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Mary Rodwell | Pseudo Alien Abductions? · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: What was the case that really made you sit back
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  Speaker 1: and say, huh, there's really something to this. This might
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  Speaker 1: indeed have something to do with extraterrestrial and there might
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  Speaker 1: be more that's going on here than meets the eye.
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  Speaker 1: Oh right.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the very first case that I had
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  Speaker 2: was so convincing. And the gentleman that I got, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's become a good friend now, But he was very
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  Speaker 2: middle aged man, very articulate, had heard that I was
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  Speaker 2: open minded, and basically he came to see me because
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  Speaker 2: he didn't know where else to go. He said, look,
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  Speaker 2: there's no support groups for this, for this, they just
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  Speaker 2: think you're crazy. He woke up with marks on his body,
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  Speaker 2: shaved areas. His partner was having experiences. The children were
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  Speaker 2: people wouldn't come to the house, where relatives wouldn't come
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  Speaker 2: to the house because they thought it was demons. So
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  Speaker 2: you've not got one person there, got a whole family involved,
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  Speaker 2: and that immediately changes the way that you would look
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  Speaker 2: at it anyway. So for me, it was primarily my
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  Speaker 2: very first case, although I had done a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of reading prior to that. Fortunately i'd come across Dr
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  Speaker 2: John Max's book. You know that the former Arvard professor
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  Speaker 2: of psychiatry who'd written the book Abduction Human Encounters with Aliens,
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  Speaker 2: and he'd come from being a skeptic, doing all the
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  Speaker 2: psychological testing and really in the end absolutely believed those
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  Speaker 2: that he you know, he'd researched. And so you've got
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  Speaker 2: someone pretty credible saying I believe this is real. Who
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  Speaker 2: started that, you know, that peer this center to explore
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  Speaker 2: this professionally. And also I read Whitney Streepers book Communion,
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  Speaker 2: which you know, is classic, the first major one to
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  Speaker 2: really stand out for me. So I got that in
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  Speaker 2: the background, but actually meeting someone, I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: very rare. Though that was probably my biggest mistake thinking
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  Speaker 2: it was rare, because of course now I know it
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  Speaker 2: isn't and it's everywhere. But at the time, more than anything,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't ever feel I could disbelieve Ellis because he
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  Speaker 2: was just so down convincing, and so was his family.
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  Speaker 2: So really, right from the word go, it was going
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  Speaker 2: to be possible, although I needed to find out more
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  Speaker 2: and more, and of course, over the years, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it became absolutely obvious that something major was going on
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  Speaker 2: on this planet and the governments were not letting you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, This is really interesting to me because it seems
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  Speaker 1: like the abduction phenomenon in the contact experiences is isn't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily physical contact, it's more of it's more done in
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  Speaker 1: that astral state or the dream state. Is that something
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  Speaker 1: that you have found to or I guess my question
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  Speaker 1: is is have you spoken with anyone or worked with
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  Speaker 1: any of the three thousand people that you've worked with,
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  Speaker 1: have they ever experienced an actual physical entity in their home?
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  Speaker 1: Or is this done on a spiritual and consciousness level
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  Speaker 1: in the dream state or in the astraal state.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good question, and it's both what we discovered
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  Speaker 2: with the doctor Edger Mitchell Free Foundation. I'm a co
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  Speaker 2: founder of that. We did the surveys with four two
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  Speaker 2: hundred people globally conscious, recal six hundred questions, and one
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  Speaker 2: of the fascinating facts that came out from that was
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  Speaker 2: seventy five percent of their encounters were out of body,
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  Speaker 2: but you've still got twenty five percent that were physical.
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  Speaker 2: So you know that in itself, I think is pretty
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  Speaker 2: pretty compelling. And people will have both. Sometimes they'll wake
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  Speaker 2: up with marks on their body, for example, the pajamas
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  Speaker 2: under the bed or in the cupboard, or different pajamas on,
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  Speaker 2: or I'll find themselves outside with the doors locked and
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  Speaker 2: this kind of thing, which makes it absolutely physical. And
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  Speaker 2: there's many cases of that, but there's also many that
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  Speaker 2: in my survey, you know that I send out in
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  Speaker 2: the dream state, they'll say, oh, I had a dream
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  Speaker 2: where I was on a UFO. Never knew whether it
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  Speaker 2: was real or not. And the question I asked them
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  Speaker 2: is when was that dream? And they may say five
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  Speaker 2: years ago, and I'm saying, and you still remember it,
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  Speaker 2: I can pretty well tell you that that was the reality.
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  Speaker 2: So absolutely both states, and sometimes what I've found on
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  Speaker 2: board craft, if they're working on the physical body, they'll
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  Speaker 2: move the consciousness somewhere else and actually work on that,
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  Speaker 2: maybe the brain. It's the brain itself, and then the
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  Speaker 2: consciousness will be, if you like, reattached to its physical
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  Speaker 2: body or put back into its physical body.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really it's really interesting because you know, I've
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  Speaker 1: been studying in this a little bit, and I personally
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  Speaker 1: think that a lot of the phenomenon is is done
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  Speaker 1: by our military and clandestine organizations and the and the government.
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  Speaker 1: So what what what in your research has led you
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  Speaker 1: to believe that these are actual extraterrestrial encounters. What I
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  Speaker 1: know this is a broad question, but uh what what
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  Speaker 1: is it that they want with humans? Is it an upgrading?
