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Olivier Melnick: Disturbing Signs That World History Is Repeating The 1930s & 40s · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Welcome, friends.
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  God bless you.
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  First day, Olivier Melnick in the website is Shalom in Messiah.com, Shalom in Messiah.com.
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  And I want to quote a recent article that he wrote and we're going to talk about that when
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  I bring him in.
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  He says Israel is in a shambles right now.
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  The country is split between those who want to fight until the last Hamas terrorist
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  is eliminated.
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  And those who want BB Netanyahu to resign or go into immediate retirement.
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  He says Israel's are Israelis are tired, scared, and despite all this life must go on in
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  Israel.
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  We're going to talk about that with Olivier Melnick.
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  Brother, good to see you again.
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  Thanks for your time today.
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  A great to be on your show.
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  Thanks.
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  It's been a while.
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  I'm glad to be back.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  So what have been doing?
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  Give us a little update.
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  We're going to talk about some of your articles today.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I tried to tell him top of the news, which of course on in a topic of Israel and
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  times and anti-Semitism, I just have to pick which one every day, but you know, which
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  is it used to be not that many, but not so crazy what's happening.
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  So yeah, I mean, I'm also writing a big update to my anti-Semitism book that's going
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  to probably come out early next year and then traveling, doing conferences and I just
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  got back from Canada and I'm going to Washington State next weekend and, you know, I mean, wherever
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  I have a chance to go, you know, our mission statement at Shalom and Messiah is to expose
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  and fight anti-Semitism, equip and mobilize Christians and lead Jewish people to the Messiah.
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  So it's all intertwined.
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  So I do this as often as I'm invited and also on my website and on Shalom and Messiah
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  on YouTube, I put a lot of videos, interviews and so it keeps me pretty busy and I'm still
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  trying to salvage a trip to Israel.
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  I was going to go from the 4th to the 11th of October to be there on the first anniversary
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  of the tourist act to have some special filming and prayer time and the airline canceled
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  me, but now it's open again, it's a mess.
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  So I'm still hoping I can be in Israel for the memorial of the first year of the attack
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  if I can.
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  With my good friend Tom, Tom Yu is going to be there too.
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  Awesome.
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  Just had him on the show.
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  It's amazing.
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  October 7th is almost here again.
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  I know.
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  Really amazing and I hope people don't forget, but I think a lot of people have forgotten.
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  I mean, just like the Holocaust and just like 9-11, which we just had in America.
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  We will never forget and six months later people are about their business, you know, I think
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  that's just human nature part of it.
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  Before we get into your article, would you like to speak to that because what happened in
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  Israel on October 7th last year was demonic, was horrific, was unprecedented and it's amazing
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  to see how the world has responded and maybe we shouldn't be surprised.
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  Speak to that Olivier.
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  Yeah.
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  So what happened last year was, you know, it was a terrorist attack, 1200 Israeli people
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  were massacred in a blood bath, you know, in the South near the Gaza border, a couple
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  of Kibbutzim and that were attacked and then they took about 240 hostages, raped women,
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  killed children, elderly, Hamas really did what they did.
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  As much as I really always, I'm careful not to draw parallels, it can be compared to
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  some of the Holocaust, what happened during the Holocaust, the treatment of the Jews.
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  And again, I my entire time that I've been teaching on anti-Semitism which goes on almost
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  25 years now, I'm always very, very cautious not to compare anything to the Holocaust, but
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  some people have said already that this was almost like a Holocaust, 2.0 even though the
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  numbers are not there, but the intensity and the brutality can compare to the Holocaust.
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  And what was amazing is that within a week, maybe even less, the entire world completely
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  shifted their focus on Gaza Strip, Palestinians being killed and innocent Palestinians being
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  killed and it's like nobody wanted to talk about the 1200 murdered a week before.
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  You would think that the world would come and say, hey, what happened in Israel was terrible,
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  this has to stop and what the world has done is like, hey, what is happening in Gaza is
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  terrible, this has to stop.
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  We need a ceasefire.
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  Backpedal to a little bit to what happened on October 7th because we had a ceasefire
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  since 2005 in the Gaza Strip, no Jews were occupying the Gaza Strip, they were self-governing,
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  nobody from Israel was bothering them and now it's going to be very difficult to get back
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  to that.
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  I don't think Israel is going to, my guess is for the next 20 or 30 years, Israel is not
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  going to let the Gaza Strip being self-governing.
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  Why would they?
