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- 7:33[SPEAKER_02]: So this installment, make sure you go back and listen to the first two.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_02]: Before you anything else.
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- 7:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_02]: So in our first two installments, we covered the history of the Ouija board, how it was used to supposedly contact spirits of dead relatives.
- 7:53[SPEAKER_02]: So as a pastime, alleviating grief, we also see how the board can have more nefarious connotations being used for manipulation and murder and contacting demons, and you know, the whole nine there.
- 8:10[SPEAKER_02]: goes off the rails.
- 8:11[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready for it.
- 8:14[SPEAKER_02]: In that, it's not that far fetched to think that the board can be used to contact spirits of the dead.
- 8:19[SPEAKER_02]: Also demons from hell that other entities could also make themselves known via the board.
- 8:26[SPEAKER_00]: Lock this monster.
- 8:28[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I didn't check that.
- 8:30[SPEAKER_02]: They locked us.
- 8:32[SPEAKER_02]: Most are probably good.
- 8:33[SPEAKER_00]: Does it know how to spell English words?
- 8:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 8:37[SPEAKER_02]: With its flippers.
- 8:40[SPEAKER_02]: So this is where we're at today.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_02]: We do board contact and things that are not ghosts and demons.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to start with UFOs and aliens.
- 8:54[SPEAKER_00]: This makes sense.
- 8:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, came across a few cases here, where WG boards have been used in close correlation if not direct contact with UFOs and their occupants.
- 9:06[SPEAKER_00]: I would be interested in seeing this done or doing it ourselves.
- 9:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there may be something.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_00]: As much as that terrifies me, it's interesting.
- 9:18[SPEAKER_00]: Cause it definitely parallels the CE five shit.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
- 9:24[SPEAKER_02]: What do they, what camera do they use to film like UFOs at night?
- 9:29[SPEAKER_02]: Is that just night vision?
- 9:30[SPEAKER_02]: Can you see stars at night vision?
- 9:32[SPEAKER_00]: I think so yeah.
- 9:33[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
- 9:33[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 9:33[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 9:34[SPEAKER_00]: Because night vision usually amplifies the light.
- 9:37[SPEAKER_00]: It's for UFOs.
- 9:38[SPEAKER_00]: The UFOs exactly.
- 9:39[SPEAKER_00]: It amplifies the UFOs.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_00]: We definitely need to get a really good night vision camera.
- 9:43[SPEAKER_02]: Do you guys, I feel like I don't even want to talk to it, because I feel like people just jack it.
- 9:48[SPEAKER_02]: But.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then don't because people will jack our shit.
- 9:52[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's it's proven swag jack swag.
- 9:56[SPEAKER_00]: It's proven.
- 9:56[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, when I'm going to talk about it, it's just gonna.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_02]: We need to get gilly suits.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, true.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_00]: Gillis suits landmines military great night vision landmines in case pepper spray the contacts made in the land.
- 10:09[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good weapon for Grace you get it pepper spray can't miss and the I feel like the connotation of landmine has been lost People think it's a mine under the land, but it's actually a mine for a mine for when UFOs land landmine
- 10:29[SPEAKER_02]: It's simple.
- 10:29[SPEAKER_00]: We can use them like the ghostbuster slide trap boom.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_00]: It's easy.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
- 10:37[SPEAKER_02]: Simple science.
- 10:37[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually genius.
- 10:39[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we do.
- 10:40[SPEAKER_00]: We need to have really good thoughts.
- 10:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 10:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 10:44[SPEAKER_02]: So one of the first instances that I found, it's a while I'm scouring the internet, uh, a man by the name Preston didn't wrote a book on all these weedy board contacts and he did a YouTube video where he's he's like pinning these and they were pretty interesting.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so this one came from the author Frank Salisbury from a book called The Utah UFO Display.
- 11:08[SPEAKER_00]: But you also create Salisbury steak.
- 11:10[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, in Utah.
- 11:11[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, yes.
- 11:13[SPEAKER_02]: So this begins with the Clyde McDonald family, not McDonald's McDonald's royalty like Big Mac royalty.
- 11:22[SPEAKER_00]: We just got a lot of food references in this motherfucker.
- 11:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just a family in Utah with the last
- 11:30[SPEAKER_02]: So is there sitting there around the dinner table?
- 11:33[SPEAKER_02]: Their fourth grader, young Tammy, told everybody that a flying saucer was getting ready to appear above the Roosevelt hospital at exactly eight o'clock tonight.
- 11:48[SPEAKER_02]: So she had to get her dinner down.
- 11:50[SPEAKER_02]: So she could go to see the UFO.
- 11:53[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously her parents were like, Tammy, what are you talking about?
- 11:57[SPEAKER_02]: You're a nerd.
- 11:58[SPEAKER_02]: You nerd, and she confirmed her nerdness by saying that her and some of her friends in the fourth grade class had been using a Weegeboard.
- 12:08[SPEAKER_02]: The Weegeboard had informed them that this event would take place.
- 12:12[SPEAKER_02]: Their mother and their father, obviously, said, whatever nerd and went and watched television.
- 12:23[SPEAKER_02]: their children from ran out to meet their eight o'clock UFO appointment.
- 12:29[SPEAKER_02]: Mother even the mother was even being funny and being like you better hurry.
- 12:32[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be gone before you get there.
- 12:34[SPEAKER_02]: And then she heard Tim starting to yell which Tim is the younger brother.
- 12:41[SPEAKER_02]: He's in second grade.
- 12:43[SPEAKER_02]: He's all about what Tammy's got going on.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_00]: That's fucking crazy.
- 12:47[SPEAKER_02]: If Tammy sees, if Tammy says a wage board says a UFO's going to be there, Tammy's all about it.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost the equivalent of my children talking about using a wage board to contact aliens.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 12:58[SPEAKER_00]: That would fuck me up.
- 12:59[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 13:01[SPEAKER_02]: So the here, Timmyel, look, hurry up, there it is.
- 13:05[SPEAKER_02]: And the mothers said they almost broke the screen door off, trying to get out to see it.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_02]: So as they serve the excitement, they all jumped up and ran out the door.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_02]: Two, see a giant light right out above the hospital.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_02]: They saw the light.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, they just stood there in amazement and watched it.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_02]: And the mother says, we about froze.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_02]: We were barefoot and everything, but we didn't want to come back in and lose it.
- 13:34[SPEAKER_02]: It was kind of an ordinary light.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_02]: How big it was, or, and then they were asked, how big was it compared to the full moon?
- 13:40[SPEAKER_02]: She said it wasn't that big, probably about a third of a full moon.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a pretty good size light, having above this hospital.
- 13:45[SPEAKER_00]: There's definitely good size.
