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Shy Blossom on Songwriting, Band Dynamics, and Navigating the Indie Music Scene · The Scene Projects

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  Welcome into another exciting episode of the scene.
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  I'm your host, Bubba Starts, and with me today are indie recording artist, Shy Blossom.
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  Welcome to the show, ladies.
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  Hello.
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  Thank you for having us.
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  It's an absolute pleasure.
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  I was just scouting out your, website preshow, and you gals stay plenty busy.
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  But before we get into all the exciting stuff that you are up to now, I just wanna kinda give
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  you the floor.
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  Let us give you a little bit of our, of your back story rather, and, we'll kinda pick it up
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  from there.
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  Hi.
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  I'll start, I guess.
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  My name is Adriana.
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  I'm the singer, and I play acoustic as well.
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  I'm the front person.
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  This band pretty much started because me, I started recording the album by myself, at
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  Farmedelica Sound with Howard Merlin, and, he was actually the one that helped me get like,
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  create a band.
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  And, obviously, the members have changed to now.
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  But, we're, like, an indie alternative band.
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  Some it's hard for us to say what genre we are because some stuff sounds like pop.
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  There's, like, some focus acts aspects and, like, rock influences and everything.
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  Very different.
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  Yeah.
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  But, yeah, it pretty much started with me.
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  He, like, helped to get all the band members.
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  And now we have Abel Ramirez on electric guitar, Julie on the drums, and we're actually
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  looking for a bassist right now.
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  So
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  So if there's any bass players out there that that wanna join a really awesome indie band
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  down in Florida, Peace.
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  You know, we're putting out the APB right now.
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  You gotta be cool, though.
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  That's, like, the one one caveat.
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  Awesome.
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  Well, how fun, and shout out to Howard for helping you put this all together and and
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  seeing the talent that you have.
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  I mean, you're already, you're very young, but you have a prolific songwriting career already.
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  Just kinda looking at all the different songs that were out and videos that you've been
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  making, and, I think it's so important to kinda harness that early.
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  Because as you get older, I'll be 40 in May, So I I don't write as much as I used to.
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  It's not that I'm any less inspired, but life gets in the way.
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  Right?
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  I have kids.
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  I don't have as much time to sit there and write.
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  But I remember being 20 and just like it was like a new song a day sometimes.
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  Right?
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  And you hit those those points and being able to get them out and then having the wherewithal
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  to to not just create it, but then to do it.
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  You know?
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  I I made a to record it.
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  Right?
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  I I grew up and and we were still, like, using recording studios, and the home recording thing
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  wasn't there was still a barrier there that was hard to get through.
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  Yeah.
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  And even, you know, for studios, they were much more expensive than you can get now.
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  And so I have songs that I recorded last year.
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  They've been kicking around in my head for, like, fifteen, twenty years.
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  Right?
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  That have literally been able to be performed live, and I don't you know, only when I was
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  doing solo acoustic shows.
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  So to to have the ability to write, have a really good studio that sounds like it's close
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  to home for you and that you work really well with, to not just have that, but a producer in
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  Howard to really help you fledge all of these out, putting bandmates.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, that's really powerful, and I think that's how you get the best material, out there
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  in the world.
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  So Definitely.
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  Talk a little bit about the studio while we're on the topic and just that process.
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  How long have you been working together with Howard and, would you call it Pharmadelica?
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  Yes.
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  Pharmadelica sound.
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  It's in Vocilia.
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  Vocilia.
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  Yeah.
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  I think I started recording the album there in, like, the 2023.
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  Yeah.
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  It was before I Yeah.
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  Actually, the 2023.
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  It took a while to record the whole album.
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  And we re we released it in, like, 2024, but he that whole first album, he pretty much was
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  helping create all the songs, like, put the bass on it and guitar and everything.
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  And then slowly, the band members were coming in.
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  So Abel, like, replaced the electric guitar and some of the songs and the basis that we had at
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  the time.
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  We redid all the bass lines on all the recordings.
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  But, we also did our EP with him, but we did, like, half with him and half with, another kid
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  named Jacob Engelking.
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  He helped to mix it and master it.
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  And master it.
