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RHOA: Puerto READ-co with Claudia Jordan · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: The second show we did after was I just felt
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't realize there was so many scenes with
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  Speaker 1: people on this fuck Claudia thing, and it was just hurtful,
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  Speaker 1: especially when they were poking fun at my sexual abuse,
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  Speaker 1: and it was just too raw for me. Carlos, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm I just get tired of it, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Like I feel like I'm a good person
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  Speaker 1: and I just constantly get deemed this person that I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Stay tuned look into my conversation with Claudia Jordan's right
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  Speaker 2: after these quick ads.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
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  Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television.
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  Speaker 2: With over ten years of production experience, I've executive produced
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  Speaker 2: top rated programs such as eight seasons of The Real
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  Speaker 2: Housepots of Atlanta. Additionally, I have created shows such as
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  Speaker 2: Netflix's Starling, Hollywood Owns number one rated love and Marriage franchise,
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  Speaker 2: and TV one's Hollywood Divas, just to name a few.
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  Speaker 2: Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit
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  Speaker 2: down with my friends across the entertainment industry recap our
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  Speaker 2: favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are
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  Speaker 2: still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain drops. So look,
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  Speaker 2: on today's episode, I got my girl Claudia Jordan. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: now you may know Claudia as the epic shade assassin
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  Speaker 2: on season seven of the Real Housepots of Atlanta in
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  Speaker 2: addition to her work as a model, in addition to
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  Speaker 2: being on Celebrity Apprentice. In this episode, we get into
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  Speaker 2: how she was asked by me to be on the
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  Speaker 2: Real Housewalks oft Atlanta. How after her shade session with Nini,
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  Speaker 2: the one and only Nini Leaks actually.
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  Speaker 3: Vouched for Claudia to be a peach holder.
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  Speaker 2: And last, but not least, Clauda gets very emotional because
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  Speaker 2: she talks about how social media is really a place
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  Speaker 2: where people disrespect her, talk about her, and how she
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  Speaker 2: feels she is so misunderstood.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all.
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  Speaker 2: This was a very deep, personal, emotional, but also shady
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  Speaker 2: conversation with my girl, Claudia Jordan.
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  Speaker 3: Take a listen. Let me tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, how Claudia Jordan came into my life. So long
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  Speaker 2: story short, I was living in Los Angeles working on
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood Divas for TV one and a mutual friend of
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  Speaker 2: ours said you have to meet Claudia Jordan, Like you
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  Speaker 2: just you have to meet her. So I don't go
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  Speaker 2: out on the weekdays because I work. But for some
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  Speaker 2: reason I went out on like a random Wednesday, and
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  Speaker 2: I was at the Abbey, which is like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the hottest gay spot in West Hollywood, and walked in
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  Speaker 2: was this angel in disguise named Claudia Jordan.
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  Speaker 1: Well, back it up a little bit. I had gotten
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  Speaker 1: let go from a job that day. I always get
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  Speaker 1: another job the day I get fired, Like it's just
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  Speaker 1: I don't stay unemployed for longer than twenty three hours.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of my thing. So the same day, Cole,
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  Speaker 1: we have a couple of mutual friends at the time.
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  Speaker 1: We were like, let's just go out and just drink.
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  Speaker 1: I started drinking and we met you and they said
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  Speaker 1: you got to meet Carlos and we just immediately clicked.
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  Speaker 1: You told me you were going to change my life,
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  Speaker 1: wanting to work with me, and I was like, are
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  Speaker 1: you serious? Like I get told bullshit all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, living in Hollywood, everyone tells you that they
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  Speaker 1: have the thing that's going to change your life. But
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  Speaker 1: you're one of the few too. Maybe that actually came through,
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  Speaker 1: and then a month or two I was at the
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  Speaker 1: True Entertainment Network in an interview and they said, everyone
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  Speaker 1: loves you. How do we make this work?
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  Speaker 2: Listen Back when I'm a producer on the Real Houseports
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  Speaker 2: of Atlanta, so many women stalk me to be on
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  Speaker 2: the show, and because I knew what that show needed,
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  Speaker 2: I would ignore all of them because I was like, listen,
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  Speaker 2: it's a privilege to be on the Real Houseports of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: So when I met you, I didn't meet you thinking like,
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  Speaker 2: let me find a new housewife, because we weren't looking
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with you. So after the epic season
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  Speaker 2: of season six, my biggest thing was always Kenya more
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  Speaker 2: needs a friend, because I always felt that Kenya was
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  Speaker 2: on her own when it came to her position on
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  Speaker 2: the show. And when you told me that you and
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  Speaker 2: Kenya Moore were friends, that's when it clicked me, like,
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  Speaker 2: wait a second, this beautiful woman who is spicy like
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  Speaker 2: an enchilada and can have a good time, but she's
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  Speaker 2: organically connected to Kenya, because that's the thing. You have
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  Speaker 2: to be connected to somebody on the show for it
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  Speaker 2: to make sense. So all of that made sense and
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  Speaker 2: that's why I literally fought for you. But no shade
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  Speaker 2: to me. They didn't listen to me. So tell everybody
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  Speaker 2: how I wanted you to be a housewife. You met
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  Speaker 2: with the production company, they loved you, but when you
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  Speaker 2: started filming, they said you would be a friend to
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  Speaker 2: the show.
