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- 0:03We are back,
- 0:05and we've got so much to talk about,
- 0:06I don't even know what to say.
- 0:30From the gym to the screen, yeah,
- 0:31we cover it all.
- 0:32Midday motivation every time you press
- 0:34call.
- 0:35Lunch with the Clydesdale.
- 0:37Cowboy bring the heat.
- 0:39Crossfit, boobies, music on repeat.
- 0:41Half hour hustle, yeah,
- 0:45we building that brand.
- 0:45Grab a plate, tune in now,
- 0:48you part of the fam.
- 0:53Don't mind me,
- 0:54I just have to make a purchase real
- 0:55quick.
- 0:57New Lego sets out,
- 0:58and I don't want to lose it.
- 0:59no god forbid make sure you made that
- 1:03happen before they sell out because
- 1:04they're probably not making any small
- 1:06bricks to make into bigger bricks to the
- 1:09shape of an f-one helmet yeah yeah i'm
- 1:14i was telling you man i am i
- 1:17am
- 1:18Gosh, I am so addicted.
- 1:20Like I just told you, it's a thing.
- 1:25You put it together.
- 1:26We're messing with Joseph's head.
- 1:28Hold on.
- 1:28What?
- 1:28There we go.
- 1:29Sorry.
- 1:29Is that better, Joseph?
- 1:31Yeah.
- 1:32God forbid.
- 1:32I don't want...
- 1:35Joseph's mind to explode, that'd be bad.
- 1:40Yes, call it an addiction,
- 1:42call it what you want,
- 1:42but at least when you get done with
- 1:44it, you have something like, hey,
- 1:46I just built this thing.
- 1:48Whether it be a Legos or not,
- 1:49who gives a shit,
- 1:50but it's done and you can look at
- 1:52it and go,
- 1:52look at how cool this is.
- 1:56i uh i finished the classic batmobile
- 2:00right before i went to uh syndicate like
- 2:04the adam west TV show version yes sir
- 2:11i haven't even posted a picture it is
- 2:12super cool it is it's about yay big
- 2:17is it really it's a big one barely
- 2:20fits on my shelf is it as big
- 2:21as that sign that's behind you
- 2:24No, no, no, no.
- 2:25Not as big as the sign.
- 2:28Not as big as my McLaren F-One.
- 2:31Maybe about F-One Batmobile.
- 2:36Oh, like a, like a, like a,
- 2:38like a, like a, like a, like a,
- 2:39like a, like a, like a, like a,
- 2:40like a,
- 2:42no no it's the the new it's like
- 2:45a twenty twenty four the car that raced
- 2:48that won the the championship twenty
- 2:49twenty five oh okay not a mclaren f-one
- 2:53but a mclaren f-one car yeah got it
- 2:56i'm a car i am i am
- 2:59I've been addicted to cars since I saw
- 3:01Smokey and the Bandit when I was a
- 3:02little kid.
- 3:04Sports cars, name it, whatever.
- 3:08But F-One racing has never appealed to me
- 3:11very much for whatever reason.
- 3:15You need to watch Drive to Survive.
- 3:17I get it.
- 3:18Watch Drive to Survive,
- 3:19and now I'm addicted to F-One.
- 3:21yeah uh and i understand that i did
- 3:24watch uh i say did what like it
- 3:26matters unnecessarily but um oh not the
- 3:31new f-one movie that just came out with
- 3:33uh but the one about the one with
- 3:37uh with thor and the german dude
- 3:44Anyway, true story.
- 3:47F one from like back in the sixties
- 3:48and whatnot.
- 3:49Okay.
- 3:50I think I remember,
- 3:51I know what you're talking about.
- 3:52I just can't remember the title either.
- 3:53I can't remember how to save my life,
- 3:54but it was outstanding.
- 3:57Like really, really good.
- 3:58I love stuff like that.
- 4:01Joseph Vermeer's son just took two weeks
- 4:03to build the Titanic.
- 4:04That's a massive set.
- 4:06Is he going to break it in half
- 4:07and sink it to the bottom of the
- 4:09North Sea now?
- 4:12He's at somebody's pool doing it right
- 4:13now.
- 4:14Rush.
- 4:15Thank you, Tristan.
- 4:19When I won the games,
- 4:20I bought myself a Lego R-II D-II.
- 4:25that's cool i'm gonna tell you what i
- 4:27would what i would buy right now if
- 4:29i had five hundred dollars to just blow
- 4:31on like ridiculous shit have you seen the
- 4:35iron man mask that you put on that
- 4:37like yep i would aggravate the ever-living
- 4:43shit out of my wife and like just
- 4:45roll into the house with it oh those
- 4:47things look so cool and they're like voice
- 4:50activated
- 4:52So you can just put it on until
- 4:54it closes up or whatnot.
- 4:56Yeah, a hundred percent.
- 4:58I would spend, if I had four dollars,
- 4:59just blow out one hundred percent by one
- 5:02of those.
- 5:04Yeah.
- 5:05Good investment, says Joseph.
- 5:07Joseph understands.
- 5:09So before we dive into the CrossFit stuff,
- 5:12my wife and I sat down and watched
- 5:13a new show last night called Maximum
- 5:17Pleasure Guaranteed.
- 5:21didn't know this is the route we were
- 5:23going to take this morning but all right
- 5:24here we go so here's the premise of
- 5:26the show and that this is what sucked
- 5:28me in and the first episode did not
- 5:30disappoint it's a woman who's recently
- 5:33divorced her husband gets the house the
- 5:36whole nine she's moving into an apartment
- 5:40she's feeling isolated so she hires a
- 5:45person online to have online sex with but
- 5:49they really just talk a lot
- 5:51They just hang out.
- 5:53Now, they do the other stuff too.
- 5:56Show it on the show,
- 5:57but that's the premise, right?
- 6:01During one of their interactions,
- 6:05someone comes into the guy's apartment,
- 6:07grabs him, attacks him,
- 6:10beats the shit out of him,
- 6:13and now she's a witness to all this,
- 6:15but she doesn't even know his real name.
- 6:18As you do.
- 6:21And then they call her saying they want
- 6:24fifty thousand dollars or they're going to
- 6:26kill him.
- 6:28Jesus Christ.
- 6:29Is that a movie or a series?
- 6:30Series.
- 6:31Got it.
- 6:32That was episode one.
- 6:36And I'm leaving it there.
- 6:36There's a lot more that happens in episode
- 6:38one.
- 6:39But that's how it kicks off.
- 6:40What?
- 6:41Apple TV.
- 6:42Apple TV.
- 6:44Apple TV.
- 6:46tux i get dude people tell me cool
- 6:48stuff about like oh i just saw this
- 6:49new show man this happened what was it
- 6:53on apple tv that's the one thing i
- 6:55don't have all right appreciate it high
- 6:56fives all around right along uh omar the
- 6:58name is maximum pleasure guaranteed
- 7:03guaranteed yeah it is uh apple tv's been
- 7:08killing it lately
- 7:10they have a whole bunch of good stuff
- 7:11and there's much stuff on there i would
- 7:12love to see i i'm probably watching more
- 7:15on it than any other streaming service
- 7:17right now the uh
- 7:21the the monsters series like godzilla and
- 7:25and whatnot is that on there like that
- 7:27i would love to check out i love
- 7:28that kind of stuff ted lasso's coming back
- 7:30this summer i've heard yep i heard ted
- 7:32lasso's coming back my daughter actually
- 7:35loves godzilla big fan big fan um and
- 7:40more so uh actually king kong we watched
- 7:43king kong versus godzilla no less than six
- 7:45times with her like it's it's insane
- 7:49considering she's eight and a girl
- 7:52she loves king kong um so i would
- 7:54love to be able to show her that
- 7:58but i've heard that's good helson um we
- 8:04also just finished up the last thing he
- 8:05told me margot's having money problems uh
- 8:10both great and then shrinking and ted
- 8:13lasso are like epic all time
- 8:16I tell you what we watched last night,
- 8:17or finished up watching, I should say,
- 8:19on Netflix is...
