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Ready for UFL Football · Motor City Mad Mouth

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  Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody, and welcome to another edition of the
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  Speaker 1: Motort City Man Miles Show. And I am looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to the show I have in the last few months,
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  Speaker 1: but now and Tommy was sort of once said, because
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  Speaker 1: God the Leeds does not mean that God denis and
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  Speaker 1: my goodness, I am pleased to be joined by Mark
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  Speaker 1: Perry and of the XFL. I mean, I'm sorry us
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  Speaker 1: A ufls. I'm getting caught up with these leads. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I know, Hey, we've got uh. I so theold this
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  Speaker 2: process started right, uh. So I had a I had
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  Speaker 2: a football I had a wrestling site called Pro Wrestling
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  Speaker 2: news Hub, and Vince McMann announced that he was going
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  Speaker 2: to bring back the XFL. So I started XFL news Hub.
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  Speaker 2: Then XFL went under, and then The Rock bought it,
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  Speaker 2: and then there was room rumblings about them merging with
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  Speaker 2: the CFL. So I bought CFL news Hub, and then
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  Speaker 2: Fox came in and said, hey, we want to start
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  Speaker 2: the USFL. So there's USFL news Hub. Then that went
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  Speaker 2: on for a year or two and then they merged
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  Speaker 2: and now we have UFL news Hub. So it is
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent accurate that you would mess that up
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  Speaker 2: because in fact, all those domains, I have gone through
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  Speaker 2: this whole since twenty eighteen dealing with the spring football.
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  Speaker 1: Do you own them?
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  Speaker 2: I own them all.
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  Speaker 1: I like you already because I own a bunch of.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but I mean it's full sights. I mean
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  Speaker 2: we had guys reporting. I mean, you know, Mike Mitchell
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  Speaker 2: and you know some legends in the sports spring football,
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  Speaker 2: you know, have reported on all these sites. And then
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was like, do you want to merge
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  Speaker 2: to a new one? And I'm like, no, just just
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  Speaker 2: start fresh, start a new name. So this was year
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  Speaker 2: two of UFL news Hub. But actually this is like
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  Speaker 2: my gosh, I mean, if it's twenty twenty five, twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're talking seven years of following spring football.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you a little bit about my day
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  Speaker 1: back in the spring football. Before I do that, why
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  Speaker 1: don't you let everybody know a little bit about it.
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  Speaker 1: You introduce yourself and what your role is with UFL
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  Speaker 1: news Hub, because I'm going to get it right and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to discipline myself to make sure I do it,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to look like something that's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen in a few weeks. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be in Markebaoll even though April Fools is coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Mark Perry. I'm a software engineer by
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  Speaker 2: day and an entrepreneur at night. I've had websites since
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  Speaker 2: I was graduated college. I'm in my fifties now. I
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  Speaker 2: just turned fifty this year. And you know, I always
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  Speaker 2: had a pro wrestling site for a long time and
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  Speaker 2: sold it. My claim the fame in the pro wrestling
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  Speaker 2: world is Impact Wrestling got their domain name from me.
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  Speaker 2: My website was called Impact Wrestling, and I sold it
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  Speaker 2: to TNA Wrestling. If you guys know anything about pro
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  Speaker 2: wrestling or any fans out there, if the history of wrestling,
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  Speaker 2: that's my foray. But you know, like I said before,
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  Speaker 2: when Vince McMahon announced the XFL, I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: this will be fun. I was kind of getting bored
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  Speaker 2: of wrestling, and I'm like, you know, just I like football.
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  Speaker 2: And then just kind of started the site when they
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  Speaker 2: didn't even have Oliver Luck. There was nobody there. It
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  Speaker 2: was just an idea and wrote about the cheerleaders and.
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  Speaker 3: The the uh blimp that crashed, and you know, just
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  Speaker 3: kind of the history of the original XFL and then
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  Speaker 3: the rest has been history.
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  Speaker 1: You ever heard of a guy named Steve Raichell, you will,
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  Speaker 1: because this guy's a real, big combat sports guy. And
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  Speaker 1: when I asked you before we went on, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to come on inside the Pigskin, he's one of them.
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  Speaker 1: And this guy is big a pro wrestling guy as
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get he really, he really is. Stay tuned,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to bringing on that show. Will
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  Speaker 1: be a much different format when I have a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of guys asking me questions. Instead of what we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do tonight, We're gonna cover the league like a blanket.
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  Speaker 1: Sir Bryan, Welcome, thanks for being on tonight. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that you're able to introduce I'm glad you'ator to
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  Speaker 1: come on the show tonight. And obviously for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you folks that don't know if the United Football
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  Speaker 1: League will be starting, I believe next weekend. I also,
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  Speaker 1: I did an interview with Darryl moose Johnson over at
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Super Bowl fifty nine. It was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to send it over to you and then
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  Speaker 1: you can take whatever you want out of it, whatever
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  Speaker 1: you have to do to write content, but there'll be
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  Speaker 1: something because you were nice enough to kindly subscribe to
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  Speaker 1: our channel, and anything I can do to collaborate with
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  Speaker 1: you going forward now that we have this show and
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  Speaker 1: that fat what we've been in contact, I'm definitely opening
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  Speaker 1: any collaboration that you need, and I'm here anytime you
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  Speaker 1: need me. That's what I find that when you have
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  Speaker 1: people that are really nice to you and so forth,
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  Speaker 1: that it's important. And I want to also point out
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  Speaker 1: though the UFL News hub is on the South Florida
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  Speaker 1: Tribune front page, so we actually have a plug in
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  Speaker 1: that allows you to get news over our website. I
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  Speaker 1: view that mark as a media distribution partner of a
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  Speaker 1: different sort, because when you go to our website, you
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  Speaker 1: click their link, you go directly to their site. And
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  Speaker 1: we've been collaborating for a while, and I'm just glad
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of our football fans that don't have
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  Speaker 1: the appetite that aren't able to get the NFL now
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  Speaker 1: other than the draft, and at least be able to
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  Speaker 1: look at you guys and get a lot of updates,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to have those throughout the show. So
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  Speaker 1: I just want to set the table for what we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about tonight Mark. So but that said,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into this. We're going to talk about each
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  Speaker 1: team's UFL projected starting quarterback, and I'm going to ask
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  Speaker 1: you who has the best. We're gonna start off with
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  Speaker 1: Max Dugan TSU, I'm sorry, CCU, and he's with the
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  Speaker 1: Settle St. Louis battlets Yep, what are your thoughts about him?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Manny Wilkins. So the
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  Speaker 2: thing is AJ mccerron wanted to come back. The BattleHawks
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  Speaker 2: pretty much said, you know, we're not interested, which is
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  Speaker 2: really surprising because he was let's just say, he was
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  Speaker 2: the biggest star in spring football, right but he was
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  Speaker 2: also getting on in years and was a little bit
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  Speaker 2: injured last year. But he came in and he tried
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  Speaker 2: to lead the battle Hawks the championship game, couldn't do it,
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  Speaker 2: and so really early on during the offseason, they moved on.
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  Speaker 2: And so clearly they knew they knew they had somebody
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  Speaker 2: they felt that was would play better than AJ mccherran
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  Speaker 2: and that's Manny Wilkins. So I think he is going
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  Speaker 2: to be the guy to kind of get things rolling
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  Speaker 2: for the for the Saint Louis BattleHawks going into the season.
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  Speaker 2: But Max Stugan is a guy that people are very
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  Speaker 2: excited about seeing and a lot of these teams. One
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  Speaker 2: of the articles that that one of our guys, Pat Raffino, did,
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  Speaker 2: he's a big time quarterbacks kind of writer, writes a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff about quarterbacks, and he mentioned in his
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  Speaker 2: article about how a lot of times these I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find it that you know, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these teams will go it's not just gonna be
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  Speaker 2: one quarterback all season long. Now, the DC Defenders will
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  Speaker 2: have their quarterback, uh, you know, basically all season long,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, barring injury and the Arlington renegades, but
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these teams will kind of flip flop
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks all season long. So I wouldn't be surprised to
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  Speaker 2: see Max out there on the field at some point
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  Speaker 2: the season.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds good. Kellen Mond Texas A and M with san
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  Speaker 1: Antonio Brahmas.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think he's gonna be the guy. He
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have the spring football experience, but he's definitely somebody
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  Speaker 2: that another big name. He's a local guy, so that
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  Speaker 2: in itself is gonna get you know, people are excited
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  Speaker 2: about him. Also, in that quarterback room, you've got Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Hogan and Jered Guarantanamo. He Gamo has been around for
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  Speaker 2: a while, but I think Kellen Man is the guy
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  Speaker 2: for the promise and the brahma is same thing. They
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  Speaker 2: got rid of all their quarterbacks from last year and
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  Speaker 2: have a whole new I mean, these other guys have
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  Speaker 2: played a little bit, but Chase Garbers was their guy,
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  Speaker 2: and he was lighting it up. And then apparently they
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  Speaker 2: didn't want him back or he didn't want to come back,
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  Speaker 2: and and so now the rookie Kellen Man gets the
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  Speaker 2: nod there.
