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Birds Weekly: Derrick Gunn, Ray Didinger Preview, Predict Eagles Week 4 Game Vs. Tampa Bay Bucs · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Everybody. He's ready to drum.
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Speaker 2: Derek Gunn, this is Birds Weekly and his time to
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Speaker 2: look at the upcoming matchup against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
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Speaker 2: and Ray. When you look at this matchup, the Eagles
0:20
Speaker 2: have gone down to Tampa and lost three of the
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Speaker 2: last four down there. Obviously the heat humidity had something
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Speaker 2: to do with it. But let's start with the biggest
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Speaker 2: problems in terms of the Eagles dealing with the Buccaneers,
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Speaker 2: Todd Bowles and that Tampa to defense. Why is it
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Speaker 2: that particular defense gives Jalen Hurt so many problems.
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Speaker 3: It's it's not an accident, you know. I mean, it's
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Speaker 3: not like it's a coincidence. There's it's happened often enough
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Speaker 3: that there's a there's a connection there. And you know,
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Speaker 3: Todd is and always has been the same kind of coach,
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Speaker 3: same kind of play caller, whether he's a defensive coordinator
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Speaker 3: or the head coach. I mean, he runs his defense
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Speaker 3: the same way. They play a too deep coverage, but
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Speaker 3: they mix in a tremendous number of blitzes. They blitz
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Speaker 3: a lot, uh, and he does he does a very
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Speaker 3: good job of disguising them. I mean, he shows he
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Speaker 3: shows you one thing makes you think the pressure is
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Speaker 3: coming from here, but it's actually coming from there. Uh.
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Speaker 3: And he builds his defenses that way. He calls very aggressively.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 3: And he's very good at taking away the things that
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Speaker 3: you want to do. So I think in this game,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be real curious see how Todd approaches it.
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming that he's going to want to come out
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Speaker 3: and do what the other defensive coordinators have done, which
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Speaker 3: is take Barkley out of the game. Let's you know,
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Speaker 3: let's shut down the running game. Okay, Well, if.
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Speaker 1: You're going to do that, then.
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Speaker 3: Are you how much are you going to get after
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Speaker 3: the quarterback? You know, it's going to be a little
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Speaker 3: bit of a push pull kind of thing between Bulls
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Speaker 3: and Hurts and his own coaching staff of how they're
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Speaker 3: going to approach this. But it's a very clear pattern
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Speaker 3: here that that Hurts has not played well against Bulls
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Speaker 3: coach defenses. And that's something that the Eagles look, they
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Speaker 3: have whole they have this whole week to study the film,
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Speaker 3: study the tape. They've played the Bucks often enough that
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Speaker 3: there's enough tape to look at and come up with
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Speaker 3: a better plan. Than what they've had before. But I
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Speaker 3: mean what you said at the start is true. I
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Speaker 3: mean the Eagles have gone down to Tampa Bay twice
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Speaker 3: now the last couple of years and he got blown out.
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Speaker 3: I mean the game, the game last year in Week
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Speaker 3: four game, they went down there and they got blown out.
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Speaker 3: And then when they went down there the year before that,
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Speaker 3: the playoff game, they got blown out again. And so
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Speaker 3: they're very aware of what they're walking into. Yeah, they're
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Speaker 3: three and oh which is good, but the Buccaneers are
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Speaker 3: three and oh two. And I just saw a stat
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Speaker 3: this week that the Buccaneers getting to three have done
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Speaker 3: something that no NFL team in history has done, and
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Speaker 3: that is they have won all three of their first
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Speaker 3: three games. They got to three and zero, winning three
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Speaker 3: straight games in the final minute. Yes, So that tells
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Speaker 3: you that no matter how this game starts, the Buccaneers
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Speaker 3: are gonna they're going to approach it with the idea
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Speaker 3: that we're going to be in this to the end.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: So teams like that that have that kind of belief
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Speaker 3: they're hard to put away. So the Eagles better, I mean,
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Speaker 3: I know they've had a tough stretch. The Dallas game
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Speaker 3: was not easy. Ye in the city was not easy,
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Speaker 3: and the Rams game certainly wasn't easy. But they're gonna
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Speaker 3: have to suck it up and get another big effort
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Speaker 3: because the Buccaneers are going to be a challenge on
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Speaker 3: Sunday Ray.
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Speaker 2: How much of a character building mode is that in
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Speaker 2: terms of when you can come back like that in
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Speaker 2: consecutive weeks. We've seen how it works for the Eagles,
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Speaker 2: But for a team like Tampa Bay that overall doesn't
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Speaker 2: have the same quality of talent that the Eagles do.
