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Ohio State Recruiting: Can The Buckeyes Capitalize On Florida's Collapse? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, September nineteenth.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host.
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  Speaker 1: Tomore the Marshall Game in two days, the gamming It's
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  Speaker 1: Michigan in seventy two days. I'm going to be hearing
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  Speaker 1: a lot about recruiting on today's show. This is actually
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  Speaker 1: a bonus episode. This is an episode of the Skull
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  Speaker 1: Session recruiting podcast that Mark Gifler and Kevin Noon dropped
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  Speaker 1: earlier in the week. This was a great conversation and
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  Speaker 1: answered one of the questions that we've been getting a
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  Speaker 1: lot on our insider board at buckehuddle dot com. That is,
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  Speaker 1: can the Buckeyes take advantage of all the turmoil going
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  Speaker 1: on in the state of Florida right now? You may
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  Speaker 1: have heard that things are not super great for the
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  Speaker 1: Florida Gators and Florida State Seminoles. Florida obviously one of
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  Speaker 1: the top states in the nation in terms of producing
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  Speaker 1: high school football talent. So are there opportunities for the
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes to take advantage of the turmoil down in the
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  Speaker 1: Sunshine State and maybe make a little hay in the
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  Speaker 1: classes of twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six. That
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  Speaker 1: is just one of the topics that Mark and Kevin
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  Speaker 1: covered on the show, but there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: great recruiting talking. This was a good way to get
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  Speaker 1: all of that to you guys in one easy shot.
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  Speaker 1: So here you go a bonus episode of the Skull
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes Tomorrow morning.
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  Speaker 3: Good Monday afternoon, everybody, Welcome to the Skull Session Recruiting Podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Brought you like buckye Huddle dot com. Mark Gibler here
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  Speaker 3: with Kevin Noon. It's the bye week's over, so's that's exciting.
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  Speaker 3: Monday suck, especially for those of you with real jobs.
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  Speaker 3: But the bye week is over, so it's a game
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  Speaker 3: week again. And I think everyone probably got a good
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  Speaker 3: opportunity this weekend to catch up on what's going on
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  Speaker 3: around the country and college football, or maybe even see
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  Speaker 3: your families a little bit for the during the season.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you actually spend some time with your families that
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  Speaker 3: are watching college football day. I don't know. Results results differ,
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  Speaker 3: I think among people, but yeah, I think we talked
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  Speaker 3: about this last week quite a bit, but I think
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  Speaker 3: it's worth revisiting this week after watching some of the
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  Speaker 3: games on Saturday, just kind of what other teams are
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  Speaker 3: doing out there, how that can affect Ohio State recruiting,
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  Speaker 3: either positively or negatively. And you know, one thing, boy,
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  Speaker 3: the state of Florida what a mess. What a mess.
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  Speaker 3: Miami's looking pretty good so far, but Florida State another ugly,
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  Speaker 3: ugly loss. They made it competitive there at the end,
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  Speaker 3: but they were down seventeen points in the second half
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  Speaker 3: at home to Memphis, Mike Norvell's former stop. So that
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  Speaker 3: was also a little bit of irony there. There are
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  Speaker 3: serious issues in Tallahasseee Kevin, you know, did you watch
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  Speaker 3: that game or just kind of your reaction, because I
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  Speaker 3: think we keep thinking all eventually they're not going to
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  Speaker 3: do this, but they keep doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched that game, and I watched one with
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  Speaker 2: another Florida team that we'll talk about here in a second,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure. And yeah, Florida State is not what it
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  Speaker 2: used to be in terms of last year. Uh, everybody
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  Speaker 2: going bonkers because they got left out due the injury
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  Speaker 2: to Jordan Travis. You know, it's just you know, DJU
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  Speaker 2: is not the answer. But former Ohio State quarterback commit
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  Speaker 2: Brock Glenn seems to be the next man up if
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  Speaker 2: they get to that point, and I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: they feel that they're in any better position with him.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, at this point, everybody who goes in
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  Speaker 2: to play Florida State believes that not only can they win,
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  Speaker 2: but that they are going to win, and that can
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  Speaker 2: become infectious at that point. So, you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: that there are a lot of people trying to say
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  Speaker 2: that Mike Norvel is on the hot seat. You're just
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  Speaker 2: coming off of a twelve to ohero season, so let's
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  Speaker 2: you know, let's slow our role a little bit there.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think there's cause for concern because say
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  Speaker 2: what you will about the ACC, and I'm one of
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  Speaker 2: the biggest critics that the ACC isn't really good in
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  Speaker 2: terms of you know, maybe there's one or two teams
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  Speaker 2: at the top, but largely it's just a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: Wake Forests out there, uh and in C States who
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  Speaker 2: just are not getting anything done. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think that uhral neutral site game. I'm not taking Florida
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  Speaker 2: State against Wake Forest or in C State, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think because it's just such a it's just such a mess.
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  Speaker 2: And they and what they've got Cow coming up next,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that perennial ACC powerhouse of Cow. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: certainly gonna take cal in the points.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't looked at the line or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, if I do decide to have a
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  Speaker 2: little action there, I cannot in good faith bet on
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  Speaker 2: Florida State other than fading them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got some issues. And look even if you
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  Speaker 3: even if they wanted to move on from Norvel, which
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  Speaker 3: man that would make that would make gene chiswicks honeymoon
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  Speaker 3: look short. But like they I don't think they can.
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  Speaker 3: Like we talk all the time about, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: someone will come up with the buyout money they owe
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  Speaker 3: him North with sixty dollars if they fire him million.
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  Speaker 3: Your TV contract in the ACC sucks. You are fighting
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  Speaker 3: a legal battle with the ACC right now, so I
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  Speaker 3: don't think you're exactly flush with cash. You may have
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  Speaker 3: to buy You know, if depending on how this lawsuit
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  Speaker 3: straightens out and how how the ACC kind of finds
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  Speaker 3: their way with through all this, you may have to
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  Speaker 3: be paying the ACC a buyout to leave that that
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  Speaker 3: may be a result that that comes about at some
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  Speaker 3: point is paying an exit fee. I don't think even
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  Speaker 3: in the world where there seems to be like unlimited money,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you can buy him out at sixty
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  Speaker 3: plus million dollars and he's not going to give you
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  Speaker 3: a He's not going to say, oh, you know, I'll
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  Speaker 3: just take thirty I mean, this is this is the contract.
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  Speaker 3: He's not going to take a penny less than like
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  Speaker 3: the sixty five million or whatever it is that they
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  Speaker 3: owe him. So they cannot do anything here. They have
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  Speaker 3: to hope that this just gets fixed organically from within.
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  Speaker 3: But this kind of goes back to like what I've
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  Speaker 3: said about the transfer portal over the years, which is
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  Speaker 3: that I think Ohio State, we can nitpick certain things
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  Speaker 3: about how maybe Ryan Day runs his program. I think
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  Speaker 3: the one thing they have kind of nailed over the
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  Speaker 3: years is how to handle the transfer portal, because you
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  Speaker 3: cannot hire a new team of mercenaries every year and
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  Speaker 3: just keep running it back. We saw, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: may work for a year. You may catch lightning in
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  Speaker 3: a bottle with a certain state. It was the example, right,
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  Speaker 3: you call it lightning in a bottle there. You tried
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  Speaker 3: to run it back again with a whole new team
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  Speaker 3: of mercenaries and it was a disaster and then your
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  Speaker 3: coach got fired. Probably I'm not so sure that was
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  Speaker 3: the Brenda Tracy thing as much as it was like,
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  Speaker 3: we got to get out of this contract. And so yeah,
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  Speaker 3: unless something comes out of Mike Norvell's personal life that
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  Speaker 3: they can dig up, Florida States can not be able
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  Speaker 3: to do that. So like what Ohio State's done, I think, well,
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  Speaker 3: is they've they've said, look, we don't want to be
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  Speaker 3: Dobo swingy because that's not really the way to do
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  Speaker 3: it either is to just be like the transfer portal
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  Speaker 3: doesn't exist, you know, put your fingers in your no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: I can't hear you. But to you know, find your
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  Speaker 3: two or three spots a year where it's like, man,
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  Speaker 3: we either need a starter here or we need a
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  Speaker 3: depth body here, and let's go attack these two or
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  Speaker 3: three spots. But bringing in even if you who's fifteen
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  Speaker 3: guys to the portal, bringing in fifteen twenty new guys
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  Speaker 3: to replace them from the portal, it's all it's not
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  Speaker 3: gonna work. It's not gonna work over the long term,
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  Speaker 3: and it's it's just it's it's I think it's probably
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  Speaker 3: bad for culture. As the cat tries to make an
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  Speaker 3: appearance here, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was gonna say, sleep over on the sofa, so yours she.
