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S2 11. Derek Gilbert – Giants, gods & Dragons · Millennial Mustard Seed

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I got a really good episode in store for you tonight.
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I've Derek Gilbert here from A View From The Bunker.
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Sigh Friday, sky, watch TV. I know you guys have heard of
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him. Listen, he's a wealth of
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information. This is a really exciting
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episode. Derek even talks about a
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potential, Dogman, experience that he might have had at his
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house in the Ozarks. This is a wild roller coaster
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ride of an episode. Thank you for being here.
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Let's jump right into the show, guys.
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So Derek, it's a pleasure to have you here on the millennial
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mustard see podcast. Thank you so much for being
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here. That's an honor.
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I always appreciate the opportunity to talk about this
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stuff. That's fascinating.
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This is going to be quite the ride for me and the audience
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Derek. This was a news line from
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yesterday. I'm pretty sure you had to have
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heard about this but there's a strange mysterious metal
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monolith, that was discovered in remote.
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All thought, tell him that. Did you get a chance to look
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into that? Yet, talked a little bit with
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the Steve, quale about that yesterday.
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In fact, that'll be an interview that will allow on Sky watch TV
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tomorrow. Yeah, I honestly, I don't know
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what to make of it. I mean, this was dropped into a
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Slot Canyon in a rural, it remote part of the Utah desert
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and not really sure what to make of it.
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I know that there are some out there say, well must be aliens
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now. I don't think so but why would
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somebody do that? Steve's got a thought that maybe
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this is something that some agency within the government is
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using to monitor. After behavior of some sort from
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entities of some kind. So that's a possibility is
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interesting. It might, it might be somebody's
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idea of a tribute to, I don't know, Stanley Kubrick or Arthur
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c-- Clark. I don't know, but the monolith
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from 2001 A Space Odyssey, was, was black and the kind of a
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matte finish. This is a, this is made of
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stainless steel which, you know, when I left the metals business,
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back in 20 in 2015. Yeah, you that's, that's a lot
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of money to drop into something like that.
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I mean, stainless Eel isn't cheap, especially if you're
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going to finish it out. And, you know, machine at the
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way they did, that's a big piece of stainless steel that just
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drop into the desert where nobody's going to see it, except
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a bunch of sheep wandering around loose and that's how the
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Utah, the state of Utah found it.
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There were some folks there with their, I don't know, Department
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of Wildlife, I guess counting sheep, and they saw this thing
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reflecting sunlight back at them so they landed the copter and
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got a shot of it, the part of Utah that they're in looks like
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Jordan, it looks like ancient Moab or eat it.
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Looks like engine eat them actually looks similar to Wadi
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Rum which is that red desert, south east of the Dead Sea,
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honestly, don't know what to make of it.
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I don't think it's extraterrestrial.
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I don't think we have any serious evidence of
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extraterrestrial visitation, but we certainly have plenty of
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evidence of inhuman. Visitation over the centuries.
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I don't think this is it, but I honestly I can only speculate
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You think about, you know, Sasquatch or dog, man.
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People having all these different sightings with
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modern-day Cryptids, another Book of Enoch talks about the
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mixing of animals with, you know, other animals and and
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streams things like that. The Greeks I was reading,
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there's a creature called the sign of safley, which I think it
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means the head of a dog on a man.
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And some of these reports I was reading about even ancient
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explorers all the way up to 400 years ago would talk about going
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to Africa and India and Countering these creatures that
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had the lower body of a man, but the head of a dog, some of them
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were reported to be very hostile.
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Cannibalistic things of that sort and doesn't get too much
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attention. I do listen to some other
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podcasts and follow things that pertain to Sasquatch and Dogman
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I think there's something interesting going on there.
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There's a lot of people reporting sightings on these
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creatures. What is your take on that?
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It's certainly possible. I don't discount it, I mean 25
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years ago I would have thought now this is just us all bogus.
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But I don't discount it anymore, simply because you have to admit
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the possibility of the supernatural if you are a
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Christian. So I do.
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What are they? I don't know.
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I've got good friends who are otherwise, rational, productive
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human beings, who believe that they're real, and claimed to
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have met people who tell credible stories of encountering
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these things. We've had a weird Experience
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here. At we've not we've not heard
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this thing recently. But there have been a number of
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times here at our home in the Ozarks, where we will hear what
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appear to be human footsteps on the roof of our of our home.
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It's clearly a biped because it's not, it's not a quadrupedal
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footstep, and you can tell by the weight on the decking of the
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roof. That it's something that you
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know is fairly substantial. It's not a Bird.
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In other words, we're not close enough to the trees that it
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would be a cat. And again, the foot step is
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bipedal Sharon and heard this several times and I thought,
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okay, well maybe but, you know, maybe you were dreaming and you
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heard something until one night. I heard it, too.
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I heard a thump on the roof like something had landed on it.
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And then I heard footsteps as though, something was running
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from just above our bedroom, towards our garage, and then a
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guest in our home, heard the same thing.
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We also had an incident one morning where we were heading a
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light rain outside and, you know, Springtime is kind of a
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missed a drizzle and we, suddenly heard a Thump, Thump,
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Thump, on the roof, what the heck was that?
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So, I went to look and notice that the, the umbrella that we
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have, you know, in the over the patio table to patio umbrella
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was gone. Like okay.
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What now, what's that about normally?
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We put it down when it gets windy because the wind can kick
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up a bit and it will carry that thing, even with the 25-pound
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iron stand at its base, it was gone.
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And so I looked around and found it was in the front yard.
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Now, there was very little wind out there.
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It was not because the little floral arrangements, you know,
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the fake flowers in these little baskets that Sharon had put out
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on patio table, for decoration, they hadn't been Disturbed.
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Yeah. If it had been enough.
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In to carry that umbrella and lift it over the front of the
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house. Those would have been down in
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the yard as well. So what lifted that out in
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through and that happened twice actually with that with that
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patio umbrella. It lifted her in or out of the
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25 pound iron stand at the base and flung it to the other side
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of the house. Don't know what it was, but it
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wasn't the wind. So do I think something like a
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dog, man, or something might have done it?