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Speaker 2: They're very talented team, but man for man and a
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Speaker 2: roster not as talented as the Eagles, what does that
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Speaker 2: do for their confidence? Because you know, I think when
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Speaker 2: we talked about playoff teams in the NFC, Tampa Bay
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Speaker 2: was like near the bottom of the teams you might
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Speaker 2: have considered. Now, the way they're playing, fighting tooth and nail,
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Speaker 2: the way they're finding ways to win games, you have
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Speaker 2: to put them right in the mix.
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Speaker 1: As a serious continued at this point.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you do. I mean, when you and
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Speaker 3: I were sort of handicapping the races before the season started,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we both were talking about the
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Speaker 3: NFC South was a weak division exactly, and our feeling was, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean the Buccaneers, I mean, they'll probably win that
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Speaker 3: division because there's just no other really good teams there.
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Speaker 3: But you look at them now, and assuming it plays
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Speaker 3: out that way, assuming that they are in the playoffs,
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Speaker 3: which I believe they will be, no the way they're playing,
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Speaker 3: I think they're dangerous, you know, because they have that
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Speaker 3: if they keep winning games like this. I mean you can,
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Speaker 3: people can call them lucky or whatever, but look looking
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Speaker 3: at it from their side, it just gives them tremendous
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Speaker 3: confidence and a lot of it, a lot of it
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Speaker 3: really comes from a quarterback. I mean, you know Baker Mayfield,
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Speaker 3: if you followed him all the way back to college
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Speaker 3: where he won the Heisman Trophy, He's always been that
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Speaker 3: kind of quarterback. He's always been this really resourceful, gutty,
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Speaker 3: never out of a game, scrappy kind of guy, and
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Speaker 3: just natural leader type that. I mean, he's bounced around
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Speaker 3: a lot and people are saying that always not that good.
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Speaker 3: He's another one of those Heisman Trophy busts and so forth,
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Speaker 3: But it's really another one of those cases of a
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Speaker 3: guy that just needed to find the right situation yes,
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Speaker 3: and he found it in Tampa. He got down there
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Speaker 3: with the team that needed that kind of leadership, He
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Speaker 3: got down there with the team that had a couple
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Speaker 3: of really good receivers, and it all just fell into
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Speaker 3: place for him. And right now, they believe in this
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Speaker 3: guy and they think they can win with him every
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Speaker 3: time they line up, and I'm sure that's the attitude
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Speaker 3: they're going to bring into this game one Sunday.
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Speaker 2: I will go so far as to say, at this
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Speaker 2: stage of his career, Baker Mayfield, through three games, still
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Speaker 2: a three game sample, is playing probably the best football
8:27
Speaker 2: of his career.
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Speaker 1: I'm not basing it on stats.
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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes we in general get caught up too
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Speaker 2: much on statistics. But you you just worded it so
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Speaker 2: eloquently in terms of moving the team, using his feet
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Speaker 2: to pick up key first downs, making the key throws.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's only completing like sixty one percent of
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Speaker 2: his passes, sixty two percent of his passes, but he's
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Speaker 2: made the necessary throws, the big throws when he had to.
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Speaker 2: I was watching one of the games when it was
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Speaker 2: a fourth down situation, he took off and picked up
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Speaker 2: like fifteen twenty yards with his legs in the drive,
9:00
Speaker 2: and they moved in and scored a testdown off of
9:02
Speaker 2: that particular drive. I think Baker right now, at this
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Speaker 2: stage of his career, is playing his best football, and
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Speaker 2: I think is significantly because of what you just said.
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Speaker 2: He finally found a system, a scheme that caters to
9:15
Speaker 2: his strengths more so than his weaknesses.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they he has a lot of autonomy. I mean,
9:22
Speaker 3: if you watch them games, are they sending plays in
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Speaker 3: to him? Yeah, but you just get the feeling that
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Speaker 3: he's calling the shots out there. I mean, he's all
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Speaker 3: He's always been that kind of quarterback, which I think
9:34
Speaker 3: accounts for what happened to him in a couple of
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Speaker 3: other places that that that other teams wanted a quarterback
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Speaker 3: they had a little more control over. Baker kind of
9:42
Speaker 3: wanted to do his own thing, and that works in
9:45
Speaker 3: some places, not in others. And but I think he's
9:49
Speaker 3: got a team around him in Tampa Bay and a
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Speaker 3: coaching staff that is giving him that kind of authority,
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Speaker 3: and he thrives at it. And you're right, I mean
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Speaker 3: he's not you know, he doesn't run like a Jalen Hurts.
10:02
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't run like a Lamar Jackson. I mean,
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Speaker 3: he's not that kind of guy. But if you but
10:08
Speaker 3: he'll hurt you, you know if he if if he's
10:11
Speaker 3: if you leave a gap open on a third down
10:14
Speaker 3: and six, he'll run you for nine and ten and
10:17
Speaker 3: move the sticks. I mean, whatever it takes. In this sense,
10:21
Speaker 3: he's a little little bit like Hurts, maybe a lot
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Speaker 3: like hurts and whatever it takes from week to week
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Speaker 3: to win the game, that's what he's going to do.
