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From the archives: Gunny Sodhi. Ayurveda & A Journey of Healing · The Trauma Therapist

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Speaker 5: So five four three two and one, our folks, welcome
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Speaker 5: back to the Trauma Papers Podcast. I am very excited
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Speaker 5: that happens. My guest today, Guni Sodi GOONI welcome.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thank you
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Speaker 4: so much for having me guy. It's it's fantastic. So,
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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't I can't wait to get started.
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Speaker 3: All right, man.
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Speaker 5: So Gudi's family roots in Arabdic medicine stretch across generations,
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Speaker 5: but he didn't personally understand the power of ariveda until
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Speaker 5: tragedy struck. Sudden death of his sixteen year old brother
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Speaker 5: completely changed the course of his life, setting him on
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Speaker 5: an unexpected path of self discovery. Following his brother's passing,
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Speaker 5: Gooni was consumed by debilitating panic attacks and bouts of
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Speaker 5: deep depression. It's diagnosed with PTSD and desperate for relief,
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Speaker 5: he found no comfort in traditional Western therapy.
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Speaker 3: Basically, he was lost.
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Speaker 5: It was at that point that he would rediscover his
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Speaker 5: roots on the advice of his family.
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Speaker 3: Now correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't your father it was?
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Speaker 4: It was my father yet, okay.
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Speaker 5: He began supplementing his diet with as gananda and other
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Speaker 5: times test diabetic remedies. Meditation and yoga became daily practices.
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Speaker 5: Within six weeks, his anxiety faded and his depression lifted.
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Speaker 5: All right, obviously, just a little bit about you. But
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Speaker 5: before we get going, share with the listeners, going to
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Speaker 5: where you're from originally and where you're currently calling from,
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Speaker 5: and then we'll dive in.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely originally I mean I was born in India, Northern India,
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Speaker 4: in Punjab. I grew up for a majority of my
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Speaker 4: life in Seattle, Washington, and now I am in Dallas, Texas.
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Speaker 4: I guess I'm here for more sunshine Seattle. Seattle's a
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Speaker 4: beautiful place, but not as much sun.
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Speaker 3: Right right right, all right?
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Speaker 5: So let's you know, one of the things that really
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Speaker 5: kind of inspired me after I read your bio was,
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Speaker 5: you know, it's one thing to have an experience and
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Speaker 5: even to have trauma, but it's another thing to then
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Speaker 5: move take another step and begin creating something and you
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Speaker 5: using that to help people. So I guess I'm really
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Speaker 5: curious how things unfolded for you after your brother's passing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so absolutely, I mean I actually appreciate you kind
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Speaker 4: of walking the listeners to this step because you know,
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Speaker 4: it does help to understand the story. But yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 4: in two thousand and six, my younger brother passed away
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Speaker 4: in a car accident, And I just want to start
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Speaker 4: out with the listeners by saying, kind of society or
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Speaker 4: we are programmed as human beings to understand and fathom
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Speaker 4: the fact that our grandparents will be the first ones
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Speaker 4: to go eventually, then our parents, then us and then
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Speaker 4: the younger one. But what happens in life as we
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Speaker 4: call it, you know, life, what happens when your youngest
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Speaker 4: brother passes and your grandmother is still alive mourning the
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Speaker 4: loss of her grandson, your mother who's had him in you.
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Speaker 4: There's no manual or there's no normal psychological system that
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Speaker 4: can get you or prepare you for that moment when
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Speaker 4: that is reversed. So when that happened, you know, in
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Speaker 4: that time when when we knew my brother, younger brother's
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Speaker 4: name was Rishie in two thousand and six, he is
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Speaker 4: a car accident. He passed in that time when he passed,
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Speaker 4: when we were doing the funerals, the last writes, what
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Speaker 4: I did was I totally went against my body's natural
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Speaker 4: ability and natural process to grieve. Somebody had given me,
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Speaker 4: and well advice, I mean, it's it's advice that I misinterpreted.
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Speaker 4: Now when I hear it, and I hear I see
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Speaker 4: a lot of people misinterpreting it. And that is the
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Speaker 4: advice guy that I'm sure you've heard of. You know what,
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Speaker 4: Maybe you've told people, maybe you've shared it, maybe you've
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Speaker 4: seen it. Be strong, Okay, it's okay. Be strong. Now
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Speaker 4: me being the oldest one and the only son now
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Speaker 4: of view of my mother and father, he strong to
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Speaker 4: me meant that Oh my god, I cannot show my emotions.
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Speaker 4: I cannot cry. I have to be this boulder for
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Speaker 4: not only my parents, but for every other person, my cousins,
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Speaker 4: my uncles, my friends. And I'll tell you one thing
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Speaker 4: that is the now that I look back at it,
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Speaker 4: and again from my own experience, I talk about from
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Speaker 4: my own experience, that is the worst interpretation of that advice,
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Speaker 4: meaningful advice that I could have done. All that did
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Speaker 4: was it held up my emotions. It pent them up.
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Speaker 4: Emotions come up, meant to be felt. Okay, they're coming up.
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Speaker 4: They want to be felt. Grieving is a natural problem.
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Speaker 4: My brother, the younger brother, just passed away. But what
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Speaker 4: do you expect me to do? Be a rock? I mean,
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Speaker 4: you got to grieve, right, And when I did that,
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Speaker 4: the energetic patterns it kept on wanting to come up
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Speaker 4: and be felt, to cry and everything like that. It
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Speaker 4: kept building and building and building, and I kept pushing
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Speaker 4: it down, and as you know, what you resist persists, right,
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Speaker 4: So eventually.