- 8:26worst x ever i believe it's called
- 8:28something along those lines it's true so
- 8:31it's like true crime stuff because my wife
- 8:33is into that concept my wife is so
- 8:36into that stuff i try to avoid it
- 8:38dude the first episode is it involves a
- 8:43dude that ended up going on a uh
- 8:47day fiance
- 8:49Like, towards the...
- 8:51But while he was being...
- 8:54He got arrested for beating up his
- 8:57fiancée.
- 8:59This is the third time this has happened,
- 9:00FYI.
- 9:01Like, his wife, first wife...
- 9:05assaulted her,
- 9:06assaulted and I think raped,
- 9:09and then second wife assaulted for sure,
- 9:12was working on the third one,
- 9:13had her engaged and whatnot,
- 9:15beat the ever-living shit out of her one
- 9:17night for no apparent reason.
- 9:19They didn't get in an argument,
- 9:20none of that stuff.
- 9:23During that period of time,
- 9:27Right up until right up until or right
- 9:29before I say he beat her and she
- 9:31got away from him.
- 9:33He was also in an online relationship with
- 9:36his other chick and was getting doing all
- 9:37the things to be on ninety day fiance.
- 9:41Like at the same time, got arrested,
- 9:43got bailed out, was on the show.
- 9:48they didn't get wind of that at all
- 9:50and then i guess they ended up eventually
- 9:52pulling him once they figured out like all
- 9:54his history and whatnot and is now in
- 9:56jail for like thirty something years but
- 9:58it was an insane story dude insane story
- 10:05uh do you read with godzira
- 10:08Look, it's Godzilla.
- 10:10No, it's not Godzilla.
- 10:15For copyright purposes, it's not Godzilla.
- 10:17But we should still run like it's
- 10:18Godzilla.
- 10:20I have not watched.
- 10:21I need to watch those again.
- 10:25Well,
- 10:25let's dive into a little bit of CrossFit.
- 10:28So Sunday night,
- 10:29I made a comment on the show because
- 10:32Hillard made the comment that his behind
- 10:34the scenes were the best ever.
- 10:37He did say that out loud.
- 10:38And I made a comment that I'm tired
- 10:41of the, like,
- 10:43I misread it as competition between the
- 10:49two camps and more of this infighting
- 10:51thing.
- 10:52So I made a comment about it and
- 10:54then ended up texting with Hiller a ton
- 10:59last night about the whole thing.
- 11:04And I misread it.
- 11:05I'm just super sensitive to this fighting
- 11:07back and forth stuff.
- 11:09Well,
- 11:09because we get it from both sides and
- 11:10people are like,
- 11:12I can't tell you how many people told
- 11:13me when they met me in person in
- 11:17Birmingham how happy they were that we do
- 11:19not get involved with that shit.
- 11:23Like, we're just like, like,
- 11:24we watch it from both sides.
- 11:25I was like, dude,
- 11:26we watch it just like the rest of
- 11:27y'all.
- 11:28Like, we're like this.
- 11:29I'm like, oh, okay, that just happened.
- 11:30And then, oh, okay, that just happened.
- 11:32And like, we go on about our business.
- 11:35I did also make a comment that DB
- 11:37yelled at Ortega and Dents used it.
- 11:40Yeah, that is a fact.
- 11:41And I was wrong, Jonathan,
- 11:43because DB even said in the behind the
- 11:45scenes that Hiller made that she was
- 11:47yelling at her judge.
- 11:48Yeah.
- 11:48So you are off the hook now.
- 11:50And I apologize that that got clipped.
- 11:56However,
- 11:58what I want to say about the Hiller
- 11:59thing is it is phenomenal.
- 12:02His behind the scenes is really good,
- 12:07is probably the best piece of content I've
- 12:10seen.
- 12:10And the reason that is is because there
- 12:16were so many storylines from that
- 12:18syndicate crown.
- 12:20You had Saxon and Haley with the chips
- 12:22on their shoulder trying to make the
- 12:24comeback.
- 12:25You had the devastation of Nate and Janie
- 12:28Chevery, and he captured that.
- 12:31You had the rollercoaster weekend from DB.
- 12:36You had Austin pulling an Austin.
- 12:45And then you had Ty and Lydia quietly
- 12:49just doing their thing.
- 12:53and almost got lost in the shuffle because
- 12:56of all the other storylines around it.
- 12:58Because there was a lot happening, yeah.
- 13:00And so it did turn out to be
- 13:02like maybe the best piece of content I've
- 13:05ever seen and definitely by far the best
- 13:08piece I've seen in the last five years.
- 13:10Yeah.
- 13:15But what I do want to say is
- 13:16it also highlights that when you have
- 13:19drama at an event,
- 13:22storylines become greater sure but it it
- 13:29it accentuates it there's already a
- 13:32storyline going on and you just add in
- 13:34a little bit of okay let's add in
- 13:36a little bit of drama and then all
- 13:37of a sudden it's it's magnified right five
- 13:40or ten times so if we went back
- 13:42to a one and done scenario
- 13:46These storylines would amplify, right?
- 13:50Way higher.
- 13:50How devastated Janie and Nate were,
- 13:53and they've got another chance.
- 13:56Yeah.
- 13:57Imagine if they didn't.
- 13:58A hundred percent.
- 14:01And Saxon even says it in the behind
- 14:03the scenes.
- 14:03Like he comes from a world where you
- 14:06had to bring your best on that weekend
- 14:09or you wait another year.
- 14:12And that's why he does the visualization
- 14:15and tries to just be amongst him,
- 14:17just with himself in the back.
- 14:18And like all that stuff that came out
- 14:22was really, really good.
- 14:23And I just want to publicly apologize for
- 14:25saying that to Hiller because,
- 14:29and I use this analogy, right?
- 14:32T.O.
- 14:33told you he was the greatest wide receiver
- 14:35in the NFL.
- 14:36You didn't have to ask him.
- 14:37Barry Sanders let everybody else say he
- 14:40was the greatest running back in the NFL.
- 14:43Absolutely.
- 14:44Both are okay.
- 14:45Yeah.
- 14:46You may prefer one over the other.
- 14:49It's two different approaches.
- 14:50Right.
- 14:53Cause I said to Andrew,
- 14:54like I'm willing to say if it's great,
- 14:57I'm willing to say that was the best,
- 15:00best piece ever,
- 15:02but it's also okay for him to say
- 15:04that he's proud of it and it,
- 15:06and he believes it's the best ever.
- 15:09When I was way back when getting to
- 15:14be a crane operator,
- 15:16one of my bosses told me when we
- 15:18were driving by and said,
- 15:20don't ever brag on yourself.
- 15:23And it kind of stuck with me because
- 15:24when you get good enough,
- 15:26other people will do it for you.
- 15:27You ain't got to worry about it.
- 15:29Just keep your head down, keep working,
- 15:31keep moving along.