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  Why would they?
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  They just can't be trusted.
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  So it's, and we're coming on on the one year anniversary next month and we still have
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  about 100 doztages, I think like 97, I believe, and it's just not only the world turned
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  its back on Israel, but I think when I'm seeing what I see, when I see what I see on the news
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  and when the articles that I read and I see that it's become almost like, let's show
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  Israel anti-Semitic we really are because we really hate their guts.
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  And you see all this happening on campuses all over the U.S. and in other countries
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  in North America and Canada as well, just got back from Canada recently and they had a
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  really bad, bad two-month at the University of Toronto and so the whole world instead of
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  coming to the rescue of Israel and help Israel because right now there's a lot of help
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  needed.
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  They just turn against Israel and against the Jews and anti-Semitism is out of the box
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  and it's, David, it's not going back in.
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  I tell you, for 25 years now, I've been telling people we have to fight anti-Semitism,
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  we have to fight, fight, fight.
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  Reminds me of somebody else who said that for something as, as I'm saying it, I'm going
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  back.
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  Oh, it's been said before, fight, fight, fight.
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  But we, I tell people now we have to continue to fight but don't be fooled, we're not going
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  to be able to stop it.
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  It's out.
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  It's going to go full blown and we're not even in a tribulation yet.
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  It's prior to the rapture and it's getting that bad.
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  We have to fight because it's the right thing to do but we also have to, my call right
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  now which is why I shifted ministries within the same mission of wanting to see my people
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  come to Messiah Yeshua, my call right now is to equip and mobilize Christians to telling
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  them fight anti-Semitism but also tell your Jewish friends, if you need me, I'm here
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  for you.
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  Well, that's, these are all important points that you just made and equipping believers
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  to be able to respond to the anti-Semitism with truth, with facts, with the biblical
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  worldview.
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  That's so important.
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  Now, I want to go back to you.
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  You mentioned a lot of things that I wanted to talk about and I want to bring up your
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  article on your website because you already mentioned a couple of points and the article
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  friends is over at Shalom in Messiah.com, six signs.
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  We have arrived at a repeat of the 1930s and 40s, six signs we have arrived.
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  And one of the things you were talking about, let me just read this.
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  It says in an eerie precursor to the prophecy of Zechariah 12.3, it already looks like the
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  whole world is turning against the Jews in Israel and globally.
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  And then you go on and say the opposite should be happening.
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  And yet Israel is being painted as the genocidal Jewish state.
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  We need to set the record straight because the media won't.
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  So Livy, let's stop right there.
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  We know the media is biased.
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  We know their worldview, it's anti-Christian, anti-Israel.
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  But what should have happened, even after shortly after October 7, when some of the video
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  was released, that Hamas, some of them, they took video and when some of that was released,
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  it's amazing to me, even what was going on college campuses, they were almost doubling
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  down and justifying saying, well, yeah, that's justified what happens.
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  So that's, there's a spiritual dynamic that's really demonic against the Jews that's
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  behind this, that's driving this, go ahead and speak to that for a moment.
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  Well, I have a definition of anti-Semitism that I've used for probably two decades.
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  And I find tuned it a little bit in the last several years and I emphasize two words
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  at the beginning of my definition.
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  My definition used to be that anti-Semitism is the hatred, the hatred of Israel and the
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  Jewish people characterized by thoughts, words and deeds against them.
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  And then about maybe five years ago, maybe a little more, I started adding those two
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  words.
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  Anti-Semitism is the irrational and demonic hatred of Israel and the Jewish people characterized
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  by thoughts, words and deeds against them.
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  And the reason why it's important, it's so important is because unless we understand
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  that anti-Semitism comes from Satan who wants to destroy the Jews, then we won't be
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  able to understand it and little fight it because you cannot fight something you don't
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  understand.
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  So irrational because it's from the enemy who can make the irrational sound and look rational.
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  And I mean, you get things like buckles my mind, queers for Palestine, I'm sorry David,
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  but those words don't belong in the same sentence because anybody who has, in the homosexual
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  lifestyle, I don't agree with it, but it's a choice, I'm just, you know, that's their
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  choice.
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  I don't agree, I don't think it's biblical, but they need to understand if they were to
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  be having a homosexual lifestyle in Palestine or in the Middle East, they would not make
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  it for an hour.
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  That's right.
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  They would get killed.
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  That's right.