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Speaker 3: For a second, So you were in college at this time.
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Speaker 4: I was in college. Yes, yes, I was twenty one,
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Speaker 4: twenty two. Yeah, I was in college at this time.
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Speaker 4: And we had five years five year gap. So he
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Speaker 4: was sixteen years old. Yeah, so twenty one years old,
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Speaker 4: and yeah, I was in college and what are you
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Speaker 4: doing back day in the college. I mean I was
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Speaker 4: literally on the phone with him saying, Hey, come over
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Speaker 4: to our place. We're gonna hang out. I mean, you
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Speaker 4: know the thing that sixteen and twenty one year olds do, right,
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Speaker 4: I mean, we're all there, so and yes, it's when
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Speaker 4: that happened. And when through the whole funeral, the whole
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Speaker 4: last rites. I mean I could I could tell you that, Yes,
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Speaker 4: I went on. I went on during this funeral and
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Speaker 4: I said something I cannot recall what I said from
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Speaker 4: the moment when his accident happened to kind of when
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Speaker 4: we went to India and back and everything. It was
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Speaker 4: almost like I was somebody was holding my hand the
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Speaker 4: whole time and guiding me to that. Not literally, but
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Speaker 4: it felt like that. It was like I was a zombie,
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Speaker 4: emotionless and didn't know what was going on. And it
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Speaker 4: you know, when we're cremating, I remember pushing that button. Guy,
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Speaker 4: I somebody literally had to take my thumb and push
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Speaker 4: the button for the cremation, just because I was like,
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Speaker 4: this isn't happening. What the heck's going on? How on
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Speaker 4: earth are we doing this? He's sixteen, he barely saw
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Speaker 4: any life. And from that point on, when we got
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Speaker 4: back to six months later, when I finally wanted to
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Speaker 4: move on with my life, just my body and minds,
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Speaker 4: intelligence had had it enough. They're like, hey, look, you
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Speaker 4: did not grieve. The energy is trapped in your bodies
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Speaker 4: and it's got to be expressed somehow. Energy's neither created
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Speaker 4: nor destroyed, right, just moves from one place.
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Speaker 3: To the other.
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Speaker 4: So what ended up showing up was deep bouts of anxiety.
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about life altering anxiety, super fearful, just felt
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Speaker 4: like all all sorts of things were wrong with me.
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Speaker 4: Depression to the point where I didn't want to get
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Speaker 4: out of bed, suicidal thoughts, all that like deep dark place,
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Speaker 4: and this began to take over my life. I had
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Speaker 4: to drop a quarter of school A quarter, yeah, a
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Speaker 4: quarter in school. I didn't do the things I used to.
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Speaker 4: I stopped being the person I was. I stopped, you know, enjoying,
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Speaker 4: getting up, laughing like I used to. And going back
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Speaker 4: to your point, guy, it's what I called now the
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Speaker 4: pain change principle. It's I mean, I just call it
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Speaker 4: just because I think it makes sense for me. I'm
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Speaker 4: sure there's better ways to better things to say it.
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Speaker 4: But what it meant for me was I got to
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Speaker 4: the point where I was so sick and tired of
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Speaker 4: feeling the way. I was so sick and tired that
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Speaker 4: I made a decision that I know life is not
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Speaker 4: supposed to be like this. There has there's others that
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Speaker 4: have been through this, others that have gone through this
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Speaker 4: that have been able to get out. They're living their
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Speaker 4: lives or moving on. And honestly, truthfully, my brother would
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Speaker 4: not want to see me like this. And that is
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Speaker 4: when what's interesting is I went to my dad. My
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Speaker 4: dad is a doctor. He's an ioretic and natropathic doctor.
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Speaker 4: He was seeing this, but he said, look, I've waited
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Speaker 4: for you to come to me instead of me going
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Speaker 4: to you, because I know that when you come to me,
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Speaker 4: you actually want to change, you know, he said, He goes, Look,
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Speaker 4: I know you weren't in a good state, but obviously
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Speaker 4: if you would have gone a lot more, you know,
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Speaker 4: I would have interfered. And you know, it's it's not
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Speaker 4: fair to say that he wasn't interfering, you know, He
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Speaker 4: was telling me, hey, hey, it's okay, do this. Let's
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Speaker 4: start this. I didn't take it seriously because I wasn't
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Speaker 4: at that point where I was sick and tired of
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Speaker 4: being sick and tired. As soon as I went there,
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Speaker 4: you know, he's like, okay, hey, look this is what happened.
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Speaker 4: You have PTSD. PTSD brings all these other symptoms. And
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Speaker 4: for people that maybe the acronymy in a post traumatic
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Speaker 4: stress disorder, and it comes when you have an extremely
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Speaker 4: traumatic event happen. You don't have the time to process it,
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Speaker 4: or your mind doesn't know how to process it, and
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Speaker 4: it's stuck at a very subconscious level and it keeps
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Speaker 4: spinning and spinning and spinning. And I'm I mean, you
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Speaker 4: know this, right, guy? And so that event had caused
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Speaker 4: all these other symptoms in me. But it was when
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Speaker 4: that moment when I realized what he was talking about.