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  Speaker 1: Texas A and m. Anthony Brown played as college ball
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  Speaker 1: at Oregon As. I haven't listed. He's been Roughnecks. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think about Anthony.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's been seems to be the guy, and
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  Speaker 2: now the Roughnecks are probably going to be there, projected
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  Speaker 2: in the and the odds makers to be at the
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  Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel again. But I have heard things
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  Speaker 2: about Anthony Brown. Jalen McClendon was with the DC Defenders.
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  Speaker 2: He played well when he was with the Vegas Vipers,
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  Speaker 2: so he might get a shot there. But Anthony Brown
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  Speaker 2: seems to be the guy that people are excited about
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  Speaker 2: at least in practice footage when it comes to game time,
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  Speaker 2: which we talked to U C. J. Johnson, the head coach,
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  Speaker 2: this actually today this afternoon after practice, that they'll have
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  Speaker 2: a decision Friday or Saturday on who the starting quarterback
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  Speaker 2: is going to be. Jordan's Tamu.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying doing the best I can with known
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  Speaker 1: for being at old myths. Obviously you mentioned that defenders.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan, Yeah, he's he's one of the you know, basically
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  Speaker 2: between him and Luis Perez, are you know, the top names.
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  Speaker 2: And now that Adrian mccherrn's gone, led the DC Defenders
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  Speaker 2: in the XFL to the championship game. I was there.
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  Speaker 2: Fortunately lost last year they didn't play as well. They
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  Speaker 2: lost Abram Smith. They're running back, but I think this
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  Speaker 2: year Tom moves back. It really took the DC. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a season ticket holder, and I always say DC Defenders
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  Speaker 2: are America's team because they're in Washington, d C. That
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  Speaker 2: only makes logical sense being in Washington, d C. So
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  Speaker 2: if you don't have a team, your team is automatically
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  Speaker 2: DC Defenders. I just want to point that out to
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  Speaker 2: anybody out there. They're looking for a team and they're
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  Speaker 2: always good. I mean, you know, Audi Field is fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, season ticket holder the Beer Snakes. So
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  Speaker 2: Tom who is is our guy and he should have
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  Speaker 2: a better season this year now that he's got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of some of his weapons back. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: the guys last year made it to NFL rosters and
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  Speaker 2: stayed on NFL rosters, so they never came back.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're a louded of Lewis Perez obviously to Renegade
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  Speaker 1: Arlington Renegage and he had found around on an NFL
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  Speaker 1: practice squad. So Mark, please elaborate on Lewis the journey
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  Speaker 1: man as we like to call it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Luis Perez is the case coming out of the
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  Speaker 2: book called the King of Spring, and that's his nickname
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  Speaker 2: within our circle because he led the Arlington Renegades the
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  Speaker 2: championship game and I was there the DC Defenders lost.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he led the league and passing, he's always
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  Speaker 2: up there and stats and he's always kind of a
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  Speaker 2: guy that they're always like, well, no, like we'll put
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  Speaker 2: him on the bench and we'll put somebody else. And
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  Speaker 2: he did that. He was on the the Vegas Vipers
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  Speaker 2: and was on the bench, and then they traded him
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  Speaker 2: to the Renegades after an injury, and then he took
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  Speaker 2: over and led them to the championship and they won.
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  Speaker 2: And then last year he's despite their team being you know,
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  Speaker 2: middle of the pack, he was lighting things up. So
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  Speaker 2: Luis Perez is the King of Spring, as he says,
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  Speaker 2: and I expect him to have another good season next year.
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  Speaker 1: This year I wrote that down by the way, king
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  Speaker 1: of Spring. I like it. It's good. Matt Correll, Ole
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  Speaker 1: Miss Birmingham Stallions.
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  Speaker 2: Alex Magoo is returning. He led them to championship in
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  Speaker 2: the USFL. Last year. He was a wide receiver for
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  Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers got they brought him in as
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback, played wide receiver. I think he was even
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  Speaker 2: playing tight end a little bit. The Packers let him
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  Speaker 2: go and now he's back in the UFL, so he
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  Speaker 2: will be the guy. He was the top player in
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  Speaker 2: the USFL, and I think he's going right back to
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  Speaker 2: where he was comfortable with. So Matt Corral They have
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  Speaker 2: Case cookas two, a guy that's played well in spring
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  Speaker 2: and spring leagues. He was with the USFL and he
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  Speaker 2: was with the UFL last year. They have a Birmingham
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  Speaker 2: as a stacked team. They're already picked to win the
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  Speaker 2: championship again this year. They're stacked at quarterback. There is
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  Speaker 2: some changeover. They lost their general manager. He went into
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  Speaker 2: the college ranks a young guy. He was only twenty
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  Speaker 2: three years old their general manager and built a three
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  Speaker 2: time champion Stallions. So Alex Magoo is the guy again
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  Speaker 2: and he will be another top name in the league.
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  Speaker 2: And the Stallions don't look like they'll be stopping, like
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  Speaker 2: they're still going to dominate this year.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry, We're going to get to the coaching shortly.
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  Speaker 1: Brake Perkins Virginia played, will be playing for the Michigan Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: Michigan Panthers, So yeah, I think Bryce Perkins Danny Eltling
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  Speaker 2: is a guy. I think Danny will be the top guy.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's kind of between those two guys. They
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  Speaker 2: had some good quarterback play last year and they traded
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  Speaker 2: their guy to uh where did they trade him to? Oh? E. J. Perry.
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  Speaker 2: They traded him to the Memphis show Boats. So he
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  Speaker 2: was their guy last year. So Michigan Panthers, they were
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  Speaker 2: a good team, kind of a surprise team last year.
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  Speaker 2: I think Etling Eltling gets the gets the nod over
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Perkins.
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  Speaker 1: Uh this season, Well you just SAIDJ. Perry with the
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  Speaker 1: Memphis show Boats out of Brown by the way, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's pretty intelligent. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, he was great for that for the Michigan Panthers
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  Speaker 2: last year. Surprised that they traded him. They have Troy
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  Speaker 2: Williams also, Uh did he was okay? But the Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 2: with the Pittsburgh Mallers of the USFL and they made
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  Speaker 2: it all the way to the USFL Championship. But I
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  Speaker 2: think e J. Perry is the guy. Memphis Showboats completely
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  Speaker 2: new coaching staff and and you know, built from the
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  Speaker 2: ground up. They were probably the most least popular franchise.
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  Speaker 2: But now with new head coach and maybe e J.
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  Speaker 2: Perry at quarterback, stabilized things and they'll be ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: Marshall, we talked about all these quarterbacks, so you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: I'm now I'm going to give you a summary question.
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  Speaker 1: What QB stands out in this group?
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  Speaker 2: I think Alex Magoo coming back playing for the Birmingham Stallions.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a fantasy player, I mean, I know people
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  Speaker 2: will be attracted to the King of Spring Luis Perez.
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  Speaker 2: I would probably go with Alex magoo Is as your
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  Speaker 2: preseason MVP. Typically if you're the quarterback of the Birmingham
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  Speaker 2: Stallions over the last several seasons between the USFL and UFL,
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  Speaker 2: I mean pretty much, you're going to be an MVP candidate.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's going to the coaches. I always like talking
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  Speaker 1: about coaches because the one thing about the UFL has
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  Speaker 1: a lot of great coaches that very few people realize.
