Latest / The Scene Projects / Annie Damato on Hypnotherapy, Healing Veterans, and Life After Service
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- 0:28Welcome in to another episode of Real Biz.
- 0:30I am your host Bubba Starts, and with me today from Imagination Hypnotherapy, Annie Damato.
- 0:36Annie, welcome to the show.
- 0:37Thank you, Bubba, for having us.
- 0:40It is absolutely my pleasure, introduced to you by a good mutual friend, Eric Moraine, and and
- 0:48everything that they have done for us.
- 0:50And, he actually did my, custom guitar strap that I have on there.
- 0:55So a big shout out to Matthew and his family.
- 0:57And, yeah, we miss him here in South Dakota.
- 1:01I bet.
- 1:02He's awesome.
- 1:03Yeah.
- 1:04Well, fantastic.
- 1:04I appreciate him making the connection for us here today.
- 1:08And, before we get too far into everything you're doing with the hypnotherapy, I would
- 1:11love to hear a little bit of your and and your husband's, you know, backstory, how you kinda
- 1:17got into the field, and then we can pick it up from there.
- 1:20Absolutely.
- 1:21So, so my partner, Scott Blaze, was the one that introduced me actually to the
- 1:28hypnotherapy.
- 1:29He had been practicing.
- 1:30He's been practicing for over ten years.
- 1:33And when he approached me for it, or or with it, I should say, with the business side of it,
- 1:38I found it rather interesting.
- 1:40I didn't know anything about hypnotherapy, but I've always been very open and, very consider
- 1:47myself very holistically minded.
- 1:49So it actually, you know, I have I am a big person of faith, and it was kinda dropped to me
- 1:58at a moment of time that I didn't know I was going to need it.
- 2:01I had been going through some serious health issues at the time and kinda had plateaued
- 2:09where, I had progressed, but not a 100%.
- 2:15I was probably about 70% better, but there was still that 30%, and we couldn't figure out what
- 2:22that 30% was, what was happening, what was going on.
- 2:25I had had brain surgery.
- 2:26So my prognosis, I was supposed to recover in three weeks.
- 2:32That never happened.
- 2:33I was ill for about two and a half years.
- 2:35Went through a year physical therapy and all that.
- 2:38And, you know, finally, when I started, receiving, the hip the hypnotherapy, oh my
- 2:46gosh.
- 2:47I tell you, that to me was really, I I guess, what I was needing.
- 2:52So, obviously, you know, there was something there in my subconscious mind that was, you
- 2:56know, blocking me being able to fully recover.
- 3:02So that was my first, I would say, like, my first really, not only on the from the business
- 3:10side for, you know, helping clients, but my first sense of, wow.
- 3:18There's really something else to this.
- 3:20You know?
- 3:21So, so from there, I partnered into the business, you know, helping Scott grow the
- 3:27business.
- 3:28And, you know, it was like story after story.
- 3:31People would come in from all different walks of life, all different challenges, and, you
- 3:37know, we would see them a lot of them coming in after trying, you know, many different
- 3:43modalities, being on many, different prescriptions, and still not, you know, being
- 3:49able to fully, engage in their communities, being able to live a fulfilling life.
- 3:57And I was like, oh my gosh.
- 3:58But, really, the biggest experience for me was when my son passed away.
- 4:05You know, obviously, the the grief that someone goes through when they experience something as
- 4:11traumatic as that, I can't even put it into words.
- 4:17But, thankfully, hypnotherapy had been part of my life.
- 4:23And that's when I really was like, oh my gosh.
- 4:27If I have been able to overcome and I'm you know, there's obviously, you know, instances of
- 4:33grief.
- 4:33But if I have been able to overcome this huge loss and have been able to overcome, me being
- 4:41able to overcome my illness, there is something definitely here that, you know, we need to get
- 4:50this out to the world.
- 4:52So, you know, one thing led to another.
- 4:56We created a foundation through, we kinda fell it into our lap as well.
- 5:04Someone came to us, you know, a veteran that we assisted.
- 5:09And, you know, one thing led to another where, you know, a few sessions later, he was feeling
- 5:16better.
- 5:17And we were like, oh my gosh.
- 5:19You know?
- 5:20This is a group of people, who have been struggling for many, many years.
- 5:25Right?
- 5:25They have been a lot of them have been through many different chores, within, when they were,
- 5:32in service.
- 5:32But after service, their body doesn't really it doesn't go back to the same.
- 5:42Right?