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I have no idea, but I'm not going to Discount the
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possibility that they exist. A lot of people are having
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experiences. As I believe we grow towards the
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end of this age. Something happened to me.
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One of my car's. The starter had failed.
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Over at my mother's house and I'm land there in the driveway,
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replacing the starter, she's sitting out there talking with
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me. Well, in broad daylight, I see
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an orb float, it must have been about 50 feet off the ground
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Eric and the thing gracefully floated.
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And I'm not talking about dandelions or beat all bauble,
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or something like this was an orb.
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It didn't quite pulsate, but it had like an intelligent movement
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to it. And this was very strange.
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For me, I'm laying under the car, it's about 10:30 in the
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morning. And I see Mom, look at that.
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Do you see that? So she stands up to look but the
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sun was in her eyes, but because I was laying under the car, so I
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was able to Pure out, you know, obviously, I'm explaining to my
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mom, what I seen, I didn't feel any fear or anxiety about that
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just was very curious. I'm like, wow.
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So I didn't really want to tell many people.
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Just that was an interesting experience for me.
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Well, Derek, it was only about two months later and my stepdad
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races motorcycles. They have a couple sheds in a
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garage about 50 yards off the Back of the house and they have
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security cameras set up there because there is a public
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walking trail. That goes along the Schuylkill
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River, that's not too far at all from where these sheds and
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garages are. Well, my mom and stepdad her
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sitting in the house and they both get an alert on their
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phone. That the camera has pick
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something up. They both at the same time,
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watch an orb. This thing is just floating
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right in the driveway and Glides by and kinda picks up and just
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scoot on through the whole video frame.
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I mean, it's like 10 seconds. Hmm.
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And I know my stepdad, then, you know, we kind of chatted with
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him and me and my mom were like, well I seen an orb in broad
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daylight just a few months. Prior, I didn't make a big deal
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about it, kind of just let it go, you know.
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I didn't want people to think I was too weird but now here we
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have an orb own video and I think it's interesting, a friend
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of mine. Tony Merkel, who has the
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confessionals podcast? I was chatting with him recently
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and he was telling me about a supernatural experience.
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He had with somebody, he believes was trying to put a
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curse on. Hex on him.
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They tried to coax him to come over and they said, oh we want
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to hear about the Bible and Tony who's a Christian but he
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interviews people who have strange Supernatural encounters.
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He's like, okay, so he finally makes plans to come over to this
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guy's house and you know the guy ends up being a whack-job.
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It tell them whose ghost in the house and all the strange stuff
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Tony's kind of like I got to get out of here man.
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You know, I thought you wanted to hear the gospel.
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This isn't what you made it seem today.
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It's in the same neighborhood that these orbs.
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I don't know if there's A connectivity there, but I think
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it's interesting. I heard even LOL say, hey, there
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was a coven of witches in Salem, New Hampshire when he was out
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there at the American Indian Stonehenge.
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You know that you see covenants of witches gathering around
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these ancient megalithic structure.
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There's got to be a connection. Yeah.
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In today's day and age, a lot of these things, just go under the
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radar for the masses, people don't really understand what the
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Bible is saying. And that there's an enemy that
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is warring against our soul. Well, yeah.
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And sadly, the church is not prepared for it because most in
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the church don't recognize it. No, you're right.
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One of the things that really startled, me was a couple of
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months ago, when Abraham Hamilton, the third who does a
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daily radio program for American Family.
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Radio really went into some detail and played video from or
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play the audio clips from a video interview.
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That was recorded back in June between the co-founder of the
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black lives matter and the head of the Los Angeles chapter
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talking about how their work is really spiritual.
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Oil more than racial. It's really a spiritual work and
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describing what they do this ritual, there's no other word
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for it that they perform and they get together where they say
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the name, say their name and they repeat these names and call
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them out. Well, you know, I hadn't paid
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much attention to it, I thought. Well, this is just like, when at
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9/11 we repeat, recite the names of the victims to, you know,
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honor the dead, and just so that we don't forget who they are.
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Well, they said, no, no, it's more than that.
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When they're saying the name they are, they believe they are
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literally summoning, the spirits of the dead so that the spirits
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of the Dead can work through them to accomplish the work that
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they're trying to do more than that.
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They pour out a libation, a drink offering for them when
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they do this. Now, that really rang a bell for
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me because that was a key element of the ancient amirite,
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ritual called Kiss, Boom, where they summoned the spirits of
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their Our ancestors, which had to be done every month on the
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30th of the month. Which in a lunar calendar is the
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night when there's no moon. I'm even 4,000 years ago, they
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understood the night with no moon is a night with the veil is
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the thinnest between the worlds. This was the responsibility of
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the eldest son of the family, the heir of the Family Estate.
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He had to take over this ritual and summon the family wealth of
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the spirits of the ancestors, but they were considered the
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family gods. Did the teraphim that Jacobs
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father-in-law? Had the family gods?
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That his wife, Rachel stole. That's what these were for this
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monthly ritual. Were you had to summon the
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ancestors and then you would feed them Scholars, have broken
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down the Ritual from texts that have been dug out of the sand
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and ancient Syria from ancient Syria from ancient Iraq.
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The amorites brought this into Mesopotamia.
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When they, emigrated there, around the 23rd 24th century BC,
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they would take bread and literally smear.
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Bread on the faces of these little statues, representing
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their dead, ancestors to feed them, and then they would pour
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out, a drink offering a libation.
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The son, who was responsible for, this was literally called
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the poorer of water or the son of the cup.
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And this was such an important thing, that people who didn't
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have children would make would would contract to people who
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would perform this ritual after their death.
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Because it was believed that if you died and you didn't have
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your descendants. If your descendants didn't
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perform. This ritual you were condemned
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to Star for all eternity. You would live on dust and Clay.