10:27
Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 3: And you know it's I always liked him in college,
10:33
Speaker 3: I really did. I thought he was fun to watch
10:37
Speaker 3: because he was a guy that had he just had
10:41
Speaker 3: a lot of moxy, you know. And uh, and it's
10:44
Speaker 3: it's showing now. And he throws the ball. He's not
10:49
Speaker 3: afraid that he's not afraid to stick in the in
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Speaker 3: the tight windows. And they have they've had some injuries
10:54
Speaker 3: on the offensive line. So Baker is Baker. I mean,
10:57
Speaker 3: you know what you're going to get out of him.
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Speaker 3: But he needs to protect and he needs his best receivers.
11:01
Speaker 3: And maybe the Eagles get a little lucky this week
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Speaker 3: and maybe the maybe the Bucks will show up a
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Speaker 3: little shorthanded. Uh.
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Speaker 2: I just read a report that said Chris Godwin couldn't
11:11
Speaker 2: make his season debut Sunday against the Eagles, and of course,
11:15
Speaker 2: obviously Mike Evans suffered a hamstring injury uh in their
11:19
Speaker 2: their win over the Jets.
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Speaker 1: I hope, I hope god was not playing.
11:25
Speaker 2: But if one of those guys are playing, you know
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Speaker 2: that that's gonna give this Eagle secondary another test. The
11:30
Speaker 2: Eagle secondary that's still growing into what I'm sure Big
11:34
Speaker 2: Fangil wants it to be. You know, add some problems
11:37
Speaker 2: again against the Rams, but it's a it's a it's
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Speaker 2: a secondary that's still find against Knits, trying to find
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Speaker 2: his identity and its continuity early on in this season.
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Speaker 3: It is it is, And if if they had their
11:53
Speaker 3: full compliment of receivers, I'd be a little concerned about
11:56
Speaker 3: that because there's no matchup in there that to me
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Speaker 3: is a good one for the Eagles at that second corner,
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Speaker 3: you know, I mean either Godwin or Evans on a
12:05
Speaker 3: Dori Jackson with scare of.
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Speaker 1: The daylights out of me.
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Speaker 3: I mean Evans, you know, because he's played in Tampa
12:13
Speaker 3: and because they are not you would consider a truly
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Speaker 3: high visibility team. I don't know if people really fully
12:22
Speaker 3: appreciate the kind of career that guy has had, I mean,
12:25
Speaker 3: cranking out thousand yard season one after another after another
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Speaker 3: after another. I mean he is I mean, there's no
12:31
Speaker 3: question he's the first ballot Hall of Fame guy. There's
12:35
Speaker 3: no doubt about that. And that's kind of player he is.
12:40
Speaker 3: And if you're the Eagles with some of the issues
12:42
Speaker 3: you've had in your secondary that would be a real concern.
12:46
Speaker 3: From what I'm hearing. I'm kind of hearing what you
12:48
Speaker 3: are that Godwin is trending towards playing. I think you'll
12:51
Speaker 3: see Godwin on Sunday.
12:53
Speaker 2: You know, Tampa Bay is not known for being this
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Speaker 2: prolific running team, but they're averaging four point three yards
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Speaker 2: to carry, right, you expect them to try to tack
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Speaker 2: the interior the way the Rams did.
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Speaker 1: I think they will.
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Speaker 3: You know, I would expect them to because a lot
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Speaker 3: of the stuff that mayfield seems to work best. He's
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Speaker 3: very good at the play action stuff, you know, and
13:15
Speaker 3: come out and they'll run the ball, have some success
13:17
Speaker 3: running the ball, and they will start running play action
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Speaker 3: and hitting you with big plays down the fields. That's
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Speaker 3: when he's at his best and also on the move.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I.
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Speaker 3: Would expect them to come out and run the ball early,
13:31
Speaker 3: especially when they look at the film of what the
13:33
Speaker 3: success that the Rams had in that. I mean, the
13:35
Speaker 3: Rams ran the ball pretty well against the Eagles, so
13:38
Speaker 3: I think the Buccaneers will try and do that too.
13:41
Speaker 3: You know the Eagles. I mean, you mentioned it earlier
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Speaker 3: that the Eagles have had no luck in Tampa Bay
13:48
Speaker 3: at all. I mean the I think of the last
13:52
Speaker 3: seven meetings that teams have had, the Eagles, Egles were
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Speaker 3: one and six the last seven times that played this team,
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Speaker 3: and a couple of a couple of the beatings were
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Speaker 3: pretty one sided in Tampa Bay's favor down there. That's
14:06
Speaker 3: just it's just never an easy place to go play,
14:09
Speaker 3: especially early in the season when when it's brutally hot
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Speaker 3: and humid. And now with that team at three and oh,
14:18
Speaker 3: you've got an energized fan base down there. I mean
14:20
Speaker 3: those buccaneer fans who who kind of come and go,
14:24
Speaker 3: you know, like a lot of the Florida NFL fans.