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  Speaker 3: Is obsessed with like when I'm sitting here doing anything,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's podcasting or whatever. But you know, I just
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  Speaker 3: think I don't think it's the way to go about things.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Ohio State has has found a good
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  Speaker 3: mix there of like, yes, if the Kale downs is there,
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  Speaker 3: of course, you know, if we need an offensive lineman,
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  Speaker 3: we'll get one. If we need a linebacker, whatever it is,
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  Speaker 3: if we need one, you know, these one or two
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  Speaker 3: areas that we just want to patch up. Maybe someone
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  Speaker 3: got injured and you know, and you're not sure how
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna come back from an injury. You've got you've
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  Speaker 3: got a spot available, some unexpected transfer happened on your end,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it might be. I think they've got the right
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  Speaker 3: idea with the portal, and so I think when people
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  Speaker 3: sit here and you know, pick apart the portal and like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we should be adding these like twenty guys, I just
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's the way to go about things.
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  Speaker 2: I want to kind of talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: DJU and this one pains me because Big Dave is
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  Speaker 2: such a great guy and I don't want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about one of his you know, one of his kids
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  Speaker 2: like this. But DJU wasn't the answer at Clemson. But
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  Speaker 2: then again, when they moved on Kate Clubnick really isn't
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  Speaker 2: the answer there. So that was kind of left as
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of well, is it this or is
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  Speaker 2: it that DJU goes to Oregon State doesn't necessarily work
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  Speaker 2: out there but not but you know, again not not
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  Speaker 2: five star, not five star output. And now he goes
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  Speaker 2: to Florida State and everybody's ready to bury Dju. Everybody's ready.
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  Speaker 2: But those were are dropping everything, they're dropping everything. Now,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you do get the behind the line of scrimmage
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  Speaker 2: shot and you get to see, okay, that wasn't in
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  Speaker 2: the window, that was behind him whatever. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes these mistakes grow, you know, because one mistake leads
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  Speaker 2: to ten more mistakes. And DJU, certainly, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm well, if I'm him, I'm going to just write
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  Speaker 2: it out at quarterback, I guess, because you're at the end,
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  Speaker 2: you're at the end of your run, and then you
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  Speaker 2: see what happens there. But he would have probably been
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  Speaker 2: better served at some point moving to tight end or
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  Speaker 2: something like that. A very athletic, skilled kid, uh you know,
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Hoying, who wasn't necessary athletic or skilled moved a
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  Speaker 2: tight end at Ohio State when he didn't have the
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  Speaker 2: same juice that Bobby did. But you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: that there's been a lot of malpractice there. But it
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  Speaker 2: really goes to show where the coach's mindset is. And
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  Speaker 2: this also leads into this other Florida school. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: not trying to advance the show too much of if
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to go to the backup, is it
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  Speaker 2: because but to make promises to the starting quarterback?
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  Speaker 3: Or is the room?
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  Speaker 2: Is the backup room so bad that it's like we know,
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  Speaker 2: we know, we know what the devil, you don't know is,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna stick with the devil we do know, But
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  Speaker 2: it's it's bad. It is bad. And I saw I
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  Speaker 2: saw a stat I think it was back to like
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  Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five or something that when both Florida and
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  Speaker 2: Florida State both started the season like zho and three
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  Speaker 2: or something like that. I mean, it is it is,
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  Speaker 2: it is not good, and it's you know, to kind
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  Speaker 2: of keep this in the recruiting world. Gus Mazan at
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  Speaker 2: UCF certainly has to like this. I think that if
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  Speaker 2: you are, if you are not one of the two
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  Speaker 2: schools that we're talking about right now, it should open
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  Speaker 2: up some opportunities for you. And then obviously, you know
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  Speaker 2: your Georgia's, Ohio State's LSUS whoever are always going to
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  Speaker 2: recruit the state of Florida as well. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I will I will save my comments on keeping an
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  Speaker 2: eye on certain kids when we talk about the team
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  Speaker 2: in Gainesville.
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  Speaker 3: Ironically, Ohio State commit TJ. Alford was on campus, was
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  Speaker 3: at Florida State this weekend for a visit. And look,
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  Speaker 3: I have no doubt that he's going to you know,
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  Speaker 3: TJ's a polite kid. He's not going to bad Moult
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  Speaker 3: Florida State. To me, He's not going to bad Malt
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  Speaker 3: Flora State. To you know, the other recruiting people in
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  Speaker 3: the business that call him and want to see how
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  Speaker 3: things are going after the visit. But that could not
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  Speaker 3: have been great. You've got the fans turning on these coaches.
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  Speaker 3: And again we'll get to the guy in Gainsville here
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  Speaker 3: in a minute, but you got the fans turning on
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  Speaker 3: these coaches. Florida State just looks terrible right now that
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  Speaker 3: that could not you know, I kind of joked on Saturday,
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  Speaker 3: I said, boy, Florida State's really taken this seriously. You know,
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  Speaker 3: their big pitch to Alford is you know, he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: need you, we need you. They just want you. We
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  Speaker 3: actually need you. I said, well, they're really taking that
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  Speaker 3: pitch seriously because they're down seventeen to Memphis in the
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  Speaker 3: second half right now. But you know, it just that
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  Speaker 3: could not have been a good visit. There's no way
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  Speaker 3: that was a comfortable visit. Like, there's just no way.
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  Speaker 3: And I continue to be of the belief that this
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  Speaker 3: is more of like a Jeremiah Smith situation with TJ,
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  Speaker 3: where it's like, you know, as long as James lauren
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  Speaker 3: Nitas is in Columbus and there's no reason to think
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  Speaker 3: he wouldn't be, I mean, this is kind of the
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  Speaker 3: job he wants. I think that's going to be very difficult.
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  Speaker 3: But the fact that like two big, you know, potential
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  Speaker 3: flip candidate programs in Flora State and Florida are struggling
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  Speaker 3: the way they are right now is certainly helping Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State on that front, because you're not going to flip
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  Speaker 3: from Ohio State to a program that's like in total
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  Speaker 3: chaos right now. So that's that's a helpful thing right
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  Speaker 3: now for the buck Eyes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we talk about that one game doesn't affect a
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  Speaker 2: kid often, but in disarray, a program in disarray, a
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  Speaker 2: program where the fans are ready to beat the living
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  Speaker 2: crap out of the head coach and the assistant coaches
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  Speaker 2: and the players and everything else, that is more so
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  Speaker 2: than what we just didn't have it today or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But we're gonna still go off and go ten and
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  Speaker 2: two on the season. Ten and two is off the table.
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  Speaker 2: Nine and three is as good as his team could be.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you in a little secret. They're not
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  Speaker 2: going to go nine and three.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just could not have been a comfortable vibe
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  Speaker 3: in Tallahassee. So let's get to Florida, which is even crazier.
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  Speaker 3: I think right now you had so billion. Napier's kind
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  Speaker 3: of more interesting. You know, they can it'll sting, It'll
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  Speaker 3: sting a lot, But Florida can get out of the
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  Speaker 3: billion Napier contract. His buyouts like half of Norvelle's, so
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  Speaker 3: Norvelle's like sixty five million. I could be off by
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  Speaker 3: million or two, but Normal's like sixty five million. Napier's
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  Speaker 3: under forty. Like Napier's like in the mid thirties. I
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  Speaker 3: think to get out of his deal, I think it's
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  Speaker 3: like it may maybe like thirty two, maybe as low
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  Speaker 3: as thirty two. And I read something that like they
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  Speaker 3: owe him half of it within like thirty or sixty
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  Speaker 3: days of firing him, so they'd have to fork outup
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  Speaker 3: pretty quickly. But you're talking about half of like what
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  Speaker 3: Norvell's buyout is. You're also talking about sec money. With
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  Speaker 3: the new deal they've got that's kicking in, they're making
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  Speaker 3: a lot more money than Florida State. They're making a
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  Speaker 3: lot more money in Florida State. So again, that's never
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  Speaker 3: an easy pill to swallow. Is to go to you know,
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  Speaker 3: hat in hand, to your boosters and be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like it's gonna take us thirty two million to get
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  Speaker 3: rid of this guy. But if Florida really wants to,
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  Speaker 3: they can get out of that. It's not as hopeless
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  Speaker 3: of a buyout situation as what I think Florida State's in.
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  Speaker 3: But the vitriol is actually worse for Napier right now
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  Speaker 3: than it is at Florida than it is at Florida State.
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  Speaker 3: For Norvel. Napier is getting booed. I mean he's like
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  Speaker 3: walking off the field like I think his family's out there,
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  Speaker 3: and like a couple hundred fans like stayed by the
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  Speaker 3: tunnel way after the game just to yell insults and
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  Speaker 3: boo him on his on his lonely walk out the stadium.