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  Speaker 1: They did, and you know, I wasn't wealthy at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Things have changed. I wasn't living in a mansion. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a public relationship. So they were like, we
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  Speaker 1: love you, but how do we make it work. It
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  Speaker 1: was weird because I told you before, I said I'm
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  Speaker 1: friends with Kenya, I'm also cool with Porsche. But it
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  Speaker 1: kind of caused an immediate thing when I got the
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  Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley Show because everyone on this show also does
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  Speaker 1: Dish Nations, so they were in the middle of wrapping
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  Speaker 1: up her contract negotiating. Some people were trying to get
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  Speaker 1: me a dish like. It was a weird three week gap.
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  Speaker 1: Like if I had gotten that call earlier, I would
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  Speaker 1: have been in. But it was this kind of weird.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, if you come and through Kenya, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna hate you. If you come in through Porsche, probably
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  Speaker 1: be easy for you.
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  Speaker 3: Who said that to you?
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  Speaker 1: Do we talk? Was it me and you that talked
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  Speaker 1: about it? It was someone else, me and you.
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  Speaker 2: Talked to No. No, Remember when I met you that night.
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  Speaker 2: I knew that you were friends with Kenya because after
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  Speaker 2: I met you at three o'clock in the morning on
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  Speaker 2: the West Coast time. Mind you, Kenya lives in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: so it's six in the morning her time. I called
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  Speaker 2: Kenya like, bitch, I met Claudia Jordan and I'm finally
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  Speaker 2: going to make sure you have a friend this season.
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  Speaker 3: So I had no idea you knew porschef somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe it was someone at true someone said that,
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  Speaker 1: and me and Kenya didn't have a common friendship where
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  Speaker 1: we talk all the time, But when we do it's
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  Speaker 1: like no time has ever gone by, like we picked
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  Speaker 1: right back up and it's not been a needy friend where,
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  Speaker 1: which I love low maintenance friendships. I'm there for you
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  Speaker 1: when you need me. If someone comes to you unfairly,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have your back, but I don't do your
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  Speaker 1: dirty work. She don't have puppet strings on my back.
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  Speaker 1: No one can put a puppet straight on my back.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't already figured that out, it ain't happening.
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  Speaker 1: But I was cool. I was cool with all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Meani and I have been cool. I did a job
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  Speaker 1: for her before I get into this thing, like oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is a non hostile situation for me. I'm cool.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah. I think they had Dmitriy slated to be
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  Speaker 1: a housewife at the time, and I was like, Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 1: she's got the you know, the rich boyfriend. She's definitely
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  Speaker 1: in the Atlanta scene. I'm not you know, it is
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  Speaker 1: what it is. I was like, this is a cool
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  Speaker 1: ott gig. I didn't watch it a lot. I just
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  Speaker 1: started watching when Kenya got on. I didn't even go
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  Speaker 1: in thinking I was going to be a housewife. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't trying. I was like, Okay, whatever's meant to be
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  Speaker 1: will be.
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  Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more of my conversation with Claudia. Will
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  Speaker 2: be right back after this quick break. This is reality
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  Speaker 2: with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back
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  Speaker 2: into my conversation with Claudia. I wanted Claudia to be
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  Speaker 2: a housewife, a peach holder. Sometimes the requirement is wealthy lifestyle,
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  Speaker 2: relationship with a husband or boyfriend or fiance, and have
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  Speaker 2: a social scene in Atlanta. Although Claudia was friends with Kenya,
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  Speaker 2: she knew Portia, she knew Nini. I was disappointed when
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  Speaker 2: Claudia wasn't a peach holder. Listen, not to brag on myself,
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  Speaker 2: but I knew that she was be one and I
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  Speaker 2: felt that because Dimitria, who I like and we all
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  Speaker 2: love Dimitria.
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  Speaker 3: I never felt.
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  Speaker 2: That Dimitri was a housewife material because she never wanted
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  Speaker 2: to film with the ladies because they weren't her real friends.
