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  Speaker 3: This is opening week, Week one Raiders on Sunday. We
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  Speaker 3: We have a new song, Matt, I don't know you had.
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  Speaker 2: We're already for three shows the week. It's been too long.
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  Speaker 3: All right, very well done, what a way to kick
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  Speaker 5: Very well.
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  Speaker 4: I was seeing a music video, you know where there's
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  Speaker 10: Right, she never disappointed?
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  Speaker 5: Good stuff, Alex is uh, looking at.
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  Speaker 11: That?
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  Speaker 10: Seems so Matt.
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  Speaker 3: I do think we need to send her a T shirt, Absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: no doubt about it. You contribute that.
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  Speaker 5: Way, she can get that by the end of the season.
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  Speaker 3: Earn yourself effort please. All right, Well, anyway, it's Evan,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's me, it's Matt and the booth, and we're
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  Speaker 3: talking Patriots. Any news that we want to get out
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  Speaker 3: of the way other than you went to see going
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  Speaker 3: down last week last night.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's some Patriots news that we haven't discussed
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  Speaker 5: on our.
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  Speaker 3: Shows right quite a bit. Let's get right into.
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  Speaker 5: A significant transaction. I would say, late last week brill Peppers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it seems like forever ago. It was Friday, Friday, Yeah, Friday,
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  Speaker 5: but we haven't had a show since then. Surprise. I
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  Speaker 5: thought it was a surprising transaction.
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  Speaker 3: I was surprised. I mean, listen, as of last week,
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  Speaker 3: I thought he might be a captain.
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  Speaker 5: So you did say, yeah, I kind of. I've been
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  Speaker 5: nice about it, and I haven't. I haven't mocked because
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  Speaker 5: I was surprised by it too. I don't want to
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  Speaker 5: be a fraud.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think sometimes you can get blinded by guys who
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  Speaker 4: talk like captains and talk like they're speaking for the
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  Speaker 4: team before you've really settled the team. And this summer,
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  Speaker 4: Gibil Peppers, that's just how he talks like he leader.
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  Speaker 4: He's been around for a while, he's more a veteran.
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  Speaker 4: All summer long, when he talked, it was always you know,
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  Speaker 4: what we got to do and how we got to play,
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  Speaker 4: And it seemed like he was getting back on track.
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  Speaker 4: And then, you know, I said before in Minnesota, it
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  Speaker 4: seemed like things kind of went sideways a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: He got picked on a little bit in the first
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  Speaker 4: joint practice, went up and defended a pass. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's why he didn't play in the second practice or
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  Speaker 4: the game, played a lot in that fourth or third
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  Speaker 4: preseason game. But I'm still surprised even though we saw
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  Speaker 4: his role reduced. I think he's a fiery guy, has
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  Speaker 4: that personality you thought might match well with Mike Brabel.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, now we're all trying to figure out
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  Speaker 4: what exactly, why exactly?
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  Speaker 3: You know, and and I think you know he at
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  Speaker 3: least from his tweet Pepper's, he thinks it was because
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  Speaker 3: of scheme. For some reason. Vrabel said, well, it's not scheme.
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  Speaker 3: We want a lot of players who are versatile, and so,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But to me, it's it's a combination of Yes,
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  Speaker 3: this I didn't want to call it the scheme, but
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  Speaker 3: the way they're going to play defense, for the most part,
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  Speaker 3: is different in the past. You know, they don't need
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  Speaker 3: the in the box safety as on all three downs
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  Speaker 3: as they did in the past. They've got two guys
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  Speaker 3: that fit that description who make decent money. They probably
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  Speaker 3: only need one. They tried to trade Duggers that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: So now you've still got two. You have to decide
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  Speaker 3: which one are we going to keep? And they I
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  Speaker 3: think they decided Douggers. Obviously, that's what if my theory
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  Speaker 3: is true, that's what that's what they decided on.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I even question that a little bit because
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  Speaker 4: Douger's wearing a scout team number in yesterday's practice. So
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  Speaker 4: if you want to tell me that we're going to
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  Speaker 4: get into the game and Dougger's going to play fifteen
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  Speaker 4: to twenty twenty, you know, a small defensive role, but
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  Speaker 4: has a defensive role, then maybe I could see that.
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  Speaker 3: But that's what I think.
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  Speaker 4: My feeling is, Douger ain't really gonna play well.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think that the type of safety that
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  Speaker 3: those two guys represent has been reduced to a situational
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  Speaker 3: role on this Tim Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'd love to get Evan's thoughts on this
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  Speaker 4: because I knew we're going to talk about it today
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  Speaker 4: and I was just you know, thinking, and maybe this
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  Speaker 4: is too much of a generalization, but would you say
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  Speaker 4: that kind of the in the box safety kind of
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  Speaker 4: define what Bill Belichick's defense was like? That was you
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  Speaker 4: wanted Patrick Chung making the tackles, you know, he was
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  Speaker 4: the key piece.
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  Speaker 5: You hope that Kyle Dugger was.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna they couldn't get enough of those guys they're drafting
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  Speaker 4: Marty Maphu when they've already you know. Now, meanwhile, the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the league is all going to cover two
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  Speaker 4: and playing too deep shell and that style of defense.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I know there's a baseline talent that
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  Speaker 4: you look at Jabrill Peppers and he seems talented. But
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  Speaker 4: I do see that they're getting away from They want
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  Speaker 4: their linebackers to make the place. Now, those are what's
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  Speaker 4: going to define this team' Roberts playing haveing one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty tackles.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about the front being more aggressive than it has,
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  Speaker 3: you know, not so much space eaters, but guys that
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  Speaker 3: are going to get upfield. When that happens, if you
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  Speaker 3: don't get there, you leave yourself vulnerable. So you have
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  Speaker 3: to have that back end safety net, you know, hence
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  Speaker 3: the word safety more so than I think in the
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  Speaker 3: past perhaps, And so they need that other person back
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  Speaker 3: there who can to a certain degree cover a little
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  Speaker 3: bit at least keep the play in front of them.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's all part of it. And then I
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  Speaker 3: think money does have something to do with it. I
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  Speaker 3: think both Peppers and Dougglers are making decent money and
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  Speaker 3: they felt like we could, you know, use elsewhere. Now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it should be a factor because the
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  Speaker 3: money's already spent. It's not like huge money. They're well
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  Speaker 3: under the cap. It's not like they have that's even
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  Speaker 3: a factor. But I really do think it's like we've
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  Speaker 3: got we don't need both of these guys.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's where I'm at with it.
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  Speaker 6: I think they had two guys that they saw as redundant,
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  Speaker 6: and even going back to the spring, there was signs
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  Speaker 6: that they saw the two of them as redundant where
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  Speaker 6: they were trying to put Hawkins next to one of them,
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  Speaker 6: and then Craig Woodson starts to make a push and
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  Speaker 6: he's next to the Dugger Peppers, and they're they're trying
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  Speaker 6: to find the right combination back there of having more
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  Speaker 6: of a true strong and free safety and not having
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  Speaker 6: two guys that both really belong closer to the line
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  Speaker 6: of scrimmage. So that started happening. I would say May
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  Speaker 6: and June like, that's not a new development. And then
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  Speaker 6: I also think you have to look at the angle
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  Speaker 6: of well, if we have Dugger and Peppers both here
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  Speaker 6: and both of them really are aren't playing, and one
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  Speaker 6: of them really isn't playing, then what does that do
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  Speaker 6: in the locker room and the whole hierarchy of the
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  Speaker 6: locker room and that whole thing. I do think that
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  Speaker 6: they care, especially and you're one of this entire regime,
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  Speaker 6: that that's a big factor and all of this as well,
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  Speaker 6: even though verybel kind of downplayed it along amongst other
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  Speaker 6: things with the scheme and the fact that all the
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  Speaker 6: captains from last year are now gone.
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  Speaker 10: He downplayed all those things.
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  Speaker 6: But if you have Jabriel Peppers as a fourth string safety,
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  Speaker 6: this guy is getting paid pretty well, has been a
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  Speaker 6: captain on this team before, is a voice in the
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  Speaker 6: locker room, is a fan favorite, like all these different things.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to have that person in your locker room
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  Speaker 6: and still have the right sort of message get across
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  Speaker 6: of we're all pulling in the same direction and we
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  Speaker 6: all are on board with winning and all that kind
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  Speaker 6: of thing. So with those two guys, I think they
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  Speaker 6: decided they only needed one of them, and it was
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  Speaker 6: easier to cut Peppers than it was to cut Dugger
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  Speaker 6: from a financial sandpoint, so they ended up deciding to
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  Speaker 6: cut Peppers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think Rabel's really done a lot of
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  Speaker 5: work over the last few months just trying to get
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  Speaker 5: past the previous regime, and he's moving on with his
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  Speaker 5: own guys, and I think this is just a continuation
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  Speaker 5: of that.
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  Speaker 3: So may on the chopping block, no oh, because he's
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  Speaker 3: the previous regime.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, as long as we're going to take it seriously,
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  Speaker 5: well I.
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  Speaker 3: Am, I mean like like, I think you're right.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's certain In my view, there are maybe
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  Speaker 5: three more guys that fall into that category that is
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  Speaker 5: still here, Keon White, who's falling down the depth chart,
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  Speaker 5: and Wild Dager who's falling down the depth chart. And
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  Speaker 5: Micah wyn who who's not falling down the depth chart
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  Speaker 5: but makes a lot of money. And I like to
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  Speaker 5: use my I wouldn't buy green bananas if I were
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  Speaker 5: Mike Michael Win who I think he'll be here next year.
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  Speaker 5: I think this year he probably has to be. But
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  Speaker 5: I think that they're trying to overhaul the roster with
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  Speaker 5: guys that he wants. And I don't think there's anything
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  Speaker 5: wrong with that. I think that's a very common tact
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  Speaker 5: for a new coach coming in. Culture is important, style
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  Speaker 5: of play is important. I'll take everybody's word for it
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  Speaker 5: that this is a style of play thing. But I
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  Speaker 5: think it's more about the individuals that were here that
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  Speaker 5: have some money. He's looking to get past, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit older, probably not going to be part
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  Speaker 5: of the new that, you know, the next title contending
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  Speaker 5: Patriots team. So move on earlier and get your guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but do you think he would have done that earlier?
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  Speaker 5: I told you I was surprised by the transaction. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think it's I was surprised.
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  Speaker 4: It's also I don't know that Jalen Hawkins is his guy.
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  Speaker 5: He could be next.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 10: I just like to be consistent.
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  Speaker 6: I thought they were a year away from doing these
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  Speaker 6: types of things because of the roster talent and the
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  Speaker 6: depth that they have on this team. Like, if you
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  Speaker 6: told me that they were going to move on from
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  Speaker 6: the guys Paul's listing out, I'd throw Anthony Jennings, Jolani
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  Speaker 6: Tavai in that.
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  Speaker 10: List as well. If they were to do that in
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  Speaker 10: twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 5: Straight deadline last year.
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  Speaker 6: That's a great friend of m right there, Brady too,
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  Speaker 6: that makes sense if they had done that next offseason
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  Speaker 6: in twenty twenty six, because they were bringing in all
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  Speaker 6: their own guys. Where they were signing another safety that
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  Speaker 6: they liked a little bit better. They were drafting, you know,
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  Speaker 6: guys early in the draft to replace those players. I
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  Speaker 6: would have said, okay, that that makes sense. But now
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  Speaker 6: you start stripping away some of the veteran depth that
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  Speaker 6: you do have on the roster by cutting a player
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  Speaker 6: in Jabriel Peppers that might not be exactly a stylistic fit,
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  Speaker 6: but as an NFL player and is.
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  Speaker 10: A starter in this league.
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  Speaker 6: And so now what happens even if you assume that
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  Speaker 6: Craig Woodson and Jalen Hawkins are good, what happens if
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  Speaker 6: one of them gets hurt?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 6: What happens if you have multiple injuries at safety? Now
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  Speaker 6: we're back into a position where it's guys that are
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  Speaker 6: fringe practice squad you know, for a type players.
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  Speaker 10: Right, I didn't want to name names, but the.
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  Speaker 4: Next guy death.
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  Speaker 5: So I even wonder if maybe they're trying to bake
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  Speaker 5: in some versatility with a guy like Alex Austin, who
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  Speaker 5: we've seen play in the slaughter a little bit outside.
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  Speaker 5: Marcus Jones, same kind of deal. Marcus Jones is another item.
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  Speaker 3: Of Captain's news. We'll talk about that in a minute.
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  Speaker 5: You know that they named the captains. Marcus Jones was
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  Speaker 5: I think most people felt a surprising choice.
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  Speaker 3: He was surprised, he said, he was. We'll get into
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  Speaker 3: the captains. But back to this subject. I was listening
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  Speaker 3: to vrabel on EEI this morning and they were talking about,
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  Speaker 3: you know. Wiggy asked him, were you in on, uh
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  Speaker 3: the micro parts Michael Parsons thing, and he said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: not really. We didn't really spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 3: thinking about it, and then he got into you know,
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  Speaker 3: their depth. I disagree with him there though, because when
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  Speaker 3: you bring in a guy like Michaeh Parsons, he pushes
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  Speaker 3: other guys down to make your depth better.
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  Speaker 10: I think he's talking about the two first round picks.
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  Speaker 3: Correct the future.
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  Speaker 5: I actually liked his answers.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, I'm going to take his.
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  Speaker 5: Answer at face value, and I'm gonna I kind of
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  Speaker 5: thought it was refreshing that a coach would actually answer
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  Speaker 5: it kind of honestly, like we're not really ready for
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  Speaker 5: that yet. Yeah, we're not far enough along. We need
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  Speaker 5: those through first round picks, because, as Evan said, that's
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  Speaker 5: how you get depth by players.
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  Speaker 6: But it then to me like it's a little contradictory though,
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  Speaker 6: so because you're saying you need this depth, but then
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  Speaker 6: you're also cutting jubil Peppers.
