Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / NT Police Commander Danny Bacon on the latest NT crime stats, particularly the high increase of commercial crime
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You are listening to mix one. Oh four point nine's
- 0:02Speaker 1: three sixty Now it is just on nine thirty and
- 0:05Speaker 1: we are I'm just making sure I've got all these
- 0:07Speaker 1: microphones turned on properly. Now we know that the latest
- 0:10Speaker 1: NT crime statistics have been released and the numbers in
- 0:14Speaker 1: some areas are pretty high. Commercial break ins in Darwen
- 0:18Speaker 1: and Palmerston up significantly in Darwin up forty eight point
- 0:22Speaker 1: five nine percent. Palmerston they're up thirty five point two percent.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Now Alice Springs, Poor old Alice Springs, it was up
- 0:28Speaker 1: sixty percent. Catherine up forty one percent. Now joining me
- 0:32Speaker 1: in the studio to tell us more about the crime
- 0:34Speaker 1: stats is Commander for Darwin and Road Policing, Danny Bacon.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Katy. Commander. Let's talk about these
- 0:42Speaker 1: commercial break ins. First, why are we seeing such an increase.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Is it a result of some of that alcohol related
- 0:48Speaker 1: crime or is it youth crime?
- 0:50Speaker 2: What is this a combination of both, Katie, it's adult
- 0:55Speaker 2: crime predominantly regards to alcohol. I'm seeking for our call,
- 1:00Speaker 2: particularly the our commercial businesses that have alcohol for sale.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Some of it is youth related in regards to small goods,
- 1:10Speaker 2: regards to stuff that they could easily pawn off and
- 1:12Speaker 2: make some quick money for. So the figures are quite large. Certainly,
- 1:18Speaker 2: we've had some small winds within parmers and regarding residential breaks,
- 1:23Speaker 2: which is good to seize two percent in regards to
- 1:27Speaker 2: what we're doing in regards to the property crime itself.
- 1:30Speaker 2: As you know, Strike Force tried and is a tried
- 1:33Speaker 2: and tested strike force within the Greater Darm region. It's
- 1:37Speaker 2: had some significant I suppose input and outcomes in regards
- 1:41Speaker 2: to certainly apprehending offenders in a quick timing matter. I know,
- 1:46Speaker 2: whilst it's not helpful for victims of today, but certainly
- 1:51Speaker 2: in the Greater Dah region there's been a decreasing trend
- 1:54Speaker 2: in property crime over last decade overall. But yes, there
- 1:58Speaker 2: are some significant I suppose people in town at the
- 2:03Speaker 2: moment regarding itinerants, people sleeping rough Some of those individuals
- 2:09Speaker 2: are offending in this nature. So some of it does
- 2:13Speaker 2: relate to residents, but some does relate to our large
- 2:15Speaker 2: increase of visitors.
- 2:16Speaker 1: And we had spoken. We caught up with Travis Wurst
- 2:20Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and spoke about some of
- 2:22Speaker 1: the numbers that we are seeing on the streets in
- 2:25Speaker 1: terms of people here from other communities. We'd also spoken
- 2:28Speaker 1: to the Deputy Commissioner Michael Murphy about it as well,
- 2:31Speaker 1: and he had said that ordinarily there'd be around seven
- 2:34Speaker 1: hundred people maybe in Darwin at any one time, but
- 2:36Speaker 1: we were looking at more than two thousand. How are
- 2:39Speaker 1: those numbers going at the moment. Are we sort of
- 2:41Speaker 1: seeing some people head home or is it really not
- 2:45Speaker 1: changing too.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Much depending on which organization you're speaking to this junction
- 2:49Speaker 2: in time, but those figures vary between two to three thousand.
- 2:52Speaker 2: People are sleeping rough. Some people are leaving rough of
- 2:56Speaker 2: their own volition, if that makes any sense, So they're
- 2:59Speaker 2: choosing that last some unfortunately, are not choosing that lifestyle
- 3:02Speaker 2: as well. So certainly we are one key stakeholder in
- 3:09Speaker 2: this equation. You know, the Department chief men's are coordinating
- 3:13Speaker 2: a lot of stakeholders in this space, and so we're
- 3:16Speaker 2: hoping to see a lot more buying, you know, from
- 3:19Speaker 2: other agencies, both government and non government agencies that are
- 3:22Speaker 2: funded to work in this space. So we're very keen
- 3:26Speaker 2: and we are seeing a lot more of an uptake,
- 3:28Speaker 2: a lot more engagement from those agencies just to certainly
- 3:31Speaker 2: work with those rough sleepers and not itinerous to see,
- 3:34Speaker 2: you know, if there is a availability for a return
- 3:37Speaker 2: to country, or if there's a housing or any other
- 3:40Speaker 2: social issues that need to be for that early intervention.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Because I guess the issue as well is that it's
- 3:46Speaker 1: not only then, you know, when we see businesses broken
- 3:49Speaker 1: into in some cases, or that alcohol issues, but I
- 3:52Speaker 1: would imagine as well, you know, some of that domestic
- 3:55Speaker 1: violence too. It does creep in even on the streets
- 3:58Speaker 1: when there are people sleeping rough.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you did raise domestic viance, K, because
- 4:03Speaker 2: the lot of the conversation is about property crime, and
- 4:06Speaker 2: I'm not detracting. You know, the property crime is quite high,
- 4:08Speaker 2: but you know when we release the property crime, well
- 4:11Speaker 2: the stats on Friday, you know, overnight that night there
- 4:16Speaker 2: was twenty one domestic violence incidents and there were six
- 4:18Speaker 2: unlawful entries. But we're not talking about the domestic aviance.
