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The Dopest Comics To Cop In July 2025!!! (Comics Are Dope x Comics I Copped) · For All Nerds Show

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to what is the inaugural episode
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  Speaker 1: of I really don't know it's ther boy DJ Ben,
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  Speaker 1: I mean longside my man BJ kicks, and we're here
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  Speaker 1: to talk some comics. As you all know, this man
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  Speaker 1: right here is the legend behind comics are dope.
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  Speaker 2: Myself, huh, because I don't know about legend.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, come on, fair, come on, let's keep
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  Speaker 3: it real, keep it real.
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  Speaker 1: The YouTube is popping, you know what I mean, doing
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  Speaker 1: interviews with all kind of luminaries, you know, all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of people who cause a bit of rockers.
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  Speaker 3: In the comics industry.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that. We'll definitely get to that. I
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  Speaker 1: myself from DJ Ben, I mean, one of the hosts
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  Speaker 1: of four All Nerds. You might know me from my
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  Speaker 1: little hashtag comics I copped you know out there check
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  Speaker 1: it out, and a bunch of other few things I've done,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Hinds, Purple Hayes, Osten nominated, all that
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  Speaker 1: good stuff. We'll get more into that, of course, but
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  Speaker 1: today we're here to talk about our four favorite comic
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  Speaker 1: books from July twenty twenty five. Yeah, mm hmm, straight up,
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  Speaker 1: So what do you have up first.
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  Speaker 4: Oh up, first, Okay, let's let's let's go ahead. Should
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  Speaker 4: should we start hot? Should we start hot? You know,
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  Speaker 4: I'll put in a lighter one. Let's let's go speed
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  Speaker 4: Racer Issue one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, uh.
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  Speaker 4: You know this came out just yesterday, so last week
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  Speaker 4: of July. It's written by David Peppos, It's got r
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  Speaker 4: by David Tinto, coming from Mad Cave Studios, and it
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  Speaker 4: is pretty much exactly what you would you might expect.
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  Speaker 4: It is speed Racer, uh, in a comic book in
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. So for me, I read speed Race
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: Excuse me. I watched speed Racer as a kid. They
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  Speaker 4: used to do like these reruns at like ten PM
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  Speaker 4: on Cartoon Network. Wow, was absolutely past my bedtime. But
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  Speaker 4: I would like sneak turn the TV down real low
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  Speaker 4: because speed Racer was just dope. But I don't as
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  Speaker 4: much as I remember watching speed Racer, I don't really
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  Speaker 4: remember the plot of the of the story at all.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's just this dude, he's got this cool car.
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  Speaker 4: His family is basically like his pit crew, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. The car can like saw people and
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  Speaker 4: do all sorts of stuff, and he's racing which is fine,
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  Speaker 4: but half the time he spends like just being on
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  Speaker 4: the run or fighting against people that are trying to
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  Speaker 4: steal the car from him. That's pretty much the show
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  Speaker 4: from what I remember.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said you don't remember the plot and you
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  Speaker 1: just named it all other than you know, he also
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  Speaker 1: has the mysterious Racer X and yes, that's pretty much
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  Speaker 1: the plot of every episode of speed Racer. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And there's a little there's a little chimp, right, and
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  Speaker 1: that pretty much, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't remember like any overall story like, oh, no.
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  Speaker 3: Very much episodic.
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  Speaker 1: No, this is well before, well not well before, but
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  Speaker 1: speed Racer did not as far as I remember, because
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  Speaker 1: for me, speed Racing to come on reruns as well.
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  Speaker 1: But they were like, I want to say, early early
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  Speaker 1: morning or when you miss school you can catch speed Racer.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly when it was, but I caught
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  Speaker 1: a lot of speed Racer as a kid, and I
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  Speaker 1: remember no plot either.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so well, this basically takes that all those ingredients
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  Speaker 4: and then gives it like some heart. So as we
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  Speaker 4: open issue one, speed Racer is basically like he's he's
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  Speaker 4: too fast, too furious, right, because because some of us
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: jumped on with this second movie, not the first, right,
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  Speaker 4: And I was one of those, you know, like Tyrese Ludacris,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, cool, we can deal with this.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like he's doing underground street racing. He wants
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  Speaker 4: to be a Formula EX driver, which is the name
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  Speaker 4: of the racing circuit or whatever. His dad is very
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  Speaker 4: much against it. And so yeah, the first issue, we
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  Speaker 4: just get this really dope like race. He's running from
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  Speaker 4: the cops, he's running from whomever. Ends up at home
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  Speaker 4: in a confrontation with his dad, who's like, you know, clearly,
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  Speaker 4: you're out in these streets racing my car that I
• 4:35
  Speaker 4: told you not to be racing, you know. And then
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  Speaker 4: just like in the show, you know, there are people
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  Speaker 4: that are after this car. The car is of course
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  Speaker 4: built by his pops, so they're after this tech that
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  Speaker 4: his pops created, invented, and so there's a confrontation and
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  Speaker 4: we'll kind of leave on a cliffhanger for the next issue.
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  Speaker 4: But what I really enjoyed about this one though, was
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  Speaker 4: like all of that heart they injected, like you you
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  Speaker 4: know from the anime that you know, Speed has his
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  Speaker 4: brother that died allegedly, but he didn't really die. He's
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  Speaker 4: just Racer X. And that's gotta be the most jerk
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  Speaker 4: thing to do, by the way, Like, like your entire
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  Speaker 4: family thinks you're dead, yo.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder how I felt about it as
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  Speaker 1: a kid, because as an adult, it's like, Yo, that
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  Speaker 1: is some wild dude, Like for real, that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's cold blooded. He didn't like his family like that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only excuse I have for it.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's the weird part, right because he ain'ts around
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  Speaker 4: and around him it's his whole deal. There's no trouble,
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  Speaker 4: and Racer X will just like secretly help him and
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  Speaker 4: nobody knows who racor X is. It's like surprise, I'm
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  Speaker 4: your dead brother, you know.
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  Speaker 1: What I mean. Yeah, I never really really thought about it,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But it is quite true
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  Speaker 1: because that is like, that's a lot of grief that
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  Speaker 1: whole family holds every day of their life. The mom,
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  Speaker 1: the dad, every day, can't sleep at night, you know, etcetera, etcetera.
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  Speaker 1: Speed Racer. You see how then that boy is growing
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  Speaker 1: up not eating and Racer is just out there living life.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Fly car Fly outfit. You know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: nobody knows who he is. Everybody just like, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like.
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  Speaker 4: The whole heart of you know, speed racers relationship. First
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  Speaker 4: of all, Speed Racer. This man's real name, first name,
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  Speaker 4: last name, Speed Racer. The whole thing with Speed and
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  Speaker 4: Pops is Pops.
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  Speaker 2: Is like, look, I already lost the Racer family, mister.
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  Speaker 1: Racer. I mean, look, you know it's pre destined.
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  Speaker 2: I made my son Speed.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do much else. Bro, When your name is
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  Speaker 1: mister racer, you gotta be in the business.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, your last name is Racer. You're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have a son named Speed, but he's not the first one.
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  Speaker 4: Like the first kid gets a record, the first kid's
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  Speaker 4: name is Rex.
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  Speaker 1: Racer is pretty hard. That's dope. That's pretty dope, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. The literation always wins and road
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  Speaker 1: racer wasn't working.
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  Speaker 4: So but yeah, But the whole point of Pops in
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  Speaker 4: Speed's relationship is like I lost one son to race cars.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lose another one.
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  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Rex is on the track every week like, nah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not dead, I'm right here.
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  Speaker 1: That is insane. That's what I wonder Okay, I did
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  Speaker 1: read this as well, and I enjoyed it, especially the
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: relationship to building between Speed and what's her name because
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: she's from the show as well Trixie Tricksy, which oh
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: that's problematic, but yeah, what I did it. I really
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: enjoyed what they're building there. But I wonder will they
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  Speaker 1: get into this idea that Racer Rex Rex is causing
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  Speaker 1: nothing but drama and grief for his family, right, it
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  Speaker 1: has to.
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  Speaker 2: Come up.
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  Speaker 1: Because I never really thought of it. But it's terrific, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's kind of part of the
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  Speaker 4: whole point. Like Speed can't know Race Rex is brother.
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  Speaker 4: Have you did you read the manga?
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  Speaker 1: Like, okay, did they address it there?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I have the I've you know, and people always talk
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  Speaker 1: about how good the are, what Coouchy siblings, Speed Racer
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  Speaker 1: is and I've tried to watch it so many times
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  Speaker 1: and never really gotten through it. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: address it at all because that movie is like bright
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: lights and shiny things throughout. Yeah, yeah, so I doubt it.