- 13:47[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 13:48[SPEAKER_02]: One of the kids ran to call the neighbors and Mr. McDonald went in to get his rifle.
- 13:53[SPEAKER_02]: So we could try to get a better look at this thing through the scope.
- 13:55[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought I was gonna try to get out.
- 13:57[SPEAKER_02]: Me too, but by the time I got back, it was gone.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_02]: They watched out the windows from the house for half an hour or so, but the object did not come back.
- 14:05[SPEAKER_02]: interesting part about this case beyond the Ouija board aspect is that they were not the only people to see the object.
- 14:12[SPEAKER_02]: It was surprisingly well documented, investigator Junior Hicks found at least five other witnesses who saw and described seeing the same object about the same time about the same place.
- 14:22[SPEAKER_02]: Roy Merchant reported seeing the object as it flew alongside his car
- 14:32[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good UFO encounter, minus the Ouija board.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_02]: But with the Ouija board, like, what are the odds?
- 14:42[SPEAKER_02]: Like, the odds have to be astronomical that these kids thought that they were talking to something that said, hey, there's gonna be a UFO here and it ended up being there.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_00]: For the more why would an evil entity do that?
- 15:02[SPEAKER_02]: So what I'm saying, so like they had to be in contact with something that either like had knowledge that the craft was going to be there.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_02]: They were in contact with entities inside the craft or they were in contact with an entity that could like the tech that produced the craft at will, which is crazy,
- 15:32[SPEAKER_02]: The next one comes to us from a humanoid encounters a book series by Robert Rosales, which if you do not have those, I suggest you pick them up because they're awesome.
- 15:44[SPEAKER_02]: They're an entire series.
- 15:46[SPEAKER_02]: Love it comes with pictures and all kinds of shit.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's so dope.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_02]: It goes all the way from the beginning of recorded history, all the way up to the 2000s of weird humanoid and cannot just a clever name.
- 15:57[SPEAKER_02]: Humanoid encounters talks about humanoid encounters.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_02]: Super cool.
- 16:02[SPEAKER_02]: This takes place in September of 1994 in farming him as a chooset.
- 16:07[SPEAKER_02]: A girl by the name of Mona Kimpka had reportedly been playing around on a Ouija board she had acquired.
- 16:14[SPEAKER_02]: She claimed to be in contact with an entity that we heard in the last episode.
- 16:20[SPEAKER_02]: That goes by the name of Zozo.
- 16:25[SPEAKER_02]: At around this time, strange things begin to happen with Mona when she was contacting this entity, about the same time.
- 16:30[SPEAKER_02]: On the night of September 1st, 1994, Mona was a woken at 3.15 in the morning by the feeling of a hand press firmly down on her own.
- 16:39[SPEAKER_02]: As she opened her eyes, she saw her shock to see a reptilian type entity materialized in front of her.
- 16:45[SPEAKER_02]: She described the creature as breathtaking and appearance.
- 16:50[SPEAKER_02]: It was very tall covered in scales that were congruent to its frame.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_02]: with smaller scales around its elbows and knees.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_02]: It's torso, put the most proficient bodybuilders to shame.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_02]: Mona's really impressed with this insane reptilian's physique.
- 17:06[SPEAKER_00]: Scale detail on the nin or the knee.
- 17:09[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 17:10[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 17:10[SPEAKER_00]: So, she was getting a good eye at it.
- 17:13[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty observant little one there.
- 17:15[SPEAKER_02]: Its legs were like giant frog legs, only more developed and muscular.
- 17:20[SPEAKER_02]: there was a mist covering its face so she couldn't make it out.
- 17:24[SPEAKER_02]: Even as all this was taking place, the whole room took on a pink issue.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_02]: The entity reportedly stated that its name was Zozo to her telepathically.
- 17:34[SPEAKER_02]: As this was occurring,
- 17:36[SPEAKER_02]: Mona Williams realizes like, hey, there's an alien here, and became hysterical, standing straight up in her bed and screaming.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_02]: The reptoid was greenish and color, highly developed, uh, very muscular, had intimidating claws almost talent-like, and then dematerialized in front of her.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_02]: She goes on to claim that less than three months after this, she had another encounter in our room.
- 18:02[SPEAKER_02]: This time
- 18:05[SPEAKER_02]: keep in mind that this encounter is in 1994, decade, a decade and a half before Zozo made his appearance on the internet in 2009 where Darren Evans said that he had contacted him via the Ouija board.
- 18:22[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe Zozo's not a demon, maybe Zozo's an alien.
- 18:26[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we do know that
- 18:36[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go ahead and call it right now.
- 18:40[SPEAKER_00]: Battle Toads was soft disclosure for this situation.
- 18:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you right.
- 18:44[SPEAKER_00]: Damn, ain't I. You are?
- 18:46[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember fighting on space ships and shit.
- 18:49[SPEAKER_02]: Teenage Mutant Ninja Dirtle?
- 18:51[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 18:52[SPEAKER_02]: Same thing.
- 18:53[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 18:53[SPEAKER_02]: Biker mice from Mars.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_02]: Same thing.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_02]: Street sharks.
- 18:59[SPEAKER_02]: Same thing.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 19:01[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, they're just prepping us.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_02]: The next, okay, so something that I noticed, not necessarily specifically weedy board stuff, but as I was thumbing through the issue of the Robert Rosales, Humanoid encounters, especially in the 90s, Spain had a lot of shit going on.
- 19:21[SPEAKER_02]: For some reason, when I think of like alien encounters and humanoid encounters, I think like very hyper focus on the United States, there are maybe 2% of the encounters in that 1990 to 1994 book are United States.
- 19:37[SPEAKER_02]: It's Russia and like Spain and Ukraine have all the shit going on.
- 19:42[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy in that in the early 90s.
- 19:45[SPEAKER_02]: Spain was popping off in the night.
- 19:47[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the fuck was going on.
- 19:49[SPEAKER_00]: I know Russia was hot in the 80s too.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_02]: Because I was expecting to dig through there and be like America, America, America.
- 19:56[SPEAKER_02]: Fuck no.
- 19:57[SPEAKER_02]: Humanoids were everywhere, but that's crazy.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty wild.
- 20:01[SPEAKER_02]: So Spain, specifically the town of Begoor.
- 20:04[SPEAKER_02]: In the 60s, in the UFO culture, was poppin' off in Spain.
- 20:09[SPEAKER_02]: Multiple people were claiming to be in contact with aliens claiming to be from a planet called Umo.
- 20:15[SPEAKER_02]: People were traveling from all over the country to try and communicate or catch a glimpse of these humanoid aliens.
- 20:21[SPEAKER_02]: The Lauren interest in these alleged contacts lasted for decades, when, in August of 1980, a couple that lived in the area decided that they would try to step up their alien contact game
- 20:34[SPEAKER_02]: To give themselves a little leg up above the others trying to make contact with the Umo aliens the Umo case itself is actually pretty well known in UFO lore It's got a couple books written on it.