- 15:31And sooner or later,
- 15:33you're going to get recognition whether
- 15:34you want it or not.
- 15:35So I agree with that category.
- 15:39I find my way.
- 15:40But I also understand coming out and
- 15:42saying, if nothing else,
- 15:44saying this is the best piece of content
- 15:46I've ever done.
- 15:49And standing alone from everybody else's.
- 15:53I know for a fact that's the best
- 15:54one that I've ever done,
- 15:55and if you watch it,
- 15:56you will probably agree with me, right?
- 15:58And I think that's probably a lot more
- 16:00along the lines of what he's saying.
- 16:02Maybe he's not.
- 16:03Maybe he's looking at it and going, no,
- 16:05no,
- 16:05this is the best one that's ever been
- 16:06put out.
- 16:08I mean,
- 16:09it was a long back and forth we
- 16:10had last night.
- 16:11Yeah.
- 16:13Long for me.
- 16:14I'm not a wordy guy when I'm not
- 16:16on the air, but...
- 16:20He made some real...
- 16:21The guy works his ass off to make
- 16:24content, to make it good,
- 16:26to make it the best.
- 16:27And if you're proud of it,
- 16:28be proud of it.
- 16:30You should be.
- 16:31And I shouldn't have jumped to judgment
- 16:34the other night.
- 16:34That's all I'm saying.
- 16:42But I am sick of the infighting stuff.
- 16:45I mean...
- 16:47dense ended again with a shot this morning
- 16:50why why do we need the shots it's
- 16:53it's just stupid i will say this about
- 16:57jenny it's what she does but she can
- 17:01do that with the drama in the space
- 17:03without making it personal
- 17:06I think what Sten's saying,
- 17:09drama drives clicks and views.
- 17:11It's going to get you more attention,
- 17:14get you more of that stuff.
- 17:15So I'm not mad at it.
- 17:17It's not something I would do,
- 17:18but I'm not mad at her for doing
- 17:19it because that's just what she does.
- 17:22And she's going to say what's on her
- 17:23mind.
- 17:24The stuff she just does is great.
- 17:28Why do you have to add that piece
- 17:29at the end?
- 17:29That's her.
- 17:33All right.
- 17:35So be it.
- 17:36I mean,
- 17:37I watch every dense update that comes out.
- 17:39I do too.
- 17:39I watch just about every content in the
- 17:41space.
- 17:42I want the content.
- 17:44I just don't need it.
- 17:46I personally don't need the extra.
- 17:49It's what it comes with.
- 17:51It's like ordering something at a
- 17:55restaurant and you get what you ordered
- 17:57and you get something else that you know
- 17:58you're not going to eat,
- 17:59but it's just there with it.
- 18:02What are you going to do?
- 18:03That's what came with it.
- 18:09So anyway,
- 18:10I see people saying unsubscribing and
- 18:12blocking.
- 18:13Please don't block us.
- 18:14Please like and subscribe to the channel.
- 18:16We really appreciate it.
- 18:19We had almost fifteen hundred views on
- 18:22Sunday night with only three thousand
- 18:24subscribers.
- 18:24It's amazing.
- 18:26It's amazing engagement with all of that.
- 18:29And I love all of you for that.
- 18:32But it'd be nice to get a little
- 18:33bit of the subscriber rate up a little
- 18:34bit higher.
- 18:36so like and subscribe folks like and
- 18:41subscribe i can't it's super easy as corey
- 18:44says it's free it's just free it is
- 18:47free i mean it's going to cost you
- 18:48this right if you if it did look
- 18:52if this was not working use that one
- 18:54use this one like it doesn't really matter
- 18:56honestly just pick one yeah you know what
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- 19:14Gosh, I feel so rested.
- 19:16And it's because I took my third Z
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- 19:35I don't know if y'all know this or
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- 19:37but fifteen percent is a pretty
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- 19:41Yeah, it is.
- 19:48I don't watch or I get all my
- 19:49info from this Clydesdale.
- 19:52Nice.
- 19:52If that's the case, Shannon,
- 19:53you are getting a wide variety of
- 19:55information.
- 19:57Yeah, we are.
- 19:58We're all over the place.
- 20:05Y'all are the most watchable in the space.
- 20:07Seconds to Hiller.
- 20:10Okay, I'll take that.
- 20:11Hey, number two works harder.
- 20:12We've already had this discussion.
- 20:16Yep.
- 20:16Yep.
- 20:17What else do I want to talk about?
- 20:18Someone got a two-year suspension for
- 20:20being corrupt with their judging.
- 20:24I'm excited.
- 20:26I am legitimately excited.
- 20:28Danny Camacho received a two-year ban,
- 20:32and he has competed in the WFP.
- 20:34He has competed at the elite level, and...
- 20:38he is no longer allowed to compete for
- 20:40two years because he said he was the
- 20:43judge for a master's athlete.
- 20:46And he was not, well,
- 20:48he was not qualified.
- 20:49He did not have his level.
- 20:50His own had expired.
- 20:56So that's crazy to me.
- 21:00It's good.
- 21:01Let's let's stop the madness.
- 21:05but you gotta stop the bleeding at some
- 21:06point and that's what it's gonna take to
- 21:09like hey let's send a message suspend this
- 21:11dude for two years i want to see
- 21:13what happens to the masters athlete who
- 21:17had someone
- 21:19who wasn't that someone show up on camera
- 21:22and say they were that someone yes like
- 21:26i want to see those people get the
- 21:27suspension as well it probably doesn't
- 21:29have the impact on them because other than
- 21:32the masters athlete they're not they're
- 21:35probably not elite level no but still it's
- 21:39not the point
- 21:41Are we only publishing elites?
- 21:42No.
- 21:43If this is a community event and you
- 21:45are part of the community and you came
- 21:47out and did something that was wrong,
- 21:49then you deserve to be punished.
- 21:51You came out and you do.
- 21:55Anybody who's done online the past couple
- 21:57of years with the two judges and this
- 22:00one has to have this test and this
- 22:02one has to have that test and whatnot,
- 22:04I can tell you from experience,
- 22:05it's not an easy thing to coordinate at
- 22:07all.
- 22:08I understand.
- 22:09But that does not mean that you get
- 22:10to circumvent it just because, well,
- 22:13I just want to do it because I
- 22:14qualified and I know I'm not going to
- 22:15make the games and whatnot.
- 22:17I don't care.
- 22:18The rules are still the rules.
- 22:22They're there for a reason.
- 22:25You don't get to just go, well,
- 22:27I'll just act like this guy is somebody
- 22:29else just because you don't like him or
- 22:31you can't.
- 22:34If you don't, you don't get to play.
- 22:37I mean,
- 22:37I don't know what else to tell you.
- 22:38If you can't follow the rules,
- 22:40you don't get to play.
- 22:43Wayne said there was an affiliate owner
- 22:45involved in that one.
- 22:47Then something should be done.
- 22:49Then, yeah.
- 22:52The affiliate owner was stupid enough to
- 22:54sign off on it, then he's stupid.
- 22:58Like, I don't know what to tell you.
- 23:01It's idiotic.
- 23:03You should know better.
- 23:05Yeah.
- 23:07I want to say that more than Camacho
- 23:09got punished on this.
- 23:10Yeah.
- 23:12I have, I had my, this, okay,
- 23:15let me see.
- 23:21The athlete also received a two year ban.
- 23:23Yep.
- 23:30So it was Camacho and the athlete.
