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NFL Gambling Recap | Week 14 · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the Torture Podcast, presented by BET
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  Speaker 1: Today is our NFL Week fourteen Sunday Recap episode. I
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  Speaker 1: am Chad Millman. I am joined in misery by my bff,
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  Speaker 1: my companion Mike and Padre, and my co host Professional
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  Speaker 1: Better Simon Hunter. Simon. We are trying to watch the
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  Speaker 1: end of this Chiefs Bills game. We have the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: minus one head. Oh so I am in.
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  Speaker 2: Are we doing, Chad.
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  Speaker 1: Question for you, Simon, win or lose right now? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Cadarius Tony is Caadarius Tony on the roster next week
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  Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't remember last year, he was pretty
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  Speaker 2: important for them in the Super Bowl. But I don't know, Chad,
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  Speaker 2: it's so painful. I'm just still I'm still to now
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  Speaker 2: that we've actually lost this bet yet.
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  Speaker 1: restrictions apply. All right. We had Carolina plus six. We
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  Speaker 1: had the Chicago Bears plus three and a half. We
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  Speaker 1: had the La Rams plus seven and a half. We
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  Speaker 1: had Kansas City minus one and a half. Because we
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  Speaker 1: felt so good if Kansas City hit the ball at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the game and they were down. We
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  Speaker 1: were going to win that bet. Tonight we have Dallas
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  Speaker 1: minus three and a half against the Eagles in Sunday
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  Speaker 1: Night football. Simon Games, we passed on biggest debate we
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  Speaker 1: had today, Jets and the Rams. You love the Jets
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  Speaker 1: you have all week. Credit to you. You convinced me
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  Speaker 1: to bet it, but we did not put it in
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  Speaker 1: the contest. I love the Rams all week. We started
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  Speaker 1: feeling anxious about this one kickoff because the line hadn't
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  Speaker 1: really moved in our direction and the Jets had. I said,
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  Speaker 1: you're my guy, Simon, if you if you feel strongly,
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  Speaker 1: we can trade it out. We were definitely worried. In
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  Speaker 1: bad weather today the Jets would not score at all,
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  Speaker 1: so we ultimately kept the Rams. Turns out it didn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're terrible right now. We're in a bad
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  Speaker 2: run of switching out winners for other winners and we're
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  Speaker 2: not switching out for the losers. So yeah, I joke
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  Speaker 2: all the time how hard these contests are. And this
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  Speaker 2: is why it is. Where it's like you have games
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  Speaker 2: you like, all these different games, you have to get
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  Speaker 2: it down to the five and yeah, the the Jets one.
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  Speaker 2: I just like I said to you this morning, it's
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  Speaker 2: just a game we always take where when everyone's giving
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  Speaker 2: up on a team, that's usually when we like to
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  Speaker 2: step in, especially when they're at home. But yeah, that uh,
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  Speaker 2: that Chiefs one's gonna stink for a little while, you know.
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  Speaker 2: That's a game. Like I said you before we went
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  Speaker 2: on air, it's just a game usual we don't take.
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  Speaker 2: And the bounces did not go away at all in
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  Speaker 2: that game Jets Texans.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, the total was thirty three and a half.
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  Speaker 1: I bet the under. Did you bet the under two
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  Speaker 1: or no? Yeah, you bet the under. I bet the under.
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  Speaker 2: It is probably my biggest bet of the week.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, the Jets under. Yeah, game was nothing. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: at halftime, nothing nothing. Yeah, it went over the total. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the first time AOH game has gone over. The total
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  Speaker 1: in the wild Card era, final score was thirty to six.
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  Speaker 1: Previous sixty two games with zero zero halftime score all
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  Speaker 1: went under, including today's Vikings Raiders game, which ended three
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  Speaker 1: to nothing. Both teams just forgot they were playing an
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  Speaker 1: NFL game and that you're supposed to try to win
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  Speaker 1: these games in the second half, and the Jet that's
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  Speaker 1: kept throwing the ball. The Texans didn't know what the
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  Speaker 1: hell they were doing. CJ. Strad was out. It was excruciating.
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  Speaker 1: Also with cruciating Carolina at New Orleans. We loved Carolina
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  Speaker 1: in this spot. I want to get your take on
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  Speaker 1: it in the end, you know, as our good buddy
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  Speaker 1: Scoot would say, the right side is the winning side.
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  Speaker 1: But Carolina dominated this game. But it played like a
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  Speaker 1: team that is now one and twelve and headed for
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  Speaker 1: the number one overall pick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's perfect way to summon up. They're just
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  Speaker 2: they're terrible in so many ways, but all starts with
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Young. I think at one point in the first
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  Speaker 2: half he was like four for thirteen for U.
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  Speaker 1: One for eight. He started the game one for eight.