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  Speaker 1: The one guy who I actually will say, though, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do a little name dropping here is
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  Speaker 1: Tom Herman, who I work with at FAU. I hope
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  Speaker 1: he lands a job somewhere, whether it's in the UFL
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  Speaker 1: or somewhere. He's a really good offensive mine. It was
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  Speaker 1: a tough situation that Tom Herman just Mark had it
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  Speaker 1: FAU with an il and il excuse me, in a
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  Speaker 1: mid major. So if his name ever gets thrown around
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  Speaker 1: out there, I'm just putting it out there. Tom Herman,
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  Speaker 1: formerly a FAU Ohio State and Texas just an FYI,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get the guy hired. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a recruiter out there, and you certainly don't have a
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  Speaker 1: shortage of teams in Texas either. Yes, speaking up UFL
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  Speaker 1: head coaches Bob Stoops.
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  Speaker 2: Yes when he so, I when I had XFL News Hub,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, Oliver Luck got hired and I kind
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  Speaker 2: of was paying attention and I wasn't. And then really
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  Speaker 2: what kind of changed the trajectory of the XFL under
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  Speaker 2: Vince McMahon was hiring Bob Stoops. That was a big,
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  Speaker 2: huge gut and they paid him, you know, over a
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  Speaker 2: million dollars at least, if not more, uh to coach
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  Speaker 2: in the XFL. And he always said it he just
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  Speaker 2: enjoys it. And I was surprised. I was. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have been surprised if he didn't come back this year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he did win a championship. They were under
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  Speaker 2: five hundred team that won the XFL championship last year.
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  Speaker 2: They were kind of middle of the pack. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, he might just be done with it.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he's enjoying it. I think they're paying
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  Speaker 2: him well. And he's a big name coach and uh
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  Speaker 2: so you know, you kind of need those games to
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  Speaker 2: get people excited about and he's certainly a big name.
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  Speaker 1: I had in credibility. All he did was win national
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  Speaker 1: championship home sooner. How can you enjoy its breaking? Think
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  Speaker 1: about it? Okay, I mean really, when do you play
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  Speaker 1: what tank? Twelve games all year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you think about it. It's only three
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  Speaker 2: or four months of work. And that's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: He liked about it, and he didn't have to deal
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  Speaker 2: with the students. These are all players that are hungry
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  Speaker 2: that you want to make it to the NFL, so
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to deal with And if they're of trouble,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to call their parents. You just cut them.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's twenty other guys that are willing to
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  Speaker 2: just jump on your roster.
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  Speaker 1: Get rid and let the general manager deal with it.
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  Speaker 1: Do something you like to do called I've heard of
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: it bad not a bad gig. And you don't have
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: to deal with all the extracurricular stuff. Yeah. Well, we
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: talked about Birmingham Stallions. Skip Holes struggled at University of
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: South Florida, but hadn't struggled anywhere else. And now the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: guys that legend. I'm surprised he doesn't get a statue
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: in Birmingham, although he probably will be a send on.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: But Skip holds what an incredible job, what we've won
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: three Street titles in a row, three peat in a
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: different sense, or you're talk about Skip being back.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he's back. There was some rumblings that maybe
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: he might have gotten a college job. It's unfortunate because
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: you know, Birmingham is the pinnacle franchise. When the USFL returned,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: that was their hub, and the fans have just not
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: shown out. I mean, you have a three time champion team,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: You've got top players that go to the NFL. At quarterback,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: you got Skip Holds, who's a great human being, markets
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the team well, you know, he's a likable guy. But
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: they just can't generate the interest on that team for
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: some reason. Maybe it'll change this year, but I mean,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: you know, you'd hate to lose a guy like Skip
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Holtz too. I mean, if he wins four I mean
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: that spring. I mean, he's already a Spring. If there
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: was a Hall of Fame for Spring football, it would
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: be very short, you know, the windows. But I mean
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: he certainly would be in a Hall of Fame as
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: a coach, three time champion.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I Mick, he's a lady, glad to have you in there.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Bryan Pattis says, I like the name Arlington Renegades and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the logo yeah there, all right, Well now you ought
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to feel comfortable with this because you're already seeking an
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: American team in that league. These the defenders, Riggy Barlow,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Rag So So he's one that kind of no one
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: knew about, but he was an HBCU coach Virginia State,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I believe, and you know, the XFL wanted to bring in,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: you know, not just not only name brand guys like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Bob Stoops, Wade Phillips, but they you know, they tried
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Rod Woodson, they tried heinz Ward and he was kind
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: of a name that people were like, huh, who is
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: this guy? But I mean he's been great. He's a
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: great ambassador to the team. I've met him multiple times,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: a great guy, and you know we're rooting for him.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's got Greg Williams. Everybody knows remembers Greg
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Williams from NFL defensive coordinator days bounty Gate. I think
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: was he was kind of unfortunately, but I mean fantastic,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: And so he's the defensive coordinator and and and I
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: think they got a great general manager and Von Hutchins,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: So I think they they've got a stack coaching staff too,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and some young up and coming guys as well. So
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: he's and he's a he's a great coach too. We
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: were worried about maybe he was going to be going
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: on too, but he's still there.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, Curtis Johnson, please tell me more about him.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: He is the one guy that I think some people
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: are like, this could be his last year. Great guy,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: great coach, good coach. But the team was not good
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: last year at all. And this season are you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: they weren't good. And when he was the coach in
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the UFL, then he switched, you know, I mean from
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the USFL then from the UFL. Still the team was
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: still not good. I think they brought in a new
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: general manager, giving him new quarterbacks, you know, really trying
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: to to get things going for him. We'll see that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, if they don't turn around this season, this
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: could be his final season in the UFL. There's a
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: lot of big time coaches that want to come into
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the league's he was another kind of like, you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: people were not a household name like a Bob Stoops
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: or Wade Phillips that came in. But you know, he's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: on a short leach this season. I think if they
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: can't turn around, I think they might move on.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: You alluded to this earlier. Now I'm going to get
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to it. The one hire I'm really intrigued and happy
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: about actually is Ken wizen Hunt going to the Memphis Showboats.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I really like him. He was a proven NFL coach
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and to see him get an opportunity in this league,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: because let's face a reality, the UFL does not have
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: any shortage of credible names in this league. You're not
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: talking about guys you haven't heard of. Ken wozn't. Hunt.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: To me, is one of the most credible people you
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: can have, and Memphis should be thankful to have them.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: What do you think? Two part question one? Are you
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: looking for other Ken Wizenhunt? What type of year do
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you think that the show Bolts are going to have?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: So the odds makers has them at the bottom of
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: the barrow, the second to worst the Houston Roughnecks. But
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I think Ken wizen Hunt. We can talk about the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: head coach Mike Nolan for the Michigan Panthers. He turned
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: things around Wade Phillips. When he went to the San
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Antonio Brahmas, he turned them around. I think Ken wizen
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Hunt is one of the top coaches in the league
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to have them that low, and I think they put
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: him in the right spot that Memphis franchise needs help.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: That's why I think, you know, uh, having a name
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: like him, We'll see if the you know, fan turnout goes.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: But that was that was to me when we heard
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: that name that he was coming in. We replaced John d. Filippo,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: which is again another guy that was kind of like,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: who's this guy? You know, he had a nice career
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: in college and stuff getting an opportunity for pro ball.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean and wizend Hunt wanted in. Apparently
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: he called up Mouse Johnson was like, I want in,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and Moose said that there was multiple big name coaches
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: that wanted to come in to play springing. What a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: great gig. Maybe you get paid a million, maybe he
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: get paid five hundred thousand, whatever it is, coach for
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: four months and then you just have the rest of
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the year off and you can play golf.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Right, So you like, actually, what Ken winmen Hunt could
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: bring them the table? I is that correct? Yeah?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I think they're my dark horse as a team that
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: everybody's picking now. Last year Michigan Panthers were picked. Oh
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: and I'm sorry. The San Antonio Brahmas were picked to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: be the seventh worst you know team in the league,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: and they made it to the finals and they lost
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: to the Birmingham Stallions. I think Memphis show votes could
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: be the same thing. Jarrelyn Horton was a defensive coordinator
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: in the USFL and with the Pittsburgh Mallers and they
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: made it to the championship. So Ken Wizon Hunt on
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: offense and Horton on defense. I mean, I think they
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: could turn it round real quick.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Well you allude to these guys. Now we're going to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: get two of them. Michigan Panthers. Mike no One. We
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: all know Dad Dick Nolan was a good coach in
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the NFL. What do you like about the job that
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Mike no One has done.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, Michigan Panthers are right in there. I wanted
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: him to wear the suit. That was the thing. He
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: needed to wear the suit, and he didn't wear suits.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: He should have rocked a suit. But I mean, that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: was another great coach to come in there at Michigan.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Again last year, they weren't really thought of. It's going
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: to be a good franchise and they made it to
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the championship, you know, the USFL Conference championship game. And
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: you know Jake Bates, people know him. Went on to
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions and they had a good team, so