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If your descendants did not perform this ritual.
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So here you've got in the 21st century on the streets of
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America. Are these people who are
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following the leaders of what they believe is a racial Justice
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movement and believe that they're just performing a
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ritual. To remember those who have
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fallen in violent encounters with the police. when instead,
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what the organizers of this organ of this group are doing in
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their minds is literally summoning, these Spirits pouring
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out a drink offering to them and then concluding the ritual by
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saying a Shay Ashay comes from the religion of the Yoruba
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people of Nigeria and is part of their religion.
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I forget the name of it off the top of my head, but it is the
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basically, it's the Wellspring from which we get the religions
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in the new world Voodoo and Now, there's another, that is similar
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to it. That I'm forgetting it.
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The Chicago White Sox manager back in 05 when they won the
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World Series. Ozzie, Guillen was a
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practitioner of it. But anyway, this is a religion
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that is literally dealing with the spirits of well demonic
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spirits, just like the ancient amorites who believed that they
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were venerating the dead just like the ancient Greeks and
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Romans, when they venerated, the heroes were literally venerating
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the spirits of the Nephilim, the origin of demons as we showed in
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veneration believed by the early church for the first four
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hundred years after the resurrection.
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It was the default understanding.
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It was the, the consensus of the early church that demons
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originated from the spirits of the Nephilim.
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This is described in the book of First Enoch.
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Again, it was Augustine who kind of got us off that track and got
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us to a No-No. Was the the righteous sons of
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Seth? Who married the wicked Daughters
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of Cain? That's what Genesis 6 was all
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about. It's like, no, no, that that was
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not the understanding of the early church.
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That would not believe you, right?
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That's the Seth. I'd view.
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That was not the understanding of the early church.
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When you read, what the early church, fathers wrote about the
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origin of demons, the consensus View for the first four.
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Centuries after the resurrection, Ocean was that
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those were the spirits that preceded?
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The hybrid Spirits had proceeded from the, the children of the
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sons of God have been a hot Elohim or the Watchers and the
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daughters of men. And we have gotten away from
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that for the last sixteen, hundred years, thank you,
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Augustine, brilliant, Theologian, but wrong on that
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point. But a key point on which to be
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wrong because now we see things like the Day of the Dead
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celebration in Mexico. As nothing more than a cute
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cultural thing that Mexicans do to just honor the spirits of
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their ancestors. No, I'm sorry, but it's messing
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with demons and it's a, it's a practice that goes back more
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than Thousand years to ancient Mesopotamia and the black lives
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matter co-founder, the head of the Los Angeles chapter openly
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admit that that's what they're doing.
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They are performing this ritual on the streets of America today
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when they say the name in fact there's a video out there that
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people can find of dr. Molina Abdullah, who's the LA
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chapter ahead, performing this ritual and pouring out the drink
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offering inside a Methodist Church in Hollywood and the
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people there in the church like it.
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Wait a minute, wait a minute. Making offerings to Demons here.
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Nobody's like just no big deal. No big deal because we don't
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understand what we're dealing with in modern-day America.
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The interesting thing to me is that I'm not an expert on the
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history of the Yoruba people, but as I understand it, they
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emigrated west from the area of Sudan around the 8th, or 9th
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century ad because they were pushed out by Arab Muslims who
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were expanding their territory from Arabia.
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And so, they may well have been in that Circle of cultural
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contact with the ancient amorites.
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Going back, you know, maybe a thousand years earlier and and
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picked up on the practice then and then just brought it to West
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Africa when they emigrated. So, but whether it was
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physically through physical contact that way, or just
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through contact from the spirit realm, the principalities and
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Powers, who intercede to intervene in human Affairs.
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That ritual is now taking place in 21st century America on our
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city streets. Now, does that mean that these
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demons are being given more power because they're people
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doing the rituals know. They've only got As much power
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as God is going to allow them to have.
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What it does say though is that there are more people here in
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America today who are giving those Spirits permission to
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enter into them and work through them.
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And that's resulted in what we've seen is like the the most
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costly period of violent protests in American history.
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The protest connected to antifa and black lives matter in 2020.
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Yeah. This year has been like no other
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time in my lifetime. You know we wait patiently
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because we know the Lord is going to crack the sky, like a
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supernova. He's going to pull back the
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veil. It's clear to see that.
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This spiritual darkness is in overtime right now.
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They're an Overdrive. I've just doing everything they
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can. I want to ask you about the
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Divine Council. Now I know you said you spoke
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with my Kaiser before I'm aware of some of his work on the
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listen to a little bit of the naked Bible podcast from time to
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time, he moves very quickly and covers, a lot of deep ground
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share with me in the audience. About the Divine Council.
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The Divine council is a concept. It was well known in the ancient
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world. In fact that term is more or
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less used in in Psalm 82. And I'm going to try to bring it
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up here so I'm not calling Hang it up from memory, it made a lot
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of sense and I game I was basically just digging into the
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internet back in 2004 2005, looking looking for anything.
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I could find that helped make more sense of the Nephilim.
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I mean they had to be in the Bible for some reason.
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If the Bible is the word of God and you got this weird section
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that describes these Mighty Men Who were of old and just four
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verses and then you get another brief reference in Numbers
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Chapter You're 13. The point of the Divine Council
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concept is that the spirit realm is a lot more active and a lot
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more. A lot richer than we've been
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taught in our Church's. Most American Christians don't
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believe that Satan is a literal and today they think he's a
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concept or a force or a symbol of the evil that exists in human
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hearts. The Holy Spirit, just a symbol
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of God's love now to real entity demons.
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Yeah, you know, we haven't dealt with them since the first
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century. Three.
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They kind of left us alone after the apostolic age, that's kind
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of the view that most American Christians have.