- 23:37And the athlete actually finished fourth
- 23:40in the women's fifty five to fifty nine
- 23:42division in the twenty twenty six CrossFit
- 23:45Open.
- 23:46She followed that up with a fourth place
- 23:48finish in quarterfinals.
- 23:51Her online semifinal scores have been
- 23:54since removed.
- 23:59It says all three individuals were not
- 24:01permitted to participate in any CrossFit
- 24:03Games Seasons event.
- 24:04So there was someone else too.
- 24:06Probably the second judge.
- 24:11Both judge...
- 24:20Yeah.
- 24:20Camacho was the floor judge.
- 24:23The head judge got suspended,
- 24:25but he's not named.
- 24:27And Nira Aregi got suspended as well.
- 24:33Aregi.
- 24:35So, yeah.
- 24:39Sucks to suck.
- 24:43So the other thing I wanted to talk
- 24:44about is we have these online semifinals
- 24:46coming up.
- 24:48And we were just trying to name names
- 24:49off the top of our head of who
- 24:51still needs to qualify on Sunday night.
- 24:54And the spin actually put out a list.
- 24:57I did.
- 24:58I wanted to look at that this morning.
- 24:59I just haven't had enough time.
- 25:02And it's crazy, dude.
- 25:04So the first part of the list are
- 25:06people that were games athletes last year.
- 25:10So you've got Medeiros, Mertens, Lowen,
- 25:13Gracie Walton,
- 25:15while Pat Vellner not last year,
- 25:17but former.
- 25:18And then others who were Harry Lightfoot,
- 25:23Chris Ibarra, Colin Bossard, Nick Matthew,
- 25:26Yonikoski, Enrico Zanoni, Jorge Fernandez,
- 25:30Isaac Newman, Bill Leahy, Peter Ellis,
- 25:33Henrique Moyera, and Tiago Luzes.
- 25:37have yet to qualify on the men's side.
- 25:39On the women's side, Raptus,
- 25:41Claudia Gluck, Fisa Goffi, Lexi Neely,
- 25:45Sydney McElishan, Hattie Canio,
- 25:48Mariana Meza, Maria Quintero, Emily DeRoy,
- 25:53and Luisa Marquez.
- 25:56And then you go further into the people
- 26:00that just didn't qualify yet.
- 26:02Emily Rolfe, Guy Mejeros, Sidney Wells,
- 26:06Spencer Pancheck, Nate Ackerman,
- 26:08Quinn Robinson, Janie Chevery,
- 26:11Reese Littlewood, Erica Folo,
- 26:13and Tom Kingdon.
- 26:18And they're only taking seven.
- 26:19And the only seven tickets on each side.
- 26:24That is going to be a bloodbath.
- 26:27It's going to be a wild weekend.
- 26:30People are going to bury themselves.
- 26:33And the disappointing piece of this is
- 26:36seven tickets for what?
- 26:38Fourteen, fifteen on each side,
- 26:41maybe more.
- 26:43And we don't get to see any of
- 26:44it.
- 26:44Yeah, that sucks.
- 26:47We don't get to watch any of this
- 26:49drama take place.
- 26:51No,
- 26:51you're going to get to see video
- 26:53secondhand.
- 26:58It just, that's,
- 27:00you make the most dramatic part of your
- 27:02season.
- 27:04The games aren't the dramatic part.
- 27:06It's just making the champion, right?
- 27:09And half the people are just excited to
- 27:11be there.
- 27:13At the semifinal level,
- 27:14everybody's dying to get there.
- 27:18And we're missing that.
- 27:20We're completely missing it.
- 27:22Because it is an online competition.
- 27:26And all of the drama was placed right
- 27:28there where nobody could see it.
- 27:31This is the whole men will die for
- 27:32points part of it.
- 27:35Trying to get there.
- 27:36Because let's be honest,
- 27:37what are they taking, twenty this year?
- 27:40Twenty men, twenty women?
- 27:41Thirty.
- 27:42Thirty and thirty and thirty.
- 27:43So let's say the top fifteen,
- 27:47everybody's going to know who the top
- 27:48fifteen are.
- 27:49A couple of outliers here and there are
- 27:50going to be competing for podium spots.
- 27:52And the rest of them are going to
- 27:53be competing because they're there.
- 27:56Not to say that they're not going to
- 27:57be trying to do their very best by
- 27:58any stretch of the imagination,
- 28:00but it is going to be a seven
- 28:03to ten person race for at least the
- 28:05first couple of days.
- 28:06And then once the leaderboard shakes out,
- 28:07you're going to have a pretty good idea
- 28:08of what's going to happen for us since
- 28:09then and the rest of the people.
- 28:11But like you said, getting there,
- 28:15that's way more, that's way different.
- 28:19way different just trying to get there it
- 28:21is a incredible struggle to try to fight
- 28:23your way into getting to the games and
- 28:26then once you're there you're there like
- 28:30holy shit now i can call myself a
- 28:31games athlete yeah i um i'm so
- 28:36disappointed because when you watch like
- 28:39killers behind the scenes the the what it
- 28:41meant to those people because it was the
- 28:43last in-person weekend yeah
- 28:47elevated it to a certain level and now
- 28:50we're going to like another level that
- 28:53nobody's even going to see dude just go
- 28:55back and watch nate ackerman after the
- 29:00last event gene every at the end of
- 29:02that just sobbing yeah
- 29:06Nate looked like somebody had just told
- 29:08him that his grandpa died.
- 29:09Like, he was just sitting there,
- 29:11staring off into space,
- 29:13completely disconnected from what was
- 29:14going on around him.
- 29:15Like,
- 29:16you probably could have had a whole
- 29:17conversation with him,
- 29:18and he wouldn't have known what was going
- 29:19on.
- 29:21Did you watch the last episode of Hiller's
- 29:23thing yet?
- 29:24No.
- 29:25So there's a scene where,
- 29:29right after the handstand walk,
- 29:31where Nate gets no-repped?
- 29:33Mm-hmm.
- 29:34he's,
- 29:35he goes to the back right off the
- 29:37floor, make a left right there,
- 29:40just laying flat out on the cold cement
- 29:43and like lays there till Dom comes and
- 29:47picks him up.
- 29:48Yeah.
- 29:48Hey man, get up.
- 29:52It like,
- 29:54I thought the sitting on the cooler was
- 29:56rough.
- 29:58That laying on the cement was about,
- 30:00I mean, I wanted to cry.
- 30:02Yeah.
- 30:09Yeah, man,
- 30:09that was rough watching Nate after that
- 30:11event.
- 30:13Heart-wrenching to see that, but man,
- 30:15when one person wins,
- 30:16another person loses.
- 30:18Somebody's got to.
- 30:19But that sport,
- 30:21and that's what makes it great.
- 30:23And that's the piece we're missing.
- 30:28It's so damn frustrating.
- 30:35I feel like we're taking a lot from
- 30:37the last chance qualifier.
- 30:41Yeah.
- 30:42Nate Ackerman's journey missing by one
- 30:44place from NorCal.
- 30:45Then again at Syndicate.
- 30:47Man, I hope he gets through online.
- 30:51I am worried about the kid.
- 30:53Like the way he,
- 30:55as despondent as he looked after that
- 30:58event and after the overall competition
- 31:01was rough.
- 31:03Yeah.
- 31:04Can he bounce back in two weeks?
- 31:07I certainly hope so.