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: they should be good this year too. Another great coach.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Until I get into my history with bring football, this
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: will blow you away. That's why you were obviously a
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: great choice to bring on this show to get football.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Most of the lot of younger people, they don't know
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: what's about it until it became an idea. Were sort
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: of makes sense. He didn't have a feeder system in
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the NFL. This is a great place to go. San
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Antonio Bromas just talk about wait wait on a pretty
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: good job. He seems to be acclimating to reread football
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: as well, doesn't he.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's always been a great coach in spring football
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and A. J. Smith is his offensive coordinator, and they
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: play the it's not the run and shoot, it's the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the name is going to escape me. No, they play
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: oh gosh, and I can't forget forget his name. Air
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: raid offense, the air raid offense, and they lighted up
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and they got great receivers. John Trey Kirkland came over
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: when Wade Phillips was with the Houston Roughnecks. And it's
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: funny because originally they didn't have a spot for Wade,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: and at the last minute wines Ward said he didn't
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: want back in the USFL and the UFL well, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: so he dropped out and then they were like, Wade,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: do you want to come back because of Ridge. So
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: originally when they merged everything, Wade was out, but then
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: hines Ward decided not to and then Wade Phillips came in,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: brought his staff and made it to the championship game.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: So they'll be good and they're a lot of fun
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to watch. Good defensive team, good offense, high powered offense.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: So they've got a nice combination there. And again another
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: great guy. Everybody likes playing with him, playing for him,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: and he's enjoying himself so well.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: We talked about here Radied offense. The guy that stands
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: out to me is Mike Leech. He's the one who
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: really pulew it up wherever he went offensively. So if
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you didn't have an offense in a league such as
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: if we're kind of up quarterback lineouts, I don't think
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: there's any offense even employ that would be probably good. Last,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: just want to get to Saint What was battle Hawks
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and Anthony Beck? What do you know about him? Well?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's funny because I grew up on Long Island,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: so as a Jets fan, transplant here to Maryland and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: was a Raven season ticket holder. So my allegiance is
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: with the Baltimore ravens now. But I remember him back
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: in you know, his tight end with the with the Jets.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Another great guy, good ambassador to the league. He really
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: wanted the Saint Louis Battlehawk franchise when he was I mean,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: he really pushed to get that opportunity to coach in
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: the US in the UFL XFL, in the USFL Now
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Bruce greg Kowski was his offensive coordinator and people remember
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: him from the NFL days. He has now moved on
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to Detroit. So the question is, is in now they
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: lost AJ mccerrorn, they lost b Bruce brag Kowski. How
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: is is he was it those two guys? Is what
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: made the ship run in Saint Louis? Or is it
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: is it Anthony Beck at the at the helm? So
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: having him, uh, you know, it's gonna be an interesting season.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And really the UFL in order for it to survive,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Saint Louis needs to be a strong franchise.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Well you're a great segue man, you really are. That
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: said lead me to my next esson. Could you see
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis ever getting another NFL team?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: So it's funny because the Saint Louis fandom is born
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: out of hatred of Stan Kronk, and so really it's
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the anger is what fuels them. Now in DC, the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: DC Defenders always drew well because of the anger towards
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Daniel Dan Snyder.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: And when you would be at a DC Defenders game,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and even last year with the new regime for the Commanders,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: there was always chance of f Dan Snyder just random
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: be in the middle of a third quarter and a
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: timeout and the stadium will chant f Dan Snyder. But
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: now that the Commanders are good this year last year,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I wonder how that's going to affect DC now the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Saint Louis they don't have that. And I think we're
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: hearing from sources that season ticket sales are going to
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: be down this year, including in Saint Louis. But I
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: think they know that if they show out for the BattleHawks,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, the NFL needs to take that location seriously
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and it's a great sports town and really they should
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: have never left to begin with. I mean, they still
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: play at the Dome. And so this is going to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: be an interesting year for the Saint Louis BattleHawks because
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: not only do they have their five home games, but
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: because of the women's NCAA tournament played in Saint Louis,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the San Antonio Brahmas are going to play their home
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: game in Saint Louis, so they're going to have six
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: home games. If Saint Louis is good and wins the
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: XFL Conference, that would be a seventh game. And rumor
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: has it that they're going to play the championship game
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: again in Saint Louis, so that would be eight home games.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Or Saint Louis fans if they show out for all
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: eight games, which is a lot to ask of them,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: they were kind of getting burnt out at the end,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: but they did show up for the championship game, right.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, NFL franchises, NFL would need to look at
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Saint Louis and be like, Okay, they need to really
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: be on the top of the list. If we're going
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: to add an expansion team, and that's why they are
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: so passionate about the BattleHawks. Now, if the NFL came
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: in and said, hey, Saint Louis, we're putting a new
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: franchise in there, I don't know what would happen with
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the BattleHawks after that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Time will tell could there ever be a Trey Lance
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: signing if he failed to land an NFL free agent job.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Let's face reality, Trey was robbed coming in. Didn't play
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of games in college, I believe, was at
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: North Dakota State, I believe, huh. And he didn't play
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of games at thirteen, was hurt in San Francisco,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: didn't play many there, went to Dallas, hadn't had a
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: lot of play time. I think some of an ideallea
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: for Trey Lance, don't you. Yeah?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I mean young guys coming in, I mean really you
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: just need I mean, think about all the guys that
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: have made it to the back in the NFL. PJ.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Walker was with the XFL in twenty twenty and he
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: finally is now not on an NFL franchise, but he's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: now up in Canada. And I think the reason why
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: he's in Canada is the UFL didn't want him because
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: he was getting older. Ben Denucci played with the Seattle
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Sea Dragons in the XFL. He's still in the NFL.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And you've got you know, Alex McGoo went moved up.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Aj mccerron went back to the NFL for a while
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: as a backup quarterback and then came with the n
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: there is and his name escapes me. Still with the Jets.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: He was the Birmingham Stallions quarterback last year. He's with
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the Jets. So absolutely, you know, if you can light
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: it up in the UFL like you're going to get
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: a shot back in the NFL real quick.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I think Trey lanmce could use it. He really could.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys who reminded me
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit of Josh Rose and Josh Rose and
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: everywhere he went he'd get an opportunity for about a
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: year or two to be able to see if he
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: can play, and I think Trey Lance is similar to that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know about attitude wise, I didn't know either
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: well enough. But I'm talking about experiencing game reps. I've
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: been recovering this the pro football forty five years, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something here. I remember the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: old Michigan Panthers that played at the Pontiac Silverdome. Never
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: saw a game at the Dome, but I saw him
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: play at the old Tampa Stadium when they had Jim
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Stanley and they won the USFL Championship. I remember that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I'm old enough a Nelton sixty two years old, but
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: better than me, old enough than not not cover the
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: USFL championship game, I believe in nineteen eighty four. And
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: the owner of that league of the New Jersey Generals,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: fellow by the name of Donald Trump.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: You ever heard of that?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I know who that is.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I actually invited myself in a bunch of writers up
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to his room and we were talking. It was pretty interesting,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: or realized now will Road He ended up being president. Yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: hergel Walker and I don't know if Virginal Walker's on
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the cabinet. Not turning into the political show. So don't worry.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the old Michigan Panthers who actually put
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: sixty thousand fans into Pinett Silver Ow many years ago
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: for a playoff game. You know, people in Detroit are
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: great for people on You know, you have your allegiances.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Mine is Michigan Panthers because of my time going back.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: We don't have a team in Flora. But again, I'm
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a Michigan Panthers guy anyway, and I'm glad that they're back.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: That's how important is it to have at least the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Michigan Panthers says Maybe what we'll do is talk a
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: little bit of an expansion as I go through some
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: of the other things we want to talk about. The
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Michigan Panthers. For me, at least present represents some history.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and the Stallions, do you know show
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: But I mean they're all the USFL teams. It's just
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: they're not drawing like and I don't know if it's
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a post COVID thing really, I mean, aside from the
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: who tailed off a little bit. Saint Louis was on
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: fire last year. San Antonio Brahmas don't draw as well
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: as they did when they had a AAF San Antonio team.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: You thought that they would do well. All of these
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: former USFL teams, you know, drawing sixty thousand and fifty
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: thousand and forty thousand. I mean they would be happy
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: with fifteen thousand nowadays. So I don't know if it's
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: you know, live sports or you know, trusting. You know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: these leagues come and go, and so people don't want
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: to put their heart into it, which I totally understand.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: We've talked about at the beginning. They show how many
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: different websites I started just to try to keep up
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: with all the different changes. So it's important there're Supposedly
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons why Michigan is still around because