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Speaker 4: So A it was important to diagnose me correctly because
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Speaker 4: then I would stop searching for what's.
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Speaker 3: Wrong and then seen a therapist or other.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I did, I saw a therapist. I went to
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Speaker 4: almost everybody and everything you could think of. And there's
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Speaker 4: certain things about that about that process that our counterintuitive.
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Speaker 4: Actually in a way you want. You want to tell
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Speaker 4: your mind in a your veda, what it starts in
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Speaker 4: the mind. Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, the
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Speaker 4: body follows. Right. So in your mind, I'm telling myself
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Speaker 4: I want to get better. But then again, I'm going
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Speaker 4: to this person and this person and this person, trying
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Speaker 4: to fix the thing that I want to improve, but
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Speaker 4: not really having this path of Okay, hey, this is
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Speaker 4: what's wrong and this is what I need to do.
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Speaker 4: So going to multiple things actually worked against me. But yes,
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Speaker 4: I went to therapy. And again I have nothing against
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Speaker 4: therapy I mean it works, it works wonder for people
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Speaker 4: that I know. In my situation where I was, that
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Speaker 4: was not the thing for me, and I had tried it,
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Speaker 4: I had done it multiple times, and I was not
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Speaker 4: making any progress, to be honest, and it was. It
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Speaker 4: wasn't until I got control of my own mind and
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Speaker 4: I understood what was going on. And for your listeners, guy,
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Speaker 4: I got this advice from my father, I got this
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Speaker 4: advice from two other people near and dear, and they said, look,
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Speaker 4: nobody can make the change for you. Only you can.
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Speaker 4: And when I was in that state, I hated hearing that,
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Speaker 4: because when you're in that state, you're like, no, I
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Speaker 4: can take this, or I can go to this person
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Speaker 4: and he'll help me, or this this person will help me,
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Speaker 4: this thing will help me, this thing, and no, it's
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Speaker 4: so true. Only you can. And even for the people
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Speaker 4: that are listening, don't take that as oh my god, hopelessness.
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Speaker 4: Don't take that as power, extreme power. That If your
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Speaker 4: same body mind can get you in the state that
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Speaker 4: I was, why can't that same body mind take you
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Speaker 4: out of it? Why not? That's where you should start.
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Speaker 4: And that's kind of what I did. So we went
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Speaker 4: in there. He told me this protocol. He told me like, hey,
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Speaker 4: first of all, we're going to have you understand the
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Speaker 4: grieving process. It's okay to cry. I started developing a
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Speaker 4: different relationship with my emotions. This was my dad. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I started developing a different relationship with my emotions. I
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Speaker 4: started journaling, I started kind of sharing with my family more.
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Speaker 4: We started, you know, started crying openly, letting a little
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Speaker 4: bit of the release started happening. Started incorporating a different diet.
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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't really watch my diet back then. More,
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Speaker 4: you know, organic lean in seasoned fruits and vegetables and
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Speaker 4: some meats and that were that were you know, he
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Speaker 4: was okay with, and then herbs such as ushwa gun
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Speaker 4: that which is an adaptagen basically ushagun. The adaptagen means
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Speaker 4: that it helps the body adapt to stress. That's its job,
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Speaker 4: and it works with your cortisol levels and your adrenals.
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Speaker 4: Your cortisol is supposed to be highest in the morning
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Speaker 4: because naturally, you know, when you wake up, let's get going,
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Speaker 4: come on, let's get on with our day. And it's
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Speaker 4: supposed to wean off in the evening ready for bed.
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Speaker 4: My cortisol and my adrenals were off whack because, as
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Speaker 4: you can see, when you're stuck in a fight or
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Speaker 4: flight mode, the body, although it wants to calm down,
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Speaker 4: the mind doesn't let it. So ushrogun that goes in.
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Speaker 4: It helps the body adapt to stress. It basically says, okay, hey,
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Speaker 4: hold on, your cortisol adrenals are too high. Let's bring
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Speaker 4: it back down. Or wait, you're too low, let's bring
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Speaker 4: it up. It literally helps a body adapt to stress.
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Speaker 4: I started doing that, and I'll be honest with you guy,
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Speaker 4: for the first two weeks, no changes, none, But again
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Speaker 4: I was at that pain change principle, where I was like,
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Speaker 4: I know this works, and I would rather do it
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Speaker 4: naturally than to be honest. Again, I have nothing against
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Speaker 4: prescriptions as well, but when I read the first side
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Speaker 4: effect that prescription medications of anti anxiety antidepression were, that
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Speaker 4: scared the heck out of me. I mean increase.
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Speaker 3: You said your.
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Speaker 5: Father father was a nudropathic medicine, so you had some
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Speaker 5: understanding or perhaps a lot of understanding of iorebetic medicine.
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Speaker 5: I did, what was okay, So your dad comes here,
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Speaker 5: you go to your dad.
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Speaker 3: What was your relationship like with your dad?
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Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like it was a pretty good relationship.