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  Speaker 3: They're like that that can't that situation is is toxic,
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  Speaker 3: that that that fan base and that coach cannot coexist
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  Speaker 3: right now, Like and I don't know how you bring
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  Speaker 3: in I don't know how you bring in recruits who
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  Speaker 3: like I guess they showed something on the big screen
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  Speaker 3: at the on the stadium scoreboard of Napier, like a
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  Speaker 3: commercial that he was reading, ad read or something, and
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  Speaker 3: they were booing the commercial he was in at this
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  Speaker 3: like every time.
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  Speaker 2: Brown feel all warm and fuzzy inside, like it is out.
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  Speaker 3: It is crazy how fed up Florida fans are right now.
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  Speaker 3: And that is just that is a bad environment for recruiting.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we talk about like how fans can kind
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  Speaker 3: of impact recruiting, like for the in game experience when
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  Speaker 3: you're booing your coach every time he shows up on
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  Speaker 3: the big screen, when you're booing your coach on his
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  Speaker 3: way out the door, when you're like, that's not a
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  Speaker 3: tenable situation right now. So I don't know, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and that that's a good Yeah, the money is already hand.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for posting that. Yeah that that say doctor
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  Speaker 3: g Yeah yeah, yeah. Like I said, they can get
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  Speaker 3: out of the Napier thing.
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  Speaker 2: But fans didn't like them hired to begin with. And
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  Speaker 2: remember he came from Louisiana Lafayette which is now just
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  Speaker 2: called Louisiana, and he was kind of the hot name
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  Speaker 2: out there, you know. LSU didn't even look at him.
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  Speaker 2: LSU in the same state did not even look at
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Billy Napier. He had the success with the Raging Cagen's.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think this one was predictable. A lot
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: of people didn't even want to come back this season,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: so to just stink on top of that just makes
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: it even even worse. And I kind of mentioned Vernell
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Brown and they're going to be other players that you know.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I think Brown's a little bit of a different situation
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: being a legacy, but at some point, you're going to
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: hear the booze and you're going to hear all of that,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and you're going to hear about it, you know, in
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: the locker room when you're getting ready to play your games. Oh,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: you're going to Florida. Huh, Well that's sorry, Bless your heart,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: because they're an even worse situation. I mean, when I
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: say that Florida State isn't going to go nine to
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: three or whatever, they're playing a crummy ACC schedule. Florida's
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: playing an SEC schedule. So I don't think that there's
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any way he survives this season.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: He is going to be let go prior to the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: end of this season, and his insistence on playing Graham
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Mertz over DJ Lagway is just mind boggling that that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: that's where they are. I mean, I understand that Lagway
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: had big numbers against a much lesser opponent, but talent
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: sometimes goes from game to game like that, and Graham
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Mertz he ain't him, He ain't him. Stop taking Wisconsin
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the portal, at least ones who don't do anything,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: which is everybody not named Russell Wilson. Because Alex Hornybrook
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: couldn't get it done, Graham Mertz can't get it done.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: None of these guys can get it done. Luke Fickle
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a quarterback and can get it done right now.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure somebody's somebody's gonna leave out of that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess Vandyke is out of out of
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: eligibility after this year. But stop, stop, you're embarrassing yourselves.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: It's I've commented about this a lot last week or two,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Like you've watched so many of these quarterbacks we've watched
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: be average to bad for three or four years of
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: other programs. I don't understand why these coaches think they're
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: gonna go get these kids and they're gonna magically fix them. Well,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I have a hunch why, and that's because we've seen
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: it one time. We saw it with Bonix at Oregon,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: and I think Bonis at Oregon might be the worst
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: thing that's ever happened to the rest of the college
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: football coaching fraternity because every other, almost every other example
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: of this, we see that these guys just aren't very good,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: regardless of like what their high school ranking was, regardless
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: of you know what you think they're how they're being
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: misused or how they're not weren't properly developed, et cetera,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: et cetera. Regardless of what you may think about that,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Like the proof has been in the pudding. When you
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: when you've got three years somewhere else and we've seen
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: you plays like they were while they were on the
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: bench somewhere they're work at an opportunity. We've seen them play.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: They weren't very good, and there's just this like thing that, oh,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: we can fix him, we can fix the problem, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: we can get the five star out of him. And
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: again this has failed over and over and over again,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: except we saw it work with Bonix, and now it's like, oh,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: we can we can do the bon Nix thing with
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: DJ we can do the Bonnix thing with Graham Merks.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: It's like, no, you can't.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Rogers in Washington has not been nearly as good as
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: he was at Mississippi State.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: It's almost like Mike Leach was a pretty good quarterback guy.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: You know, rest in peace. You know, he has not
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: been able to replicate his success without Leach. And yet
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: we're watching that and there he is running speed option
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: to the short side of the field. The goal line
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: to lose to Washington State. But like, I don't get it,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: and it's funny. I had someone tell me the other
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: day it's almost a joke to certain coaches right now.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I had some of the coaching circles kind of telling me,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: like we were talking about this on Saturday as we
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: were watching some of these guys struggle, and they're like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: the transfer portal is magical. The transfer portal is magical.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: It convinces all these coaches that play, every player that
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: enters the portal automatically becomes ten times better than they
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: actually are. And it just like mesmerizes these coaches like, oh,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: that kid was a That kid was right number seventy
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: five in the country coming out of high school. And
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: you know he you know, he didn't do anything at
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame or Ohio State, but he you know, he
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: must be he must be good. It's like, no, he's not.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: You just you know they mist you miss you, don't.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: You don't know one that's a thousand on evaluations, Like
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the recruiting sites don't, the coaching staffs don't. Out of
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: high school, Like.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: For every Sam Ward, you have a Sam Hartman, you
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: have like tennis Sam Hartman's.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Right and like but even like with like cam like
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: he's played very well, but like cam Ward was good
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: at Washington State with like not a lot of talent
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: around him, Like he was good, like trying to take
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Graham Mertz and beat like Alabama and Georgia with Grant,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Like what are you thinking? What are you doing it?
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Just these coaches, Like in Quincy, Avery said something interesting.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: The quarterback trainer has worked with a lot of the
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Ohigh State guys over the years. He said something interesting
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: too the other day. They don't trust their own evaluations
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: everyone because there's so much money on the line, and
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: like so your asses on the line for every evaluation
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: you make, especially at quarterback, because it's so magnified that
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: these coaches they don't trust their own evaluation. So they're
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: just going off of like paper rankings and stuff because
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: they everyone's like afraid to go kind of like out
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: of the box and like offer a kid that doesn't
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: have any offers or doesn't have a lot of big offers,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: or you know, they're afraid to like, well, we like
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: this kid on film better in the portal, but he's
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: coming from he's coming from Illinois, and this kid was
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: a former five star at you know, at Notre Dame
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: or USC and so we're going to take that kid,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: even though the film shows he's not as good as
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: the other kid. Like it's just wild. It's really wild
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: to see the portal decisions that are being made right
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: now at quarterback. And like Florida State paid north of
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I think it was like one point Reports have varied
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: a little bit, but one point four to one point
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: seven million is the number that DJU is getting at
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Florida State. So maybe that's why they haven't moved on
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: to the next guy, because how do you go, like,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: so you're getting this money from collectives right now, how
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: do you go back, you know, to the collective whoever's
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: running at collec and say, yeah, I know, we took
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: one point five million for the last disaster at quarterback,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: but we need another like two million for this, Like
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: we want to go get this guy. This guy is
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: in the portal now, we need to go get him now.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: And that's gonna cost two million dollars. They're gonna look
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: at you like.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: No, like no, another name of a quarterback that everybody
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: was so high on, and he transfers and he can't.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: He hasn't seen the field yet. Malachai Nelson goes to USC,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: can't win out that job. He couldn't beat out Miller
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Moss or whatever. And then goes to Boise State and
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: he can't beat out the incumbent at Boise And I'm
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: sure that Boise offered up some really good potato money
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: to get him. And you know, it's it's a crap sheet.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: It's a crap sheet.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: It's funny about that. Like I wonder if I was
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: thinking think about like in these terms in terms of
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: like the piece of the pie. So like every school's
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: pie is a little bit, you know, bigger, smaller, different size.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Ohio State's got quite a large an il pie. You know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Alabama's got a large like those schools. Boise State probably
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: not like a huge nil pie. Like I wonder how
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: much of the pie, like they had to pay to
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: get Malachi Nelson, because you know, there were other programs
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: that we're gonna fall on the sword and be like
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: that was a five star in high school. We haven't
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: seen him throw a football in like two years, but
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: we're gonna take him.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: We're going.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Right, and like so like I wonder how much like Boise,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: he had to fork up for that. But you know, sorry,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: if I'm making yes, I think I'm I think I'm
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: making people hungry in the chat. But like I do
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: think of that sometimes. It's like, because you know what
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: at one point four million might be to Florida State,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You know that that might be the equivalent of you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: a couple hundred thousand to Boise or something like that.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: But so you just kind of wonder how that gets solved.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, it's just the portal decisions a
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: quarterback right now not good, really really really not good
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: unless you're Syracuse in Kansas or Syracuse in Ohio State today.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: What do you know, Kyle McCord doing well at Syracuse,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Will Howard fitting in nicely in the Ohio State offense
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: right now? But these also weren't like multimillion dollar nil deals.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I know, you know, it's funny Ohio State fans think
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: that Ohio State doesn't you know, do nil well when
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: they do, and everyone else in the country thinks Ohio
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: State just buys everybody, which they don't. And it's like
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: there's no like real uh tangible like there's no like
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: middle ground to how people view a High States nil.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: But like Ohio State wasn't paying like through the moon
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: for Will Howard. That was a bargain that was like
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: a bargain rack and il thing.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't turn down the money. But it's not.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Like multimillion dollar bidding war out there, Will Howard. So like,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: you know, Ohio State comes out of that pretty well.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure Kyle McCord did well with an
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: nil package from Syracuse, but it's not like Syracuse giving
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Kyle mc court a few million dollars and that's not happening.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: So like, you know, good on them, I guess, But
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: you know, those those are more practical decisions as far
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: as like, yeah, we're not going to break the bank
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: for this guy. It's not a former you know, necessarily
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: a former five stars flamed out. Like you know, we
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: we got like a bunch of games of Will Howard
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: on tape. We got a bunch of games of Kyle
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: McCord on tape. We think he can help us, you
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: know whatever. Like the these these decisions of like you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: watching guys start thirty five games somewhere else and not
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: be good and then tape is it's it's it's mind numbing.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: And then there's Michigan who probably should have done that
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: because as we said in our little UH text chat
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the other day, I think it was Ross that said
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: it UH linkedn Teenholtz would start from Michigan right now.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, absolutely, Like so, how how did that?