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  Speaker 1: I would. I would feel like they had.
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  Speaker 3: To do it in the manga.
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  Speaker 1: I would assume so, but I feel like I've never
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: heard anybody even bring this up before. How trifling RACEO exits, Right,
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  Speaker 1: It's like this is something that we've been missing all
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  Speaker 1: the time because I just read the issue too and
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  Speaker 1: didn't think nothing of it, you know, and I know
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  Speaker 1: the story, but yeah, that is so trifling, right.
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  Speaker 4: Like, if you're gonna fake your death, like go move
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  Speaker 4: to an island or something, don't move next door to
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  Speaker 4: me and like always show up when I need something, like, oh, hey, neighbor,
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: here's a cup of sugar, like bro.
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  Speaker 5: But also like, if you're gonna fake your death, what
• 9:49
  Speaker 5: let's go back to that. Why are you faking your death?
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  Speaker 1: Like, and how do we even get to that point?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: It's presumed that he died and was not presumed. They
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: show he died in a car crash.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so like why did he need to fake? Did
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  Speaker 1: did he know? Okay, I get it. He knows that
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  Speaker 1: people are coming after the Pops, so he's like, I'll
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  Speaker 1: fake my death that way they think I'm did and
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  Speaker 1: I could come after me anymore and then I can
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  Speaker 1: stripe back in my pops entemies.
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah that makes sense, But at what point do
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: you leave your kid in the hospital and never come
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  Speaker 4: home with the body. Like what I'm saying, like for
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: his family, is it just like, no, there's nobody he
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: blew up.
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  Speaker 3: In the car crash.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, nobody recovers royal service.
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah du that man probably looked like Deadpool under that
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: racer ex.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see. Now there's so many levels to it
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: that I don't know if they're gonna ever get it
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: to in this book. But you know, like, did he
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: leaves somebody else's body in that car? Like?
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  Speaker 3: Whose body?
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: I thought we were starting off.
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  Speaker 2: Like we are so off the rails already.
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: But for as much as I'm being unserious right now,
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: I really enjoyed how much depth this book had emotion,
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: like it just I could identify, maybe not identify, but
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: I could. I could sympathize with every character's position. Right,
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  Speaker 4: Pop doesn't want to lose another son. Speed literally is
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: born to race. You don't give a kid a name
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  Speaker 4: speed racer, and I'd expect him to be racing cars and.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: Rugs right right, And.
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  Speaker 2: He pulls out the Brandon T. Jackson Speed.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, we're broke, I'm broke, but he pulls that
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  Speaker 4: out on his dad, like, look, man, we got all
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: these bills. The prize for this race is a million dollars, Like,
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: come on, be serious, I could do this, and we
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: have this car that we could use that you know,
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: nobody can beat this car. So it's like okay, cool already.
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  Speaker 4: This is way more depth than I remember from the
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  Speaker 4: cartoon at all.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, so I don't remember money issues, but it was
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  Speaker 1: always lighthearted money issues, you know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so so it's like you know, and even the
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: little kid, uh spritle right, he was a very problematic
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: character in that cartoon.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: He was between him and the monkey, like just the depiction, right,
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: all right, yeah, I don't want to think about it
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: too much. Yeah, but they gave him something to do,
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: like because he speed Racer's little brother is basically like
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: the bookie, like all right, you want to bet on
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: my little you want to bet on my big brother,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: coold to tender one whatever. Whatever.
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: He's collecting and giving speed his cut. Meanwhile, he's also
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: like managing the Instagram presence or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like he's.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Got it all going on. He's the he's the shrewd kid.
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's bow wow and Tokyo Drift like the Dog.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: It's sponsoring podcast. Oh all right, anymore speeds.
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: No, it was a it was a solid debut issue.
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: David Peppok's books are always good. The colors in this
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: are really good. Are reminds a lot of like, you know,
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: street racing, like video games. I used to play, like
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: Midnight Club and all that.
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  Speaker 3: The art is incredible all throughout.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: I was definitely I didn't I'm not sure if I've
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: seen that artist on anything but stunning work there.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was a great mashup of like
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: the Western and Eastern stuff because it's it was a
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: manga first, and it's got that sort of visual home
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: of a manga, but it's got the colors, it's got
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: the pair it's like everything.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: It was really good.
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  Speaker 1: Colors reminded me of like far Setter, the yeah type
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: of like really advanced coloring techniques and stuff. Yeah, really nice,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: really layered, right m hm.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's all I got was it was dope.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: You should buy it, all right, definitely got that.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: First up, I'm gonna start off with something. I think
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it really dark. Yes, you know, since
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: we decided to start you know, light and then went dark.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just go dark and then see if he
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: can go light. My first pick is a book that
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about. I read the first issue when it
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: came out, you know, four months ago, and then just
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: pretty much forgotten and then saw that the last issue
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: came out this week, and so I picked it up
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: and went back and read the other four And it's
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Out of Alcatraz, which is a five issue mini series
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: by the Eisner Award nominated writer Christopher Cantwell. They did
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: a Placid Man No More and Brier Want actually read
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Placid Man No More Now and Tyler Cook also Eisner
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  Speaker 1: Award nominated for Harrold County and The Loansome Hunters, and
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Out of Alcatraz. It definitely takes place. I want to say,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is like a nineteen seventies, nineteen sixties,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: but it's also kind of like one of those timeless
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: type books. And it's about four inmates who stayed from Alcatraz.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: And the book really kicks off from the first issue
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: with the four having.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Already escaped.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: And they're, you know, in Alcatraz, so they had to
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: estap over the seas and not all four make it
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: out from Trump. One doesn't even get out of the prison,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: he's still stuck in there. One the other four and
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: then one gets dropped in the water. So it's two brothers,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: and one of the brothers rose in the water in
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the first issue, so the other two were trying to
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: make their way. They meet up with their contact on
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: the outside, and the things go from there. And it's
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: a very criminal noir book. There's FBI and a Marshall
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: after them. I just really enjoyed it, like right off jump,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: like you're want to talk about heart and stuff, you know,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: you know these are hardened criminals. It really gets you
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: involved in everyone's story right away. Where after the first issue,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: even though I forgot, I really was like, damn, this
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: is a really good book because it's really not the
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: type of book that I normally pick up all the time.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: But you know, something about I was like, you know,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: whenever I see a first issue with an ill name
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: and out of Alcatraz just caught me. So I was like,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: let me check this out. So it got me. The
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: artists really nice. It looks like painted water colorish type art.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure how they're doing it, but It's a
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: very fluid and dreamy type of story, even though it
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: does get very violent, very dark, you know, like I said,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: criminal noir type story, la confidential, things of that nature.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: The fifth issue is out this week, and yeah, I
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: don't want to spoil too much because it is a
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: limited series and you know, things do as they go.