- 5:42Them being being able to reengage back in the community and society, they feel like they
- 5:48don't belong.
- 5:51They don't belong after service.
- 5:53They don't fit anywhere.
- 5:55A lot of them are suffering with hypervigilance, sleep disorders, PTSD, and, you
- 6:04know, many of them don't feel the relief.
- 6:08And, unfortunately, like you had previously mentioned, you know, many resort to there is
- 6:13nothing else for me to do here in this world, and they take their lives.
- 6:18You know?
- 6:19So, to us, that is very sad.
- 6:21But on the other on the other end, right, it's us having this tool, this ability to being able
- 6:28to offer, you know, something else, something that they can help them get unstuck.
- 6:40Right?
- 6:40Being able to live a more fulfilled life.
- 6:44Help them live a more purposeful life.
- 6:48So all those things, you know, finding the strength within because it's really we don't in
- 6:54hypnotherapy, right, it's not strength from the outside.
- 6:58We have that strength within, but the subconscious mind holds that.
- 7:06But the conscious mind is the gatekeeper.
- 7:11It's very easy to get stuck in those loops inside of our mind and forget the infinite
- 7:17power that it holds.
- 7:19And I think that hypnotherapy offers a very unique window into how little we know about,
- 7:27how the how the mind truly works, what the human is truly capable of.
- 7:33And you touched on something, with our veterans, operation combating veteran suicide
- 7:38being a a large part of my life now as well, that the sense of community and the sense of
- 7:45purpose and coming back from a unit where you are together every day with your brothers and
- 7:54sisters often away from your home and your family, your wife, children, loved ones, that
- 8:00you form those strong bonds.
- 8:02And then those people are torn away from you when the tour is over, when your service has
- 8:07ended, and you are expected to somehow go back to a person that you will never be again.
- 8:16It's impossible.
- 8:17And I would think that for most people, you're changed just by basic training.
- 8:23Right?
- 8:23Like, it's not an instance of you have to have gone and done a tour and to be overseas or to
- 8:29be in war, you're a changed person.
- 8:32And for everyone in your previous life, all, you know, be it your family members or loved
- 8:39ones to expect you to not be a changed person can make you feel even more isolated and more
- 8:47alone inside of the world.
- 8:49And I think there's a lot of education not just on the veteran side or, you know, first
- 8:56responders, I think we can kinda put into that as well, that there needs to be more there
- 9:03needs to be more communication with the loved ones of these people about what the expectation
- 9:10should be for that person.
- 9:11That person is never going to be the same coming back as they were when they left.
- 9:17You're you're going to be changed by these experiences.
- 9:21And it's very hard for people who aren't a part of that Right.
- 9:27To really understand and to respect and appreciate all of the things that our veterans,
- 9:35our first responders go through and, or anyone who's been through a traumatic experience such
- 9:41as yourself.
- 9:42I'm very sorry to hear about the loss of your son and, you know, a a brain surgery.
- 9:48Either one of those things would be the most traumatic thing for anyone, and you've had to
- 9:52deal with both of those.
- 9:54Was your son's passing away before the brain surgery?
- 9:59No.
- 9:59It was actually it was actually a few years after.
- 10:04So, you know and the fact I just wanna take a step back because the fact that I am here, you
- 10:11know, talking to you after overcoming so many and, obviously, you know, there's a lot of
- 10:16other challenges, right, that I have thankfully been able to overcome and not just survive, but
- 10:22to thrive to thrive.
- 10:25And, you know, there's a lot of people that are just surviving that are just coping right now.
- 10:32You know?
- 10:32And and here I am thriving, you know, helping others.
- 10:36And and, you know, I'm I believe that I am a true miracle, you know, that I'm here and, you
- 10:41know, and I believe that there was a purpose for that.
- 10:44There was a purpose there's a purpose that I am here.
- 10:47You know, my son, when he was alive, he suffered from anxiety, and I learned a lot from
- 10:55that from him.
- 10:59And what one of the things that I learned is that, you know what?
- 11:03It's not what they say.
- 11:06It's what they don't say Because people suffer in silence when it comes to challenges,
- 11:16emotional challenges.
- 11:17Right?
- 11:18When it comes to, you know, struggling, you know, with mental health.
- 11:23Right?
- 11:24They suffer in silence, one, because of the stigma.
- 11:42You know I mean?
- 11:45So, you know, the way I feel with what I learned my son is, you know, I hear you.
- 11:55I hear your silent cry.
- 11:59I hear you.
- 12:02And I think that silent cry is deafening, when when you can understand that.
