1: Yes.
- 9:07Speaker 1: It is classic penny-wise pound foolish mistake—you are selling your life's work.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Do really want broker who charges one percent
- 9:14Speaker 1: less?...
- 9:15Speaker 1: or the one who actually has the track record to close the deal at a twenty percent higher valuation.
- 9:19Speaker 0: Point taken, you pay for results!
- 9:22Speaker 0: All right let's move into this second cluster deals and portfolio moves.
- 9:25Speaker 1: This is where we see that strategic discipline playing out in real time.
- 9:29Speaker 0: And we have start with the mega-deal.
- 9:31Speaker 0: Alistair Matchett reported on Dan Aher acquiring Massimo
- 9:35Speaker 1: For nine point nine billion dollars.
- 9:38Speaker 0: That was massive check to write.
- 9:40Speaker 0: They paid forty percent premium
- 9:42Speaker 1: But that premium is the real story here.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Danaher is an absolute machine when it comes to M&A.
- 9:48Speaker 1: They do not overpay by accident.
- 9:50Speaker 0: So what does that premium tell us?
- 9:52Speaker 1: Paying forty percent over market tells you.
- 9:55Speaker 1: they see immense long-term strategic value in Mossimo's medical monitoring technology,
- 10:02Speaker 0: they are buying top tier quality and not looking for a bargain bin asset.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Exactly!
- 10:07Speaker 1: It is a defensive moat around their medical tech portfolio.
- 10:10Speaker 0: Okay, from MedTech over to FinTech Philip Chow broke down the Capital One acquisition of Brex for five point one-five billion dollars
- 10:18Speaker 1: The largest FinTech acquisition by US Bank
- 10:21Speaker 0: Right Now.
- 10:22Speaker 0: I know Brex.
- 10:23Speaker 0: they are the corporate card for startups
- 10:25Speaker 1: But Five
- 10:25Speaker 0: Billions really high For just a credit card company doesn't it?
- 10:28Speaker 1: It definitely would be if that is all They were buying.
- 10:31Speaker 1: but Chow points out this Is really about the technologization Of startup banking
- 10:35Speaker 0: Technologization.
- 10:36Speaker 0: Yes,
- 10:37Speaker 1: Brex isn't just a plastic card.
- 10:39Speaker 1: it is a comprehensive software platform that handles expenses travel Automated cash management.
- 10:45Speaker 0: so by buying brex capital one Isn't just acquiring a customer list?
- 10:50Speaker 1: No They are buying a modern B to be operating system.
- 10:53Speaker 0: So Capital One Is essentially trying To stop being Just A traditional Bank and Start Being A true FinTech Platform.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Exactly they Are Buying Their Way Into the Future of how Businesses Actually Manage their Money on a daily basis.
- 11:06Speaker 0: Let's pivot to infrastructure, but not roads and bridges!
- 11:09Speaker 0: We are talking about digital pipes...
- 11:11Speaker 1: The plumbing of the internet?
- 11:12Speaker 1: Right
- 11:12Speaker 0: Andrea Ward shared the Liberty Global & Telfonica deal.
- 11:17Speaker 0: They're acquiring substantial group for two billion pounds.
- 11:20Speaker 1: This is major UK play.
- 11:22Speaker 1: they're creating massive fiber platform directly challenge BT Openreach.
- 11:26Speaker 0: So it's pure infrastructure play
- 11:28Speaker 1: Absolutely In an AI driven world data have travel fast.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Whoever owns the fiber actual physical pipes has immense market power.
- 11:36Speaker 0: Speaking of growing industries and infrastructure, this next one is a bit.
- 11:59Speaker 0: But the Canadians have already been through this entire cycle.
- 12:02Speaker 0: Exactly,
- 12:03Speaker 1: companies like Kronos and Organogram.
- 12:05Speaker 1: they've seen this movie before.
- 12:07Speaker 1: They had the capital in operational scars from their own legalization years ago.
- 12:12Speaker 0: So we saw Krono's acquiring Canadalar In The Netherlands Right And Organgram is buying Sanity Group over Germany.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Yes, and Valdivinos' key insight Is that Canadian Capital now views European infrastructure as highly investable.
- 12:26Speaker 0: They aren't just dipping a toe in to test the waters.