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  Speaker 2: And when she did film with them, they hazed her
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  Speaker 2: in a way that was funny but also was a
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  Speaker 2: little bit uncomfortable. And the one thing about Claudia that
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  Speaker 2: I always appreciated, like Candy loved you, Cynthia loved you.
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  Speaker 2: You were a easy fit. So I was disappointed until
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  Speaker 2: that stormy.
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  Speaker 3: Night in Puerto Rico.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Claudia, talk to the girls and guys
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  Speaker 2: listening about when you were at that dinner table. This
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  Speaker 2: is like your first reality show, internal ensemble. You did
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  Speaker 2: Celeby Apprentice and all that, but this was your first
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  Speaker 2: reality show where it's a group of women. You know
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  Speaker 2: some of these people. What was going through your mind
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  Speaker 2: as that dinner conversation in Puerto Rico was happening.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I had requested a couple of
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  Speaker 1: days off from the Ricky Smiley Show, so I was happy.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to go to Puerto Rico to go
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  Speaker 1: hit the casinos, gamble and drink some peanut coladas. That's
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  Speaker 1: all I was there for. So when I'm at the
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  Speaker 1: dinner table and like you said, how the ladies were
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  Speaker 1: kind of hazing Demetria, and I just was like, why
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  Speaker 1: are they picking on Demetria? They were kind of coming
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  Speaker 1: for her relationship, and I'm like, nobody at this table
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  Speaker 1: can talk. None of y'all can talk, So it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: really my business, but I'm very uncomfortable saying two on
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  Speaker 1: one three on one. I thought that was rude. I
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  Speaker 1: had taken a liking Dimetria, so when they were just
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  Speaker 1: kind of making fun of her music career, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: she's made more money on her own than all of
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  Speaker 1: you except for Candy, like knock it off. So I
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  Speaker 1: just thought that was really mean and how they were
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  Speaker 1: coming for Demitria, and it just personally bothered me, Like
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  Speaker 1: I was like, really, is this what we're doing? So
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  Speaker 1: I said something and that's when, oh, you have a brain,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you don't want this. I promise you don't, Honey,
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  Speaker 1: you don't. And I know people going to say, why
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  Speaker 1: are you still talking about this because Carlos King Invitey's podcast.
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  Speaker 2: No, let's be clear. No, I'm going to defid you
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  Speaker 2: really quickly. It's a very small couple of people on Twitter,
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  Speaker 2: which we know. Twitter ain't the real world. It's a
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  Speaker 2: fun playground where you get to play dodgeball by dodging
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  Speaker 2: questions or tweets, or you get to play in the sandbox. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So there's times people say to me, I mean, damn, Carlos,
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  Speaker 2: you left housewife six years ago while you still talking
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 3: Cuz, bitch, I'm the.
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  Speaker 2: One who made all of these great moments happen. So
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  Speaker 2: when I see y'all tweet about it, I want to
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  Speaker 2: play with y'all.
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  Speaker 3: I have fun with it.
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  Speaker 2: So in terms of us talking about this moment, that
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  Speaker 2: moment is iconic because of you and Nini peer we
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  Speaker 2: d and this is an opportunity for you to defend
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  Speaker 2: yourself because a lot of people felt that Claudia came for.
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  Speaker 3: The queen because she wanted a peach.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't care about a peach. I didn't get paid,
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  Speaker 1: Just so y'all know, I didn't go there for money.
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  Speaker 1: I was making money in the Ricky Smiland show. I
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  Speaker 1: was more booked than I had ever been. I did
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  Speaker 1: not sign my contract until the night before the reunion,
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  Speaker 1: and then I was able to negotiate for the one
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  Speaker 1: of the highest first years of any housewife ever in history.
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  Speaker 1: They offered me five figures and I got six. Just
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  Speaker 1: to be clear, most of the women got five figures
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  Speaker 1: their first season. I'm not going to say how much
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  Speaker 1: it was because instead of I'm not putting their business
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  Speaker 1: out there. So if I was that desperate for that,
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  Speaker 1: I would have signed immediately. I did not. I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I was fine with it. Like it wasn't like I
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  Speaker 1: had an agenda. This all really happened organically, me meeting Carlos.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to get a housewife, so y'all can
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  Speaker 1: please stop with that. I wasn't and I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: pre rehearse reads. I didn't really I didn't follow NeDi
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch her. But before we went to Puerto Rico,
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  Speaker 1: I did a Google search and I saw some of
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  Speaker 1: the conversations, but I don't pre record or pre rehearse reads.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very spontaneous off the cuff. I work with Jamie
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  Speaker 1: Fox for four years with real funny people.
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  Speaker 3: So for me, listen.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of those things that I feel like people
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  Speaker 2: hate you just.