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: they don't draw very well, is that a lot of
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: these teams have potential owners sitting in the wings, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Michigan has potent I've heard several names about that. That's
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: why there's a Michigan Panthers team. Remember, the USFL had
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a lot teams. There's a lot of locations they could
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: have chose. They chose Michigan. Again, it's a good market,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you know. You think with the Detroit Lions kind of
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: being exciting to watch that maybe that would draw people
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: to the Panthers. But again, a lot of the US
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: former USFL teams that are in the UFL are struggling
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: to get that juice like they had in the eighties.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the major reason for that is you have
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: private ownership, and a lot of those owners are willing
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to spend money legitimately compete for the top tier talent
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. This league is not considered one of
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: those types of leagues where you're going to compete with
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: the NFL. It's a complementary league, which they consider a
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: feeder system as I understand, So it's a different animal.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I think I'm glad that Fox bought it and that
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: they're able to keep entertainment during the offseason and that
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: players are getting the rest. Back then, when I covered
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the old USFL, they're bidding wars. Yeah, Jim Kelly, I thought, hey,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to see the gamblers go. I could go on the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: list of the herschel Walker, the Bluety, The list goes
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: on and on, and you had bigger names that they
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: went there to see. Now you have guys where as
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you stayed two or for years that then you haven't
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: been good enough to make it to the NFL, Whereas
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: then you're getting paid some good money. Think about Jim Kelly,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Steve Young, they started out any old USFL, you don't
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: have anything that bears this. I hate to see AJ McCarron,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: who was considered a marketable player no longer there, but
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: he certainly. I think was definitely good for the league,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't he?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean I was surprised. Okay, if
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Saint Louis didn't want him, why wouldn't Birmingham Stallions want him?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: That was the weird part. Tell it would be perfect
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: in Alabama.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Well, talk about Jake Baks. We're going to go to
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: a quick station brink Jake Bakes, in my opinion, because
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: this kicking almost seemed like you put the league on
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the map with those long sixty yard field goals and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: it didn't take him long to get a job, go
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: right across the building to land with the Detroit Lions.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: What you're talking about what Jake Bates meant to the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four or UFL, I.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Mean that was that was, you know, one of the
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: top stories. I mean, especially his background where he didn't
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: even kick a field goal in college. He was like
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the kickoff specialist and comes in gets an opportunity. You
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: think about Brandon Aubrey played with the USFL, Cavante Turpin
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: played in the USFL, and these guys have all signed
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: big time contracts. This is the kind of things that
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: we need. We need to move outside though of the
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: kicking and special teams and move into you know, wide
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: receivers and running backs. And that's why this league needs
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: time to kind of grow. Now we're having this kind
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: of labor talk and maybe there's a walkout or strike,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: which would be terrible for the league. You know, do
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: they is the league going to make it past the season?
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: They're talking about expansion. They seem to be. Everything seems
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: to be on the right path. So we'll have to
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: see that and we'll get we'll get more stars coming out,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: you know this year.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I understand that the labor and risk though is attribute
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to the health benefits. Is that correct?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Health benefits and pay were the two big ones. But again,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: you know, uh, I was told that, you know, to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: pay health benefits for these players year round, you're talking
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: about you know, ten week season. To pay them year
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: round would cost the league like one point six or
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: two million dollars or something just for that alone. And
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: they're cutting costs because they're trying to get this in
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: line so that it can grow.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: You know, they switched everybody from yearly employees to seasonal employees.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: The coaches took a pay cut, Like everybody's taking a
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: pay cut. Across the board. They're trying to kind of
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: figure it out. It's one of those things where it's like, well, yeah,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I mean you're Red Bird, CAPITALI or Fox. You have
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: all this money, why don't you just want to spend it?
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: And so it's pay and it's and it's yearly health insurance.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: The problem is what they're not The league's viewpoint of
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: it is that like, hey, we're trying to add two
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: new teams next year, so we if we're going to
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: force us to give you a ten thousand dollars raise
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: per player, that is really good. And we know that
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: ticket sales are down. What they do have going for
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: them this year is Friday Night on Fox. I think
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: that was going to be that's going to be a
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: big draw. And if I think if Saint Louis does
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: well this year will help them financially. But you know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: so it's tough. But I understand the players too, But
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're only working a couple months of the year,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: but then you got to train all season long, all
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: off season, and if you've got a regular job, you
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: got to quit your job to go do that. So
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: it's it's a tough spot right now.
• 39:46
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• 39:48
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• 39:50
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  Speaker 1: City man Mouth. Let's go back to expansion you talked
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: about to next year. What two are you hearing about?
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: So for expansion, we've got definitely Saint Louis. I mean,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Seattle. Okay, so that is I've heard you know,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: so Seattle. Why Seattle is remembered that I know stuff
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: about Seattle.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Uh so.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Let's just say that, you know, there's agreement still in
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: place from the XFL days. So that's why Seattle is
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: is is there? The second one that I've been hearing
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: is is Ohio. Columbus, Ohio, not Canton. I was in Canton,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: went to Canton, Ohio to see the USFL Championship game.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Love Canton, great restaurants in there. You know, it's a
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: fun place. We had a great time. But Canton can't
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: hold you know, the market's not there. They're looking for
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: uping and coming markets, markets that are kind of trending
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: up versus trending down. And Columbus, Ohio is a market,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: a great football area, and so that seems to be
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the other one. I mean, you hear maybe Salt Lake City,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: you here, maybe Lexicon, Kentucky. I can tell you right now,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: there is no chance for a team in California. It's
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: too expensive. There's no chance for a team in New York,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: it's too expensive. Okay, Philadelphia, that might be one. You
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: could bring back the Philadelphia the Stars Stars, So you know, Pittsburgh,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, But I mean I think Philadelphia would
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: be better market. I would love you know, I missed
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the Orlando Guardians. I mean, my wife and I are
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: big Disney fans, and we're actually going to Disney in
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. So, and we went to an
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Orlando Guardians game in Orlando and we had a lot
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: of a lot of fun. That's Danny Garcia is one
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: of the co owners of the UFL's background. I haven't
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: heard any of those teams, but I think you can
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: definitely see Seattle's is one hundred percent and it was
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: a great market and great fan base, and I think
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: that would really kind of juice the league. I've said
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: this over and over again. Yeah, somebody said New Jersey.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I think that would be another spot, though I haven't
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: heard New Jersey. It's been basically Columbus, Ohio or Seattle
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: or the two locations. But then they're talking about two
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: more teams the year after that. So twenty twenty six
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you'll get Seattle and say Columbus, Ohio, and then twenty
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: twenty seven you would get another two new teams, which
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I think would be huge for the league. Could you
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: imagine if they put a team in Mexico?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, what's a bride rate? They're experimenting with everything
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: else on the planet, why not do that?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's one of the Danny Garcia and Duyne
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Johnson when they owned the XFL, that was part of
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the thing, was the whole global expansion. What about putting
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: a team in Toronto, you know, a UFL team and
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: see what happens. I mean now that Toronto Argonauts are
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: a great CFL team, but they don't draw like you know,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: some of the other like franchises in in the CFL.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: But I don't know what, but it's the biggest market,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and they are another location that really wants an NFL franchise.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: So would Toronto fans come out like Saint Louis and
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: want to show the NFL that they deserve an NFL franchise.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: And I think I also know this from inside sources
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: that there are NFL people on phone call all the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: time with like when it's all the big people together,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: there is an NFL representative. So they are listening and
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: they're putting their two cents in. They don't have a
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: financial stake in the league, but they're certainly looking for,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: you know, as far as rules stuff goes. And I
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: think location one of the things that here's something that
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: people don't realize that we got to read the tea
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: leaves your media guy, you know how this works. Roger
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Riddell last year that this Super Bowl was talking, somebody
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: brought up international expansion and he was very specific about it,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: and he went on to say that in order for
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: an NFL expansion to work in Europe, you would need
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: to put four franchises in Europe at the same time.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Where are you going to get those players from. You're
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: not going to go get them from all of these
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: other teams you're going to need the UFL. What if
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the UFL was going first to a location in Europe
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: so that the NFL can see as this viable. Hey,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: the UFL just put a team in London and it's
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: crushing it. Just think what we could do if we
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: put it, you know what I mean. Like, So that's
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: my conspiracy theory because the NFL seems a lot more
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: interested in the UFL than it did when Vince McMahon
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: owned it, right and and uh, you know, there's a