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  So it's, so it's very irrational, it's very irrational, but people don't care, it sounds,
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  it sounds right to them because the enemy is deceiving them, he is the master of lies.
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  And, you know, and you know, I've said this before on your show, I'm sure, but the reason
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  why Satan is doing this is because he understands the Bible probably better than most of us.
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  But he's not omniscient, he doesn't know all because he's a created being, he's the
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  fallen angel.
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  He was created by God, but, but he understands that at the end of the story, Israel,
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  corporately, the Jewish people will call upon the one who they have fierce, according
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  to Zechariah 1210, and they will say, Baruch Abab Hashem, Adonai, blessed is you, comes
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  the name of the Lord, which Yeshua said, Jesus said, surely you will not see me again
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  until you say, blessed is you, comes the name of the Lord.
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  So Jesus told Israel, listen, I came for you, some of you rejected me, not all of you,
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  some of you rejected me, I'm opening my program to all people now, but I will return for Israel.
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  And at the end of the story, Israel will call me and that's when I return.
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  So when Israel calls Jesus, he comes back, that's the second coming, that's not the rapture,
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  that's after the rapture, there's a seven year tribulation between that.
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  And Satan knows when that happens, it's not looking good for him because his career is, is over,
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  and he is pun intended, he's toast, pun intended.
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  So he wants to, he wants to stop it.
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  And so he is a creator of anti-Semitism and, and, and we're seeing right now, this rebirth
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  of all the things that, that took place in the 30s and 40s and David, what is killing me is
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  that my own people don't see it, they, you know, it's one of the six points in my article,
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  the, the Jewish denial. I talk to, I talk to an orthodox rabbi recently in, in my, my hometown
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  here in Texas, I had, I met him for coffee and I said, you know, you know, I lost my father in
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  Auschwitz, anti-Semitism was, was, you know, was an issue then and it's an issue now and it's,
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  is getting as bad and they're going to come after us and he knew that I believe that Jesus is the
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  Messiah and I told him, I said, listen, I know you and I don't agree, a Theologically, we're now
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  on the same page, I get that, but in the eyes of an anti-Semite, you're as Jewish as I am, I'm as
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  Jewish as you are, they want us dead. So we need to work together and we need to be prepared for
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  that. And he said, well, I appreciate your, your, your concern, our people will, we'll take care
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  ourselves. And I'm thinking, yes, as a rabbi, you are the, the spiritual leader of your flock,
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  of your community, of your synagogue, I get that. But you know what, if all of your Jewish people
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  within your community are altogether so that you can protect them, you're still a bunch of Jews
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  at risk. And, and, and so the vast majority of the Jewish community thinks that we'll take care
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  of ourselves or think that maybe, maybe a, it's, it's exaggerated. And, and so they're in denial,
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  not even to mention the fact that most of them still think, I mean, still say that they're going
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  to vote Democrat. This boggles my mind. Head scratcher. Well, we've got to take a pause with Olivia
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  Melnick. By the way, I didn't mention the YouTube page. It's Shalom in Messiah Ministries on YouTube,
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  equipping, mobilizing, reaching out with Olivia Melnick. We'll be right back on World View Matters.
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  and make sure you subscribe to us on rumble. I want to get back to, I'm talking about two
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  different articles with Olivia Melnick. They're both on his website, Shalom in Messiah.com.
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  One of them already mentioned six signs we have arrived at a repeat of the 1930s and 40s.
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  The other article, though, that I want to ask you about Olivia is good luck finding moral
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  equivalence in the Hamas Israel War. And you mentioned earlier, I want to make sure you emphasize
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  this, Hamas broke the ceasefire. People are pushing Israel right now. This should be a ceasefire,
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  but they're ignoring that a ceasefire was in place before October 7 last year. Talk a little
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  bit about that. A lot of people don't, they're not aware of that. Well, yeah, I mean, Hamas had
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  elections, and I believe 2005, and they won the elections, and it took the leadership of the
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  Gaza Strip in southwest Israel. And by 2006, officially, they were in charge of everything in the
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  Gaza Strip. So 2006 to 2023, that's 17 years, basically, between 17 and 18 years, that Hamas
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  was in control of the Gaza Strip. And, you know, and the world knows the world is really not
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  that looking the other way and becoming a bystander, which is, you know, not a good thing. The world
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  knows that Hamas funneled just the majority, if not all of it, the majority of the funds that
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  were sent by various countries to that to help the Palestinian Authority build an infrastructure,
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  and their infrastructure became a structure, an underground structure. They funneled most of
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  that money into building the tunnels. Some of them were used, and are still used today,
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  to go through, to go to Israel underground, and also to do all the fighting that they've been
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  doing, and then to hide some of the hostages that they took on October 7th. So there was a ceasefire,
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  and you know, when I see the young kids on college campuses in the US saying, stop the occupation,
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  you know, let, you know, I'll be talking about Hamas, stop the occupation. There's no occupation
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  in the Gaza Strip. There's not one Jew doing anything, or saying that they should be doing this or
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  that. And by the way, to set the record straight before somebody calls me and say, Olivia, what do you
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  say that they're occupiers? There's no occupation anywhere in Israel. This is Jewish land given by God
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  to Israel. And so there's no occupation, but, but even beyond that, in the Gaza Strip, for the time
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  being, the, the authority was given to Hamas, and they're doing whatever they want, but what they're
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  want is to build an infrastructure that will help them do another October 7th. That's what they do.
