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06. Smut Fiction w/ Dulce · Amigos, Afraid!

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Are we live? We're live.
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We're live, just you and I. It's Thursday.
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You. You and I.
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In case you guys didn't look at your calendar, today's Thursday,
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which means there's a new episode.
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Of the daily BJJJ. What's the daily BJ?
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The Daily BJ could be whatever you want it to be.
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It's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle, it's a
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mentality. Yeah, it's me.
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It's you. And sometimes there's a third.
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I mean, if there's a third, it was all consensual, we swear.
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Wait guys can I get a daily BJ too?
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Yeah, first of all, I'm married. Yes, only because you asked so
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nicely. I'm married so.
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For the viewers out there, I'm batting my eyes.
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Hey guys, we have a special guest today.
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Wait, that wasn't you, Brian. No, I, I, as much as I've been
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practicing my like throwing my voice, no, that was not me.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we are joined with a very special guest
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today, joining us here at BJ Studios in California.
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Helps the aliens talking again. They're back.
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They're back. I would like to give a warm
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welcome to the not only the love of my life, she's my financial
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advisor, my legal advisor, a professional smart reader, and
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the reason I wake up every morning literally because my
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alarm goes off and she's like, turn that shit off.
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So please give a warm welcome to Duarte.
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Hello. Oh shit, who is this man?
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Hi friends. Hello, welcome to Set to the
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podcast. Welcome to the Daily VJ.
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Thank you for asking me to be here.
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Literally three hours ago. Listen, if we ever, I mean we
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will continue with more guests, but it will also be at short
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notice. Well, we have nothing better to
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do. On a on a Thursday morning.
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Did she turn in all the paperwork?
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I you were in charge of the paperwork, Jerry, you drafted
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and provided her the. Did you turn him into my
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secretary contract? I am your secretary, so yes.
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Perfect. OK.
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We're solid. Did you verify with her ID?
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Yes. Andrew Social might you want my
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fingerprints? Oh, I already have those.
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Oh, he wants you to put. Them in your sleep and and
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those. OK, so how was your guys this
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week? Jerry?
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It's been a couple days since I've seen you.
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No. No, no, I I can't with such a
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pretty lady in front of me. Please.
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I insist. Brian.
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What? I'm just kidding.
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Go. I want.
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I want of course. What's new?
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Nothing much you know. As always, been reading a lot.
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Good. Yeah, went to go watch
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Thunderbolts this weekend. Oh, I heard.
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Yeah, it. Was it was good?
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It was. True.
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Really only good I heard it was great.
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I I liked it and it's a good setup movie.
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Like I'm excited for what's to come in the Marvel Universe
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because I feel like I haven't been like excited for Marvel
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since either Spider Man or like the OG Avengers so.
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I agree, yeah, I've been kind of checked out of that franchise.
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But it was lovely seeing Bucky. He's in it.
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Winter Soldier. I don't think I've seen a single
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trailer for this movie. He's.
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Soldiering away in that movie. He took off his jacket and all I
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heard was hot. And then I coughed and I said,
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what you. Know what I'm saying?
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It wasn't the man to to the right of you.
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No, no, it was her. It only hurt.
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OK, I'll have to add that to to my watch list.
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You Jerry, let's new with you. What did I do?
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I, I actually, I didn't go watch Thunderbolt, so I don't know who
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you went with. Other Jerry.
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Oh no. Other Jerry, that was.
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Jerry with AG with AG. Oh, I'm actually drinking out of
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the mug with AG right now, so. Today he's he goes by his legal
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name. Get out of.
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The Gerardo. And no, don't see Gerardo from
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invaders him. Yes, I take it back.
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No, you have to say it like how we went when we went to the UK
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and Gerard, the the yeah, TSA guy, Gerard.
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Gerard, I'm like. Gerard, you your white person
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name is. Rob, first of all stop with a
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fake accent. Second of all, it's get out of
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the. Please pronounce it correct.
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I think they get paid to put on that accent.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. I think the whole no, I won't, I
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won't get into it, the. UK isn't real.
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That's that's another episode we saw Thunderbolts.
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I also agree, it was, it was a really good movie, better than
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like the last Captain America movie, a good set up for what's
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to come. And yeah, I mean, it's a solid
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film, a solid movie. I liked it.
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Besides that. We chilled.
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I mean, we had a really nice like, weekend to ourselves.
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We watched a lot of How I Met Your Mother.
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We're almost done with it. That's it, yeah.
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You all hung out with me, hung out with Melissa.
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Weekend. Week, I said.
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Week. I said week, roll the tape back.
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I said how was your week? So anyways, last Tuesday,
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Tuesday to Wednesday, it was a weekday.
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Was it not Friday? No, it was a weekday.
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It was a weekday and I was like lol, we're gonna drink on a
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weekday. It was not last Thursday.
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Last Thursday we did DND. Wednesday we did DND Wednesday.
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We did. We did.
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Look at Brian gaslighting. We wanna.
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Fight you. Okay, okay, a lot happened.
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We did have D&D on Wednesday because I got roped into a last
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minute work thing, which honestly ended up being pretty
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fun. But after that we had a viewing
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party for Lady Gagas Copa Cabana Show Brazil.
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Incredible. I think, OK, this is going to be
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the Gaga section of the podcast. I was hearing rumors the streets
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are saying that they're her team is trying her best to
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differentiate this little like festival kind of run from the
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actual Mayhem Ball. So.
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So saying that, it's not going to be the.
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Same. Yes, that once, because where is
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she at right now in the well? She was Singapore.
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Singapore, that after this run of shows that once she actually
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starts an actual tour here in the US, that it their chances
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are it's different because it's going to be, it's not.
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They're not huge stadiums and her show right now, her current
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show is like 4 big stadiums. That's true.
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So I don't know, it might be different.
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If we catch wind, you might see me there.
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Yeah, it was a different show. So what?
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You're saying is we're going. I don't.
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Know people already been whispering in my ear.
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Anthony the other day said, oh, she comes.
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I'm like, oh, she's going to come like, oh, I want to see
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her. So I don't know, might go.
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Anyways, we did that Thursday. Jerry made us some mojitos
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because he's a, he's a, a struggling, not struggling,
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aspiring and struggling. He's a struggling.
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He's like a starved artist, you know, giving it all for his
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craft. Trying his best took him. 30
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minutes to make 3 mojitos. Yeah, which?
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Is why we did not tip him and. And the taste?
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It was great the. Savvy one was better.
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Thank you. Yeah.
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Which means I'm only getting better, yeah.
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You're so right, I. I heard something today that.
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Said it was this person on TikTok and they teach you how to
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like do dragon stuff and like how to serve cunt and she's like
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I got a masters is it? Bernie.
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Yes, I love Miss Bernie. She is the master today.
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She said a skill is just something that you have not
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learned yet. And I'm like, damn, you're
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right. I love her so.
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Your mixology skill is you're levelling up.
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You're like a little simp, just practicing over and over.
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Level 1, someone's controlling me.
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Yeah, the universe even controlling.
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My I saw a. Simulation.
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Yeah, even infected by a virus. Can we talk about Drag Race real
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quick? Yeah, go ahead.
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You've been keeping up with All Stars?
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Yes, Irene Spoiler. Spoiler warning just in case.
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Spoiler. Warning Irene.
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Front. Runner killing it?
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Yeah. First out to front runner.
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It was a fluke. Her season was a fluke.
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Like it was just she it. Was just one bad the badge that
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didn't land. Yeah, one joke that didn't land
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exactly, but. Her talent was, I knew it.
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She was very witty in her in her season.
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What was it two seasons ago? I don't watch the main seasons
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to be honest. It was.
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Like Four Seasons ago. Oh damn.
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We don't have what is it? Wow.
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We don't have wow, it's on different.
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Apps, it's on Paramount, it's on Hulu, it's it's everywhere.
8:14
Not on Paramount. Oh no, we have all.
8:16
Stars on Paramount, but not it's on Peacock.
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There you go. Yeah, we don't have Peacock.
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She's great. And Bosco I.
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Love Bosco Bosco's I. Can't stop staring at her
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titties there. Who's her doctor?
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Crafted by the gods, yeah. Perfect.
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Yeah, I'm invested. I'm having a lot of fun this
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season. Yeah, the last Friday's episode,
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the last like 20 minutes, had me stressed out with the whole,
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like, most valuable queen points and right.
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On stage. On Yeah.
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So good. Looking forward to more.
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Yeah, I. Am too and then root dropping
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the oh this might not be your last chance one of you might
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come back that's I'm excited I'm.
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Glad we're actually keeping up. It's always All Stars though.