- 20:46[SPEAKER_02]: The couple had joined a group that was still going on
- 20:51[SPEAKER_02]: Years later, obviously from the 60s to the 80s, that had began brainstorming on how to contact these aliens.
- 20:59[SPEAKER_02]: They came up with the idea that the board would streamline the contact with these beings, not long after using the board and effort to contact the Umo aliens.
- 21:10[SPEAKER_02]: The couple was driving along with their two children when a UFO appeared overhead and started following them
- 21:20[SPEAKER_02]: This was in the middle of the night at around 2.15 a.m., traveling down Highway A, 17 in Magor.
- 21:26[SPEAKER_02]: The object was following the car closely and it became quite concerned.
- 21:30[SPEAKER_02]: So much so that the dad pulled over to try to get a good eye on what this thing was.
- 21:35[SPEAKER_02]: As soon as he pulled over, the craft shop back up into the air.
- 21:38[SPEAKER_02]: So he was like, all right, whatever.
- 21:40[SPEAKER_02]: It's back on the car, takes off, craft decends again, starts hovering right above him.
- 21:51[SPEAKER_02]: So they decided to just take off and continue on their trick.
- 21:55[SPEAKER_02]: Craft gets closer.
- 21:57[SPEAKER_02]: As they made it into the town of Agua Blava, the craft was exceptionally low.
- 22:02[SPEAKER_02]: It began shooting down a beam of light at the car.
- 22:05[SPEAKER_02]: As this happened, it lit up the surrounding area so much that the family could see an odd symbol on the underside of the craft.
- 22:12[SPEAKER_02]: Upon research later,
- 22:15[SPEAKER_02]: they found that the symbol had been seen multiple other times on crafts and uniforms from the beings that were supposedly from planet umo swastika's um no it wasn't it looked I don't know what it looked last saw it it's hard to explain they're like two cups with the thing through the middle I don't know I was gonna save it but I didn't it sounds like a old school
- 22:43[SPEAKER_02]: Not a video that Yeah, yeah, our reference two beings one cup Two moes one cup Disgusting.
- 22:53[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, so contact it try to contact beings with a Ouija board And they get accosted by UFO.
- 23:02[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's pretty slick thinking though Yeah, I don't know why it hasn't crossed our minds before now.
- 23:09[SPEAKER_00]: I I would I would agree with that
- 23:12[SPEAKER_02]: I think, for the most part, we work kind of put off by the idea of using the weed report.
- 23:20[SPEAKER_02]: We were kind of pulled into that camp like, oh, it's nefarious.
- 23:23[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing that can come of it.
- 23:24[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think about contacts and aliens with it, you know?
- 23:28[SPEAKER_02]: Good on them.
- 23:29[SPEAKER_02]: Kudos to them.
- 23:30[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I said, it's it's it's it's pretty good thinking.
- 23:33[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which we, we should kind of should have known because the iron, the lead mass case,
- 23:41[SPEAKER_02]: those guys were trying to contact dead Martians and in that they were led to the beach where they saw the UFO, the UFO exploded so on and so forth.
- 23:53[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have it's pretty big flex to roll up on the beach and explode yourself.
- 23:59[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I mean.
- 24:01[SPEAKER_02]: Oh you guys saw me check this out.
- 24:05[SPEAKER_02]: Then you have the Antichrist Hitsquad, the Gulf Breeze Six, who was in contact with the being that is not, did not claim to be a demon, did not claim to be a spirit.
- 24:18[SPEAKER_02]: It was something other worldly, they said that they had to save the damn planet.
- 24:23[SPEAKER_02]: So they too were using the Weedy Ward to contact not necessarily go.
- 24:27[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like we would be good, good people to get a hold of
- 24:35[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say it's a bullet trigger on that one.
- 24:37[SPEAKER_02]: We'll do that to contact to make contact with entities.
- 24:41[SPEAKER_02]: Hell.
- 24:41[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's get it.
- 24:43[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about it.
- 24:45[SPEAKER_02]: To save the planet Yeah, I feel like I feel like I'll be like man.
- 24:53[SPEAKER_02]: I just I'm really tired right now.
- 24:55[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather take a nap.
- 24:56[SPEAKER_00]: It's literally what I was going to say I got a lot of my play right now.
- 25:00[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I knew that
- 25:02[SPEAKER_02]: I got forced into work tomorrow night, yeah, which I did.
- 25:05[SPEAKER_02]: So I can't save the plant tomorrow.
- 25:06[SPEAKER_02]: You guys are out the way.
- 25:07[SPEAKER_00]: We got we got nasty.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_02]: Just as what it is.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 25:13[SPEAKER_02]: So the next encounter we are rolling right back into Spain because Spain's Spain is off the chain as they said back in the 90s.
- 25:23[SPEAKER_00]: That was their their state Ma are their country model.
- 25:26[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was on their flag.
- 25:27[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Spain is off the chain.
- 25:30[SPEAKER_02]: This is from a town called La Tahita, June 9th, 1975 at 11.30 pm, two teenage boys named Jose and Paco were messing around with their Ouija board one night.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure if they intended necessarily to contact aliens or not, but that's exactly what happened.
- 25:48[SPEAKER_02]: The contact is something with the board when they are, that then told them to drive to a nearby beach where these entity would show themselves to the teens.
- 25:58[SPEAKER_02]: As they got out to this beach on Tenerife, they saw multiple UFOs out over the water.
- 26:03[SPEAKER_02]: As they're sitting there, these lights began getting closer and closer to them.
- 26:08[SPEAKER_02]: The boys would later wake up in their car with the significant amount of missing time.
- 26:13[SPEAKER_02]: Just never good when you see a UFO,
- 26:19[SPEAKER_00]: They basically fuckin' alien-day breakdown.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's never good.
- 26:23[SPEAKER_02]: That's so bad.
- 26:25[SPEAKER_02]: They just straight up, they're like, hey, Steve.
- 26:28[SPEAKER_00]: Come hang out.
- 26:29[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, come to this beach.
- 26:30[SPEAKER_00]: We'll show you what we look like.
- 26:32[SPEAKER_00]: And then you just wake up hours later in your fuckin' car.
- 26:35[SPEAKER_02]: Can't remember nothing.
- 26:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, remember nothing.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_02]: Probably gonna headache.
- 26:39[SPEAKER_02]: Socks.
- 26:40[SPEAKER_00]: This is that sucks.
- 26:41[SPEAKER_00]: Socks.
- 26:42[SPEAKER_00]: That's the shittiest move I've heard
- 26:47[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, try to tell you aliens are sus but no, it was like love and light loving night.