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  Speaker 10: But so it's like.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't look at it in with his eighth year
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  Speaker 5: for Pepper. Yeah, I don't think he looks at an
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  Speaker 5: eight year guy as the future depth. I can make
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  Speaker 5: an argue. You guys know, we talked about this a
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  Speaker 5: little off air, so you guys know, I can make
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  Speaker 5: an argument the other way if you need me to.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm trying. I'm trying. Yeah, I'm trying to be
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  Speaker 5: open minded about it. He probably looks at it is like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he's a little older, he makes a little money. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: probably not going to be around much longer.
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  Speaker 3: But to deuce his question, but if them long to
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  Speaker 3: do this, I think they were trying to move I agree.
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  Speaker 6: I think they were trying to trade him one of
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  Speaker 6: him were Dugger, right, and then it didn't happen. And
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  Speaker 6: then I think they decided really early on in spring
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  Speaker 6: practices that they weren't going to play Dugger and Peppers
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  Speaker 6: together like that, that whole idea of playing the two
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  Speaker 6: of them together, they never seem sold on it. So
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  Speaker 6: it immediately went to all right, it's one spot for
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  Speaker 6: one of those guys maybe, and then it phased out
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  Speaker 6: even more to now we really think that this is
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  Speaker 6: like a third safety role instead of a starting safety role.
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  Speaker 6: You know, they want the safeties to cover that. That's
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  Speaker 6: the number one thing. I don't think they want their
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  Speaker 6: safeties to deuce his point earlier, making the tackles near
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  Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage and making the splash plays on
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  Speaker 6: the ball. They want their safeties to GTFB like that.
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  Speaker 6: That's that's really what this is about.
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  Speaker 10: Out.
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  Speaker 6: They want them to cover the deep part of the field.
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  Speaker 6: They want them to cover man to man sometimes, and
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  Speaker 6: they don't want as much of playmaking box safeties. And
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: I think that that's you know, he was asked yesterday
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: too about Woodson, and he immediately went to range and
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: athleticism and that type of stuff. Then he was asked
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: about them playing more quarters, and he agreed with this,
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: the notion that they were going to be playing more
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: quarters and more cover four defense. So they want the
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: safeties to be over the top. They want them to
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: be you know, rangey and be able to cover ground
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: and keep the top on the defense. And that's not
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: what either one of those guys is suited to do.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: It's not a strong suit for either one of those players,
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: so that role reductions and here we are, okay.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, it was because it seemed like they
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: were moving Peppers around a little bit trying to figure out,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: like what can we do with him? And I think
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: the last place we kind of saw was like in
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: the slot with the second team, And I mean I
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: went back to my notes from that first Minnesota practice
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: where you know, it was twice on him and cover
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: John Hawkinson where he's covering the tight end and can't
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: quite keep up with him, and you know, I just
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: wonder if if they were trying to feel it out
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: and see if there is a role for him that
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: we can include into our scheme and maybe use in
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: certain subpackages.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: But I think the.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Overall body work over the summer it felt a little
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: to me like trying to figure it out with him,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: moving them around, trying to figure out what he can do.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: And ultimately maybe in Minnesota when they saw those a
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: couple of days that because that's really to me, when
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: it really started to go downhill. Nothing against like the injury,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: which was unfortunate, but I mean, I don't even know
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: if that's the case.
• 17:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, like I wouldn't have done this.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, for multiple years we've talked
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: about Pepper's and Dugger not being great.
• 17:39
  Speaker 10: In coverage, whether it's man to man or zone.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: Like, they are known to be guys that are, you know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: below average coverage players for their position. So if past
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: defense and being able to cover is the number one
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: priority at safety, then those are not going to be
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: your types of guys.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So Paul, you mentioned captains. They announced
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: six of those yesterday and if you missed it, we
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: actually had Mike Rabel uh telling the team before practice yesterday.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: We had a cameras in the huddle. That was pretty cool.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: But uh, why don't we list off who those captains are?
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: Drake May, Hunter, Henry Roberts, Bulaine, Marcus Jones, Uh, Harold
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: Landry Brennan Schooler.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the game captain too, which I didn't I
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: didn't realize until the video is that. Yeah, that was
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: called Chaseng will be a game Sin.
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: So I assume that's going to rotate.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because normally Rabel named seven captains in Tennessee. So
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: when they he did six, I guess that's a rotating spot.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he mentioned, you know, Chase On played with
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: the Raiders, so kind of a logical choice to be
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: the game captain.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Blaine too, I mean they were, yeah, both those guys.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: But he's a permanent captain.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's a serious guy. Well, all those guys
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: talked in the locker room, mystery except Drake cool talk.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I think what Thursday, I think to the media tomorrow, Marow.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Let's just hope that these captains have a better help
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: record than last year.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, because if these.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Captains go down, it's going to be pretty rough.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Marcus Jones is a captain. You mentioned mild surprise. I
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: thought it was yeah, yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I not you guys were in the locker room yesterday, Yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: you said he expressed, Yeah, he said he.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Was even surprised a little bit. You know, talked about
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: the leadership of Devin mccordy and Matthew Slater is two
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: guys that he hopes to model his leadership off of. Ribble,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: just had a meeting with them, coming to the locker room,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: just kind of congratulating those guys. But yeah, I was
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: definitely surprised about Marcus Jones and it's certainly a guy
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: who's going to be in a contract year. He's also
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: in this new scheme. How does he fit into everything?
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: I think there's always kind of a use for him,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: especially this week with some of these little fast guys
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: that they have Trey Turner, you know, on the outside.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe there's a use for for Marcus Jones. We're starting
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: to play the matchups.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: A little bit. Yeah. Other news, Forge and Foxboro episode
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: three dropped over the weekend, so if you haven't seen
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: it over ready, there's some pretty cool stuff. Some exclusive
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: footage of that fight back in the first joint practice.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Mike Rabel got some I never I didn't even know
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: we had that angle of him jumping into the dog pile.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: So that was good. Chisholm being told he made the team.
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: Things like that, So that was Paul's highlight.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, unprecedented access Forge of Foxbrow episode three on YouTube.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Go check it out. Perfect viewing to get you ready
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: for this Raiders game on Sunday.
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: This is my favorite one out of the three.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: I thought this one had the most original footage, like
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: footage that I had never seen before, which was really
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: cool and I love like it had the hard Knocks
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: feels with like Chism and Elijah Ponder making the team.
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: I was really I was into this one was a
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: good one, good stuff.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was too.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I just I watched it while I was the Kate
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: this weekend, and it's just remarkable that it's like a
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: full on Hard Knocks episode, you know, like like that's
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: always like what the standard was for the summer and
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: now teams and we're not the only ones doing it either,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: but you know, teams are able to just produce produce
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: his content. I think it's great for the fans. Love
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: getting to see behind the scenes Jim Whalen, you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: highlighting all the medical advances that we have here and
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: not only Foxboro but obviously in Boston as well. So
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I thought that was a good angle.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever heard.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Jim Whalen actually speak before. This is one of the
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: first times that really.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: It's funny because like I when I listened to Jim
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: whale and talk, I detected Bill Belichick when he said,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you know, by two thirty, we can we can know
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: what you know, Like that's I could hear that coming
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: out of Bill's Bill's mouth, you know, middle you know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: you work with a guy for all that time, you're
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: going to pick up on things.
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: Jim's a really nice guy. You've talk before, We've talked
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: to him injured, We've talked to him at the coured.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't talk.
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: To in the air.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: I don't get the oh he was there. I don't
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: think it was to me.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: You're still get a pretzel.
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: Nice guy, yes, really nice guy.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: I always like seeing him on the plane back from
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: the combine. Combine, but he's he's in first class and
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: I'm you know, going back.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: There, sage.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such an interesting job to me, Like if
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: you're just not that you're waiting for guys to get hurt.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I know there's elements of rehab and stuff, but it's
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: just got to be hard to Like a normal doctor
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: has a bunch of patients and sometimes people come in
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: and get sick and get hurt whatever, but like he
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: has like he's like a shepherd for like fifty three
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: dudes or even I mean more I guess, you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: sixty five dudes, whatever it might be, And at any moment,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: one of these guys could have a major injury, and
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: he knows he's going to be there and have to
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: take care of these guys. Just such a unique position,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: especially for how long has he done it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I mean he's been here forever, right, yeah, one time.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: I think it's cool to see too, Like the all
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: the preventative care that goes in, like the taping and
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: like all that stuff that goes into try to to
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: get them even ready for practice. The amount of guys
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: like going to that tape to get then they're.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Just there, go to the moon and back, Paul, the
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: amount of tape that they the offensive.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: I'm always tape their hands right like, So it's just
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: all that stuff goes on before they even hit the
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: practice bags.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: A lot of ice bags, a lot of ice ice machines.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: All right, what else? So we got what else? Pepper's
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: We've got Captain.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: A couple of things for I just to throw out there.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: A couple of interesting nuggets from from Ural Peldus. I
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: just thought it was interesting. They've they've added three defensive linemen,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: two pactor squad guys Fabian love At, Corey Durden and
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: as well as Eric Gregory who's a rookie a little
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: bit bigger guy as well as yesterday, added Brendan James,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: the centers silent Jay I like that, but those to
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: me indicate maybe some positions where they feel like they
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: need a little more. I had said last show, Oh,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: it's interesting they've kept all these undrafted guys that they
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: have and those a lot of those guys are gone
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: now they're down to, you know, two guys they drafted
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: and four guys that were undrafted rookies, and otherwise they
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: brought in a bunch of veterans. So I just wonder,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: if you know Himus or you know this guy Eric
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Gregory who's got a little more size, and we talked
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: about some of the run defense stuff, if maybe some
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: of these guys are more like their guys or you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: it's just it's adding some depth you might not expect,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: and suddenly we might get into the game of people
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: are gonna who's fifty five on the defensive line and
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: this guy this will?
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, play there's the practice squad's had significant turnover already.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, I can't remember them having this much practice
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: squad turnover. They basically flipped half the practice squad at
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: this point from what it started.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: For they played a game. Yeah, it's interesting.
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: It's a significant amount.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: And obviously you don't know when guys are going to
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: become available and from other teams and things like that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: But Gregory is an interesting player like their typical you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: one technique, shaded nose tackle, can control gaps, can penetrate
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: the line on stunts and things like that. He has
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: good tape in the preseason, and I know the Bengals
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: fans did not want to see him get poached when
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: they cut him, so they were all pretty disappointed that
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: he got claimed by the Patriots. And Rabel said yesterday
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: that they had a draftable grade on him in the
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: draft and we're competing with Cincinnati and undrafted free agency
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: for him, and they lost out an undrafted free agency,
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: so they maybe not a throwaway, you know, as Duce
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: kind of laid out. I think that that could be
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: somebody that sticks around.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I throw Mark Robinson in there, who Pittsburgh fans were
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: kind of a little bit bummed out to see just
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: you know, a guy they had since twenty twenty two.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: A lot of special teams for them. So some of
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: these veterans are coming in. I think they might end
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: up on the game day roster, maybe having a role
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: that It's always weird when you spend all off season
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: watching the same group of guys and the all through
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: training camp, and then all of a sudden, Week one,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: there's like a guy I've never even seen it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: And I know when they make the original fifty three
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: that it's always in flux, but I've been a little
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: surprised with just how much influx the whole thing, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: even the sixty nine, you know, like Evan pointed out,
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: with the practice squad and just the amount of change
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: before they've even played a game. It has been a
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: little bit surprising.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: All right. So we're going to get into the game
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and you have the depth chart in front of you.
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: Uh oh, this one's filled out.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: This is this your depth, this is mine. I like
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: to keep it myself.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: So what do you have? Who do you have playing
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: left guard to start the Raiders game?
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Jared Wilson?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: You have Wilson? Yeah, okay, and.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: You have I have no idea that I mean, if
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: I had to make a guess, I would take Wilson, and.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: You have Ben Jones, uh, Ben Brown, I'm.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Thinking of the other Garrett Bradberry, Ben Johnson, former Verbel safety.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: The center that I know I know out of Georgia.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I remember Ben. I have a good story about him.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: But anyway, very tight with captain anyways, but I have
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Garrett Bradbury with Ben Brown. But but then also, so
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: which one do you have starting at center?
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Bradbury?
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, yep, I got him a up. Okay, think that's
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: the that's the list. But you know, even bringing in
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: highness like, to me, it signals they're chill, still really
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: trying to figure it out at that position. And he
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: has some guard versatility too, So if maybe it doesn't
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: go great with Wilson, maybe he's an option there as well.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: So now these moves just signal to me where they
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: think they're light and where they need to add some depth,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: especially the veteran guys.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: So what's what's your personnel? To start this game? Patriots
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: come out first and ten thirty five probably what's your
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: personnel thirty five?
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go eleven personnel with Vermandre and Hunter,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Henry and Uh and Digs Douglas and Booty. Say that again,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Digs Douglas, Booty, Hunter, Romandre Diggs Douglas.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: I'm going to replace Booty with mac Hollins.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: I'm going to replace Booty and Mac Collins with Jack
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: Westover because I GUARANTI is twenty one personnel with the
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: full back and back problem, you know, like with all
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: the changes.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Very subtle, small thing, but they've officially listed Westover as
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: a full back.
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: And the guy is now thirty seven full back number.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Got got off that eighty seven thing?
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: You're you're if they're going lead Iso right up the
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: middle on the first play, he should.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Go talk to him in the locker room.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I feel like, take my time getting out of the
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: food buffet if we get if we win the toss,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: I want first. I'll come back for second and nine.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: He's one west Over. I was biding my time a
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: little bit on but I don't think anyone's really talked
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: about him, and I don't know for sure if he's
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: going to really actually play. I mean, Evan, you know
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: you want to run right into the land and Roberts
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: first down shore, but.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: Absolutely coming at you baby, right. That's why that tells
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: everybody that doesn't It doesn't matter to Paul.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: But you know, no, I just thought it was interesting
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: that they went out of their way to officially make
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: that move on the roster, like no, no, no, he's
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: not not a tight end. He's a full back.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't really look.
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: Like it doesn't look like a fullback to me too.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: But I'm the one thing I am a little bit
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: interested in is like he probably can catch passes a
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: little bit more than like a Yakab Johnson or James
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: Devlin when Roberts caught a touchdown pass use But yeah, yeah,
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: but they the tight end background, maybe he does have
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: a little bit more juice as a receiver where they
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: can do some fun things with him in that respect
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: that maybe they wouldn't be able to do with like
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: a Devilin style fullback.