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  Speaker 1: He was like he had twenty two rushing yards and
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  Speaker 1: almost no passing yards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he had a chance to redeem himself
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  Speaker 2: right the end of half. He had a guy streaking
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  Speaker 2: wide open in the end zone and like nowhere near him.
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  Speaker 2: Just terrible throw.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, happy feet. He had happy feet and like through
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  Speaker 1: it early felt the pressure, saw ghost whatever. It was terrible,
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  Speaker 1: all of it.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's the classic, he's regressed, he's he was better
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  Speaker 2: in college than he is right now in the pros.
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  Speaker 2: And that's just that's scary if you're a fan of
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  Speaker 2: that team, because that's mental regression, like you're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: like he's not setting his base before he throws in. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that that one stinks. Like you said, I felt good, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: even even when they missed field goals and stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, you know what, they're still keeping this close.
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  Speaker 2: It was seven to three, it's right there. And then
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  Speaker 2: I think it was fourteen to three. We get a
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  Speaker 2: huge run from Miles Sanders. I thought this really summed
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  Speaker 2: up this team. They get a huge run down to
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  Speaker 2: the one of the two. The first play I believe
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  Speaker 2: they like lose a couple of yards whatever, it was
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  Speaker 2: maybe a rush. The next play he gets sacked Bryce
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  Speaker 2: Young who loses like ten yards. And then the third
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  Speaker 2: play he just throws it at the feet of the receiver.
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  Speaker 2: There's no play and they kick a field goal. And
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  Speaker 2: that just feels like that sums them up as a team,
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  Speaker 2: where you know, you get it down there and you
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  Speaker 2: just you get three out of it from the one
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  Speaker 2: and really, you know, that's what's tough about betting these
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  Speaker 2: bad teams. It's like you said, they played well statistically,
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  Speaker 2: if you look on paper, they just I mean achilles heels.
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  Speaker 2: If you get if these teams get these seven points
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  Speaker 2: up for free. They got a block punt again, r
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  Speaker 2: on the wrong side of a block punt this week,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, they just can never recover from that. So tough,
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  Speaker 2: tough bet, But it's just what are we gonna do?
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  Speaker 2: Chet We like ben bad quarterbacks and they bite us
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  Speaker 2: in the asset times.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. I made a note in my notebook today
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  Speaker 1: of that exact series that you were talking about, Miles Sanders.
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  Speaker 1: Next play call a bad play call, they lose yardage,
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  Speaker 1: next play call, bad play call. Bryce Young is sacked
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden their third and goal from the
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  Speaker 1: twenty yard line, and then they end up kicking a
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  Speaker 1: field goal and misses a field goal. There were five
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  Speaker 1: straight drives for the Saints. The Saints had one offensive
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  Speaker 1: touchdown through three quarters. There were five straight drives for
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  Speaker 1: the Saints where they went hunt, punt, pick, punt, hunt,
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  Speaker 1: and the Panthers could not. And the Panthers were in
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  Speaker 1: the Saints half of the field for nearly every corresponding
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  Speaker 1: drive and could not get there. One drive, Panthers are
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  Speaker 1: in the Saints half of the field. Bryce Y the
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  Speaker 1: receiver falls as Bryce Young is throwing him the ball
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  Speaker 1: for an easy fourth down conversion. Just incredible, incredible.
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  Speaker 2: And go ahead. This is no. This is why I
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  Speaker 2: feel bad for these teams because it's not going to
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  Speaker 2: be a one or two year fix like they're just
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  Speaker 2: there's so many issues right now with this team. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be interesting what the future is for this
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  Speaker 2: Carolina team. Where you know, we talk all the time,
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  Speaker 2: you miss on these quarterbacks that really can set you
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  Speaker 2: back for four or five, sometimes ten twenty years, right,
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  Speaker 2: You just you get in these repeat modes if you
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  Speaker 2: never find a guy. I mean, the Jets are a
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  Speaker 2: great example of teams like this. So I really do
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  Speaker 2: feel bad. We've had Panther fans. I met one at
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  Speaker 2: our party and he was feeling good last week, right
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  Speaker 2: about them getting that cover but not winning, And I
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  Speaker 2: just asked him a serious view on Bryce Young and
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  Speaker 2: he's just like, I haven't seen one single thing that
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  Speaker 2: would like if you just showed someone that doesn't know
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  Speaker 2: anything about football and explained that this guy was a
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  Speaker 2: number one pick, it really does not make sense. There's
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  Speaker 2: not a single thing that he does really well, and
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  Speaker 2: you're really seen it this year where he has yet
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  Speaker 2: to have a game where he felt like he won
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  Speaker 2: them the game or got them in a position to
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  Speaker 2: win a game. It's just it feels like the one
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  Speaker 2: win they had against Houston was just their defense, right.