- 26:51[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all right.
- 26:53[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm down for a cool alien But in most cases, they're not that cool.
- 26:59[SPEAKER_02]: No, no cases.
- 27:01[SPEAKER_02]: They're cool.
- 27:02[SPEAKER_00]: If you if you hang out with somebody and they got to make you forget What happened when young out?
- 27:08[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not a cool friend.
- 27:10[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a cool friend
- 27:11[SPEAKER_02]: Later on, they agreed to go under hypnotic regression because one of the boys began getting telepathic messages, telling them that they had been abducted on the beach that night.
- 27:22[SPEAKER_02]: So not only did they wipe their memory, they then started to say, you know, maybe some weird shit didn't happen.
- 27:28[SPEAKER_02]: Then it takes messages like, you remember what happened that night?
- 27:31[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
- 27:33[SPEAKER_00]: So they went under it.
- 27:34[SPEAKER_00]: So fucking suspect.
- 27:36[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 27:38[SPEAKER_02]: So, they went under hypnosis.
- 27:40[SPEAKER_02]: They were called being taken on board of craft, taken down a lighted hallway into a room and sat on the chairs.
- 27:47[SPEAKER_02]: entities came into the room, but the boys couldn't make out what they look like, because they wore white jumpsuits and big white helmets.
- 27:54[SPEAKER_02]: These entities put strange helmets on the boys, each having about 30 cables sticking out of them, and what they believed to be some sort of mind-reading experiment, or some thought procedure,
- 28:06[SPEAKER_02]: This was the only part that they could remember, but they recalled being led back down the corridor and placed into their building, or into their vehicle.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_02]: Thus.
- 28:17[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it feels, it feels extremely nefarious.
- 28:21[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, never don't trust them.
- 28:23[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if it was you and me up there and I saw you with that dope ass helmet on, I would instantly think weapon X. Yeah, same.
- 28:33[SPEAKER_02]: Um, where else am I here?
- 28:35[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, apparently another one from Spain, because if you're going to contact aliens with the Weegeboard, you need to be in Spain.
- 28:44[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently because that's where the leading Weegeboard technology is taking place.
- 28:52[SPEAKER_02]: leading weedy board communication with extraterrestrials happen in Spain, because we got another one.
- 28:58[SPEAKER_02]: September 1984, a young couple, Jose and Maria are vacationing in Viela, Vielacra.
- 29:05[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry if I get all these names wrong.
- 29:07[SPEAKER_02]: On this vacation, they decided to spend a romantic evening doing what all young couples do, trying to contact their dead loved ones on a weedy board.
- 29:21[SPEAKER_00]: It was the 80s and a Spain.
- 29:23[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of weird stuff.
- 29:24[SPEAKER_02]: So they did not contact their dead loved ones.
- 29:30[SPEAKER_02]: They contacted an entity that went by the name of M4.
- 29:36[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's try to have a fucking holiday to game.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_02]: They contacted him for M4 told them.
- 29:43[SPEAKER_02]: Like a mission for you.
- 29:46[SPEAKER_00]: Of course it did.
- 29:51[SPEAKER_02]: and buy a Polaroid camera in some film.
- 29:54[SPEAKER_02]: I'll let you take my picture.
- 29:55[SPEAKER_02]: Man.
- 29:58[SPEAKER_00]: This just has Predator in all over it.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_00]: This episode is very Predator based.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_03]: I'll let you take my picture.
- 30:06[SPEAKER_00]: So like, I'm stuck in a 70s horror movie.
- 30:08[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 30:09[SPEAKER_00]: About.
- 30:13[SPEAKER_00]: bad dudes doing bad weird shit.
- 30:16[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 30:17[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 30:18[SPEAKER_02]: So the couple said, well, I mean, if if him four told us via the Ouija board to go by a camera, we might as well do it.
- 30:24[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, obviously.
- 30:24[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go get it.
- 30:26[SPEAKER_02]: So the couple went to town.
- 30:27[SPEAKER_02]: We got their selves of camera.
- 30:29[SPEAKER_02]: Got some film.
- 30:31[SPEAKER_02]: Come back.
- 30:32[SPEAKER_02]: Hop right back on the Ouija said, Hey, I'm for we got what you wanted us to get.
- 30:37[SPEAKER_02]: And
- 30:40[SPEAKER_02]: enforce it.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_02]: All right, bet.
- 30:42[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be back tomorrow night and you can take my picture.
- 30:46[SPEAKER_02]: So they're like, OK, cool.
- 30:48[SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't get to take a picture.
- 30:50[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly what info did took a picture of them.
- 30:54[SPEAKER_02]: They're sitting there at their dining room table when all the sudden they see a light outside their window.
- 31:00[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, the next day.
- 31:01[SPEAKER_02]: They're the next night.
- 31:03[SPEAKER_02]: As they go out to check it out, they see a glowing entity outside of their cabin about 100 feet from them.
- 31:10[SPEAKER_02]: The entity appeared to be 7 feet tall and was wearing a shiny suit covering his whole body.
- 31:17[SPEAKER_02]: They quickly snapped a photograph of the entity, which shows a glowing vaguely humanoid shape.
- 31:23[SPEAKER_02]: I did get to see the photo, and it looks exactly how you would think it would look
- 31:30[SPEAKER_02]: taking a hundred feet away at night of a shiny entity on a polar road camera.
- 31:35[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in what's again?
- 31:36[SPEAKER_02]: It is a shiny blob.
- 31:38[SPEAKER_00]: I love the ingenuity and deception of these extra still beings because he didn't lie.
- 31:45[SPEAKER_00]: No.
- 31:47[SPEAKER_00]: But he's like, but I'm also going to stand a hundred feet away so you can't see shit.
- 31:52[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 31:55[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's fucking Gilbert over there with a lantern.
- 32:01[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_02]: They continued to be in contact with this entity throughout the remaining time on their vacation and reported to see it 10 more times, but apparently wouldn't let him take their picture.
- 32:13[SPEAKER_02]: Well, one of them won't have done, baby.
- 32:15[SPEAKER_02]: And he only promised one.
- 32:16[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 32:16[SPEAKER_02]: You can't knock him for that.
- 32:18[SPEAKER_00]: It's like being around a celebrity.
- 32:21[SPEAKER_00]: You're not trying to, they're not trying to hang out with paparazzi all the fucking died.
- 32:24[SPEAKER_02]: No, he don't want, he's at one and done.
- 32:26[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 32:26[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 32:26[SPEAKER_02]: So I gave you that chill out.
- 32:28[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 32:29[SPEAKER_02]: They did report on their way back home, seeing a UFO on their way home.
- 32:35[SPEAKER_02]: Another odd aspect of the case was that Jose suffered severe back pain from an injury up to the point that they met him for.