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: So I'm not saying he's gonna.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Catch I'll throw you a bone here of okay, because
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: I'm nothing if not fay. I can live with the
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: whole fullback thing. If this is the way it is,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: like I'm going to take a third tight end and
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: make him a full back as opposed to what Evan
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: was describing before. Just like this bulldozer who just drops
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: his head and runs into a wall. This guy he
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: as a as a tight end by trade. He should
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: be able to get out and catch a pass or
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: to for you if you need be. He should be
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: able to block. He's got some mobility. He's not just
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: an offensive lineman playing in the backfield. If that's the
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: way you want to use a full back, okay, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: can live with that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Well, you lead him up to the second level, Paul,
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: and then once the linebacker starts to bite on it,
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: then you run leak and you just run him right
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: by the linebacker and he's wide open.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: You run leak with yo, Johnson and this doesn't do
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: you any good.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: There you go, Stevenson's You're you're starting running back? Yeah? Okay?
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: For now?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Okay? And so then after the Patriots go the length
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: of the field for seven and they come out on
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: de go for two?
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Why not go for two?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: No, I don't need to do that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: So new era eight nothing, Okay, go.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Ahead, starting front seven for the Patriots? What does that
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: look like?
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Take it away far more Tongam, Williams, Chase on Landry
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: on the edges, Blaine and Ellis.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: So you have Tonga, I'm starting.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: I'm with you. That's that would be my front seven.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: And then and then Alex Austin and Carlton. Yeah, surprise
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: you going base, going base on space.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know that's base what we saw every day.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Really yeah, okay, well.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Except for when Toby got hurt, you know, and basically
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: missed all of camp.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I thought they were going to be a four to
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: three team.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: I think they are, but that that's they could be both.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: So wait a minute, that's a five man front. But
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: he just listed Yeah, but I understand what your point is.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: You can look at those guys in the edges as linebackers.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: You can look at him at his ends. Whatever however
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: you describe him is gonna. I think it's who. So
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: so let's take Chase on right. You're going to say
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: Chase onto pay Longo. No, I would expect you have
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Williams bar More inside, Chase on Landery outside.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: So out well see to me, it depends on and
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: put Marcus Jones in.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: But this is all, and this is why coaches sometimes
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: bristle at like these depths.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I know, so and calling.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: If Tennessee does the Evan thing, I mean, I'm sorry.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: If Las Vegas does the the Evan thing and they
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: come out and it's genty with a full back in
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: front of them, and you know, then Tonga is going
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: to be in the middle.
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: But if they if they come out with Trey Tucker
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: on one side and Jacoby Myers in the slot and
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Bowers and maybe Meyer the you know, like whatever, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: they have like four wide, then maybe Tonga is probably
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: not going to be in the game.
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's fair.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: If they look like they're going to run the ball
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: on first down, Tong is going to be on.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a simple way to think
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: of it as just Tonga Tonga out, Marcus Jones in. Maybe.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: But there's only so many guys that I really think
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: are going to play. You know, I think I could
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: see Keon White getting some snaps, but after that, all
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: those guys I named, I think that's kind of the
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: rotation is like thirteen guys. Maybe it's not.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Really like I'm not ecting of personnel on defense for you.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think on the D line there will
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: be because like Keon White's gonna get some snaps farm.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Especially earlier in the year, you're gonna see farms. You
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: probably you might even see, you know, some of the
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: younger guys, because usually you rotate a lot of bodies
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: up front.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I just I guess I'm more concerned with get down
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: to brass tacks and when the game's on the line,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: who are the real guys? You know, I get, I
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: get trying to get you know, Jeremiah Farms some snaps
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: and get Joshua Farmer some work and you know, start
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: to see what you have. And some of these guys
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: probably dugger rotationally a little bit, but those other that's
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: kind of the core thirteen I see in.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: So let's talk about Gonzo for a second. Is there
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: any chance that there's a little subterfuge going on on
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: the part of Mike Vrabel, Like I'm not gonna play
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: my cards. No, No, I don't know.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's any subterfuge. I'm not going to
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: tell you there's no chance that he'll play. I think
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: there's a chance he'll play, you know, but I don't.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: I don't think this is a ruse.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, it doesn't seem like he has time for that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Like sometimes with some of these ruses and subterfuge, energy
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: and energy going into trying to pull it off than
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: like the other team, like you know, they're probably still preparing,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: like Gonzalez could play. I just think it's bowers to
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: me that like you know, I'm more concerned about him.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: And how does Gonzales not being there affect the trickle
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: down of what their game plan is going to look
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: like dealing with Bowers.
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I just wonder.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Rabel yesterday kind of started to say that it's taken
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: longer than expected, and then sort of caught himself and
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: pivoted his answer a little bit.
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: It's a soft tissue thing.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: You guys have been on it, like those things are tricky,
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: and one day it could feel better and the next
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: day it doesn't. So to me, it looks like they
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: were expecting him to be back and maybe a little
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: bit sooner than this, but it's just not ready yet.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: And so it's better to be safe than sorry and
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: play the long game here. But I'm more worried about
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: not to look ahead. But like week two in Miami
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: is more worrisome without Gonzo than this week against the Raiders.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: I think they can get by this week without him if.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: It comes to isn't as much a factor this week.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: And outside receiver, you know, in particular like Dante Thorton,
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: I guess has had a nice camp for him for them.
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: He was drafted, uh, you know from Tennessee, uh speed receiver.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: But I overall like that's Trey Tucker is a nice
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: slot receiver, kind of like their pop Douglas. We obviously
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: know about Kobe Myers, but besides that, it's not a
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: star studded receiving corpse.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Early line, Paul, I believe the Patriots are favored by
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: two and a half two and a half, two and
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: a Hey you're down by and hey.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Would you like to say disrespect now? You're going to
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: make them really underdogs point You're going to make it
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: out to be like we shocked the world. That's right,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: I figured, Yeah, nobody believed that's that's Thursday showed on.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: St okay uh weather early weather reports.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: To be a really real, nice one gorgeous what I'm
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: hearing when every game should be played.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I also apparently that's when practices are happening now too.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: It seems like, which kind of makes sense to me,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: that you would practice roughly when you play. In the past,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: teams have practiced in the morning, but it seems like
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: these guys are one thirty to three thirty is going
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: to be there their Wednesday Thursday practice.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you feel about that? You like that,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: does that fit your schedule?
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Not great?
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not like that.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Not great, Bob.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: What's it is? What it is?
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, uh, you know, you just gotta roll with it,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: be flexible. You know, they gotta do what they gotta do.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: I just understand the philosophy of it though, that you
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: want to get guys used to your body about one o'clock,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: that's time to go. And you know, if you're practicing
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: at ten. I mean it's a subtle thing, but.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I just wonder, you know, in terms of their work
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: that they have to do in meetings, film study, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff, how you divide that up
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: during the course of the day. What's most advantageous because
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: it seems like we haven't had a tremendous amount of
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: coaches here. You know, it was Pete Carol for one
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: year for me, then all those years of Bill, then
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Mayo for a year like it's but it seems like
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: everybody has a different time, and even Bill changed peer.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: It's just a matter of like when you want your
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: film review to happen and all that. I think it
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: makes sense because you have the morning to look at
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: yesterday's practice. What are we going to fix what are
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: we going to do today yet? So you have all
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: the morning to do that, then you go do it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, in the past, Bill would do it the night
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: before after practice they would break down the film and
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: then go over the script for the next day, and
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: then they come back in the morning and practice, whereas
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: this is all the morning I'm sure is going to
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: be what we're going to do at practice, the corrections
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: from the day before, and then right into practice. I'm
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: with you, I do it this way because I feel
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: like then they go home, they go they go to
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: you know, in their personal lives, they go to sleep.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: They there's a lot of time that passes between when
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: they talked about, you know, your third step was off
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: on that route break and them actually getting back on
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: the field the next day and doing it live. So
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: this way there it all happens kind of it at
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: one one swoop.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also be a little different on Fridays. I
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: don't know if this ed was going to keep, but
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: in the past we've had like coach before practice. Now
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: it's going to be coach after practice. So Evan usually
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: does a write up based on who practice is on Friday.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Who might not be there, so you'll get to talk
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: directly to Vrabel. If Gonzo doesn't practice Friday, and all
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: signs are portant to know, you'll get to ask them
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well that's the table it has been set,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: getting ready for the Raiders on Sunday, three days a
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: week for the Patriots, for Patriots Unfiltered. It's uh that
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: really signifies the start of this. That's when when we
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: go to three days a week.
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: That's what everybody says.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: It's just so nice to have things to talk about.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Like you get to this point where, like in the
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: off season where you feel like you've just unloaded the
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: clip on every topic that there is, and now you
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: go four days without a show and there's you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: solid forty minutes worth of things to discuss. And it'll
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: only get better as the NFL season.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: And all right, eight five to five Pats five hundred
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is the
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: way to email us. So let's get to the phones
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: and we'll see who has what to say. We'll start
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: with who else? Christian in La what's up? Hey?
• 39:13
  Speaker 13: You guys pay a week to countdown and here we go,
• 39:16
  Speaker 13: I'm really excited about the season. On two things. One,
• 39:21
  Speaker 13: are you guys at all worried that you haven't really
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: heard any stellar comments about Drake May's play at practice.
• 39:30
  Speaker 13: And I just haven't heard like May is looking like,
• 39:33
  Speaker 13: you know, the next great thing. He's making these great
• 39:35
  Speaker 13: throws down field, blah blah blah. I guess I've heard
• 39:38
  Speaker 13: he's comfortable in the pocket, and I guess there has
• 39:40
  Speaker 13: to be enough, and so I'm a little bit lary
• 39:43
  Speaker 13: about that. Secondly, can you guys give me at leash
• 39:46
  Speaker 13: your first three plays? I have Rimandre Stevenson up the middle,
• 39:50
  Speaker 13: Trayvon Henderson probably a toss out, and then something up
• 39:54
  Speaker 13: the steam to the tight end.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take it up the air, all right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: So on the first question, we don't really get to
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: see practice anymore, you know, you know, the good stuff,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: So it's hard for anyone in the media to say, oh,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: he's been looking good in practice.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Well, I would say that the what the two or
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: three practices we saw that were closed and we weren't
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: really allowed to write extensively about that. I thought there
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: were a couple of drakes best practices, but I would
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: just say overall he's been he's been good, but there
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: have been definitely moments of inconsistency with him all all
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: summer long.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that's so we're not going to
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: be able to say any practices this week.
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: No, not to like make excuses for him, but I
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: wouldn't say that there's a ton of correlation between how
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: some of these players look in practice and then when
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: we those.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: Practices that didn't even they weren't even.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: Impact right, Like, I don't know, I've had I've seen
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: it go both ways, where guys have amazing training camps
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, the season rolls around
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: and they're they're not even to be heard from, you know.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think Mike hit it when we just
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: started talking about this, like we can hammer all of
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: these points that we in practice home all day long,
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: and now the season's here, we're going to get a
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: chance to get, you know, a sample size of what
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: it looks like in real, real action. One of the
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: things that I've really been focused on is how many
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: times I watch and I say, like there was pressure quickly,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: but would that have been pressure leading to a sack
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: or throwaway or would that be a play that Drake
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: May can get off platform and make a play, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: you don't know that until it's a real game, right, Yeah,
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: it's impossible.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: And as far as which plays are going to happen,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, play two will be dictated by how well
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: play one works. Play one will be Hunter Henry over
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the middle.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say it's going to be a little
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: uh an easy and easy completion, you know, maybe getting someone,
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: A quick hitter west Over in the flat.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: Well not west Over, but maybe even some you know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: some something to Digs real quick or Douglas real quick,
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: just to get Rake May settled, right, because that's been
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: kind of an under I don't know. I think it's
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: been a little bit of an overblown topic. Like how
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: Drake May had mentioned he's a little jacked up at
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: the beginning, and now everybody's running away with this. How
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: do we settle Drake down? I mean, like it's a
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: very common quarterback problem. And by the way, one that
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: even Tom Brady.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: The greatest of all you were going to.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Like Brady Brady used to be a little bit hot, you.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Know, if anything, they need to get more excited.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Didn't he not score a touchdown in the first quarter
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: of a Super Bowl until Tampa.
• 42:31
  Speaker 10: Right, like, it was like ten straight, nine straight super bowls.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: They were scooless in the first because he would super
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: bowls right yeah, yeah, thanks Bill, all of them. Thanks Bill.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: I like that. That was it was well done, Mike.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: I wonder if I.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: Was listening to someone talk about this. I don't know who,
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: but Josh Allen used to like advocate for running the ball,
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: like him physically running the ball, I.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: Want to say Boomers Sias and said that this morning,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: let me get lit up. Yeah, and he would go
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: to brass Brian table, Yeah, give me, let me, let
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: me run it, let me get into the game, let
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: me get hit. I need to get hit.
• 43:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, something like that maybe one way to.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Help A lot of players say that you don't like,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: you know, you don't really fill your into the game
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: until you get that either give or get that first hit.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: But I just wonder if they'll give him, you know,
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: something really really quick, quick and easy completion. I'd be
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: surprised if you didn't see an early screen in the game.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, you'ren't necessarily going to get one on first
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: and ten of the season, not really a great screen time.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised they're established.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know when it would come.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: I think they're going to be predominantly running early in
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: the game. I just mean, like.