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  Speaker 2: I think they won by like field goals. So just
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  Speaker 2: an absolute trainer of the season for Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Seventy six first round quarterbacks of the Super Bowl era
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Young. It's current yards per attempt would be the
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  Speaker 1: second worst for a full year since Donovan McNabb nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: Company.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true at this year for Bryce Young.
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  Speaker 1: Five point two six all right, A game that we
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  Speaker 1: loved again that we loved last week when we were live.
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  Speaker 1: Bears were at plus five, we betted at plus three
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  Speaker 1: and a half. We put it in our money line
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  Speaker 1: round robin. This game, like I got a little nervous
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  Speaker 1: because I thought it was too much of a public dog.
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  Speaker 1: It turns out none of it mattered, and I got
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  Speaker 1: to take here, Simon. I got to take Even when
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  Speaker 1: the Bears were losing, they played like a real football team.
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  Speaker 1: They kept trying and then this play end of the
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  Speaker 1: third Bears going forward from the Detroit thirty eight fourth
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  Speaker 1: and thirteen tie game, the hope is the Bears get
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  Speaker 1: in offside, they draw the got the I don't know
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  Speaker 1: the defense off side, They get five yards closer to
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  Speaker 1: try a field. They were a little bit out of
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  Speaker 1: the carricker's range. Not only does Justin Fields draw the
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  Speaker 1: defense off side, he realizes he has a free play.
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  Speaker 1: He's got Dj Moore lined up in one on one coverage.
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  Speaker 1: DJ Moore runs a great route. Justin Fields hits him perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: The Bears take the lead in nineteen thirteen. Forget about
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  Speaker 1: the fact that on the ensuing point after attempt they
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  Speaker 1: get it blocked and Detroit almost runs it back for
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  Speaker 1: a score. Doesn't matter. Justin Fields had his best game
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  Speaker 1: early lead, didn't create when they were down, didn't make
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  Speaker 1: bad mistakes. Two hundred and twenty three yards passing touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: fifty six yards rushing touchdown. Go Bears. We're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the Bears in Cleveland when we talk
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  Speaker 1: about the week fifteen games go.
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  Speaker 2: I just have to know am I saying it wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Is it route? Or are you saying it right? Route?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you saying it that way, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it route?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: I guess I could say route, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, okay, because I feel like I'm losing my
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  Speaker 2: mind because it's back to back show as you've done this,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just I can't let her keep sliding or
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  Speaker 2: it's going to eat away at me.
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  Speaker 1: Let's focus on the positive, which is.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't know why you're saying it that way.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, I'm dyslexic. I'm the idiot, But I can
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  Speaker 2: say route. It's route. Love that play. That's that's what
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  Speaker 2: sucks though. It's like, that's that was the best throw
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  Speaker 2: to me of Field's career. Yes, he saw the safety
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  Speaker 2: step up and he put it right over the shoulder
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  Speaker 2: of him and the dB into a perfect in stride
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  Speaker 2: basket of DJ Moore, and it's like, it's like, that's
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  Speaker 2: what it's all about. They've worked on that route, they
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  Speaker 2: worked on that play, they make that read, and like
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  Speaker 2: you said, it was all designed for them to jump
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  Speaker 2: off sides and then get a free play. And it
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  Speaker 2: stinks if you're a Bears fan, because it's like, what
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  Speaker 2: are you guys supposed to do?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 2: It's like you have the most idea off season upcoming,
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  Speaker 2: and I know it's like, well, we're gonna beat into nauseam,
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  Speaker 2: But it's like the play of taking Marvin Harris and
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  Speaker 2: then taking an offensive lineman in the first round. It's
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  Speaker 2: I who can knock it at this point, But then
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  Speaker 2: you have something that's going to be a lot smarter.
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  Speaker 2: Say you need to reset on the rookie contract. That's
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  Speaker 2: what the smart teams do, and that's why you take Williams,
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  Speaker 2: a once in a lifetime generation of talent where it's
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  Speaker 2: just a tough spot that fields these last couple of
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  Speaker 2: weeks chat. I mean, Bears fan is gonna be pretty
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  Speaker 2: good that either he'll play out and maybe you'll get
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  Speaker 2: a first round pick from the Falcons or whoever to
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  Speaker 2: trade him, or you have your guy for the next
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  Speaker 2: couple of years, because it's like Field shows these little
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  Speaker 2: moments that it's like his athleticism and his gifts of
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  Speaker 2: throwing the ball, it's all there. It's just it hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been put together because the coaching staff has failed him.
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  Speaker 2: So what a time to be a Bears fan.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Professor English professor Hunter who criticizes me
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  Speaker 1: for route and root. It's ad nauseum, not just nauseum.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, number two, number two. Here's my take and
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  Speaker 1: me and my buddy Matt's. A lot of people remember
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  Speaker 1: my buddy Matt because I've mentioned him on the podcast before.