- 31:10there's a scene in that where dom gets
- 31:12emotional man it is i am telling you
- 31:16the the emotions invoked in the last
- 31:18episode are insane that's the only one i
- 31:21haven't seen yet so i am one hundred
- 31:25percent and agree with daniel last year's
- 31:28qualifier two people two two dudes two
- 31:32chicks last two spots everything else
- 31:35should be in person
- 31:43My feeling is we don't even need a
- 31:45last chance qualifier,
- 31:47but if we're going to have it.
- 31:49And when we had it in the past,
- 31:51it was one.
- 31:52Yeah.
- 31:53One female, one male got a chance.
- 31:56That's it.
- 32:00I would even say to do, uh,
- 32:05like they did in when we actually got
- 32:08to see everybody do the online part,
- 32:10the part of the games, right.
- 32:13They said,
- 32:14judges and camera crews like crossfit sent
- 32:16people out there you don't even do that
- 32:19with seven people like that's a bit much
- 32:22but if it's only two then everybody still
- 32:25gets to see and you get to get
- 32:26involved in invested in what uh what
- 32:29actually what is actually going on a whole
- 32:31lot more than just seeing scores go up
- 32:33on a leaderboard and watching people's
- 32:34videos back after the fact
- 32:43Shana says he has to.
- 32:44That is also sport.
- 32:47Needs to learn to handle the mental side.
- 32:50I agree with you, Shana.
- 32:52I just, after watching him, I don't,
- 32:59I hope he has the resilience to do
- 33:00it.
- 33:02Yeah.
- 33:02Well,
- 33:03I think he's in good hands with Dom
- 33:05for sure to try to kind of,
- 33:07you know,
- 33:07help to manage that and work through the
- 33:10entire thing.
- 33:13I'd be a lot more worried, concerned.
- 33:16I mean, I say worried.
- 33:17I don't know a kid enough to be
- 33:18worried.
- 33:19But I'd be a lot more concerned if
- 33:21he was, you know,
- 33:23I'm just going to do this program by
- 33:24myself.
- 33:25And he's just a freaking nature fit type
- 33:27stuff and kind of getting there.
- 33:28But I think he's got the right guidance
- 33:30behind him to kind of try to navigate
- 33:31it.
- 33:33Daniel says, that's being too smart,
- 33:35Scott.
- 33:35Slow down.
- 33:41Yeah, I...
- 33:43probably no way this is our ideas because
- 33:44we're entirely too smart i think that's
- 33:46what uh yeah none of our ideas ever
- 33:49make it to the to the mainstream because
- 33:54we're entirely too intelligent so on
- 34:00another another topic did you watch any of
- 34:05peter and adrian this morning
- 34:07i have not i was at physical therapy
- 34:09all morning uh i saw it come live
- 34:11but i need to i love me some
- 34:13adrian monweiler and peter so my
- 34:16suggestion is jump to the forty five
- 34:18minute mark oh okay they talk they start
- 34:22talking about mad fit and all of the
- 34:24stuff that happened there and all of the
- 34:26goings on because adrian was competing
- 34:29there yes and adrian has he does not
- 34:32pull punches
- 34:35He actually did.
- 34:36He actually said there are other things
- 34:38and other conversations he had that he
- 34:40would not share on the air.
- 34:43So when you hear what he does share,
- 34:46it makes you wonder, holy shit,
- 34:48what is he holding back?
- 34:52But it is...
- 34:56There's so much that happened at MadFit.
- 35:00I don't even know how to sort it
- 35:01out in my head listening to that
- 35:03conversation.
- 35:04About to come off that.
- 35:05And apparently there was no limit to the
- 35:09amount of appeals that happened.
- 35:11And Mundweiler said like,
- 35:13it is the longest line he's ever seen
- 35:16for appeals at an event because,
- 35:19and he never saw any of them get
- 35:21denied.
- 35:23It's like they granted every single
- 35:25appeal.
- 35:27So once that trend started,
- 35:29everybody was appealing everything.
- 35:32Why wouldn't you?
- 35:35Hey,
- 35:36they're giving out free scores over here
- 35:38at this table.
- 35:41Okay,
- 35:41I'm going to go get my shit adjusted.
- 35:43And I think it was Callum Clements
- 35:47appealed –
- 35:49something and because they made him do too
- 35:51many of something i don't even remember
- 35:52what again there was so much stuff to
- 35:55sort it all out in my head is
- 35:57i'm still processing right but essentially
- 35:59they said well what do you want your
- 36:01score to be and he said i want
- 36:03twenty seconds back and they said well we
- 36:07can't give you twenty but we'll give you
- 36:09ten it's done it's not a negotiation dude
- 36:16Like, how the, how?
- 36:20He just sat there.
- 36:23He sits up there bartering for points.
- 36:24I mean, but it's all right.
- 36:29Look, just give me twenty seconds.
- 36:33Best I can do is ten.
- 36:35Well,
- 36:35and that's where the point five comes in.
- 36:38Because they they gave him back ten
- 36:41seconds.
- 36:43And that's where the point five is.
- 36:47So it's not points.
- 36:48It was actually seconds.
- 36:50And it's the only time on the entire
- 36:52scoreboard that isn't dot zero zero.
- 36:58Holy smokes.
- 37:00And so Peter actually made a great point.
- 37:04Either one of two things happened.
- 37:06They gave him ten seconds back and they
- 37:08looked at the judge's card and his time
- 37:11actually was point five and they just
- 37:13added ten.
- 37:19Okay,
- 37:19here we got a little clarification there.
- 37:23Or they saw the result was going to
- 37:25be a tie,
- 37:27and they gave Callum the .
- 37:29five to get him over the tie.
- 37:31Yeah, just to eliminate the tie.
- 37:33So apparently he did fifteen extra double
- 37:34honors on a buy-in,
- 37:36so they gave him an extra rep of
- 37:38the sandbag, which is an AMRAP.
- 37:41So that's a different story.
- 37:43Oh, okay.
- 37:44Again, there's so much that happened.
- 37:48so much that happened that it's really
- 37:51hard to sort it all out bro i
- 37:54gotta watch it all right so yeah he
- 37:58got ten seconds back on the sandbag
- 38:01workout he was given an a rep that
- 38:04he did not complete yeah that's yeah i
- 38:11like this uh so much that describes it
- 38:14exactly
- 38:17like adrian just kept and peter tried to
- 38:20jump to like another story new and i'm
- 38:23not done here let me finish and then
- 38:25we'll jump to what you're talking about
- 38:29jeez okay and that happened like three or
- 38:31four times um i will that's next on
- 38:36my watch list i'm gonna skip i'm gonna
- 38:38postpone dents and i'll pull that up
- 38:40instead the other the other thing is they
- 38:44used a scoring system
- 38:46where the point differential between
- 38:52places was only two points.
- 38:56So essentially,
- 38:59whatever happened on the first event,
- 39:01everything was going to kind of stay that
- 39:03way because there wasn't enough gap
- 39:06between the points to make up any ground,
- 39:10right?
- 39:10Well, no,
- 39:11you remember Matt Fraser went a year,
- 39:12they,
- 39:12they changed the point system up to where
- 39:14it was like a three point difference or
- 39:16a six point difference.
- 39:17And he was like, do all this work,
- 39:19bust my hump.
- 39:20What do I got?
- 39:21Three point lead or six point lead,
- 39:23whatever it was, something stupid.
- 39:25And I was like, man, that's like,
- 39:28if you,
- 39:28maybe if you got events going on,
- 39:30I can understand that.
- 39:31Cause then you might be able to get
- 39:32some separation after you get going for a
- 39:34little bit, but not for five or six,
- 39:38whatever it was.