- 32:45[SPEAKER_02]: After the encounter with them for his back pain had disappeared.
- 32:50[SPEAKER_02]: Now see why isn't there more stories of this shit where you got to take a picture of a alien to get your back cured?
- 32:56[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm good with that.
- 33:00[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, if I, if I, if all you have to do is take a picture of this thing and it's like, well, guess what, all your ailments are now gone, you were essentially 22 again,
- 33:11[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not that mad, you know, it's a good trade.
- 33:14[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty fair trade.
- 33:15[SPEAKER_00]: He saw a trade.
- 33:16[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe he just needed like a headshot for something.
- 33:20[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, glamor shots with that.
- 33:23[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 33:25[SPEAKER_02]: We're coming back to America with this one.
- 33:27[SPEAKER_02]: This is from author Gary Val Tanuda, who wrote the book, Weegee Calling.
- 33:34[SPEAKER_02]: Or we, let me try that again.
- 33:36[SPEAKER_02]: You wrote the book.
- 33:37[SPEAKER_02]: Weegee calling E.T.
- 33:39[SPEAKER_02]: Do you copy a true story?
- 33:42[SPEAKER_00]: Clever.
- 33:43[SPEAKER_02]: Takes place in Long Beach, California, 1967.
- 33:47[SPEAKER_02]: Gary, his wife, E.D.
- 33:49[SPEAKER_02]: And their friend, Tom, started using a Weegee board to attempt to contact dead relatives.
- 33:55[SPEAKER_02]: Did they?
- 33:56[SPEAKER_02]: No.
- 33:58[SPEAKER_02]: Instead, they contacted an entity that went by the name
- 34:04[SPEAKER_02]: That's a name.
- 34:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 34:06[SPEAKER_02]: That's a name.
- 34:07[SPEAKER_02]: I love that he called himself specter, like, almost mocking them.
- 34:10[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 34:11[SPEAKER_02]: That they were trying to, like, contact a ghost.
- 34:13[SPEAKER_02]: Something like that.
- 34:14[SPEAKER_00]: A really expensive lawyer.
- 34:15[SPEAKER_02]: Or a colon.
- 34:17[SPEAKER_02]: Or a colon.
- 34:18[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 34:18[SPEAKER_02]: Try this new, guru specter.
- 34:20[SPEAKER_00]: That is a good clone name.
- 34:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 34:23[SPEAKER_02]: Guru gave them a series of strange messages.
- 34:27[SPEAKER_02]: Quote, we exist on a physical plane.
- 34:29[SPEAKER_02]: We are in the, we are on the fifth planet.
- 34:34[SPEAKER_02]: from the sun in our solar system.
- 34:36[SPEAKER_02]: Our planet is called Greck.
- 34:38[SPEAKER_02]: We are living beings, the same as you are living beings, but we are in a different dimension.
- 34:43[SPEAKER_02]: We are in your future time.
- 34:46[SPEAKER_02]: Guro then went on to tell them that their friend Tom had been abducted and taken to Greck.
- 34:51[SPEAKER_02]: When he was there, Tom had allowed them to take genetic material from him to produce a child on
- 35:03[SPEAKER_02]: After that revelation was broke, Tom was like, you know what?
- 35:07[SPEAKER_02]: Now that I think about it, I did have a weird series of dreams where I was taking to another planet and made babies, kind of unlocked that and it wasn't, it wasn't actually a dream.
- 35:20[SPEAKER_02]: No, good, good, really, it really did that.
- 35:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 35:25[SPEAKER_02]: Guro went on to tell them that he was able to contact the Ouija boards via telepathy, which is what I was referencing in the last one.
- 35:34[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these beings say that they're contacting the board as opposed to using the human as a conduit.
- 35:40[SPEAKER_00]: That's still an interesting statement, though, to use telepathy instead of, like, telekinesis.
- 35:45[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 35:47[SPEAKER_00]: Because to low-end telepathy, that's the thoughts.
- 35:50[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 35:52[SPEAKER_02]: So you would think that if he was moving the plan show, well, I don't know.
- 35:56[SPEAKER_02]: That's weird.
- 35:56[SPEAKER_02]: Good call.
- 35:58[SPEAKER_02]: Gary's wife, Edie went on to be able to start channeling these entities via automatic writing, which is similar to Ouija board.
- 36:06[SPEAKER_02]: And then she went on to be able to contact them to let her via telepathy.
- 36:11[SPEAKER_02]: Just thought to talk communication, which is kind of like the, um, estes method, the way you go up.
- 36:20[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Guru Road, then went on to tell them that they would be able to actually build a UFO using their minds.
- 36:33[SPEAKER_00]: So Gary was like fucking turned into Magneto.
- 36:36[SPEAKER_02]: Gary was like, no Guru, we can't.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_02]: We can't build a UFO using just our thoughts and Guru was like, yeah, you can.
- 36:46[SPEAKER_02]: quit, quit selling yourself short, and think, think, build a UFO.
- 36:51[SPEAKER_00]: I love the Gary's like dude, that's not our mind works.
- 36:55[SPEAKER_02]: And Guro continues to argue with him.
- 36:57[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yes, you can, and you're going to have to, because there's going to be great devastation.
- 37:03[SPEAKER_02]: You need to build these mind UFOs to take people off the planet because there's going to be a mass extinction event, huge devastation.
- 37:13[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know what?
- 37:14[SPEAKER_00]: It's good that Gary didn't fall to that trap.
- 37:17[SPEAKER_02]: Which it kind of made me wonder as I was reading that because he said then after the devastation happens, humans have to go back and repopulate the Earth.
- 37:25[SPEAKER_02]: Because it will be livable.
- 37:27[SPEAKER_02]: and you got to restart which made me think like it kind of took me into the soul trap consciousness kind of thing is it just him harvesting our consciousness and then putting back in you know like like I thought UFO feels like just your consciousness build a consciousness UFO.
- 37:46[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 37:46[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
- 37:47[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know good.
- 37:50[SPEAKER_02]: You need to be more specific.
- 37:52[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the word specific.
- 37:56[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what time we got all right.
- 37:58[SPEAKER_02]: We got a little bit of time.
- 37:58[SPEAKER_02]: I got a couple left here.
- 38:01[SPEAKER_02]: So, we've done UFOs, right?
- 38:06[SPEAKER_02]: Things are about to get real strange.
- 38:10[SPEAKER_02]: Real strange.
- 38:12[SPEAKER_02]: Sequoia National Park, California, Summer of 1975, and Peter Gautier's book, The Bigfoot Files, he references this case.
- 38:23[SPEAKER_02]: three witnesses, a man by the name of John Clark, his wife, and their friend Ralph Johnson had went camping in the park at around a camping in the park.