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But that's not the view of the early church and I think we do
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them a disservice. It's really condescending of us
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in the 21st century to say well yeah, these apostles who were
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learning at the feet of Jesus, they really didn't quite
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understand the theology. The way we do today in the 21st
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century, how arrogant is that? That that the apostles who were
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writing about things like principalities and powers and
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Thrones and dominions referring to literally evil intelligences
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who want to harm us and saying, well, yeah, but they didn't
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really know. They were superstitious, they
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were primitive. They didn't have Science and
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Technology. We've been blinded by science.
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We think that we can solve everything with science and many
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of us in the Christian church are guilty of that.
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And you know, I'm the same way. I mean you're raised up in
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America today with the idea that science has the answer to
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everything that the only means of finding the truth.
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The only method of finding the actual capital-t truth is
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through science, but science, as it's taught to us begins with
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the presumption that if you can't see it measure it somehow
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with our human. Senses.
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Even with the use of instruments that we can then, translate into
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signals, that we can perceive sight, sound, whatever with our
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human senses, it doesn't exist. But we know that's observably
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untrue. I mean, how do you quantify a
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thought, or measure an emotion? We know they exist but you can't
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see them or measure them. And yet we're willing to say
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that God does not exist because we cannot perceive him with our
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human senses or the instruments that we can create with which we
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you know, point at the stars or whatever it is a fundamentally
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flawed worldview and for Christians, it should be
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absolutely ridiculous. Our default setting should be a
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Supernatural worldview. We claim to believe in a God.
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Who spoke the universe into existence.
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And literally raised himself from the dead.
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And yet, we're not going to believe that anything else
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exists in the spirit realm, even though his word tells us that
22:56
they do the term, the Divine council is found in Psalm 82.
23:01
And this is something that my Kaiser will point to and say,
23:03
when he was a young, man, this is what really set him on his
23:07
course of research because it's absolutely mind-blowing.
23:09
When you consider the implications here, this is
23:12
essentially a courtroom scene in The, Heavenly realm, Psalm 82,
23:17
beginning at verse 1, God has taken his place in the divine.
23:20
In Council in the midst of the Gods, he holds judgment.
23:25
Now, in Hebrew, that's Elohim has taken his place in the
23:28
Divine Council in the midst of Elohim.
23:31
He holds judgment the word Elohim like deer or sheep is
23:36
singular or plural depending on context and clearly.
23:40
One cannot take one's place in the midst of oneself.
23:45
So Elohim is taking the place in the midst of the Elohim midst of
23:49
the Gods. Well, who are these gods?
23:52
The Jews of the ancient world, understood the disciples and
23:56
apostles understood. They were the what we would call
23:59
angels in English who made up his Heavenly Court.
24:03
We even see an example of this in First Kings 22 which is the
24:07
story of God, talking to his counsel, his court and asking,
24:13
how are we going to deceive Ahab into going into battle against
24:16
the syrians? So that he may fall in battle,
24:18
and one spirit, says, one thing. And another says, another and
24:21
finally won Speaks up and says, I'll be a lying spirit in the
24:23
mouth of all of ahab's, profits and will deceive him into.
24:27
And and God says, you will you do?
24:29
So and you will succeed go forth and, you know, go ahead and do
24:32
it now. Did God need.
24:34
Any advice? No, of course not.
24:37
Why did God? Why does God have a council?
24:39
If he doesn't need it, he created them.
24:41
The Angelic realm, the inhabitants of the Angelic realm
24:44
for his own pleasure, the same way he created you, and me, he
24:47
doesn't need us either. And yet, here we are having this
24:50
conversation, and when you continue on through Psalm 82,
24:54
you see God decreeing, the death of the Gods, which again is a
24:59
mind-blowing concept. This is not polytheism but is an
25:05
understanding that the ancient Jews had it's in his
25:08
understanding that the first century church had the early
25:12
church fathers had this same understanding, it wasn't until
25:15
about the time of Augustine in the early 5th Century that the
25:19
church began to move away from this idea that there were other
25:22
small G gods in the spirit realm.
25:26
And, you know, that is kind of led to where we are today.
25:30
Now what I am expressing With this, this view this Divine
25:34
council, worldview is not the default setting for most
25:40
seminaries today, most of our pastors come out believing that
25:43
there is one God and yes, one capital G, God is correct but we
25:48
English speakers attach a certain meaning to that
25:50
three-letter word, g0d, that was not the way it was understood
25:55
2000 years ago. 3,000 years ago, the authors of the book writing
25:59
under the influence of the Holy Spirit had a different
26:01
understanding Standing of the concept of small G OD.
26:06
Then we do and all that Mike is encouraging us to do all the
26:11
Sharon and I are hoping to encourage people to do and teach
26:14
people to do is try to see the world through the eyes of the
26:18
man, who wrote the words of the Bible, under the influence of
26:22
the holy spirit. Because, you know, they might
26:23
know a thing or two Derek. Even when we look into, like,
26:27
you know, the ancient Greek culture all the way from Africa
26:29
to Northern Europe, the Middle East Asia, the American Indians,
26:33
they all have carvings etched right into the Rock depicting
26:37
battles. And encounters with chimeras and
26:40
we see it written all over history.
26:42
It's amazing. So what is the connection
26:44
between these ancient mythological creatures with the
26:48
Bible? I mean, how would you, you know,
26:50
Express what the Greeks were we're dealing with and writing
26:53
about, and how does it all kind of intertwined together with the
26:55
word of God? Well, that was really the, the
26:58
reason I wrote the book last Clash of the Titans again,
27:01
getting back to the idea of the Nephilim and their the term by
27:05
which they were referred to later.
27:08
Ref. I aim in the course of
27:10
researching my first book, The the great Inception.
27:13
I started just searching through academic papers looking for
27:17
references to the ref, I eme just to see if there were other
27:21
cultures around the ancient Hebrews.
27:23
Who knew what those things were, the ref IE more mentioned a
27:27
little bit in Deuteronomy and in Joshua, I think there's a
27:32
reference in, there's a reference in Genesis as well.