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: lot of connections between Fox Sports and Redbord Capital and
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: the NFL. But the fact that there is an NFL
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: representative on all those phone calls, they're not there just
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: to listen to be nice and friendly and give advice.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: They're there because they want something out of it too.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Well, two markets that I so prime, I didn't hear
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: from you, although you mentioned they wouldn't bring a team
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: to California, so prime that Oakland and San Diego would
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: be considered, especially since there I believe San Diego did
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: not do that badly in the USFL, if I remember correctly,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: they lost the team, they could play at the San
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Diego State Stadium and open Well that's another. First, they
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: don't go there because the coliseands, but their old NFL
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: markets that would be hungry for pro football. I'm surprised
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: that they're not being considered. Albeit one may have a
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: bad stay where the A's left and the Raiders dead,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: but the other one kind of surprised me. At least
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: one of those twom get one.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the AAF had a San Diego fleet.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: To tell.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, and that did well too, but
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I heard across the board. You would think that would
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: be a home run, and they're like, nope, Taxes there,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: the laws there, it's just the expense that you pay
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: is just not worth it. You might as well go
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: to San Diego. Another one I heard was Oklahoma City
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: as a potential location too, so you got more, you
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: have friendlier venues. But I don't buy that California thing
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: because they play in they practice in Arlington, so you
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: don't have to worry. But there's all, you know, the
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: paperwork and lawyer piece makes it more complicated for California,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: and they're I've never heard them even going and even
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: thinking about checking a location out. Vegas would be another
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: one too. They tried to get in Vegas.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Well, Vegas being considered for everything so early as matter.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I like what you said about Columbus, though, I really
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: think you're right on the Columbus and Toronto intrigues me.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: It really does. You don't have the NFL, granted, but
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: what's wrong with free football? Who you compete with the
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Toronto Blue.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Jays but they don't start until June exactly.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: That's my point. You just made my point for me,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: So there you go. Toronto would intrigue me. I've been
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: to Toronto a bunch of times. They're good to Ward
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: fans over there, yeh. And Columbus, I think it would
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: be unnatural. You're right, can't thing didn't work out the
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Columbus's idea. You got what the Blue Jackets, and that's
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: it outside of Ohio State football and they play in
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: the fall, So why not be able to go out
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: there and find a sufficient stadium. I don't know where
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: they play in Columbus a little bit. They have the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: soccer team. They could probably put them there too, don't they.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the problem is they don't like the UFL
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: has not liked and even the XFL as much as
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Audi Field is great for games. It really hurts them
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: with the scheduling stuff. So a lot of times you
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: can't play because of the MLS rules of the pitch.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: You know that they the field that they won't allow
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the NFL team to play that weekend. So it like
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: really makes things difficult for getting the schedule out even
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: though they are the perfect Like DC is a fantastic venue.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: It's small enough, you're right on top of everything. Like
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: every seed is really good. You know, the energy is fantastic.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: If you have never been to a UFL game, I
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: would recommend Saint Louis and DC is your top two.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Check check out and you want to go. You like beer,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: you sit in the beer snake section. You'll have a
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: good time.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, says Chicago. Florida didn't seem to work out this time,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: but I think it could work in South Florida if
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you put him at FAU Stadium. I know that the
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Orlando thing didn't work out Tampa. I don't know where
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you really put them in tamp.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: It didn't work out. But Orlando's are they they're redoing
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: that stadium too, right, right, and and so that could
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: be a draw. You know, maybe in twenty twenty seven
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: again Danny Garcia. Her hometown is that Florida area, and
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I think they if she has any kind of poll,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: she would want to add a franchise there. And Orlando
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: is a good market. It didn't do great with the
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Orlando Guardians. Only won one game and they beat my
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: DC defenders by the way. So you know, if they
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: put in a got a good head coach, you know
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: you get hey, bring in Tim Tebow as your head coach.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I mean you could sell some tickets.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I always want I always said that the Dejectivelee
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Jaguars should have brought him into court like quarterback. And
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Edwards, who was a PR guy,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: read that in one of my stories. He loved it.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: He thought it was great. I said, I thought Tim
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Tebow was a big it's idiot because he should have
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: gone to Jacksonville and if he wanted to play quarterback instead,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: he was sold by Rex Ryan to play you'll gimmick Wildcat.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: That'll be another conversation. Sandy EVERLDN suggests Chicago and getting
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: more teams in the Midwest. I mean all you have
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: basically Chicago, yes, and Michigan. But Chicago I think would
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: be great. There's a lot of places that would be great.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: It'll just be interesting to see where they put the
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: piece on the puzzle. And again you alluded to Columbus,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: So there's another mission Midwest town there. You want to
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: try to get a little bit more in Midwest, even
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: though Seattle looks like it's your best representation on the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: West coast. We can talk about expansion. We want to
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: bring out again, We'll do this and talk more about expansion.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I wanted a touch base. But what I'm taking out
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: of you right now is Seattle and Columbus look pretty good.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Toronto looks intriguing. In Mexico will Popola eyebrow. So with
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: that said, let's talk about Darryl Johnson and what and
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Fox of what they meant to the league.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: So when Oliver was the came in to run the
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: XFL for Vince McMahon, he and I've met Oliver Locke
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: a couple of times. He would always say that he
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: would never work for a conglomerate of owners when it
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: comes to a football league, because you need one person
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: to make the call, and that was Vince McMahon. Now,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: in the end they suit each other and he got
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: twenty million, and he said, she said thing. So it
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: didn't work out. Now you move in where it was
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Danny Garcia, the Rock and Redbird Capital. Basically, Redbird Capital
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: is like we've got the checkbook, Danny and the Rock,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: you kind of drive the ship. And that worked out well.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: They spent too much money. Then the USFL come in,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: So now you have all these other you know, you've
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: got Fox. So basically the board of directors of the UFL,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: from what I've heard, is Fox Sports, Redbird Capital, Danny
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: the Rock, even though he supposedly might not really be
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: involved that much, and somebody from there are two people
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: from Redbird Capital, somebody from ESPN, like and Disney or
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: something like that, and that's your kind of brain trust.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Now Fox. From the rumblings behind the scenes is that
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: they're the ones that are basically calling the shots and
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: kind of doing everything. They look at the UFL as
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: a television product, right, and which is fine, and you know,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: the gameplay is good. And I like Moose Johnson a
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: lot because he's he calls it like he sees it.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: He didn't like the kickoff of the XFL. The XFL
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: kickoff went to the NFL and then now he's like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: all right, well, we'll bring it back. He was more
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: of a purist fine, I mean, that's you know, he's
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: totally right in that, you know, handling of this labor situation,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: you know, where he kind of said like, well, we're
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: going to cut you, but I didn't really say we're
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: going to cut you, you know. Kind of the one
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: of the problems with Fox Sports and ESPN is that
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: they're not able to happen too the Amazon money, the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Netflix money, the Apple money. So here's this league that's
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: trying to survive, you know, and they're cutting corners. I mean,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: if Apple can give the MLS, you know, a big contract,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: and granted there's more games and more teams, but like,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: could you imagine UFL games on Netflix and how well
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: that would do compared to like and what is I mean,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: it's so funny to think about in twenty twenty you
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: would be like, oh my gosh, they're on ESPN, they're
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: on Fox Fox Friday Night, they're on ABC. You can't
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: get any better than that. Five years later, it's like
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: that's great, but I kind of would rather be on
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Netflix or Amazon Prime. So that's the problem with them.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: As the ownership group, and they have properties ESPN and
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Fox Sports, FS one, these talk shows, and they never
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: talk about this league. It's always Lebron James and and
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Rodgers Fest, and you know, they never
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: talk about the UFL. So it's like you own these
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: leagues and you never talk about them on your channels.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's thanks streaming obviously that they're
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: doing tonight that UFL got involved. It's scary, Podd. Don't worry.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I expect to bring you on. I'll do everything I
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: can to promote the league. Knowing that I love spring football.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I've had a history, tovered one championship game. It's unbelievable.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: One of my great friends actually got to start as
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: a PR guy for the Pittsford Mullers. Had the name
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: of Bill Keenness. I don't know if you've ever heard the
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: name of Hill and I really did. Friends. Yeah, he
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: ended up being a PR guy, went on to be
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: with the Troy Lant and there Forever, and he was
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: actually voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame and
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: honored there. So they're just supposed to show you that
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a PR guy, whether you're
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: a player whatever, you're going to get your star gear,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: and if you can't align on it, there's a play
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: for you to go and it doesn't matter what position
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: you play. Do you ever talk to Darryl Johnson at all?