• 43:47
  Speaker 10: Right up the middle.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, given when we know and Roberts like getting up
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: on Travian Henderson. You know, you see Travian Henderson split
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: out wide to see if it's man and like you
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: see Land and Roberts go with him. I'd be like alert, alert,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: you know, think Lynn Roberts great coming downhill.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I don't need to run down and move out there.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Get him on, get him in coverage. That's I mean,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: that's what I think Josh is probably that's the new
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: special sauce for this offense is maybe he didn't quite
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: expect what he was going to be able to do
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: with Henderson. But I imagine right now he's cooking in
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: a loud and I think.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: If you're the Raiders, you want to rattle May early.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: You want to get you want to get him thinking
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: about our pressure right away.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just say so.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: So if I'm McDaniels, I would expect him to want
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: to do that. So, like Paul said, get it out
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: of his hands quickly, you know, don't let them do
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: that early.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I would. I'd look at the offensive line,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: that was the left side of the offensive line. If
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: it's two rookies, you know, trying to get pressure. Adam
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Butler's always been a good pass rusher, obviously Max Crosby
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: is excellent, but you know, trying to get pressure with
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: three or four guys and you know, make may read coverage,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: make drop guys in his own so he's not going
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: to be as much of a threat with his feet.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: And if you can give those rookies hell with Max
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Crosby and you're able to get pressure with just him,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: you know, with those guys, maybe run some stunts, then
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I think that's the most direct way to get New
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: England's offense off balance. So those young guys, I mean
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: they get rattled early. I mean they've both been really
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: calm and steady. We know from our perspective, but an
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: opponent might look at that saying, hey, two rookies, sure,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: put Max over them. Let's absolutely get them rattled early.
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: It's a really interesting like chess match on both sides,
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: because like Max Crosby usually rushes over the right tackle
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: so for him to flip sides is a game plan
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: wrinkle for the Raiders. And then from the Patriots point
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: of view, I think rightfully, so the staff last year
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: got a lot of heat for not having game plans
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: for pass rushers. You know, and you face a guy
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: like Max Crosby, you can't just expect Will Campbell to
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: block him one on one twenty times, like you have
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: to get you know, you have to help, you have
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: to chip, you have to move the pocket, you have
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: to double team, like, you have to do different things.
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: So from a McDaniel's Doug Maroon standpoint, is a really
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: like trial by fire from a game plan perspective of
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: how are you going to handle a pass rusher like
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: Max Crosby that can really take.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I remember several games where whether it was you know,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: JJ Watt or Clay Matthews, you know, Bill would go
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: into the game saying, we're going to take that guy
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: away when Crosby win the game, and most of the
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: time they were at least successful in doing that.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: You know, Like, it would be disappointing to me if
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: we are on here next Tuesday and Max Crosby just
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: had you know, ten pressures in a couple of sacks
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: and like that those are the types of things that
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: good coaching staffs avoid. Is this is the one guy
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: that can't beat us, right, so what can we do
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: to make sure that he doesn't beat you?
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: And say the same thing about Bowers on the other
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: side of the ball right exactly, go on, and he
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: has twelve catches and two touchdowns. You know that's it's
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: such a unique rate.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: I'd be more surprised that that happened to Bowers than
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: I would be if Max Crosby that has a good
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: game too, I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me at all
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: to see him have a couple of sacks.
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: But like, how do they get pretty glad? I think
• 46:55
  Speaker 10: is interesting?
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: No, I agree with you. I think that they will
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: try very hard to gain and planned out. I just
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: think that Tom Brady had so much to do with
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: those shutdowns of JJ Watt and Joey Bosa and all
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: those other guys that they saw over the years.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: The ball out too quick, man, I can't get you.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: Yep, you can't just like ignore it, right, Like I
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: think the staff last year did that, and they just
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: kind of ran their plays and just expected guys to
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: hold up and all that kind of thing. And you know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: if they whether it's getting the ball out at Drake's
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: hands quickly, whether it's chipping him on third downs when
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: they have to drop back a little bit longer, you know,
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: moving the pocket away from him is right, he's over there,
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: I'm Drake may is running the other direction, like, Yeah,
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: those types of things like that. That's a I hope
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: that we're going to see that this year because that's
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: like how the coaching staff can really elevate the talent.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just offensively the reason I feel like
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: they do have two thousand yard receivers coming back.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: I don't think Jakobe Myers is a great receiver. I
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: think he's good. I think he's a good player. I
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: wish that the Patriots never let him go in the
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: first place. As you guys know, their numbers are very similar.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: I mean talking about the difference of about what fifteen catches,
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: you know, twenty catches and you know, less than one
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: hundred yards. So to Kobe Myers, if they want to
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: just double and do everything they can to take out
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: with Bowers. I think Geno Smith is a veteran enough
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: quarterback to have the experience to say, Okay, I'll oh,
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: just let this guy you know do it. But with
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: with with Crosby, I just think he's so much more
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: talented than in large part the guys they're going to
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: be blocking him. I think he'll make plays.
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah, shouldn't be blocking him by themselves.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: No, they won't be.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're saying he'll beat the double.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: I think he's seen a double team in the past.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Let's put it back.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I think so, yeah.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: I think he's seen his share a double time.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Those are be interesting. He's like because he's feisty, he
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: loves like a little extra business, talking crap. Remember Gosh,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: one of the hard Knocks, but their team was paring
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: for them and they were literally having like their practice squad.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Guys like be annoying, like Max Crosby is like Will
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Campbell's attitude. I don't think he's going to be putting
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: up with that, you know. But it's also like that's
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: a way to get rookies off their game. If Mark
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Max Crosby's in their ear talking crap and Will Campbell's
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: reacting more to him than he is on the game plan.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: So it's just something the watch and bus you know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: you know, you could, you know, to Evan's point, if
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: you want to come out and be physical and run
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: the ball, that's a great way to neutralize pass rushers
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: and keep the hills. Get them up you know, get
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: them up field a little bit and maybe see if
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: you can you can, if you could crease them. But
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: this would be about McDaniels and you know what, what
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: the whatever the game plan is going to be in
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: the passing game and has got to be quick, right.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: You can't expect to have typical Drake may plays where
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: he's surveying the field looking and drive the ball down
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: field and taking time because I don't care if it's
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: a double team, He's going to get there. He's gonna
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: And Malcolm Coons isn't bad. He's not Max Crosby, He's
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: not even close to Max Cross.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: But he gets his ship.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: He had eight sacks last year.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Which is two years ago.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he had eight last year.
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: No, he tours Aco last year.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, that was Chase on last year.
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: But yeah, they I mean, you guys, they've been chipping the.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: Ends a ton in practice and the practices that we
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: were seeing and even that like Yeah, he's still gonna
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: get there. But at least it gives Drake May that
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: half a beat to scan the field a little bit.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: If it's third and eight and they know they have
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: to drop back past, if you can chip the ends,
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: then at least it gives them.
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: A little time.
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: But I think the Bowers thing, I assume that they're
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: going to probably bracket Bowers or something like that too.
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: That's where not having Gonzo can hurt you, because he's
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: Gonzo is going to be one on one against Jacoby
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: Myers in that scenario, and that is a matchup that
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: I think you can live with. But if it's Alex Austin,
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: or if it's Marcus Jones one on one against Jacoby Myers,
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: then that's a downgrade.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Hels playing a little cat and mouse, But probably not.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, so let's just for argument's sake, I'm not please,
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: don't not getting an argument about this.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes you are.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Would it makes sense to you to not having practiced.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: So this is gonna be about thirty five days, right, right,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: So let's say he's been practicing the last couple so
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: he went thirty days without practicing, and then it was
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: part of a ruse. So not having practiced for the
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: other days and having practiced the last.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: It's like it's it's like Rabel knows more chance than
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: not he's going to play. But I don't need to
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: tell anybody.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: No, no, there might be that. Yeah, but I don't
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: think that's a good ruse. Yeah, Like I think it
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: would be better if you just said no, no, no,
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: he's been practicing the last two weeks and he's up
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: to speed.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I'm saying he hasn't been practicing
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: the last two weeks. He hasn't been practicing.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, then yeah, what's the sense of doing a ruse
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: if he's not practiced.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Because because you know he's gonna, he's gonna he's close.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: Like Mike said, Like, if I'm Pete Carroll right now,
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: I'm fully anticipating Christian Gonzalez being at corner on Sunday.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: If he's not, that makes your job easier, right, right,
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: I guess So, yeah, all right. I think it was
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: July twenty eighth was the day he got hurt in practice.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: So we're talking like first day of Patty five plus
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: days that he's going to go, you know, practicing.
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: If I know, I'm more worried about like from tomorrow,
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: Like I'm not worried about Gonza. Solution is the problem, right,
• 52:23
  Speaker 10: Like can he There's no chance he can play seventy
• 52:26
  Speaker 10: snaps on Sunday.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: That's my whole point. Yeah, Like like why would you
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: go out of your way to you know, I misunderstood
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: what Fred's part of the ruse was, Like why would
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: you go out of your way to have him not
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: be ready to play? Yeah, just so the other team
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: doesn't know he's not playing.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: I just say, generally speaking, and it goes back a
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: little bit to Pepper's thing based on the joint practices.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just I'm so curious how they're going to deal
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: with tight ends all season long with this defense and
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Bowers is unique, and Evan's been the one to say
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: it's more about the average tight ends, the guys.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: That are sneaky.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: This guy's are wide receiving right.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Right, So you know you're going to get attention with
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: him and it'll be probably a special game pan But
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: week in week out, is Christian ellis your tight end?
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: E racer?
• 53:07
  Speaker 12: Is that?
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Like, there's not really is it going to be Craig Woodson,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Like it's questions. Yeah, and there's good tight ends across
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: the league.
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: I just wonder, like, it's to me, how game plan
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: oriented are they actually going to be. Like we knew
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: with Bill that Bill was going to have something for
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: Brock Bauers, and I expect we're able to have something
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: for Brock Browers too. But Belichick had a lot of
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: really creative double teams and brackets and calls within the
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: structure of the defense that they would run against these
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: types of players, like you know, when they would face
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: a Bowers level type.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: Of Travis Kelcey. There were times where Travis Kelcey was
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: taken out. Now was at the expense of giving up
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: thirty five to everybody else, but he did nothing. And
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: I think that Bill treated Kelsey as a wide receiver,
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: not a tight end, certainly, and I think that's the
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: way they'll look at Bob.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: I mean the AFC Championship game that they had corners
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: on Kelsey the entire game is j C. Jackson a
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: little bit of Stefan Gilmore So they treated him.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Like a receiver. Nathan's in New Hampshire. What's up, Nathan, Hey, how's.
• 54:10
  Speaker 12: It going, guysyton, I got a question about the quarterbacks.
• 54:15
  Speaker 12: So last season, the quarterbacks took one thousand, ninety one snaps,
• 54:20
  Speaker 12: and I'm curious what your guys just take on how
• 54:22
  Speaker 12: many snaps each quarterback will take?
• 54:24
  Speaker 14: Drake many Joshua Dobbs and Tommy DeVito this year? If
• 54:27
  Speaker 14: there's a thousand snaps, So what percent or what number
• 54:29
  Speaker 14: will eat to them take? Or how many will any
• 54:34
  Speaker 14: unknown quarterback that we don't know of at this point
• 54:37
  Speaker 14: if something happens and they bring in another we're heading
• 54:39
  Speaker 14: into week one.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: That's a really uplifting question. Obviously, you're talking if how many,
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: how many games the Drake may are going to be hurt?
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: Can I go in thinking that he's going to play
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: seventeen games? And yes, can you let me have that
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: little fantasy?
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, ninety nine point nine percent?
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just kneel down down a couple of kneel.
• 54:56
  Speaker 10: Down time, garbage time, Dobbs, is there an to be
• 55:00
  Speaker 10: up forty five to nothing?
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Can we do that?
• 55:02
  Speaker 10: Throw him out there a couple of times? Mop up duty?
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: But kind of makes me think, does Tommy DeVito end
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: up winning the number two job?
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: I think it's possible. I do dialistically. I just think
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: he's a little bit more of a fit.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: You know, in practice, Like could you tell from what
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: we'll see in practice or would have to be like, oh,
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: di Vito's going in here that the Patriots are up
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: twenty in the fourth quarters? Di Vito going in now?
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: Well, I would think like on the game day actives right, like,
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: because the emergency quarterback is the third string quarterback, so
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: typically so all of a sudden, Dobbs becomes the emergency quarterback.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: Personally, I don't think much of okay, bad uh.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Like the let's go to Providence, Randy's there? What's up Randy?
• 55:55
  Speaker 15: Hey, guys, how's going to that?
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Good? Great?
• 55:59
  Speaker 16: So I was because a lot of sports for innership
• 56:02
  Speaker 16: and stuff you hear about, you know, prep through the
• 56:04
  Speaker 16: game and people talking about Max Kraft versus Campbell, and
• 56:08
  Speaker 16: I just don't Max Crofty usually runs the right tackle.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, your your connection.
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: We've talked about that.
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: I got right though, It's kind of something that's starting
• 56:20
  Speaker 10: to annoy me. What ball nowhere?
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: You know, everybody's like, oh, like Crosby against Will Campbell.
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, Well, Crosby likes to rush over the
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: other side. So, and there's a lot of guys like Crosby.
• 56:33
  Speaker 15: T J.
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: Watt is another one that typically rushes over the right tackle.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: Von Miller historically likes rushing over the right tackle. I
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: was actually talking about Morgan Moses to Morgan Moses about it.
• 56:44
  Speaker 10: It's like, why do you think that is?
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Like, why do you think because your turnfoot is your
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: right foot, and yeah.
• 56:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know what it is that is the reason.
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: But eighty eighty five percent of the time Max Crosby's
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: over the right tackle. Now, they could say Campbell a
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: rookie in his first NFL game and we're going to
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: test him.
• 57:02
  Speaker 10: I'm not saying they.
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: Couldn't, right, But at the end of the day, I was,
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: if Crosby wants to rush over the right tackle, then
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: I'm letting Crosby rush where he wants to rush.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: Right wherever he would feel more comfortable. But I was
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: maybe I'll throw this to Evan. I'll throw Evan the ball,
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: no or bone. Why do you think more elite pass
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: rushers don't do it that way? Because wouldn't you think?
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: And I know this is a little less than it
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: used to be, but can you think the easier matchup
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: oftentimes is the right tackle.
• 57:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, well yeah, I don't know what do you
• 57:33
  Speaker 10: mean by easier matchup?
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Just like, well, generally the.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: Left tackle is a better player than the right tackle,
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: so it was tougher to beat on the pass rush.
• 57:40
  Speaker 10: Right, so you'd go against the lesser player on right.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: Which is a lot of people used to criticize. Maybe
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: old friend Brian Morey used to criticize the guys that
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: predominantly ran on that because they didn't want to face
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: the left tackle.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to get sad.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: There's also the old thing which I don't even know
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: if this is true anymore of the teams like to
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: run right more.