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  Yeah.
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  And, we actually we've cycled through a lot of Recording studios.
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  We also recorded one song with a recording studio in Lakeland.
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  Think It's called Soundhouse Studios.
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  That one was pretty cool
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  to experience.
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  That was actually released.
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  It's called nothing to
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  nothing to say.
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  So And right now, we just recorded a a live recording of one of our unreleased songs called
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  Eternity at a place called Burnt Orange.
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  Burnt Orange Studio?
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  Yeah.
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  That's in service, but I believe I'm actually going back to Howard's for my solo music in a
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  little bit.
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  So I'm excited.
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  Yeah.
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  It sounds like we got a pretty
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  cool scene
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  down there.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, you got a pretty cool scene down there.
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  Mean, there's, like, two recording studios in all of South Dakota.
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  Right?
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  Like, there may be there may be a few more than that, but, you know, because we have, you know,
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  not a great I mean, there's only, like, 800,000 people total in South Dakota.
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  So population wise, we're small.
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  Like, geographically, we're massive.
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  It's over a million square miles.
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  Right?
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  So sparsely populated.
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  It's hard to find places to go to, and maybe somebody does have a home studio, but it's not
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  necessarily a, you know, I don't wanna say corporate, but it's not necessarily a business.
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  Right?
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  Some are reason we don't record.
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  I'm very fortunate.
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  You know, my friend Tom Freer has a studio.
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  He is, you know, trained, makes the masters, but he also plays in a rock band called Kenny
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  Fiddler and the Cowboy Killers, and he's on the road freaking, you know, nine months a year.
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  Right?
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  So you're like, my time frame unlimited.
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  It took me a year to get five songs done.
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  But same same kinda like Howard where he was able to you know, he could play all the
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  instruments, but it's like, hey.
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  Can we get somebody to do this?
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  And we can get fill this in.
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  And it's been a really fun process.
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  And me, I I've had very little studio time over my year.
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  Most of my career, I was spent playing live and playing out in bars and grills and a lot of the
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  same kind of venues I'm sure that you're playing just kind of browsing your schedule.
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  But that's where I really cut my teeth.
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  So when we came in with the songs, they were pretty fully fledged where it was like, hey,
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  guys.
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  This is the song.
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  Just you know, if you can rehearse it before you come in we're not wasting time in the
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  studio because all of the musicians that I used were not in the same geographical area either.
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  So I know how hard that can be and talk about cycling through PO, but the starts and ends is
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  the name of my group.
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  Starts obviously being my last name.
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  And so it's just been like a revolving door of members for the last twenty years.
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  So it was like they're in and out, but it's just the nature of playing in an area where
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  most people are, like, weekend warriors.
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  They're not necessarily wanting to, like, go on the road.
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  So when I'll have
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  to Definitely.
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  Book shows in Minneapolis or something, which is five hours away, or I'm playing on both
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  sides of the state, you know, it's hard to find people that, like, want to do that.
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  People have lives and families and their own dreams and aspirations.
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  So I admire what, you know, you guys are kinda building together, you gals, is, you know,
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  like, this is our band.
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  Right?
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  And you may have your solo career and to do some things, but this is this is our thing.
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  And I've never really had that in my career.
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  It's always been like, this is this is just how I release music.
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  Starts and ends is Bubba starts and his original songs, and that's just kinda how it
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  is.
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  So I'm always envious of bands that kinda form in a more organic way rather than being, like,
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  the lead singer and here's all my songs and pretty much just running with hired guns.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  That's in the beginning, that's kinda how it was because I was writing most of the songs and
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  then just sending like, the first album, Howard was the one who was helping record all that.
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  But the EP, I brought my originals to the band, and we actually got to, like, write it together
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  and bring it into the studio.
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  So Talk about the difference in between those those two experiences where, you know, the the
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  first one is kinda just you and Howard in the studio working on the songs and then maybe
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  hiring in or bringing in other players to play the parts as opposed to bringing in these ideas
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  for songs and going, hey.
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  What do we think of these and kinda trying them out over the time of rehearsal and things
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  changing?
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  Talk about that a little bit.