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  Speaker 1: Forty five minute conversation this morning after the Power Hour
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  Speaker 1: ended and before the Bears game started about the Bears
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  Speaker 1: should trade the number one pick, get a haul of picks,
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  Speaker 1: get an all pro left tackle, stick with Justin Fields.
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  Speaker 1: That that was our latest and then draft Marvin Harrison.
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  Speaker 1: That was our latest idea. Because I was all in
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  Speaker 1: this morning on reasons you.
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  Speaker 2: Can't do it. That's my whole point. Though. It's like
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  Speaker 2: the guy's never played a full season for you, So
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  Speaker 2: it's just I want to be in the moment with
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  Speaker 2: you guys and say that too, But it's like you
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  Speaker 2: can't do it, which sucks. It just sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's too late because Matt and I have decided
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. Really, it's just too late. The
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  Speaker 1: fans have spoken, and right now the fans they do
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  Speaker 1: as well with the Bears draft picks and roster building.
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  Speaker 1: Is anybody in the history of the Chicago Bears all right,
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  Speaker 1: I know this because I'm looking at a babblehead of
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  Speaker 1: said Luckman, who continues to be the best quarterback the
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  Speaker 1: Bears have ever ever had, and he stopped playing in
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen forties. Los Angeles, by the way, Jared Goff
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  Speaker 1: continues to be a fade outside and in cold weather.
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  Speaker 2: How bad he's been those last couple of weeks. It's crazy, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: turned back into a pumpkin.
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  Speaker 1: So look, that's another game I'm going to want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about when we get to the other side and
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  Speaker 1: we talk about the week fifteen games. A very interesting
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  Speaker 1: game for them in the Los Angeles Rams plus seven
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  Speaker 1: and a half at Baltimore. Look, it's one of those
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  Speaker 1: games where I actually never felt anxious we were going
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  Speaker 1: to lose it. Matthew Stafford was just throwing teardrops from
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  Speaker 1: the very first series. He was so good. He had
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  Speaker 1: this just perfect touchdown pass to Cooper Cup in the
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  Speaker 1: first step for their first touchdown pass. He'd lofted it
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  Speaker 1: into the back pieline of the end zone or as
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  Speaker 1: some might say, backpill on and it was like before
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  Speaker 1: Cooper Cup was out of his break, the ball was
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  Speaker 1: in the air and he just turned and it was
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  Speaker 1: dropping into his hands and he did that all game.
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  Speaker 1: I was never nervous about this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, once it started, I wasn't. But definitely when we
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  Speaker 2: talked before, because I told you, like, it was interesting
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  Speaker 2: to see his stats and how he's played in bad weather,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, after people forget he spent his whole
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  Speaker 2: career in Detroit, then La, it's both indoor stadiums, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're exactly right. Like that offense when Pooka's playing,
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  Speaker 2: Williams is playing at the running back position and he's
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  Speaker 2: got his guy Cooper Cup fully healthy, there's nothing like it. Right,
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  Speaker 2: Like even that touchdown to Cooper Cup, he just threw
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  Speaker 2: it to a spot and it was just it's like magic,
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  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup. It just goes right to that spot and
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  Speaker 2: it's just the chemistry they have is so incredible. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that that was a great bet. And you know, what
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  Speaker 2: can you say about the Ravens Ltmar, Like I got
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  Speaker 2: understand all the hype with people and then them saying
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  Speaker 2: that they gotta be a leader right on the AFC
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  Speaker 2: Lamar playing at a high level I think was all
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  Speaker 2: perfectly summed up at that final play of the game
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  Speaker 2: where he gets the touchdown and the two pointer, and
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  Speaker 2: the two pointer he hit a guy hanging around his
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  Speaker 2: waist and he still flicked it off his wrist right
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  Speaker 2: to the corner at his eight flowers. And it's like, man,
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  Speaker 2: Lamar is so special. It is insane that the Jets
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  Speaker 2: went after Rogers and like just didn't put the money
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: up and just go get Lamar, Like all these teams
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: gonna have Lamar. That was such a weird thing this
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: offseason with Lamar. And yeah, it's like poetic justice if
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: they're the best team in the AFC right now where
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: they kind of are right like even when their their
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: defense doesn't show up their offenses. So yeah, they're a team.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I just I still don't know if I'm gonna trust
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: them in the playoffs. But I did not think they're
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: gonna win that game, Like it just felt like it
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: was all going the Rams way. And yeah, that drive,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: that touchdown, the two point conversion. Why Lamar is so
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: incredibly clutch. This is a complete team right now, that
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: that Ravens team.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I love watching Rokwan Smith fly to the ball, which
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: he did often in the game today, if only to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: be reminded that the bear is traded away. One of
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the guys who might be one of the best middle
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: linebackers in football. Here's the one thing, and one of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the reasons why you know, you and I were talking
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: this morning, you brought up the stats about Stafford in
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: cold weather, and the reason why I didn't sort of
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: bite on that one of the main reasons other than
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I just felt like it's too big of a number,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and Stafford at the end of the game, which you
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: had said during the show earlier in the week, Sean
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: McVay is not going to take his foot off the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: gas pedal. So as a big number, I felt like
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you'd have a chance to cover the back door. Lamar
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Jackson just isn't good as a favorite of more than
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: three points, Like he's five and sixteen against spread when