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Like, how did they watch that situation over the course
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: of the last year, Because you're seeing these guys in practice,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: then you get like, you know, your winter workouts and
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: you get into the spring, it's like, how did you
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: watch all that and think, yep, we're going to be
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: competitive with Texas and us like that. That's beyond my comprehension.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: So it's a it's a mess. And but here's the thing.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: They bring in Jayden Davis. Nebraska brings in uh, you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Dylan Royola. Jayden Davis is not ready to go. You know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Dylan Riola is ready. And you know, credit to Nebraska
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: for being able to roll out a true freshman and
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: get those types of results. They did kind of cover
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: their butts a little bit and brought in like the
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: nai a leading passer as kind of a backup. But
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: they've rolled with Riola and so far, so good, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: they can come into Columbus undefeated. But you know, apparently
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: you know, you see what you see, and they hadn't
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: had Jack Tuttle, he's supposedly able to dress. Now at
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: this point, you really were stuck between Davis Warren Alex Orgy.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So you have one guy in org She who can't
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: pass but can run, and then you have a guy,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Davis Warren, who can't do either. And it's just a
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: bad situation for them. And you know, they're not going
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: to be a lot of tears shedding this chat. And
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: that's fine, that's you know, we know our audience. But
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: it just it it's malpractice. It is malpractice up there
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to go into that, you know, into that type of situation.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: There are quarterbacks always looking for new homes. And they decided, no,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: we're fine, you know, we we think two seven off
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: suit is good enough. Let's let's let's see a flop.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think they're just gonna have to
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: go like almost like just wildcat quarterback, like use Orgy's
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: almost like a wildcat quarterback and just eighty twenty run pass.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I mean that that to me looks to be their
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: only path to having a decent season. But uh yeah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: that they're they're the quarterback. Just the whole dynamic in
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the quarterback position right now in college football seems completely
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: out of whack, which is why I think you're seeing
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: such a gap between the top few teams and the
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: rest of the country. But that's another topic for another day.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: So recruiting wise, and again another another program that I
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: think got very, very lucky on Saturday, like the Hymen's
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: over at LSU for Brian Kelly.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I talked to our common friend and he
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: was he was not happy.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: If that game goes the way it probably should have
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: on Saturday, we may be having totally different Brian Kelly
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: discussion right now. But like that's another one. It's like, Okay,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: you know, where can Ohio State you know they're not
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: you know, they're not going to get Bryce under old
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: or anything like that. I mean, that doesn't make sense
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: with Saint Clair, but like where can Ohio State kind
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: of benefit from that? But you know, I said at
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: the time, I'm I said, I wish all of my
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: takes aged as well as this. But but when when
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Brian Kelly took the LSU job and not name hired
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman, I said that like that very day or
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: that like week or whatever it was. It was like
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: bang bang, it was pretty fast. I said, I think
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: both teams, both programs just got worse. I didn't think
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Freeman was ready for the Notre Dame job, and Brian
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Kelly at LSU just seems like a fish out of water.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I mean that just that is just the weirdest personality
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: fit I've almost ever seen.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: That is like, I mean, you don't have to hire
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: Bockhorn Leghorn, who is dreaming right but like the New
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: York and in sweet tea on on his wrap around
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: porch at his plantation to sit there and make a
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: good hire at LSU.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: But Brian Kelly like the Northeast, rude, sarcastic, like you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: asshole type going down to the Bayou.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: It just so. I honestly thought he was perfect for
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame forty four and six, his last fifty games
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: like made perfect sense for but I guess he just
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: thought he couldn't get for whatever reason, he couldn't get
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: over the hump there and didn't think you'd be able to,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: and so he went to LSU. But uh yeah, and
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: again I agree with Doug Shepherd, sid Brian Kelly could
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: coach football, but I read that he would rather be
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: on the golf course than recruit. I don't disagree that
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: he's actually a good football coach. I just think the
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: fit at Alice you was horrendous. Again, he forty four
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: and six his last fifty at Notre Dame, which is
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: by far the best run they've had, you know, best
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: run they've had since Lou Holtz. And so but again
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: did he did he go to LSU because you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: again people will say you couldn't get over the hump
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: and Notre Dame and kind of knew he couldn't and
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: kind of needed to. Or huge payday from LSU was
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: that his was that his like retirement you know something
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: you mentioned the golf was that just like, hey, you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame is probably not gonna match this, Like this
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: is big money. I'm gonna get this last contract and
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: just do whatever I want. I don't know, but it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: not working, Like it's not it's not working right now. Yes,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: the Jaqeem Stewart thing is fascinating to me. And this
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: this is why Jaqem Stewart is kind of a microcosm
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: of of why I hated the Brian Kelly move to
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: l s U. There is nothing, There is no common
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: ground between Brian Kelly and Jackem Steel.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: They might as well be from different side of it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Like they there is no like ability there. I don't
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: think for either one to relate to the other, I
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: really don't. But you know, I so I think players
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: like that. Again, you meet that like northeast rude like
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: type of thing. It's like and I'm from I'm from
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: forty five minutes west of Philly, so I know northeast rude.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: So it it doesn't play well down there, It really doesn't.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And so I, as I've said before, I don't think
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Jackem is particularly fond of LSU. Now, does that mean
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: you won't go to LSU. No, we we've seen this
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: movie before. We've seen the pressure applied to those kids
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: down in that part of the country to go to
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: l s U. But again, I think I think geography
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: is the only hurdle that USC and Ohio State face
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: and recruiting Jaqem Stewart, cause I think they're doing I
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: think they have the best relationship with Jakeem. I think
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Ohio State's got a shot. I really do and it
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: just it's just a weird fit for me with Kelly
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: and Lsu. It's just a it's just a weird fit. Yeah,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: and Bestian pot Land've heard Stewart really likes he. He
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: loves l JN, loves Larry Johnson. H Larry Johnson loves
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Jakeem Stewart to in a way that maybe only like
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Chase Young and Nick Bosa have have been able to
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: appeal to Larry Johnson as a high school wert. I
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: can promise you that this is this is not just
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: like Larry Johnson signed a lot of five star kids
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: over the years. Jakeem was in that top top tier
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: as far as he sees it in terms of, you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the best kind of most talented guys. He's recruited.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: So when that went, we went and Saja Kem he's transferred.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: He's no longer at what with Saint Augustine. We walked
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: up and there were some dudes, I mean, there were
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: some dudes on the team, and then there is Jakiem
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Stewart who was a head taller than everybody else. He
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: is extremely impressive and he I mean, I hate throwing
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: out the term can't miss. I mean we just had
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: been talked about five star quarterbacks. But you know, I
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: think if you sit there and you have a d
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: lineman and like Seaball get ball or whatever, maybe it's
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: maybe it's a little more forgiving. There's a reason why
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Larry loves this kid that much because I you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I really loved Edward Houston in the previous cycle. But
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: you know, Kim Stewart is a is a different body
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: tie to me than what Edric is. And Edric's having
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: success with Ohio State, had a couple of PBUs his
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: deflection was intercepted by gay powers, so there's success there.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: But jacquem is a big deal. But yeah, Texas and
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Ohio State are out front right now. But as we know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: when it comes to when it comes down to sign
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: and time, sometimes the you know, the proximity wins out.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, I just think that's going to be the
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: thing to watch. It's it's all fun and games to
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: say you're not worth about geography or you love this
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: guy and are you know you're willing to go, you know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: so far away from home. But then it becomes time
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: to do it, and not everyone can do it. So
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see what you know that'll be a yeah.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't say they're a distant third, but
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I would say, you know, they're in that top two
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: or three, and I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily be necessarily
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: you know, crystal balling anybody.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Yet, right, No, you know, I think that they probably
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you know, it's probably coming from a Southeast expert who's