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Speaker 4: It's a really good I still remember. It was a
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Speaker 4: Saturday morning. I had tried to live my life normally
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Speaker 4: I went out with friends, but I was miserable. It
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Speaker 4: was I went out just to go out, just to
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Speaker 4: show my face. I went, I came, I woke up
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Speaker 4: Saturday morning feeling I mean, it's just I wouldn't wish
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Speaker 4: out on anybody. It was feeling disgusting, horrible, Like it's
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Speaker 4: just you come to the point where you know you
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Speaker 4: don't want to wake up. You're like shit, I I'd rather,
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Speaker 4: excuse my language, I'd rather still be asleep, you know,
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Speaker 4: than feel like this. And I saw him in his
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Speaker 4: office and I said, Dad, I feel like crap. Please
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Speaker 4: help me, like literally to the point of tears. And yeah,
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Speaker 4: I had a wonderful relationship with my dad. I mean
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Speaker 4: he's taught me so much. I mean he's you know,
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Speaker 4: he's my hero. I mean he's seen over half a
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Speaker 4: million patients in his life and he's treating him through
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Speaker 4: are veda and naturopathy and now he's focusing on treating oncology,
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Speaker 4: you know, patients through this and he's just amazing what
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Speaker 4: he does. But I've clearly been exposed. I've been into
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Speaker 4: his office. I've seen how he's changed lives. I've seen
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Speaker 4: the habits that he brought home that I took. You know,
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Speaker 4: I was exposed to meditation and yoga at six years old.
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Speaker 4: I was exposed to kitch at six seven years old,
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Speaker 4: eating organic, going into nature, you know, learning about the universe,
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Speaker 4: eating cooking foods in house. I was exposed to that.
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Speaker 4: But the interesting thing was it didn't manifest from me
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Speaker 4: and the way it did after my brother passed away
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Speaker 4: and I took it seriously until then. So it's like
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Speaker 4: the Steve Jobs quote. You can't connect the dots looking forward,
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Speaker 4: you can only do it looking backwards. And now I
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Speaker 4: do it. I'm like I had little teasers of it.
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Speaker 4: I just didn't make it into a lifestyle.
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Speaker 3: So you go to your dad.
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Speaker 5: You ready, he puts you on this protocol, which included.
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Speaker 4: Ganda ashoganda ashwaganda.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, two weeks in, nothing's going on.
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Speaker 3: What happens?
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Speaker 4: So two weeks in, really nothing's going on, and he
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Speaker 4: tells me, he goes, be patient, be patient. He goes,
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Speaker 4: even if you were to take the prescription medication, they
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Speaker 4: take four to six weeks just for those to work
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Speaker 4: as well. He goes, exercise gets results sooner than that.
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Speaker 4: And I kept listening to him. I had faith in
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Speaker 4: that situation, you have one of two things. You have
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Speaker 4: hope or you have faith and one or the other
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Speaker 4: as well. And I had faith, had faith in my dad.
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Speaker 4: I had nothing else to do. I tried everything else,
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Speaker 4: you know, I was like, shoot, this gotta work. Week
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Speaker 4: three feel better than three and a half. Four weeks.
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Speaker 4: I'm at this event and all of a sudden, I'm
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Speaker 4: so lost into what I'm doing and then I step back,
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Speaker 4: and when you're in this state, it's interesting your mind
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Speaker 4: is always doing this, how are you feeling, How are
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Speaker 4: you feeling? How are you feeling? The kind of thing,
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Speaker 4: and even that is very going against the healing process.
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Speaker 4: But as soon as I realized at this event, my
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Speaker 4: body does that or my mind, and the data that
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Speaker 4: comes back to me is like, holy crap, I'm feeling fine.
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Speaker 4: Oh my god. And I will tell you guy, when
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Speaker 4: you're in that state, there's nothing more beautiful, amazing than
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Speaker 4: just feeling fine.
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Speaker 5: It's exciting. I'm excited about it, and you'll also help
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Speaker 5: support the podcast. Thank you so much for being a listener.
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Speaker 3: Take care.
18:42
Speaker 4: And that's when I knew that, Oh my goodness, this
18:45
Speaker 4: is working. It's amazing. Now after that moment, did I
18:49
Speaker 4: just immediately just feel fine again? No, some remnants of
18:54
Speaker 4: it came up. But what was shown to my mind
18:58
Speaker 4: and what was kind of how the amigdal played into it,
19:00
Speaker 4: is like, hey, hold on, you don't need to be
19:02
Speaker 4: so scared anymore, or fearful or all these things. And
19:05
Speaker 4: it leveled started leveling down, and it's almost like a
19:09
Speaker 4: snowball effect, right, Some of it comes up, but then
19:11
Speaker 4: you know what to do get right back on track.
19:14
Speaker 4: And as more and more I did it. Within four
19:17
Speaker 4: and a half, five weeks, six weeks, I was completely
19:20
Speaker 4: back to normal, like completely back, like it was gone.
19:23
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like how I'm talking to you now, right,
19:25
Speaker 4: And so that's what the process was. But I remember
19:29
Speaker 4: that moment. I remember the moment when I went to
19:30
Speaker 4: my dad, and I remember that moment that light went off.
19:33
Speaker 4: It was like it was literally like you know how
19:35
Speaker 4: you sometimes hear people other people describing the heaviness lifted,
19:38
Speaker 4: the clouds faded, and you were back almost within your body.
19:42
Speaker 4: So that's what it was like for me.
19:44
Speaker 5: And concurrent with this, were you quote unquote grieving in
19:48
Speaker 5: a different way or finally for yourself?
19:51
Speaker 4: I was.
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Speaker 1: I was.
19:52
Speaker 4: I was grieving with the family, you know, for the
19:55
Speaker 4: first time they said, hey, cry, it's okay to cry.
19:58
Speaker 4: I was crying in front of them. I was journaling.