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: favored by more than three. That is the worst mark
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's just not his thing. He's twelve
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to nineteen is a favorite overall. So that is a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: little bit of an achilles heel. And I don't know
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: if it's tied to game planning, if it's tied to
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: the ravens underestimate people. You know, Harbaugh has a little
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: bit of that similar approach and demeanor as Mike Tomlin.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It's why they're the five coaches that are so profitable,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: especially as underdog. So that is something to think about
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: when we get to the playoffs where Lamar, even as
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a number one seed, even as a favorite, has underperformed.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent, and people they'll hear I'm going to
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: recite in these stats about him when it comes to playoffs.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: He's just in his career, he struggled in the playoffs.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So Buffalo Kansas City, we had Kansas City minus one
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and a half. The first note I made in the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: script before the game even started, I feel like we
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: were against the world on this one. It easily could
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: have been the fox Hole instead of the Cowboys. It
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: moved from three to two and a half to one
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and a half to one. I never felt like it
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: was in doubt until after the Kadarius Tony penalty.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I had I felt in doubt where
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: there was just little things happening in the game that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: was just like, these aren't things that usually happened that
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: bounced the Chiefs way like the Bills were definitely getting
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the breaks in the game, which between two teams are
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: so evenly matched, especially with all the injuries that both
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: teams have on both sides. I mean, I think was
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: a hide that went out for the Bills like three
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: times in the game, Like it's just the Bills defense man,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: it's just held together by bubblegum. And you know, holding
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs offense. Another week they put up less than
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: twenty points. It's it's crazy. I mean, it really is that.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Like this team struggles because, like you said, they had
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: so many opportunities in this game, like they really did
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: feel like it was going to kind of work out
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: for them at some point. But yeah, the weird whatever
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that play was, it was thirty nine, who knows if
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: it was a catcher, wasn't a catch?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: About the one to uh Latavious Murray where he was
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: bobbling it, they called it a catch, he fumbled it
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: went out of bounds. I mean, look that that play
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: ended up being a field goal right for the Bills.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: That play wasn't if that it ended up not being
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: impactful because that play they ended up getting multiple holding
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: penalties and then a sack and then the Chiefs got
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the ball back. But the Chiefs just went three and out,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and like that's the difference right now is Mahomes in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the second half of the fourth quarter in a few games,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: where we have always thought him to be sort of
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: indestructible and unbeatable, is now a guy who has been
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: destructible and has been beatable. And we're seeing a lot
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of it is because of the receiver play right where
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: she Rice. Everyone keeps trying to make him the guy
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and yet they're driving. He makes a nice catch and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: then umbles the ball the fifty yard line when they
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: have a chance to take the lead in the game.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: So not breaking away, but that Tony, that Tony play
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: is just icing on the cake where it's like so egregious,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: it's so irrelevant to the play. How do you not
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: line upright? But yeah, it's just I can't believe it. Man,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Like these every week, these bad beats, we keep being
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: on the wrong side of it. It's brutal, but this
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: is this is life. You're betting long time and you
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: bet multiple games a week. It's like you're gonna have
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: these bounces go against your way, so it sucks to
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: go through. But like again, as bad as that was,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: there's nothing worse, nothing worse than that Jets over runder,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Like that one that one's gonna halt me for a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: little while. But this game, I'll get over it. It's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: just it just sucks where it's like we play this spot,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: we know it's a long term winner. It just didn't
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: get there. And you know, I know a couple of
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: people that they keep back in Mahomes and they're just
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: getting destroydering out a lot of professionals. Like it's just
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I keep saying, we got to adjust. This isn't the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: same old team, but it's hard where it's like they
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: were down fourteen today, tren I still wasn't that worried.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: And that's what's tough this team where it's like the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Mahomes factor of it. It's like, I know we need
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: to adjust, but at the same time, they're always in it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Like it's just that there's just such a good team.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: They're so well coached. So it's a tough one. I'm
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: still not going to overreact to this loss for the Chiefs.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Another game that we're going to have to talk about
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in the week fifteen lines because it is a massive,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: massive number. All right, just an Fyi Evan is reporting
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: from the Action Network News desk. Justin Herbert fractured right
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: index Finger. Also in the postgame report, Patrick Mahomes is
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: apparently very upset because he thought Kadarius Tony was on side.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: You know what, Patrick, we're with your brother. We all
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: believe he was on sides. As a reminder to catch
• 24:06
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• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to recap Fox Old Dallas minus three and a half.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: We got that coming up tonight, Big Balls Carolina plus
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: four and a half. Turns out it was just a
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: kick in the dick folks exec decision Chicago plus three
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and a half? Who bears Simon says, Kansas City minus