• 57:57
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: That's more left sides can be your blind side pass
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: protector and your right side is a little bit more
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: of your maller. I know it doesn't always work out
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: that way, but traditionally that's been the case that if
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: you're on.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: Your best pass off the blind side.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and you want your edge setter and your
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: guy who's going to be tough against it. I mean,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: and that's Max Crosby too, but you know, usually that
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: guy's gonna get stuck set in the edge.
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: You just see it a lot more now with the
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: premiere pass rushers that a lot of guys prefer rushing
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: over the right side. It's a really interesting question that I,
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: you know, wish that I had Max Crosby to ask him.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just say that. And this is completely anecdotal.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: I have no none of Evan's stats to back this up.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: But I feel like I've seen more in the last
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: couple of years, maybe even longer than that, more quote
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: unquote blind side hits from the coming off the right side,
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: where a quarterback just doesn't see him, you know, because
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: he's fixated on the other side and it's even though
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: it's coming to the front side. Do you remember the
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: play that you probably don't Evan might Anthony Richardson in
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: the preseason. Yeah, well he missed the guy that right,
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: but it was a front side blind side hit. I mean,
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: I feel like I've seen more of those in the
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: last couple of years than I ever remember seeing before.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:10
  Speaker 10: I mean that one was he was hot to the
• 59:12
  Speaker 10: right side and he didn't see the blitzer coming. Yeah,
• 59:15
  Speaker 10: so like he thought he was. I think a lot
• 59:17
  Speaker 10: of times with the.
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: Quarterbacks when they get blind sided, it's because they think
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: that they have the numbers to the side, so they're
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: not expecting the guy to win as quickly as he
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: does because they think that they have the hat on
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: the hat to that side.
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: In Richardson's case, he did not have had on it
• 59:31
  Speaker 10: all right.
• 59:32
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  Speaker 1: How are we doing? Karen? Thank you.
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  Speaker 19: Can you shed some light on why it made sense.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: To release growth compers?
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  Speaker 20: Well, I think that these things, you know, are tough decisions,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 20: you know. I think we're just trying to get it right.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 20: And I got a lot of respect for Jabriel as
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 20: as a person and as a player, and what we
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 20: felt like was in the best interest of a team
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 20: at this point.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Was was allowing him to have another opportunity elsewhere.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 20: And there's a lot of things that go into these decisions,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 20: and you know, they're never easy, and we're just trying
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 20: to get it right collectively. And again, I know that
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 20: there's a personal side and professional side. I've talked about
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 20: that with the players this morning, and whether you agree
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 20: with it or disagree with it, just just try to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 20: respect it and.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Then move forward and continue to build a team, continue.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 20: To build a program, and I know, Gabriel, you know
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 20: we'll we'll do we'll do good things in this league
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 20: and the outside of the field as well as passionate player.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: And again got a lot of respect for him, Oh
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: my god.
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  Speaker 19: In terms of intangible s, you brough out a lot
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 19: of what you'd like to think about passion plays.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: The allowance was there was there a ski fit issue?
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  Speaker 20: No, I don't think that was certainly not, you know,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 20: not the issue. There's a lot of reasons. You know,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 20: I wouldn't say that.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: You know, that's you know, we're we're going to try
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: to do what's best for the team.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 20: We got a lot of different schemes that we can
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 20: run in all three phases, special teams, offense, and defense.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 20: So you know, there's there's a lot that goes into it.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 20: And again we're just trying to build towards Sunday here
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 20: and and that's our focus. And again that the decision
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 20: that we had to make. And you know, again wish
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 20: the best for Jabril.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Fall off from the untrim takes like through a lot
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: of experience.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 20: Well, I think that his athleticism, I think his range
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 20: in the in the field, and then the more he plays,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 20: I think he'll continue to get better. And you know
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 20: that that's the hope there with with Craig, and you
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 20: know we'll see with with with with Hawk and with
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 20: Doug and obviously Dell working back there now. So you know,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 20: just trying to find a role for everybody here.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: Have you kind of made a conscious decision to put
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: your infrot on the team?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 20: Is the number of guys who have been the leaders
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 20: with that first lb Cardona, Andrews, Jonathan Johnson, fut twise,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 20: they were still hit the.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: Leaders assessions, they're tremendously successful to so like whotho less?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Have you made a conscious decision to kind of we're
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: gonna pivot a little bit from that group of leadership
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: to a.
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  Speaker 20: Different I don't you know, never really thought about it
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 20: in terms of of that when we tried to make
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 20: decisi Some of those players were free agents, some of
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 20: them work currently on the roster, So you know, I
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 20: don't think that's ever been a conscious decision. I think
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 20: we're just trying to evaluate the roster and you know,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 20: provide the pieces that we feel like we need right now.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Do you see a core of leaders who are are I.
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  Speaker 20: Think that that has to happen every year. You know,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 20: we voted for captains. We'll we'll inform those guys here
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 20: before practice. You know, the players voted this morning, so
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 20: we'll inform those guys before practice. And I think we
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 20: all know that every year is a new year in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 20: this league and that's kind of how it how it goes,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 20: and so the leadership has to grow from whether it's
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 20: a captain. We talked about that not having any restrictions
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 20: on leadership and hopefully that at whatever level, we have
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 20: guys that that can lead. So you know, we'll have
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 20: captains and then we'll have hopefully a lot more leaders
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 20: as well. But yeah, I wouldn't anticipate Yeah, I wouldn't
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 20: anticipate him out here, uh here today. So hopefully that improves.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 20: But you know, he's working hard and trying to improve
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 20: and he wants to be out there. And you know,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 20: I think this is good for us and for Christian
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 20: and the team is you know, try not to be frustrated. Obviously,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 20: those things happen, and it's how we respond to him.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 20: It's it's how hard we work to get back the
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 20: communication all the things that that he's doing, so, you know,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 20: just continue to work hard to get back and try
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 20: to make sure that you know we're doing everything we
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 20: can to help him.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: They're concerned for him on Sunday with the timing dates.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 20: Well, again, I think that uh, having to get him
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 20: back for practice first and then we'll have an update
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 20: and status for for Sunday.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, maybe never not to be frustrated.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: Is that something into the team Christians.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 20: Know, that's my own personal experience of you know, when
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 20: you're not in there right, when you're not in there
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 20: with the team, I guess, and I appreciate you actually
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 20: clarifying or asking. Those are just things in the course
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 20: of of my career or being being a coach and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 20: dealing with players that they want to they want to play,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 20: they want to be out there, right, So those are
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 20: I guess the things that I have tried to talk
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 20: to all the players about is the time that you're
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 20: not on the field, is how you stay engaged and
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 20: stay into the meetings and the schedule and just you know,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 20: they all want to play. So again, I think that
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 20: was just a broad term for things that I've tried
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 20: to focus on when guys aren't out there that could
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 20: go for Jilani or anybody else.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: At this point, I appreciate that step back off. Well
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: it just hasn't gone.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 20: You know, again he's working hard and whether it's again
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 20: we could say this one injury is going to be
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 20: three to four weeks, one's going to be one to two.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 20: Everybody heals differently, So just making sure that when the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 20: players are back that they can do their job with confidence,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 20: that they can protect themselves on on the field, and
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 20: that they can't make it any worse. Those are some
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 20: things that I try to use as guidelines for when
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 20: players are ready to play and get back there, not trying.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 10: To get questrated with this about what have you.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 9: Seen doctor, and specifically that you definitely have at that
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 9: position with the dogs design.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 20: I mean, I think DJ was one of our more
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 20: improved players over the course of from rookie mini camp,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 20: which is you know he participated in that as a
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 20: veteran that had the ability to participate in that till
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 20: now you know, Double A has done a nice job
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 20: of going out there and playing corner and playing nickel.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 20: Marcus provides a lot of leadership in there. It's been
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 20: good to have CD strengths some days together. So you know,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 20: it provides opportunity for the guys, and we'd love to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 20: have Gonzo back, you know, trust me, we would. But
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 20: I think the other guys that have stepped up and
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 20: tried to uh take advantage of the opportunity.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: Jim Hopkins big symmetry fit for his defense for this team.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: For Mayer scheme.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 20: Well, again it's this is not a scheme dependent, you know.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 20: I mean we've we've run a lot of different schemes.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 20: We've had a lot of different players play different positions
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 20: for us. I think he's come in, he's played fast,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 20: he's communicated, he's tried to play with some you know
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 20: violence around the line of scrimmage and and you know
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 20: whether that's on the perimeter passes that we saw in
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 20: some of the earlier games.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I think he's comfortable.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 20: And you know, again, the more reps that he's gotten,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 20: I think the the better he's gotten it.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: And we'll hopefully perform. What do you look about.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 20: I think you're always looking for young defensive linemen and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 20: guys with with good size and and and length and production.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 20: So somebody that we had targeted, you know, through the
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 20: draft process as it got to the towards the back
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 20: end of the draft, and you know whether that was
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 20: whether he was going to be drafted or not. And
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 20: I think just the personnel department focusing on some of
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 20: those players at cutdown day and having a good list,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 20: and you know, some of the players that we were
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 20: able to add.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: I'm really excited about working with here.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 20: Haven't really been able to work with him since we
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 20: claimed him Thursday and then when we added Airic.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 10: And now great moments in.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: History.
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  Speaker 5: The neighbor that burns everything, plastic everything, now that's now
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: that that's bad.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's even even I would say. But I don't
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 10: get Matt's.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: That must be an awful smell is horrible when he
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: does it.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: It's always the guy that burns the leaves too, and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: it's up.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: I don't mind leaving, but it ends up.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: With like a blaze and ashes are coming into my yard.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: Though when he's doing.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: Well, you're not supposed to burn leaves. You can burn
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: brush and stuff, but not leaves. But people, I know everything.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: I got a guy across the street smokers, he's got
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: he's got his main driving paved, but then he's got
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: this back road which is all dirt. And he could.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: He keeps putting down wood ships, and every time it rains,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: the wood ships just drain right out into the street.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: He doesn't get it. It's like it's not gonna work.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: How many times are you gonna do this? He keeps
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: doing it, and it keeps just running right out.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 10: Just keep it dirt or paving something sounds like a pillow.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: But like the first time, the first time you look
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: at it, Oh, that didn't work, and you don't do
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: it again. He keeps doing it.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 18: That's another great moment.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: Back here at Patriots on Filtered A five five Pats
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• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: on break about last night's uh.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: Not good bob. Yeah, tough debut for Billy Bellachi.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not good Bob. They'll get better. They will get better,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: I think I think the.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: I think they will as well.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: But the other the thing that surprised me was how
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: sloppy they looked about the talent we knew they were
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: going to be. You know, they're gonna have a hard
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: time competing with good teams because they're not going to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: have their players yet but they couldn't execute snaps, you know,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: whether it be a shotgun special teams were a mess, bad,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: like just bad football.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: But the other Patriots coach who made his college coach
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: and debut did very well.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: I thought fourteen to seven Watricia, the number one ranked
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: team in the country, we should all be thinking.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: His defense played out. They they showed up.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of cutups going around of some of
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: the exotics that he was running, like some of the pressures.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: And single handedly took arch Man NFL NFL schemes.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: At the collegiate level, well, I think it's a lot
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: of people were talking about that.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: It's funny because you know, they're like the skuis and
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: coverage and these college quarterbacks are like, what the heck
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: is going on? Like you can just see arch manning
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: like looking around and guys are dropping out and they're
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: spinning the dial, and he's like, what the heck. But
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: you know, only teams like Ohio State have the horses
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: to actually execute that type of defense. So that's why
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: you don't see it across all college But when you
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: have you know, Caleb Downs in Ohio State secondary, you
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: can go ahead and do some of those NFL things.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: Remember Caleb Downspread, Okay, yeah, talking about him on'll be
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: on the February.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: But when when arch man do the bars of the
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: world like did their heads like explode? Because so I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: would just.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: Say that arch Manning took arch Manning out of the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: Heisman conversation. I just think I don't think he played
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: very well.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 10: I think he was in a blender. But I think
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 10: that those two things go on.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: I think that's part of being a great court.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: I saw there was there were the cutups that I
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: was looking at and I was like, he looks like
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: you knows where he's supposed to go with the ball,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: He's just not getting it there. But the one ball
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: that I would say was in a blender, to Evan's point,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: was the pick. It's just dumb, Yeah, like you try
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: to throw like an over route into like bracket cuts
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: like it was red shirts everywhere. It was one of
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: those defensive team meetings. Someone was going to pick that off.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: That was a really bad play. But I just think
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: he was He was off until the end of the
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: game when he down fourteen to nothing. That drive that
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: he put together to score the touchdown, the touchdown throw
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: was really good. And then he had another throw down
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: the sideline and the next drive that he dropped one
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: in perfect on the sideline I think to the tight
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: end for like thirty yards, but then he missed an
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: easy crossing route on third and five. He knew exactly
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: where his guy was. Best player. Who was that speedster there?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: To get his name? Now that's my problem when I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: watch these college games. I'm like, Oh, that guy's good,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: and then I forget the names.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 10: Yeah, a lot of Texas receivers are under classmen.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: They had Goolden and one of they got.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 10: All those guys go to the NFL, so they have
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 10: a lot of younger receivers. But it's just Ohio State.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: It's one of those schools that has the talent on
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: the defense to actually do some of the things that
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: Patricia was doing. But I guess is that a lot
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: of these offensive minds in college.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: Well, we'll catch up. Mattie p was really good, really
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: good first game.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Does that Alabama head coach finish the season the bear?