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: I actually met him in person a couple of times,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: and you know, you know, when I was like Mark
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Perry from UFL News, I'll oh, like he knew, you know,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: the site and stuff like that. So but yeah, I
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: haven't reached out to try to get any guests on
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: this year per se. I'm kind of in a holding
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: moone too. You mean, here's somebody that I've covered these
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: things for a long time, and I'm I want to
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: be all in, but I'm still like apprehensive because now
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: you've got this labor thing. Now they put in there.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: They have their own facility, their own building now in Arlington, Texas,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: not renting anymore. That's their spot, and which is great,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: and that shows you that the things are moving forward.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: They're already talking about expansion. That's great. This labor thing
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: really kind of throws things for a loop. I think
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: I feel I'm hopeful if the glass is half full,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: we look back. They give the player the raises, they
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: play the season, Saint Louis balls out and they have
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: a great they're able to make a lot of money
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: and Saint Louis, which kind of was the catalyst this
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: kind of say things and then we're off to the
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: races after that.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Called control growth, mark, that's what they're doing.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: And Loose said that in the beginning that they were slow,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: they were slow growth, and they're really following the USFL model.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Still they are, and they're going to survive. I do
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: believe that. I my feeling with Musse, and I'm going
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: to go ahead and release that interview to you probably
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: next week when it comes out on our YouTube channel,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: and you'll have an opportunity to take what you feel
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: you need of it, and hopefully again we'll continue to
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: promote each other as we go on. You're already doing
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: that with our website. We have to content there at
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: to begin with, so anybody that wants to look into it,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I don't make go to our website. But it's called
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: controlled growth. And one thing Moose told me was when
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I asked about the head coaching process, he tries to
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: line up head coaches based on the area that they're in.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: It where it makes sense, which is exactly why he
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: plugged in wizen Hunt over to mephis and that's how
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: he makes a lot of his higher So everything that
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: you've told me Mark has been consistent was exactly what
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: loss Hilla and my twenty five thirty into was great.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: He didn't shy away from anything I asked them, and
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you're gonna find that out once I get that interview
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: to you. I have a few more questions I want
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: to get out to you if I many, please sure,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the players that you're looking forward
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: to see in this season. Excuse me.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm excited to see Abram Smith come back
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: for the DC Defenders. He was there running back. He
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: was the top pick in the XFL draft. He was
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: hurt last year, so we didn't get to see him.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: He had some crazy monster games and of course DC
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Defenders didn't play well. I'm excited to see these new
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks that we talked about at the beginning of the show.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Kellen Mahn. You know, Manny Wilkins getting the opportunity and
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: you know in Saint Louis, like, how do they do it?
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Andy Isabella, He's a wide receiver now, that's playing with
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Saint Louis. So Saint Louis has got Hakeem Butler, Jakor Pearson,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Andy Isabella. You know they could light things up. But
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: again they lost Bruce greg Kowski their offensive coordinator. Wow,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: that's going to change things. And you know, new guys,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: new stars that we don't know of, defensive players that
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: come out of nowhere. The turnover has been kind of mixed.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: There's guys that I was excited about seeing that are
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: no longer with the team. Some of them will wind
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: up in the ELF, some of them moved to Canadian
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Football League. But I'm also just looking for those next
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Who's going to be that breakout star, that surprising team
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: And we'll know pretty early on. If you know, like
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the Memphis Showboats are for real this season.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I would have thought that the biggest
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: drawing card you had was a kicker named Jake Bates
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: going to the National Football League. Yeah, you can't make
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: these stories up if you tried. You really can't get
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: a kicker and then he kicking these things over at
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Ford Field inside Dome and you know what that ends
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: up happening. Jan Campbell doesn't have to go for it.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: On every four down on the planet. He actually has
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: a kicker that yeah, yeah, carry Todd.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: And the wrong problem too, is is so ESPN owns
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: your league. Jake Bates is your biggest story. Why was
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Jake Bates not on Pat McAfee show all the time?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Right right? You know the name that stands out to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: me when it comes to Jake Bates is a movie
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: that many years ago I saw called Gus about the
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Kicking Mule. Do you ever remember that one?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: No, you have to.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Look it up. I know it might be a little
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: bit before. It's not the kicking Mule. They used to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: kick him from eighty to one hundred yards away their best.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I think it was a great comedy. Just take word
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: of this, and Jake Bakes are kicking these things as
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: far as he could kick a game winner from sixties
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: of the year and I was roping to live to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: get this guy. I hated didn't see Matt Prayer go.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: But when you see Jake Bates kicking in as far
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: and allion won fifteen games last year and they need
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: a reliable kicker that helped them win a few of them,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: it's a great story. And that's what again, when I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: tell people about spring football. These are stories and when
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: you come up with great prospects that make NFL rosters,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: this is the intrigue.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is the last seventy yards. Yeah,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: they were juice on them.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Well, so we talk about controlled growth and we have
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: dome s, courts and other domes in Indianapolis. We'll get
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: to that another day, but I'm sure a lot of
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: people will be intrigued of something happened there. We don't know,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: we'll get into expansion. So the Birmingham Sallion dominance over
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: three straight titles too in the USFL. When in the
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: NFL do you see that continually?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean, you know, Alex McGoo came back, they
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: did lose their general manager, and you wonder, I mean,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: we see this in the NFL all the time, where
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: you have, you know, a known entity, you know, offensive
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: coordinator leaves the team and then all of a sudden
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: the team just falls apart. So you know, or GM leaves.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm Baltimore Ravens season ticket hole and Ozzie
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Newsom is the king. You know, you could talk about
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Ray Lewis and you can talk about Ed Reid and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and all these other players. But you know,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: there is no franchise without Ozzie Newsom. And now you
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: know Eric Atacosta I think took over, but he was
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: a disciple of Ozzie Newsom. Does losing the general manager
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: of the Birmingham Stallions a young guy impact the franchise, right,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: and that's that's the biggest storyline. But you got Alex
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Magoo was your USFL MVP and champion. He's back. Now
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? You have the same guys
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: as last year, You're gonna win again unless I mean
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: the league you need. It would be fantastic. At the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: end of the season, it's Birmingham Saint Louis in the Dome,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: both teams maybe one have one loss or whatever, and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: just going at it because there was that last last
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: year's UFL championship was a dud between Birmingham and San Antonio.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: San Antonio's quarterback was injured and he tried to come.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: He tried to play, but then they didn't bring him back.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: So unbelivable. So my question is, aside from the Birmingham Stallions,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: tell me other teams to watch for twenty twenty five.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got I would say you know, of
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: course America's team DC Defenders always. Then we got you know,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: of course Saint Louis BattleHawks, and I think that the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: dark horse. I mean the Brahmas too. They're exciting team,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: but I think you gotta watch out for the show Boats.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Ken wizen Hunt. He's got quarterbacks. You know, they got
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: a good defensive coordinator. I think they could they could
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: shock a lot of people. I think that the league
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: is going to be more competitive than it was last year.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: And I think the only team that's gonna kind of
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: be a dud is going to be uh Houston.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: All right, I need to know if you have any
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: love for the Michigan Panthers or not. I have a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: lot of following in Michigan.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I like the Michigan Panthers. They surprised a lot of
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: people last year. Mike Nolan's a good coach. I wouldn't
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: be surprised that they're in the mix too, you know.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I mean they've made it to the USFL Conference Championship game,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: so they could still They could do that again this
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: year too. But you know, they a little change a quarterback,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: and you never know, a guy gets injured, something happens.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at the DC defenders. I mean they