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  Speaker 3: To hate on you, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I think because you're a beautiful woman, and you're sarcastic,
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  Speaker 2: you know how to read, you have a dark.
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  Speaker 3: Sense of humor.
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  Speaker 2: I think those are all the reasons why people hate
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  Speaker 2: you or love to hate you. But I always tell
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  Speaker 2: people this, when people hate you, they really love you secretly,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the reason why you have a lot of followers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but we also I wander the psyche
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  Speaker 1: of people that follow people that they say they don't like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I do wonder about that.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that the people that actually know me
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  Speaker 1: or get to know me. So many times I've heard damn,
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were one way, but you're not. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times that's kind of just going with
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  Speaker 1: what people are saying on social media or getting someone
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  Speaker 1: else's opinion. But nine times out of ten, the people
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  Speaker 1: that don't like me haven't met me, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Because once they meet me, it's always like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: you a real one, or I didn't know, or oh
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  Speaker 1: TV makes you look like this. No, we're on a
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  Speaker 1: reality show. And a lot of times you're in situations
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't normally be, and I wouldn't normally be at
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  Speaker 1: lunch with people that are hostile to me. So you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna see an ugly side, you're gonna see a different side.
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  Speaker 1: Or if you like the person that I'm arguing with,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna like me just because you already have
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  Speaker 1: preconceived notions, or you're just riding for your favorite. But
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  Speaker 1: one thing about me you cannot say is that I'm
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  Speaker 1: a liar. You know, I'm very What you see is
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  Speaker 1: what you get sometime it takes five, six, seven years,
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  Speaker 1: but what I say usually comes to fruition and you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't lying. Now, maybe my delivery is very blunt.
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  Speaker 1: I get that from my grandma. I'm from a family
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  Speaker 1: of people that are like kind of low key comedians,
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  Speaker 1: and they don't really sugarcoat We've never sugarcoated anything. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the kind of medicine that I like to receive.
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  Speaker 1: Give it to me straight. When I got to La
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  Speaker 1: I was so frustrated with how people talk in circles.
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  Speaker 1: Get to the fucking point, what are you trying to
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  Speaker 1: say to me? And I think people especially and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not coming for the South, but there is a certain
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  Speaker 1: segment of the population that tries so hard to look
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  Speaker 1: like a good Christian publicly, a classy woman, a Southern
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  Speaker 1: bell And no, I'm not coming for one particular person.
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  Speaker 1: It's the culture. And when they package things in a
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  Speaker 1: sweet way, it's the equivalent of I went to a
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  Speaker 1: pageant and Miss Georgia was my roommate, and she pinched
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  Speaker 1: my cheek and she said, bless your heart, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize she was basically telling you, fuck you. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a down South fuck you, you know, And so
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  Speaker 1: people outside look it in I say, why would you
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  Speaker 1: take offense to that? But I think the way people
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  Speaker 1: package things up to seem really sweet and kind and
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  Speaker 1: almost religious and biblical, but really they're saying or doing
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  Speaker 1: something that's really more sinister. So my bad if I
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  Speaker 1: call it out. I'm really not for the fakes. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just not for the fake and it really bothers me.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe I'm in the wrong industry, and that's why
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm kind of swimming upstream sometimes. If
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  Speaker 1: you like honest and you like people telling it like
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  Speaker 1: it is, then you're probably gonna rock with me, and
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna be a Claudia and Jordan fan. If you
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  Speaker 1: like things package that make you feel comfortable and it
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  Speaker 1: sounds good or it looks good, you're probably gonna hate me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the thing about it is this, I'm a good
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  Speaker 2: judge of character, and I went on record saying I
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  Speaker 2: love you, I adore you. You and I have had arguments.
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  Speaker 2: Claudia cross the seed in the middle of US West
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood and cussed me out.
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  Speaker 1: No, it cuss you out.
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  Speaker 3: You called Claudiac.
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  Speaker 1: It was not a cussout.
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  Speaker 3: You don't yeah what you read.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I was. I was just heart you know.