- 38:35[SPEAKER_02]: John and his wife staying in their
- 38:43[SPEAKER_02]: The Clark's dog started freaking the fuck out started barking, it's hackles rub like really something was going on that then need to be going on.
- 38:56[SPEAKER_02]: So as the dogs freaking out, Clark's like kind of waking up is early in the morning, trying to figure out if there's a bear in the camp or what's going on, he hears Ralph Yill, what is that?
- 39:08[SPEAKER_02]: So Clark jumps up to go investigate.
- 39:11[SPEAKER_02]: As he pokes his head out the trailer, he shocked to see a nine-foot tall creature covered and blonde hair, moving rapidly through the camp.
- 39:26[SPEAKER_02]: a blonde big foot, so you got some highlights.
- 39:32[SPEAKER_02]: Ralph, who's already out of his car.
- 39:35[SPEAKER_02]: Again, an honest thing does, the OG thing that he could do, grab the nearest object, which is a cast iron frying pan and chuck it at the blonde big foot.
- 39:48[SPEAKER_00]: That's a solid move.
- 39:50[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 39:51[SPEAKER_00]: Solid.
- 39:52[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
- 39:53[SPEAKER_02]: He then dove back into his car and lock the doors.
- 39:58[SPEAKER_02]: fired, you know, shooting run.
- 40:00[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm afraid.
- 40:02[SPEAKER_00]: I'm definitely like that.
- 40:03[SPEAKER_00]: He essentially tried to beat up the stand.
- 40:06[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he hit it.
- 40:07[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he hit it, but he did throw it.
- 40:09[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, either way, it's definitely like a heroic act.
- 40:14[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 40:15[SPEAKER_02]: Clark immediately ran back into the trailer, locked it up, grabbed his rifle and waited until the sun came up.
- 40:21[SPEAKER_00]: He might have started with the rifle, you know what I like.
- 40:24[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool.
- 40:25[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, frying pan was a weird choice, but it's definitely weird choice.
- 40:29[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't there.
- 40:30[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't saying weird choice.
- 40:32[SPEAKER_00]: It's a classic choice.
- 40:33[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a it's a choice of desperation.
- 40:36[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, nostalgia.
- 40:39[SPEAKER_02]: So as the sun came up, Clark stated that it was weird because
- 40:46[SPEAKER_02]: This thing made no sound as it was running through the camp.
- 40:49[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't crunch the leaves, it didn't pattern on the ground.
- 40:54[SPEAKER_02]: He also said that it looked as if it was gliding.
- 40:56[SPEAKER_02]: It made no like walking, hunching or running movements as it was moving through the camp.
- 41:03[SPEAKER_02]: The next morning, they went out and looked for evidence of the creature, but they didn't find any.
- 41:06[SPEAKER_02]: No footprints, no broken branches, no hair, no nothing.
- 41:16[SPEAKER_02]: wondering if maybe they had a shared hallucination or what they'd just experienced, they decided to pack up and head home.
- 41:22[SPEAKER_02]: John's wife couldn't shake what had happened the previous night.
- 41:26[SPEAKER_02]: So she did what any sane person would do, and go out and buy a Ouija board under the premise that you wanted to try and contact the creature that had sprinted through their campsite.
- 41:35[SPEAKER_02]: John, being a man of science, said that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
- 41:41[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't in the paranormal, wasn't in the ghost stuff.
- 41:44[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty much told her that she was just wasted in her time, but she was adamant.
- 41:48[SPEAKER_02]: I already bought the board.
- 41:50[SPEAKER_02]: She wanted to know what the creature was.
- 41:51[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully just says, Ayola, got your frying pan, bro.
- 41:55[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just got it.
- 41:57[SPEAKER_02]: So John finally decides the humor and they set up the board at the kitchen table.
- 42:02[SPEAKER_02]: His wife placed her fingers in the planchette and they began asking questions.
- 42:05[SPEAKER_02]: Slow going at first, but eventually the board started responding.
- 42:10[SPEAKER_02]: It spilled out the word QO in, which I'm going to call a quon, rich homie quon, yeah.
- 42:18[SPEAKER_02]: Knowing that it wasn't a word they're familiar with, they ask what quon meant.
- 42:23[SPEAKER_02]: The board told them that quon was its name.
- 42:27[SPEAKER_02]: They asked Quann where it was from, and the board spelled out 5 million light years away.
- 42:31[SPEAKER_02]: Damn.
- 42:32[SPEAKER_02]: John's wife continued asking questions.
- 42:34[SPEAKER_02]: If Quann had anything to do with what they saw at the campground the previous night, the board said yes, and then spelled out the word Bigfoot.
- 42:42[SPEAKER_02]: This prompted John's wife to ask if Bigfoot was from Earth.
- 42:46[SPEAKER_02]: The board said, no, Bigfoot was actually an alien that had crash landed on Earth in a UFO in 1863 from the planet Pluto.
- 42:57[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dang.
- 42:59[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 43:01[SPEAKER_02]: Where, where, where are you at now?
- 43:10[SPEAKER_02]: says grichome quann on the Ouija board.
- 43:14[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, home we quann's not gonna lie.
- 43:17[SPEAKER_00]: He was lie, lie, lie, lie about something like that.
- 43:19[SPEAKER_00]: So what I'm saying?
- 43:20[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 43:21[SPEAKER_00]: So what I'm saying?
- 43:23[SPEAKER_02]: At this point, John was like, we're done with this.
- 43:27[SPEAKER_02]: We're just gonna, he says stop it, just stop it.
- 43:33[SPEAKER_02]: And they put the board away and he doesn't think about it.
- 43:35[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he starts having a real-time sleeping.
- 43:38[SPEAKER_02]: got starts having a lot of stress from the encounter.
- 43:40[SPEAKER_02]: It's way in on him, can't sleep.
- 43:44[SPEAKER_02]: So for a few weeks of this, he decided to reach out for help.
- 43:47[SPEAKER_02]: He was kind of weighing on the whole Weegeboard thing and the creature he saw.
- 43:52[SPEAKER_02]: He heard of a professor from the University of California named James Harder.
- 43:57[SPEAKER_02]: He had a background in researching the paranormal, while John wasn't really into that world.
- 44:01[SPEAKER_02]: He was so desperate for answers that he saw it out James to tell him what exactly had happened.
- 44:05[SPEAKER_02]: Dr. harder than suggested the John undergo hypnotherapy, to possibly recover memories that may be blocked out from sight that night.
- 44:14[SPEAKER_02]: So he goes into harder's office, undergoes hypnosis, and everything is playing out the way he remembers it.
- 44:19[SPEAKER_02]: The campsite, the creature, the dog freaking out, he remembers here in Ralph Yel,
- 44:26[SPEAKER_02]: But then as he looks out the window of the trailer, as this thing leaving the forest line, there's a,
- 44:34[SPEAKER_02]: bright flash of pure white light.