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: probably embedded close to LSU or whatever, or Texas and
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: or Texas, and just you know, there isn't always one
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: solution at this point of the recruitment. I think that
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: you can, you know, we talk to people everything else.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: It's more than just reading tea leaves. But tea leaves
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: can be read multiple ways. So we may be reading
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: it one way, somebody there may be reading it another way.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Somebody in another service may be reading it a third way.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: You know, I disagree that Ohio State is a distant third.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I absolutely wholeheartedly disagree with that. I'm not going to
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: call anybody names or anything. Oh you're stupid. I mean,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: it's just the way that I'm reading it. No, iiO
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: State is not a distant third. You could. I think
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: that Ohio State and Texas are ahead of LSU in
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: my opinion, and I may be proven wrong, But the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: problem is is that what I think here in September
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: sixteenth and whatever really happens on December whatever. Remember a
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: kid hasn't reclassified yet, uh, you know until I mean,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: we'll have to see, We'll just have to see.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, he's got to get reclassified then he
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: can start taking officials. This despite him moving to twenty
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: five moving things up, we're like in I still think
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I feel like we're in the second or third inning
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: of this, Like I don't. It feels like we should
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: be further along if he's gonna actually decide in like December,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: or maybe maybe he waits a little bit longer than that.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: But uh, it feels like we're rolling in like the
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: second or third inning here. So let's let's see where
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: it goes.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Super chad Omar Austin enjoy the content as always, gents,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: who's the next big time O tackle for the twenty
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: five cycle we should keep an eye on see for
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: lunch soon keV go Bucks. They just offered a twenty
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: five uh Lineman in the last week. Let me go
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: find it? Yeah, go ahead.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: So obviously right now they're really trying to flip Mica
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: at Debos from from Alabama. Again, as I've said in
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: the past, nothing's really changed for me, like since last
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: week on that, like Ohio State thinks they have a shot.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not denying that they might have a shot, but
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not particularly optimistic that they're going to be able
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: to flip him. I think they've got some hurdles there.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: But they did offer. I am going to try to
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: get this right. The mola Aji Dahoune, big offensive tackle
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: from from Georgia. Yeah, yeah, from Duluth. So that's a
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: new offer in the past week. Kind of you know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: we're all kind of this was a kind of out
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: of the left field type of offer. This wasn't like
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: a guy they've like we've been talking about for a while.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: He is committed to Georgia Tech. It appears. I don't
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: know what George's interest is. I know they've they've offered him.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they're continuing to recruit him or not,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: so I don't I have to I haven't talked with
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: our Georgia guys about that, but you know, obviously that's
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: that's like kind of the first name that's emerged here
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: as we talk about like the new names and things
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: like that, and again we we made look at that
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: and oh, Georgia Tech, that'll be an easy flip. It's like, well,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Jami or Gibbs, wasn't.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: They've lost out on another alignment.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I went there, Josh Petty, so like it. Georgia
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Tech's doing some nice things in NIL right now. I
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: don't know where that's coming from. Maybe got some very
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: very good engineers like football, I don't know, but you
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: know they're doing some good things there, and they're putting
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: together a prettod recruiting class and obviously they've had a good,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: pretty good start to the season so far, you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: beating Florist State it was a big thing. So you know,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: we'll see that. That's kind of the first one to
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: kind of yes, a gy to yes. It's the pronunciation.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I think I did pretty well there. I think I
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: got it through.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: If you would have said it with a little more confidence,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I would have bought it.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I know, I was like, well, something, he's got to
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: slow down. It's just if you slow down, it doesn't
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: sound like it sounds like you're lacking confidence. But also
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: like you know, like trip over yourself. So yeah, I have.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: A lot of questions in the queue, but I mean,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I do want to touch upon this from Elsie's abo.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I think Bama beachg A next week. I was not
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: impressed with the Dogs. Again. We're getting away from Ohio
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: State recruiting a little bit. But I think we all
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: probably watched what was it, thirteen twelve or whatever that
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: game ended up being. I just I don't know what
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: was wrong with Georgia. I don't think Georgia is going
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: to be that flat in a lot of games. But
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I think between Alabama and Ole Miss and maybe even
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Tennessee that there's certainly a loss in there. There's certainly
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: at least one loss in there, and that doesn't necessarily
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: knock you out now with twelve teen playoff, but I'm
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: seeing a lot of predictions for the playoff coming in
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: that does not have Georgia coming in as the one
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: seed or two or three or four. So I think
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of people out there are believing that this
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: team is beatable. Carson Beck looked average in the game.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: They were able to run the ball a little bit
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: when they wanted to. I really do not agree with
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Stoops's decision to settle for field goals. In some of
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: those instances, you are a heavy underdog. You're at home,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: so you can kind of control the crowd little bit.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: I just think somewhere at some point you need to
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: you need to, you need to, you know, sack up
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: and go for it.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I just don't know yet about Georgia because
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: they've looked so dominant there, especially in the second half
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: against Clemson. Bye week coming up in Alabama. They sleep
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: walking a little bit into the bye before Alabama. And
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: yet I've also heard you know, I don't, I don't
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: have it in front of me, but I know some
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: of the Georgia guys that we talked to, like some
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: of them, some not, like the beat writers and the
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: recruiting people that cover Georgia that we we know for
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: for covering the you know, doing this for a living
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: for so long, but they seem to be under the
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: impression that they always do this against Kentucky, so that
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: there may be some truth to that too. It's kind
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: of weird. Yeah, And like you know, High Estates got
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: their thing with Purdue, like it just I don't know,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: but you know, so yeah, I'm I'm I'm unsure right
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: now on Georgia because I do know I've seen them
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: look really good. I will see them look very, very
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: very beatable. So and you know, we'll see what we'll
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: see about Alabama. I mean they haven't really I don't
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: think it's been really tested yet. This will be a
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: big game for Kaitlin de boor So. I can't wait
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: for that game. I think it's gonna be awesome. I
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: think it's gonna tell us a lot about where both
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: programs are at right now.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it'll be a good one.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Mellow talking of Melo number seven, who we had the
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: opportunity to meet on Southern Swing this year, talking about
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech being a different ballgame in comparisons to Athens.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: They could be a powerhouse as they actually try to.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, they have proximity to one of the greatest
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: areas of high school talent. I think it comes down
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: to does Georgia Tech get to a point of where
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: it can get some kids into school? And that's you know,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: and with me talking about that, it's not a matter
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: of oh, they're just done. But you know, you sometimes
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: you have your Stanford's or Northwesterns or whatever that have
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: heightened admission requirements. Do they sit there and have what
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: we basically call exemptions to be able to get some
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: kids in. There was a long time under Paul Johnson
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: that they ran an offense that nobody wanted to be
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: any part of whatsoever. They were competing against the service
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: academies for people who could run the trip option. I
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: do think Georgia Tech could be significantly better. I just
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: don't know if that is where the consensus is within
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: that university.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: It feels like they're trying more the last year or two.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: It feels like they are. But again, I'm not inside
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: you know that program or whatever. Just from the outside
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: looking into it. You know, there's been a lot said
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: about their nil kind of picking up here, the cycle
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: and what they've been able to do. So yeah, I
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: mean that's definitely a program. I think it's underachieved quite
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: a bit the last new fifteen twenty years. Get something.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: He asked me a Stuart question. Okay, it's backups right
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: above Omar's super chata. Put that out there, except something
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: we can talk about.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Whose question was it?
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Jordan B. There we go, Jordan B. When you say
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Stuart to Kim Stewart is the first must get since Young?