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  Speaker 1: I I the reality world's honestly clos like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it's new to me, and I just I get tired
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  Speaker 1: of feeling misunderstood and that's not your fault. The second
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  Speaker 1: show we did after was I just felt like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize there was so many scenes with people on
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  Speaker 1: this fuck Claudia thing and it was just her especially
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  Speaker 1: when they were poking fun at my sexual abuse and
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  Speaker 1: it was just too raw for me, Carlos, and I
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  Speaker 1: just get tired of it, you know what I mean, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a good person and I just
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  Speaker 1: constantly get deemed this person that I'm not, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm sorry if it came up
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: and I was coming for you, because you definitely gave
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: me opportunities and I don't think you had wicked intent,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: but at the time, I felt like, damn another one,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like another opportunity to be
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: seen in a different light, and I thought I was
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: and then when I saw all the scenes, it was
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: like I never had beef with Jennifer Williams or reason
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: to and then this entire show. I am a whore,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a bit che I'm with this, and I'm like,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you partnered up with my ex husband to get our
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: annoment papers to make me look crazy that never got
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: shot on the show, on the show, and it just
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: was like I just felt like I still wasn't getting
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you know, people weren't able to still see me. And
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I apologize because you are so and I You're one
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: of my favorite people. You really are, and it really
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: saw that for like a couple of years, we really weren't,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: you know, key keen and talking. But it was just
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: too raw for me, you know what I mean, coming
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: off a Housewives, and I honestly had I honestly had
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: anxiety every Sunday when I watch the show, me and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Cynthy would be on the phone and you guys would
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: send us the episodes so we could write our blogs.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: But I was like, I go on the show with
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: all you know, good intent, I get deemed a colorist,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: a sluts. You don't like when you're a victim of
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: any kind of abuse in your life, and then people
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: use that as zero Achilles They keep hitting you, that's
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: your Achilles heal. It really fucks with you. I felt
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: really fucked up afterwards, and I'm like, Wow, a lie
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: about me just got magnified by Ninni and then her
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: fans just to win an argument. And you know it's
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: not true, you know, I mean, like, you can't show
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: me where I've shown horse behavior ever in my life.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Show me where I fuck with someone's husband, Show me
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: where I've been a gold digger, Show me when I
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a period of my life when I have not worked
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: hard for every single penny I want. I have a Bentley,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a car, I started a production company. I'm producing plays.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: This is all by myself. And that's not a flex. Well, yeah,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it is a flex because I'm proud of what I did.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I did it by myself. No man helped me. I've
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: paid every single phone bill, in car payment, in rent payment,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and mortgage payment. And then to feel like someone could
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: just be in a scene and just say something to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you just to win a scene, knowing it's not true.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That shit hurts me because people repeated. I had fourteen
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: year old boys and my dms that are fans of
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: my ops that are repeating these things, and it was
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: like a thousand death by a thousand little cuts, you
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. So then the second chance on
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the next fifteen I was like, Okay, I can clean
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: that up. And then to see people that I had
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: no reason to have any beef with made it their
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: storyline to just d me this evil person. It just
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't true.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: No, and listen, you don't have to apologize to me
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it, but you don't need to.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I wish people could see you because you're crying and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you're emotional, and and one thing about being on reality
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: TV is it's not all glist and glamour.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: It's not all fun and games. And the reason.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Why I do have this podcast is because it is
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: an opportunity for me to share my show with people
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: like you, who I do feel like are misunderstood. Because
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: even after and listen, I'm of course poking fun about
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: an argument. It was definitely a hurtful situation because I
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: did feel like, damn, Claudia, I always have your back,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: like I always fight for you because I think.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: You're so underrated.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: So where my feelings hurt absolutely, And you and I
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: did not talk for a while because of this, but
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I never stopped loving you because for me, I tell
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: people this all the time, I do not know what
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: it feels like to share my personal life on TV.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: And when people tweet you nasty things. It's one thing
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to get it from the cast, because that's just how
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: you know certain shows are built, but it's one thing
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to have to get that from millions of people as well.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: And I have known you for, oh my god, over
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: ten years. I've never seen you cry.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I cry a lot, Carlos, But people don't see it,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and people think because you can read a bit, that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: means your heart is cold. No, I can read because
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it's a defense mechanism. It's like I have no choice.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I'm the only one that's like fighting for me that
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I see, right, So when you get these attacks, you
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: can't just sit there and look gum. Then you like
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: got read and you're humiliated. So it's like, you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I'm defensive. I am defensive, you know what I mean. So, yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: it is hard when you have never had I had
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: no negativity on my Instagram ever, maybe one or two
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a month, you know. But I also had like sixty
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: thousand followers that I got on Housewives. It like multiplied,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and then it became like you're a bit You're oh,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you're ugly, you're not pretty Udi, and yet you're this
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and you're you ain't shitt and you can't get a man,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and you might be going through something with your relationship,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: So that should be stinging when you're actually going through
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: a situation where you're having an issue with your relationship.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And I just want people to just be more conscious