27:34
The, the war of the nine Kings, the five of come from the East
27:37
to do battle. The the Four Kings of Sodom
27:41
Gomorrah and their allies and they have to defeat ref.
27:43
I am tribes in the transjordan, the lands later called Ammon and
27:48
Moab, and Edom on the way down to the region, around the Dead
27:52
Sea. So the ref I am were known to
27:54
the Hebrews but did Moses just make them up to try to demonize
27:58
so to speak the people that the Israelites were going to push
28:01
out of the land of Canaan. Well, it turns out.
28:03
No, the ref. I am were known and not only
28:07
known. To the Canaanites but they were
28:09
venerated worshipped by the Canaanites and there's evidence
28:12
going back to the time of Abraham that in Northern Syria,
28:17
The amorites Who, by the way, you that's almost
28:19
interchangeable with Canaanite. The Canaanites were just
28:22
amorites who lived in the western part of ancient
28:24
Mesopotamia. They understood the role of the
28:28
ref. I eme, who by the time of Moses
28:32
and the Israelites only OG there, the conquest of Canaan
28:35
only OG was the last of the remnant of the ref is But they
28:39
were venerated by the neighboring Canaanites as these
28:43
Mighty Kings, who lived in ancient times.
28:46
Oh, okay. So those Mighty Men Who were of
28:50
old the Nephilim after death, in the flood of Noah, their Spirits
28:56
were considered these to have power in the afterlife.
29:00
They weren't on the level of the great Gods like Baal and L and
29:04
asherah but they still had power to influence.
29:08
The the land of the living and just within the last 40 years,
29:12
there have been several texts from the ancient amirite,
29:15
Kingdom of you Garrett, which is on the Syrian Coast
29:19
Mediterranean that summon the ref, I aim to a ritual meal at
29:25
the the sanctuary of L or the threshing floor of L.
29:29
And by the way, when I'm saying, l in this context of this is not
29:32
El elyon or El Shaddai, meaning Yahweh the god of the Bible, but
29:36
L the Creator, God of the cane, It's a different entity
29:39
altogether. This threshing floor or
29:43
sanctuary of L or Tabernacle of L is according to Scholars, most
29:48
likely the summit of Mount Hermon.
29:51
Which, if you're familiar with the Genesis 6 account, and the
29:53
parallel account in first Enoch, which expands on it.
29:56
That's where the Watchers, the sons of God, who saw that the
29:59
daughters of man were Fair, that's where they descended and
30:02
made their Mutual pact to corrupt Humanity by taking wives
30:06
mingling their seed with Tarzan, teaching us things, we weren't
30:09
supposed to know. So these rephaim are summoned to
30:13
this ritual meal, where it is believed that the name of L and
30:18
that's a whole other discussion. Just the the name theology.
30:21
The name is not just the reputation of the God, there's a
30:24
power to it. It's like another aspect of his,
30:28
of his personhood, the name of Elwood revivify or Resurrect The
30:33
Ref. I eme, and these texts literally
30:35
say that when they're summoned, they met After chariots, they
30:38
travel first one day and then another and then arrive at dawn
30:41
of the third day. So they mean that that to me was
30:44
mind-blowing but what was even more astonishing was finding a
30:48
paper from 1999 by the Estonian scholar.
30:50
Am are on news? Am a are a NN U s--.
30:55
He's done some remarkable and my Kaiser will, you know, he's the
30:58
one who pointed me in his Direction.
31:00
A Marat news has done some incredible research in this
31:03
area. He showed that the origin Of the
31:07
Greek term used to describe the men who lived during the golden
31:12
age, when Kronos ruled in heaven.
31:15
Okay. Now Kronos was the king of the
31:17
titans. The Titans were the old gods of
31:19
the Greeks who were overthrown by Zeus and the Olympians and
31:23
then cast down to Tartarus where they are banished.
31:28
And, you know, people might remember the movies Clash of the
31:30
Titans and Wrath of the Titans and Percy Jackson and the
31:33
Olympians and how Kronos is the bad guy?
31:35
You don't want let him out of Tartarus, because he's really
31:37
mean, and would be dangerous to set him free.
31:41
Well, yeah, that's that's true. True enough.
31:46
This term that applied to these men who lived in this pre-flood
31:50
era, when Chronos ruled in heaven Murat base anthropoid.
31:54
Okay, anthropoid is a reference to humans As you know,
31:58
anthropological is the comes from that word, but marah pays
32:02
is the term that Homer and hesiod?
32:04
The two Greek poets wrote. A lot of what we know about
32:06
Greek mythology. Actually the religion that word
32:10
merapi actually derives from the same Semitic root from which we
32:15
get ref. I am And he established that.
32:19
Wow. So the Greek understanding of
32:21
their Heroes, the demigods of the golden age.
32:26
The pre-flood age, when Kronos ruled in heaven derives from
32:31
ref, I aim like, oh, okay, that's interesting.
32:37
And then he takes it. A step further and shows that
32:39
the origin of the name, Titan in Greek, for which there really is
32:43
not been a satisfactory explanation. derives in all
32:49
probability from the name of an ancient Amorite tribe called the
32:53
Tada new Which are well attested in Mesopotamian history that did
32:59
AA. New were known in the middle of
33:01
the third millennium BC. So we're talking 24, 2500 BC,
33:06
the Sumerians were afraid of them, consider them a threat.
33:11
They were wild dangerous, they lived out in the open, they ate
33:14
raw meat, didn't he didn't live in proper houses like, you know,
33:18
nice civilized Sumerians did when they were buried, they
33:21
didn't have proper Graves. And and in fact, the last
33:25
Sumerian Kings to rule over Mesopotamia what Scholars called
33:28
the third dynasty of UR, who ruled between about 2100 in
33:33
about 2000, BC. Just about the time, Abraham was
33:36
born. They actually built a wall near
33:39
modern Baghdad. 175 miles long to keep out the tadano.
