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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes Tomorrow morning for Thursday, July twenty fifth. I'm your
- 0:03host, Tom Moore. The Akron game in thirty seven days, the game
- 0:06against Michigan in one hundred and twenty eight days. Two days of Big ten
- 0:10media days now in the books, which would normally mean we would be in
- 0:13the car and headed back to Bumbus. But welcome to the brave new world
- 0:16of twenty twenty four Big Ten Football. There are three days of this event
- 0:19now, so we were only two thirds of the way through. But boy,
- 0:22it was another very very interesting day. Lots of different stuff to talk
- 0:27about. Some of my favorite people to listen to talk about football. You
- 0:30ask questions, got Matt Ruhle, James Franklin, got the new College Football
- 0:35Playoff executive director, got a chance to talk to him some really really interesting
- 0:38stuff today. I guess we were kind of running a bunch of different directions.
- 0:43There was a lot of stuff happening, So there was a bunch of
- 0:46people you talked to that I really didn't get a chance to talk to.
- 0:48So let's start with Matt Ruhle. You said that he had some interesting stuff
- 0:52to talk about in terms of roster management, coach management, all that kind
- 0:56of stuff. Yeah, the the ability to have more coaches on the field.
- 1:02Now, a lot of the coaches here we're talking being asked about all
- 1:06of the changes, you know, whether it's scholarship limits, the coaching changes.
- 1:10But this one is everybody that you can have unlimited coaches basically. But
- 1:15the thing is, you don't want unlimited coaches because it's the whole too many
- 1:19cooks in the kitchen type of things. So their plan right now is to
- 1:22have two coaches for every position, So you know, two defensive line coach,
- 1:26two coaches, two receivers coaches. And he explained it in a way
- 1:30where they've got on the defensive line, they've got a fit yar guy who
- 1:36should be taking you know, like graduate level courses, and they're bringing in
- 1:38a freshman who is still learning how to play American football. That he said,
- 1:42So it's like to teach these two guys the same thing isn't necessarily fair
- 1:47to either one of them. It reminds me of like the the one room
- 1:51schoolhouse thing, you know, where you've got high school kids and the first
- 1:53graders type of thing. And so they hope to split that up. And
- 1:57we see that at various positions forever, like a Texas Tech would have outside
- 2:01receivers inside receivers under Mike Leach, some coaches have. Some teams have defensive
- 2:07end coach and some have defensive tackle coach together. I was looking to do
- 2:12that for everybody, just to help split up the youth and the veterans in
- 2:16one way. And that's in case you're wondering what changed about coaches. The
- 2:22NCAA ended the countable coaches role. That ended, I think late June they
- 2:27signed off on that finally. Where you used to have the ten countable assistants
- 2:30and those are the only ones who are allowed to do on field instruction and
- 2:35you know, certain stuff like when there's a football on the field. There
- 2:37were just restrictions on that. That's all gone now, so functionally you have
- 2:40an unlimited number of coaches if you want it. I don't think anyone's going
- 2:45to have two hundred and seventy five on field coaches. That will be probably
- 2:47some overkill, but I think people just sort of still figuring out where they
- 2:51want to fall on that spectrum between ten and two hundred and seventy five.
- 2:54One of my other favorite coaches to talk to every year is James Franklin,
- 2:58and James Franklin is just He's very honest, He's very open. He's got
- 3:01a pretty good sense of humor. I know, I know that people have
- 3:05a view of him based on his you know his you know, game management
- 3:08to people have a view based on him on some of his He was asked
- 3:13about the you know, good team, great team, elite team and the
- 3:17reporter said, you know, you had that rant a couple of years ago,
- 3:21and he's like, I would characterize it as a speech and not a
- 3:23rant, which is just kind of like dryly funny. But he had a
- 3:28couple of different interestings to say. I was only over there to get over
- 3:30there for like five ten minutes and had two different things, very distinct things
- 3:35that I posted clips of on Twitter because it was like, well this is
- 3:37this is really interesting. One was about the white out and would they do
- 3:43a white out for the college football playoff game they had home game. They
- 3:46had an interesting answer on that. He also had a really really really interesting
- 3:49answer on the headsets and you know, the helmet radios, and you know,
- 3:53he went into sort of well, you know, this was designed to
- 3:55solve the problem the science dealing, but then said like, well, it
- 4:00might not actually completely do that. Yeah, it solves it in one aspect
- 4:03where you the coaches don't have to sign anything in necessarily, but the sign
- 4:10still has to get from the quarterback to the receivers if you're not huddling,
- 4:14and so there's still gonna be signaling. There would still be hand signals if
- 4:16you're you're doing a no huddle where sure the quarterback gets it into his helmet,
- 4:21but then he's got to relay it to so many twenty yards away.