20:00
Speaker 4: I was doing a lot of meditation as well, so
20:02
Speaker 4: meditation would naturally bring up these things. And my dad
20:05
Speaker 4: taught me he goes, emotions are here, their energy, emotion,
20:09
Speaker 4: energy and motion. Emotions are meant to be felt. And
20:12
Speaker 4: what's interesting is I want to also let your listeners know.
20:15
Speaker 4: The true strength, guys comes in being able to feel
20:18
Speaker 4: these emotions and be like the sky. Clouds pass, but
20:23
Speaker 4: clouds don't interrupt the sky. And that's the hard part
20:26
Speaker 4: is most people don't want to feel those emotions. Even
20:29
Speaker 4: when I was in these being strong phase, I believe
20:34
Speaker 4: I have a different relationship. Back then, I didn't want
20:36
Speaker 4: to feel the emotions. It didn't feel good to feel that.
20:40
Speaker 4: But now I realize that that is the process you
20:45
Speaker 4: have to otherwise those emotions are going to consume you
20:48
Speaker 4: when you and I'm not saying to most people it's like, oh, well, okay, yeah,
20:52
Speaker 4: is it just once or twice? No, you may have
20:55
Speaker 4: to feel it many times, or you may just have
20:58
Speaker 4: to feel it once. It just depends. The true strength
21:01
Speaker 4: comes in that, and that is power because emotions are
21:04
Speaker 4: like that. I mean, we can't be most of us
21:06
Speaker 4: are not happy forever, truly, not sad forever, not angry forever.
21:12
Speaker 4: So again, we're doing it naturally. But when you're stuck
21:16
Speaker 4: in that situation, maybe make it more intentional and become
21:20
Speaker 4: more focused on Hey, emotions come up, I can feel them.
21:23
Speaker 4: It's going to be a rocky ride. For a little bit,
21:25
Speaker 4: but then I'll come back to this the state, you know, so.
21:30
Speaker 3: I begin to feel better, get better.
21:34
Speaker 5: How does how do things unfold for you and such
21:40
Speaker 5: that you begin to create uvida.
21:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what's amazing is I felt great and I
21:49
Speaker 4: was like, this is amazing, like my own body, my
21:52
Speaker 4: own intelligence, was able to do this and in this structure,
21:57
Speaker 4: Like how cool would it be? And I've always had
22:00
Speaker 4: an entrepreneurial mind, even like you know, before my brother pasts,
22:02
Speaker 4: I've always been kind of an entrepreneurial heart and always
22:05
Speaker 4: be somebody I believe that somebody that I like to
22:08
Speaker 4: help people, you know, I think it's just my my
22:11
Speaker 4: perhaps one of the nurturing things that I like to
22:13
Speaker 4: I just like to help people. It feels amazing, it
22:16
Speaker 4: feels good. And I've always I was like, how cool
22:20
Speaker 4: would it be to start this and be able to
22:23
Speaker 4: help people, but help people in a structured manner, you know,
22:27
Speaker 4: and produce some of the best quality products. So I
22:30
Speaker 4: had experience working at my dad's company, and they do
22:33
Speaker 4: mostly sales to practitioners and doctors, but I was like,
22:37
Speaker 4: there's a huge opportunity to go directly to the consumers
22:40
Speaker 4: form this direct relationship because once you ship the products
22:42
Speaker 4: of the doctors, I mean that's kind of it. You know,
22:46
Speaker 4: you know your doctor. Your products work because people are
22:48
Speaker 4: buying it over and over again. But with the consumers,
22:50
Speaker 4: more education is required, much more of that touch point,
22:54
Speaker 4: and that's what I wanted to create. I love that community.
22:56
Speaker 4: I loved having that that really kind of you know,
22:59
Speaker 4: knowledge center type thing to it. And then also going
23:02
Speaker 4: to the customers. I believe there was an opportunity for
23:05
Speaker 4: ir Veda to be simplified and do so in a
23:09
Speaker 4: manner that's easy to do, structured, but then it's not
23:12
Speaker 4: just about supplements, but it's about your lifestyle as well.
23:14
Speaker 4: And that kind of inspired me to along with my
23:17
Speaker 4: wife who's also the co founder, to start Uveda. And
23:20
Speaker 4: of course, you know my dad encouraged me and helped
23:22
Speaker 4: me out as well. But that's kind of in. Our
23:26
Speaker 4: whole vision is to create a healthier, happier world using
23:29
Speaker 4: the intelligence of other nature. And in one of the formulations,
23:32
Speaker 4: Euveda is my healthy mood. We have ushwagandha. But not
23:35
Speaker 4: only that, I mean we've refined it to where it's
23:38
Speaker 4: such an amazing formula. It has the kopa, which helps
23:40
Speaker 4: the brain focus because when you're in that state, the
23:43
Speaker 4: brain is not focusing, so it helps you focus memory retention.