- 12:10And it's something that as, many people who have not been through those traumatic
- 12:20experiences, they may never know.
- 12:23And, you know, talking about these things can be so powerful.
- 12:28You know, there's a reason that talk therapy and group therapy and these things and sharing
- 12:33it, you know, whether it's in a group or a one to one with someone can be so powerful.
- 12:38I think because of the digital era we live in that people are so disconnected from one
- 12:43another that it exacerbates the problem as well.
- 12:46People don't communicate face to face.
- 12:48I think there's a massive communication problem.
- 12:51But there's some things that you would never want to tell another human being.
- 12:55And I think especially for our for our veterans, for people who have maybe had to do
- 13:00things that they don't want to remember, that's where hypnotherapy can be a powerful, powerful
- 13:07tool because it allows the conscious mind to get out of the way.
- 13:11And for these subconscious, feelings and for them to be expressed and to be expressed in a
- 13:20way that you don't need to be fully aware of them and to get them out so that they can be
- 13:26expressed.
- 13:26I've seen, I'm a talker if you can't tell, Annie.
- 13:31And I, I've seen a huge benefit to myself in having this podcast because I'm able to tell
- 13:39these stories that I was holding and stories that I was telling not just to myself but to
- 13:44others over and over and over again.
- 13:47And I wasn't allowing myself to accept things and to move on.
- 13:51And I've seen how much my podcast has been a help to me personally to now leave those on the
- 14:00tape and and to walk away from them and to not have to tell those stories anymore.
- 14:05And I think that's a powerful thing unto itself.
- 14:08It's a reason that with our housing units, we'll be building with operation combating
- 14:13veteran suicide that having a podcast studio inside of each one of these units is going to
- 14:19be so important For veterans to communicate with other veterans that have been through, you
- 14:25know, maybe not the same situations, but can understand the situations that each have been
- 14:30under.
- 14:31And things like hypnotherapy and having access to them is so important in this, you know, this
- 14:39mission that we hold very dear to our hearts to reduce the twenty two veterans a day that are
- 14:44taking their lives, by doing something about it, by being there for them, by seeing and
- 14:51hearing these individuals, by sharing their stories if it's behind closed doors or onto a a
- 14:57podcast where it can help other people.
- 15:00I think that giving them a purpose to help others is so critical because getting out of
- 15:06the military and ending their service to their country, they feel like their purpose is over
- 15:12in life.
- 15:13And they find it very hard to move into civilian life and to just be another face in
- 15:18the crowd.
- 15:20Absolutely.
- 15:21Yeah.
- 15:21Well, you know what?
- 15:22When that uniform, their uniform comes off, you know, and their call is over, right, that
- 15:28weight is carried home, unfortunately.
- 15:34And where it can start to express itself in a multitude of other things, substance abuse or
- 15:39physical abuse towards loved ones, emotional abuse, or the silence that we talked so much
- 15:45about today?
- 15:47Absolutely.
- 15:48Absolutely.
- 15:49Yeah.
- 15:50I mean, you know, we develop as human beings.
- 15:54Right?
- 15:54We develop these coping mechanisms and we resort to certain things just as you said.
- 15:59Right?
- 16:00You know?
- 16:00Whether it be alcohol, drugs, whatever it may be, you know, that's just a short, very brief,
- 16:09you know, let me let me try to manage what I'm feeling.
- 16:14Right?
- 16:16No.
- 16:16And as someone who has experienced substance abuse and has experienced, you know,
- 16:22homelessness and in some degrees, hopelessness, you know, doing two years in prison, you know,
- 16:28living for a year in Mexico on the run before prison.
- 16:32Right?
- 16:32Like, I've put myself into some absolutely stressful and traumatic situations.
- 16:39You know, I I wasn't commanded to do those things.
- 16:43I I definitely made my own choices in that.
- 16:45But, I I understand what they've been through.
- 16:49I understand the institutionalization of someone who is in the military.
- 16:53Prison can be much in the same way, a very regimented and structured operation.
- 16:59And people who are very comfortable inside of that once they're put back out into the world
- 17:04in something that isn't structured and can be a bit chaotic, it starts to really, become
- 17:11stressful and to make someone anxious and to change who they are as a person.
- 17:17Absolutely.
- 17:18Yeah.
- 17:18And, you know, one of the things that I experienced after, you know, being sick for a
- 17:24while as I had previously mentioned and then, you know, feeling better, you know, one side
- 17:31because there was a lot of brain fog.