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: two and a half? Another, Ah, that is fucking brutal.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: All right, survivor you have green Bay? Correct?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but sad news the contest everyone knows. I won't
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: say the name of it, but basically, on Thanksgiving I
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: had to use Green Bay like we had no choice,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: and we got really lucky. And this week we decided
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: to go with Pittsburgh and we got knocked out. So
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I will not be winning nine million dollars. I'm still
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: in another contest. That's tax free. But unfortunately it's a
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: lot of professionals and there's like one hundred people left somehow,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: and I hate it. I absolutely hate it. So the
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: goal now is to survive that one. I'll keep it
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: going if green Bay does it, but if green Bay loses,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: it's over. I got nothing left people, I got somehow.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I got one contest left here in fourteen fucking Pittsburgh
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Steelers man and that whatever that was that snappers head
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: looking up again, these fucking refs, Chad. I'm so mad
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: about because like that, I could taste the nine million,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Like I think there's twenty people left in that contest,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and it's like God, that would have been amazing to
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: go there and win that money. So yeah, that's tough,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: but hopefully green Bay comes through so we can keep
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: doing our survivor picks for the people.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Something after taxes like four and a half mil. And
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: these days, these days, you can't even you can't even
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: buy a nice house for four and a half million dollars.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You know it's four and a half million. Trust me,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: it doesn't go as far as as it used to. Okay,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, Uh Carolina, Ash Chicago Rams, Jets, Giants.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Those were our money line round robin. So we got
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the Bears and we got the Rams, and we got
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the Bears and the Jets, and we got a shot
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: with the Giants on Monday Night. Although I'm hoping it
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't work out for us, because I want you to
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: stay alive.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: In your kind, to be over, to be honest with
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the survivor is killing me. The stressing about it. It's
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: such a waste of energy.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I wanted to keep going because I like, I like
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the idea of you being in a tax freak Sunday
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Night football pick. Look, we're on the Cowboys that we've
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: been on it all week. Uh Monday Night Football, Uh
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Giants plus six and a half. I feel like I
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I pushed you into that one. So you can tell
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: me if you're if you want to renounce your participation
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: in that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Roger, I liked it with you. I liked it Sunday Night.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: My fear is just just how well Jordan Love is playing.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Where it's like, you know, we might be just stepping
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: in front of it. You know these teams sometimes they
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: go on these steam rolls. It's just like Detroit was
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: early in the year. Remember, we kept trying to jump
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: in front of Detroit because we knew Detroit wasn't as
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: good as they were playing, and we just kept getting caught.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And that's the same thing here with green Bay. It's like,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: we know Green Bay isn't a top three team the NFC,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: but they're being prices one right now just because they've
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: been playing so well. So yeah, if people want to
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: know where the professionals are at, they love the six
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and a half six on the Giants, But yeah, I'm
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: just I'm just gonna ride to survive your I have
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: a little bit on the Giants, but yeah, I just
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Chad knows. I just need green Bay to win.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Packers are without Christian wants to on offense, koair Walker,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Jaire Alexander on defense. Simon, can you also Aaron Jones
• 28:08
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I picked out some early week fifteen spots. Look the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Steelers on the road at Indy plus three Classic Raw
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Ross spot. The key factor here TJ Watt in the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: concussion protocol. So if he's not playing, we're not We're
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: not betting. If he is, we probably got to make
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a decision.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Is there going to be Mitch Trubisky.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Though it's going to be Mitch Trubisky, you don't.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Want to experience back in Mitch as someone that that
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: had needed needed the Steelers for their life. On Thursday.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: You don't want to ride to Mitch train again. Chad
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: stay away, listen.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're saying. I thought of that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: when I wrote this down in our notes. But we're
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: talking about a not very good Indie team. I think
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: they were exposed today. They should not be favorites.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I think they've been very lucky.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: They've been very lucky. I thought Raybound did a great job.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: You know, he had the Bengals this week, and he
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: did a great job of explaining what Indy had done
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: in their four games and who they had beaten in
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: their in their four game winning streak, and it was
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: incredibly lucky. And today they saw the truth. And they
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: are not a very good football team when Gardner Munshi
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: was their quarterback, especially against the defense that can cause
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: them a little bit of trouble, which the Bengals were
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: able to do to day with Trey Hendrickson. So if
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: t J wats playing, I'm less uncomfortable.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. Tennessee plus three and a half
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: at home versus Houston.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: It's minus one and a half.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Brother, Well, I was going to say, I was just
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: going to check the lines right now. I had a
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: feeling this would move based on the rout. Yeah, missed it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Missed it, it's still to take it, though we might
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: begin Davis Mills.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: It's true, right, all right?