33:45
And and we know this because they found inscriptions that
33:48
describe the name of the wall, as literally, the Amorite wall,
33:52
that keeps the tadano away. The problem for the last
33:57
Sumerian Kings of Mesopotamia is that it didn't keep the tadano
34:01
away and around 2000 BC their Kingdom fell.
34:05
There was a hundred years of kind of a dark period then
34:08
suddenly by 1900 BC about the time that Abraham was making his
34:11
way towards Canaan roughly all of.
34:15
These Amorite kingdoms were in control of everything in ancient
34:18
Mesopotamia, from what is now Western Iran to Southern turkey,
34:21
to even Northern Egypt was under the control of amorites and the
34:26
chief God, of course, being welder Creator God, L the chief
34:30
got Bail, the storm God known to the Greeks as Zeus and the rest
34:35
of the pantheon. So this is what, and what has
34:40
really been astonishing for me to learn is that over the last
34:43
40 or 50 years now, It's just that recently that Scholars have
34:47
begun to realize. Yeah, you're, you know, there
34:49
was this Cult of the Dead that venerated the ref.
34:52
I eme all around ancient Israel and in fact, it even lured in
34:56
the Israelites. Well, that was the point of the
34:58
book, Sharon and I wrote a year ago called veneration on how
35:02
this veneration of the Dead. In other words, the spirits of
35:06
the Dead Nephilim was a snare that Drew Israel, and even
35:11
before they cross, the Jordan River to attack the city of
35:14
Jericho, And how that was still a problem. 700 years later when
35:20
when Isaiah was condemning Israelites for eating forbidden
35:25
food, like pork and in an eating amongst the tombs where they
35:30
were practicing these rituals. And we go into some detail about
35:33
the Amorite. Rituals that have been attested,
35:35
going back to 23 2400 BC. It was a snare, but we also
35:41
showed then this with this connecting paper, really?
35:45
Lee Central to the whole thing am are honest and that paper
35:48
showing how the Greeks and their demigods were really just
35:52
they're understanding of the ref.
35:54
I aim that were venerated by the ancient amorites and the
35:57
Canaanites. So, Heracles Perseus Theseus,
36:02
bellerophon Cadmus all of them by definition were Nephilim and
36:08
the veneration of the heroes. The way they practiced it was
36:12
very similar to the rituals of the amorites practice with Niels
36:15
held at the tombs where they were summoned by name and that
36:19
as we showed in the book veneration was brought into the
36:22
Christian church. Because it was so ingrained in
36:25
the culture of the people who lived around the Mediterranean
36:29
that the early Christian Church, wouldn't give it up.
36:33
And it was Augustine in the early 5th Century, who said, you
36:36
know, the souls in the spirits of the Saints can intercede for
36:40
us in this life. He tried to christianize the
36:41
practice and that's how we get the veneration of saints in the
36:46
Roman Catholic, and Orthodox Churches.
36:48
Today, it all goes back to the ref.
36:50
I aim the Nephilim. So these entities have been
36:54
behind the scenes all this time like Meandering through and kind
36:58
of like showing up in the secular culture as well to
37:01
influence things and cause confusion.
37:03
Jin. It's crazy to hear it sounds
37:07
crazy. But when you start looking at
37:08
this and realizing that the information on which we are
37:12
basing, our conclusions is peer-reviewed secular research
37:17
from archaeologists in a pig refers who study these ancient
37:21
texts? You can't reach another
37:23
conclusion. This is not internet level
37:25
research and I don't, you know, be little internet research
37:28
because that's what got me started down this whole thing.
37:30
But in order to make sure that we Got the right conclusions.
37:35
We wanted to go beyond, you know, stuff that I found it
37:39
somebody's website, or what have you show me the work of the
37:43
archaeologists? What is this text actually mean?
37:46
How does this connect to that? And when you when you start
37:49
piecing, the puzzle together, the picture becomes clear that
37:51
yes, these entities have been interfering in human in human
37:57
history since the beginning and you're my Kaiser explains it in
38:01
his book, The Unseen realm. Which if your listeners It read
38:03
it. They really need to as
38:05
foundational to all of this. I'm on the edge of my seat right
38:09
now, just listening. I'm like, oh my goodness, so
38:11
real quick, I want to ask you about this Derek in the Psalms
38:14
where Jesus is saying, my God, my God.
38:16
Why hast Thou forsaken me and he goes on to say and strong Bulls
38:20
of Bashan, having me Compass around me.
38:22
Mmm, the Bulls of Bashan. Are they also in reference to
38:25
the spirits of the Nephilim will?
38:26
Absolutely. Yeah, but Sean was the region to
38:29
the South and Southeast of Mount Hermon and it was known in the
38:31
ancient world as Ali, the entrance to the netherworld.
38:36
We knew that this was the case, but Sharon, and I stumbled onto
38:41
some information from the Israel, archaeological
38:43
Association, or the Antiquities Authority.
38:47
That's what I'm looking for. The IAA, the Israel Antiquities
38:49
Authority on the locations of dolmens in the Golan Heights.
38:54
Now dolmens are megalithic funerary monuments that are made
38:59
out of really, really big Stones.
39:00
A lot of them are just a simple trilithon construction.
39:03
We get Big slabs of stone standing vertically parallel to
39:06
one another and then like a tabletop across.
39:07
The top, looks like a real simple version of, you know,
39:12
Stonehenge put a bunch of them in a circle, you have something
39:14
like Stonehenge. Well, there are more of them
39:18
concentrated in a smaller area in the Jordan River Valley than
39:21
pretty much anywhere on Earth. I guess Korea actually has more
39:23
dolmens than the than the Jordan Valley but from the Dead Sea up
39:28
to Mount Herman, there's something like 25,000 dolmens
39:31
that have been found so far and 5,000 of them.
39:33
Malone on the Golan. Willie D.
39:37
Israel, Antiquities Authority has a map of the location of
39:41
these dolman fields. And when you look at the map and
39:44
just plot the red dots out on a Google Earth, it's like there's
39:48
this big cluster of red just to the North End Of The Sea of
39:51
Galilee. Okay.