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We always see All Stars like they're everywhere.
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I. Surprisingly have not been
9:03
getting alien content like I've been saying out loud for my
9:06
phone to pick up. I've been getting a lot of
9:08
supernatural content. You.
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Too, I've been getting a lot of like videos like recording video
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footage from home and stuff send.
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That to me, why haven't you? Because.
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I don't watch them, I get scared.
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Oh. Yeah, yeah.
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You know what I've been having a lot of content of just like,
9:23
just like spooky things. Did you see the that Madame
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Laveau's house caught on fire randomly?
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Oh. The plantation you mean, not?
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The plantation, yes, the plantation caught on fire that.
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Was right after they transferred Annabelle, by the way, to
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Louisiana. That was right after they
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transferred the Annabelle doll. It's all.
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Connected. Why?
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Is it on tour? Why are why are they moving this
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doll which was strictly told, not strict instructions to not
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move the freaking doll all? I know is if that doll is
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responsible for burning down the last plantation.
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Honestly. Annie, Annie are you OK cuz
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you're eating? But no Madame Laveau.
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I guess there's she has a shop in like New Orleans somewhere.
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I did not Fact Check any of this.
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I could be lying but I don't think I am.
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She had a store or a shop that's still fine.
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But like the actual house that she lived in like caught on
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fire. I saw that on TikTok today but I
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don't know it's all connected somehow.
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I. Do I have seen skits where like,
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like, like paranormal museums and stuff, workers are like, oh,
10:24
hey, we're bringing the doll. And then they're like, no, we're
10:28
not. And like, yeah, we're gonna have
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to make space for it. It was a skit, so this could be
10:31
fake. Also trust my source, it's
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TikTok. But also, but maybe the dolls.
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Yeah, Annabelle included Annabelle.
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Included. But then, yeah, she was like, I
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quit and she's like, you got to be kidding.
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She's like, Nope, Bye. Yeah.
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Like no. Wow.
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They said it's open for me. We're.
10:47
Catching. Up.
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Lamonda well. What are we here for, Brian?
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Why are you here? You brought.
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Lucy here for a very specific reason.
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Do tell. She is our resident.
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A little bookworm, little a little smut worm.
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That's a great thing. She's been reading some spicy
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material that she has been telling us all about.
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Granted we've been reading it together, some of it we've been
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reading it together. But miss Home Girls and over it
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cheaper she's reading like 3 to 4 books at once.
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No lies were told. Nope.
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The tandem read she's been catching me up on.
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Oh yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, Jerry's been reading
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through Osmosis. Not these I know like the the
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main points the main points. But like besides ACOTAR, no
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everything else is just osmosis like absorbing main main parts.
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I know where the climax happened.
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I know who's dead. Who's he knows?
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He knows. I know all the climaxes.
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Climaxes. She reads it to him out loud.
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She's probably like, babe, come over here, let me read you some.
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Listen. Listen Linda, fellas, just have
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your partner read it to you. Yeah, I mean it works perfectly
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since you never learn how to read.
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Recommend 10 out of 10 that's. That's really funny because I do
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see like TikTok videos that girls make of like their their
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boyfriends or their husbands and how the boyfriends are like how
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they're really like yes, keep reading.
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Keep doing what you're doing girl, because and then there's
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always like those single men haters that make their own
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videos and they're like, oh, these girls are reading trash
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what they're doing. They.
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Don't get haters, they don't get it 'cause this is for the girls.
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This is for the girls. Those are the.
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Dudes that like have their search history completely wiped.
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You're right. They're on their list.
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They're literally on the list somewhere.
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Yeah, no. So my beautiful amazing Co host
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Jerry has drafted a list of some questions to ask Dulce that she
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would be so kind to answer and enlighten us.
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And we will chip in too because I'm no stranger to to sweaty
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material. No, you're not.
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You're not disturbed? Yeah.
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This is very much an episode for you as well, Brian, so I need
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your take your input. Feel free to I.
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Know I will. I have to come in anytime.
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Come in anytime you ask. I've.
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Been waiting for this moment. OK, well then you're in charge
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of reading the questions. Wow.
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Why me? Cuz you're the mastermind.
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You have the mind of a mastermind, the mind of a
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master. Big head.
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He's called me. Big head.
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What? Megamind.
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Megamind, I don't know, you're blue.
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Well, you saw the questions as well, so you've been briefed.
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This is the first time you're hearing these dulces, so you.
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Didn't send it to her, to her with the form.
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I didn't. OK, I'm just kidding.
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I'm sorry. I didn't have.
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You didn't. Know that I'm sorry.
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I didn't have more hope in you. That's not me, OK?
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Well, this question is for both of you, but please do you.
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Feel like we're on a game show right now.
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How many points do I get per question?
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It depends. How you answer?
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Oh, the. Spicier the better.
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Your first question, I'm not gonna see, I'm not gonna say the
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wheel of what is it wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy tune because
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we will get. Copyright.
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So what was the first spicy book that made you blush or hooked
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you completely? Jeez.
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OK, I'm like trying to think back, think back to my young
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mind, you know, I feel like by the.
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Way. You're so beautiful.
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Anyways, my. Goal is to make Brian as
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uncomfortable as possible. Taking advantage that we're in
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an enclosed space together. I have a feeling this whole
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episode is going to be a giant. Hear me out by the way.
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But I think just like because I was so little, I was probably
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like middle school aged at this time.
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I didn't really know what like Spice was or what like.
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I feel like our interpretations when we're younger I'm.
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Hoping I have it in my mind what you're going to say because.
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Maybe, maybe not mine. Was this book I.
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Wore this shirt for a reason though it was Twilight it was.
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That's what I was going to say. Breaking Dawn.
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It was twilight, probably. Breaking Dawn, Yes.
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Like they break the bed around. That time I was reading that and
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I remember. Like no business.
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I remember at that time I knew what page numbers they were on.
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Oh yeah. Like this is young me here
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knowing what page she has. Not changed the flip.
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She has literally not changed. I've only gotten worse.
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She's putting sticky notes, and let me tell you, those notes
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weren't sticky to begin with. Dude, the amount of things
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sticking out of her books. Sticking notes.
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Post it. Post it but for.
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Sure, Twilight. What do you think?
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Brian I. Was also going to say Twilight.
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I was in 6th grade reading those books at the recommendation of
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my teacher. Oh.
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She didn't know what she was. No, no, she was like the epitome
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of like mom fangirl of these of the series, and she got the
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entire the girdlies were all reading this, plus me because
15:56
yeah, work. And she started her own book
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club and. Then she was kind of hesitant
15:59
about us reading the the last one but she was like oh I mean
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OK if you want to do not need to know about no beds being cracked
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in half. Them going at it like animals in
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my poor mind. Wow, wow, wow.
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And honestly very very tame compared to very.
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Tame. What adult fiction is, Yeah.
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It's I would consider probably why like young adults, yes.
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I did not read adult fiction until last year.
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I was not aware of the world that was out there.
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Well, for a long time, and I think I've told the like book
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group Gurlies this too. Shout out book up Gurlies turn.
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Pages make some noise. This is the.
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Second time we shout out the term Yeah, we have to.
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Owe us more dollars. But I think I've mentioned this
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before that I stopped reading for pleasure for a long time
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because of college. Like college did it for me.
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And so I was just like focused on academic literature or
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academic writing and whatnot. And I didn't read and literally
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because of book club and shout out Melissa, because of book
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club, I like delved into books again.
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And here I am. And it's cool because Jerry's
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known me, what, 11 years now? And he's never seen bookworm
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Dorset and. You unlocked a new.
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A A new achievement skin. A new skin.
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A new skin. We got a bookshelf not too long
17:19
ago 'cause we had a really small ones, but we have one of those
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really cool ones from World Market.
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Super awesome find that you found.
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Actually, it's filled 90% of those, 9099% of those are her
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books, which she's probably read by now.
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It's a big bookshelf. Like I think it's taller than I
17:37
am and I'm six feet. You need.
17:39
A second bookshelf. It's like. 6-2, maybe 6-3 now
17:41
the the bookshelf now as it's growing as if it's growing tall.
17:45
It's like a six foot 3 bookshelf.
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It's pretty big and it's it's packed.
17:50
I have my PlayStation on there and I have like not.
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For logs, yeah, yeah. I make you move it.
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Evicted. She's.
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Going to move it into the friggin fireplace.
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As in burn it. She's going to burn my PSI.
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I need more room for my books. My books.
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She's. The biggest bookworm I know,
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which is pretty fitting because if I'm the bird guy, she's the
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bookworm I. Don't want to know what that
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makes you together. EW, I get it.
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I get it. I got it a little late too.