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  Yep. What could go wrong? Give them what they want. Keep compromising. I mean, yeah, this is,
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  there's a spiritual dynamic behind the irrationality too, about some of these decisions and some of
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  the propaganda. Let's talk, let's, you know, since we're running out of time, Olivia, let's go
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  back to the article on the signs that we've arrived, unfortunately, at a repeat of the 30s and 40s.
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  And I just want to get the bullet points. And you've already talked a little bit about the Jewish
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  denial, but a number one is boycott number two, programs number three, academic pressure number four
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  killing Jews, Jewish denial is number five. And then the world's in difference. That's the one
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  where we can open up our eyes a little bit and say, are we really, are we there again at the
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  world's in difference? Just talk to any one of those points, please, if you'd like.
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  Uh, yeah, the, the, the world's in difference is actually part of, uh, I, I spent on that
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  little bit in, uh, one of my books called the normalization of anti-semitism when the
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  longest hatred becomes the new normal, which is it's part of where we are right now. And I
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  divide this into 10, 10 points. The world's in difference right now is, uh, uh, it's so scary.
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  They just don't pay attention to what's happening. They take the side of, of, of, of the enemy.
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  I mean, this new anti-semitism as, as, as seen a, a, a role reversal where Israel was the victim,
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  the Jewish people were the victim. And then, uh, the, uh, you know, in, in Europe, the Nazis were
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  the perpetrators. Well, in the last 50, 60 years, there's been a role reversal that's slowly built
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  the, uh, the Israelis and the Jews into the perpetrators and the Palestinians into the victims.
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  And the world is completely silent about the injustices, uh, perpetrator against Israel.
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  And they promote the Palestinian, uh, murders and the Palestinian acts, uh, thinking that it's
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  the right thing to do. It's, you know, it's part of social justice and especially the youth.
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  That's really scary. But, uh, uh, people, uh, you know, I, I still talk to people all the time.
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  Uh, I meet people all the time, you know, I tell them what I do. And I said, uh, uh, and I,
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  I wear this little yellow ribbon that I bought in Tel Aviv and June when I was there at
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  a hostage square and, and they said, what's the, because people know what a yellow ribbon is.
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  It's usually as to something to do with war and, and they go like, what's the yellow ribbon for?
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  I said, well, that's for October 7th. And they look at me and they go, yeah, in what's that?
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  And I'm going, oh, oh, all the time, all the time. And I'm not talking about young people.
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  And I'm going like, well, you know what happened October 7th in Israel. And they kind of nod
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  going like, oh, yeah, you know, the Middle East Israel, but they don't know. They don't know
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  because they don't care. It's not, it's not affecting them. Now, if they have a Jewish neighbor,
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  a Jewish family member, uh, that might be a little different. But the vast majority of people,
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  let's face it, there's 15 million Jews in the world of what? Seven and a half billion. So, you
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  know, uh, it's not going to affect the vast majority of people. They don't care. They're,
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  they're completely, uh, they're busy with something else. And even within, within Christianity,
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  in some churches, uh, I've seen people going like, yeah, I know something happened on, on, on,
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  on October 7th. And, and the immediate kind of a knee jerk reaction that I get from even a
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  lot of Christian is that, yeah, but what about the Palestinians? It's like, people cannot,
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  they, they, they, if they, and it's become more of the norm, if people, even within
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  evangelicals, if they speak of Israel, they absolutely cannot speak of Israel without saying,
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  yes, but what about the Palestinian? They feel like they have to say that, otherwise they're not
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  being honest. And I'm not saying we should ignore the Palestinians. David, Palestinians,
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  in Jews need one thing. It's Jesus, the son of God, the Messiah of Israel, without him,
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  they're lost, just like you and I were lost. Okay. But, but, but from a geopolitical standpoint,
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  they're not paying attention. And they're looking in the, in the wrong places for social justice.