- 39:40Bruh.
- 39:41No, thank you.
- 39:41That's insane.
- 39:42Yeah,
- 39:42that was two thousand nineteen because of
- 39:44so many people.
- 39:47I can I can now read Vicky because
- 39:50that's I mean,
- 39:50I got I got so many out of
- 39:56that.
- 39:56Imagine lose the semis in the future.
- 39:58Well, and here's the here's the piece.
- 40:01Again, if true,
- 40:04CrossFit had representation at the event.
- 40:08yona koski went to talk to them because
- 40:12he wants the sport to be better he
- 40:14wasn't trying to get a spot or take
- 40:17callum's spot or any of those things and
- 40:21apparently the the crossfit representative
- 40:24was not nice to yona was rude was
- 40:30pompous and that that is directly from
- 40:33adrian wow
- 40:39I would never understand that.
- 40:43So if you're if that's the way you're
- 40:49going to treat the events as CrossFit HQ,
- 40:52or the representative you send is going to
- 40:55treat it that way.
- 40:57Dude,
- 40:57we we got a long way to go.
- 41:02Serious self reflection would be how I
- 41:04would look at that like needs to take
- 41:06place.
- 41:08That's bananas.
- 41:10Not good bananas.
- 41:11Bad bananas.
- 41:13I mean,
- 41:13if I go out and represent the state
- 41:17and there are complaints the way that I
- 41:19treat people,
- 41:21there are ramifications when I come back
- 41:24to do my job.
- 41:25As there should be.
- 41:28As there should be.
- 41:29I work in sales.
- 41:31If I treat somebody like an idiot whenever
- 41:33they call me,
- 41:34whether they are one or not,
- 41:36it's not going to go well for me.
- 41:39well you're just you're losing money
- 41:42quickly and if it gets bad enough like
- 41:45we could lose a whole lot more than
- 41:46that depending on how bad it gets like
- 41:50we get reported to the insurance
- 41:51commission like that there's a there's all
- 41:52kinds of layers of that kind of so
- 41:56wayne asked does the cac review these
- 41:59issues and discuss with hq i am sure
- 42:03That especially with Seth,
- 42:05they're going to review it.
- 42:06They're going to have a discussion,
- 42:07but ultimately the CAC is not a decision
- 42:10maker.
- 42:11No, they are a council.
- 42:12They can give input feedback,
- 42:15that type of stuff,
- 42:16but they don't make any decisions.
- 42:20So like what power do they actually have?
- 42:25They're an advisory board.
- 42:27That is it.
- 42:30So none.
- 42:32Really and truly, it's none.
- 42:34They can't just be like, oh, yeah, no,
- 42:38we said this,
- 42:39and now this is going to happen.
- 42:40They can make suggestions, and hey,
- 42:44we looked at this and found out that
- 42:46this was going on,
- 42:47so maybe you should look at that.
- 42:48But ultimately,
- 42:49it's going to be whoever they give their
- 42:51findings to,
- 42:52whether or not they actually do anything
- 42:53about it.
- 42:56Again,
- 42:57you have complaints coming out of Rebel
- 42:59that the judges determine the outcome.
- 43:03I mean,
- 43:03we heard Mathilde Garnes talking about her
- 43:05handstands.
- 43:07The second place team said it was
- 43:09predetermined who the first place team was
- 43:11going to be.
- 43:12And the judges made that happen.
- 43:15Now at MAD,
- 43:15you have all of this stuff coming where
- 43:19all appeals are granted.
- 43:23I mean,
- 43:24all I can picture is Oprah like,
- 43:25you get a win, you get a win,
- 43:27you get a win.
- 43:28Well, it's like Wayne said,
- 43:30or somewhere up there in the comments,
- 43:31like, oh, no, no, no.
- 43:33I meant to load three-ten,
- 43:34not three-oh-five.
- 43:36I need you to change my score to
- 43:37that.
- 43:38Sorry.
- 43:38Well, and one of the appeals gave,
- 43:46I think, Callum a win, an event win.
- 43:50And so when it came down to a
- 43:51points tiebreaker with Yonah,
- 43:54Then they were tied for event wins.
- 43:59So it went to then their next play.
- 44:02Like it, dude, I'm telling you,
- 44:05go to the forty five minute mark,
- 44:07hit play,
- 44:09and it's just one thing after another,
- 44:11after another, after another,
- 44:13after another.
- 44:19Yeah,
- 44:19that's the sandbag workout that one rep
- 44:22made him tie for the win.
- 44:27so therefore he got he also yeah yona
- 44:32got screwed sounds like it sounds like it
- 44:37which is sad because i've never heard
- 44:38anything bad about yonakoski no dude he
- 44:45stayed in the same hotel we did at
- 44:46the games twenty twenty twenty twenty two
- 44:54um and he did well that year that
- 44:56he was leading for a lot of the
- 44:58beginning of the competition i think he
- 45:00finished top five or something there was a
- 45:05norwegian party in the hotel that night
- 45:13not a norwegian cruise line party like an
- 45:15actual norwegian party yeah got it is that
- 45:17where is he i i'm trying to remember
- 45:21where he's from yeah i think that's right
- 45:24It was crazy.
- 45:26They were in the lobby just killing it.
- 45:32And he was fun, man.
- 45:35He still talked to us.
- 45:37He was awesome.
- 45:41Finland.
- 45:42Finland.
- 45:43Yes.
- 45:44There was a Finnish party.
- 45:46Yeah.
- 45:48Who doesn't like a Finnish party?
- 45:49That's what it is.
- 45:50Thank you, Shanna.
- 45:51Finnish.
- 45:53Finnish party.
- 45:55I get the cross flags mixed up.
- 45:58I mean, they're all from the same area,
- 45:59the same general area.
- 46:01It's just, it's the color wave that,
- 46:04that rates them.
- 46:05Yep.
- 46:08Yeah.
- 46:09But anyway, um,
- 46:19uh was ncc not a mess and nate
- 46:21nackerman screwed last year i think
- 46:23crossfit did step in to make sure it
- 46:26was not repeated no idea i don't know
- 46:30like i don't know i know ben and
- 46:33blair didn't want it to happen again
- 46:37correct it took an organizer saying we
- 46:40don't want this to happen again what role
- 46:43crossfit played in that we can only
- 46:44speculate right
- 46:47We'll never get that full story.
- 46:50Right.
- 46:53But CrossFit gave up ownership of this
- 46:58level of,
- 46:59at this stage of the competition.
- 47:02So you're at the mercy of,
- 47:03of other event organizers,
- 47:07unless you build it back in that you
- 47:08have oversight.
- 47:10You're kind of screwed.
- 47:11Well, like, like we said before, it's a,
- 47:15it's a tricky thing to navigate to say,
- 47:17okay.
- 47:19I'm going to give you guys this thing.
- 47:21You get us the best people to the
- 47:23games.
- 47:25Do it however you want to do it.
- 47:27Whatever's going to go on.
- 47:28So they're going to take that and they're
- 47:29going to do whatever they got to do,
- 47:31whatever they do with it.
- 47:33And the people who end up suffering are
- 47:35the guys who end up getting screwed,
- 47:37the Yonakoskis of the world, right?