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EW, early bird gets the worm. Thank.
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You. Thank you.
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Sorry if you're uncomfortable listening.
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To this at home, apologize to. Me.
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I want you to apologize directly to me.
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I'm sorry, Brian, move on. To your next question.
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Next question, what's your spice scale and what earns a Book 5
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chili pepper rating in your opinion?
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OK, we did this for. One of our book clubs, I think.
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We did do this because we had a whole presentation book club
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where we all read a book and we got to rate it.
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So for me personally, 'cause I, I know everybody's opinion
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differentiates but mine, I think for me it's all about the
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descriptions. Like I wanna know what's going
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and where. And if, if we know if we have
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those descriptions, then that's higher rating.
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That's more more Chili Peppers. So your chili pepper rating is
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like 5 out of five? Like what?
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Like I. Think A5 out of five is like
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it's. You like, add like, yeah, yeah,
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this is me. This is me.
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Not as a like. Oh, this is the spiciest thing
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I've ever read. No.
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Oh, OK. It's like that.
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I understand. I understand you.
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Get it like this is just my like how I will rate 5 stars.
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OK. I think if it's descriptive,
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meaning we know what what's happening in detail and if it's
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creative because because I think creativity for me is like, oh,
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something is happening that I've never imagined in my life before
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or I didn't know was possible or like that type of thing to me is
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like, Oh, that's up there because that's and that's the
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beauty of art and literature is like things are happening that
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one would never imagine. OK, So I think that for me is is
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a higher rating and obviously like kinkiness if there's things
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in there that are a little a little dabbling in like the
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unknown or the. What's it called?
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The taboo. Taboo.
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That's a good word, brain. Then that's a higher.
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Higher rating, that's what. I was going to say well makes it
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a like a 5 out of five. Chili pepper is something one
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I've never considered did not know existed and it makes me
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question some things Interesting.
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But I get what you mean about the the the describing things.
20:30
If you present me something like that I'm familiar with, but you
20:34
painted in such a pretty picture where it makes me romanticize
20:37
it. I was thinking about that on the
20:39
way home today. I was like damn they the way
20:42
they describe it seems better than it is in actuality.
20:47
You know, we're reading things through a female gaze most of
20:49
the time, too. We have to acknowledge true
20:52
these things are gonna be artsier and then like they're.
20:55
Written from yeah yeah, a woman is writing these I.
20:58
Can't compete with these male men or male characters.
21:01
Oh. I know, however, the way they're
21:03
described, I am. Taking notes out of their
21:05
playbook. I would hope you are because if
21:08
I was a woman and had a male partner I would be like read
21:12
this take notes come back to me later page we're meeting in an
21:17
hour. Absorb.
21:17
But you can't. Study up, buddy.
21:20
Yep, exactly and. Study I have.
21:25
Next question. Next question.
21:28
Why? Arranging.
21:29
So hard at Jerry's faces. What's wrong with my face?
21:33
I. Love thinking of even Vicky guy
21:34
contact with bees. Vicky No.
21:38
My leg is shaking. I have that effect.
21:42
Question #4 Are there any spicy book tropes you love or hate?
21:48
Yes. OK I love myself a book trope I
21:54
really do but it has to be done right And I think for me one
21:58
trope that I don't like and this isn't honestly even in just in
22:01
books this can be like in TV shows too is like the
22:04
misunderstanding trope. Like there there's a big
22:08
misunderstanding between the the 2 character or the the main
22:11
character love interests where either they, there's like a
22:14
miscommunication with somebody else where there's like a third
22:18
party that says something and they're like what?
22:20
Oh no. And then they've run away or
22:22
like something happened. I'm like, oh, it's, it annoys me
22:25
so much because I think it's lazy.
22:27
Just. Talk to it's.
22:28
Just talk to each other. Just talk.
22:30
To. Each other it's.
22:31
The author trying to torture their reader.
22:33
Yeah, it really feels that way. It feels like it's a.
22:35
Lazy thing to do. Sorry I cut you off, Frank.
22:37
No, go ahead. So it's more of a lazy thing in
22:39
your eyes? Yes.
22:40
But also it's it screams to me immature or like it screams to
22:44
me childish and it's giving like high school teenage drama as
22:49
opposed to conflict in a romance which.
22:52
Is why I feel like I see it the most in YA books.
22:57
Wow. Like one of the books I read
22:58
recently, The Sun Bear Chronicles, that's a big thing
23:04
like feeling one thing but it gets they say something and it's
23:09
misread and it just adds another 4 chapters of like they don't
23:14
like each other I see when like literally the chapter before
23:17
they were this close to like kissing or something.
23:19
I do see it in some of the more mild contemporary romances.
23:24
Like I I I even remember one of the Emily Henry books that I've
23:27
read. Like, yeah, there it very much
23:30
gives that like at the end of the book and then literally it's
23:32
just like, oh, they're over it. And then the end, they're
23:35
happily ever after and I hate it.
23:38
No, I agree. It's unsatisfied.
23:39
It's. Kind of lazy.
23:40
I mean I've never written a book.
23:42
I am so sorry. I don't want to offend any
23:43
authors reading this, but as a reader looking at it, it's
23:47
giving you're running out of plot devices to add tension.
23:52
Yes. Wow.
23:56
How many points have we gotten so far?
23:58
You're at Brian's at six. You're at 9:00.
24:00
Wait, I want to talk about my favorite trope.
24:03
Oh, yes, thank you my. Favorite trope which is so
24:06
generic but I freaking love is enemies to lover festy I.
24:11
Had your nose used? To love her, it's just it gives
24:14
it a sense of passion. Like, you know from the start
24:16
that there is a level of like there's just fiery tension.
24:20
And when you play that into like, oh, I hate you to oh,
24:25
wait, why are we in this kind of fine space?
24:26
Oh, I hate you. And then I start making out
24:28
when. The rage turns into passion.
24:30
Exactly, I love it. You know what?
24:32
I see your hand and I'm gonna raise you a little bit.
24:34
Oh, OK. Enemies to lovers mixed in with
24:37
another trope, like enemies to lovers, fated mates or enemies
24:41
to lovers. And also, Oh my God, like that,
24:43
that type of thing. Cassie and Nesta.
24:45
Oof, yes. Beautiful.
24:47
Yes. There's also like 4th Wing 10
24:50
out of 10 like they are literally like enemy like their
24:54
their family lines are enemies. Oh, very.
24:57
RJ, you. Know it's yes it's giving it's
24:59
giving like I hate you I hate you before I even met you that
25:05
that 10 out of 10 I. Was.
25:08
Like so many people love that book, Yes.
25:10
We do. Amazing 10 points for
25:12
Gryffindor. Wait, who's Gryffindor?
25:14
I think Brian is Gryffindor. What are your houses?
25:18
I'm giving a rape. Rape.
25:18
I'm giving hopeful, I suppose. I'm giving muggle in the alley.
25:28
What's What's the rap? Jerry's name?
25:30
Owl. Jerry's giving owl.
25:32
Messenger owl giving. Hedwig, man, this is your
25:34
episode. I'm just, I'm just, you're
25:36
commentating. I'm just you're moderating.
25:39
Who? Who?
25:40
Yeah, that's. Really funny you say that
25:42
because the other day someone was talking about you who was
25:46
talking about me. That was such a good a giggle.
25:54
It was. Pause for dramatic fact I.
25:59
Don't know, they just said you sound like an owl.
26:00
Who? Who?
26:03
Who Thanks. Thank you.
26:08
That was good. You're welcome in the.
26:10
Original thought ever I heard that from TikTok?
26:14
Thank you for sharing. That was a lovely answer you
26:15
both. Thank you so much.
26:16
You're welcome, I skipped a question, I'll come back to it
26:19
at the end. Have you ever read a scene so
26:22
spicy it made you stop reading in public?
26:27
Many. Why don't you take this one
26:30
first? So recently for book club we
26:34
started reading Crescent City and this is the first time I've
26:38
done audiobook completely as opposed to just reading not.
26:41
Just any audiobook ohh. Graphic Audio, I'm never gonna
26:44
do a regular born no audiobook. I need voice actors, I need
26:48
sound effects, I need the full production.
26:53
What I did prior when reading a guitar is I have it on my
26:56
Kindle, which is amazing. No one knows what you're reading
26:58
on a Kindle 'cause it's just a page.
27:00
I'm not there with like the book.
27:02
And people can be like, well, what is that?
27:03
And find out, yeah, 'cause downtown at work, I'm reading
27:07
downtime at work. I was listening.
27:09
And then I, I, you, you sense it coming.
27:13
You know exactly what's coming. That point I have to hit pause.