- 12:28Speaker 0: No,
- 12:28Speaker 1: they are buying up hard distribution channels and production facilities!
- 12:32Speaker 1: They want to own an underlying European market before domestic European players can fully scale-up.
- 12:37Speaker 0: It is total land grab
- 12:38Speaker 1: A very strategic landcrab
- 12:41Speaker 0: from weed to influencers.
- 12:43Speaker 0: Let's look at the creator economy.
- 12:46Speaker 0: Chris Irwin discussed futures acquisition of Sheer Lux
- 12:50Speaker 1: The potential eighty million pound deal.
- 12:52Speaker 0: This is a legacy media company buying a digital brand.
- 12:56Speaker 0: Usually, historically anyway that's just to play for web traffic right?
- 12:58Speaker 0: Yeah You buy the site.
- 12:59Speaker 0: you slap your programmatic ads on it.
- 13:01Speaker 1: usually yes But Erwin says this is fundamentally different.
- 13:05Speaker 1: he calls it buying social engines.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Social
- 13:08Speaker 0: engines Sure
- 13:09Speaker 1: looks isn't Just A website with passive Traffic.
- 13:12Speaker 1: It Is a Brand With very deep influence and real community trust.
- 13:16Speaker 0: So legacy media is finally realizing that in twenty-twenty six, you cannot just buy cheap eyeballs anymore?
- 13:22Speaker 1: Exactly!
- 13:22Speaker 1: You have to buy engagement...you have the actual relationship with the audience.
- 13:26Speaker 0: That's such a key distinction for the listener to internalize.
- 13:29Speaker 0: Traffic is rented but Community is owned Well
- 13:32Speaker 1: said.
- 13:32Speaker 0: And Finally In this cluster We Have A German Deal That Sits Right At The Intersection Of Workforce & Tech.
- 13:38Speaker 0: Lane Gordon covered Multiverse acquiring Stackfuel.
- 13:41Speaker 1: This is honestly one of my favorite signals from these two weeks, so Multiverse does apprenticeships and StackFuel does data in AI training.
- 13:49Speaker 1: Gordon points out that buyers right now are actively chasing AI capability plus human execution
- 13:56Speaker 0: because it's not enough to just buy an AI software license.
- 13:59Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 14:00Speaker 1: You need a workforce who actually knows how to deploy it.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Multiverse bought StackFule to get the curriculum and market access instantly.
- 14:08Speaker 0: They are betting that the biggest bottleneck in the near future isn't AI technology itself.
- 14:14Speaker 1: It is people who know how to drive it,
- 14:15Speaker 0: which sets us up perfectly for our third and final theme of The Deep Dive—AI & Tech In Dealmaking!
- 14:22Speaker 0: We just talked about training on it but let's talk actually buying it.
- 14:26Speaker 1: AI is completely ubiquitous here.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Let start with AI as acquisition target.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Cybersecurity is exploding.
- 14:32Speaker 0: Gashan Youssef and Mike Previtt noted that January, twenty-twenty six was absolutely huge over thirty cyber deals in just one month.
- 14:39Speaker 1: And look closely at what they are buying.
- 14:41Speaker 1: CrowdStrike acquired SGNL for seven hundred forty million dollars.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Wow!
- 14:46Speaker 1: An Infoblox bought AXR.
- 14:48Speaker 1: The major focus across the board is hardening identity and cloud security.
- 14:51Speaker 1: Why
- 14:52Speaker 0: identity specifically though?
- 14:53Speaker 0: Because
- 14:54Speaker 1: traditional network perimeter completely gone.
- 14:56Speaker 1: You cannot just build a firewall around your corporate office anymore.
- 15:00Speaker 0: Because everyone is everywhere!
- 15:01Speaker 0: Exactly,
- 15:02Speaker 1: and in a world filled with deep fakes and advanced AI bots proving that you are actually YOU... ...is the hardest security problem to solve right now.
- 15:11Speaker 0: Companies are terrified of AI-powered social engineering
- 15:14Speaker 1: So they're buying companies that secure identity at their source.
- 15:18Speaker 0: That makes a lot of sense.
- 15:19Speaker 0: So companies are buying AI security to protect against AI attacks, but they're also using AI to physically execute the deals
- 15:27Speaker 0: themselves.".
- 15:28Speaker 1: This is the massive operational shift.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Brett Claffey asserts that if your M&A strategy does not include agentic AI you were already falling behind.