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  Speaker 1: But it's one of those uh no country for old
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  Speaker 1: men type stories. Well, you know, it doesn't end well
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: for everyone. I'm not sure it ends well for most
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: of the people. You know, it just ends. Things don't
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: end well. You know, it just ends, as they say.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: But I thoroughly enjoyed it after I caught back up
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: on it. Like when I was reading the issues today,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I was reading through them like I was chewing through
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: those issues, like, yo, I need to finish this joint,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and not just to be reviewing it tonight, but I
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: really wanted to find out what happened at the end
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of it. So it had me from start to finish
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: out of Alcatraz both. I mean, all five issues are
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: out right now, you can check that out.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that joint.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I might have to check that out in trade. They're
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: doing a hardcover in October.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the publisher on that?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Only Press, Yes, Only Press, shout out the Only Press. Yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Definitely worth it for the hardcover because, like I say,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: it's great five issues, like tight story, there's a lot
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: of different elements to it beyond just the criminals.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Their contact on the outside is a.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Woman who is of mixed race and white passing, so
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: there's that type of element in the story.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: The FBI agent.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: And the Marshall who are following them are actually gay lovers,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: so that's also going on. So it's like everyone has
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: these other sides to them and multiple layers to the characters,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and all of this stuff gets involved.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: In the stories they're going on.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And the last thing I want to say that I
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: really loved about it is it's one of those stories
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: where plot happens for like things just interfere, you know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: like everyone's got a plan so they get punched in
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the face.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: It's this type of story where.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Everyone has a plan and then everyone gets punched in
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the face in various ways, and your plans just go
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: completely different than you what you thought you were going
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: to do at the start of the story, and everyone
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: ends up in places that I did not expect. At
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the story, and it was really great,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: especially the last issue, a lot of twists to get
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the characters today ending where I was like, h very satisfying.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: That actually sounds like it must be a theme of
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: campwell because I read most of Plastic Man No More, okay,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: and basically, you know, Plastic Man was a criminal. Yep,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: he got these these mobster right, and so the series
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: is basically about how he was not really a redeemable
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: character necessary you know, he kind of he went straight.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: You know, he's going with the Justice League, and there's
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: this whole thing where it's like no one ever really
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: took Plastic Man seriously. Like they've got these these flashback
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: sequences where he's like with the League and he'll bring
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: up like some real point and everybody's gonna last them off,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: like it's like the end of.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: A Super Frans episode or something, and.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: He's just like yo, immediately yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: And so so like those that's happening in the flashback sequences.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: But what the what drives the plot forward is Plastic
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Man is disintegrating, like whatever the accident that like made
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: him plastic Man end. The result of that is that
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: you basically like just liquify and die, and so that
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: process starts for him and he's like, yo, I have
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: a son, Like I don't want this to happen to him.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I gotta like warn him. But he's a strange from.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: His son, and it's like his ex wife because he
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: was like he was not a good person.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: So the whole is it three four issues.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: It's like his journey trying to like connect with his
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: son to you know, hopefully like one find a cure,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: but also like have his son give him the time
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: of day so we can give him the cure. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: so it's like, you know, what kind of redemption can
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: he find through this process even though he's accepted that,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: like he probably doesn't it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So it was dope, No.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely checking out immediately because cam Well had me
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: with this five issue series. I love a writer who
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: can just get me in that first issue and then
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: deliver such a solid story in five issues. I'm gonna
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: be thinking about Out of Alcatraz for a long time after,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you know. But it was only five issues and they
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: packed a lot into it, so I definitely got to
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: see this placid man now.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Dope, okay man. We left that on a little somber note.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: So let's turn up the Shenanigans. Let's talk about Marvel
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Knights the World to Come. Issue two came out this month. Now,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. The reactions were varied, yes, but there
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: was very much a collective gasp at the end of
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: issue one. For those who aren't familiar, there's a white
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Black Panther. Now, you know, series takes place as a
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: sort of epilogue to the original Marvel Nights Black Panther run,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: and so it is an alternate universe, which I don't
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: know how they're making that work there.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the original Marvel Knights wasn't an alternate universe.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Well, like technically it was, and then they kind of
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: just folded everything in.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I never knew it was. I mean, I wasn't reading
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Black Panther like on the Dot at the time, but
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I was reading Marvel at the time, And yeah, I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: didn't know that that whole thing was. But I knew
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Max was like kind of alternate, But.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was again, I wouldn't then,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: But like the way I understood it was, just Marvel
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Knights was kind of more mature themed, a little bit like, yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: a little bit more daring in the storytelling. I don't
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: know that it was set up as an alternate universe,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: like in the way that Ultimate was at the time.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Ultimate, because that's what really got me back
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in the comments was the Ultimate Universe, and Marvel, you
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: know at the time was Ultimate and New x Men
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: was really like I mean back in the Marvel I'll
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: reading those pretty exclusively. But I knew about Marvel Knights,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: and I never considered it to be you know, I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, that's Daredevil. That's a blade. I think
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: black panther cage. I think it was up in there
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, so I knew that, and I'm
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: just like, all right, that's you know, those they want
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: to be adult, but they're not comics. You know, That's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: how I looked at them, gotcha.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: So yeah, So but according to Priest and Casada, this
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: is it's in its own universe, so like, whatever happens
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: there doesn't affect everything else, why not?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Right? Sure? So, I mean it it's affecting everything else,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: no matter where it happened. Right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Well, now you know they also just announced the Marvel
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Knights punisher. Oh so it's we're gonna get like a
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: maybe now Marvel Knights is going to be his own
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: little universe and they're going to keep spinning out more.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Oh so wait, this is the fun This is where
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that new punisher, like how to bring it back Frank
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Castle again? This is where or did they bring him
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: back in the six month six already?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: So there's no they they haven't brought them back in
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: the six one and sixty yet. Okay, but to my knowledge,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: there are like two Frank Castle Punisher series in the
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: works because there's like a yeah, I'm sure I thought
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: X type deal coming well as this new Marvel Knights
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: punisher that's also coming.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: So it's to be a Black Punisher in Marvel Knights.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Probably not, but uh yeah, so Marvel Knights, the World
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: to Come opens up like but they it's got this time.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: It's this you know, it's the classic Priest thing where
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: you know, every few pages you're in a different year
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: and he's telling you different parts of the story kind
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: of all at the same time. And so what we
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: find out is that the main plot of the World
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: to Come is happening like forty years after the original
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Black Pan the number one that Priest did, and so
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: an issue one all we really saw was the state
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: of the world is kind of crazy.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: We don't really know.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Everything is like, you know, dystopian future.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: And then we see T'Challa in tribal combat, and you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: at the end of the challenge, it's like, oh, surprise,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: this son I've been talking to. The whole issue is
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: white and so, you know, for the last month we've
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: been like, how this is child I have a white son?
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Is it that white dude that Monica Lynne was with
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: when he proposed? Like what is going on? And we
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: get all those answers an issue too, so an issue too.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: We find out that it was Everett Ross's kid the
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: whole time, Everett Ross had a kid with Nicki. Not
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Nicki from the State Department, but Nikki from the State
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Department's twin sister that we never knew existed. So he
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: has this kid, had this bastard child because he never
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: like claimed the kid. Somehow Wakanda found out about the
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: kid and like went and basically bought the kid from
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: his grandmother and to use as to Childa's hair because
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: to CHILDA needed an air. They got pregnant, but they miscarried.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Like I'm spoiling this whole issue, by the way, my bad.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But all good because I have so many questions. I've
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: read the issue as well, and I'm like, why didn't
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: they just pay for some black kid? Why ever it
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Rosses did? Like what is the lineage here other than
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it's Ever Ross?
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I don't I don't understand why. First of all,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: they're in like, you know, the most technology advanced country period, like, yeah,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: they couldn't have done in vitro, like there.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Was no test to babies nothing like.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: So yeah, why ever, Ross, you couldn't get a better
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: white kid than that?
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I guess because Priests, you know, invented every Ross and
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: was like, you know what, let's bring this back.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, because I've been searching my brain trying to
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: figure out whyever Ross other than you know that answer,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: because it is it like ever Ross saved to Challa's life?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And then what's up with the whole deal with Mephisto?
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Man, So the deal with Mephisto happened like way back.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah that was in the original run, and I don't
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: know how that's legit. Like the first issue with Black
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Panther is is Everett Ross recalling this time where Black
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Panther Outsmart and Mefisto. But while you know he's encountering Mefisto,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: he like tricked him into like selling his soul for
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: a new pair of pants, and like that's like a
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: recurring joke throughout the run, like he'll just wake up
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: with no pants or whatever.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, they brought that back in.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Issue Too, Okay, but yeah, like it's it's interesting on
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: one hand. First of all, this book, the first issue
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: had me like because they, like I said, they tell
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: the story and all these different snapshots from different periods,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: so we're like forty years in the future, sixteen years
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: in the future, eight years in the past, like all
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: this going on and like so and then they have
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: a timeline in the back of the book and that
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: part is even more interesting to me. And so the
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: first issue came out and I was like, yo, know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I got to figure out what's going on. So I
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: like wrote out the timeline and kind of placed all
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: the events in order. Issue one we find out Child's
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: got his white son, like how we get his white son?