- 4:25So how are you going to do that. You're not gonna yell it,
- 4:27You're gonna do the hand signals there. So he said, it doesn't really
- 4:30eliminate that you could do some huddling. I think Ryan Days talked about the
- 4:33expectations there will be some huddling. Kirk Parents has talked about that. Surprisingly.
- 4:39I know you're shocked by that. I think of them as such a
- 4:41no huddle, up tempo team. That's so strange. But he did say
- 4:44that he thinks they could have a pretty good offense this year. But you
- 4:46do the huddling aspect of it if you want, but there's still gonna be
- 4:50some up tempo because it's such an it's still an advantage for the offense to
- 4:57go up tempo. So when you do, you're gonna have hand signals there,
- 5:00and of course you're always going to have hand signals defensively from secondary on
- 5:04up. So it's it's a nice thought, and it's one way to eliminate
- 5:10some of it, you know, but it's it's if you're trying to eliminate
- 5:13it completely, you're not going to do that. No, and you know
- 5:15you're never going to solve everything. It may make it better, and you
- 5:20know, you may have teams going You used to have teams going up tempo
- 5:25to throw the defense off. Now you might be going, yeah, to
- 5:29throw the defense change up. It's not think. One other thing from James
- 5:32Franklin. He saw a reporter in the crowd where the Buckey's visor and he
- 5:40mentioned the visor and the guy was like, I can get you on and
- 5:43Franklin was like, yeah, I don't think that would go over well with
- 5:45the wuah Wan the sheets people in Pennsylvania. So he declined, you forget,
- 5:49sir, that I live in the convenience store state. That's what it
- 5:51says right on the license plate Yeah, he is. He's always an entertaining
- 5:56guy to talk to. Yeah, he was talking about the fact that it's
- 6:00the helmet stripe game for the Ohio State game, not the whiteout game this
- 6:04year. You know, we have been sort of reading tea leaves on a
- 6:08lot of this stuff and been telling you for a month or two now.
- 6:12We're pretty sure the Penn State game is going to be a day game.
- 6:14We're pretty sure the Oregon game is going to be a primetime game. It
- 6:17feels like no one is willing to say that officially yet, but I feel
- 6:20like everyone on we talked to here is sort of under the same impression.
- 6:25I talked to James Krepia, who cut from The Oregonian, who covers the
- 6:28Oregon That interview was already posted on our board, the Huddle burd Postjffruby Steakhouse
- 6:32atucke Huddle dot com did three season preview episodes, one with Iowa, one
- 6:36with Oregon, one with Michigan. Talking to writers who cover those teams,
- 6:41really really interesting stuff. You can find that all for our members at bucke
- 6:45hill dot com. But when I was talking to James Prepia, who covers
- 6:49Oregon, he said, you know, he everyone has basically all but told
- 6:54him it is going to be a primetime game. They're doing a blackout in
- 6:58the crowd they're doing they're wearing their new black jerseys. So's he said,
- 7:02like, they're probably not going to do that if they think that's a new
- 7:05and local kick. So that's a pretty good indication on that, because I
- 7:10know that's one of those things that people ask us about all the time.
- 7:12So something else people ask us about all the time, the College Football Playoff.
- 7:15We have been doing a bunch of shows on that because it's so new
- 7:17and so different and sort of figuring out like what that might look like.