39:54
Now, what is that about? And then you start
39:58
cross-referencing that with some of these texts that have been
40:01
translated just within the last 40 years from this ancient
40:04
amirite, Kingdom of you Garrett. And you find that in one of the
40:07
stories, this is the called The Epic of a cot AQHA.
40:12
T a cot is a young hero who is the son of the king whose name
40:18
is Daniel. Interestingly.
40:21
And he's given this this really awesome Bo by the Craftsman God
40:28
and the war goddess an at decides that she wants it.
40:32
So she asks him for and he said no I don't think so.
40:36
It's similar to the way the in the Gilgamesh epic.
40:39
He refuses the advances of the goddess inanna and and that is
40:43
is kind of an aspect of inanna who is like the goddess of sex
40:48
and War. So he refuses to give her the
40:52
bow, so she conspires in has some other entity kill him and
40:58
the father Greaves, and in this epic, you read that, when I find
41:02
him, I will agree for him. I will bury him in a hole with
41:05
the gods of the earth and the gods of the earth in Hebrew.
41:09
It's a Retz Elohim. Now, it's written that written
41:13
in Hebrew, but that's the cognate for the ugaritic, but
41:16
what he's referring to bury him in a hole in the Earth or a tomb
41:19
in the Earth. With the gods of the earth.
41:23
He's referring to the ref. I eme.
41:26
So he searches, and he repeats this, this formula like three
41:30
times. And finally, he finds the
41:31
remains of his son and says I will bury him in a tomb with the
41:35
gods of the Earth or for the gods of the Earth at kinneret.
41:39
But kinneret is the Sea of Galilee.
41:43
So there's this understanding and this, this text written
41:46
about the time of the judges shows that even in Northern
41:49
Syria near the border of turkey, there was an understanding among
41:53
people in the time of the judges that there was something special
41:57
about burial for special persons, who wanted to join the
42:01
Council of their the Assembly of the ref.
42:03
I eme after death, these, you know, powerful entities, not as
42:08
powerful as the big Gods but still you know, powerful enough
42:12
that they would be buried. At the Sea of Galilee in the
42:15
land of Bashan. Like, all right.
42:18
Well, that's really curious. Again remembering that Mount
42:22
Herman was the location of the threshing floor of the
42:26
Tabernacle of L, the Creator, God of the Canaanites and his
42:29
assembly. But at the foot of Mount Hermon
42:32
caesarea, Philippi also called Benaiah sore, penny has The
42:36
Grotto of pan, which was believed to be even an ancient
42:39
times the literal entrance to the underworld.
42:44
Our friend, dr. Judd Burton did his doctoral
42:47
dissertation on the religious history of papayas and Scholars
42:51
have found Inscriptions in Greek.
42:55
That made it pretty clear that some of the sacrifices that were
42:58
tossed into the cave because that used to be the origin of
43:02
the River. Jordan, it is shifted since then
43:04
because of earthquakes that it was, there were human sacrifices
43:10
that were tossed into the, the water there and it was believed
43:12
that if the sacrifice sank and was accepted.
43:14
But if it didn't, if it just floated, it was rejected by the
43:18
God. So there was something about
43:21
that area. It was believed going back at
43:25
more than 3,000 years. For sure, based on texts that we
43:28
now have that, something about that whole land from Mount
43:32
Hermon down to the Sea of Galilee was like a giant
43:36
necropolis. And again, we've got all of
43:37
these dolmens at probably date back to 0, the time of Abraham
43:42
or earlier. So 2000, BC, maybe even earlier.
43:45
And then when you start looking at some of the other weird stuff
43:48
that we've stumbled across their, I mean, gilgal riff I
43:50
aim, which is what's called is, Israel's Stonehenge, except that
43:54
it's older and bigger than Stonehenge.
43:57
You know, the concentric Rings circles that about 20 miles
44:00
south of Mount Hermon, you can see Mount Hermon plainly on the
44:02
Northern Horizon from gilgal rephaim.
44:05
The Scholar has done the most recent excavation there.
44:07
Dr. Michael Friedman said that in all likelihood, this was part
44:12
of a prehistoric, Cult of the Dead.
44:16
Okay. So in his most recent dating
44:22
pushes the, the construction of this back to probably about 30
44:25
750 BC. So no, okay, Abraham, roughly
44:31
2000 1900 BC, okay. That's when we start getting
44:34
into historic biblical Territory, go back to 3750 BC
44:40
possibly as far back as 4,000 BC and you've got this huge Huge,
44:45
Monument, engineered and built. Just for a cult of the data
44:51
means things 500 feet across something like 40,000 tons of
44:56
stone compared to Stonehenge, which is got about 25,000 tons
45:00
of stone. What's even more interesting is
45:04
that when dr. Friedman was Excavating there
45:05
back in 2012, they found an older wall.
45:11
Outside. The the area of gilgal of the
45:15
the actual Circle itself gilgal ref.
45:17
I am outside the outer ring which apparently had been
45:20
dismantled to build gilgal rephaim itself so there was
45:26
something else even older on that location.
45:30
But what blew us away was after? We got back from our tour of
45:34
Israel in 2019 and I decided to look at the area in Google
45:40
Earth. I wanted to determine the
45:42
direction of the gates because there are two gates that enter
45:45
into this maze. One in the one, to the
45:47
Northeast, one of the southeast. And I noticed a quarter of a
45:50
mile north of gilgalar. Fim was this long serpent shaped
45:55
Ridge about a quarter of a mile. North of gilgal, ref a Masai.
46:00
Sharon, can you come here and take a look at this and see if
46:02
I'm imagining things. She said that looks like a snake
46:05
like well yeah, it kind of does doesn't it.
46:08
So, I remembered I had seen an academic paper about gilgal
46:11
rephaim with a map on it that plotted out the locations of all
46:15
of the dolmens and burial Cairns these these megalithic tombs The
46:20
date back to this period of History, 3,500 to 4,000 BC and
46:25
lo and behold all of the, the tombs in that area are clustered
46:30
with a few exceptions, but they're clustered on the back of
46:33
this three quarter of a mile, long serpent shaped Ridge.