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: So Issue Too is basically the story of how the
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: white Son came to be. Yes, And like I said,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: you know, we had this mysterious narrator and issue one,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: this super old pale guy turns out that narrator was
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Everett Ross the whole time, and.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yes I didn't I guess I got that. And then
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, yeah, all right, yeah, okay, I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: got it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: So when I interviewed priest for something else, but this
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: issue has come out, and the way he said it
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: was like it should have been obvious who the narrator
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: was because and like you know, once he said it,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I guess this makes sense. Like Ross
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: was the narrator in the first run, why would Ross
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: not narrate the coda to the run? But it didn't
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: come across that way to me either on first read.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: But an issue too that it's made very clear, like yep,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: this is this is back to You're basically right back
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: in the Marvel Knights world as it was before every
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Ross with a snappy dialogue, all the jokes, you know'tually
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: insensitive and all that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: So it's Ross for whatever reason.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: You know, Nicky died and he decided to just marry
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: or to and sister like that was a replacement of something, right,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Like that's weird.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of weirdness in this book.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this world is like super chaotic. There's all kinds
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: of crazy stuff going on. The way Nikki's sister died,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: what is the sister's name something with an end, Noel. Yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: so the way she dies, the Washington Monument like falls
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: on her car. Yeah, like it's like what but yeah,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: so Washington Monument falls in the car that the maastard baby.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Wakanda adopts the baby and to Chila basically just raises
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: tobass his own. Now in this timeline, like or in
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: the back matter, there is this article like almost like
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: an Encyclopedia entry where somebody is this dude they call
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: it was William McGregor. So uh, but he's talking about
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Wakandan culture and explaining it to the American reader, you know.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: And he makes the point that people in America look
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: up to T'Challa as though he's some kind of hero yep,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: because of his outfit, like because he looks like the
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: superheroes there too. But he's like, he's not a superhero.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: That is like his ceremonial garb, and his only objective
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: is to do whatever's best for his country because he
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: is a monarch yep. And so that part was super
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: interesting to me because then it's like, okay, with that
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: as a backdrop, this is all to child is born
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: and bred to do. What is it about this this
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: white baby? Yeah, maybe the tactician in him is like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I gotta go get that kid and bring him here.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: It does not make sense, man, I'm sorry, like at
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: least so far, you know. Yeah, and being like from
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: what I understand because I haven't read all of a
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Priest's original run the Elliott Ross of that universe, this
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: is a bit of a buffoon.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So it's like you can't imagine, like these are good jeans,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: you know, shout out to Sydney Sweeney where you're like,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get this white baby. I mean, you
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: could go get Sidney Sweeney's white baby for that matter,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm sure the quality is about
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: to say, but you know, you can just got to
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: be a better white baby out there. I'm sorry if
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: you're gonna like be if you're gonna say, Okay, I'm
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: gonna have a white monarch of Wakanda out of nowhere
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: for no reason, like why what would the people think,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: you know, where did this white kid come from? It
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: would be my first question I follows of Wakanda, Yeah,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: like how did this happen? And so that's the other
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you have no white wife like this white I don't
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: even I doubt the average of Kanda has any clue
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: who Elliott Ross is true? True, like any clue, right,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: but must be so weird the the when they bring
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: when they when he brings home the white baby, everyone
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: is like advising him against this, like I mean, why
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: why do you have this baby? What are you doing?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Sir?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: And so I want to see the twist that Chila has.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't see how, but I just want
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to know that, you know somehow to be a twisted
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: is that it is made logical sense?
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: At this point, I'm I'm very much intrigued. Yeah, you know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: like I'm all all the way.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for this book every bore.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and like I guess and in that way,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: it's it's brilliant, Like the other book has you feeling
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: like this right now?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: There are other books different different reasons. This is like Power,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you know where I can't wait to watch new episode
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: of Power because I just know what they're gonna give me.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: So priests characterization up to child has always been like
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: he's nineteen steps ahead of you, right, yeah, So with
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: that characterization in mind, I'm like, Okay, what in the
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: world is the end game that has this as one
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: of the moves on the chessboard?
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Like and it's like that, I gotta see, I just.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Wanted to white work kinda you know what I mean.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: But it's like that's not even achievable through this. It's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I keep going back to how the average condo of
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: must feel like one day, you Know'challa's they're getting old
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and then suddenly this white kid shows up and beats
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: his ass on the waterfall and he's like, because you
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: had no idea that nobody knew about this white boy
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: before that moment, right right until he pulled his mask
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: off the like maybe like the elite knew, but that's
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: it right, everyone else thought.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, they gave him a black.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Name, Like, yeah, well, I think Wakandon knew about the
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: son because they're saying he raised him as a son.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: He's yeah, so you must have taken him out to
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the parking and yeah, but what the okay again, then
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: with the multiple questions and the average Condon, the Wakandon
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: inquirer must have been going buck wild with this one, bro,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: because you had two black wives and then suddenly you
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: have this pure white baby, pure white, pure blonde there,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: straight blonde hair, blue eyed, white baby, right, Like, I.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Don't know, but you know what's got me?
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Uh even looks amazing.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: There's a cover they just put out the cover for
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: issue five in October, and it is you know, baby Ross,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: you know, in full black panther guard minus the minus
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: the the mask, sitting back watching the news with a
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: cup of coffee, like just super pleased with himself.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Wait, Baby Ross, Oh, I mean I.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Mean Kama Katama.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, all right, I'm I'm just glad you told
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: me about it so I can forget and see it
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and you know, cry laughing when I see it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Like so, And like I said, that's the other thing
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: that I think is fun about this. It's like I'm
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: reading this with the context of like all the other
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Priests stuff that I've read before, right, And he plays
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: with race a lot, yes, you know, like Quantum and
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Woody even that Black Black Adam series he just had.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Like there's always some like commentary that some twist and
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Ross's character is enough. Like alone, it's like, yo, that's crazy,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Like why why is this man's a racist? And that's
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: the fun part of this issue too, Like you're reading
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: the narration, he's like, yeah, man, you know, Wakanda still
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Wakanda fighting over whatever and people braining hair in the background.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, that's crazy.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, and Priests is very much online, he's
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: very much seeing the responses said thing right, he's plugged in.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, this just feels like the whole audience
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: is like on a string being played and it's fun.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: It seems fun.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: It seems fun now right now. My only thing is this.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I'm praying not that this turns out to be like
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Mark Millar woned, you know, where it's like the joke's
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: on you at the end, you know, ha haha. I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: made all the money, I caused all the controversy, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: then you're left with a you know, white to.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: Yallamm Well, it's set up so that that doesn't happen,
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: because when T'Challa dies an Issue one, it's like sixty
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: years in the future and he's still on the throne.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: So let's but what is the whole world to come?
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: And why is it so chaotic? And yeah, the way
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: it seems, it seems like white that 'challa does a
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: lot of horrible stuff.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Does a lot of damage.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: It's like putting Scar on the throne and age right
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: or Ja'afar the same same concept. Yeah, Pride rock Jafar
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: and Agraba, Like the economy is gonna tank, it's it's terrible.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: It's gonna pass the big beautiful bill and then they're
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: gonna see like the of it. Right, And so the
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: story is apparently of what Ross's kid does while he's
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: on the throne, how it throws the whole world into chaos,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: and then presumably how T'Challa gets the gets control of
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: the wheel back.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Now the question is like, is it too little, too late?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Is he gonna right the wrongs?
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Or is he just gonna die having ruined Watanda's legacy
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: all because he decided to, you know, invite the Fantastic
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: four over one day for a visit.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: So I mean that, you know, that could be a
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: good message, you know, as they said right there, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: don't ever let him in. But I also don't know.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a pretty you know.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: It's harsh. Oh man. I know everyone out there has
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: heard about this book.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: It is from our WA.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Studios, a w A studios. I guess, shout out to
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: who's over there from USA. Alonzo, my brother saw Alonzo.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Shout out to him. And they're doing a lot of
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: interesting work over there, and this book is one of them.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: This book is flying off the shelves. Everyone's talking about it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: They Choose Violence Sheldon Allen. It's a story of four
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: black women who decide to choose violence. Literally, they basically
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: all get fed up. They've been fed up with things
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: their whole life. It starts off you see them in college,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and you know, they're just tired of everything that we
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: deal with as black people in America every day of
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: our existence, and what we've been dealing with, you know,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: since the inception of America and probably what we did
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: them for a long time, and they're just tired of it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: So they say, well, why don't we just you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: kill someone. When a police officer gets off for shooting
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: a young black boy, why don't we just kill that cop?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: And that's what they think about in college. But then
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: they decide not to do it, and then years later,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: once they're all established, one of them actually becomes a
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: police officer. Another one I think is an attorney. They
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: all have you know, successful careers going on, and they're like, well,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's time now. Another incident happens and
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: they they're pushed over the edge basically, but they're not
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: going to just do it haphazardly. They all train, you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: one as a police officers. So they go to the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: shooting range, they start working out, they start planning, they
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: get their lists, they check it twice, et cetera, et cetera,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: until they're ready to go, and then they choose violence.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: And I mean they choose it. It is a super
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: like I talked about out of Alcatraz that has nothing
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: on the level of violence in this book. This is
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: not for kids, This is not for the squeamish. This
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: ain't even for me. Honestly. For a lot of it,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I was even like, yo, this book is just a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: bid into the ultra violence, and especially in the second issue,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: they really get into how graphic the violence save and
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: acted on these people, and the different methods of torture
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and how they all have their favorite method. Let's just
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: say one of them involves a spike buildo that they've
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: named Lexington Steele.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That's a choice.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: It's a choice, right, And that's how like the first
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: issue had me, right, I was all in on it.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, yes, you know, because that's a concept.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I did a short film back at Howard University called
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: The mad Face Killer, which was about this dude who
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: you know, puts on the mad face and starts going
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: around murdering politicians and lawyers and cops and everything in
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: that nature. So it's, you know, a dream that we've
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: all pretty much had at some point, right, you know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: probably or maybe just me, you know, I'm a little touched.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: But I also just you know, the mad Face Killer