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I mean we saw how different this team's whole identity
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: change from one quarterback to the next. The Davis Mills
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: is bad even when he came in. I know the
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Jets defense obviously is incredible, but I don't hate it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I don't hate the idea of Chad. So I'd grabbed
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the one and a half just in case this number
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: keeps going up. I could see it easily get up
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: to minus three if CJ does miss time.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the again? If you have
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: any games that you love, we'll get to it. But
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: these are the games that I pinpointed. Lion's currently minus
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: four against the Broncos at home feels like a get
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: right spot.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I know, but what should we do here? Like we
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: just that's the thing. They're broken, right, That's what sucks.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: It's like I agree with people that it feels like
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Denver got very lucky today and they keep getting this
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: turnover luck, which has been insane this run they've had.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: But they're going up against a team that wants to
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: turn the ball over right now, and golf and their
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: coach Campbell is kind of losing his mind here on
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: these fourth downs. He's like the stubborn gambler that's like, no,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep hitting on sixteen and fifteen, like this
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: is what I do. I know it's gonna win. It's like, no, dude,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: you keep losing like you're winning early on because you're
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: getting lucky. Now it's just getting irrational, Like I think
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: they're on their own thirty five or forty against the Bears.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: They went for it. And that's what I love too
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: about the Bears. They started doing fuck you right back.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: They're like fourth and thirteen, we'll go for it, like
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: screw you, guys. If this is the kind of game
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: you want, we'll play this game. And it works. So yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I'm right there with you, like my gut instincts like Detroit,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: like this is everyone in the public's going to be
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: on Denver. But now I'll probably throw a it on Denver.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: At this plus four and a half, I just this
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: number has to come down, right. I don't know, maybe
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I'm missing it, but this film.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I think it will come Well. Look it was at
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: four and a half before the end of the Denver game.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: And now it's at.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Four, Okay, and then that makes sense.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the notes that I wrote were exactly what you
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: just said. Is Detroit in trouble, the Broncos continuing to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: get lucky and doing just enough of the right things
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: in the spots, do you know what I mean?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Also, they keep playing like justin Herbert going out with
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: a fractured index finger and they're playing easton stick there.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I think they're zero for three before that on fourth
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: downs the Chargers like it's just it just keeps breaking
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: ever his way, which again, like you said, it's it's
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: partially good coaching, but they're getting a lot of luck.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Cleve Whend minus three at home against the Bears.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Joe je Flaku battered FLACKU, Look, this line was a
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: two and a half.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I know that the books were begging us to take
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the Browns and the Betters did. It's a three, really
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: good run defense, improving pass rush in the Bears, a stay,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a good rush offense, a quarterback who found his rhythm
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: today against a not very good secondary.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I mean it probably didn't mean much
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: to a lot of the fans, but I again, I
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: had more, way, more money on Cleveland, but I tried
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: to hit this middle. The Jaguars got to plus three
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and a half for like two three days and it
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: lined up perfectly, And for some reason, Duke Peterson went
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: for two and I did not get the middle. Just again,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: these coaches do the most random shit, like why would
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: you not want to get to three? Like you're you're, you're.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: If you hit the field goal, you get to go
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: to overtime against Joe Flacco, who I think at that
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: point already had two turnovers. Yeah. Very A lot of
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: his coaching is very bizarre. This line is already up
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: to the minus three for Cleveland.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Uh. You know. First first reaction is what Chad just said,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I like back in Cleveland at home. I like back
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: in this defense at home. That's what I did today.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Like I had plenty of people reach out for like
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: are you scared that it's Lawrence now playing against Joe Flack?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: When I said, well, it feels like the rushing I'm back.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I thought the defense would play better. You know, the
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: defense didn't play that great overall. I guess thet Jaguars right,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: but still they made big stops and key spots and
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: you know, Joe Flack as much as I want to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: beat him up, Like, you know, he made some big
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: throws in that game. So yeah. The thing is stuff
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: about this line is I know, if it gets to
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: four or three and a half, I kind of want
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: to take the Bears, but if three, I guess I
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: still lean towards taking the Browns.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, to me, it's a wait, like I'm just like,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I think the money is going to keep coming on
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Cleveland and because of that defense, and I'm just going
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: to take the Bears when I can get the hook
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: is really.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Really, I feel like everyone's gonna point on justin. Justin
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: feel is the way sexier bet than back in Joe
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Flack was a favorite. I promise you that much.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: By the way, Titans are now at minus two thanks.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Two more games, two more games, two quick games, and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: then I want to make.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Sure you guys to play in the chat. If you
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: see anything about CJ, you can definitely throw in the chat.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's not going to play or not,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: but that that's an indicator that the pros think he's