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of the things they say. And I know people might say, well,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you host the show where you talk gossip. Yes, we
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: talk headlines.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: And well, I think you're not doing You're not taking.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Shade someone's throwing for the sake of a sport and
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: double downing on it on your show by constantly talking
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: about It's a difference if you're a celebrity and you're
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: going through a scandal or best of off, because what
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you're doing is what the white press is doing, and
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: what bothers me is because you are a journalist, is
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: when a black journalist talks about a black celebrity, then
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: they're call like, oh my gosh, you're messy.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: So I'm with you there.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: But to shift gears back to Puerto Rico, honey, A
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: lot of people felt that you rehearsed your reads to Meani,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Oh please.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I don't have the memory to rehearse it. Very I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: didn't expect her to come for me on that trip,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: so't I wasn't prepared, like, oh, she says this, I'm
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: going to say that. I didn't know if she was
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: gonna say spaghetti said spaghetti. You need to have loves
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: spaghetti your diet. I went to college, college, college, what
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: schools that spell bridesmaids? Like? I didn't know she was
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: gonna say that stuff. So everything I said was a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: reaction to what she said. So how could I rehearse that?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: How can you rehearse something that you did not know
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: was going to happen? And that's the beauty of that trip.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I have produced that show up until that point. That
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: was season seven, so I was on there for yeah,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: up until then. So it wasn't like you even knew
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that was going to happen, because as the producer of
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: the show that season, we thought it was going to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: be Dimitria versus Phedra and then maybe Nini versus king
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: You or Cynthia, because that was the season that Cynthia
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: and Nini were on the outs.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: The only thing you did was OPI your mop and.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Say, oh my gosh, are we not even to Nini.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: If you guys watched the freaking scene, Claudia says, oh
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: my gosh, are we the collective?
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Are we really doing this? And that's when Nimi took.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: It upon herself to direct it towards you. That's called
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: common sense, people, How can you rehearse something that you
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: did not know was going to happen.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I just was appalled that Needy and Faedor of being
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: very mean to Demetria and Dimitria didn't do anything to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: warrant that. She was kind of minding her own business,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: trying to be, you know, be protective of her relationship.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: She wasn't popping off to anyone. She wasn't being disrespectful.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: So for them to say they make fun of her
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: singing career, her music, her relationship. Last I checked, she's
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the best singer in the group. That's no shade of
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Candy at all, because I love Candy. But I'm just saying, like,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: she's a great singer, she's a great actress, she's independent,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and she has done it on her own. So I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: don't know why they were being so mean. I think people.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I just think we're in a world now where bad
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: as good and good as bad. The women that are
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: out here getting money by ill be gotten ways, okay,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: we championed them. Oh that's my bitch, she's getting her break.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Who cares the women that are out here working their
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: ass off and may not have the same bags, the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: same cars, or the same whatever, or it may take
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit longer to get there, but they're getting
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it with their on their own merriage. We demonize them.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: We overlook them, we dismiss them, they're whatever. Do you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: know how hard it is to stay in this business five, ten, fifteen,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five years and you did it on your
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: own talent and merit without fucking someone for a gig.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Y'all hard, that is, And women like myself and Demetria
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: have been that you should be. These are the kind
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: of women you should want your daughters to aspire to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: be like. Now, yes, I have a potty mouth and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Dmitrio doesn't, but my core and my values are good.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I'm pro woman, I'm like, yo, go get it, sis.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I'm always celebrating other women on my page all the time.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: But why the women like us are so quick to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: be written off? But a woman that takes a shortcut,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: y'all love that? And then you talk about protect black women.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I think people are full of shit. We say one
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: thing out the one side of our neck, and then
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: really what we're really about is not being represented. And
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I just wish we could get back to where good
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: is good and bad is bad. But we're rewarding bad behavior,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: so why would people start doing it?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I do feel like the universe of reality lovers and
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: just pop culture community they really don't know who you
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: are because after that reed session that you and Nini had,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: you were fine. You laughed at it, and you went
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: back to your hotel room and went to sleep. And
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: what people don't know, and I may have said this
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: before to other people, but I'll say it now, what
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: people don't know is after that scene between you and
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Nini having the reed fest, Nini came up to me
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and said, y'all chose the wrong bitch. Claudia should be
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: a housewife, not Demetria. Because Claudia kept her cool and
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: she went toe to toe with me, and I respect
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the bitch. And that's when I said to myself self, bitch,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you know how to produce a show, and you know
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: callum when you see it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: So because of Nini, real talk.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Because Nini said that to me, that gave me the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: clearance to fight again for Claudia being a housewife because
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: up until then she was a friend to the show.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And weeks after that Puerto Rico trip is when the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: collective agreed to make Claudia housewife. And because of that, unfortunately,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: we had to work backwards to populate scenes so that
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: you could see Claudia's full life so unfortunately, I always
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: thought that you were never given the opportunity to express
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: your real life because you weren't a peach holder until
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a few weeks before we wrapped the season.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And Andy had said that publicly as well. He said