- 7:20But we always had these questions about, Okay, well, you know,
- 7:26is Ohio State guaranteed if they win the Big Ten guaranteed to be the team
- 7:30that gets you know, the two seed or the one seed or whatever that
- 7:33gets assigned to the Rose Bowl, Or could that change, could that change
- 7:35based on geography or whatever. Got a chance I pulled the Rich Clark,
- 7:40the College Football Playoff executive director, off the side for a few minutes after
- 7:44he spoke this morning, you got a chance to ask him a couple of
- 7:46those questions. The conference tie ins with the bowls, those contracts are still
- 7:51in effect. So the Big ten champion is going to be one of the
- 7:56top four seeds, and the Big Ten champion is going to go to the
- 7:58Rose Bowl. So if Ohio State wins a Big Ten championship here in Indianapolis
- 8:01in December, they will move on to the quarterfinal round and they will play
- 8:03in the Rose Bowl. Basically, period, full stop. What's interesting there
- 8:09is George is the SEC champion if we're you know, whoever the SEC champion
- 8:13is. But if George is the SEC champion, I'm sure Georgia would rather
- 8:16play in the Peach Bowl. But the SEC champion is contractually tied to the
- 8:20Sugar Bowl. So I asked him and he said, well, I guess
- 8:24in that scenario they would go to the Sugar Bowl. Now Big twelve champion,
- 8:28I believe, is also contractually tied to the Sugar Bowl, So maybe
- 8:30they could kind of do a little bit of a work around there. That
- 8:33was certainly one thing that was interesting. The other thing that I thought was
- 8:35interesting talking to him was when you know, we have gone through these scenarios
- 8:41and there's a scenario where Ohio State is playing Texas in the Cotton Bowl,
- 8:46which is rather famously located in Texas, in the semi final round. If
- 8:52the bracket plays out that way, and you know, that would obviously be
- 8:56a pretty substantial disadvantage. The answer on that was, if you were the
- 9:01top seed, they will kind of look ahead and you know, adjust that
- 9:05matchup. So if it's like Ohio State in Texas, are you know,
- 9:09on pace on a path to potentially play in that semi final matchup, and
- 9:15the choices this year are the Cotton Bowl and the Orange Bowl, they would
- 9:18assign Ohio State, you know, Ohio State side of the bracket. If
- 9:20Ohio State's the number one, they would go to the Rose Bowl and then
- 9:24they would go to the Orange Bowl. In that case, if you know,
- 9:26if they were going to play in Miami somehow, then obviously they would
- 9:30put that potentially in the Cotton Well, I mean, you don't want to
- 9:33put the number one seed at a disadvantage is playing Miami in Miami. Actually
- 9:39advantage is playing UCLA or USC and the Rose Bowl at disadvantage. Yeah,
- 9:43I mean, and and the first round is contractual for the next couple of
- 9:46years. So even if even if they were going to somehow play USC or
- 9:50UCLA in the quarter final round. Yes, that would be the Rose Bull
- 9:54came out today saying they want to stay yes, quarter final round January first,
- 9:58so that that he doesn't move, I have to move anything. So
- 10:01they will briefully bow out of any type of semi final action. Yes,
- 10:05So a couple a couple of interesting little pieces of information there on the college
- 10:09football playoff. Again, this is this is all the stuff that people People
- 10:13are like, why are you asking these stupid, you know, minutia kind
- 10:16of questions. It's like, well, because we're gonna get asked a question
- 10:18in October about well what happens if and it's like, well, now we
- 10:22have gone directly to the source and gotten the answer. So that's a lot
- 10:24of what this week is about. Well, another one Kirk parents. He
- 10:28was talking about the technology. We touched on that a little bit, the
- 10:33tablets on the sideline. He said, he loves it and it's great that
- 10:35college football has finally caught up of high school football. So and he comes
- 10:39from the NFL where they would have photos, you know, they print out
- 10:43the photos and they have that. He does think it's gonna be a little
- 10:46bit more maybe sometimes maybe too much information with video like photos. It's very
- 10:50boom boom, you can you could see it. We're but it's gonna be
- 10:54a huge help on the sidelines for the players and I I'm fascinated to see