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  Well, with the first album, it was, like, the first time I've ever, like, recorded really
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  anything for, like, a full fledged album.
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  And I came in there not really prepared with how I wanted the songs to, like, end up
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  sounding.
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  And that was definitely a whole journey, like because we had to go through every single song
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  and, like, decide, oh, what do we want this to sound like?
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  What do we want that one to sound like?
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  So it's I me now, I wish that I had, like, prepared my songs better and figured out how I
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  actually wanted them to sound to just have them more more more my style and stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  But the EP, it was definitely a lot better because we got to work together and figure out
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  a sound that we that all of us liked and that, like And
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  our songs together well.
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  Constantly evolving as well.
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  Like, from the first album compared to the single we just released, like, the difference
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  is It's very It's very different.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, I mean, you're evolving as young human beings.
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  Like, you know, like Yeah.
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  You know, I don't you you're obviously look very young.
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  You know, I don't you don't have to, you know, shout yourself out here and put it out there,
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  but, you know, like, times are gonna change you.
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  You know?
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  And music is going to change and evolve, and it's such a cool experience for someone who's
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  probably more than twice your age to look at you and be like, yeah.
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  I I remember those feelings.
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  Right?
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  Like, it was so Definitely.
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  Being full of that.
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  So, yeah, don't don't beat yourself up too much about not knowing what you would never be able
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  to know.
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  Even though I know that your dad has played music and you probably grew up around music and
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  band rehearsals and just kind of being surrounded by that most of your life.
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  But, yeah, you never know until you get into that.
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  And I don't think that a lot of those things you can learn until you're in the studio and to
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  let things evolve.
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  And you can always go I mean, they're your songs.
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  You can always go back and record them later, you know, as the band is, you know, forming
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  together and you have more of those, players.
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  Just because they're recorded once doesn't mean you can't go back and, like, hey.
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  These songs changed.
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  Right?
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  Even though that they were formed and they were this thing, now that we've been playing them
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  for two or three years as a group, like, these are different now, and maybe they deserve that
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  down the road.
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  Don't ever be afraid of that, especially when you're independent.
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  Like, there's not a record label that's, like, telling you what to do.
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  They're your songs.
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  Whatever you wanna do.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  The the way we play those songs from the first album is, like, honestly, vast difference.
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  I think it
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  sound better a lot.
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  It sounds way better.
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  Yeah.
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  I see a rerecording on the horizon already for some of these things and new songs and Yeah.
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  Giving some having new music and recordings.
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  And right now I mean, now in the, you know, the age of singles and the way that the record
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  industry itself wants us to release music, that's kinda why I started the podcast and
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  stopped.
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  Like, I couldn't keep up.
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  I was like, you want a single every week or something?
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  Like, what are you talking about?
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  You know, 12 songs a year.
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  Like, it took me twenty five years to write 25 songs, and now you want 10 and a couple.
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  You're like, what are we talking about?
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  But, honestly, you as long as you can grow your own fan base, you can kinda do whatever you
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  want.
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  Your cadence can be your own cadence.
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  And and there's not necessarily like, that's why I get a little aggravated with the industry
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  because they're you know, they want it by Spotify.
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  So, well, of course, Spotify wants new music coming out from a 100,000 artists every single
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  week.
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  You know, we don't have to abide by their rules and their plans.
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  We can form our own thing.
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  And that's really what the community of the scene projects has become.
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  That's why it's on my logo and it's on everything that I do because it's about
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  building like, we don't have much of a scene out here.
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  There's because everyone's so spread out, it's really hard to have that, like, an open mic
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  that everyone goes to or a certain festival that everyone lands at every single year.
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  We have a few of those things, but it's, like, once a year.
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  It's not a consistent thing.
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  Mhmm.
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  I heard it described as a third space by someone recently where it's not like it's not
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  home and it's not work, but it it it kinda have it has elements of home it.
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  Right?
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  The the network spaces.
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  Yeah.
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  And it seems like Florida's got a lot of that going on, and people are meeting.
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  And it seems much bigger than it is.
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  There's a lot of water in swampland.
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  So, like, the people are all congregated in spaces.
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  Right?
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  Yeah.