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: she never got a fair shake. He had some people
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: on the show and they said who should come back,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and a few people said me, And he said, she
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: never really was given a fair shot. And again people
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: said she has no storyline. She was broke. Now I'm open.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I had had my friends that delivered from New York.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It took seventeen days. So the first fifty days we
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: beating in Atlanta, y'all saw an empty apartment, and so
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: we bought some iqas just to be funny. I don't
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: mind poking fun of myself. I didn't think y'all would
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: take it as I broke. I don't got it going on.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I was working on a nationally syndicated radio show that
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: had eight million listeners. I was booked every single weekend.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I was working. But like the narrative from y'all, not
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you but the fans is she's broken. She had no storyline.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: If you wait, if you have four months of filming
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: in the last three or four weeks. You're scrambling to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: kind of get something on camera. You're not going to
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: really get the full picture. You're not gonna get what
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I was going through. You're not gonna get my adjustment
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: into a land and all my friends in my life.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I understand what y'all think, but that's just
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: not the case. And you know, I probably should have
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: agreed and come back when they offered me to come
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: back as a friend of the show to re earn
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: my peach, But honestly, I was going through getting my
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: contract not yet and renewed at Ricky Smiley Show. I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: was going through a breakup. Everything happened in the same week,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and I was my heart hurt. You guys, as much
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: as y'all think I'm a hardcore strong bitch, I'm really sensitive.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sensitive. I'm a sense of person. I have a
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: heart it breaks constantly. But I have to put out
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: a strong face publicly for what I do. So I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: honestly was like, let me just go back to LA
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: where I'm familiar with. I know, you know, Atlanta. Okay,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I got love fear, but I'm out and I left
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and I did a show with you and I did
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a talk show.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: So what's funny is the show you talked about that
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: we did together after Housewives was the next fifteen on
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: TV one, which, unfortunately, and I will go on record
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: saying this, that show was a hit of his time.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: It was, and it's funny because so many people now
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: rewatch clips and post clips and the fans are like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: what show is this?
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: How did I miss this? It was under the radar.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that show was so funny that even Jesse Smollett
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: text you and Caramo, because y'all were friends at the time.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I forgot what he said, but he was like bitch,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: like he was like he loved this show. He goes,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I cannot not watch the show like he was a
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: huge fan of the show. He really was. And I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: forgot exactly what he said after that, but.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said something like, you two are fools. I
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: love it, And then.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: You two ask him to like tweet about it because
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: we needed the ratings because it was on TV one
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people did not know where the
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: show was. And I remember him saying to you guys
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: something along the lines of allegedly that if he tweeted
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: about the show.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: It would like tain his career or something.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jesse, Now, Jesse, you should have just put
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the tweet out because I think you would have been fine.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And what's interesting, though, is a lot of celebrities are
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: now coming out of the woodworks praising reality TV.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm with them, like.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Jesse, Like, I know, Empire is the number one show
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: on TV at that time, but I don't think your
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: career is ruined if you tweet that you're watching reality TV.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I never understood why certain celebrities think that way. I
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: never understood that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: You know, everyone wants to be grander than they are
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and just you know everything. So I can't my brand
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: my brand. I need people to retire the damn word brand.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I'm so sick of it. Everybody with an Instagram don't
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: have a brand. Not saying Jesse does not, but it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: just like my brand. This my brand that your friends
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: are on the show and you like it, keep it
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a butt. What's wrong with that? Listen? I watched Mari
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Povich and Jerry Springer all the time. People say that's
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: trash TV, that shit is funny. It's how I love it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And I've guest hosted on Morey and I will do
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it again. Just I just need people to stop being
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: so fake. If you like something, you like it, be
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: unapologetically you.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: So you now live in Dallas?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Real Housewives of Dallas has been put on hold.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Would you ever return to the Real Housewives and if so,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: would you be open to doing Dallas?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? I feel like I went into Housewives very green,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and now I know the game.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Not that I want to be all fake and I don't.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I still want to be authentic, but I know a
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: little bit better, like, Okay, get a little bit more
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: glam or you know what this scene really how someone
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: can hijack the scene because I went in there really
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: like I know, I'm really trying to fix this problem,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and then the girl on the other side of the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: tables like I'm just trying to make you look stupid
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: and read you, and I'm like, oh, I didn't really realize.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I thought we was being real, but we're not. Okay,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: got it. I would definitely do it, And I did
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: have an interview with Real Housewives of Dallas when I
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: first got Fox. I was in LA did a zoom
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: call with them, and I was.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Well, hold on, hold on, you auditioned to be on
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Dallas.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I didn't know this.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they called the production folks. So I was hanging
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: out with Deandra. We hung out a couple of times,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and I think they were trying to bring a little
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: diversities to the show. So we hung out a few
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: times and she was like kind of fighting for me,
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  Speaker 1: and so I had a Zoom meeting. But honestly, the
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  Speaker 1: day of the Zoom meeting, I just got Fox Soul.