- 15:37Speaker 0: Let's pause on agentic
- 15:38Speaker 0: A.I.,
- 15:39Speaker 0: sounds like sci-fi.
- 15:40Speaker 1: It is the next step up from basic chat interfaces.
- 15:43Speaker 1: A Chatbot answers a question for you, an agent actually performs a task autonomously.
- 15:48Speaker 1: it plans and executes a workflow.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Oh wow!
- 15:51Speaker 1: Dave Fields from Deal Room notes that CFOs are using this right now to execute deals faster.
- 15:56Speaker 1: they're automating data digestion in document review.
- 15:59Speaker 0: So imagine AI doesn't just store your due diligence documents but reads them extracts revenue data flags inconsistencies and writes the memo.
- 16:11Speaker 1: It is doing work of a junior analyst at two in morning
- 16:14Speaker 0: Just much faster, without needing coffee break Exactly!
- 16:18Speaker 1: Gwen Pope from Tiger Team M&A highlighted this specifically for cross-workstream integration planning
- 16:24Speaker 0: Because integration usually where deals go to die it just takes too long to merge companies.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Right.
- 16:30Speaker 1: She's seeing teams use AI to generate detailed integration plans in minutes And these plans are anchored directly into specific value drivers.
- 16:39Speaker 0: So instead of a team of consultants taking three weeks to build out a massive gaunt chart, the AI gives you first draft in ten minutes.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Yes and an M&A speed is value if you integrate three months faster.
- 16:51Speaker 1: there's three month synergies that have already been banked.
- 16:54Speaker 0: There was one last piece of advice regarding tech from Alexander Ivanov.
- 16:59Speaker 0: it wasn't about using AI to read contracts but finding deals in the first place
- 17:04Speaker 1: Signal based targeting.
- 17:06Speaker 1: I love this concept because it is incredibly practical.
- 17:09Speaker 1: He's essentially saying, stop with the massive email blasts
- 17:12Speaker 0: Stop spamming five thousand CEOs asking if they want to sell their life work Exactly.
- 17:17Speaker 0: So what do you do instead?
- 17:19Speaker 1: You look for specific data signals.
- 17:20Speaker 1: They give great example.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Look for a fifty-eight year old business owner who just hired new CFO in market that actively consolidating.
- 17:29Speaker 0: Ah I see The owner approaching retirement age and they are bringing in a financial pro to clean up the books.
- 17:35Speaker 1: They're actively grooming company for sale.
- 17:38Speaker 1: that is not luck, it's clear signal.
- 17:40Speaker 0: It's pattern indicates high propensity to sell.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Ivanov argues using data to find those specific needles in haystack.
- 17:48Speaker 1: how you win in twenty-twenty six?
- 17:50Speaker 1: Not by just use louder megaphone.
- 17:52Speaker 0: It about being sniper not using shotgun.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Couldn't said better myself?
- 17:57Speaker 0: Before we wrap up, there's one thought I want to leave you with.
- 17:59Speaker 0: building on all this.
- 18:01Speaker 0: We talk about AI automating due diligence and finding targets but the next frontier is going be AI evaluating the cultural fit between two companies before the deal even signs.
- 18:11Speaker 0: imagine an agent analyzing internal communication styles to predict that operating system mismatch.
- 18:18Speaker 0: Anna Revensen talked about
- 18:19Speaker 1: That would a game changer for deal success rates.
- 18:22Speaker 0: Something to mull over.
- 18:24Speaker 0: So, pulling all of this together from the macro bullishness to specific deal mechanics.
- 18:29Speaker 0: What is the core takeaway for The Listener?
- 18:31Speaker 1: It goes back that first thought – strategic discipline!
- 18:35Speaker 1: The market is back…the money flowing whether it's into DACH logistics, Canadian cannabis or U.S.
- 18:41Speaker 1: cybersecurity.
- 18:42Speaker 1: But
- 18:42Speaker 0: the wild west days are over.
- 18:44Speaker 1: You need discipline...you need understand human factor so your deal doesn't implode in culture shock.
- 18:49Speaker 0: You need leverage agentic AI move faster than competition
- 18:53Speaker 1: and you have to look for those specific signals in
- 19:09Speaker 0: the
- 19:16Speaker 1: noise.