- 47:41Because as athletes, all you can do
- 47:46is get there and do the best you
- 47:48can and you can't help how it's run
- 47:50you can't help how it's judged you can't
- 47:52help how any of that kind of stuff
- 47:54goes on so you end up getting screwed
- 47:57well whose fault is it well crossfit says
- 48:00it's not their fault because they give it
- 48:01to these guys well you the one that
- 48:03gave it to those guys though so what
- 48:05happens to correct it is where the problem
- 48:08comes in because now what are you gonna
- 48:09do next year
- 48:12You're going to try to give it to
- 48:12somebody else.
- 48:13You're going to try to step in and
- 48:14tell these people how to run their event.
- 48:17If the event organizers don't give a damn,
- 48:19Glennon Blair, give a damn.
- 48:21That much is obvious.
- 48:25Tristan's saying right now, like,
- 48:26NCC was much smoother this year.
- 48:29So if the event organizers don't give a
- 48:31damn,
- 48:31and it doesn't seem like the ones in
- 48:33Spain and South Africa do because the
- 48:38judges apparently are just getting
- 48:40together and saying, oh,
- 48:41this team's going to win.
- 48:41It's fine, whatever.
- 48:43Or whoever greased those palms.
- 48:45And then the people at MadFit are just
- 48:47like, oh, yeah,
- 48:49you get a score in just a minute.
- 48:50You get a score.
- 48:51Everybody gets whatever score they think
- 48:52they should.
- 48:54So what do you do about it?
- 48:55You can't do anything about it in the
- 48:56moment.
- 48:57You can't go back and tell them,
- 48:59I'm not taking those people.
- 49:00I'm taking these people because y'all
- 49:02screwed it up.
- 49:04It's a tricky thing to navigate at that
- 49:09point without just saying, again,
- 49:12what you're not going to do is just
- 49:13take ownership completely back and
- 49:15basically what people keep trying to say
- 49:17is bring back regionals,
- 49:18which is never going to happen.
- 49:23It can't happen.
- 49:24It's just people need to think
- 49:28strategically instead of...
- 49:31So I'm going to address this,
- 49:33and hopefully it doesn't take me too long
- 49:35to go on.
- 49:37Scott,
- 49:38my understanding is from listening to
- 49:39Castro is there are better ways to the
- 49:41games,
- 49:42but they are not cost-effective for
- 49:43CrossFit.
- 49:44What we have now is affordable.
- 49:47So...
- 49:48why couldn't we have a regional-type
- 49:52qualification to the games?
- 49:54First of all,
- 49:55it boggles my mind that you have a
- 49:57championship and you don't control the
- 50:00path to that championship.
- 50:04Right?
- 50:06Name another sport where you don't have
- 50:08control to the championship game.
- 50:14To who plays in a championship game.
- 50:17Right.
- 50:18It'd be like if two teams just randomly
- 50:20showed up for the Super Bowl and be
- 50:22like, hey, we're here.
- 50:22Yeah.
- 50:23Yeah.
- 50:28It's hard to even come up with an
- 50:29example.
- 50:30Yeah.
- 50:32But anyway,
- 50:34you could have a regional style
- 50:37qualification using the current event that
- 50:42we have.
- 50:43Sure.
- 50:43Yeah.
- 50:45and maybe a couple others,
- 50:47where CrossFit actually steps in and says,
- 50:50we're going to have oversight on this.
- 50:52We want to see your programming.
- 50:54You have to use this appeal process.
- 50:57You have to use this point system.
- 51:00The fact that everyone can do whatever
- 51:03point system they want and whatever appeal
- 51:05process and whatever this and that is
- 51:09freaking ludicrous.
- 51:10Yeah, I would agree to that.
- 51:13Just come in,
- 51:14make a couple rules that they have to
- 51:16abide by.
- 51:18Make sure that you don't just do a
- 51:20cursory overview of the programming.
- 51:22You actually look at it and make sure
- 51:25that it makes sense.
- 51:28You could still have a regional type thing
- 51:30and go back to one and done.
- 51:34If you go to one and done and
- 51:36you're assigned a regional area and
- 51:38then the regional,
- 51:40the people with the events know who their
- 51:43lineup is right away.
- 51:47You get rid of the damn invites.
- 51:49You get rid of all that stuff and
- 51:50people canceling last minute and all of
- 51:53that stuff that screw the event organizers
- 51:56over.
- 51:57They give them a set lineup that they
- 51:59can actually market and that they know
- 52:02what's coming and just put some guardrails
- 52:07up.
- 52:09Yeah,
- 52:10because right now it's the Wild West.
- 52:13And you can still let them run the
- 52:15event,
- 52:15but give them an opportunity to actually
- 52:17make some money.
- 52:20Because who wants to spend whatever money
- 52:24they're charging you to get in when you
- 52:26don't know who's going to cancel last
- 52:27minute?
- 52:29Or who's going to show up last minute.
- 52:31But if it's your only shot,
- 52:33you know damn well they're coming.
- 52:38Regardless of what else is going on in
- 52:39their lives.
- 52:40Right.
- 52:42Rich Froning.
- 52:42I keep thinking of Rich Froning, the flu.
- 52:46Dude had a hundred and two degree fever
- 52:48and qualified for the games because he had
- 52:49no choice.
- 52:52But if you tell Jeff Adler,
- 52:53you only get,
- 52:54the only way you're going to get to
- 52:55qualify is if you go to syndicate.
- 52:59I bet she shows up at syndicate.
- 53:00A hundred percent.
- 53:02Jason Hopper.
- 53:06Hey, brother,
- 53:06you either come in here or you're not
- 53:08going anywhere.
- 53:10Good luck.
- 53:13You think he just shows up to the
- 53:14French throwdown on a whim again?
- 53:16No, he does not.
- 53:17He goes where you tell him to go.
- 53:19Even the early twenties when they said –
- 53:21when they took the continent of North
- 53:25America and split the –
- 53:28candidates up in four groups sent them to
- 53:30the four different regions europe they
- 53:33split it up half and half sent the
- 53:35people to the regions that was a better
- 53:39way than what we have today you had
- 53:43a set lineup it wasn't regionally based
- 53:46other than australia were australians
- 53:50south america were south americans africa
- 53:53were africans period full stop
- 54:02Yes, Sean, that's actually a good...
- 54:06It's like the Yankees flying around the
- 54:07country deciding which teams they want to
- 54:09play to get to the World Series.
- 54:11It's bonkers.
- 54:13Yeah.
- 54:14Pick the Tigers because you know you're
- 54:15going to win.
- 54:22Yeah, it's...
- 54:25Even like twenty one and twenty two when
- 54:28we first got out of covid was a
- 54:30way better system than we have today.
- 54:34And yeah, Tristan,
- 54:35get rid of the online spots.
- 54:37Yeah,
- 54:38if you're going to have a last chance,
- 54:39it's one spot.
- 54:40It's not seven.
- 54:43Jesus Christ.
- 54:45Seven online spots for one competition and
- 54:47the most anyone competition had was three.
- 54:50Make that make sense.
- 54:52And I think the most in-person should be
- 54:55five.
- 54:58That would make a whole lot more sense
- 54:59because then you eliminate the last
- 55:01chance.
- 55:02When you add the eastern U.S.
- 55:05with thirteen spots,
- 55:07the drama's gone there too.
- 55:12Right?
- 55:12Yeah.
- 55:13Yeah.
- 55:14Go Mayhem, Syndicate, NorCal, and Legends.
- 55:19Split up and they all get five.
- 55:21Easy peasy.
- 55:22Done deal.
- 55:29Didn't they used to even limit the number
- 55:31of people able to do Last Chance?