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  So you've got that, uh, and that leads to, uh, things that, that took place in, in, uh,
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  LA and in Brooklyn, uh, pogroms, uh, organized riots. And the police in LA, there was a pogrom
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  recently. There was a riot on the streets in front of a synagogue. And the police was asked
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  to stand down. Wow. Why? Stand down. So if this is what Jewish people can expect of their local
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  police, no wonder Jews are making alia right now in, in, in, in droves, uh, the, the irony, David,
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  is think about it everywhere in the world, including my own family out of France right now,
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  doing their papers to make alia, my sisters, my only, uh, surviving member of my family and my
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  three nephews and nieces were all, uh, modern orthodox. They're, they're, they're moving to
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  Israel within the next couple of years, if not sooner. And think about this for a second.
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  Nowhere in the world is a Jews safe right now, except in Israel. And yet, Israel is in a full
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  blown war. What does that tell you? Wow. Now that, that's perspective when you, when you look at
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  it that way. Um, so we're running out of time. And I just did want to talk to you briefly about
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  some of the lies, uh, in the debate, recent debate with President Trump and Kamala Harris,
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  VP Kamala Harris. And she said she was pro Israel or I, I just paraphrase. I don't remember how
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  she worded it, but she supports Israel. And if you look at the policies of the Biden administration,
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  it's a head scratcher. And of course, the ABC Democrat moderators didn't challenge her on any of
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  those points. But I want to just get your thoughts on that in this current administration. And
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  maybe, uh, that statement in the debate. Well, the, uh, her statement that she's pro Israel was, was
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  just, uh, it was just another series of words that she wanted to just throw at people to make
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  it sound like she was pro Israel, but she's not pro Israel. Biden administration is not pro Israel.
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  I mean, recently, uh, uh, Netanyahu visited the states and she was not even available to meet
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  with them. What kind of a slap in the face is that? Uh, my biggest concern is that, uh,
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  with them, the multi, uh, France, that Israel is, is, uh, facing right now with, uh, you know,
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  the, uh, uh, the Selon Gaza and then North in Lebanon and Syria and Iran and, uh, Judea
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  Samaria, which is the West Bank. Some people call it that, uh, you know, Israel is, is, is like
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  fighting multiple fronts and then they might be attacked not so much to invade them, but to
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  deplete their iron dome arsenal. And then when it's depleted and they try to get more America and
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  some parts of the, uh, of Europe will say, well, not so quick. If you do, uh, if you don't do a
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  ceasefire, uh, we're not going to send you anything and then the real attack and invasion will come
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  because they can't defend themselves. So that's a fear. That's a real concern, but that this
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  current administration is not in favor, uh, of Israel. They're just lying. Are people that ignorant
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  that, or they're, they will believe the talking points, points and not do any of the research for
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  themselves? Um, are they that ignorant, buying the, even the propaganda that Israel,
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  their occupiers, right? They are occupying the land. People won't go and look at the Bible or
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  world history, uh, or they won't acknowledge the truth that they just believe. Oh, yeah, that
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  sounds good. So there there's this mob mentality. I think that takes place. Don't you think?
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  Absolutely. And David, at the end of the day, we shouldn't be surprised. This is a, this is an
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  ongoing, increasingly, exponentially increasing, an ongoing setting up of Zechariah 12-3.
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  Yeah. In this day, the Lord says that all the whole world will go against Jerusalem. We are
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  seeing right now people that, uh, that that are going after Israel and the Jews, uh, one group
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  after the other. And even some, we can talk about that another show. Maybe a lot of the conservatives
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  are not turning their back on Israel, which you never thought that would happen. No headscratcher.
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  Well, we understand. It's all, it's prophetic. Olivia Melnik Shalom in Messiah.com. Thank you
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  for the important work that you do. And Lord willing, we'll talk again soon. God bless your brother.
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  Thank you. Thank you, David Shalom. All right. Shalom. Friends, uh, just go to the website,
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  make sure you check out his YouTube channel as well. God bless you. And as always, keep speaking
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  the truth about things that matter.