- 17:33You know, it had been brain surgery, so I went I underwent a lot of brain fog.
- 17:38But when I was filing finally feeling better and I looked around, it almost seemed like I
- 17:45had been in, like, a kinda like a time warp, because it was I remember, like, I still had
- 17:54Christmas decorations.
- 17:58And when I kinda, like, you know, was feeling better and I looked around, it was almost
- 18:06summer.
- 18:06It had been, you know, just the end of spring.
- 18:09And here, you know, a couple years later, I still had Christmas decorations up.
- 18:13And it wasn't it was because I was ill, and I wasn't able to, you know, put things away and
- 18:19all that.
- 18:19So it almost seemed like I felt like, wow.
- 18:26Society has moved on, and here I am.
- 18:30I felt like I was left behind.
- 18:33You know?
- 18:33And it took me a little bit of time to reintegrate, you know, that feeling.
- 18:38So I bet that's what a lot of people, you know, who come back from service, right, who get out
- 18:45of jail.
- 18:46That may be what they feel when they come back home.
- 18:50It doesn't feel like home anymore.
- 18:52It feels like they were left behind somewhere.
- 18:56Right?
- 18:57And the and the world has moved on.
- 19:01No.
- 19:01And that can be a very isolating and, an awful feeling to come back to.
- 19:08And I don't think that it's something that you can mentally prepare for, you know, for for
- 19:14veterans who go overseas, have young children to leave and come back.
- 19:18And now that child is, you know, years older, especially with very young children, there's a
- 19:24lot of changes that happen.
- 19:25Having that child not be comfortable around you because they don't really know who you are,
- 19:30that can be very traumatic to a young parent.
- 19:34And I think that we need to, you know, address the fact that a lot of these people are very
- 19:39young people that are going to war in their, you know, early twenties or even yet teenagers.
- 19:45They aren't truly fully developed as human beings at both in the mental and the physical.
- 19:51So to expect them to take on so much is, really tough.
- 19:57And, obviously, with the status of the, you know, veteran affairs, and I know that there's
- 20:03some really great people in there on the ground that are doing great things.
- 20:07At the top of it, the bureaucracy and the, the systems are extremely broken.
- 20:13And we could be doing so much better for these, which I think is why you find yourself now,
- 20:20working with the foundation you mentioned earlier and doing the work that you're doing to
- 20:25bring these services to the veterans directly and making those things available.
- 20:32Are you able to share some more about the foundation and everything that you guys are
- 20:35doing with them and separately before I let you go today?
- 20:39Absolutely.
- 20:40Yep.
- 20:40So our foundation is After the Action Healing Foundation and it is a nonprofit foundation,
- 20:47you know, that is dedicated to provide to providing trauma informed clinical health
- 20:52sorry, clinical hypnotherapy for veterans and retired law enforcement.
- 20:59You know?
- 20:59So we exist for the moments after service ends, when that uniform comes off, when the call is
- 21:05over, and that wait is still carried home.
- 21:10Our mission is to offer safe, respectful path to healing that honors strength, protects
- 21:16dignity, and helps those who served, reclaim their peace, and control beyond survival.
- 21:27Our website is aftertheaction.org, and our phone number is 757703, 2236.
- 21:42And, again, my name is Annie Damato, and my partner is Scott Blaze.
- 21:46And we have numerous other hypnotherapists as well, waiting to serve.
- 21:54There is a need.
- 21:57But we are also obviously, you know, we also rely you know, the support of the community to
- 22:03help.
- 22:04We do have, obviously, we do accept contributions, and we do have, apparel that we
- 22:11also, you know, sell to help provide the care that these, veterans and retired law
- 22:18enforcement, officers need to be able to live a more fulfilled, more happier life, reintegrated
- 22:27back into their community with their families and, you know, moving forward.
- 22:35Annie, it's been absolutely wonderful to meet you today to learn more about imagination
- 22:40hypnotherapy and after action.
- 22:44I hope you can stick around for a few minutes with me, after the show, and we can talk some
- 22:48more about how we can all work together with operation combating veteran suicide and the
- 22:53scene projects and after the action to do more to help our veterans and first responders in
- 23:00their darkest moments and to return to the light.
- 23:04Thank you so much.
- 23:05Thank you so much for having me.
- 23:08Thank you to the listeners, and, we're here to help any way we can.
- 23:14Thank you.
- 23:16Annie, thank you for spending some time with me today, and thank you for being part of the
- 23:20scene.
- 23:21My pleasure.
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