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  We're actually lucky with, like, how good the music scene is here.
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  It's crazy.
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  Like, you can go to Fort Myers and meet a whole bunch of bands and musicians there.
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  Tampa, their music scene is amazing.
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  Oh, you've got a Gainesville.
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  West Palm Beach.
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  Like Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, college towns like Gainesville.
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  Like, there's so many bands there and and students and people who, like, wanna listen to
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  that music.
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  They go out to shows at night to see bands play.
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  Yeah.
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  Well and, yeah, you can play outdoors, you know, eleven months out of the year.
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  Probably got a little cold for you all, last week.
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  But, South Dakota, we have, like, a three month gap where we're like, alright.
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  From, like, May to September, maybe we can get out and play music.
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  And even when you do that, it's a 100 degrees all summer.
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  Right?
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  And then it's,
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  you know, below zero most of the winter.
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  And, yeah, it's hard living up here.
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  It's also why I'm very, very adamant now about, like, I think I wanna take this podcast on the
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  road.
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  I might not be a big enough band with my 12 monthly listeners on Spotify, to book a tour on
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  my own, but the podcast has built up enough, cachet, you know, being the content creator of
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  the year and just being networks with all these other bands.
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  Oh, thank you.
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  I yeah.
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  The recognition is nice.
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  I'm a member of the Midwest Country Music Organization, which seeing that community kind
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  of inspired me to build more of my own.
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  Right?
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  So now we have the Midwest Original Music Organization, the Momos, which is open to
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  really anyone in the world.
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  It's just happen to be happen to where I'd be, and Momo is just funny.
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  Right?
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  Like, it's Great stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  You talked about, like, having a a hard time putting your finger.
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  I call what I do modern gypsy rock.
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  And I used to call it rockabilly regga funk, and that just got to be too much of a mouthful,
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  really.
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  So I understand that.
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  Does the band now having some more, you know, like, members of the band, how has that changed
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  you as the songwriter?
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  Oh, I mean, I still sometimes write music in my room, like, the whole song and then bring it to
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  the band still because I just get in a role and, like, write a whole song in, like,
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  fifteen minutes sometimes.
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  It's mostly her that comes up Yeah.
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  Like, songs, and then we kinda, like, together as the band, like, train But work on it.
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  There's act there's we're actually getting to write songs from the start together.
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  Yeah.
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  And that's actually a really cool experience because you can see, like, how we all work
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  together to create a song from the bottom.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Well and then I'm kind of interested in do you now hear parts that you're like, oh, her, you
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  know, her on the drum.
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  Like, she would have such a cool drum part in this piece now.
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  And, you know, oh, this guitar player would, you know, would match this flow or, you know, I
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  guess with me, it's like in your head now, does the band kinda live in space in your head as
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  you're writing the songs?
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  Definitely.
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  Because while I'm writing, I'll, like, be hearing a bell in my head writing his guitar
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  line or, like, Julie doing, like, fills in certain parts.
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  Yes.
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  And when we're, like, together You should play I just tell Julie to play a part using, like,
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  sounds with my mouth.
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  I don't know any drum lingo.
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  So He's like, well, apparently, try to
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  go off.
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  Like that.
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  You know?
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  Oh, dunk it up.
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  Done.
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  Done.
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  Play this spell just like this.
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  Alright.
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  Gotcha.
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  So, Julie, I I'm interested in kind of your journey into the band.
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  You know, did you grow up playing music and, like, playing drums in, like, concert or
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  marching band or anything like that, or were you, like, behind a kid at an early age?
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  I'm just I'm interested in your backstory a little bit.
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  I've actually play I didn't start on drums originally, in kindergarten.
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  I actually started on piano and played for about five years, and then I kinda got bored of
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  that.
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  So then I went to guitar for, like, a year, and then I got bored of it.
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  Then I think I went to a couple other instruments.
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  And then in 2020, which we were all locked in our houses, so I was kinda interested.
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  I was like, maybe I'll give drums a try.
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  So I actually did online lessons, and I got an electric drum kit.
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  So I actually started playing around with that.
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  And then there's a program in Fort Myers or I think across the country, actually.
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  It's everywhere.