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Why is it the recruiting services don't agree Tola would
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: be a must get by rating, So I'm not putting him.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't think he's a must get because
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I've seen what else they're bringing in right now on
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: the defensive line, what they've got coming up. Like, I'm
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: just telling you how highly Larry Johnson in the high
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: state of defensive staff feels about your That's that was where
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: that comment was directed, as far as just there being
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: enamored with his skill set. Yeah, I mean JT was
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: obviously huge for them. You know, I don't know where
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: is Stuart among you know, I've had I think that
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I think opinions seem to vary on Stuart a little bit.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I think I've seen I've seen him really really high.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I've seen him not not as high with some other services.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: But yeah, i think his ability to play inside and
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: outside is very unique and do it at a high level.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: So they're kind of telling him like, we'll play you
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: up and down the line depending on situation. So he's
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: not like your pure like speed rusher, like a like
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: a Nick Bosa or a Chase Young he's a guy
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: that would play inside to.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe uh On three has him one overall. ESPN has
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: them one overall. Rivals has him one overall. This is
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: in twenty six. Mind Youssified twenty four seven has him
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: for twelve overall. Not even the top kid in Louisiana.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: They have them too, Okay, So yeah, because I'm a
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: consensus ranking of like fourth.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so like he's super highly ranked. But yeah, and
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know what they'll do on twenty five, what
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: they'll do with that. But he's a unique he's a
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: unique player. Again. But my comment was not so much
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: like they have to get him, because I very rarely
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: do that anyway with like must gets. But I just
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: don't feel like if they miss on Jeqem Stewart that
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: their defensive line is going to go to hell. Like
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I are in really good shape there moving forward. But
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: just in terms of like how enamored I think, or
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: how much Larry Johnson would like to mold that piece
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: of clay or whatever Jaqem's up there, just with how
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: they've talked about some of the other like the Chase
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Youngs and Nick Bosas in the past come out of
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: high school and nick Bosa wasn't, which is hilarious. Now,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: nick Bosa wasn't like a I don't know. He might
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: have been a consensus five star, but he was not
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: like a consensus like top five player.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: No, he was like for a long time in that cycle,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: services had him as a four.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love fifty. That was one.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know. I mean, I I don't
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: it is everyone who does this for the recruiting sites
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: good at it, That's one question. I personally don't think. So.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: I think there's guys who are really really good at it.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: I think there's guys who aren't so great at it,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: and then you have different you know, it's like to look,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: ESPN didn't think Jeremiah Smith was the number one player
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: in the country lash which you know, I made a
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: case for him to not be number one because what
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: is what is your definition of number one? Like, are
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: you trying to pick the best football player or are
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: you trying to pick are you trying prediction W's gonna
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: be a numb one pick in the NFL draft Because
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: those could be two different things. Like, for example, I
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: thought Will Anderson was the best player in the NFL draft,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, but he was never gonna
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: go number one. It was gonna be a quarterback. So
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: do you have to put like a quarterback or like
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: a left tackle or a defensive lineman, like I don't know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Like so that was like mi kay, like if you.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Don't put on post move all the time.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: And I think different networks have different Like I think
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: if you ask like people at one network, they might
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: tell you, oh, we don't care about the NFL draft.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: This is like for college. But then if you ask
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: people on different networks, like no our number one players
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: were trying to predict a successful number one overall player
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: for us would be if he became the number one
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: pick in the NFL draft, and so like as amazing
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: as Jeremiah is, he's got an uphill battle to be
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: the number one pick in the NFL draft as a receiver.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: So I don't know that, but I will tell you
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Like ESPN and I think Jeremy Birmingham kind of called
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: him out on this the other day. ESPN wasn't convinced
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah was even the best wide receiver in the class,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: which is where I kind of like was, like, what
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: are you guys even doing but you know, some people
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: go out the games more than others. It's our industry
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: sometimes is interesting.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Before we sit there and lose our membership
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: to the secret Club of recruiting writers, I will go here.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Mellow number seven Jaquem is ridiculous. Him and Tyler Atkinson
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: would be insane. I also want to throw duce Gerald's
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: in that mix too, because I really love Duce Gerald's
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: and I think Ohio State sits in a much better
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: position with Deuce than Tyler, who has every offer and
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: is going to enjoy every second of the recruiting process.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: And that's not a bad thing. That's not a bad thing.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: But you know, that's that's the of the three names
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I mentioned, I would I would push my chips in
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: ten out of ten times on Deuce.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I think Deuce Gerald's is again, Yeah,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: definitely the most likely of those three. He's another unique talent.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: There's some film out there's some clips out there with
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: him playing running back and just like plowing over people.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: He's a specimen. So that's a guy to get excited
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: about in twenty six as well.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Down there in.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Georgia, Atkinson, to me feels like a kid who's gonna
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: play in the SEC Now, it's like can be Auburn, Alabama, Georgia.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not ready to handicap that one. As
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Kevin said, I think he's gonna have some fun with this,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: but I think it's gonna be a tougher pool. And
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: then again, my my stance on Jaquema is that they've
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: got a shot, but that were you know, probably only
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: in like the second or third ending there, you guys remember.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, you guys should have a membership to Buckeye Huddle.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Mark Well, okay, so are we talking about YouTube members
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: like channel memberships, because we haven't done that on the channel,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: but we do have memberships on the website at buckey
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Huddle dot com. We have a great community there, message board,
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: we do chats, we do insider information, we do all
• 55:05
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• 55:08
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• 55:10
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• 55:12
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• 55:15
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• 55:18
  Speaker 3: that internally. Offering some type of like very low level
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: like you know, dollars ninety nine two dollars ninety nine
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: like membership thing, but we're still kicking that around. It
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: wouldn't change, I don't. It wouldn't change our content strategy
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: on YouTube. It would more just be a thing. Maybe
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: you guys would get a couple extra perpose, like an
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: add on to to what you But like it wouldn't
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: be a thing of like, oh, you have to be
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: a member to watch our YouTube stuff. We don't. We
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: don't want to go in that direction.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: And realistically, we put a lot of stuff out on
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: YouTube that we would probably keep behind the paywall. So
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: it just shows how much we love you all out there.
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• 56:15
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• 56:20
  Speaker 2: do don't do memberships.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: I mean it's so let me, let me, let me
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: just kind of reclarify what we're saying here. It would
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: not be a thing of like you need to have
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: a membership to watch this video or that video. It
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: would more be like, if you wanted to do it,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: you can get like they have like different avatars and
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: different like badges and stuff like that that it's like,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: it doesn't you know.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I meant to do that. I've thought about maybe doing
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: a walk and talk from yeah, like would not or something.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: But nothing nothing to cheap in there, because there's there is.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: No intention of changing, like we're not going to put
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: any of our you huge stuff like we know, we
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: have no intention of doing that. It was just it
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: was a thought about, like they do offer certain like
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: badges and other little stuff like that, and some people
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: may have no interest in that. Other people may have
• 57:11
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• 57:12
  Speaker 2: There's only like one yeah, the movie on right.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Right exactly, So we've talked about that. But yeah, as
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: far as like doing a membership thing where you can't
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: watch our videos unless you remember, we we that's not
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: going to be a thing.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of questions in the queue and
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: we'll you know, some of them will be quicker than
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: others or what get.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Let's get through those, because we're almost at an hour.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, well, we obviously will go past an hour.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: But amka, do you think Marcus Freeman sticks?
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Well, eventually he'll probably get fired, like like just about
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: every other coach. I guess, I guess we're talking about
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: time frames here. I think the fans are really upset
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: right now at Notre Dame. I don't get the sense
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: he's on thin ice with the administration. So yes, I
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: think right now he's still fine.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he sticks at this point because I
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: still think that Notre Dame schedule is soft enough that
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: they can still be ten and two, get into the
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: playoffs like an eleven or twelve, and everything will be fine.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I know that we can kind of got.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: By thirty one at Ole Miss or something in the
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: first round.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Right, go back a couple of years ago when they
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: lost to Ohio State and then they lost to Marshall,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: and that that created some stuff. But you know, if
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: not Freeman, then who But you generally find somebody. But
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I just I don't think that Notre Dame is in
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: the mood to make a quick change. I mean, they
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: do have a different ad. I believe Freeman was hired
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: under Jack Swarbrick. They have a different ad that's always
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of a disconcerting feeling there. But
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't. I don't have him on a
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: particularly warm seat at this point. Doug Shepherd, Ohio State
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: in twenty five closer to thirty or twenty five signees?
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'll be closer to thirty. Obviously. The
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: the million dollar question on that is do they lose
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: anybody that's already you know, do they lose any current commits?