- 4:21Speaker 2: We're talking about the unlawful entries. And you know four
- 4:24Speaker 2: of those unlawfullys were unlocked premises at the time. So
- 4:28Speaker 2: and even tonight this morning, you know, there's seventeen and
- 4:31Speaker 2: domestic violence incidance confirmed overnight and we had two unlawful
- 4:35Speaker 2: entries confirmed overnight and again both those unlawful entries through
- 4:39Speaker 2: unlocked doors. So you know, certainly in the property area.
- 4:43Speaker 2: In regards to speaking with the community, speaking with victims
- 4:47Speaker 2: about personal safety around the home, I think that can
- 4:50Speaker 2: certainly go a long way to reducing some of that crime.
- 4:53Speaker 2: But I really want to turn our conversations to domestic violence.
- 4:56Speaker 2: You know, the domestic violence numbers are quite staggering. Yes,
- 5:01Speaker 2: we are bringing them down certainly over the last six months.
- 5:04Speaker 2: We're actually reducing some are assault offenders assault offending. However,
- 5:10Speaker 2: they are still quite high. So the commands developed Strikeforce LIRA,
- 5:17Speaker 2: which is a combination of operational offices across the broader
- 5:21Speaker 2: Command region working in with our domestic violence Crime unit,
- 5:24Speaker 2: and they're looking at intervening as soon as the matters
- 5:30Speaker 2: are reported so we can provide more timing investigations for
- 5:33Speaker 2: both repeat victims and certain so we can deal with
- 5:36Speaker 2: offenders before they become resided as offenders as well. So
- 5:39Speaker 2: that's where we're trying to apply a lot of our
- 5:41Speaker 2: resources this time, obviously in conjunction with our Property crime
- 5:45Speaker 2: and ASB work.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Yeah, it does sound as though there's quite a bit
- 5:48Speaker 1: going on in that domestic violence space, not only terribly
- 5:51Speaker 1: in terms of the volume of incidents that you're being
- 5:54Speaker 1: called out to. I mean, that's quite astronomical. Twenty one
- 5:57Speaker 1: incidents one night, seventeen the next. They're really big numbers.
- 6:02Speaker 1: But like I said, it does sound as though the
- 6:04Speaker 1: Territory Police have got a number of different initiatives that
- 6:06Speaker 1: they've got underway to try and make some inroads there, Commander,
- 6:10Speaker 1: when I talk about or when we just to go
- 6:12Speaker 1: back to briefly those break ins and some of those
- 6:16Speaker 1: commercial break ins, when you look at what's going on
- 6:19Speaker 1: at the moment, what additional work are the police sort
- 6:22Speaker 1: of undertaking to try and minimize those commercial break ins?
- 6:26Speaker 1: And I know that there's so many factors that come
- 6:27Speaker 1: into play here, but what work is underway in that space.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Well, certainly our enforcement space is strike force Trident, but
- 6:37Speaker 2: that is just the enforcement aspect. So really what we
- 6:40Speaker 2: need to do is getting that early intervention space. So
- 6:42Speaker 2: that's where the Department, Chief Men, Territory Families Housing, Larkie Nation,
- 6:49Speaker 2: a number of other support agencies. That's where we're expecting
- 6:52Speaker 2: a lot of effort in there, because that's where to
- 6:55Speaker 2: be Frank, that's where we need to get the uptake
- 6:57Speaker 2: from to lessen the offendings where they amblers at the
- 7:00Speaker 2: bottom of the cliffers in that terminology. By the time
- 7:03Speaker 2: they're offending to a certain degree, it's too late. So
- 7:07Speaker 2: we really need to get in that early intervention area
- 7:10Speaker 2: and work with the other agencies and other government departments
- 7:12Speaker 2: in that area.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Hey, can I just ask quickly? I know there was
- 7:14Speaker 1: a couple of incidents or there was one over the weekend,
- 7:17Speaker 1: a sixty one year old woman assaulted in Ballamack as
- 7:20Speaker 1: I understand, is there any update on that situation?
- 7:23Speaker 2: Certainly can a tragic incident in itself, but the eighteen
- 7:28Speaker 2: year old adult is currently in Cussy facing court this
- 7:31Speaker 2: morning and the fourteen year old youth it was apprehended
- 7:36Speaker 2: and it's on restricted bail and we'll be attending court
- 7:39Speaker 2: at a later time now.