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: not going to play.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Two more games that I want to discuss the Cardinals. No,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: not the Cardinals. The Commanders plus six and a half
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: against the Rams. That felt a little juicy, like the
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Rams might be overvalued there, but we just got uh
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: we just took debate on the Commander's plus six a
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: week ago at home against the Dolphins. So to pass,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I know you're gonna tell me you want to take
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, by the way, Oh my god, Patriots Chiefs
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: was plus ten before the end of the Bills Chiefs game.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Now plus seven and a half to pass for me? No,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I mean you can still get plus nine and a
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: half on bet three six five if you so help choose. Yeah,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: way too many points for a chief You're right, so
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: i'd grab that. But like you, I just said, we're
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: not going to get this contest, Like this is just
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: if I'm lucky, I'll be able to get a couple
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: of thousand down here at the nine and a half.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: But this is this is kind of a dead number.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be what Chad you said, this will drop
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: to seven seven and a half. Still don't hate it
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: at that number, but yeah, it's just just probably a
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: safer bet for me just to tick the under in
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: this game. Like both defenses are really good. That feels
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: like the safer play here cold December game of Fox Bro.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I don't mind taking the under in that spot either.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Who is shocked you didn't bring up this Bucks green
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Bay game Bucks plus three and a half in green
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Bay before green Bay plays? You know, to me, I'll
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: grab the three and a half just in case what
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: chat talked about, like if this if the pros are
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: right and this is a fallout spot for green Bay
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: and they lose, this game will definitely drop down. I mean,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: these the bucks in Green Bay are not that far off.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I know that sounds crazy to everyone, but I'm telling you,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: if I fight this in the model, I know this
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: is going to come back two and a half two
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: for the number. So the number the values definitely right
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: now is on the Buccaneers. We said it though, what
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: the the Packers are just in right now? It's just
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: if they beat the Giants, I'm gonna look like a
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: fool because it's number pile'll go up the four to
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: four and a half. But I'm gonna grab it just
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: in case they finally have a closed game against the Giants.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: That was definitely when I jumped out. You know, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: can't I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Then don't.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: No, we got to talk about the Bills. They're minus
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: two against the Cowboys.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Like we're supposed to take that too, brother, I know,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: We got to decide right now. The Bills offense has
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: been playing better and better, right They played really well
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: against the Eagles. The defense gave it up. They played
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: better against the Chiefs. The defense almost gave it up,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: by the way. So like, if we want to go
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: into where we're betting on Josh Allen, who will will
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: definitely throw a pick at the wrong time to give
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the other team to get it to to give you
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a team a chance to stay in it and that
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: defense to be winning at the end of the game,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Sean McDermott to make bad play calling decisions about clock management,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and then for that defense to give it up so
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the other team can tie the game. Then we can
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: bet on the Bills if we are willing to accept
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: that scenario.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: No, I'm right there with you. It's gonna suck, but
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: it's just I know that's who the pros are going
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: to back, regardless of what the Cowboys do here. You know,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: obviously we hope the Cowboys win, but even if they do,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: when I just I can't see this number dropping. It
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: just it just feels like the public will be on
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the pros will be on the bills.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: So just interesting that it's minus two, because that's such
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: attempting number for a number for people back the bill.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: It's a bait number. That is a fat, juicy worm
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of a number, and the books are looking at us
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: like we are little brain fish.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I know, we got to get out of here real quick. Though.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: What do you think of that? Ravens minus three again?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: The Jaguar Sunday night.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting. I'm anxious about Lamar
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: as a favorite.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I'm grabbing it. Yeah, I just I have to just
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the Trevor Lawrence. He had no mobility and that really
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: hampered him. And I feel like he got a little
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: lucky against that Cleveland's defense and the Ravens defense. That's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: such a bounce back spot for them after going to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: lit up by Stafford. You know that, you know, I
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: got it. I got it back at the three because
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: how does this not go up?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I just I'm seeing it well. By the way, I'm
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: seeing it at three and a half almost everywhere.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: So it's still three. I bet three sixty five our friends.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Chad's right, I'll probably get off this call
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and I'll be gone. But that's just when it jumps
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: out to grab right now.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna think about the Steelers as
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: dogs if they have t J. Watt, Tennessee has already
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: moved beyond a place that makes us comfortable. Baltimore minus three.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go grab as soon as we get off
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: this show. Slim pickens for early best this week. But
• 41:08
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• 41:11
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• 41:15
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• 41:19
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• 41:23
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