23:46
Speaker 4: It has saffron, which is also very moodlifting. It has
23:49
Speaker 4: shila jit which helps assimilate. It helps create more of
23:52
Speaker 4: the nutrients that are in the herbs and assimilate it
23:55
Speaker 4: more into the body. And then we take the ancient
23:59
Speaker 4: principle of irvada all the herbs, but then also modernize
24:02
Speaker 4: it with adding some of the best food create multi
24:04
Speaker 4: vitem and there is you know, so and this formula
24:06
Speaker 4: is combined and it's available and it's actually one of
24:08
Speaker 4: our best sellers. People do find the relief for mood
24:12
Speaker 4: disorders and overactive mind and sleep. So you know, that's
24:16
Speaker 4: what kind of inspired me. But one of the things
24:18
Speaker 4: that I love is being able to come on podcasts
24:21
Speaker 4: such as yours and share this story and hopefully inspire,
24:24
Speaker 4: you know, somebody that's in that state, because I know
24:27
Speaker 4: when I was there, I was looking And I really
24:31
Speaker 4: hope that, you know, for the people that need it,
24:33
Speaker 4: they get the advice they need, they perhaps listen to
24:36
Speaker 4: this and they implement the work is really still up
24:38
Speaker 4: to them.
24:39
Speaker 5: Right right, Yeah, I mean you know, when I asked
24:41
Speaker 5: you if you'd seen a therapist, I wasn't implying that
24:45
Speaker 5: you should have seen a therapist, because I believe everyone
24:48
Speaker 5: you know has their own healing journey in a sense
24:50
Speaker 5: which could or you know, not include traditional therapy or therapy.
24:58
Speaker 5: Were you still in school when you started this?
25:04
Speaker 4: I was doing my and I was completing my MBA,
25:08
Speaker 4: So I didn't start Uveda for a little bit a
25:11
Speaker 4: while after my brother. I was still I was still
25:15
Speaker 4: working with my dad's company, learning more learning the industry.
25:18
Speaker 4: Evada started company.
25:20
Speaker 3: He's a physician and also has a company.
25:21
Speaker 4: What yeah, so he he has he has a separate
25:25
Speaker 4: company totally separate from Euveda, and he's been in the
25:29
Speaker 4: in the supplement space as well, but he deals primarily
25:31
Speaker 4: with doctors. So I learned a lot from from their
25:34
Speaker 4: manufacturing standards. How do you produce the best quality stuff? Sourcing?
25:38
Speaker 4: Which all mattered to me because what's what's what's super
25:41
Speaker 4: important with Youveda is if you if I can tell
25:44
Speaker 4: you where this herb was produced, in what condition, by who,
25:48
Speaker 4: I can give you all the test resports. And we
25:51
Speaker 4: want to make the highest quality products, you know, I
25:53
Speaker 4: mean with with how supplement industry is, and especially with
25:56
Speaker 4: with what's been said about uh the herbs coming in. Oh,
26:00
Speaker 4: they're filled with heavy metals. They got this. You can't
26:03
Speaker 4: trust the supplements.
26:04
Speaker 2: No.
26:04
Speaker 4: I mean, it's true there are a lot of bad players,
26:07
Speaker 4: but then there's a lot of good people there that
26:09
Speaker 4: do the right thing, that are spending the extra money
26:11
Speaker 4: for the extra testing, that are going the extra mile
26:13
Speaker 4: to work with the right suppliers. So I've been in
26:16
Speaker 4: the industry for fifteen years and I saw almost everything.
26:20
Speaker 4: I saw how facilities should be set up, what the
26:23
Speaker 4: FDA looks for an actual FDA audit, what does a
26:26
Speaker 4: GMP certification look like, what are good suppliers look like?
26:29
Speaker 4: And can you go visit them on an off day
26:32
Speaker 4: meaning a day that you randomly show up and are
26:34
Speaker 4: they still following what they're supposed to be doing. So,
26:38
Speaker 4: you know, all that stuff really mattered to me. And
26:40
Speaker 4: that's kind of came together to do that for.
26:43
Speaker 5: The listeners who aren't completely sure what irveated medicine is,
26:47
Speaker 5: give us a snapshot.
26:50
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Irveda is a five thousand year old system of science.
26:54
Speaker 4: It originated in India and IU is life Veda is knowledge.
26:58
Speaker 4: So think of it like this is life's knowledge, okay.
27:02
Speaker 4: And it constitutes around a basic philosophy that we are
27:07
Speaker 4: composed of certain elements of the earth. Those elements are
27:10
Speaker 4: found within our body. They make up the different constitutions,
27:13
Speaker 4: which is bata bittaan kafa. But in essence to the listeners,
27:18
Speaker 4: the main point of Ayurveda is constant balance. How do
27:22
Speaker 4: we stay in balance balance within our internal environment, our
27:26
Speaker 4: external environment, with our relationships, And that starts within That
27:29
Speaker 4: starts with knowing who we are and who we are
27:32
Speaker 4: is based on introspection. But it's also super key to
27:37
Speaker 4: like I said earlier, as the mind conceives and believes,
27:40
Speaker 4: a body follows. And this this applies to everything, not
27:43
Speaker 4: just what I went through. Like you know, if you're,
27:45
Speaker 4: if you're if you're if you're sick with something else
27:48
Speaker 4: like a disease like cancer or anything. It's like, you know,
27:50
Speaker 4: it all starts with the mind. My dad tells me
27:52
Speaker 4: this super thing that's really interesting. He goes, sometimes when
27:56
Speaker 4: you tell a patient they have cancer, he goes, thirty
27:59
Speaker 4: to forty five percent of the battle is lost mentally
28:03
Speaker 4: because of the word cancer, right, And he goes for
28:06
Speaker 4: the people that that perhaps take it that way, but
28:09
Speaker 4: he goes then others that hear that diagnosis are like,
28:12
Speaker 4: it's okay, okay, something's going off in my body. We
28:15
Speaker 4: got to fix it. We'll fix it. So you know,
28:18
Speaker 4: it's it's it's interesting, but but that's kind of what
28:21
Speaker 4: IDA is. The five thousand eurosystem of science. Of science
28:24
Speaker 4: originated in India and it's based around the philosophy of balance, balance, mental, spiritual, emotional.