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: was just out shooting people. There was no need for
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: torture and this lexings and steel references and the twist.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I will spoil this because this has actually been spoiled
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: in all the press and everything. The twist at the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: end of the second issue is that a copycat killer
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: starts going around killing black people in the same fashions
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: that they've been killing people. I was whelmed, honestly by
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: this twist. I was like, really, well, to the point
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: of almost underwhelmed, to the point of almost like disagreeing
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: with it, because black people in America have been getting
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: killed in horrific ways since its inception, since before it
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: was called America, you know, I mean, horrific does not
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: begin to describe it, and on a scale unbeknownst to
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: humanity before it's started here. So to the fact where
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you know, Nazi Germany copied our methods to instill the Holocaust.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: So the idea that you know, for black women killing
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: some people, would it might inspire a copycat killer.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: True, But the idea that that's.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Like, oh no, we shouldn't be killing people because we
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: have a copycat killer is wild because it's not like
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: if you stop killing people, the cops are gonna stop
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: killing people. And to me, it doesn't matter how many
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: cops you kill, the cops are still going to kill
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: black people. You know that that's just the sad nature
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: of the system. So yeah, the second is you kind
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: of had me man where I was trying to like, ah,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I really would love to talk to Sheldon and the
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: other creators of this book, and I'm definitely gonna stick
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: it out to see where it goes. But I definitely was.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Kind of like, I don't know, man, I don't know.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's interesting, all right. I'm not one for
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: grotesque violence just for the same page all I'm probably
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: never reading this book straight up, but like the idea
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: of like people being fed up with the system and
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: going out, all right, we're going to take matters into
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: our own hands, and I can get I can get
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: with that with degree. I agree, right, like.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: If just there being a copycat killer would not be
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: enough for me to stop that, if that were the mission.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so now I'm I don't know if I'm
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: curious enough to read it, but you have to tell
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: me how it is as it is.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will because it's only five issues, so I'm
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: going to stick it out for the next story and
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: see what happens. But I have to say that being
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you know, the big twist that you know is turning
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: to issue three. As we're getting into the second app,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like, you know, because they'd already
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: you know, decided to give up at one point because
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: they were like, Yo, this ain't working, you know, et cetera.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And then they realized that they basically can't even be
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: which was. It was like, I had a lot of
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: questions about the second issue, because the crew decides to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: stop murdering because you know, different reasons. You know, one,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: they know they'll eventually get caught all this stuff. So
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: when they stop murdering, it's like they can't be friends again.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: And the writer even has a line where, you know
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: this is coming from the narration of one of the women,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: where he says, I'm gonna tell you a secret. Women
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: can't stand each other, like even as friends, like best friend,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: women can't stand each other. M that really struck me weirdly,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Like that really was like, wow, that sounds like some
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: of that red pill stuff. Yeah, and like basically this
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: prove of women could not remain friends unless they were
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: out murdering people.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, and it's not said, you know that men
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: can't stand each other, which, you know, it made me
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: feel a little bit better. I mean, untrue, but I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: mean I can't stay in a lot of my homies,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: so I get that, you know, but like the fact
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that you know, we still remain friends without going around
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: murdering people. And I would not think that most women
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: need murder to remain friends with other women, right, I
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: think women are naturally more communal than men. Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife's and mom groups and all kinds of stuff.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Like I can go years when I was talking to
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: my best friend in the world, no, you know, right, shout.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Out to my brother Drew, Like, I mean, we talked
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: more than years, but it has been years of points
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: and you know, to be interestingly hel together. But yeah,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: yeah that. Like I said, there was a lot of
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: stuff in the second issue where I was kind of like, wow,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it's doing. I'm still intrigued. The
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: level of violence is a little rough for me. I'm
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: never a fan of torture at all in any circumstances.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: So and that's when it's like just you know, cause
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: first I think, Okay, they're just murdering these chaps school,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. But then when they introduce oh no,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: we're torturing them in horrible ways, I was like, yo, bro,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: they're trying to die at the end of it. It doesn't matter,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Like if you torture them and let them live, maybe,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: but you killed them. It doesn't matter how much you
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: torture them. So you know, like that's for your pleasure
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: at that point, and That's that's really weird.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: So, like, do these is there any communicated Well, like
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: I get the why they're killing people or torturing or whatever,
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: but are they communicating even notes or anything to say like, hey,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: we'll stop killing when y'all stop killing black people.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I think there might have been, but it doesn't feel
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: like that because when they took a break, it wasn't like,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: you know, they'd accomplished anything, because they went back to
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: murdering later on and nothing had changed. So yeah, no,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think so I had to check. But like
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I said, the amount of the description of the level
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: of torture, and in that line about women not being
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: friends and the fact that this crew couldn't hang out
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: until they murdered somebody else, like literally they get back together,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: you know through it's four of them, like three of
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: them planning this murder for one of them's birthday. That's
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: that's the thing that's weird because a lot of choices, man,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Like I said, a lot of choices are being made
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: in this book. I was really intrigued by the premise
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: and in that second issue, you know, but I you know,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I know, we said this is our favorite books in
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the month and I don't know, this was one of
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: my favorites, but it was one of the books for
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the most. I was like, yo, now I really got
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: to see what happens. That's mom. So in a way,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I guess this is my the.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: World to come?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Bay Okay.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah, just like the World to come, I didn't
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: agree with all the choices, but I'm still intrigued to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: know to see where it goes. So and they didn't,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: at least at least the plague of a White to
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Challah on us.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: That was great.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: He never given that down, Bro, Never Ryan Cannon, Now
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: you're Cannon, Like yo, I was so young, Crew, I
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, bro, there's going to be a Marvel legend.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: There's absolutely going to be a Marble oh quick.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm buying and putting them right up in my
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Wok conocession. I might have to put him on the throne.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Take off. I got the key on the throne right now.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: But why Tolla come out of going up there?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, please give us a white to child
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: of Marble.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. You can started bugging then yet, But
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I need to all right, what's your next book? Yeah?
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: So, speaking of torture and grots murders. So Beneath the
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Trees where the Right of Spring issue number one came
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: out this month.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: This being the sequel to the Breakout series from Patrick Horvath,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: who writes and draws this book Beneath the Trees where
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: nobody sees the original series.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: What's about this this bear?
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Uh? She looks like something off.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, something off, like the busy world of Richard Scary,
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: like something like that, Like this this is a bear
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: that you grew up watching on Nick Junior. Yes, But
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: and she lives in like this, you know, mister Rogers
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: type small town where it's like everybody knows everybody, Like
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: your local grocery store is like the farmer's market, you know.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: You don't go to home depot, you go to the
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: local hardware store that's like owned by Harry and it's like, oh, hey,
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: what's up. And so anyway, she's she's living in this
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: small town. And what we find out in the first
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: series is that she lives in this small town that's
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: like all nondescript and everything. But she's a serial killer.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: And so she told.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Every every so often. I don't know if it's every
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: weekend or what.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: But it's like every so often she will just drive
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: to like the big city, right, So, you know, let's
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: say she's from upstate. She drives to the city, kills
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: somebody because it's like it's city life. Nobody will ever
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: notice they're missing or whatever. They'll never trace it back
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: to me, goes back and keeps living her small town life.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: So in the first series, what happens is there's a
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: murder in that small town and it's kind of like,
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: you know, in the same way that she might do it.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: And she's like, if people come digging trying to find
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: whoever killed this person, they're going to find out that
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: I'm a killer too. And so she's got to solve
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: this murder before the police do. And so and she's.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Trying to everybody's animals, right, and everybody's animals.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Everybody's yeah, okay, And so it's like, what's the part
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: that was crazy about the series is like this juxtaposition
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: of the like, you know, it's all these cute these
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: cute animals or whatever, but there's all this like murder
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: going on, like and these people are dying and being
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: like put on display in the craziest ways. So it's
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: like that body horror, like all that stuff you don't like, right.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: And and to be fair, I don't either, but the
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: fact that the animals I was cool with it.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I was cool, we are right here.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: We are, so, you know, spoil alert, you know, big
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: cuddly Bear doesn't get caught in the first series. Nice,
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: and I'm just like, okay, cool, this is a nice
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: little you know, one shot series or whatever.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Well, in the sequel, what.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: We get is like the sister of one of her victims,
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Like we find out that it's been like eight years
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: that have passed her brother went missing, and she's been
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: hounding the police hound in all the hospitals, like okay,
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: every time a corner report comes along, like let me
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: go see if this is my brother, trying to identify
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: the body. This takes place in like the early nineties,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: so it's like or the mid nineties, so it's just
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: at the beginning of like the Internet and message boards
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: and stuff. And so now she's got like she's on
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: her computer no, and she's like you know that basically
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: this girl's full time job is trying to find out
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: what happened to her. For all she knows missing brother,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: and so she gets a tip to go to this
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: small town of Woodbrook book because there might be some
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: clues as to where her missing brother ended up. And
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: so now that brings us back to the town with
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: the big cuddly bear that's been perpetrating all this And
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: to spoil the end of issue one, it turns out
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: the bear is who invited the serial killer invited the
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: victim's sister to the town.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Oh God, and you.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Know, we leave it right there. I don't know why
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: she invited her. I don't know if like the plan
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: was like, you know, let's let's kill the sister too.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: She's asking too many questions. I don't know. But what
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: I enjoyed about it was like when I heard they
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: were doing a sequel, I was like, this book did
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: not need a sequel.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I don't need more of this.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: But then, like when you read the first issue, it
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: just feels like it could have been like issue seven
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: of the first series, Like it was a logical jumping
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: out on point, like well, yeah, where, because the whole
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: the idea yea, was that because these the victims were
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: all from the big city, they're like these John does
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: nobody cares about him?