- 44:36[SPEAKER_02]: The next thing he remembers is he was being in a triangular room.
- 44:40[SPEAKER_02]: No doors, no windows, just smooth walls that seem to be self-illuminating.
- 44:45[SPEAKER_02]: He remembers laying on a bed with tubes protruding from his arms and one from his stomach.
- 44:50[SPEAKER_02]: He said it wasn't painful, he wasn't afraid, but then he began to feel as if he was levitating.
- 44:56[SPEAKER_02]: As he looked up, he saw an immense bright light above him, as his eyes adjusted to the light.
- 45:02[SPEAKER_02]: He saw that there was something in the light above him.
- 45:05[SPEAKER_02]: He realized that they were eyes.
- 45:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yellow eyes with black slits, almost like a cat or a reptile's eyes.
- 45:11[SPEAKER_02]: He couldn't focus on what the creature was that had the eyes just on the eyes.
- 45:16[SPEAKER_02]: He then woke up with more questions and answers.
- 45:25[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then weird ass like red tile eyes, make sure wonderful.
- 45:30[SPEAKER_02]: These things run some play and then we can connect with and we don't know what we're contacting.
- 45:36[SPEAKER_02]: Be Ghost, be demons, be bigfoot, got another big foot, Ouija board encounter, not a direct connection, but almost kind of this is from Nick Redfern's book, the big foot book, a woman named Laura recounts the events from her mid-teens.
- 45:56[SPEAKER_02]: One Friday night, Laura's parents were out for the night, so she decided to have a few of her girlfriends come over and have a slumber party.
- 46:02[SPEAKER_02]: As a friends arrived, one of them, a girl by the name of Brooke.
- 46:07[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, Brooke.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_02]: Pulls out a Ouija board for the night's entertainment.
- 46:12[SPEAKER_02]: The four girls named Laura Allison broken Beth found the board to be the perfect way to kind of distract themselves from all of life's drama.
- 46:19[SPEAKER_02]: Laura admitted that none of them had any experience with the board.
- 46:23[SPEAKER_02]: Most of them hadn't even seen one aside from Brooke, who's the one who brought it over.
- 46:29[SPEAKER_02]: They did all the things teenage girls would do with the board, asked the board about boys, asked the board about their future, all that stuff.
- 46:38[SPEAKER_02]: The atmosphere took a heavier turn when one of the girls decided to ask about a dead loved one.
- 46:42[SPEAKER_02]: This prompted the girls to fear that they may have opened a portal to something malevolent, which might be what happened.
- 46:49[SPEAKER_02]: As soon as they started asking about the dead, the whole atmosphere of the room changed, like the air has been sucked out of the room.
- 46:59[SPEAKER_02]: I said it was obviously noticeable.
- 47:01[SPEAKER_02]: The remainder of the night, this caused the girls to put the board away and they're like, no, we're done.
- 47:05[SPEAKER_02]: It's weird, we're over it.
- 47:08[SPEAKER_02]: Put the board away and the remainder of the night, nothing strange occurred.
- 47:11[SPEAKER_02]: By the next day, Laura was unable to shake the odd sensation that they had when asking the board about the dead loved one.
- 47:16[SPEAKER_02]: The following night, something terrifying happened.
- 47:19[SPEAKER_02]: And just after going to bed, Laura had heard from outside the window a shrill banshee like whale of a creature that she had never heard before.
- 47:27[SPEAKER_02]: Since the house had backed into the forest, she was used to seeing and hearing also its wildlife.
- 47:32[SPEAKER_02]: But this was clearly something different.
- 47:34[SPEAKER_02]: She appeared out of her bedroom window but couldn't see anything.
- 47:38[SPEAKER_02]: Soon the cry stopped in Laura fell asleep, later that night something truly terrifying occurred.
- 47:43[SPEAKER_02]: Laura was woken from her sleep by a horrid smell, sickly smell that filled her bedroom.
- 47:49[SPEAKER_02]: She was about to turn the light on when she noticed in the moonlight something standing in the corner of her room.
- 47:54[SPEAKER_02]: Laura tried to scream but couldn't muster a sound.
- 47:58[SPEAKER_02]: It, it was, she said, as if something was preventing her from making any noise at all, almost as if she was being controlled by the being that was in the corner of the room.
- 48:07[SPEAKER_02]: This creature began to move near her.
- 48:09[SPEAKER_02]: She got a better look at it as it moved closer.
- 48:12[SPEAKER_02]: It was large, it was a large black-haired creature that looked like a cross between a man and a giant ape.
- 48:17[SPEAKER_02]: It's massive arms hung by its side.
- 48:20[SPEAKER_02]: It's silvery eyes stared at her, showing no emotion toward her at all.
- 48:23[SPEAKER_02]: The creature moved closer and closer, leaning in and putting its face less than six inches from Laura's.
- 48:29[SPEAKER_02]: She could see that the facial features were those of a very primitive humanoid or an ape man.
- 48:34[SPEAKER_02]: The creature just stared at her for a few long seconds.
- 48:37[SPEAKER_02]: Before we're treating back into the shadows of the quarter of the room, not ever breaking contact with Laura as it backed itself into the shadows.
- 48:45[SPEAKER_02]: It made no sounds at all.
- 48:47[SPEAKER_02]: Finally, it just seemed to dissipate
- 48:52[SPEAKER_02]: To this day, Laura still firmly believes that the Bigfoot-like creature was sent there through the contact of the Ouija board sent to some sort of warning not to mess with forces beyond this realm.
- 49:04[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the first times I've heard Bigfoot creeping in somebody's room.
- 49:09[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there is a case.
- 49:11[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't put it in here because it doesn't involve a Ouija board, but it doesn't involve the sayons.
- 49:15[SPEAKER_02]: And Nick Redfern refers to it in his book, The Bigfoot Files, where they are holding a sayons.
- 49:22[SPEAKER_02]: And as they are doing this sayons, in the corner of the room, a Bigfoot like entity, a manifest.
- 49:31[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just kind of sitting there, not doing anything, not interacting with anyone.
- 49:36[SPEAKER_02]: And the man leading the saons keeps trying to get the big foot to join the saons circle, trying to get it in on what they're doing.
- 49:45[SPEAKER_02]: But it's almost like it never intended to be there in the first place.
- 49:51[SPEAKER_02]: Almost like it was like pulled from what it was doing in place there.
- 49:54[SPEAKER_02]: And eventually it just de-manifested back out into the ether.
- 50:01[SPEAKER_02]: So, apparently, you can summon bigfoot.
- 50:06[SPEAKER_02]: That's weird.
- 50:07[SPEAKER_02]: I got one more short one here.