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: But I will say yes, but I don't think he'll
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: be the coach next year.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. William the wide receiver for Alabama hurt. Did he
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: come back in the game.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: It was like the second to last play of the game.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: Ok.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: I don't think, but I think he got can cussed
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: his head right.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: I watched the play. It didn't look like it was
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: that straight on of a hit.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: I know he didn't get hit. That's why I took
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: the targeting. He hit his head on the ground.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Oh on the ground.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, but he had a tough game. He
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: did not play well in the game.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah Williams.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean nobody.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: I mean Caden Proctor, their left tackle is supposed to
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: be a top ten pick in this upcoming draft, and
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: he got beat by a freshman.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 10: I got true freshman.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you watch much of that game, Freddy.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: Florida State dominated that game the last fifty one. The
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: first nine minutes, Alabama went down the field. It was
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: like North Carolina last night. It was a long drive
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: that went down and scored the rest of the game.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: Florida State killed them. The game was not as close
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: as the score indicated.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 10: I think you look at all these college games, so
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 10: you do. It was just one week. But the Patriots
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 10: stinking in a quarter good quarterback class, I think is
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 10: like such a great feeling if you're a Patriots fan.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 10: Because if I had to sell myself on Arch Manning
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 10: and sellers a kid from South Carolina that played the
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 10: other day, or club Nick from Clemson, or ness Meyer,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 10: any of these guys I do like, I would be concerned.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: It's just tco. But Hoover looked pretty good.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: He's a good player. Yeah, he's not considered one of
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: those guys that Evan's talking about. It is supposed to
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: be a strong quarterback class. I don't think arch Manning
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: is going to come out. But the other guys that
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: that Evan's talking about are all I mean, I think
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: field Yates has one, two three right now. I don't
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: see that. I don't see that talent. But I do
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: like ness Meyer.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 10: Ness Meyer is smart.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: You can tell that he gets you can think the game,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: and he can really connection there with Meyer.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 10: Will Campbell's dating his sister.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Relieve, did you know that, Paul. I did not know that.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: That to me is not a connection. But I thought,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: you mean, like I was thinking, I was thinking of
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: his father is like a coach, Like Will.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Campbell is dating his sister, that's a connection, But what
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: the family.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 10: I did not think any of the quarterbacks looked great.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: No, I mean the defense. Defense is controlled almost all
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: of the games. You know, eventually the Miami game, you know,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: got to like twenty seven to twenty four, But even
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: that game, I thought the defense is controlled most of it.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: And Beck is another one of those guys that a
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: lot of people think as a fresh rounder. You know
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: who did throw the ball? Well, now they didn't face anybody.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: Is the kid I don't really think all that much
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: of is Drew Aller from Penn State. Yeah, but they
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: played Nevada and they completely dominated side note Will's friend played.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: Oh my buddy from Bishop Fenwick. When you say played
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: as he did, he played late in the game tackle
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: defensive tackle.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool. Okay, back to the phones, we go
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: eight five five pats five hundred to see one of
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: your sons, Nolan earlier. We'll go back to him. Nolan's
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: in New Hampshire. What's up, Nolan? Nolan? Wow? Two strikes
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: and you're out. We'll go up to Boston Cream. What's up? Boston?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: Crean did use a Boston Cream?
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 15: No more stripes, buddy, it's a home run right now. Okay,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 15: I got some trivia for Paul, mostly because I've been
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 15: listening for almost fifteen years, and I really want a
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 15: T shirt. All right, It's it's really hard to stump
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 15: Paul and be fair, but I did my best here.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 12: Paul.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 15: You locked and loaded there, buddy, I'm ready.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 15: The name what was the name of Jellette Stadium before
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 15: you left? Bought the naming rights?
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: CMGI Field?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 14: Darn it?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, come on, I knew that one.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 15: Yeah, oh no, oh, trust me. They get more, they
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 15: get more difficult. Nineteen ninety four Drew Bledsoe through the
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 15: ball seventy times in a game?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: Who's the opponent, Paul Minnesota?
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: Come on?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: I thank Evan would have gotten I know it wasn't
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: even born.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 15: Okay, I'm not feeling very confident here, but that's okay.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 15: Who ended the.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: Forty five for seventy for four to twenty one and
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: two touchdowns, no picks, no sacks, overtime touchdown pass to
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: Kevin Turner. In case you want to know any more
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: about that.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 15: Game, I think Paul Knight might need an assessment. Was
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 15: that the spectrum this memory is crazy?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 13: Okay?
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 15: Who ended the Patriots twenty one game Witten streak Pittsburgh?
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: What week and what year Week seven of four?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 15: I had Week one, but no, it wasn't that.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: It could be wrong, definitely wasn't wasn't a week one?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: They were six and oh and ty Law Brocus.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it around Halloween?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah? I thought it was weeks I thought there was
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: six and oh. Now it could have been week eight.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: They might have had a buye.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: I don't remember that.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: I don't remember the forf I'm pretty sure that they
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: were six and oh and they lost at Pittsburgh. Yeah,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: they got They got blow blowed out at Pittsburgh. As
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: Evan Emmitt Smith would.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: Say, what happened in the playoffs, they blew Pittsburgh out.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh got blowed out.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: They take all right, Boston Cream, you're on the hook.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 15: Heah, No, this is my last last attempt here to
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 15: stumpfall in two thousand and seven. In the two thousand
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 15: and seven season, who is the only team to come
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 15: within three points of defeating the team during the regular season?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: I think that's a trick question.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Who was the only team to come within three points?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: So Philadelphia lost? Philadelphia lost by three, But I thought
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: baltimoreill lose by four? Maybe, Okay, Yeah, Philadelphia I'm gonna
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: say thirty one, twenty eight.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 15: Okay, I'm starting not to trust my sores here.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: Okay, that might be wrong.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, what's your huh?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 15: But it was twenty four to twenty to the cold
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 15: the story, I said three, it was four points.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: Okay, chez, I want to say cheez. I want to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: say that was an aj feely game for Philadelphia thirty
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: one to twenty eight.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: What was the final score? That Samuel was a huge?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, that was thirty eight, thirty five. That was another
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: three point game.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 10: Twenty four to twenty Colts's correct, thirty one twenty eight, Philly.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 10: Paul got that one.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: That's why I said it's a trick question, because I
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: thought there were more three point.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: Games Baltimore twenty seven to twenty four of the following week,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: thirty eight, thirty five Giants.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: There's three three point games in a four point game?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not every game.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 15: I can't stump the guy.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, try again, Okay, Boston Kareem, thanks for the call. Man,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: send them a T shirt anyway, Man, send the man
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: a T shirt.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: I want to be charitable.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: Anyone who listened for fifteen years, you know what the
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: hell right?
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: Why not give him a T shirt.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: All right, we got a ton of emails, A ton
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: of emails.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: Why don't you read something I will.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: We'll start with Claudio Teichman, who's writing in from Brazil. Think,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: uh no, that's yes, he is. He's from Brazil. He says,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: did the Patriots play with white jerseys on Sunday? Doing so,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: it forces the Raiders to play with black jerseys. I
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: remember twenty ten home opener against the Bengals. We played
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: with white jerseys.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: So if it's really sunny, they did in two thousand
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: and eight too, when Tom Brady got hurt.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 10: So I don't think it's going to be hot enough
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 10: for that. This isn't this is in South Florida.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: Well, we talked about like regular trivia if it has
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: to do with anything attire.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: I like you all right, But what patches were they
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: wearing on Week one two thousand and eight when Tom
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: Brady got hurt. Every team in the NFL had a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: patch on their jersey for Week one. One team wore
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: to patch the rest of the year, but only one
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: game everybody in the team had a patch on there.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: You remember what that patch was?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 10: Let me think, no picture Brady, you know he drops
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 10: back two thousand, Oh, we got hit in the knee.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: They're wearing white jerseys. There's a random, big circle patch
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: on them, commemorating a certain someone who passed away his
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: initials longtime NFL PA raider.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, Gene Upshaw.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: Guh. I was gonna say bront workware, but.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was always that. I wouldn't say the labor thing.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: I would gu that was always the Brady like whenever whatever.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: Watching random NFL highlights and you see like a game
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: where the two teams have the goo patch on.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: I'm like week one, So I go to in ninety
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: four they all had seventy. Whenever I see those highlights,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: I'm like, God, that was from the ninety four.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: So you go, bust the cream. You could have taken
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: my question. You would have he would have gotten the
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: T shirt. Well we got a T shirt anyway, didn't he? Congratulations?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: Do we send into Canada?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: Any of you guys watching the Cowboys documentary series?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Watch I've got it downloaded. I haven't started it yet.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: I have to watch the final one. I watched the
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: first seven. It's it's not bad. It's not bad. It's
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: like any other documentary you have to sort of. I
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: say this all the time. I'm you decide do I
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: want full access or do I want the unvarnished truth.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: Generally you don't get both, right, and they have a
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: lot of access. Yeah, you know, so, I do think
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: Jerry Jones tries to portray himself in a manner in
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: which I would say is a little bit yeah, disingenuous.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: But it's worth watching. It's worth watching.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: I've got it downloaded.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 10: That man loves a press conference. Watching the Micah Parsons
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 10: trade press conference, I was like, this is like theater.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 10: I couldn't shut it off.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: The other part of it is it's really true to
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: today because of that, because when you're watching it and
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: you're like, oh these things, he went through this thirty
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: years ago, and it's the same thing happening now.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: I was pretty surprised Parsons actually moved.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: So we didn't talk about that at all. Oh, a defensive.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: Tackle, I mean good defensive tackle.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: I think it's a good trade. I mean I think
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: it potentially can be a good trade for both sides.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have done it if I were Dallas. I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: think I just think he's too good of a play
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: to willingly.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: Just so you're saying you would have paid them.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: I would have paid him that contract.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that's what they were going to do.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I can I actually can see both sides.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: I can see both sides.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 10: It's a really good haul. I mean, first round pick.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: I just thought about the herschel Walker thing, that's what
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: everyone was thinking of.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: But it's nothing compared to that. You know, that was
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: eighteen players.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 10: I know thet it's different.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: It's a part of that trade. They got a whole
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: there's a part of that trade that I and again
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: you get reminded of these details when you watch like
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: a documentary like this. Do you know that they got
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: like five players from Minnesota in addition to like I
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: think it was like two or three first round picks
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: or whatever. That there was like a handful of picks
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: plus five players. But as part of the deal. Ev
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: you'll love this because I know you don't remember this
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: because again you weren't alive.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 10: I don't think I was actually for this one.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: They made an agreement. Dallas made an agreement with Minnesota.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: If any of those players gets released after the season,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: they will they will require additional draft picks. So Dallas
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: had no intentions of keeping any of these players. Mike Linn,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: who was the GM of the Vikings at the time,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: said yeah, yeah, you know you'll you'll keep those players.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: And he didn't believe them, and he goes, no, no, no,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: And that's how they got all the additional first round picks.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: Right from from that, they got Aikman right then they
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: get three.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think it was they got Smith. I
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: think it was Emmitt Smith is the only one of
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: the big three. But they have like Darren Woodson, I
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: mean Hall of Fame players. I want to say, like
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: Darren Woodson, Russell Maryland, guys like that. They mean the
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: core of their team they built there. I think some
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: of the linemen were part of those, but it was
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: ended up being eighteen players.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 10: But trades like obviously you're not times have changed.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: You're never going to see something now, right, But it's
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: I think it's a good haul for Dallas. And I
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: think if you're green Bay, you're a really good team.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: You kind of stuck behind some other really good teams
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: and maybe this puts you over the top. So I
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: understand what Green Bay is looking at. It is like
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: we're going to be picking from what twenty five to
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: thirty two ish, so the two first round picks. Yeah,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: no one wants to lose first round picks, but end
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: of the first round probably if everything goes right.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: And if and if somebody told you you're going to
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: hit on a Micah Parsons on one of the next
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: two first round picks, would you take that bet?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 10: I mean his age helps too, Like he's only twenty seven.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, these players don't come along off and that's
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: don't get a lot of these deals with guys in
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: that prime like that, and there's like, you know, people
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: want to say, like, oh, Brandon Iyuk, you know, like
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: and they know that those are good players and stuff,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: but there's just like AJ Brown, Michaeh Parsons, there's a
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: select handful of Khalil Mack, true special Khalil Mack trade
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: and people look at that and what did you do
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: for Chicago?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: It wasn't because of Khalil Mack. He was really good
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: for the Bears for a couple of years and he
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: was I think only twenty seven at the time.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 10: Parson's a better player, yeah, better all around.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: H Dana. When Chicago writes in Pumped it's finally game
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: week question, does Morgan Moses not being a captain mean
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: they expect Marcus Bryant to overtake him at right tackle
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: in the near future.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't look that much into it, but I was
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 6: surprised that Morgan mos wasn't a captain. Yeah, but I
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: wouldn't jump to that conclusion about it being depth chart related.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: I just I don't know, so obviously something else related.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that was interurprised too, especially as we've been
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: in the locker room a little bit more. And you see,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: I don't mean this in a negative connotation, like he's
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a pie piper, Like he seems
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: like he's talking to everybody and everybody checks in with him.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: And I saw him like just busting Kaden Wallace as chops.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: You know, it seems like he has those vibes. But
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: I was surprised that he wasn't.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: Cody writes in the One Elephant in the Room for
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: me is are we getting close to hitting the panic
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: button on whatever is going on with Gonzales.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't hit the panet really. I mean, I think
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: he's definitely concerned and it's not ideal, but I still
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: stick with what Paul's kind of say, like I want
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: him for the bulk of the season. I want to
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: end the season well, like I don't want to rush
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: him out there and put everything we have to get
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: a Week one win over the Raiders and then he's
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: lost for the season. You know, I'd rather have him
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent at the end when you're gonna win
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: games and maybe put a nice whatever it could be
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: nice finish to the season, whether it's you know, preventing
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: someone from making the playoffs, making the playoffs yourself, just
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: finishing with a couple of wins that give you some
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: confidence going into the next offseason.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, a lot of uniform stuff. I guess the Rivalry's
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: release last week got people thinking. But David Mayne a
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: lot of Peppers emails too. I too was surprised by
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: the cutting of Drabrill Peppers. This is David Maine. I
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: said that already. My first thought was that Putts Elliott
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: we Wolf cut the wrong safety, followed by shot that
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: they couldn't have at least traded him for something. Now
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: I tend to think that they were saving money for
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: someone special. Do you think, yeah, Nuggets, do you think
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: that they are just budgeting for Gonzales next year, followed
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: by may or do you or do they want to
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: have cash at the trade deadline? Or maybe both? What
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: do you guys think? By the way, congrats on hiring Claudia.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately Claudia is not with us anymore. Uh. Claudia was
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: offered and accepted a job with CBS.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: S Fred out did himself and his kingmaking or queen
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: making abilities. It didn't even take a season.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: It took two shows, two shows with us, and boom, Yeah,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: she's going. She's moving to Florida to work for CBIN
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: what I was getting. I really liked her. They saw
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: her on our show, and CBS hired her.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: That's CBS network. I believe she's going to be on Saturdays.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: So I'm not exactly sure. I think the h Q show.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: I think she mentioned to us, Mike, So yeah, I
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: been working looking out for that.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: She's like a good kid. So I'm working on at
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: her house for her. I'm working on it.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: Mike, you're up this week, just me and you, buddy,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: you call me. We don't need we don't need no hosts.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: I'm ready.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: Hey, Uh, you know, we don't want you if you
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: don't want to be part of this show. It's just
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: me and Mike. By the way, we're down together. Bro
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: won twin Powers.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: One more quick joke though, like the Jabil Peppers post
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: where it was like, I've been through seven different head coaches.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: Like it felt like somebody be like, I've been through
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: seven marriages. I know what it takes to make it work,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: you know, like, I don't know if you're making I
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: know what.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: His point was about the same thing, but I do
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: like I've been through seven head coaches. I don't think
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: that means what you think it right, right, I wasn't listening.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: The guy's been in the league for eight or nine years,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: he's been with seven different head coaches. I don't think
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: that's a feather in your cap, right. I think that
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: means you've been around a lot of losing yep.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: I mean he said it. He's never won a playoff game.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: He's you know, I don't know he's played in the
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: playoff robin.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: He's never had a winning season, winning season.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: True.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: See now Mike will now take part in that because
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: he's no longer on the page. I don't snap back
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: at me when I said that Paull texted me.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: Paul texted me, they're like saw your fear loss, which
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: a few people did while I was on Friday sitting
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: on the beach, just which.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 10: I love how he puts that in there, like I
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 10: wasn't even painted.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: I'm yeah, But I texted pallback it was all it
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: was all downhill after he started wearing the Garden Games.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: That's when I was out. It's all about fashion produced
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: Robin in the Caskills. I've heard different opinions about how
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Josh is going to use Drake. Will there be designed
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: runs for him or do they not want him to run?