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  Speaker 1: Are they trying to change us? So? Are they trying
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  Speaker 1: to change our consciousness to develop us? More? Like why
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  Speaker 1: the experimentation and the and the taking of our DNA
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  Speaker 1: and some cases, uh a semen from men and eggs
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  Speaker 1: from women, hair follicles and all this stuff. What is
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  Speaker 1: the reason behind that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple of questions in that, really, so
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  Speaker 2: let's look at the pseudo abductions for a start. My lab,
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  Speaker 2: which the military or sections of the military that are
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  Speaker 2: abducting people, doing pseudo abductions, making them think it's extraterrestrial
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  Speaker 2: in many cases, terrorizing them, drugging them and what have you,
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  Speaker 2: and interrogating them. The program for that is primarily to
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  Speaker 2: find out if they what happens on board craft, what
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  Speaker 2: they're learning on board craft, what they're as much information
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  Speaker 2: on the beings as possible that the military are trying
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  Speaker 2: to find out, and they will retrauma. They will actually
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  Speaker 2: retraumatrize them, and they're usually the most traumatized that I
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  Speaker 2: come across are the ones that have had my lab.
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  Speaker 2: Now the real ones. Let me give you an example
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  Speaker 2: of what the survey said. Now I rode awakening, how
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  Speaker 2: extraterrestrial contact can transform your life. I've found that with
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  Speaker 2: the ones that were genuine encounters. And I mean I've
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  Speaker 2: talked about the fact that three and a half thousands
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  Speaker 2: of people, families and children that I've worked with, these
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  Speaker 2: surveys that doctor edgar Mitchell Free Foundation did on the outcomes,
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  Speaker 2: and there are some amazing outcomes. And that is the
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  Speaker 2: real truth of the agenda. When eighty five percent of
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  Speaker 2: that foury two hundred said they had a psycho spiritual transformation,
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  Speaker 2: now that in itself gives you a pretty good idea
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  Speaker 2: of what is the outcome. The outcome is they often
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  Speaker 2: change their diet, they become more holistic, many of them
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  Speaker 2: become healers. Many of them want to live a more
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  Speaker 2: eco friendly lifestyle. They become completely disinterested in living in
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  Speaker 2: a consumer society. Many of them want to connect with
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  Speaker 2: the planet. So you've got a complete change in philosophy
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  Speaker 2: and motivation after their experiences, and most of it is
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  Speaker 2: to be about caring for the planet, being a better
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  Speaker 2: human being. Now, if you've got a dark agenda from
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  Speaker 2: these beings. That is not the outcome you expect for
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  Speaker 2: a start, you know, because why would they bother to
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  Speaker 2: upgrade consciousness, wake people up and enhance their awareness their
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  Speaker 2: multi dimensional abilities. Because that's the bit that I help
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  Speaker 2: a lot with is once they've had contact, they start
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  Speaker 2: to see spirit beings and many other beings in you know,
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  Speaker 2: around them, energy fields, they start to see, orbs of light,
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  Speaker 2: They'll start to become more empathic for example. All these
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  Speaker 2: abilities seem to be enhanced after they have their contact experiences.
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  Speaker 2: So what it seems that many of many of the species.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I can't say that all of them are
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  Speaker 2: benevolent because I don't know that. All I know is
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  Speaker 2: with all the surveys we've done, ultimately the majority find
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  Speaker 2: it has completely transformed their life and their awareness, and
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  Speaker 2: that in itself, I think is very profound.
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  Speaker 1: It almost sounds similar to a near death experience, right,
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  Speaker 1: because when people have a near death experience, they tend
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  Speaker 1: to come back different, right, and they want to change
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  Speaker 1: things about their life. And it would kind of make
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  Speaker 1: sense of like what you were talking about earlier, if
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  Speaker 1: they take the consciousness out of this physical avatar that
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  Speaker 1: we were in to do things to our physical body.
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  Speaker 1: Then that would, whether you knew it or not, that
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  Speaker 1: would technically be a sort of outer body experience or
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  Speaker 1: some sort of near death experience. Have you connected any
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  Speaker 1: near death experiencers to this phenomenon at all?
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  Speaker 2: Righty, you're obviously very well informed and absolutely what I
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  Speaker 2: discovered was that those that had near death experiences then
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  Speaker 2: often were communicating with spirits, r ets or into dimensionals
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. Those that have had shamanic experiences, there's parallels
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  Speaker 2: with that. Those that start opening up spiritually, whether they're
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  Speaker 2: doing healing practices or whatever, start to open up and
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  Speaker 2: see more of the dimensions and more of the different
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  Speaker 2: types of beings, from angelic beings right through to interdimensionals,
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  Speaker 2: extra dimensionals, transdimensionals, some from our visitors from our future.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got all these ways that when we expand
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  Speaker 2: our consciousness, then we also expand our interactions with all
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  Speaker 2: these different intelligences. And I've often said that the UFO
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  Speaker 2: contact experience is like a modern day shamanic wake up call,
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  Speaker 2: because after it, you know, like the shaman has to
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  Speaker 2: transcend their human fears to operate in a multi dimensional reality.
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  Speaker 2: What happens after the encounter experience exactly the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: They have to transcend their human fears and then embrace
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  Speaker 2: a multi dimensional awareness. So it's exactly the same. The
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  Speaker 2: parallels exactly the same. So channeling all these abilities clairvoyance,
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  Speaker 2: Claire audience, Clare sentience, all of these things get expanded
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  Speaker 2: once you have this experience. But it can happen through
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  Speaker 2: a near death experience, it can happen through out of
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  Speaker 2: body experience. It can happen if you've learned remote viewing.
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  Speaker 2: It can happen with anything that expands your consciousness. You
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  Speaker 2: start to see more of if you like, the hologram
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  Speaker 2: and who's in there, and it's all in the same bucket,
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  Speaker 2: the same space if you like, or multi dimensional space,