- 11:01how all that works. You'll be on the sidelines and they're all gonna be
- 11:03huddled around their iPads and it's a brave new world. As we move into
- 11:09the tablets that the kids love. You know nowadays that the three year olds
- 11:13grew up with, now the twenty year olds get them. Everyone's screen time
- 11:18only going to go up at this college. The childer are supposed to be
- 11:20outside getting fresh air and exercise in playing football, and now there's going to
- 11:24be screen time to evenside. Shameful. One thing that not exactly a college
- 11:31football tradition, but definitely old school Wrigley Field. We talked to some of
- 11:35the Northwestern players on Tuesday about having played in Wrigley Field and how cool that
- 11:41was, and you know how different that is in terms of game day kind
- 11:43of stuff. Iowa players also played there. They did not, you know,
- 11:48they did not have all Chicago people necessarily who grew up as Cubs fans
- 11:52and had that whole you know, experience. So you've got a chance to
- 11:56talk to some of the Kirk parents and a couple of the Iowa players about
- 12:01that. What was what were their thoughts on playing in Wrigley Field? Well,
- 12:03talking to Jay Higgins, linebacker, he said that he said, I
- 12:09think the answer is like, it's a baseball stadium, not a football field,
- 12:11and playing on the infield there trying to you can't. It's we're not
- 12:18doing baseball moves, We're doing football moves, and you can't move people very
- 12:20well on the on the diamond, and so the footing was not great.
- 12:24Kirk Farren said the same thing, like the footing was not great on that
- 12:28field. So there, you know, that's those are some things like real
- 12:33world concerns. But conditions at Northwestern have famously been walking. Yeah, but
- 12:41it was interesting, you know they had to play when the players are on
- 12:46the same sideline. Everybody's on one sideline. Talked to Cam Porter, the
- 12:50Northwestern running back yesterday. He said he was told build me on opposite opposite
- 12:54sidelines, so that will be a help. But yeah, the footing is
- 12:58not great. But the old school building they loved and Prince Shalti I asked
- 13:05him how these defensive back and forth. Iowa, how familiar were you with
- 13:11the building? And he's like, well, you know they told us about
- 13:13it. You you kids today, what country did you grow up in?
- 13:16Certainly not America, sir. Did you not grow up with WGN? No,
- 13:20No, with w B. I don't know. Yeah, that's upn
- 13:24up kids today with their upn their WB and their tablets. I don't know,
- 13:31Tony, I just don't know. It was interesting that that when the
- 13:35teams were on the site on the same sideline, which sounds like it might
- 13:37not be the case this year, but when they were on the same sideline,
- 13:41there were issues with almost like a hockey line change during the second period,
- 13:45where you've kind of got the long change and if the puck gets stuck
- 13:48in one end, it's hard to get off the ice. Well, if
- 13:50the you know, it's it's harder to substitute, if the if the if
- 13:54you are on one end of the field and the balls down the other end.
- 13:58You know, if the out subs, then the defense gets a chance
- 14:01to sub. But if the defense wants to sub and the offense, you
- 14:03know that that can be a harder thing to do well. And fortunately,
- 14:07when talking to Jay Higgins about that. He said that when they were down
- 14:11by, you know, on the Northwestern side, Northwestern would sometimes throw a
- 14:16tight end in and one of the a newnother linebacker would have to come in
- 14:20because he play four two five, there's a linebacker would have to come running
- 14:22from like twenty five yards away. Fortunately they hold the time a little bit,
- 14:26but you've got to be on your toes and it's it's an interesting situation.
- 14:31If you ever see it, just look up a picture of Google,
- 14:35like Iowa Northwestern Wrigley Field, and you'll see the setup and there's a lot
- 14:39of open space, but then they're all kind of crammed. And he did
- 14:43say though that later on after that game down the road, he did go
- 14:46to a baseball game at Wrigula and he was like sitting in the stands,
- 14:50thinking, how in the world did they get a football for over year.