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: Do you think he'll run more or less than last year?
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 10: I think there will be more runs by design. I
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 10: think the goal is to run less overall, but more
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 10: runs by design. I think in particular like their low
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 10: red zone goal line package. I'm very excited to see
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 10: that come.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: To life because I agree with everything you just said.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 10: I think there's gonna be some cool bells and whistles
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 10: once they get inside the five to punched them in
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 10: that Drake will be involved in.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: Well, Kim Newton twenty twenty, Well you're getting your next
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: email ready, Freddie.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: I wanted to go back to a couple of emails
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: ago about the Peppers release and just blame for Elliott Wolf.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: No one legitimately believes that Elliot Wolf had anything to
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: do with releasing Jabrill Peppers, do they.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he was in on the decision,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: but it was Rabel's decision.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: Right, I mean, if the head coach, I'm sorry if
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: I'm not being disrespectful to Elliott Wolf, but I think
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: that's a head coach decision, right.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: The GM isn't going to tell the code coach who
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: doesn't fit in his scheme, right.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: Right, even if it's about scheme, not about scheme whatever.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: I want to release this guy, and it's not about
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: the cap. It's not about the cap, it's not about
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: anything in the future. They decided, you know, I think
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: Rabel just wants his guys.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: Wasn't Travis and West Virginia and Josh McDaniel's twenty fifteen offense,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: Deon Lewis was out of a cannon, averaging seven carries
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: and seven targets per game through the first seven games.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: Can Trevion Henderson approach the same volume right away or
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: will he need to build up to it?
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: Seven carries. Absolutely can do that. Yeah, I just don't
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: think he can be between the tackles every down back.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 10: I think he's gonna touch the ball at least fifteen times.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: But you want to give him ten to fifteen touches
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: a game, I think you can. Absolutely.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: It's an interesting calm. I mean it's Dean Lewis was
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: much smaller, but more Yeah, it was different player, but
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: still just the willingness to give a high volume of carry,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: high volume, but a significant volume of carries and touches
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: to a guy that I mean they caught up with him, right,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: I mean he couldn't stay healthy getting hurt.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was dynamic for.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: Us that run against Dallas, remember that one where he
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: was like just stucking under guys.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 10: Remember, well, different players but similar in times of usage.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 10: I could see that. But Dian Lowis is a pretty
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 10: high volume back for them.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: Rabels played him over Dereck Henry, who situationally the only
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: brighter flash with Jonah Derek Henry.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 12: It is what it is.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: Remember Jonas Gray for that one game against.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: Two hundred yards.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: Jonas Gray has been around a lot. We've got no
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know, he's a great guy.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: Though I can't get but I can't get him out
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: of my feet.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: He's an ambassador, he's a good guy. Yeah, we've gotten
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 6: to meet dude, like.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: He's always wearing when you guys the hype guys when
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: seeing him draft draft party stuff, And we did a
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 4: draft party with him, and I think that's where we
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: kind of got to still like a little time in
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: the in the green room as they call it, Paul
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: in the in the TV industry, we hang jonas every time.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: Those green rooms. You spent a lot of time in
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: green rooms.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: I have Oh yeah, do they have those at the NBC?
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Waiting to go on? Is there a green room at
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: your show's note eight point five On the side, there's
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: no waiting area.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: There's there's different places that you can go, but I've
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: never been. It's like it's like an office. On one side,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: there's a little small area with a couple of computers
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: where generally the next show kind of congregates. So like
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: if I'm doing the ten to two show, yes, I'll
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: sit in this little area I see and there's a
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: couple of computers over there where Tom Morrigan and Tyler Milliken,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: the two producers of the ten to two show. They're
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: on their computers, get stuff ready. But I wouldn't call
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: it a green room.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's pretty cool that works on a big show.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: Joseph and Hillsboro, Oregon to ten am yesterday.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: I urge you a little different, bringing in different the
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: pels flowing like five point thirty.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: I did have a Celsius for I have my first
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: ever Celsius.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: Got a little bump out of that.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 5: I don't really feel like I did, but really it's
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: that doesn't taste bad though.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: No, but how did you not get a bump out
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: of that? Because that's like ten times more caffeinated than pei.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 10: Kind of bumper bumper, you know, I didn't energy bump.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: I didn't notice anything. But I don't know. So you
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: know a little bit about Celsius. I did not a
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: sponsor A little bit. I'm not saying anything.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: I think pe Okay.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: I just don't want to make I don't want to
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: get in trouble like so if you have like two
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: of those, you probably shouldn't. I was gonna say f no,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: but no, no, okay, no, That's why I was asking no,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: because I I definitely want I definitely wanted another one
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: because you know, like I usually in shows, I wanted another,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: Like I drink a lot of diapesty.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: That's the thing about you, though, I forget. You don't
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: just have one diet pepsi.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: You have like ten, I've had two.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: You are having a celsius.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily to do it, but ten that's a stretch.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Well not really.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: But I had one celsius and I liked it.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 12: It was good.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't notice like I was waiting to feel
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: like my heart start pounding out of my chest and
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: my eyes because I don't drink those energy drinks.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had the kids all stuff, and I
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: feel it.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never I've never had a celsiate my whole life.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: That was my first.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 10: You should not have you drink like three things of
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 10: a duncan nice coffee, And.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: He starts doing a little dance. Yeah no, there's the
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: gritty in the.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: Compet to day for me.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: Actually did have a coffin.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: Sorry I did.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: I stopped the Duncan I did anyway.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: Joseph is in Hillsboro, Ore. Again. He says, when our
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: defense is fully healthy, what eleven do you envision most
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: consistently being on the field in third and long situations.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: They have Barmore, Williams, Chase, Chase On, Chase on Splaine Splaine,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: and then yeah, but like who's the who is the six?
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 6: Landry Davis, Austin Woodson, Hawkins, Marcustration.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just like we're talking about these a lot.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not really saying key on White much like I
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: just I wonder if he's he could be in the
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: mix for one of those interior ushpots. You know what
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: I want to bring up, though, is Barmore because he's
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: been he's been, Like I don't think anyone talks about this.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: He's been in and out of practice all summer long.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: He's misfund practice. Is he going to step right in
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: on Sunday and play eighty percent? I find that guard
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: to believe. I found it hard to believe.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 5: The almost you almost never do that opening day anyway.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: But especially he might have like a third down because
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: we talked about who's going to start, and I was
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: looking at Barmore and I'm like, it could be Tonga,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: it could be just Tonga and Williams, and then Barmore becomes.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 5: But I'm going to guess Pete Carroll's going to want
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: to do what Evan says that Josh McDaniels is going
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 5: to want to do, and it's going to be feed
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: Ashton Genty And if that happens, if that's what they
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: look like they're going to do, Tonga is going to
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: be in there.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe the new guys you bring up Pete Carroll, we
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: haven't really talked about him, the new head coach of
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: the Raiders. Are the Raiders of well coached team? I mean,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: you got Pete Carroll's head coach. You got Chip Kelly, right,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: yea coaching their offense.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 5: And Patrick Graham and Patrick Friend.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: I know you hate that term, but is that is
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: that a well coached team? Like on paper?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: Shoot?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean, it'd be
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 6: really interesting to me to see what Chip does. I mean,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 6: it's the first time he's in the NFL in almost
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 6: a decade. Twenty sixteen with the Niners is the last time.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: But he's been known to be innovative, right he has.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 6: But I actually think that he's gone the other way
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 6: because his offenses really weren't NFL conducive. They weren't really
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 6: pro style, so you know, they they really slowed down
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: the pace a lot at Ohio State last year and
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 6: went under center more and you know, did a lot
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 6: more pro style elements to their offense to try to
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 6: win a national championship. So I think that there the
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 6: offenses that you saw him run like in Philly and
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 6: in Oregon, that offense is dead. He's kind of gone
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 6: away from that. So what he does is going to
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 6: be interesting though. But you know, I think it's a
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 6: big unknown about this game. Guys hasn't coached in the
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 6: NFL in ten years. You know, It's yeah, it's unknown
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 6: for sure.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: Ran Idaho. As the beginning of the regular season is
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: upon us, I'd like to reignite an old argument the
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: weekly picks need to stay. I love the segment of
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: the show and enjoy hearing your insight on each matchup.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: Might I suggest one thing to make the pick segment
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: even better? I would love it if you would add
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: a future to allow listeners to submit their picks and
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: compete with each other as well as with the ball knowers.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: Maybe there could be a weekly prize for the fans
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: with the best picks, and a prize at the end
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: of the season for the overall winner. I think This
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: would make it so much fun to be able to
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: interact in a small way be part of the show. Plus,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: I'd love to have bragging rights over fans like Christian
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: in La James Pettigrew the most interesting Patris fan of
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: the world in Patty and Agawam. But how do you
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: do that without really slowing it down?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, they could submit them online, but I
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 10: don't think maybe it's like more like a newsletter thing
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 10: that where we could like, yeah, show some of the
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 10: picks of the fans. Like, I don't think to your
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 10: point it would be too slow to do it on
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 10: the show.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: I mean there might be something there for some type
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: of fan engagement.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe we're the top five fan records, you know.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know if any place does full picks though,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: like we do it like where it's you're literally picking
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: all fourteen sixteen games, and survivor pools are obviously really popular,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 6: but that's a different animal, that's a different sort of thing.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, uh, pat Nagawam a little uh listener on
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: Listener Crime. Here he says this is for Travis in
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: West Virginia. Don't ask real football questions because it displays
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: your intelligence or lack thereof, stick to doing what you
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: do best, crapping on me the subject matter of the
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: offseason and being the general malignant turd with incorporeal takes.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: In corporeal, Yeah, I don't know that word incorporeal.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Anyway, you're smart.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 5: You went to Holy Cross, Mighty Travis.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: Does Travis wrap on Patty and Aguamal. I don't even remember.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: I don't even remember what his football question was. It
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: was it that dumb I don't remember. I don't know.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: I'm still trying to figure out what that word means.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: Let's see, Zach, I was literally going to make a
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: joke that Claudia will be gone halfway through the season.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: Two shows, not even one regular season show. That's nuts, Fred,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: congratulations to her.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: It means not composed of matter, having no material existence.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's dark.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: I don't hear you unless you knock first.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: Darius brings something up that's interesting from Louisville, A little
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: question observation. While everyone is worried about brock Bauers, my
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: biggest concern will be asked in genty. The dude looks
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: like a tank. Deuce can attest to that, and I'm
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: not sold on our run defense yet. Hopefully we'll be
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: able to stop the run in fronnel the offense to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: our defensive strengths quarters in D line. So what's the
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: deal on genty? What kind of summer did he have?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: And should we be worried?
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 6: I think it's an interesting like kind of weakness on
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 6: weakness in some ways, because I don't know if the
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 6: infrastructure's there with the Raiders right now to really have
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: a great running game in terms of the offensive line
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 6: and things like that. So I don't know if they
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 6: necessarily have it set up for him quite yet to
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 6: be a true you know Derrick Henry, Like, did we
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 6: got to worry about this guy type of thing the preseasons?
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 10: He can't go off much, but he didn't run the
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 10: ball particularly well in the preseason, and they.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 5: Were, to Evan's point, dead last in rushing last year
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 5: with a lot of the same offensive linemen. So I
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: don't know how much better, you know, I don't know.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know how many changes they've made on the
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: offensive line. I shouldn't say with a lot of.