28:32
Speaker 5: Okay, so you know what I'm what I'm hearing is
28:35
Speaker 5: your story, which is which is undeniably moving and inspiring
28:41
Speaker 5: and tracking all rolled into one. What do you say
28:46
Speaker 5: to people who say, Okay, this sounds great, but to
28:51
Speaker 5: what degree are these supplements you know, regulated in the US?
28:57
Speaker 3: Right right?
28:58
Speaker 4: So I would say that's a great question. So they're
29:01
Speaker 4: not regular, they're not FDA approved, but that does not
29:04
Speaker 4: mean they're not governed by FDA laws. Every single facility
29:08
Speaker 4: that I personally work with in our facility back in
29:10
Speaker 4: India is registered by the FDA. That means the FDA
29:14
Speaker 4: knows that this facility is producing these supplements. That means
29:17
Speaker 4: they have a right to go in there and do
29:19
Speaker 4: an audit at any time. They're also regulated by GMP
29:22
Speaker 4: Good Manufacturing Practices. Okay, they're also regulated by NSF National
29:27
Speaker 4: Sanitation Foundation. All of these accreditations matter because in order
29:32
Speaker 4: to get these accreditations, you have to prove that your
29:35
Speaker 4: facility is run in a way that is safety conscious,
29:38
Speaker 4: that is clean, that is sanitary, and that is actually
29:41
Speaker 4: putting in the bottle or the packet or whatever what
29:44
Speaker 4: you say it is. So it's absolutely it's a great question, guy,
29:47
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought it up, because, yeah, there are
29:50
Speaker 4: so many things that are unregulated. You can go on
29:51
Speaker 4: Amazon and find almost anything, and when you try to
29:54
Speaker 4: contact that buyer on Amazon, they can't tell you, you know
29:58
Speaker 4: where they got it from. They can't tell you where
29:59
Speaker 4: the buyer got it from. We can produce certificate of
30:03
Speaker 4: analysis for every single raw material. So I do. I
30:06
Speaker 4: do testing at the raw level, meaning when the herbs
30:08
Speaker 4: come in. At the raw level, we test to make
30:10
Speaker 4: sure the essays if ash gunda is ashra gunda, do
30:12
Speaker 4: the heavy metals meet our specs? Is it what we
30:14
Speaker 4: need to Then we test it at the raw level.
30:17
Speaker 4: I produce actual certificate of analysis, like this is what
30:20
Speaker 4: it's in here. These are all the things, and then
30:23
Speaker 4: we test again at the at the capsule level again
30:26
Speaker 4: certificate of analysis and then also testing to make sure
30:28
Speaker 4: it is what it is for the people that are
30:31
Speaker 4: in this business that have been doing it right, that
30:33
Speaker 4: believe in quality. For me to say that, you know,
30:40
Speaker 4: we're not playing by the rules just because we're not
30:42
Speaker 4: regulated by a day, that's not correct. We are, I
30:45
Speaker 4: mean we are, We're just it's dietary supplements are different classifications.
30:49
Speaker 4: Zeros are five. It's a food, so you know, it's
30:53
Speaker 4: not technically FDA approved, it's not a drug. It's still
30:56
Speaker 4: a food dietary supplement. But one thing that I also
31:01
Speaker 4: like to say is that my wife, when she was
31:04
Speaker 4: pregnant and we're expecting any any time now with another one,
31:08
Speaker 4: she took the supplements that Uveda produces. Okay, of course,
31:12
Speaker 4: you know, we worked with her doctor and also my father,
31:17
Speaker 4: you know, and I advise everybody. So this pregnancy is
31:19
Speaker 4: a very uh you know, special time, and you should
31:23
Speaker 4: you should work with your practitioner just to make sure
31:24
Speaker 4: they're on the same pay. Hey, this is what I'm
31:26
Speaker 4: planning to take. This is what I'm taking here in
31:27
Speaker 4: the ingredients. Is it cool? Are you okay with that?
31:29
Speaker 4: But she took the mood supplement and the digestion supplement.
31:33
Speaker 4: It really helped her kind of, you know, with her
31:36
Speaker 4: stress and all sorts of things come up with pregnancy
31:39
Speaker 4: and then. But the most important thing was it helped
31:40
Speaker 4: her stay regular. So if I feel confident in what
31:44
Speaker 4: we produce that my wife can take and my kid
31:46
Speaker 4: can my kid is indirectly getting it through through the
31:49
Speaker 4: breast milk, then you know, that's the kind of product
31:52
Speaker 4: I want to produce, and that's what we do.
31:55
Speaker 5: I just re introduced you here, so I'm speaking with
31:57
Speaker 5: Gooney Sodiu of Uvida.
32:02
Speaker 3: So you obviously had your dad to guide you.
32:07
Speaker 5: Who's going to be guiding me when I go to
32:10
Speaker 5: your website and say, Okay, I've got anxiety, I want
32:13
Speaker 5: to check this out.