27:17
This is for outside of the workplace.
27:19
This is for on the way home. Very.
27:20
Professional Brian, good for you.
27:22
There was. Many, many scenes.
27:24
Many, many scenes. I'm sure there was a lot of
27:27
Acatar scenes. We actually I heard one that
27:29
played by accident when we got into the car and auto connected.
27:32
Oh my God, yes to the radio. Autoplay.
27:35
Autoplay. That was my first experience to
27:37
to Graphic Audio. Silver flames, right?
27:39
It's. Considerable.
27:40
Considerable length. Considerable.
27:42
Length unable to wrap my my hands around it.
27:46
Crazy it's giving. Coffee can.
27:48
It's coffee. Coffee.
27:50
It's giving Hydro Flask. Hydro Flask the. 32 ounce let's.
27:54
Just serve 82 ounces. Wow.
27:57
Wow, Well, yes, I have to. And you know what?
28:01
I actually was listening to a book on my way to work.
28:08
Take it this. No, I'm getting off the freeway
28:10
on a light and it was this book. Actually, in my defense, this
28:15
book was recommended to me by a worker at Barnes and Noble.
28:19
Shout out Norma from Barnes and Noble for Fullerton because she
28:23
we we were having a whole conversation.
28:25
I don't know if it was because she saw us pick up like a fourth
28:29
wing book. I, I was with Paula.
28:30
Shut up, Paula. And we were at Barnes and Noble
28:34
and this lady comes up to us and we start talking about fourth
28:37
wing and we start talking about how we're excited for the next
28:38
book and, and then Acatar and we're just all bonding over
28:41
books. And then she's like, we, I think
28:45
we ask her like, what are your recommendations?
28:47
You know, like now you know our vibe.
28:48
And she's like, well, I usually don't recommend this to
28:50
everybody, but you guys seem cool.
28:51
So she saw something, and she she saw the light in the she saw
28:57
the lust. In the eyes.
28:59
And she recommended, it's called Lights Out, and it's, I forget
29:04
the author's name, Naveessa something.
29:07
And so I was like, you know what?
29:09
I'm gonna I'm gonna get the audio book and just like play
29:11
it. It sounds fun.
29:12
And she even said like the oh, the audio book is good.
29:14
Like you should listen. And I was like, OK, cool.
29:16
This will be my driving to and from workbook.
29:19
No, ma'am. This.
29:21
Was I think out of the all the books I've read this was by far
29:24
the spiciest book and I was I realized this on my way to work.
29:29
Take it 8:00 in the morning reading, listening to smut on
29:32
the way to work 8:00 in the morning at the red light.
29:34
Best way to? Start your day.
29:35
And it woke me up, that's for sure.
29:37
And there was a scene that I like, had to cover my mouth
29:42
because I was scared that the people next to me were gonna see
29:45
and think I was having like a panic attack or something.
29:48
I was, I couldn't like, I couldn't I, I had to put pause
29:53
because, and I came back to it later.
29:55
I finished it. The book, the book was great,
29:57
but there was a scene. Yeah, if, if I feel like if you
30:01
know, you know, there was a scene where something went in
30:04
something else that wasn't supposed to, right.
30:06
That's about the stalker criminal.
30:08
It's. About a stalker and a nurse.
30:10
A nurse and a stalker? Yes it is, and let me tell you,
30:16
it's just well written. Very descriptive.
30:19
Very descriptive, very creative. When?
30:21
I get to those parts and I'm like, I'm driving and I'm at a
30:25
stoplight. I will turn down the volume
30:27
until it's barely audible to me because I'm like, no, I these
30:31
people can't know. My car is not tinted.
30:33
My windows are. I'm in a fishbowl and they're
30:36
gonna see every reaction and. They're gonna know I'm just
30:39
gonna be there. Straight faced red cheek.
30:41
Belt, have you? Ever.
30:43
Have you ever heard like when someone's talking on like on
30:45
their like Apple? Yes, it's clear it day you can.
30:49
Hear on the outside, it's like echoed from the outside
30:53
perimeter. There's like a little, yeah.
30:55
Honestly it sounds louder outside the car.
30:57
Exactly. Yeah, sometimes it does.
30:58
I'm like I can hear the whole conversation.
31:00
Jail. I can hear, I can hear the the
31:02
velvet sheathed metal. Lock him up, officers, lock him
31:07
up. Take me in.
31:10
OK, wow. Any last thoughts for that last
31:12
question? We both admitted to things,
31:14
apparently. How many points did that get us?
31:17
Brian 9. Dunte 60.
31:23
You lost points. Oh, I.
31:24
Lost points, damn it got a good descriptive.
31:27
All right. So we're currently at a
31:31
stalemate with 57 points each. Oh that was quick map.
31:36
OK, next question, are there any scenes you'd label as legendary
31:41
or unhinged? Which one is it?
31:45
OK, I don't I won't give you an unhinged one.
31:47
There's this one book series I read that I don't really want to
31:50
talk about because it was like jaw droppingly like it's one of
31:54
those books that like had trigger warnings at the front
31:56
where it was like this has a has a well, I don't it was a.
32:01
It. Was a It was a tough read to to
32:03
in some parts it was a very tough read.
32:05
But legendary is the scene in one of the a guitar books where
32:13
they're at the cabin and there's a table and a ball.
32:18
There's a feast. There is a feast and a ball.
32:21
There's a Thanksgiving dinner. Wait, was.
32:23
That the big reveal. The big reveal.
32:27
There's lots of big reveals. There was paint involved, there
32:31
was OK, OK, frames falling off the wall.
32:33
I believe so. You're talking about Aquamath
32:36
chapter 55. What page number page I don't.
32:40
Know the page. I wish I did.
32:42
Chapter 55. 369. Yeah, famous.
32:46
Famously, the pardon is the. Fury chapter 55 give it a read.
32:50
Is that the one where it's followed by the his big Oh, the
32:53
big longer of the yeah, that's 55 or he gives them she he tells
32:56
her all the back story. I've loved you before you even
32:58
knew existed. Wow.
32:59
Yep. Yep, and we didn't.
33:01
Name names, So no spoiler Technically no spoilers, Yes.
33:04
Nope. Yep.
33:05
Wow, so so iconic. That was legendary.
33:08
That was on my on my top three. I did a top three and that was
33:10
one of them. OK, I think for legendary, one
33:15
of mine is from one of the well now three books of 4th wing, the
33:21
4th wing series. It's and it's also it's not like
33:25
a how do I explain it? It's like more of like the
33:28
wording of it rather than the actual like actions that take
33:31
place because there's this really famous quote with the
33:34
male main character where he says my house, my chair, my
33:37
woman. And then things move from there.
33:40
10 out of 10 blame me. And it's so funny because even
33:43
the author now, she was like, I didn't think that that quote was
33:46
gonna be such a big deal, but it's like a famous quote now.
33:49
Everyone loves, people are getting.
33:50
Tattooed. I'm guessing it's on tote bags.
33:53
It's on coffee cup. You got tattooed.
33:58
Cut that out, please. But then another one that's
34:03
unhinged is in one in this book called King of Is it King of
34:08
Pride? I think it's King of Pride.
34:10
It's Anna Wang is the author and she is she write about.
34:14
She's. This little like this little
34:16
Asian lady, and she knows how to read, how to write smut.
34:19
Let me tell you, yes, and it's a it's a scene in a library in
34:24
like a hidden study in a library.
34:26
And yes, things progress. It's it's very great.
34:29
It is very unhinged though, but also very creative.
34:33
I will overlook some weird, unhinged stuff.
34:35
If it's creative, it's very creative.
34:36
If it's creative, it has me fully invested.
34:39
I'm gonna. I was.
34:40
Like oh I didn't know that that could be a thing.
34:44
Also it's that book has a very unproblematic male main
34:47
character which we love. Oh, love that love.
34:49
An unproblematic man? Yeah, I don't.
34:50
Think I've ever met an unproblematic man?
34:54
That hurts. I actually have one for this
34:57
one. Unhinged Cordis Silver Flames
35:01
chapter 37. I'm kidding.
35:03
I was like you've. Read.
35:07
It was like. Yeah, that's the chapter.
35:08
There. Is 2 characters in the House of
35:11
Wind I think who are like getting back at each other?
35:16
Oh my God. And there's two.
35:18
Scenes. Talking about.
35:20
If you know, you know that is the unhinged you.
35:23
Gave me war flashbacks I think. You nailed it with the getting
35:26
back at each other. That's like.
35:27
That exactly. Yeah.
35:28
No, they nailed each other. Oh, I.
35:31
Well, something was got. No, I'm just kidding.