- 14:52I had the same thought. I went to a game there a couple of
- 14:54years ago, and you look and it's like, I guess it, Maybe
- 15:00I don't. Yeah, I'm I'm guessing I'm not going to have the luxury
- 15:03of standing behind the end zone in at least one end of the field because
- 15:07I don't think there's a lot of a lot of space there. And if
- 15:11someone does come running into and bumps into you, you're gonna get bumped directly
- 15:13into a brick wall, which seems not ideal. This was also the first
- 15:18impressions for a couple of LA schools here at Big ten media Days. Lincoln
- 15:22Riley was asked about the famous picture that he tweeted about his brisket a couple
- 15:26of years ago, and the brisket looked like it was, you know,
- 15:31well done ish and it got a lot of scorn and derision. He said,
- 15:33his barbecue skills are fine. It's pestography skills that were that were lacking
- 15:39in that case. He was also asked about the USC Notre Dame rivalry and
- 15:43the fact that that could be going away. They are still playing this year,
- 15:46but that right now is the last game of the season. USC hosting
- 15:50Notre Dame. You see us he has a difficult slate this year. This
- 15:54is not an easy schedule for them, and then you also have Notre Dame
- 15:56on there, and it was it was he didn't say it's definitely going away.
- 16:00We are definitely get doing rid of that, you know, getting rid
- 16:03of that thing. But it was the kind of answer that was, like,
- 16:06well, a lot of games, traditional rivalries have been casualties of college
- 16:14football expansion. Notre Dame has lost some of those, and you know,
- 16:19I think that that's one of those things that the ACC. They have their
- 16:23ACC scheduling agreement right now, but you know, you start they start to
- 16:29lose some of those. You wonder if that might push them, you know,
- 16:32if and when there's an ACC implosion slash explosion, push them even closer
- 16:37to the Big Ten in some way or fashion. Well, if you you
- 16:41lose USC, you lose perhaps the opportunity to play FSU Clemson in the ACC.
- 16:49The rest of the ACC is not enough of a draw necessarily unless you're
- 16:55playing Miami twice two times a year. That sort of thing. Catholics versus
- 17:00convicts, Catholics versus convicts too electric boogoloo. Yes, so there's some I
- 17:06think there's some strategic there. Should have Big ten start to freeze and not
- 17:10just start, but have they should should have been freezing Notre Dame out.
- 17:12I think that's been a conversation. There's no way LSU or USC is going
- 17:17to continue this. There's no reason to for that right. It the way
- 17:21he said it was one of those very diplomatic like, well, you know,
- 17:23gonna that's a decision that's going to get made above my pay grade.
- 17:26But that's when you tell your kids, we'll see yeah right, yeah,
- 17:30yes, yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, Lincoln Riley is going to turn
- 17:34this car around unless you unless you join the big tant and sirs. Yeah
- 17:40it. It is one of you know, and you go through the list
- 17:42of the great college football rivalries that have gotten kind of kicked the curb over
- 17:45the years, and you know the Backyard Brawl and the Border War, and
- 17:49you know Texas Texas A and M which went away and now is coming back,
- 17:52and Notre Dame. I mean, there are a million of them,
- 17:56and you know that is sort of the price of my in college football.
- 18:00There's going to be some cool stuff this fall. There is going to be
- 18:03some stuff that you will miss this fall, but definitely going to be a
- 18:06memorable season. And it's going to be a memorable season for all of us.
- 18:08At buckey Huddle dot com, that is where Ibany, Kevin and I
- 18:11cover the team, Mark covers, recruit and get our whole team. Effects's
- 18:14and those gurus making you a smarter football fan. It's all at Buckey Huddle
- 18:18dot com. Mentioned have some sort of early access to some of the season
- 18:23preview shows that we're doing here in Indianapolis. Has a really really good interesting
- 18:27conversations. Had a great conversation with Aaron McMahon from the Annarburnews and mlive dot
- 18:33com all about Michigan. Asked him, you know what is the perception right
- 18:37now in ann Arbor of you know what's going to happen when the NCAA noticed
- 18:42valigations drops. And it's a really really interesting conversation with it with a guy
- 18:47whose work I really respect. I've followed him for years and it was a
- 18:51great conversation. So you can find all that on the Huddleboard, present of
- 18:53by Jeff Ruby, Steahouse all at Buckeye Huddle dot com. We hope to
- 18:57see there. That'll do it for today. Thank you guys all for joining
- 19:00us. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.