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  But it's called School of Rock, and it's like a program where kids get together and play
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  instruments, and they can actually play on stage.
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  And they have a house band that I think they play, like, four or five gigs, like, per month,
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  like, all across, like, Florida or wherever you're based out of from.
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  So I actually played with them for around a couple years on the drums, and that's actually
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  how I auditioned for their band for this band, I should say.
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  But it's really good.
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  I think being in that house band was really good for, like, networking and being able to
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  kinda, like, establish yourself in, like, Fort Myers and Punta Gorda, essentially.
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  So I think that was a really good way for, you know, meeting new people and that kind of
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  stuff.
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  So
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  Yeah.
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  What a great basis to have.
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  Yeah.
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  What a great basis for you to have.
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  I people don't realize how rhythmic and percussive the piano is, but it gives you an
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  ear.
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  And I think that you hear a band differently when you have kind of a basis of all the other
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  instruments going on.
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  That you kinda know where a guitar or a piano fits into a band so you don't overplay.
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  I think it's very easy for a lot of drummers to just, like, beat the shit out of everything and
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  and to be loud and fast and to do that.
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  I feel like you would probably come from a different, angle, Especially playing in, like,
• 19:36
  an indie rock band like you are, when you have a drummer that maybe comes from a different
• 19:42
  maybe a little bit more rhythmic space or a more melodic space, if you will, that it really
• 19:48
  sets you apart from a different from different bands even if they're in that same kinda indie
• 19:54
  rock lane.
• 19:57
  Yeah.
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  I when I was in house band, we used to do a lot of because it's mostly, like, rock stuff.
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  So I'd be playing stuff like rage against the machine and iron maiden and, like, bunch of,
• 20:08
  like, hard rock stuff, which I love listening to that anyway.
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  So kind of the transition to more, like, laid back indie alternative stuff was it was kind of
• 20:18
  funny to me.
• 20:19
  But, like, the first song I heard from them when I was auditioning, I was like, wow.
• 20:24
  This is actually, like, really good.
• 20:25
  So We actually the way she auditioned for us, they the Fort Myers School of Rock, they do,
• 20:34
  like, a it's called, like, Rock the Stage where they have musicians come in and It's like a
• 20:38
  competition.
• 20:39
  Yeah.
• 20:40
  Yeah.
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  And I won the second one that they ever did, and then I went on their third their third one.
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  They had me play, like, before the competition.
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  And on the semifinals, I someone we know saw Julie playing in the house band, and she had
• 20:59
  originally auditioned for them.
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  And our guitarist was actually at that audition.
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  He's like, you should audition for a shot of awesome.
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  And it stole me.
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  He walked right
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  into that.
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  She walked she walked right into the audition.
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  Like, she did not look nervous at all, and she was just, like, straight faced.
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  I was so good.
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  We were, like, all surprised because we went through, like, three drummer auditions.
• 21:23
  We were like, this girl just, like, blew everybody out of the park.
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  Like, you were awesome.
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  I'm blushing.
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  That's hard to make a drummer do.
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  They're usually so full of themselves.
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  I promise I'm not.
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  And she's grown so much
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  in this band also.
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  Like, thank you.
• 21:43
  Well, I think that was most exciting to me kinda seeing and hearing about your band was
• 21:48
  because we talk to people along all walks of life.
• 21:50
  I I had a a gentleman on with me recently, Canude, who's been in the scene since the mid
• 21:55
  nineties and playing in alternative bands and doing things around there.
• 22:00
  And he's just as excited about joining our national songwriter showcase tour that we're
• 22:04
  doing.
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  And we may dip
• 22:05
  in the Florida.
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  And if we do, I definitely wanna see if we can connect and get you on
• 22:10
  because we're in there.
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  Definitely.
• 22:11
  Think
• 22:11
  you have, like, one open date in March that we might be able to get you away from.
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  Or maybe we just come to the venue that you're at, and we just kinda tag along with what you
• 22:19
  got going on.
• 22:20
  But I I think it's so like, and this comes from one of the first conversations that I had on my
• 22:27
  podcast that was kind of outside of my friend group was Bill Payne.