- 7:41Speaker 1: I also believe that there was I just heard in
- 7:44Speaker 1: our news a little bit earlier an arrest in Wanguri
- 7:47Speaker 1: in which one of the canine police I believe, then
- 7:52Speaker 1: bit one of the offenders.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Yes it was a canine police dog. Wasn't a canine
- 7:57Speaker 2: police officer that bit one of the offenders? Want to
- 8:00Speaker 2: clarify that, yes, the canine unit is a critical unit
- 8:06Speaker 2: for our enforcement and both in a proactive and reactive
- 8:11Speaker 2: so that we have them patrolling through our nighttime and
- 8:14Speaker 2: obviously when the reports come through, they're a very effective tool. Obviously,
- 8:18Speaker 2: we don't want our canine dogs to bite suspects, our offenders,
- 8:24Speaker 2: but when we call somebody to stop, we hope that
- 8:28Speaker 2: they do so because getting bitten is a likely outcome.
- 8:31Speaker 2: So we'll continue to use the canine units across the
- 8:35Speaker 2: Gray Darin, both in that reactive and proactive sense to
- 8:38Speaker 2: try and both reduce offending so people know that they're about,
- 8:42Speaker 2: but also there to catch offenders and catch offenders in
- 8:46Speaker 2: the timing manner.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Now, we also got a question from a listener a
- 8:49Speaker 1: bit earlier, and you may not be able to provide
- 8:51Speaker 1: much of an update in this case, but this person
- 8:54Speaker 1: did ask, is there any update on the shooting incident
- 8:57Speaker 1: that occurred in Gray recently?
- 8:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly can't provide any update regard that particular matter.
- 9:03Speaker 2: That matter rests with our crime team. What I can
- 9:07Speaker 2: tell your listener is that there's a lot of agencies
- 9:10Speaker 2: obviously working with the community. The community is obviously grieving
- 9:14Speaker 2: and people across a wide spectrum as well. So we're
- 9:18Speaker 2: working with agencies and working with families to try and
- 9:21Speaker 2: make sure that the community feels safe and continue to
- 9:23Speaker 2: do so.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see if we can get a bit of
- 9:26Speaker 1: an update as well from the appropriate areas. Now, before
- 9:29Speaker 1: I let you go, Commander, I know that there has
- 9:31Speaker 1: been a lot happening at the moment, certainly when it
- 9:34Speaker 1: comes to the morale of the force. There is the
- 9:37Speaker 1: high profile court case last week. Now, I certainly don't
- 9:40Speaker 1: expect you to go into any sort of political commentary here,
- 9:43Speaker 1: but how is the morale within the force at the moment?
- 9:46Speaker 2: I think certainly. You know I can't speak for every office,
- 9:49Speaker 2: I really can't, but certainly there's been an emotional and
- 9:53Speaker 2: mental rollercoaster for a lot of our team members for
- 9:56Speaker 2: a long period of time, you know, not detracting from
- 9:58Speaker 2: the challenging incidents, but we'll also a COVID response over
- 10:02Speaker 2: to a year period of time has been quite quite
- 10:05Speaker 2: long and arduous for a lot of our members. So
- 10:08Speaker 2: you know, they're hurting for a range of different reasons.
- 10:12Speaker 2: So is the community itself. We are our individual community,
- 10:15Speaker 2: but you know we're a very broad community. We're part
- 10:17Speaker 2: of the community as well, so where we're grieving with
- 10:20Speaker 2: the community as much as we're grieving with ourselves as well.
- 10:22Speaker 2: But they're very professionally our officers, and they stand up
- 10:26Speaker 2: under those challenging circumstances. They really do, and I'm very
- 10:29Speaker 2: proud of them.
- 10:29Speaker 1: All is I mean, is there any additional work being
- 10:32Speaker 1: undertaken in an effort to sort of support officers or
- 10:35Speaker 1: to try and lift that morale there?
- 10:37Speaker 2: Certainly is. One of my key roles is to certainly
- 10:41Speaker 2: talk to my officers to find out any issues concerned
- 10:44Speaker 2: and sitting address those. You know, a lot of those
- 10:45Speaker 2: is not just external factors, it's also internally and how
- 10:48Speaker 2: they're going and how they're feeling, and how I can
- 10:51Speaker 2: sort of improve both where they're at but also for
- 10:54Speaker 2: their future as well. So I'm very engaged in having
- 10:57Speaker 2: those discussions, and so's my whole management. I'd say, so
- 11:00Speaker 2: the organization and everybody is traveling very very differently. They
- 11:03Speaker 2: really are, depending on you know, they where they are
- 11:05Speaker 2: and their current career and what they've been involved in
- 11:08Speaker 2: or certainly exposed to so well.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Commander for Darwin and Roade Policing Danny Bacon, we really
- 11:14Speaker 1: appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very much for
- 11:16Speaker 1: having a chat with me.
- 11:17Speaker 2: All right, drummers all, thank you, thank you.