35:34
Cut that out. That was terrible.
35:35
It was a terrible joke. I don't know what I was trying
35:37
to do with that. I'm not.
35:37
Cutting it out just so they know that you can't tell jokes.
35:42
Maybe I am the joke, Brian. That's sad.
35:45
Maybe you're thinking of yourself that way.
35:46
No, I'm. Just kidding, baby girl.
35:49
Yes, that is my two cents. Three points for Gryffindor.
35:55
All right, next question. Oh, I'm sorry.
35:58
Was that it for both of you? OK, OK, sure.
36:01
Are there any authors, any like notable writers that are killing
36:08
it in the department right now, in the spice department I.
36:10
Only know 1 and that's Mr. de Mass.
36:13
That's all I read, I mean. I'm sure there's many, but the
36:16
few that I've like read up on enough to kind of say that
36:20
they're killing it, I guess, is Anna Wang.
36:24
She's like churning out these books.
36:26
She has a series and it's called Kings of Sin.
36:28
And so every book is like a different of the seven deadly
36:31
sins. So like she's going through the
36:32
list right now and she's already at like 6 or five, 5 or 6 I
36:36
think. So she's killing it.
36:38
And then Ali Hazelwood, she's also killing it.
36:42
She has like Benny was. Familiar what?
36:43
What's what? What's her book so?
36:45
She does mostly contemporary romance, but she also has one
36:51
random fantasy romance which is like vampires and werewolves. 10
36:56
out of 10. But then like most recently, she
37:00
dropped a book. It's called Deep End and it's
37:02
about like swimmers. I did read that one.
37:04
It's good. I need to.
37:05
Google it because I think I've seen this cover.
37:06
You've probably. Seen the cover, it's blue and
37:08
purple and it's about like college swimmers and it's good.
37:12
I enjoyed it. I have.
37:13
This has been recommended to me on TikTok multiple times.
37:16
She's showed up on my for you page a lot.
37:18
Well, she. Has a lot of books out. that
37:19
Lady cranks out like 3 books, 4 books a year.
37:22
Like she just has one every season.
37:24
I don't know where she's, I don't know what she's doing.
37:27
But her publishers, they're just saying give me more, we'll put
37:30
it out. She's writing of her personal
37:32
experience, right? It's just the lives she's lived.
37:34
But we got but Paula and I got a book signed by her at the LA
37:39
Times Festival. Book, that's why.
37:41
That name's familiar, yeah. She was a sweet little red
37:44
headed lady with bangs and glasses.
37:47
Open to recommendations in the comments, however.
37:49
Drop your favorite authors please.
37:51
Please if any of you guys read any kind of LGBT books send them
37:54
to me at I've only been reading them straight.
37:58
There is one that I've been wanting to recommend you.
38:00
I'll tell you about it later, OK?
38:01
Is that why? You've only been sleeping 8
38:02
hours straight. Yeah, dude, I don't know what's
38:05
come over me trying to shake it off, you know, convert back.
38:07
Yeah, yeah. You'll get there, friend.
38:09
Thank you. Help our help our friend out.
38:12
Drop him. Yeah, like is 1 case in the
38:14
comment. This one's for both of you.
38:16
This is going to be really fun. If you could insert yourself
38:18
into any spicy book couple. Who are you joining?
38:21
It could be 1 evening. You guys are just out.
38:22
You're like, hey, they look fun. The one eight thing, no strings
38:27
of touch. I never.
38:29
Thought about this. I'm married.
38:31
You're married. OK, can she bring her husband?
38:34
I would never but if you were married.
38:39
If I wasn't married, yeah, OK, it would be a Eiffel Tower with.
38:46
Oh, I love a trip to Fran. I've heard it's OK there.
38:51
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do like just kidding.
38:53
I don't know. I don't want to start a by
38:54
panic. So I'm gonna go to male main
38:56
characters instead of a couple. OK, yeah.
38:59
Is that fair or do I have to pick a couple that's?
39:01
Fair. That's that's because I.
39:03
Honestly feel like if I were to pick a couple, it would be
39:04
Bryson Hunt from Crescent City because I feel like Bryce would
39:07
be fun. She would be fun.
39:10
She yeah. And also I think I'd vibe with
39:11
her. She has the.
39:12
Best POV out of any of Sarah's books that I've read, Yeah.
39:17
But I think for sure my shadow zaddies, Zadan Ryerson, our wing
39:23
leader, our fearless wing leader, and Reese Reese and no
39:28
last name of the night Court, our fearless.
39:32
Hi, Lord. Hi, Lord.
39:34
I don't know, I've never considered get.
39:39
Creative Brian Be. In there I recall you talking
39:41
about Dragons in the past. Oh.
39:43
That book is bad though. But I mean, just a thought,
39:45
Maybe Dragons? I don't know, maybe I should
39:48
read 4th. What are?
39:49
Your thoughts on like Tharian I? Do like Tharian.
39:53
We finished Crescent City. By this point we have not had
39:55
book club so we haven't talked about it but most everyone has
39:57
finished. I think the only one still
39:59
reading was Paula and Mosa no. Mosa No.
40:01
I think, yeah, I think so, everyone.
40:02
'S done I. Think Paula's the only one, but
40:04
she, I mean, she doesn't care. Yeah.
40:06
So. I I was led on the entire time
40:10
by these little short scenes. As a queer person, you pick up
40:14
on signals that other people overlook.
40:17
And there's very specific scenes where Ethan's character and
40:22
Therian's character were giving more than friends, like
40:26
emotionally more than just the any kind of male relationship
40:30
that was given in any of the previous books.
40:32
Like she aside from like the recent Cassian and Azrael in
40:37
Akatar, the level of like connection that these characters
40:41
had at the just at the start of like meeting each other.
40:45
I was like, oh, there's something here.
40:48
This entire series and all her other books that I've read are
40:51
like about mates and meeting your mate.
40:53
And I'm like, oh, it's giving something here.
40:56
They have a connection and she played into it about how there
40:59
was a lot of guilds A plague into Oh my God, I put him here,
41:03
I need to save him. It is my fault in the same way a
41:06
lot of others like to see that. Happen and it's not too late.
41:09
I don't know, I was so pissed off that they threw in
41:13
additional characters at the end and kind of like paired them
41:15
off. But anyways, I would do that.
41:16
Farian and Ethan from Crescent City, a werewolf and a merman.
41:20
Honestly, I'm into it. I love that he's the merman.
41:23
Yeah. The Murr.
41:24
Yeah, the. Murr Yeah, I think that's why
41:26
Murr. The Murr.
41:27
Does he have red? Hair.
41:27
I think he has red hair too, right I.
41:29
Picture him with red hair. I picture Ethan as a blonde,
41:32
like a like stark white. He's a young.
41:34
Pup, that was Yeah, he's outcasted, yeah.
41:36
Very like college, college baseball player like yeah.
41:39
He's giving college rugby, honestly, he's giving rugby.
41:42
OK, my decision's set that finalizes it.
41:45
You'll. Like slug it in love rugby got.
41:47
It love rugby. The thighs, the slutty little
41:51
thighs and. Big men I'm.
41:53
Gonna get you some rugby shorts. What?
41:55
Please do, I'll pitch. In it's gonna.
42:00
Be the sponsor. Sponsor.
42:01
That'll be. The.
42:03
Daily. BJ that'll be the podcast
42:04
uniform we have to show up. It cost you is.
42:08
It gonna say like the daily BJ like right on the cheeks.
42:10
BJ on each one. But yours says.
42:12
B Mine says JB, but in the front.
42:16
In the front. OK, what about you?
42:20
What about me? Answer the question.
42:22
Yeah, what you're under? External.
42:23
Characters I've. Read like the back of cereal
42:26
boxes and if you're. Going to tell me, Tony the
42:29
tiger, you're going to ask you to leave?
42:31
I just can't answer. I support you.
42:33
Let's see. We stand with.
42:35
We stand with ferries, but not 2.
42:37
Can't, Sam? Well, that's how I was going.
42:38
To go to the leprechaun from Lucky Charms.
42:39
But anyways, I'm feeling lucky. I am gonna go, Ryan.
42:46
Is he a gay icon? Is he the leprechaun from like?
42:49
In terms of gay icon, no. Tony, the Tigers were of a gay
42:51
icon. You're.
42:51
Right. So you're into furries?
42:54
Is that what I'm getting at? Anyways, answer the question all
42:57
roads. Come back to furries, the red
43:00
and fair changed. The red and fair.
43:01
Changed all right, Couple, couple, couple, I mean, or
43:07
characters or characters. Yeah, I don't want you to have
43:10
we've. Broadened the category OK.