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  Speaker 10: Them, I'd be more worried about them throwing the ball
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 10: to Genta, yeah, than him running it.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 5: But I but I do, I do feel like that's
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: a sneaky weakness for this Patriots defense just stopping them.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: I think they're a little bit smaller, a little bit
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: more athletic based, and sometimes those teams can be susceptible
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: to the run. And gent d breaks tackles.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: It's great, that's what he does. It's a great philosophical
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: question and one that we've talked about a lot where
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: you had that old heavy defense with the Patriots that
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: felt like it was built to stop the run, and
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: consistently they had good run defenses. But you know, is
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: it going to work that Let's just let them have
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: some of the run and we know we're going to
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: challenge the pass. We know we're going to get after
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: the passer run all four downs, all three downs. They're
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: going to make some plays, they're going to gash us sometimes,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 4: but at the same time, we think we're going to
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: be aggressive enough in the play to offset those plays.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: I just I don't know how it's all going to
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: come out in the wash. But it's just really interesting
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 4: shift in philosophy.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 5: And you guys know how I feel about the running
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: game in general, if you're a really good running team,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: that generally means your offense doesn't score a lot, right, right,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: And I know there are exceptions, Okay, I understand. You know,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: Baltimore runs the ball really well and they score a
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 5: ton of points. I get it. But in general, turn,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: if you want to run Ashton genty you know, twenty
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: five plus times, you're probably gonna put the game around
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: you know, somewhere between fifteen and twenty five. Can you
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: win a game twenty four to twenty? Sure? Why not?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: I think it also, just like to your point about
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 6: running the ball, if you don't have a running quarterback,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 6: if you're a traditional run team, like we're just going
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 6: to go under center, the quarterback is going to turn
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 6: the ball over to the running back. Like those teams
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 6: typically the Paul's pointer are lower scoring. Baltimore does it
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 6: because Lamar runs, So like that's a different thing. Buffalo Buffalo,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: same thing with Josh Allen. So you know those are
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 6: I don't think Gino Smith is a true threat. Not
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 6: that he's immobile, but I don't think that he's that.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: He's everybody's covered. I'm gonna run not right, Yeah.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: He's he runs, you know as the last resort not
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: Undesigned runs.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Eric in Rochester, New York, like every other member
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: of Patriot's Nation, can't wait for the full slate of
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: games this Sunday. With that said, wanted to play a
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: small game, if you will. I'd love for each of
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: you to predict the two biggest stories coming out of
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: this Sunday. One Patriots related, one non Patriots related. That's
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: something you have to kind of think, Oh, man, off
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: the top.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: Of your head, what do you what do you what
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: do you want the what do you want the result
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: to be?
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, what's the biggest story? Drake may is.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: Poised for a monster sophomore season with that'd be a
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: great development if that's what we're talking about. Yeah, come
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: come four oh five, when the three of us are
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 5: doing the post game show, that'd be a great development.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: They were the past rush was excellent. They were all
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: over Gino Smith all game one. You couldn't get anything going.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: That to me sounds realistic.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: But Baltimore.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 5: Has established it, you know, for the league wide one
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: Baltimore thing plays at Buffalo right, Yep. Baltimore established itself
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 5: as the front runner for the Super Bowl with an
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 5: impressive Week one win. Yeah, because I think Baltimore stacked.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems doable. How much of this game with
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: the Patriots?
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: Let me put it this way, because we were talking
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: about the Raiders coaches, We didn't talk about the Raiders owners.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: Fill in the blank. We'll know that Tom Brady had
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: something to do with this game plan.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: If blank, Oh, you know Smith the rise with a
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: funny outfit on that.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard to say because like it's not I mean,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 6: I guess maybe he could dissect Josh's like Josh's offense
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 6: for the Raiders defensive coaching staff and like reverse engineer things,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 6: but that even feels like a stretch, Like if it
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: was built, I think that would be different. But like,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 6: I don't know how much he knows what Rabel's really
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: thinking and doing.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: Uh you know.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: It was one of my favorite lines from Forest and
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 4: Fox Bro was when Rabel was with Brady on the
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: sidelines and Brady was like, I went a little funny
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 4: with this one, and Rabel like, listen, I'm sure you
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 4: did that cracked me up so good. That's how funny.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: I guess you had to be there. But to me,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: let's go watch it.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: Those conversations was awkward.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: They're well, I just it was funnyhen we were watching
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: it because we're like, jeez. I was like, Tom's got
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: some jokes tonight, Like you know, after that inspiration that
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: you think it came out with.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: You don't do that?
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: It's what I would say, is I know it?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 10: But then the roast style speech was all right.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: Let me put my other question a different way. Do
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: you think Brady is talking to any of the coaches
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: about the game or is he too busy with Fox
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: and he's not even I mean, like, what's he going
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: to tell?
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: Like how much does he know that they don't know?
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: I think he could help with the Josh stuff. Like
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: you Evint said, I just don't know how much he's
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 5: invested in I'm like, I know it sounds silly, but
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: he's a minority owner.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's a minority owner who's the greatest quarterback,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: who really does.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 5: Fox, that's really what his job is. So I don't
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 5: really know how much invested he is in the Raiders
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: right now. I don't know the answer. If he's heavily
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: invested in the Raiders, I could see him doing what
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 5: Evan said. Listen, I've went around that at that offense
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 5: a long time. You do these three things and you
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: can really neutralize it, right. I could see him doing that. Yeah,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: I just don't know how much he's involved.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't know if that that really exists.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: Eric also has a question regarding the Patriots fan clubs.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: What happens to a club if the person running it
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: goes dark. I live in Rochester, New York, and I
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: was trying for a few weeks to get a hold
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: of the person who runs the fan club here, only
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: to find out that they've stopped. Can someone else take
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: over the club or can there be multiple per city?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: I know I've heard other Patriots fans from Rochester right in,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: so I know we're here. I just want to enjoy
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: the games with other like minded fans in Western New York.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can take it, or you can just
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: start your own in Rochester. But we need to look
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: into that because if no one's running that club, we
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: need to get it out of the registry on pages
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: dot com. And if you want to start a new
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: one Rochester, New York.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: Just or if he wants to run that one, yeah,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 5: he wants to take over this existing one. Ye, but
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: is that allowed?
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: I mean there's members there. I mean I don't know
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: if there's how the club was run in the past,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: like there's elections.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know every club runs it's like a timeshare.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, damn politics always Yeah, Andre says Paul's the best. Secondly,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: how many points do you think the team will average
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: for the season over under twenty five passes and over
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: under twenty five touchdown passes for Drake may over over that?
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: And how many points per get play average?
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: How many points per game five and a half.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: Nineteen?
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know who I can tell you. Twenty four
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: point three points per game.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: Sounds right, very precise.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 5: I was a friend answer.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 4: I think last year they averaged Oh that's that.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: Can't be right.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: Honestly, it was like sixteen.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 10: I was gonna say six.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: Sixteen, So I'm averaging eight more points per game.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: Twenty twenty fourteen points ambitious.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: So twenty twenty four they had how much sixteen points
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: per game? That's terrible.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 10: We know, it's just horrible.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: Oh and I know they should have won eight or
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: nine games, right, Yeah?
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were done in twenty twenty one. They were
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: twenty seven point two. That's that's pretty good.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah, twenty twenty one is a good offense.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, some outliars, Yeah, of course, some couple some or
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty and three games right offense Cleveland
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: Jacks like that.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, I can see how it's kind of skewed.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: David, the Philippines, please stop drinking so much diet soda,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: he says. I used to do that until I had
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: a stroke, never touched the stuff. Since the chemicals they
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: put in diet soda are worse than sugar for your health.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: For all of us who want to continue to hear
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: your insights for many years to come, please switch to
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: something better for you. I personally go with water. Now
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: that's no fun, all.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: Right, appreciate it.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of concern for Gonzales. We share that concern,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: right do we?
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: Some of us have had concern for a while.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: Yep, Joel and San Antonio. I'll make this short since
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: we have picks this week and we have to hurry.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: Question for Paul, are you familiar with a broadcaster named
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: Dan Weiss. He's a fellow Northeastern University alum, been working
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: for the Spurs for a while was just named radio
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: play by play to succeed the great Bill Shooning, who
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: retired after the season ended.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: Dan Weiss, you know Dan Weiss. I do not know
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 5: that name.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 12: No.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: No, he got a job without you having a say
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: in it. You know, from Northeastern.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of people that got jobs without me
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: hearing a saying that. But I don't. I'm not one
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: of them. I stay here with you, okay.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: Loyalty Tim and Boston rights dow. He says, Patriots twenty one,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: Raiders seventeen. We'll get into our picks on Thursday, so
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: that's okay. They can do it. He says, I got
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: married on Saturday, relation I'm now on my honeymoon, relaxing
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: with my wife on the Cape.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: Nice and you're sending emails into father Fred.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: You were number my number one trusted source for restaurant recommendations,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: especially in Cape Where can we find the best lobster
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: roll near Hyanna's? Cy Do you spot Fred near Hyennas
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: Chowder would be good for Parker's, But if you want
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 3: the best lobster roll, it's a little bit of a
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: hike from Hyanna's. But go down to Falmathery and go
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: to the Raw Bar. They've got the best. Of course,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: they've got the best.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 4: What'swear across from Captain Parker's right there on twenty eight.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: The Big Boat. Yeah yeah, this guy from g L
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: Barber his brother in law owns that restaurant.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 10: He owns the restaurant.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, it's either his brother or brother in law
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: owns the rest it's the river side. They're both famous, right, Yeah,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: looks like a big boat restaurant.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 4: There's also the Pirates ship museums there which I would
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 4: like to hit. Just recently found out about that.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: But lobster roll, I mean there's a lot of good
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: lobster rolls on the cape, don't get me wrong.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 4: Stuet Harbor, that's uh, that's a famous one great location.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: Scargo Cafe.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: I went to Scargo Cafe, yeah on Friday.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: But this placed the Raw Bar in. It's in the
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: foul Myth area. It's a little town within I forget
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: the name. It begins with a P. I think Papaesse. Yeah,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's Papa Esse it but look up the
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: Raw Bar if you want the lobster role, and they
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 3: got steamers. You can't go wrong.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: They got the Steamers.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't go wrong.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 5: That's like like Joe Murray from the Sports Hub, you know,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 5: just ask him like, yeah, I'm way to go on
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: the Cape now.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows, he knows north Shore, south Shore, he
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: knows everything.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: He knows literally, any place you could mass, any place
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 5: you could bring up, he'll give you at least two.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. All right, quickly there, He's got a
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: lot of quickly, a lot of trivia questions for Paul.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: I wanted to do it real.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: Quick, real quick, and you got Sam On from Easton
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 5: on them.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll go to we'll go to the phones.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: We'll go to the phone.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 5: I want that trivia question too.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: Though, Sam's and Easton what's up? Sam?
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 11: Hey guys, how's it going?
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: Sam?
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 11: I'm just curious what you guys think the stat line
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 11: will be for the Rookie contributors on Sunday. I'm a
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 11: season ticket holder and I'll be there in person, so
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 11: looking forward to seeing those guys.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: Sounds like stat lines for the Rookie contributors.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 5: First we have to pencil in Henderson who contributor?
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Henderson Williams, And I guess you could throw Chism
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 11: in there. If you think he's gonna play, I think.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 5: You'll get nothing.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 4: I won't play.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 4: I hard to see Williams doing anything much. Maybe one
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: or two catches if you even get ten. I think
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 4: Woodson's gonna play a lot. I think Campbell and and
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 4: Wilson are going to play a lot.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: I just thought we were talking about the school guys Henderson.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 5: What did that guy say earlier, like, you know, ten
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 5: to fifteen touches, seven carries, seven targets. I could see
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: something like that in one game.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 4: True. Yeah, Okay, what about Balis and the long snapper?
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: He'll have you.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 5: I was thinking we were doing over I'm not sure
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 5: he'll be active.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: Sounded like I don't know to find out more about
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 5: the overall health of the roster, but there's gonna be
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 5: some guys that are inactive. And you go in five
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 5: deep at wide receiver, that might be a spot where
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 5: you might get in inactive.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I agreed.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: Yepism seems like he's still heard. I mean, I know
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 5: he's been he's been out there right.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's scout teaming it up. I think he's
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 4: he's he's one of her in actives probably probably.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 10: He doesn't have a role really on special teams, so
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 10: other than as.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 5: A back, he's really just a returner.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well we'll be back tomorrow Wednesday, and
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: it'll be the first day that you have a in
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 3: season practice that Evan and Deuce will be attending. Not
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: to say that we're going to glean a lot from that,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 3: but at least we might be able to get some
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: attendance going and we'll see who's out there for that.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: So that'll happen tomorrow. Mike Rabel will have a life
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: press conference on Patriots dot com tomorrow. When is Catch
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: twenty two this week?
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 10: Tomorrow ten to noon?
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 3: So right before tomorrow at ten, is that where you
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  Speaker 3: think you're going to be this season? Beat? A lot
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  Speaker 3: of people are, you know, they're.
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  Speaker 5: All over the place, so the schedule's been all over
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  Speaker 5: the place. In their defense, thank you, they have to
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  Speaker 5: adjust to the actual team.
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  Speaker 3: So, like everybody else, you think you're going to try
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  Speaker 3: for Wednesdays at ten.
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  Speaker 10: That's the goals ten to twelve, you know, eleven fifty
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  Speaker 10: five probably?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So you'll be on before our show, yes, and
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  Speaker 3: then immediately you're going to go into our show for
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, but I have a lot of FaceTime
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  Speaker 3: for Evan. But then I have to go to have
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  Speaker 3: to lock around and go to practice. So all right,
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  Speaker 3: So we're gonna end the show the way we began
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  Speaker 3: it with that great new song by Jill. We will
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  Speaker 3: see you tomorrow. Room for a loop.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, it's a Brando Hopie you season. Don't looking up
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  Speaker 7: but pause, pretty slim, we haven't tied the Knockduce gott
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  Speaker 7: a dog Bred's trying to find some one to mois
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  Speaker 7: nod and Alex is just reading the stars.
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  Speaker 2: Alex is just reading the stars.
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  Speaker 8: We've got a se house for pretty and close game
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  Speaker 8: shows that's in the booth making everything.
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  Speaker 2: We're all pretty stoked a Bras, Rabel and Meg and
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  Speaker 2: everybody still Hayton no Christian.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, it's a brand Hopie you season the past, give
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  Speaker 9: us something to feelie.
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  Speaker 2: Then we're ready for a great showIn.
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  Speaker 7: It's been too long, And I forget a T shirt.
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  Speaker 2: For writing this song.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, this is Evan. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
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  Speaker 10: Thanks a lot