32:15
Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question. I mean, we've kind of
32:17
Speaker 4: made the website where its intuitive, you can kind of
32:20
Speaker 4: self direct yourself to what modality you're looking for. We've
32:23
Speaker 4: arranged the products into mood assistance, digestion, immunity joints, and
32:28
Speaker 4: overall care. But on top of that, we've also had
32:31
Speaker 4: a place called the Knowledge Center where we've dropped tons
32:33
Speaker 4: of content which will kind of help you further decide, Hey,
32:36
Speaker 4: you know this is what's good for me. These are
32:37
Speaker 4: the herbs in there we have. We do these webinars
32:40
Speaker 4: on a monthly basis where we bring on experts. So
32:43
Speaker 4: the whole thing about the website is it's empowering the
32:45
Speaker 4: knowledge too, not just giving you the product. Is I've
32:48
Speaker 4: never only been about We've never only been about giving
32:50
Speaker 4: the product. It's the knowledge as well, and that to
32:54
Speaker 4: me is super powerful. And I believe the website's built
32:58
Speaker 4: in a way. And we're also working on a quiz
33:00
Speaker 4: here guy as well that will help kind of guide
33:02
Speaker 4: you that should be out probably by the end of
33:04
Speaker 4: this month that that'll answer more specific questions. But for
33:07
Speaker 4: right now, I believe if you are searching for something specific,
33:09
Speaker 4: I think the products are simple enough where you can
33:11
Speaker 4: kind of fit yourself into a category.
33:15
Speaker 3: Or what work with a nutropath.
33:18
Speaker 4: Yes, or work with a naturopath. You can reach out
33:20
Speaker 4: to us. We you can work with an atropath that
33:23
Speaker 4: we have here in Ira Retic. We have a couple
33:25
Speaker 4: of aerobatic practitioners that we can recommend as well as
33:28
Speaker 4: well as just giving us a call of phone support.
33:30
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's general we can guide you. Of course,
33:32
Speaker 4: more serious questions, more medical related, we will send you
33:35
Speaker 4: to their appropriate channels. We also work with my dad's office,
33:39
Speaker 4: you know, he can also guide you. I think they
33:41
Speaker 4: can also take phone consults nowadays Zoom as well. So
33:44
Speaker 4: absolutely yeah. I mean think of us as a resource
33:47
Speaker 4: to kind of not only learn Iraveda, but if you
33:49
Speaker 4: want to implement it into your life, ask the questions,
33:52
Speaker 4: pick up the phone. We have our customers some of
33:55
Speaker 4: the you know, I love it that they they read
33:58
Speaker 4: the back of the supplement panel and they ask questions, Okay, hey,
34:00
Speaker 4: where was this from? I see this is there? Can
34:02
Speaker 4: you tell me a little bit more about it? Can
34:04
Speaker 4: I actually see your guys' certificate analysis? And we're happy
34:07
Speaker 4: to provide it and we're happy to answer those questions.
34:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome, are going you? What's the best way for
34:12
Speaker 3: people to get in touch with you?
34:14
Speaker 4: Absolutely so. You can visit our website www dot Uveda,
34:19
Speaker 4: so y ou v as in Victor e as in
34:23
Speaker 4: Eddie d As and David as and Apple dot Comuveda
34:26
Speaker 4: dot com. We're also on Instagram, underscore Youveda on Facebook.
34:30
Speaker 4: We're at Uveda as well. I'm on Instagram, feel free
34:34
Speaker 4: to reach out. We're also on LinkedIn. I also have
34:37
Speaker 4: a podcast, Guy, I would love to have you on
34:39
Speaker 4: as well one of these days. It's it's called a
34:42
Speaker 4: balance being podcasts on Apple. But yeah, if you go
34:45
Speaker 4: to the website, that's kind of the main frame to
34:47
Speaker 4: get a hold of us, in touch, touch with us
34:48
Speaker 4: through anywhere. You can call us, text us, Instagram, message us,
34:52
Speaker 4: email us. We pretty good to respond.
34:54
Speaker 5: Awesome, And how about a go to book recommendation whether
34:58
Speaker 5: you know, are you related or not or whatever.
35:01
Speaker 4: I love the Seven Spiritual Laws of Success by doctor
35:04
Speaker 4: Deepic choe Bra just because I believe he covers so
35:09
Speaker 4: much in that it almost becomes kind of like a
35:12
Speaker 4: manual for how to know, in my opinion, how to
35:17
Speaker 4: live life. And I love What I love about the
35:18
Speaker 4: book is, Guy, it's like only this this, this thick.
35:21
Speaker 4: You could finish it in an evening, and what's beautiful
35:24
Speaker 4: is finish it, come back to it two weeks later
35:28
Speaker 4: you're going to learn something new or it's going to
35:30
Speaker 4: open up space and review. It's one of those books
35:32
Speaker 4: where keep on going, like I'm just rereading Awaken the
35:35
Speaker 4: Giant Within by Tony Robbins, and it's just phenomenal what
35:39
Speaker 4: I missed the first time in what I'm picking up.
35:41
Speaker 4: So but my first one would be uh deepic Chopra
35:44
Speaker 4: seven Spiritual Laws of Success, and then I love Tony
35:46
Speaker 4: Robbins Awaken the Giant Within two.
35:48
Speaker 5: Awesome, awesome, arguing you man, great having you on here.
35:51
Speaker 4: Thanks so much, absolutely, thank you so much, guy. I
35:53
Speaker 4: appreciate it. Take care
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Speaker 1: You do want to do