- 55:33Yeah,
- 55:33it used to be like the next two
- 55:36finishers that didn't qualify at each of
- 55:38the in-person were all that qualified.
- 55:44Something like that.
- 55:46I may not have the number exactly right.
- 55:49If they took five,
- 55:50six and seven got to go to the
- 55:52last chance.
- 55:53Right.
- 55:59It was definitely based on that.
- 56:00There's probably some spreadsheet sitting
- 56:02out there with how it actually works.
- 56:06Tristan would be cool with more than five
- 56:08if you go to huge regions again to
- 56:10have an in-person event qualify the
- 56:13majority of the athletes.
- 56:15i think that's great if you're a coach
- 56:18it sucks as a spectator you want the
- 56:21drama yeah i said six seven judy let
- 56:31it die judy so um anyway that that's
- 56:41probably a discussion for another time but
- 56:43yeah
- 56:44But you could do it without CrossFit
- 56:46taking over the regionals.
- 56:49Just let the event organizers that you
- 56:50have do it, but give them guardrails.
- 56:58Direction.
- 56:59Let's not even call it guardrails.
- 57:00Just direction in general.
- 57:05Yeah, like same point system.
- 57:08At a minimum, the same point system.
- 57:11And I love the syndicate.
- 57:13You get two appeals.
- 57:16And then you're done.
- 57:16It's like challenges in football.
- 57:20You get two.
- 57:23It doesn't matter if you win or if
- 57:25you don't win.
- 57:26If you get it and they, yep,
- 57:27that's cool.
- 57:28If not, you get two, period.
- 57:34George Wang, Densa updates,
- 57:36hinted this might be the final year of
- 57:38syndicate.
- 57:41I know what she's talking about.
- 57:44What I'll say is the way CrossFit does
- 57:49not support the semifinals in a way by
- 57:54giving them a lineup that is something
- 57:57they can market to and the scramble that
- 58:01they have to do to get athletes in
- 58:04their building is hard on the events.
- 58:11They don't make it easy.
- 58:13They don't.
- 58:13And there's no reason for them not to
- 58:15make it easy.
- 58:16And it slows the ticket sales down that
- 58:20people will want to wait till last minute
- 58:23till they know who is actually going to
- 58:25show up.
- 58:26I would love to see the graph on
- 58:28the French throwdown when people found out
- 58:30that Jason Hopper was going to be there.
- 58:34Like ticket sales, ticket sales,
- 58:35ticket sales, ticket sales, champs coming,
- 58:37ticket sales.
- 58:39I'm willing to bet that's what it looked
- 58:40like.
- 58:42I don't know.
- 58:42I don't know what one person does.
- 58:46If I'm looking at it as a fan,
- 58:47I want it to be a competition worth
- 58:50watching.
- 58:52Do I have six or seven people fighting
- 58:55for the three spots or ten people fighting
- 58:58for the five?
- 59:00I would also,
- 59:02who doesn't want to see the champs?
- 59:05If Ali was coming to box in your
- 59:08town as opposed to whoever else is on
- 59:10the card,
- 59:10you're not going to see whoever else is
- 59:11going to card.
- 59:12You're going to see the guy that's the
- 59:15baddest on the planet at the time.
- 59:26Ortega says, Tristan,
- 59:27what is your definition of empty and why
- 59:30does it matter?
- 59:31Empty seats matters.
- 59:34If you want these people to foot the
- 59:35bill, empty seats matters.
- 59:52Lito is disagreeing with Corey.
- 59:54Maybe if you live in Paris,
- 59:55but I don't think anyone's taking a flight
- 59:58or driving for hours if you weren't
- 59:59already going just to see Jason.
- 1:00:03Yeah, you might be right, Lito.
- 1:00:05I'm not willing to die on that hill.
- 1:00:08When I say I'm willing to bet,
- 1:00:09it's like a nickel.
- 1:00:12Not a paycheck, money, stretch,
- 1:00:13and imagination.
- 1:00:14I would just be curious to see if
- 1:00:16it made a difference.
- 1:00:17Let's put it like that.
- 1:00:22If no one attends, you have no vendors.
- 1:00:24That's a fact.
- 1:00:25And you have event organizers going,
- 1:00:27it's not worth it anymore.
- 1:00:29Travis has said that a couple of different
- 1:00:31times,
- 1:00:31like he he picks where he's going by
- 1:00:34whether or not he knows people are going
- 1:00:35to be there.
- 1:00:36And I'll say this as well is.
- 1:00:40As far as the vendors and people selling
- 1:00:42stuff,
- 1:00:42Travis had one of his best weekends ever
- 1:00:46at Syndicate over the weekend.
- 1:00:48He said that himself,
- 1:00:50which means that there were people there
- 1:00:52buying and they were buying stuff.
- 1:00:55And I will support Jonathan in this case.
- 1:00:59There were a lot of people at Syndicate,
- 1:01:01but people were moving in and out of
- 1:01:02the seats throughout the day because it's
- 1:01:05a long day.
- 1:01:06So to judge from the stream like, oh,
- 1:01:08there's empty seats,
- 1:01:10there were times where there weren't very
- 1:01:12many empty seats,
- 1:01:14but there were people up and moving in
- 1:01:15and out of the venue all the time.
- 1:01:18Yeah.
- 1:01:19I'm going to say this, too.
- 1:01:22People moving in and out, dude,
- 1:01:24If I'm competing and I have a longer,
- 1:01:27long enough window in between events,
- 1:01:29I'm not hanging out.
- 1:01:31I'm going back to my Airbnb where it's
- 1:01:33way more comfortable,
- 1:01:34where I got a couch or a bed
- 1:01:35or whatever.
- 1:01:36I might take a shower and relax.
- 1:01:38And then I'm coming back.
- 1:01:40A lot of people do that.
- 1:01:41Like I'm not necessarily just hanging out
- 1:01:44at the venue all day.
- 1:01:45Like I'm going to come and go as
- 1:01:47I please.
- 1:01:51Then rent a smaller venue that's not so
- 1:01:52expensive.
- 1:01:54But there are so many details that people
- 1:01:56don't realize.
- 1:01:57Like,
- 1:02:01I know that Syndicate has a relationship
- 1:02:03with the city of Knoxville.
- 1:02:06There's a partnership.
- 1:02:08But there has to be an ROI for
- 1:02:11the city of Knoxville for us being there.
- 1:02:14Yep.
- 1:02:17And because of that partnership,
- 1:02:18maybe they got the venue at a discounted
- 1:02:21rate.
- 1:02:23But Knoxville wants to see a return on
- 1:02:26the investment.
- 1:02:28Yeah,
- 1:02:28they want to see tourism go up for
- 1:02:30that weekend, by whatever numbers.
- 1:02:33They want to see people in restaurants.
- 1:02:34They want to see their economy go up.
- 1:02:36They want to see all that stuff.
- 1:02:37If they don't and they pull that
- 1:02:40partnership,
- 1:02:41is it viable then for Syndicate to hold
- 1:02:46an event anymore?
- 1:02:51There's so many details with event
- 1:02:55organization that we don't think of
- 1:02:57generally.
- 1:02:58Yeah.
- 1:03:02It's a whole lot that goes into it.
- 1:03:08We'll end on this one.
- 1:03:09How would you all feel if next year
- 1:03:12one of the Xenom events became a
- 1:03:13semifinal?
- 1:03:16I don't think it...
- 1:03:18I think it's apples and oranges.
- 1:03:20It's not the same thing.
- 1:03:25so uh i love tristan patrick all right
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