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  Speaker 1: So I was literally commuting from Dallas to La Monday morning,
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  Speaker 1: going on the air Monday night, and leaving Friday. So
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I can only give you the
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  Speaker 1: weekends and maybe a Wednesday. And they were like they
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  Speaker 1: had asked the pictures of my guy's house, my place,
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  Speaker 1: like we had gotten that far. So then when that
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  Speaker 1: couldn't happen, it was like they moved on and they
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  Speaker 1: had been talked to a bunch of black women in Dallas. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: it is a huge mistake that the Dallas franchise did
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  Speaker 1: not tap into the black women in Dallas. When I
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  Speaker 1: tell you, I've never been in a city where the
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  Speaker 1: black women are so successful, way more successful than their men.
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  Speaker 1: These women own trucking companies, their own lines. They are
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  Speaker 1: interior designers, they run nonprofits. And I say money, This
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  Speaker 1: ain't no entertainment money. Where let me look like I
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  Speaker 1: have money and and I wrent designer clothes. These are people, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your friend. Anyways, these are people that actually buy stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They don't ask for hookups. They actually have money, not
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: just money, but it's like they actually have real businesses,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So they're missing a huge opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: They're sassy, they're funny, they talk shit, and we all
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  Speaker 1: are friends. There's a group of us that's like we
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: have Deete Maguire, who's like one of the few black
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: women in syndicated radio that's gaining markets like every single month.
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  Speaker 1: We've got my girls that I told you about. She's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: dating a drummer, a huge drum with Katie Perry. We've
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  Speaker 1: got my girl Tony Grant who has the VJ label.
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  Speaker 1: She's got in her man. They got a truck and compy.
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  Speaker 1: They're they're like country Country Country, but now they got money,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: so they always in versaci. So this shit is so funny.
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  Speaker 1: We all have gambling problems. Like there's a cool group
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  Speaker 1: of people down and we've talked about it. They're missing
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  Speaker 1: a huge opportunity. But that's okay, Carlos, because we're gonna
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: do Alpha Women dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let the girls know. Listen.
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  Speaker 2: I would love any opportunity to work with you again.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: You are a fantastic reality star.
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  Speaker 3: You really are.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're funny, You're beautiful, you you're You have
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: this presence on the camera that I just think is
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a gift. I enjoy you for taking time out of
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: your very busy schedule being the host of so many
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  Speaker 2: shows on Fox.
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  Speaker 3: Soul. I'm so proud of you.
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  Speaker 2: Follow her at at Claudia Jordan on Twitter and Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: and you never know, you just may see that beautiful
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  Speaker 2: face again on TV.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you, Claudia, Carlos.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to do this.
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  Speaker 2: That conversation with Claudia truly was magnificent and meaningful.
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  Speaker 3: What I love about it is, look, y'all know.
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  Speaker 2: I love y'all on Twitter, I love y'all on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all can read me all day long, and I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Give a damn. I really don't care. But I'm also
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: not a reality star.
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  Speaker 2: And what you guys don't understand is it takes a
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  Speaker 2: lot of courage and bravery to put your life out
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  Speaker 2: there and be judged by the world. So when y'all
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: say negative things about these housewives or reality stars, it
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: really doesn't affect them. When it comes to Claudia Jordan,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the woman that I know, she's super strong, she's super funny,
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  Speaker 2: and she can take a lot. I have never seen
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  Speaker 2: Claudia get that emotional, and I have known her for,
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  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, more than ten years. I really do
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  Speaker 2: hope that you guys give these reality stars a little
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: bit of a break with the mean comments, because it
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: does affect them.
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  Speaker 3: They're not perfect.
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  Speaker 2: They are really showing you, guys, what it's like to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: be imperfect, what it's like to make mistakes, what it's
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: like to live your real life in front of the camera.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: It for our entertainment and enjoyment, but please take some
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: time out to at least show a little bit of
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: respect to these reality stars we love to watch every
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: single night because as you just listen to with Claudia,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: it does affect and not only does it affect them,
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  Speaker 2: it really affects them in an emotional place. And then
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: we're all about protecting black women and protecting people with
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: mental health.
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  Speaker 3: Then we have to put our foot where our mouth
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: is and apply that to the mean tweets that we do.
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  Speaker 2: Thoughts, opinions. Read about my conversation with Claudia. Email me
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