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Is it one? Is it two or three? Like that's
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: kind of I think the real question is to how
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: because you're not gonna One thing they're not gonna do
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: is oh, you know, we lost three guys, Let's go
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: find three three star or guys we don't think, we're
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: not sure can play here guys to replace them. No,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: they'll just they'll portal hunt and they'll But but I
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: tend to think it'll be very close to thirty because
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: they know also like they're gonna go twe five here
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: and Ohio. It's not going to go from eighty five
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: to one oh five overnight. It's going to be a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: multi It could be a multi year process or could
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: be a process. Where As one college coach told me
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, they're not convinced that any
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: that most schools are going to even go to one
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: O five there. They think most schools will settle in,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: you know, in the mid nineties, because it's just going
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: to be so hard to It's hard enough to keep
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: eighty five happy right now, it's going to be so
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: hard to keep one hundred and five happy on your roster.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: So but yeah, I just you know, short answers yet, Yeah,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be closer to thirty.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: The best dampod in the land. The burger King short
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: with Kevin was probably one of my top favorite things
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: of the off season. As uncomfortable as that was, it
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: was less. It was more comfortable than when we almost
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: ran out of gas and took the gas tank down
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: to eight miles out there east of Orlando, in in
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: in the swamps or something. But yeah, I did not
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: enjoy the burger king one bit. I even walked away
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: from the onion rings and mark Dude to have at
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: him if he wanted to, because everything tasted the same
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: and it all tasted like something. Even though we're not
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: we don't have FCC rules over us something. I'm not
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: gonna say. It was horrible. I don't ever want to
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: do that again.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: Are are the funniest part about that gas situation? And
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: there's a short of that in there too, is we're
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: down at like a wait whatever he was eight miles
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: or whatever, and the place we pull into the pumps
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: like it's it's all like it is insane house slow.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: So I sat there for like we had to have
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: sat there for ten or fifteen minutes just to get
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: like half a gallon of gas into the car so
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: that we could drive a little further down the road
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: and get and get to a different gas station.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was brutal. Mika Hannah thoughts on
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: O line new offers. Yeah, yeah, I.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Kind of hit on that one. Yeah yeah, I mean
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: it's a good it's a good art. I think, you know,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: we'll see I think we're gonna see more trickle out
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: here again. This is kind of what we talked about
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: a month ago, which was, let's let the first three
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: or four games of Senior Film come out and see
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: who kind of is jumping out to Ohio state and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: they'll start to offer accordingly. So I think we're gonna
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: start seeing that a little bit, as they also make
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of Mica Debo's is kind of a
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: plan A right now is trying to flip him from Alabama.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Micahanna, again, do you think we continue three linebackers per class?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think generally speaking, yes, but yeah, with with
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Ohio State a lot of times having just two linebackers
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: on the field, it does kind of, I guess, make
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: you think about how they reallocate scholarships. But again, beating
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: a dead horse numbers going up for eighty five, you're
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: gonna lose guys to the portal. It's a very physical position.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of saying this without data, but it
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: just feels like they've had a lot of guys over
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: the years whose careers have been derailed by injuries, specifically
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: at the linebacker position more more than maybe any other position.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: So I think just the nature of the position, wanting
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: to have some flexibility there with guys who can kind
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: of play in different situations, I think yes that that roughly,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: you know, three linebackers per class would be be about right.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Imagine drafting Bryce Young over c J. Stroud And for
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: anybody who didn't enjoy the NFL weekend.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: C J.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Stroud led the Houston Texans to a win over the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears. Bryce Young has just been shown the bench
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: in favor of Andy Dalton. Wow.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Look, I've opined on this a million times, and I
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: I still feel like if I was number one that year,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: I still think I would have drafted Will Anderson. Like,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: I just think he's a generational pass rusher and he's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: obviously off to a great start. But the notion of
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: taking Bryce Young, who fits the physical profile of exactly
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: zero great quarterbacks in NFL history, over c J. Stroud,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: who is like damn near prototype.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: You can't recognize things based.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: On the watch the George. Just watch the Georgia game.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: It's an unbelievable game. He played, even the Georgia. Like
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: people who just think everyone that isn't a Georgia player sucks,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: We're like, this guy's incredible. Yeah that was a and
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: then I didn't care a lot. You give up like
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of picks to move up to take
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Bryce up. On top of it, that, I mean, the
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: forced him on the coaching staff I think was also thing.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: I think they sent like a huge contingent up to
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Ohio State's pro day tepper and his wife and you
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: know everybody. I mean, they fourteen people and it's like, oh,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: that sounds great for CJ. And you know, and he's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: still kind of interjected in the in the in the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: draft room for wanting h Bryce Young and you know
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: who is a midget, sorry, a little person, and we
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: were like, when have you ever seen him? I'm like,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: I went and covered the heisman. I covered the heisman
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: and it's time one and he's tiny. He's tiny. And
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: I understand standing next to you know, standing next to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Stroud and standing next to uh Aiden Hutchinson, you're not
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: going to look like you're the biggest guy. But I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: mean I stood next to him. I'm like, and I'm
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: looking down at him. I'm like, that ain't gonna work.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: I remember when Troy Smith came in at like five
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: eleven and seven eighths and everybody lost their mind that
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: he wasn't six feet tall. Well, Bryce Bryce Young is
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: not six feet tall. He's not five eleven. He's not
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: you know, five ten and seven eights. He's short.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: He's short, but he's slender too. Like he fits the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: physical profile of zero great NFL quarterbacks like I've had
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: people be like, oh, Drew Brees. Drew Brees is two
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: inches taller, much thicker, like No, Bryce young is is skinny,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: and it just and he's not a dynamic athlete. If
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: you're that small, you better be electric, and he's he's not.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a solid athlete, but he's not like
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: a special athlete. I just, I just And I was
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: pro Bryce coming out of high school in terms of
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: like I thought I'd be a really good college player
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: and he was. But drafting him number one overall is
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: it was insane to me at the time. And it's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: not looked very good.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, exactly. Not Not the the Panthers who are
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: going to go and play the journeyman and who rifle
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: JTM burgers and hot dogs and everything else. This one's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: a little early in the week, so I don't know
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: anything on this, but I'll ask it to Mark from Elsie's.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Any big time recruits going to be at the Marshall game.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: I don't have the list yet. I will I will
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: update you guys on that here. I have not made
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: my rounds yet. Most kids don't what I suspect is
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: going to happen here is they're going to try and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: get a lot of the kids in for the Iowa
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: game as far as like out of state. So right
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: now with Martial arm, expecting a lot of in state
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: kids and those you know, a lot of the twenty
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: six kids, like the Elbert Hills of the world. The
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: guys are Jacob Weatherspoons of the world, those types of guys.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: But I think they're trying to as best they can
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: funnel the big out of state kids to like Iowa
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Michigan just some of the bigger games later in the season.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: So we will we will get to the list here.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: In fact, I think it might be a good idea
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: to start doing like a Thursday or Friday recorded not live.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: It's like a little recorded like hey, here's like, you know,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: five or ten kids that.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Are coming pushing, pushing for Thursdays because Fridays can be
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: travel days.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep. So maybe we'll do something like that in
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: the future. But yeah, I start like Tuesday, I start
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: like texting everyone, because texting people three weeks in advance
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: on a lot of this stuff, especially like the Ohio kids,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: it's like all you're gonna do, You're gonna You're gonna
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: get this initial list and then half of them aren't
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: gonna show up, and then they're gonna be replaced by
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: half by fifteen kids who you didn't have.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: It's just I mean, you can count on like Tavan
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: and Carter Low and guys like that being there.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: It's like five star out of state kids yet that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: I've confirmed, but you know I will again. I will
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: work a little more on that here the next couple
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: of days.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Troy V. Could you imagine our year if our coaching
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: staff was as dumb as f SU and broad in
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: DJU portal can be a cruel mistress.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: Very yeah, I mean we are seeing, we are really
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: seeing the pros and cons of the quarterback Transfer Portal
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: this year. Like the schools that made sensible decisions in
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: the Portal, Ohio State didn't, you know, throw half their
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: nil budget at Will Howard. They just they brought in
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: a guy who was more of a culture fit and
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: kind of wanted to, you know, use his skill set
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: like one of his legs a little bit and just
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: kind of have some of that veteran leadership as well.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: Like they were sensible about that. They didn't break them
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: to break the bank to get Will Howard. They knew
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: kind of like, hey, like, whoever are quarterback's going to be?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: They're not going to be our best offensive player. We've
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: got two the best running backs in the country. We've
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: got three the best receivers in the country. Like, we
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: just need someone who's gonna steer this thing and not
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: drive it off the cliff Texas. Obviously, you know, not
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: to open old wounds, but bringing Quinn Eewers back from
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: the abyss at Ohio State for this little cup of
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: tea at Ohio State made a lot of sense. And
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: then you've got the schools who did things that didn't
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: make sense, like Dju and Graham Mertz and those types
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: of guys who are paying the price.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Right now exactly. I mean, it's you know, it seems
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: so easy out there of you know, oh, we're going
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: to be able to do this, and we're going to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: be able to do that, But you just don't know
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: what you're going to get out of the portal. I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: don't remember the player's name transferred from Oklahoma State to
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Ole miss to supposedly take the job away from Jackson
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Dart and wasn't able to do it. You just don't.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: You don't know what's going to happen, so you that's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: why it's so important. Why Ohio State and your major programs,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: I think everybody to a certain extent, you have to