46:37
Now interesting. Why would they do that?
46:42
Yeah. Is this Ridge natural?
46:43
Well, most scholars. Believe that it is that it was
46:45
just like a Big Blob of lava. That hit the earth in a weird
46:48
shape and cooled there, but it's 20 to 25 feet high is about
46:52
3,700. Feet, long 3 quarters of a mile,
46:55
which means that it is about three times longer in about four
46:58
or five times higher than the Great Serpent Mound in Ohio, And
47:03
it's covered with 130 dolmens in about a dozen megalithic Cairns
47:09
which are just big piles of rock under which somebody was buried.
47:14
Dated to that same period of history and maybe a little
47:18
earlier and what? Dr. Freedman said was it thing
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that's really bizarre is that at some point around 3500 BC or
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thereabouts? There were a few dwellings on
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the back of this maybe I don't know the caretakers for the
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property, I don't know. But all of these burial to these
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tombs and Karen's are on the back of this thing.
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None of them on the low ground between it, the quarter mile
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between it and yoga RFI team At some point, they knocked in the
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the appeared of knocked in the roofs of these houses that they
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were dwelling in blocked up. The door's broke all of the, the
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basalt utensils that they used in the home, like, bowls and
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things like this, just broke them.
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And then set the whole thing on fire and then buried it and then
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left and was not resettled. Nobody knows why Absolutely
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weird. Now what does this have to do
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with the Bible in biblical narrative we're just saying look
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we got this long, serpent shape thing, covered with tombs, a
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quarter of a mile, north of this big site for venerating the dead
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within eyesight of Mount Hermon. In the middle of a place called
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Bashan. And oh yes, the word DeShaun in
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Hebrew is a cognate, which means same word different language for
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the ugaritic word. Both on which means serpent.
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In other words, ahava Shan was ruling over land.
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That was literally called place of the serpent.
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Now, if you want to get into Revelation, what's even more
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strange is this, there was a myth in ancient aquella CAD, you
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know, the land of Sargon, the Great going back to probably
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2600 BC. Now bearing in mind that that
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was probably what 1,200 years, thirteen hundred years after
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this long, serpent shaped Ridge was abandoned.
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Okay, there is a And inscription, a, a piece of
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artwork that's on display at where's the Bible lands Museum
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in in Jerusalem, maybe, but anyway, it depicts.
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The hero Warrior gotten in Narita battling a seven-headed
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serpent. And one of the heads, by the
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way, seems to have suffered a mortal head wound, anyone who's
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familiar with Revelation chapter 13, that should ring a bell.
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But what's fascinating, is that the tide the name of that
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seven-headed serpent in ancient? A cad is Bosch mu Bosch mu is
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the Acadian form of both on or bhushan?
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So you've got the seven-headed serpent that had to be defeated
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by the warrior God. In order to create order out of
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chaos because that seven-headed serpent was just another name
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for Tiamat or Leviathan, the chaos dragon.
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And it's name was Josh mu or Vachon.
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So, OG of Bashan, is it a coincidence that when Moses and
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the Israelites on live, their first military Target was not
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Jericho. It was odd of Bashan.
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Yes. Whoa.
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Oh my God. I know it's mind-blowing.
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We're going to write a book next year.
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In fact, it well, it may have been pushed back because we
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pitched another idea to Tom Horn, but we plan to write a
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book simply on this this, this story of the primordial serpent
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representing chaos, that had to be defeated and certainly this
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this mound in Bashan will be part of it, but that will
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probably factor into another book.
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That were writing next year anyway.
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On that whole region, and the supernatural connections, along
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the Jordan River as I sit here. And just listen, I'm, I'm
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enamoured. You're a wealth of knowledge.
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You covered so many things tonight.
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I'm really excited for the audience to hear this episode.
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I hope maybe next year, I can have you back love to.
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I love to learn and I you know, credit my mother.
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You know, God bless her. She's 83 years old and still
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with us. And every chance I want to take
51:35
every chance I have. While she still with us to give
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her the The credit for teaching me to read and to love it and
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teaching me to learn and to love learning.
51:44
But more than that, she was a school teacher in her younger
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days. You know, one room School House
51:48
in the middle of North Dakota decided she didn't like the
51:52
winters there and moved. But anyway, that spirit that
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that love of teaching to I think has been passed down to me.
51:58
So, you know, when I get opportunities to talk for people
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who enjoy hearing the things that I'm excited about happy to
52:04
do it anytime. Well, any last words, you want
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to say to the audience before we Wind down to the end of the
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episode here. I know that a lot of us have
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been looking at the presidential election here.
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And it's really easy to get very angry about what has gone on.
52:19
I think anybody who thinks clearly and is not overly biased
52:23
one way or the other can say, yeah, there are real
52:25
inconsistencies. Here it is.
52:26
Just highly highly improbable to the point of impossibility that
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the man who's likely to be inaugurated.
52:36
January 2020 is, is was Actually the winner of this election, but
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the one thing we need to remember is that in all things,
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you know, January 21st of 2021, no matter who is inaugurated,
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God will still be on the throne, but we know.
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As Jesus told the apostles that he is gone on ahead of us to
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prepare a place in his father's house.
52:57
There are many mansions and if it weren't so he would have told
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us. God is still in control and if
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he's allowing this it's only because he's getting ready to do
53:06
something. Something perhaps, even more
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incredible than we can imagine. So we are to keep in the word,
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keep praying and then stand back and Marvel at what God is about
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to do. Well, that's it.
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That's the show everybody. I hope you enjoyed this with
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Derek Gilbert, what an excellent episode.
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If you found this episode, just help you.
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Look at things different, and got you on the road to digging
53:34
deeper into God's word. Is you share this with a friend
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God Bless America and good night.