43:12
OK I would like to take first hand training by Reese and I
43:17
want him to take under, take me under his wing and teach me
43:20
everything he knows. How old is he?
43:21
Like 300? My guy knows stuff, so I mean, I
43:31
guess Nesta. I was gonna guess Nesta Jerry
43:35
likes a a dominant a very dominant woman.
43:38
Yeah, he does. I.
43:39
Was gonna say can I guess for you and my first guess is gonna
43:41
be Nesta. It's probably gonna.
43:42
Be Nesta because our favorite was badass and everything.
43:44
And I'm yes, I'm going off at ACOTAR because that's the only
43:46
series I've read from book 1 to book 66555.
43:53
Nesta badass. Like that's hot.
43:55
Yeah, that's fucking hot. Yeah.
43:56
I mean, come on. Literally.
43:58
Take no prisoners like. Nope.
44:01
She's in charge. Good choices, good choices, good
44:03
choices. Thank you.
44:06
That will end the segment on spicy content.
44:08
Now let's go to robot. OK.
44:09
Wait, but but before that I would if you're no, I'm if
44:14
you're brave little listeners, please comment who you some of
44:20
your favorite fan, not fantasy, but a fictional characters that
44:23
you're just like damn, if I met them in real life, we might we
44:25
might get down. I would love to know.
44:28
I please comment. I want to.
44:30
I want to find out. And you don't have.
44:31
You can give us clues too. Yes, you.
44:34
Will not be judged. Nope.
44:35
This is but not. Here safe space Yes, this is the
44:37
daily. BJF are these pictures are above
44:39
the age of 18 please in their books.
44:41
Of course, respective books, they don't.
44:42
Even have to be human, no? Absolutely not.
44:44
I won't judge. I don't know that dragon you
44:47
were the the serpent you were telling me about the dragon
44:50
serpent with. Oh, Oh yeah.
44:53
I mean, hear me out, Throne of. Glass.
44:55
In Throne of Glass, there's the character.
44:57
She's really bad ass and she's a shifter, but in a way where she
45:02
can shift into any animal as long as she has enough power.
45:06
And so she can shift into like a sea dragon and like a snow
45:11
leopard and Brian. A sea dragon all.
45:13
This cool stuff, yeah. You you seen trick?
45:17
Nothing. Nothing pleases me anymore.
45:21
Good for you. A wet dragon.
45:23
That's what you want. Good for you.
45:26
I got another. He just nodded.
45:29
I just nodded. OK, I did skip one question, but
45:34
we're going to continue. We'll come back.
45:35
No. You're in charge.
45:37
Romanticity. We've.
45:40
Talked a lot about romanticity this past segment.
45:44
What is it about romanticity that keeps readers coming back
45:47
for more? Escapism.
45:51
It's not real. You wish it was.
45:54
I think romanticity is the perfect combination of escapism,
45:58
'cause it's like the fantasy element where you're in a
46:01
different world, you're emerged into an another reality that was
46:05
isn't this one. And then also you have like the
46:09
added layer of the like love or the romance of it all, where
46:15
it's like this fairy tale thing, you know, 'cause I feel like
46:18
when we're kids, we all grow up with like more or less an image
46:22
of fairy tales. And now we grew up and now we
46:25
like this type of fairy tale, right?
46:27
Where it's like a different story told by an adult lens, but
46:32
it's still fun and exciting and all the things we like.
46:37
It plays on those tropes yes, of like this can it's not it's so
46:45
not real because of the fantasy. There's one thing to read
46:49
fiction and it be like, especially contemporary fiction,
46:52
which I don't really, I don't read a lot of it has to have
46:55
some kind of like fantastical element because the fantasy
46:58
just, it makes it so unattainable that you get so
47:03
invested in it. At least I do, because it's not
47:05
like. Oh.
47:07
This is a story about someone who works in an office and they
47:10
fall in love with someone who works also in the office.
47:12
Because that's boring. That's like, that's too real
47:14
world. Give me something that I have no
47:16
familiarity with so I'm completely enthralled and I and
47:21
I'll be happy. Give me a magic system.
47:23
I love magic. Give me fair.
47:25
Yeah, yeah. Give me.
47:27
Give me pointy ears. The point is.
47:30
And I think it just explores creativity totally, especially
47:33
when an author does it so well and they give you an entire
47:36
world. Like, how did you do that?
47:38
How'd you create that? Yeah.
47:40
What's the planning into this? Well, there's lower to it and
47:42
there's just much more than just like a series like no, there's
47:46
books and. There's emotional release too.
47:48
I feel like there's a lot that goes into what when it's good,
47:52
right? When it's written well, I think
47:55
that it it can invoke a lot of feelings.
47:58
And I think there's like the sadistic part of us that enjoys
48:00
to have like those little moments of like sadness or, or
48:03
just feeling for characters that are literally not real.
48:08
They're on a page. Yes, cuz it's better.
48:09
To feel that over it's cuz it's better to feel it over a
48:12
fictional character than a real one.
48:14
Yeah, than a real person for. Real.
48:18
They're not real. No honestly that is why for the
48:21
longest time I was not able to finish books if I knew they had
48:25
a sad ending because I hate knowing that my favorite
48:29
character either dies or they don't get a happy ending that
48:33
will keep me from reading a book for the longest time.
48:37
Speaking of, it just reminded me of Song of Achilles.
48:40
Stop. That's the couple I want to be
48:42
it, OK. That's great.
48:44
Them as adults, them while they're fighting right before
48:47
they start fighting the war, Yeah, before they start fighting
48:50
the freaking Trojan War. Wow, that's great.
48:52
When? They're living their best life.
48:54
That's funny, just beautiful. Rebecca Yaros, the author of 4th
48:57
Wing. But she also does a lot of cool
48:58
contemporary stuff. She did an interview recently
49:02
where people were asking her like why she leaves off on such
49:05
like crazy cliffhangers where she just leaves us like our
49:09
chests feel like they just dropped.
49:11
And then she doesn't pick it up. And she literally said she's
49:14
like, oh, you guys love it? And the crowd just starts
49:17
laughing. And she's like, also don't think
49:20
that or what does she say? She she kind of says like, also,
49:23
you all picked up the book. OK, that's implied consent.
49:26
Like you, you sadist little shits.
49:29
Like it basically just says, I was like, oh please, you guys
49:32
love it. Like it's really funny that she
49:34
owns it. Like because she does.
49:36
She does have really sad endings to her books, all her books, not
49:40
just the fantasy ones. Pretty funny.
49:44
I'm not going to read those books now.
49:46
I don't you. Read the first one through
49:48
Osmosis kind. Of but I didn't remember that it
49:50
had a sad ending. I mean.
49:54
Yeah, yeah. I'd rather a sad ending in a
49:57
movie than a book because a movie is A at Max usually a 2
50:01
hour investment. A book if I'm sitting there
50:03
reading for days I get attached. You put.
50:05
In time I. I love them, I love them and
50:09
they're not real. Not to beat a dead horse in the
50:11
in what is it? Not to beat a dead horse, but
50:14
also I'd rather hear a commentary on like politics, the
50:19
world at large through a fantasy lens.
50:21
It's so much more fun, even though how it's kind of sad and
50:25
you can see it like, yeah, The Hunger Games has been repeated
50:29
so many times and it's literally just a commentary on like, the
50:33
current state of affairs, imperialism.
50:36
Yeah, I love that too. Like seeing kinda how it plays
50:41
out through there because for the most part, right.
50:43
Not gonna generalize, but for the most part we get a happy
50:47
ending eventually, or at least a satisfying ending eventually,
50:50
and we all love to cheer for that because we don't know what
50:53
the ending of this story is gonna be.
50:56
You're so right. So.
50:57
I think that's another good point.
50:58
Yeah, totally. Which fantasy world do you wish
51:01
was real just so you can fall in love there?
51:05
Brythian, I feel like a lot of the other books that I've read
51:09
or, or the fantasy books that I've read, the worlds are super
51:11
grim and like cutthroat and it's all about survival.
51:14
And I feel like Perthian out of all of them is like the
51:16
prettiest. Yeah.
51:17
It's just pretty you could be. Living in Velaris, having the
51:19
time of your life. Yeah, or.
51:20
Like, go to the summer court, go to the, you know, just hang out.
51:23
I feel like it'd be pretty. You could just vacation in other
51:27
aisles, other courts. Go to the summer court, yeah.
51:31
You just have to avoid the middle.
51:34
That's it maybe. Why don't you just?
51:36
Meet me in the middle. Don't Meet me.
51:38
Don't. Meet me in the middle.
51:39
There's monsters there. I would like I would do the
51:43
Eternal City. OK.