- 50:10[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of bigfooty, but actually it's dog man.
- 50:13[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing I can say, it's a dog man.
- 50:16[SPEAKER_02]: There's a case reported to move on about a man that is said to be using Ouija board when all of a sudden he heard an odd noise outside his home.
- 50:23[SPEAKER_02]: He grabbed his flashlight and proceeded to go outside to see what all the commotion was about.
- 50:27[SPEAKER_02]: As he stepped outside, scanned his light, he saw two creatures.
- 50:31[SPEAKER_02]: One of them was walking upright on its hind legs.
- 50:34[SPEAKER_02]: It had huge claws, snarling teeth, and a muzzle like that of a dog.
- 50:39[SPEAKER_02]: He said it was almost where we'll fly.
- 50:41[SPEAKER_02]: It was standing next to another more hideous creature, similar to that, but it was down on all force, snarling and bearing its teeth, almost as if it were a dog man and control of another more primitive dog man.
- 50:55[SPEAKER_02]: If it was almost like a werewolf with another werewolf on a leash.
- 51:00[SPEAKER_02]: this man was in belief that perhaps his use of the Ouija board in his home earlier opened some sort of portal or rift to another dimension that led this thing through or perhaps just the usage of the Ouija board was giving off some sort of unknown signal that drew these things to him.
- 51:21[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
- 51:21[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's definitely plausible questioning.
- 51:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 51:26[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they're on a something man.
- 51:27[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I think if if you're in the camp that you can use the Ouija board to contact spirits or demons It's not out of the realm of possibilities.
- 51:38[SPEAKER_02]: You can use it to contact any
- 51:42[SPEAKER_02]: Crypto-isoological paranormal creature.
- 51:44[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.
- 51:46[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have ever thought that.
- 51:48[SPEAKER_00]: Cause naturally your head goes to like ghosts and demons.
- 51:52[SPEAKER_02]: I'm shocked with the, the admin to the CE5 movement that more people haven't tried to use.
- 51:57[SPEAKER_02]: So we do board to contact other entities that aren't ghosts and stuff.
- 52:01[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, it's just so taboo, currently.
- 52:04[SPEAKER_02]: And if you look into, if you take a dive into the electronic, electronic communication with spirits, a lot of it, devolves into UFO's real real fucking past, that's so fucking
- 52:32[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like the UFO alien narrative forces that's way in there.
- 52:42[SPEAKER_02]: Like you look at some of them, M.I.B.
- 52:44[SPEAKER_02]: encounters early on.
- 52:48[SPEAKER_02]: Barker, one of the first guys that even coined the phrase, M.I.B.
- 52:51[SPEAKER_02]: talks about them contacting him via the static between stations in the radio.
- 53:00[SPEAKER_02]: fucking weird, which is so crazy to fucking weird and be terrifying.
- 53:05[SPEAKER_02]: Frank assumption, they're man to build the Frank's box, which is, which is like a a bigger version of the Ghost Box.
- 53:12[SPEAKER_02]: He was working on a machine that essentially does the same thing as a Ghost Box, but it does television stations.
- 53:19[SPEAKER_02]: It scans through analog channels of a television, just a static.
- 53:23[SPEAKER_02]: He got a picture.
- 53:27[SPEAKER_02]: You can only say is a M.I.B.
- 53:30[SPEAKER_00]: is a hat man can confirm I did see it.
- 53:33[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
- 53:34[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
- 53:35[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy and like he also got an EVP at the same time.
- 53:38[SPEAKER_02]: He got visual contact with the thing.
- 53:40[SPEAKER_02]: That says what I say we are monitoring you.
- 53:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 53:44[SPEAKER_02]: You know that we are monitoring you something about the father and the son like it's it's bonkers.
- 53:51[SPEAKER_02]: Again, the new Kirk's did a four part series on electronic voice phenomena and contacting spirits go watch it on an object's podcast, it's enlightening to say the least, but that's my series on Ouija boards.
- 54:07[SPEAKER_02]: I know it kind of went off trail there at the end.
- 54:10[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know what you guys think.
- 54:12[SPEAKER_02]: Is it nefarious?
- 54:13[SPEAKER_02]: Does the board nothing more than a tool?
- 54:15[SPEAKER_02]: Do these beings contact us as the humans of the conduit?
- 54:20[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
- 54:21[SPEAKER_02]: Can the board be lost?
- 54:22[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of interesting line of questions.
- 54:25[SPEAKER_02]: Can the board be used to contact more than just ghosts and demons?
- 54:30[SPEAKER_02]: If not, why not?
- 54:31[SPEAKER_02]: If yes.
- 54:33[SPEAKER_02]: Why yes?
- 54:35[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like a giant.
- 54:37[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's all here.
- 54:38[SPEAKER_02]: It's a bunch of cool stuff.
- 54:40[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, essentially kind of sort of yes.
- 54:43[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 54:44[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty sick, pretty fly.
- 54:46[SPEAKER_00]: Be fucking weird.
- 54:51[SPEAKER_02]: I would never, if I had, if I had a big foot, run through my camp, the very, very, very last thing I would think of would be to get a Ouija board and try to contact it.
- 55:03[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.
- 55:04[SPEAKER_02]: Kudos to John the wife, because she was thinking way outside the box, it's like, hmm, I almost feel like more people needed to do that.
- 55:15[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I agree.
- 55:16[SPEAKER_02]: I would be dope.
- 55:22[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, that's the conclusion of my little Regieboard project there.
- 55:27[SPEAKER_02]: If any of you have had any weird experiences with the Regieboard, even beyond the realm of spiritual contact, it's something weird.
- 55:37[SPEAKER_02]: Send it our way.
- 55:37[SPEAKER_02]: Woo, that's got some Regieboard story.
- 55:39[SPEAKER_02]: This spooky season folks, let's get it.
- 55:41[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be interested to know if any of our listeners had encounters with not ghosts or demons.
- 55:49[SPEAKER_00]: That would fuck me up if we had a mass and fuck yeah, we totally did.
- 55:54[SPEAKER_00]: I totally did.
- 55:56[SPEAKER_02]: Fuck weedies if you will.
- 55:57[UNKNOWN]: Hell yeah.
- 55:59[SPEAKER_02]: So again, thanks for hanging out with us.
- 56:01[SPEAKER_02]: Hope you enjoyed the show.
- 56:04[SPEAKER_02]: And check us out all our socials until we meet again.
- 56:06[SPEAKER_02]: Stay safe, stay weird, if you contact that big, but be the weed you poured.
- 56:09[SPEAKER_02]: Make sure you call us.
- 56:11[SPEAKER_02]: Send us a send us a voice now.
- 56:13[SPEAKER_02]: Get out of us.
- 56:14[SPEAKER_02]: We want to talk about it.