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: It'll never come back.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: And it's like, well, no, all these victims, there's got
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: to be at least there's there's somebody's son at the
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: very least, somebody's child at the least, right, but they
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: might have other family loved ones in life. How would
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: that impact those people? And I thought that was an
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: interesting enough question to come back for this series. And
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: it's got me intrigued for a round two.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: All right, just like you felt about their truth violence.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: I probably will.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Never read this book. I read the first issue of
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Beneath the Trees. I think my man Dmitri recommended to
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: me at Anyone Comics because he's an asshole. All right.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, but again, it was very dark for
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: everyone out there. It's very dark as hell. But like
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: BJ said, the art is bright and colorful and cheery,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and it's like, dude, do doo. You know, I'm just
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: a little bear, and you know, here's my rabbit friend.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: And it looks like you said something, but it looks
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: like there was this kind of like what's to do
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: with the fist?
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Oh? Arthur?
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Arthur?
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Ye, it kind of looks like.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: It looks like Arthur. And then Arthur's murdering everyone in
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: horrible ways.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: Right, yes, Like just so, this is one of those
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: books that is deceptive, right, I have to hide it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I have three kids, and it's one of those books.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: They will absolutely open it if they just saw. Wow, No,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: you cannot read this book. Wow, Like you know that.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: I think we're far enough into this not to get demonetized.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: But in that first issue that Ben's talking about, she
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: kills this dude, chainsaws his body into a bunch of bits,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: puts all the parts in like individual paint cans, and
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: buries the paint cans in the forest like that there, Yeah,
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: beneath the trees where nobody would see that.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Now the title makes sense. You did that. I didn't.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't even connect that.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: That's oh no, yeah, I caught it right away. I
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: can't believe.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: And so I think the art style, like for me,
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: somehow takes away from the grotesque nature.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, definitely does.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: It's pretty water colors and stuff like it almost makes
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: you want to like just like sit there and look like,
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: oh this is so pretty old.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Snap, that's an intestine like that. It's how you feel.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: That's the same thing about Out of Alcatraz. So that's
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: what Out of Alcatraz immediately reminded me of Beneatha Trees.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: It's different because it's humans, but it still has that
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: water colory, dreamy feel where it's like.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is so beautiful. Oh my god, that's horrific.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: You know, that's how it is because it's so beautiful,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: and then horrific stuff happens and you're like, oh my god,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: this is a very dark book.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: So it's that same type of vibe, gotcha. Yeah, it's
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: just with humans. And nowhere I have to say, you know,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Beneath the Trees is definitely, at least off that first issue,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: like on magnitude scales of more violent than Out of
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Alcatras by madness.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: For me, I think Beneath the Trees the original series
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: was more about the mystery than the murders, and so
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: that first issue you do spend a lot of time
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: like seeing her going through all the violence or whatever. Yes,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: and in subsequent issues there is still the violence, but
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: you're mostly seeing like the result of it because like
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: putting the bodies on display, not seeing the act go
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: down because they don't want to reveal who it is
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: doing it.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: So no, but it's still even the other one we're
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: just about. They choose violence. I think it's more description
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: than even Beneath the Trees, deput beneath the treating, like no,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: you know, here's this dude chop up like it's a
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: lot more description, and they choose violence than that. But yeah,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: all right, oh, I'm still not going to cheer it up.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna save my my goofiness for the end of
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: it all, and I'm going to talk about a book
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: that will probably be I don't want to do this
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: book every month, so I'm just trying to do it
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: right now and then we'll see how it goes, because
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: it probably could be in my top four and usually
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: is for me every month. And that's Power Fantasy. Depower
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Fantasy by Kiaren Gillan and Casper Wing God. I think
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: that's how you pronounce the last name, I believe. So, yeah,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: two of the greatest out right now. Kieren is a
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: friend of mine. Actually now, I've been a fan of
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: his forever and you know, we became friends over the years,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: and so I'm a bit biased, but I also just
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: think the Power Fantasy is just an excellent, excellent read
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: every month. Karen knows how to tell a story, you know.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: That's the one thing, like Karen really knows how to
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: give you cliffhanger after cliffhanger, how to give you enough
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: reveals and enough information where if you're paying attention, you'll
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: get it. But if you're not paying attention, or to
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: go right over your head and you'll be sitting there like, oh,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: why did I not see that? It was right there?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Like he did it to me repeatedly on The Wicked
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: and Divine. There's so many times where I was so mad.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: And if you haven't ever read The Wicked of Divine,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: it's to me, probably in my top five comic books
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: of all time, top three, I don't know, maybe one,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. It's one of those books
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: for me. But the Power Fantasy, the series, let me
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: give a quick synopsis of it is about. It's a word.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: It's its own world. It doesn't take place in any
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: other universe that you know. And in this universe, it's
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: just like our own, except there are six or seven
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: at any time superpowered people. And when we talk about superpowered,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: they're called atomics in this universe, and the atomics are
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: each one of them is equal to the level of
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: a superpowered nation. Like there's Ettien, a black man telepath
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: who is Charles the Xavier on crack you know my
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: man is you know, Charles to the tenth power. Then
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: there's the Heavy, who is a gravity manipulator who can
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: literally and at one point threatens to throw Texas into orbit.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: And so it's a book about these five or six
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: or seven people who are constantly maintaining this cold war
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: status between them all because if they ever fought, it
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: would destroy so much of the world, right, so they
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: have to constantly maintain this thing. So it's a book
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: about superpower is without any real fights in it, and
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: there are massive displays of power at certain points, and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of things have happened. It's an alternate universe
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: type book where where it's going back and forth. It's
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: jumping around from different times where it's going to end
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: pretty much in nineteen ninety nine, and it goes back
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: to nineteen forty five. I think it is when the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: first time a bomb drops and when the in this
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: world which creates the first atomics.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: Gotcha, I did read this series. I'm trying to remember
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: how much of it I read. I think the first trade.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: I think I might read like first two or three issues.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: Oh man, I was intrigued by just the the whole
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: idea that is, like, all right, you better hope diplomacy works,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: because ever go to war.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: That's it for everybody.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: No, it's like I said, I'm a fan of Karen
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: in general. If you like you know his other work
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Wicked and Divine, Young Avengers Die. I think this is
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: definitely up there with any of them. It's one of
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: my favorites from him. I've never read read Casper's art,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: but I became an instant fan of him. I got
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: him to do a step for me. I bought piece
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: of art from him. And it's just this book where
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: things are being revealed. I wouldn't even say slowly, because
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: it's a lot happens, like in issue ten, we finally
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: will finally, but the real of Jackie Magus, who is
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: exactly behind the masch happens. And that's all I'll really say.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: But once again, this is one of those things where
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I kind of noticed there was a similarity. I'm like, yo,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: what is going on there? Why do these characters look
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: like that? You know early on in the series, and
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: then it all comes together and this issue and like
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: you idiot, it was right there in front of your
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: face the whole time. Of course, that's why those two
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: characters look like that. But it's building to a head
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: in the next few issues. Karen has talked about different
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many how long this book will
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: go on. He says he has a format where it
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: could be sixteen issues, or it could be twenty four,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: or it could be up to like forty something, So
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure which Timeline's working on right now where
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: it issue ten and themes are popping off. I'm like,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I'm really not trying to spoil too much of this
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: book because it's just one of those books that I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: think that everyone should give a read if you're intrigued
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: at all by the concept, because it's one of those
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: was where things are happening every issue pretty much, where
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: those are major spoilers, especially as we're getting into this
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: second arc where there's a lot of revels happening issue
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: after issue. But man, it's been a beautiful ride so far.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Like I said, Casper's art alone, Man, it's just some
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: of the most beautiful and then horrific art you will
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: ever see, because, like I say, these dudes have enormous power,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: and when things do happen, they happen. At one point
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: they had to confront this interdimensional being called the Queen,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: who was basically trying to bring Heaven on Earth and
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: was succeeding, and then for some reason it felt like
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: they weren't doing enough. It's not enough in the words
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: of Kendrick. And when they realized that, they went buck
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: and that ended with the destruction of England and all
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: land masks pretty.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: Much up to a part of Russia.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: So all of Europe and you know, a little bit
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: of Western A turned nothing.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's the level that they are on.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: You know, when this interdimensional being comes in and shows you, Okay,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: this was what happens if any two of us ever
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: go at it, we lose the continent.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: So this, like this series.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Came out basically right on the heels of the Immortal X.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Men, like all that Fall of X stuff, yep.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: And you know when it was the reviews then were like, okay,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: so if you like the Quiet Council stuff, this is
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: what Kieran would have done if like he could do
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: whatever he wanted with the X Men. How accurate is
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: that statement now that we've got like so many issues in.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: I honestly didn't feel it was even that accurate thing,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: and I think Karen would agree, because I thought Immortal
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: X Men and what was an infernal x Men when
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: they flipped it to the sins of Sinister stuff? Was
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Keran just really wilding out, you know, because they go
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: to its extremes that well, I didn't even enjoy it
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: all that much. I thought some of the you know,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I love the Kacoa era, it is my favorite arab
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Edgmond since probably you know, original Claremont stuff and Morrison
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: of course, but you know some of that with the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: dominion and everything, so like all right whatever, and like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Charles and Xavier, you know, commanding galaxies, et cetera. It
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: just felt a little silly.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Honestly to me.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: It was just a little like, okay, you know, it