51:46
Post post war, the ending, yeah, post war I don't know, maybe
51:51
even like I would do it chapter 1 of of.
51:58
First book, Christian City. Yeah.
51:59
What's the first book? House of.
52:01
Flame and. Chapter No, that's the third
52:02
one, The wind and no breath. Or no, that's the second one
52:06
House. Of Sky and.
52:08
No, wait, wait. The first book.
52:10
The first book. Because the city won.
52:13
It's just like it's giving like grungy party.
52:18
Do you? Like that, there's technology I.
52:19
Do like that there's technology, but I like how like.
52:22
Earth and blood. Earth and blood.
52:23
Earth and blood. It's giving warehouse party like
52:26
the entire storyline is not story but the vibes are.
52:29
Party one night, you go to work, party the next night, everyone's
52:33
having the time of their. Lives.
52:34
What you're saying is club? Plain, yes.
52:39
OK, that sounds like fun. It sounds like everyone's just
52:42
trying. They're they're they're living
52:44
their hard lives. Yeah, they're oppressed, but
52:46
they know how to party. There's another one I would
52:48
name, but she's she's dead to us.
52:52
She should be dead to everyone. Yes.
52:55
Do I know this? Yes, you.
52:57
Considering you've been calling points for Gryffindor, yes, you
52:59
know it. You.
52:59
Know her, but we are not. We don't.
53:01
We don't discuss her. No.
53:04
But the Lord is. Yeah, that world.
53:07
Undeniably. Yeah.
53:09
Yeah. Pretty good, pretty good, pretty
53:10
great. I'm living in the Shire.
53:15
Jerry's gonna be a Hobbit, OK? Jerry Hobbit was freaking.
53:17
They're releasing a Animal Crossing type game that is based
53:21
off the Shire in your Hobbit. Oh.
53:23
That's so cute. It's like.
53:24
A cozy game, it's how. Beautiful that like map is gonna
53:27
be. And you know what?
53:28
The Shire. Posts everything.
53:30
Yeah, I think that's a great answer.
53:31
Just a. Little Hobbit, a little Hobbit,
53:34
a little Hobbit. Home and like, yeah, I'm a
53:35
little Hobbit hole and I just have all my neighbors around and
53:38
have like, you know, like relatives that I talk shit to
53:40
like. Drinking hot chocolate and
53:42
eating meat that's. It and those meat having feasts.
53:44
Collecting shit? Yeah, that's it.
53:47
Foraging. Foraging, yeah.
53:49
Wow, that's a great answer. Thank you. 10 points for me, OK.
53:55
Finally. No, I'm beating, I'm winning
53:58
right now, so catch up. Catch you it.
54:01
He's too silent. And we've talked about this, but
54:04
this is, you know, romanticy. So enemy celevers, faded maze,
54:06
forbidden love. What trove do you think rules
54:09
romanticy? Same answer, yeah.
54:12
OK, we're sticking with the enemies.
54:13
Yeah, or faded love, like we're meant we're meant to be.
54:17
That's literally everything romanticy is like.
54:19
Yeah, even the like the parodies to to romanticy plays on the.
54:26
Oh, I love you. Like you're the king of darkness
54:29
and I'm just a lonely villager and we're meant to fall in love
54:32
you. Kill people, Jacob.
54:34
Oh my gosh, have you seen those edits?
54:36
No, no, tell her. I love Twilight is so funny
54:38
because it's so cringy in in twilight.
54:42
There's like the Twilight, the. Book Verse.
54:46
Book 1 right, Edward says I've killed people Bella, like he's
54:50
warning her to stay away from him, right.
54:52
And he's like, I've killed people and she's like, I don't
54:54
care. And then in New Moon, there's a
54:57
scene where after she finds out that Jacob is a werewolf, he's
55:01
like he he's like explaining it to her.
55:04
And she's like, Oh my gosh, you, you hurt people, Jacob.
55:08
And he's like, we don't hurt anybody or I don't hurt anybody.
55:11
And she's like, it doesn't matter, like you're.
55:13
The You know what this is? It's racism.
55:16
Just because he's brown, because he's.
55:18
Brown and Edward's white Bella, you're racist, LA.
55:23
Bella, La. Bella.
55:25
Well, she is from. Arizona.
55:28
Bella. Mooted red RedState.
55:30
RedState Bella. She's.
55:32
From Phoenix for sure. Oh.
55:33
Absolutely no. Is she from like?
55:36
Albuquerque or something? No, You know where she is?
55:39
She's from. What's that place we went to the
55:43
rich place. In Glendale.
55:45
No Scottsdale, She's from Scottsdale, Scottsdale.
55:47
She's from all the way from Scottsdale.
55:50
She's from Scottsdale. Wow, super bad reference.
55:54
These are. I'm gonna go to the song now,
55:56
OK? Do you think Romantic gets the
55:59
credit it deserves in the book world?
56:01
I think. Right now it does, yeah.
56:03
I think now, like within the probably the past five to 10
56:06
years, it's developed the credit that it deserves, yeah.
56:09
Because I think for the longest time it was very much like, you
56:13
keep it to yourself because it was not the mainstream.
56:16
It's kind of nerdy, yeah. Not that I'm ashamed of
56:20
anything, like any kind of fan culture I participate in, but
56:24
because it's so like, we go. To the Ren fair branch, yeah,
56:26
but. Now, but because it's so like it
56:30
is the mainstream of what everyone's reading, yeah, I
56:34
don't know. It's going to be overplayed in I
56:36
think within the next year. OK, a lot of authors are trying
56:39
to capitalize on the fact that it's popular now and are trying
56:42
to enter that space. So I've tried to become really
56:46
careful about what authors I pick up, because the last thing
56:49
I want is to pick up a shitty book and.
56:51
It's just like a cash grab and I.
56:52
Know, it's part of the exploration and what not, like
56:55
if you hear about a book that you think you might like, but I,
56:59
I don't know. I just.
57:00
I wanna not have crappy books on my bookshelf.
57:03
Is that so bad? Yeah.
57:04
Yeah. Yeah, true.
57:05
I would hate to buy. All my reading these days is on
57:08
Kindle. But to buy a book and then not
57:11
like it, Yeah, it's on your shelf forever.
57:13
I hate that. Yeah.
57:15
Donations. Donations.
57:16
Give us one more question, Jerry.
57:17
Go one. OK, it'd.
57:19
Be funny if that was the last one.
57:21
That's it for today. All right, let's see if your
57:26
favorite fantasy couple went on a double date with another book
57:31
couple. Who would it be and what chaos
57:34
would unfold? Oh my God, and.
57:37
It could be a couple, it could be characters.
57:39
We we establish that. There's a question for them to
57:41
say. I don't.
57:42
I have not read enough books to. Have multiple couples.
57:44
I feel like I'm gonna really go off like end of the aisle here
57:49
and say that I would like to see what reason Farrah are like with
57:55
Darcy and Elizabeth from Pride and Prejudice.
57:58
What? I think like I think.
58:01
Bryce and Hunt. No, if we just like we're to
58:03
pick up Reese and Farrah from Ecotar and like place them into
58:09
the Pride and Prejudice time period in.
58:11
This world, see the vision. I feel like Reese and and it's
58:17
the no, no, no, I feel like Darcy, Mr. Darcy.
58:20
I feel like they would get along, like they would play like
58:22
the my horse is bigger than your horse and like, oh, look at my
58:24
palace. And then Reese would be like,
58:26
oh, well, my palace is this. I think that they would like,
58:28
get along because they're both just like rich, sophisticated
58:32
men. And also Reese would be like,
58:35
look, I could do magic and they'd be like, whoa.
58:37
And then it would just be fun. And I feel like Farrah and like
58:39
Elizabeth have kind of a similar personality where they're both
58:42
like, they're badasses, but they're kind of subdued badasses
58:45
now where they're like established now.
58:47
They don't have to go and live in poverty anymore, you know so
58:52
so I think that that is like a similar thing.
58:54
Also there is like a Tamelin like character in Pride and
58:57
Prejudice. They.
58:58
Can all gang up so. They can, they can relate to
59:00
each other and also the sisters we.
59:02
Have a common enemy like. Elizabeth has a bunch of
59:04
sisters, the chaotic sisters, and Farrah has chaotic sisters.
59:08
Well, two sisters, right? So I think they would just like,
59:11
get along. I don't know.
59:12
It's an inkling. That's a good pairing.
59:15
I have one I thought I thought I was going to, but I do because
59:20
these book series series are so similar.
59:24
It was it would not be just like a couple.