14:26
Speaker 3: It's one of the things I noticed traveling around. You know, Florida,
14:29
Speaker 3: Florida is all about high school and college football. Absolutely,
14:33
Speaker 3: high school football is huge in Florida, and we all
14:36
Speaker 3: know that college football is huge in Florida. And honestly,
14:39
Speaker 3: in the state of Florida, NFL football is in third
14:42
Speaker 3: place in terms of now the people turn out. If
14:45
Speaker 3: the team's winning, you know, they'll get on the bandwagon.
14:48
Speaker 3: But if they're just so so or less, not much.
14:52
Speaker 3: But right now people kind of are on the band
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Speaker 3: on the Bucks bandwagon with a three and oh start.
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Speaker 3: They're going to turn out and they're gonna turn out
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Speaker 3: number Now. I know the Eagles fans will be there too,
15:02
Speaker 3: because it's a nice trip for Eagles fans, and they'll
15:04
Speaker 3: be down there and you'll hear some Eagles support. But
15:06
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay fans are pretty excited about their chances
15:09
Speaker 3: this year as well.
15:10
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Speaker 2: of course at this time of the year, it is
15:15
Speaker 2: still hot, it is still humid down in Florida, and
15:19
Speaker 2: weather sometimes can be a significant part of the psychological
15:23
Speaker 2: warfare when you're talking about playing a game like this.
15:27
Speaker 2: Our colleague and friend John Clark reported that the Eagles
15:30
Speaker 2: plan on going down to Tampa on Friday instead of Saturday,
15:34
Speaker 2: and possibly having a practice session on Saturday. Good thing
15:39
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15:41
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Speaker 3: they get down there. But yeah, I mean, for an
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Speaker 3: extra day to kind of just get acclimated down there,
18:48
Speaker 3: it's probably not a bad thing. And I think it's
18:51
Speaker 3: gonna be another tough one, you know, I think, you know,
18:54
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be another one of these end
18:56
Speaker 3: of the fourth quarter you're on the edge of your
18:58
Speaker 3: seat because I think that the Bucks. I think the
19:01
Speaker 3: Bucks are good. And moreover, they think they're good, you know.
19:08
Speaker 3: And so they're looking at the Super Bowl champs coming
19:11
Speaker 3: in there, and their attitude is, you know, yeah, you're
19:13
Speaker 3: three and zero, Well so are we, you know, And
19:16
Speaker 3: that's why I think it's going to be. I think
19:18
Speaker 3: it's going to be a real another real tough one
19:20
Speaker 3: for the Eagles. But you know, three straight weeks. They've
19:23
Speaker 3: always found a way to win. Yes, let's see if
19:25
Speaker 3: they can do it again.
19:27
Speaker 1: All right, Ray, the moment of truth, give me a
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Speaker 1: prediction for this game.
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Speaker 3: I'll probably I'll go with the Eagles. Yeah, I mean one,
19:36
Speaker 3: you know, you look at it a couple different ways.
19:38
Speaker 3: I mean, they're nineteen and one in their last twenty
19:41
Speaker 3: so there's a sense that they can't keep this going.
19:45
Speaker 3: I mean there's some truth to that. The law of
19:47
Speaker 3: averages tells you that. But as long as the team's
19:50
Speaker 3: on this kind of a roll, I'll ride with them.
19:53
Speaker 3: So I'll take the Eagles, although I think it's going
19:55
Speaker 3: to be another tight, low scoring game.
19:58
Speaker 2: I'll say, you know, twenty one, Ah, you took my
20:02
Speaker 2: you almost took my score. I'm gonna take the Eagles.
20:05
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, like twenty three to twenty. I think
20:07
Speaker 2: this is gonna be another one of those brass knuckle
20:10
Speaker 2: backyard alley, knock down, drag out type brawls. Somebody's getting
20:14
Speaker 2: bloodied in this game. But I think, just based on
20:17
Speaker 2: personnel and roster, the Eagles roster right now is a
20:20
Speaker 2: lot healthier and a lot deeper than Tampa Bay's, especially
20:23
Speaker 2: if Mike Evans doesn't play, so I'm gonna go Tampa
20:26
Speaker 2: Bay losing to the Eagles twenty three to twenty. All right,
20:31
Speaker 2: that is our outlook for the upcoming game between the
20:34
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles at three and oh and the three and
20:36
Speaker 2: oh Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We'll see how it plays out.
20:39
Speaker 2: For Ray, didn't drum, Derek Gunn. This has been Birds
20:41
Speaker 2: Weekly so long. Everybody