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: is that we're in a Sandbots type of situation and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: let's all mash these characters together. Yeah, this is not
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: that at all. This is very methododical. I guess it
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: is maybe in the sense that if you had the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Quiet Council and what Karen would do instead of doing
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: you know, let's all mash each other together. But I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: didn't because it's so different from you know, what happened
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: in Sins and Sinister and some of his immortal edsmen run.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't compare them at all. Okay, Yeah, it is
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: a very It's a book that takes a lot of
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: time to really distress the ideals of what is ethical
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: versus what is moral, and things of that nature. And
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I actually confronted Karen on it when we interviewed him
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: about it, because I felt like a lot of the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: characters were being ignoring the rules of what Ferris Buhler said,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: or they're spinning a lot of isms like Ferris Bueler.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: At the end of this film, I think when he's
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: given one of the speeches, I can't remember what point,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: but he's like, I don't believe in isms, you know, socialism,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: you know this ism, communism, basically saying all these systems
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: are just systems and you know, humans fuck up, system
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: placing f up. I'm trying to keep my curse into
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: a minimum on this.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: I'll believe that.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: But I challenged him because a lot of the characters,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: like at TNS, this black man who's a Teilpath and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, does Etien believe that he's black? And
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think he does. You know,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: I think he's above all that because he's just such
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: an insane level of telepathy. And Karen said no, and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: we'll see that. I still have not seen that yet.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I'm still not the biggest fan of et End in general,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: but I think that a lot of what Etien says
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: he is. Aten's always someone who says, I'm taking the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: ethical way out of this. He's like, I'm not moral,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I'm ethical, so I do the ethical thing, which in
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of cases is horrific. But like at one point,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: when Heavy is threatening to throw Texas into orbit, he
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: kills the at the end and said, kills the president,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: all the President's council, everybody involved in this plot to
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: kill Heavy, and he does it, you know, with his
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: telepathy and a whap, all of them die. And he's like, well,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: that's more ethical than you throwing Texas into orbit. But
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: it's still a horrific action.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: And he's making these crazy decisions.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, and a lot of what he says and does
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: to me rings false. It reads of someone who's just
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: saying it to say, because he even makes one statement
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: that is really disturbing where he has said he affects himself,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: he uses powers on himself, so he doesn't really have
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: any guilt.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: M I'm like, that sounds like a white man no shots,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: But so again, though, I'm quite intrigued. One spoiler in
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: this issue, two characters say they have three days to
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: kill at the end, and I, you know, jumped out
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: of my seat screaming like, yes, it's my two favorite characters.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna kill him both though, But
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens. The Power Fantasy All
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: to Sail Now, it's an incredible book.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: I really encourage everybody to.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Check it out. Yeah.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: I have to get back on that. So my last book,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: UH is another serious debut. It is the unchosen issue
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: from Image Comics. Okay, so this is written and drawn
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: by David Marquez, who is the artist on Unkenny X
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: Men right Now with Yiel Simon.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, Kenny Unkenny is the one with UH.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: The they're in New Orleans with Rogue on.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: The team and the New Kids. Is that the New Kids? Yeah? Okay, okay, okay,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: I don't really know his art like that, but I
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: feel like I've seen him on something before that I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: know the name.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: Probably I want to say he was doing a lot
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: of covers and stuff too. Okay, you've seen his work
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: most likely. So that's what had me intrigued about this series.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: So the unchosen it's about this young lady named Aida,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: and it's I think it's only a four issue mini series,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: and to be fair, first issue doesn't really tell us
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: a whole lot that kind of just drops us in
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: this world. But Aida, uh, they basically is she's in
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: this world. She's going to like this magical school, Like
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: basically she's at Hogwarts, right, and she's doubting herself. She's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: down on herself because she's not as naturally gifted in
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: like magic as you know, her peers, and so like
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: there's the Malfoy stand in who's like, you.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Know, just cruel to her that the whole thing is
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: like she.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: Should have the power to like you know, she's trying
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: to resurrect this bird.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: One of her friends.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: Comes across a dead bird, so she's trying to like
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: use magic to bring this bird back to life. But
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: she can't do it because she's not as gifted. So
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: the bully kid comes and like basically torments her with
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: the with the dead bird, like inmateing the bird's body,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: and so to retaliate, she just punches the kid in
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: the face.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: And that's where like the world kind of opens up.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: What we learn is like she's at this school not
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: because you know, she's the most talented or gifted or whatever,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: but like something happened and the sort of head masters
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: of this school kind of adopted her, just kind of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: brought her in to this school type situation, and she
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: is basically on the run or they are shielding her
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: from these outside forces that are trying to like capture
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: her because it is believed by everyone, perhaps except her,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: that she's like she's neo, she's the one, like she's
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: Harry Potter or whatever.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Potter.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's like the whatever destiny is on her,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: they're trying to bring it out of her, and she's not.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: She's not seeing how it's gonna how it's gonna work.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: For me.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: I watched one and a half Harry Potter movies, right,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: so you know, I know certain characters and that's kind
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: of what got me with this was just the way
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: they talk about magic, right, the ability to use magic
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: is known.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: It's like your mastery of the word, the words of magic.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: And so the book actually opens up like this sort
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: of title page and it just says in the beginning
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: was the word I mean, I'm always gonna I'm always
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: a sucker for like religious references, right, Like, Okay, So
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: because I'm listening to an interview and he's like, he's
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: not crazy religious. He grew up, like you know, in
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: a religious household, but he's not really practicing or anything
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: like that. So it's like, okay, like what what are
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: we going to do with this idea? If we're going
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: to pull in these religious themes and quote scriptures and stuff, like,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: how does that?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: How is that going to relate to this world?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: So I'm curious of like what the world building is,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: who these people are that are after Ada, how long
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: it's going to take for her to like master her
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: powers and then like save the day presumably against these
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: sinister forces. It was enough to be like intrigued for
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: issue too. I concern though, is that, like I said,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: we didn't get a whole lot in anyone beyond what
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: I just told you. And so it's like, is there
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: enough time to even build this story in four issues
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: to you know, give it a real you know, rise
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: and fall. But I don't know is it is.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Are you a black woman?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: No, nobody black background background.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Character, but they're they're all white or.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's white.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean David Marquees.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: You know, I was expecting you know, those spice up
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, I lied.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: So the little boy that she's trying to help resurrect
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: this bird with is definitely a black kid.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Wait, I did read this book, Okay? I think am
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I just confusing that with Christopher Chaos now because Christopher
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Chaos erected Bird. I know, I feel like I did
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: read this book. When when did this drop? This's like
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, the beginning of the month.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: I want to say, yeah, maybe yeah, because it's been
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, I think I think I did. I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: ought to go look it up again, but I think
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I might have read that because I always, like I said,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: if I see a new number one with an interesting name,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I always try and give it read. And I think
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I saw the Untros because that's a name where I'm like, okay,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: I gotta chet that out.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just a fire name.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, I think I'm got to reread
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: one and then go for number.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Two, because yeah, it was. It was interesting enough.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: The uh, all these characters we got on the first
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: on the cover to issue one, we don't really see
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: a whole lot from them, so I'm curious to see
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: how they all play in to it.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, for my last book, I
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: will finally bring something a little bit more cheerful and uplifted. Well,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: I can't say this book is uplifting, but it's definitely
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: cheerful and hilarious. And I really did not expect to
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: enjoy nearly as much I expect.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: It to not like it.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I went in with like whatever, and I loved it.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: God Zilla Destroys the Marvel Universe Issue one by Gary Duggan,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Who's done a lot of X Men stuff which I've
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: kind of liked and kind of didn't, and Javier Garon
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: is a penciler. It is exactly what the title says.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Godzilla shows up in the modern Marvel Universe and immediately
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: starts wrecking shop. I loved it. It's just it's it's
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: like one of those books that knows exactly what it is, right,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: like a celestial. I think it's a woken by Godzilla
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: or Godzilla is a woken by the celestial. So Godzilla
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: attached the celestial and the Narration is sitting there talking
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: about how the celestial is designed to exists in the
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: heart of the Sun and the coldness of you know,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: interstellar space, but not Godzilla, and then Godzilla tears the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Celestial's head off. But it's that type of book. At
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: one point, more Man gets punched in the face because
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: all the hero are trying to be mad quiet and
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: let Godzilla just walk away because they can't do anything
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: about them, and oh Man like shoots him in the back,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and enrages him again, and so Red just
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: punches mo Man face like idiot. It's just, you know,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: it's that type of silliness in this book. I'm not
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: sure if any of the heroes actually do get murdered
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: in the first issue, other than the Celestial getting his
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: head torn off, but Godzilla is wrecking shop throughout the
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Marvel universe. I think I enjoyed this because I picked
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: up the first issue of that Avengerance versus the Alien,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: which is just I don't know, just like it didn't
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: do it for me. I never went bad for issue too.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: I just like, come on to see avengerance. They should
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: rub out like a planet of aliens. If they feel
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: like it doesn't brud they got acid blood. I'm totally stark,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: you know, like I literally have no I'm for a god. No,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: it's not you know, we're not the same. So yeah,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't really enjoy that. I know they had a
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: spider man versus a Predator. I think that I absolutely
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: am intrigued because I love all the predator crossovers, Like
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Predator versus Archie is one of my favorite books ever.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: He spoiler, he murders them all. It was amazing.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Did you read the Predator versus Black Panther?