59:26
It would be like an interaction. It would be such a good, what do
59:29
you call it cross crossover. Crossover would be the Percy
59:34
Jackson books and the Sun Bearer trial books by Aidan Thomas
59:40
because he literally described his books as like a mix of
59:43
Hunger Games and Percy Jackson. Because it's a bunch of
59:45
children, like teens that are the fight to the death and are
59:49
children of a bunch of gods, but they're like Mexican, Mayan,
59:54
Aztec, Inca inspired gods. That would be such a cool
59:58
crossover. I need to talk to Rick Riordan.
1:00:00
That's fine. And you get this in motion.
1:00:04
Put it on paper, right? Put.
1:00:05
It on paper that. 'D be so cool of like we have to
1:00:07
save the combined universe. Wow, like what's his name?
1:00:12
Who? The the author or do you want to
1:00:14
send this? Aiden and Rick.
1:00:15
Like Aiden, Rick and then slide over the packet.
1:00:18
Aiden, like you, you're. Going to want to read this.
1:00:21
Yeah, and. Inside of it, it's just a
1:00:22
threat. Like, please do this.
1:00:23
All right, we'll jump. The timer just started.
1:00:26
You have 30. Minutes.
1:00:27
To read, so no. Just pull some ideas, that's all
1:00:31
I need. Wow.
1:00:33
Wow. That was awesome.
1:00:35
I was the fly in the room for this episode and I I love it.
1:00:39
I love the dialogue y'all had. I like.
1:00:41
The club. There's literally 2 bookworms
1:00:43
just in front of me and I'm just the bird looking at.
1:00:48
I would say there's one. There's one.
1:00:50
Bookworm here. I would say I'm like a little
1:00:53
book bug I'll read sometimes. Book bug?
1:00:58
Yeah. Well, when we started book club,
1:01:00
I was also very much reading multiple books at once.
1:01:03
But then I did experience a bit of burnout, but I'm refreshed.
1:01:08
I'm not reading anything now, but I have a long list of books
1:01:10
I might kindle to read. So exciting it's.
1:01:13
Exciting. Any final thoughts?
1:01:17
How do you how do you feel after today?
1:01:19
I'm experiencing what I do every Thursday because it's not
1:01:22
Tuesday right now. Thursday Every.
1:01:24
Thursday. Well, I don't appreciate that
1:01:26
you woke me up at 3:00 in the morning for this, but other than
1:01:28
that, you gave me hot chocolate, so I did.
1:01:30
Things are pretty great I. Did.
1:01:32
Yeah. This is the first time we've had
1:01:33
a snack while recording well. I'm sure they've heard me
1:01:36
drinking my little Americano. Yeah, that was great.
1:01:39
This time there was effort put into it.
1:01:42
Wow, Jerry. 'S a chef.
1:01:43
I made hot chocolate, guys. It burned.
1:01:48
We had to scrape it off it. Was brown because it's burnt,
1:01:51
not because of the chocolate. Yeah, well, this has been really
1:01:56
fun. I appreciate you for coming.
1:01:57
I know you are a married, married woman and your husband
1:02:00
must be freaking out. Oh, I.
1:02:01
Know. But thank you for taking the
1:02:04
time to come in today. My.
1:02:05
Wife. Where's my wife?
1:02:10
I look forward to the next episode.
1:02:11
Ryan, do you want to give the people a glimpse?
1:02:15
I don't know what's happening next episode we will figure
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that. Out.
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It's a surprise. It's all planned.
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We do. Have some some some
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housekeeping. Last week we did not provide our
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listeners with a song recommendation.
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Oh. Damn, you're right.
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Get. On it, boys.
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You're part of this today, yeah. So you can give a song
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recommendation, or in lieu of a song recommendation you can give
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a book recommendation. I like that.
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I would like to. I'll do both.
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I'll do a song recommendation song in a book and a book four
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books. I'm looking at my library.
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I want you guys to read one of my favorite books of all time.
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It is. Oh my God, what's it called?
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Not you forgetting. Bro.
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OK, no, I I have the the book cover is ingrained in my memory
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forever. The it's called Aristotle and
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Dante discover it's. Secrets to the.
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Universe, if you have not read that book, please do so.
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That book was so formative to me reading it I think.
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I think I read it when I got into college.
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This was a while ago because I remember you showed us the movie
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Oh the. The movie's still good.
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The movie came out 2023, but the book originally came out in
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2012. I'm pretty sure I read this
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going into college, so this was probably one of the first like
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literary medias of of queerness that I experienced.
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Love that. Please read it.
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My favorite book. Movie's pretty good too.
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Produced by Lin Manuel Miranda. Wow, it's so.
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Interesting. Yeah, and As for song, it's
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Fernando by ABBA, cuz I've had it on repeat all day today.
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Wow. Well, I'll go next if Jerry's
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still getting ready. Yes, it's great.
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OK, so let's see. For song recommendation, I'm
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gonna do the I'm gonna Do the Hosier version of Lay Me Down,
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which is a song by Sam Smith, but Hosier covers it on the BBC
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Live Lounge. OK, deep cut.
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Is it true? This is awesome.
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Yeah, it's on Spotify. It's on Spotify now.
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Yeah. So it's the hosier.
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Lay me down. BBC Live Lounge.
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Beautiful. I love what he does with the
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song. He like, changes the arrangement
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a little bit. That's cool.
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And then for book recommendation, I'm gonna do
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like a silly like he he ha ha. Fun book.
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OK, cuz I feel like sometimes what I like to do is if I read a
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really heavy book after I like to do a palate cleanser.
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So this is one of my palate cleanser books and it was
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recommended to me by Paola. Shut up to Paola.
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It's called first time caller and it's basically like
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Sleepless in Seattle. If you've ever seen the movie
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Sleepless in Seattle, it's, it's inspired by it and it's really
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cute. Little like contemporary romance
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book, pretty short, but it's fun and it's just like a good time.
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It's not gonna stress you out and you're gonna be satisfied at
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the end. So, and let me think, I'm trying
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to find cover. Yeah, it's a cute cover.
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I'm trying to find the author. The author.
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BK, Boris BK. Boris.
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And there it is. Oh, it's new.
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Yeah, it's fairly new IT. Was an instant New York Times
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bestseller. Period.
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OK I'll keep it on my radar but I've heard too much straight
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stuff recently. When you get back to my roots.
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Put it in the comments, guys. Help Brian out.
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Yes, please. I'm gonna, I'm gonna butcher
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this. But I actually sent you this
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song earlier this week. Yes.
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Audat Audut that is the band name there Ala band AURAT.
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It is darkwave like post punkish music.
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The song name is Nazar NAZAR. If you just want a vibe in the
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car, feel dark and mysterious, play it well.
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That's. A pretty good song.
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It's a great song. Great band.
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Yeah, that is my recommendation you.
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Don't have a book recommendation?
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Pick up a newspaper, guys. Read the back of the of the of
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your soda or something once in a while.
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You know what you're drinking, you know it's important.
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Read your neighbor. You know your neighbor and cuz.
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Reading is what? Fundamental.
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I'm still reading The Lord of the Rings.
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It's just taking forever. But it's fine because I don't
1:06:33
have headphones. I can't be fully immersed in the
1:06:36
book because I don't have the audio and book.
1:06:38
I have the book, I don't have the audio playing.
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I need my headphones. Someone can buy me headphones?
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Please sponsor Jerry's headphones.
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He can't read otherwise. He can't.
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Read without my headphones, without his headphones.
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Well, it was a pleasure. Once again, thank you to seven
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time Grammy nominated New York Times bestseller for joining us.
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That's. Grammy spelled GRAHMY.
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Yeah, it's actually. So Grammy, the Grammy, the
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Grammy, but. Thank you for having me.
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This was fun of. Course.
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Where the hell you been that'll? Be $500, please.
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OK, you heard of your phone send.
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That to our agent, Yeah. And they'll work on it.
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I'll give you their PO Box. Great if you.
1:07:25
Actually, if you go out that door right now, they should be
1:07:27
out there right now so you can catch them you.
1:07:28
Can fuck them down. OK, It's that door right there.
1:07:30
Yes, and. Then when you get a little
1:07:32
further out, there's a gate past the gate, yeah.
1:07:34
Past the gate, yeah. Down the alley, yeah.
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OK. I'll be right back then, OK.
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All right. OK.
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Shit. What are we gonna do?
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Dude, I don't know. Excuse my ride home.
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Can you give me a ride home? No, I think.
1:07:44
You have to stay here. What?
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The fuck it, I'll knock out on the couch.
1:07:47
No, you knock out on the couch, I'll take your bed.
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What the fuck? Thank you.
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Bye, guys. Bye.
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Guys.