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: lose Abram Smith. I knew they were in trouble last
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: year because all their wide receivers are playing in the NFL.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: But now we've got all of our wide receivers have
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: come back and even new guys, so you know, I'm
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: excited to see. But again, the labor thing goes, what
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: if you know, seventy five percent of the players decide
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: to play and some of these top line guys from
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Michigan or Birmingham decide, you know what, I'm not going
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: to play, this is not worth it, and then then
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: what happened.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: So that's what she called too bad. Yeah, it's really
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: really too bad. One thing that entered my mind. You
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: say they're playing on Friday nights. Yes, course, that's the
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: nicest part about it during the spring. There's no way
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: you can get away with Friday nights during the fall though, Oh.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. Fox. Part of Fox's deal was is
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: that they want to have sports viewing every Friday night
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: on Fox. So Friday night, you know, college football, Friday
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: night college basketball, and then going into the us UFL
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: and then I think Friday night Baseball or whatever they'll
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: still do until the you know it comes around. So
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: this is part. I mean, the the WWE did really
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: well on Friday nights on Fox, and that's where it's
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: coming from WWE.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: So Steve Reichel, you're going to meet Mark Perry when
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: the time comes to combat sports guys inside the picket.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: I feel it well. My goal is to make it happened.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Quit the heavy on Mark about this for a few
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: months now. I'm looking forward to bringing it back on
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: with some more football people so we can promote this league.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: And I hope and pray I'll keep my fingers crossed
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: that cooler has prevailed in common sense, doesn't get out
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: of control, that this league has a full season, because
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of potential here. We've talked
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: about a lot of areas for our first show tonight,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: which is great in terms of growth and potential of
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: the league I know we have. And that's why football,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: even as we talk about it here on March nineteenth,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: is very popular. I see from our audience is really
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: impressive tonight, and I knew it would be because you're
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: talking about football, and as I was promoting it on
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: my platforms to say I'm talking football. I'm not talking
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Canadian Football League. I'm not talking the NFL. I'm talking
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: to Night of Football League and gets more people. It
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: starts next week for about the NFL draft, but we're
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: talking to the United Football League where they really play
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: and where you find players. To tell you one thing,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, darn well, is rooting for you
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: guys to do well because think of all the times
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: that you miss on the draft and you find guys
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: that have got game reps and film that they're able
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: to bring in. The NFL's rooting for you much much
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: harder than most people even think. Because where these guys
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: going to go after college. And I'll tell you another
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: thing as we get ready to after show, wrap up
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: the show. When I was growing up for many years,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: but you had the World League of American Football League,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: and I know people that actually worked in that league.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: So what Goodell's talking about is he's right. You know,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: you need at least four teams out there to make
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: it worthwhile so that travel isn't so difficult. And then
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: you bring a few out here. There's no way you
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: can have a team like Jackson will go out there,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: for example, that have to bring him back, So it'll
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: never work. The only way to work is the way
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Roger Goodell is talking about it. And with all the
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  Speaker 1: international games that they're playing these days, Mark, you're already
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  Speaker 1: getting a taste of what it's all about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we'll think about an NFL game. Like, what's
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  Speaker 2: the point of putting another team in San Diego or
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  Speaker 2: even Saint Louis. Do you get more bang for your
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: buck putting a franchise? They already have more bang for
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  Speaker 2: your buck putting a couple franchises in Europe. What's going
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  Speaker 2: to make your league bigger?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then again, you've already typed me on Toronto
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  Speaker 1: and maybe Mexico. Yeah, Toronto for sure. Why not?
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  Speaker 2: I would get a lot of hate from those Canadian
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  Speaker 2: football fans, But uh, how.
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  Speaker 1: Can you get hate there? The Argos Do they play
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  Speaker 1: March April?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. And the Rock has relationship with the
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  Speaker 2: owner of the Toronto Argonauts, so.
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  Speaker 1: You know, mostly corporation probably right, So.
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  Speaker 2: I forget the guy's name, but the Rock has hung
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  Speaker 2: out with him, and that's been the talk of the
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  Speaker 2: town sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: So you wonder the Rock has a relationships with a
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: ton of people at the University of Miami graduates. Yeah, while,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: come on, Miami Hurricanes. You imagine they had a team
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  Speaker 1: in Toronto. I know it would do well, and I
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  Speaker 1: hope Porta gets another chance. I really do get another.
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  Speaker 1: I understanding the logic behind not going to California to
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: this expensive, but you've got me intrigued now. I'm still
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: going to have a hard time salivating about Amerthem with
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: the DC Defenders. It's a little bit new to me,
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  Speaker 1: so if it takes me a little while to get
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  Speaker 1: used to it, Mark, please do not hold it against.
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  Speaker 2: I've been saying it since twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I know I might alienate a few Cowboys fans,
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  Speaker 1: but they haven't been America's team lately. They seem to
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: be drama kings. You don't believe me, I Steven A. Smith.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not the one who runs all those depressing facial
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: looks as you have out there. But the one thing
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: about Texas, though, they do have a fair amount of teams,
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  Speaker 1: and I was just hoping that they would bring back
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: the Houston Gambler's name to go back with addition, but they,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: for what I hear, they had the choice of what
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: name they wanted, and they settled on the one that they.
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  Speaker 2: Did, Yeah, because that was selling better and they already
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  Speaker 2: had a foothold in that location from the XFL days.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, everybody thought they were going to just go
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  Speaker 2: with the gamblers, and I don't think it really would
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  Speaker 2: have made a difference. It didn't help keeping the Roughnecks game.
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  Speaker 2: So you could have went with the gamblers and you
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  Speaker 2: would have been fine.
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  Speaker 1: Then great having you on the show tonight. Mark, I
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  Speaker 1: always talked about now I'm descibly happen, and it just
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  Speaker 1: flo to show you about the show here and the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: numbers I'm getting in the feedback I'm getting in the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: chat room is there is a taste for spring football.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: And I think that I'm really thinking about when I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: think of Lewis Ris and I think about King of Spring.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: My gosh, I'm thinking of all the things I'm taken
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: out of the show The King of Spring. Does this
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: guy even have a trademark for it?
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  Speaker 2: I bet you he does. It's the title of his book.
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  Speaker 2: This book comes out I think on Kickoff on the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: twenty eighth, Luis Ferez's book King of Spring. That's the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: title of it. So I would assume he does.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what can I say, I'm gonna be watching it
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  Speaker 1: and I and I told Zerald Wisconsin get me on
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: their media distribution. Let's little and realizing full of that.
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  Speaker 1: At least I have the information coming from you. So
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  Speaker 1: they do it great, they don't. I'm more than happy
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  Speaker 1: to go to my own website that we built from
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• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: these guys have got to say until they get you anyways,
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  Speaker 1: in a matter of a few weeks or so. Yeah, Elia,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Brian Pattis I want freak football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: Well, meanwhile, just everybody else works the thing follows us here,
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  Speaker 1: want to thank Mark Perry for graciously giving us a
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  Speaker 1: You know, the one thing I'm glad that didn't happen,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Mark is when the CFL and the USFL at that
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: time or SFL did not merge. I didn't think that
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: the CFL. I didn't think that could work out. And
• 1:14:51
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• 1:15:02
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• 1:15:05
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• 1:15:09
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• 1:15:14
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• 1:15:16
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• 1:15:18
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's one of the things that people really
• 1:15:25
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• 1:15:29
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• 1:15:36
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• 1:15:37
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• 1:15:44
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• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: were like, oh, we're gonna have like more cameras, Like
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: no one cares about that, but the referee thing. Friends,
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  Speaker 2: fans really like that.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Well, the UFL is very transparent. That's what they want
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  Speaker 1: to do, and that's what I think like about it. Yeah,
• 1:16:02
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• 1:16:04
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