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not to go back for that.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: That one.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: That one was good too, Like I didn't even finish it.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: But what I enjoyed was just the Predator had a
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: legit reason to be fighting Black Panther. That happened, But
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: that was that was dope, okay. But Godzilla destroys the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: Marvel Universes. First of all, I thought this was because
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: you know they've been doing this Godzilla versus Marvel character
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: here and so when I saw I saw the solicit
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: for a collected edition of this, first I thought that
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: was those stories being collected. I am, okay, it was
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: a separate series. Yes, but I picked up issue one
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, and uh no, it it's just like
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: you said. I mean, it's just it's not taking itself
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: too seriously. This is very much like what would happen
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: if Godzilla just came to Manhattan and decided to set
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: up shop, like.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: And it does.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: It does spend a fair amount of time just telling
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: you how much like Godzilla is inevitable and no one
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: stands a.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Chance of the celestials head like yeah, and no problem.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: So the so the rest of the issue is basically
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: just like you know, every hero you can think of
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: coming in giving you like two or three lines of
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: dialogue basically say this. So there's nothing I could do
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: with this, you know, but for.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Men of them trying to be quiet.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: That that was fun for me just seeing all the
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: different Marvel characters and like, you know, you didn't have
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: to spend a lot of time doing characterization. But I
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: feel like he got the voices in the question.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Because read punching more man like you idiot, was just
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: like that read Like someone asked me today on Threads.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: They were like, if you know, because if we were
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: talking about on fall nerd sure, honor, if you a
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: fantastic four that it was very nice to see a
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: more intelligent Johnny Storm than his normally portrayed. And someone
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, Sue is smart and Johnny smarter.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Thing is smart. What's the difference. What's reed? Got? I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: was like, but he got being an able. He's got
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: that down, pat bro, That's all. None of the other
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: fantastic war could they claim to that one, like you know,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: being a complete monster read got it? You know what
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: I mean? You got that?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I felt like this got it down.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: Nah, I'm sitting here coming through the issue again, cracking up.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: It's it's this is the type of book you need, right, Like, yes,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm going through. I got to cut stuff from
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: my poll list. Like if I don't make cuts, I'm
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: spending like ninety dollars a week.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Oh god.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: So it's like, all right, we got to cut some
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: stuff off. It's probably not going to make not going
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: to survive the round of cuts. Yeah, but this is
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: one of those books that's like, man, you got that
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: a heavy poll list you got, especially you start pulling
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: all those indie titles and some of them just like
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: super serious and existential dread and all that this is
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: a palate cleanser.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, because like I said, I did, I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: went in with a hateful face, and I think as
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: I think I saw in a preview, you know that
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: he tore his head off, and that made me like, nah,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: I got to see, you know, because I've read that
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: line of dialogue where it's like, you know, you can
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: survive all of this but not God. So I was
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: all right, this one gets it.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: That was a bit with like you know that first
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: page that all starts Superman.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: You know, just yeah, being like brilliant, which this is
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: not going to come through a camera, but like everybody's face.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Right, it just they got nothing from working, Like oh
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: my god, I just said I to be quiet and
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: try and let him leave. I can't get over that amazing.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: He just just hope he goes away, my god.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: So yeah, like like B like BJ said, man, if
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 7: you you know, if you got too many of them
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 7: darkness books on your pull list, you know, if you're
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: Like That's how I felt when.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I looked at him. I say, you know, I'm reading
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: all these you know they choose violence out of Alcatraz,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: you know, even the Power Fantasy is you know, very
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: much morality, you know, ethics, you know, and all this stuff.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, I just need to see this, and
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: it was just what I needed, Like I need a
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: book like this every month.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: Honestly.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be to the Other Streights the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Ball University, but every month I need to be reading
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: something like this that is just utterly ridiculous and honestly
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: gets what comic books should be, you know, cause that's
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: to me, Like you can do all that other stuff,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: but sometimes you got to get back to you know, ridiculousness.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just gotta read something fun.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, ah, you know, before we get out of here.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Speaking of reading something fun, Jimmy Hendris Purple Hayes co
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: written by me and my brother Mellow Brown Eisner, nominated
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: for its colors by the one Justin Prokowitch, with of
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: course the amazing art by Tom Man Drake is in
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: stores now, selling out as we speak. The first run
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: is done at production at the publisher. It's over so
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: The copies that you see in stores right now are
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: the last of the first run, so go ahead and
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: get one. If you want to sign copy, hit up
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Anyone Comics. We'll put the link down in a bio.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: I know BJ has a local common store that he
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: wants to give a shout out to as well. Sure.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, if you're in the Raleigh area, you know,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: come through Fight or Flight Comics in the Triangle Town
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: Center Mall. I believe they have copies of this book
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: on hand as well.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: I got to come down there and do some signing, man, real, Yeah,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: they would love to have you. Yeah, we'll definitely have
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: to set that up because I gotta get down there.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: How far is Durham from there?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: Durham and Raleigh are like neighboring towns.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: Oh bruh.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: I got to because I just I did a retreat
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: recently and one of my brothers who I met there
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: is from Durham, and so that's why, you know, I'm like,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to every town these people are in.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: So I'm down there soon.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: You know, you're in Durham less than thirty minutes.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm there. Okay. We will set this up very
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: soon then be definitely.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: All right, before we get out of here, please, you know,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: tell the people where they can find you at and
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: all that good stuff.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know, I'm BJ Kicks on all the socials.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: If you're looking for my channel, it's called Comics Are Dope.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: I named it that because they are so find me
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• 1:25:07
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• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: My partner Tatiana King, where we distress geek and pop
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: culture from the perspective of people of colore and like
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: we've been saying over the last year, from black people,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: because you know what I mean, some of youall people
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: of color, I gotta get your minds right out there.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: So we from black, black, black, and the black people too.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: For black people anyway. Yeah, it's for everyone, but it's
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: from the perspective of the black and I mean black nice, nice, yes,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: but thank you to everyone, like I said, for joining
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  Speaker 1: us here on this. Uh, comics are dope and and
• 1:26:00
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• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: a better name for it. But you know, there's a
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: lot of comics and we'll be back next month. Well
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: this is August by the time, y'all hear this and
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: see this, but will be back next month for the
• 1:26:15
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• 1:26:17
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