• 22:32
  Bill Payne founded the band Little Feet, right, in the sixties, and he played in the studios
• 22:37
  with everybody.
• 22:38
  One of the pieces of our conversation that struck me is like, yeah.
• 22:40
  Apparently, I was on a Barbra Streisand record.
• 22:42
  know?
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  And he's like, I don't even remember that day in the studio.
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  And it's like, that's bananas.
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  Right?
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  Like but played with everybody.
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  Jackson Brown and Bob Seger and just, like, all these bands that he played with and was
• 22:53
  arousing.
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  And and he treated me like he's like, no.
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  You're one of us.
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  You know?
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  And, actually, he ended up getting my mom and my two brothers tickets, on my mom's birthday
• 23:05
  up at Red Rocks.
• 23:06
  They were playing with the Avett brothers.
• 23:07
  Awesome.
• 23:08
  And he got them into the show, personally.
• 23:11
  They actually sat next to his wife and, watched the show from the VIP seat.
• 23:16
  So that was a pretty cool experience, for me.
• 23:19
  I'm sure.
• 23:19
  Yeah.
• 23:19
  I made it.
• 23:20
  And then that moment, was like, I got to be the good son for once in my life.
• 23:24
  Like, this podcast can do nothing else, and it will have been a massive win.
• 23:28
  And since then, we've gotten to do a lot more really cool things.
• 23:32
  And one of them being getting to spend some time with you two today and learning about Shy
• 23:36
  Blossom and being on the the leading edge of knowing these bands before they make it.
• 23:41
  Right?
• 23:42
  And and I think the days of, like, you know, bands being that super stardom that's very even
• 23:48
  more few and far between than it's ever been, but we're all gonna be working alongside each
• 23:53
  other and seeing each other and catching on the road and, you know, when we're in Florida
• 23:57
  getting to do gigs together or when you're coming to South Dakota to play the Sturgis
• 24:01
  Motorcycle Rally or Yes.
• 24:03
  You know, something of those things in the future that we're gonna get to hook up.
• 24:06
  And I think that to me is that's really what the scene projects are about and and the Momo
• 24:11
  group and everything that I've been building, this community around myself.
• 24:14
  Because it's the musical family that I just didn't have that I wasn't seeking out by, like,
• 24:20
  oh, I gotta move to Nashville.
• 24:21
  Right?
• 24:22
  Because I watched so many people make that move, get absolutely crushed by the industry
• 24:27
  and the rent being astronomical and, like, everyone else being so much more talented.
• 24:32
  I feel like such a hack.
• 24:33
  I went to Nashville for my first time back in November and just walking down Broadway, and
• 24:37
  I'm like, oh, I know, like, compared to some of these people that are just playing, you know, a
• 24:42
  1PM gig, I don't even know how to play the guitar.
• 24:45
  Right?
• 24:45
  So I'm gonna keep doing this podcast thing and getting to connect with bands like Shy Blossom
• 24:51
  and super talented people all over the country, and I look forward to it.
• 24:56
  Go ahead and plug the website and everywhere where people can find you and the new music
• 24:59
  and, yeah, where people can keep up with you and your very, very busy touring schedule.
• 25:06
  We have a website called shyblossomofficial.official.com, I think.
• 25:13
  Hopefully.
• 25:14
  And on all of our social media, like Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, it should be shy blossom
• 25:20
  underscore official.
• 25:21
  We the YouTube.
• 25:23
  Oh, yeah.
• 25:23
  We're on YouTube also on just Shy Blossom, and then you can find us on all streaming platforms
• 25:28
  under Shy Blossom.
• 25:29
  Awesome.
• 25:30
  Well, yeah, I'm looking forward to digging into the discography and checking out all the music.
• 25:35
  And congratulations to you on your budding music careers, and just keep on rocking.
• 25:41
  You're gonna do great.
• 25:42
  Thanks for spending some time with me.
• 25:45
  Yeah.
• 25:46
  Thanks for spending some time with me, and thanks for being part of the scene.
• 25:50
  Thank you so much having us.
• 25:52
  Yeah.
• 25:52
  Thank you so much for having us.
• 25:53
  This is really cool.