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: have people tasked to the portal. And I want to
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: repeat another story. I know, I said lightning round and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: we're here in an hour ten and I'm telling a story,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: but I think it's a good story. We were at
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: a high school and we bumped into a group of
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: five coach and we were talking to him when we
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: were in the admission office because you have to get
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: signed in to go into a school and everything else,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: and he's like, I know some of the kids that
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I'm here to talk to, I'm not going to get
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: the first time around, but I might be able to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: get him a second time around with the portal and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: everything else. You know, you really start to think about it.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: It's all about having the relationships and keeping up the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: relationships and everything else. And then when names are out there,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: you know, you know what the kids about, You know
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: some of these things, so you're not just sitting there
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: and popping in the tape and you know, like a
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: blind resume, and it's like I don't know. So I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: felt that that was very prophetic to how the portal
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: is handled. Now.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Well, great timing on that story because I'm not going
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: to mention him by name, but and he's still at
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: this school. There was a Memphis coach and he's still there,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: and what do they do on Saturday? He's obviously he's, uh,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: they know what they're doing there. So yeah, that I'll
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: never forget that, just you know, because usually we run
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: you know, called mid majors, you know, group of fives,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to call them. We'll run into them
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: on the road and it's like, you know, we're there
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: for a totally different player than what they're there for,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: and so there's usually not like we can chat and
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: like you know, yuck it up or whatever a little bit,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: but as far as like helping them or them helping us,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: it's like we're not really talking to the same kids.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: But with him, it was like it was like that
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: like that he was like, oh, what do you think
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: of this guy? Or I would ask him, you know,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: and just like because they again they they he had
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: this list of like you know, he's like, I'm recruiting
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: like the top you know, fifty hundred players in the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: country at this position, and you know, if the top
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: twenty say no, I'll you know, I'll get back at
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: when they're in the portal in a year or two.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: So it's the support staffs, as Kevin mentioned, are really
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: big right now in Ohio. State does a ton of
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: research on this stuff, a ton of video to go
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: through during portal season.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: John Moore wondering how the donors are reacting to the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: scandal at Michigan, Well, we know what the recruiting class
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: looks like, and it ain't great. I think that they're
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: probably has to be at least a little bit of
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: a wait and see, But you know, I certainly have
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: seen there's I follow a Michigan Border regent guy who's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: insane and you know, I'm not going to name him
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: since I just said he's insane and the you know
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: hashtag bet they're all in. But you know, if I'm
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: smart money, I'm probably being very careful on how my
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: donations are being or being taken care of. And I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: probably would be more willing to donate to the school
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: than to the collective at this point because I just
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: don't know, or maybe just hold off until we do
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: finally see the in a A. I mean, I've not
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not talked to any Michigan donors. I don't know
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: if I know any Michigan donors. In fact, I'm sure
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know any Michigan donors. But I they can't.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: You lower yourself, Kevin.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, I I'm not opposed to having rich friends.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I I my general again, my general just from
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: like the outside, watching some of the Twitter behavior, watching
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: all of the the schools behavior, which seems to have
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: the backing of the boosters or else they wouldn't keep
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: kind of the same tactics they're using. Excuse me, like
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: they don't have any shame. But that's just that's just
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: my opinion. I I you know, I asked Chris about
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: that a while ago.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure we read the question.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the best damn pod in the land Mark. Have
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: you heard anything about Chris Henry reclassify. I do not
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: think he will, but it keeps circulating.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I I did ask Chris about this like
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: a while ago, and he said no, I haven't like
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: tested him about it recently, like super super recently. It's
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: not something that I'm expecting, but I guess you never know.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: I know he's he's having a really good time out
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: in California.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: So it modern Boss beat Gorman a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, that's not some thing I'm particularly
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: confidence going to happen. But I'll probably I'll follow up.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: There's only so many times like hey Chris, every week,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: Hey Chris, you're reclassifying. But yeah, I did kind of
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: broach out them a while back and was told no,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: but we'll see. Things can change. And that's really not
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: a decision he would have to make for a while.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: I guess he could make it.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Probably might have to make it by the summer because
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: he probably next year.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd have to. He'd have to get into some Yeah,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: I mean he would probably have to make that decision and.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Be like kind of like it's not really enrolled. But
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: I mean it's hard, and you know, I don't I don't,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I mean, how many guys get
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: to I mean, do the early at modern day. I
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: assume that as a powerhouse, they probably have some so
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: I mean they certainly would have a plan, but you know,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Do you let them have they do let them do
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: this because JT. Daniels did it coming out of their
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: so that was so it shouldn't be like a JACKEM.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: Stewart situation or Paris Johnson situation. Even with rolling early,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: they let JK. Daniels was able to reclassify coming out
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: of modern day. So I believe that any modern day
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: player can.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: I think Asian Posh Storene, who is a new friend
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: of ours. We thank you for all the support on
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Twitter for or ex formally known as Twitter. Your Southern
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Swing was awesome. Saw your pick with Mellow. We did
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: get to go out and have some wings and a
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: couple of beers with with Mellow at one of our
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: favorite places in the Atlanta suburbs. And unfortunately that night
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: every beer I ordered they were out of I remember
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: that very well. I think it got down to like
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: a fourth or fifth try and I'm just finally like whatever,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: and you know, but it was. It was. It's always
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: great meeting members out on the road. Southern Swing. We
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: wish that we could. I don't need it to be
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: any longer. We went three weeks this year. That was
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: too long, but you know, we always lament that we
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: don't have another day. Or two of off time to
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: be able to do larger meat and greets. But we
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: do value the people who work with us in our schedule,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: and of course we never turned down free food or
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: free beer.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: That that those wet lemon pepper wings were life changing,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: like the dry lemon peppers, like the rage right now
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: or every one, but like, uh, they add wet lemon
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: pepper wings and like I said, that was a game changer.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: That's like must order now when I go back.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: There, that and that and the the the case.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I always get that, but I'd always get like
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: something else with it, And now it's like, Nope, I'm
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: getting those wet lemon pepper wings.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Mika Hannah. Purdue is building something something with Ohio kids
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: for next year. Galloway, Beerman and Pavey.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're doing a nice job. Look, Ohio State's got
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: such a national brand right now, there's going to be
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: some kids available. I really like Galloway. I think I
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: think he's a tremendous player. I think he's worked very
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: hard in the classroom to kind of get where he
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: needs to get now. I think he's worked very hard
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: off the field and with his training. I've been out
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: to some of his training sessions back in like the spring.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: I think they're getting a real good one there, for.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Sure, Doug Shepherd, we should do a big cookout get together.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to use this as an opportunity. This is
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: not a paid spot for them, but we are. We
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: have been working with Tailgate USA, who you can bring
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: the tailgate to yourself. That can bring you a tent,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: They can bring you a trailer. You need a bartender,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: they can bring you a bartender as well. You know,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: full service where there. I think that they're in sixteen
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: states at this point. We're trying to maybe ink a
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: longer term deal with Tailgate USA, but that would be
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: great to have some sort of event. We've tried to
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: do some Central Ohio events. It's hard to do one
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: in conjunction with a game day. I mean, obviously you'd
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: have to do it on like the Friday, because on
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: the Saturday, Tom, Tony and myself very focused on the game.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Mark is very focused on the recruiting, ramifications and reaching kids.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: So it's never been possible, but we would love to
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: find a Friday to be able to do something like that.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: So Doug, it's not out of our it's not out
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: of our minds. It's just something that we've not been
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: able to pull off. I mean, I mean, we did
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago do something at one of
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: the local breweries, had a pretty good turnout. But you know,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: I want to have I want to have a rager.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: I want to have a keager or something like that.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go and have a keger on Indianola
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: somewhere and some you know, some fraternity houses front yard.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about this at length, just how we
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: figure something like this out. So FA would have like
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: ideas for how to make it work for everybody, because
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: the other thing with the game weekends is, yeah, people
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: come to different times, Like if it's a night, it's
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: a Saturday night games, some people fly in Saturday morning
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: and some people will get in there Friday. Some people
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: come in midweek and just spend a few days. So
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: it's like it's really hard to it's like hurting cats
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: basically trying to get you know, thirty forty fifty board
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: members together to do it.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, here, Scott O'Neil says, do it next bye week.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: I'll probably be caught up and sleep from Oregon by
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: then that is the nineteenth of October, and that's part
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: of the way the Big Ten has done it. If
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: you fly west to go play one of those four teams,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to get the next week being a bye week.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I mean it would be it would be interesting, but
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: you know we have to We'll kick it around. We'll
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: kick it around. I can't make any promises. The problem
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: is that a lot of out of out of towners
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: aren't going to be in town, so it's going to
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: be great for people in Columbus. I'm not opposed to
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: doing something for people in Columbus, but then I always
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: get a little, you know down when people are like, oh,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: I really would have liked to have gone, but I
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: didn't have a reason to be in Columbus. So you know, well,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: we'll kind of figure that one out. AD still trying
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: to figure out who the kid from is from Newberry.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: I've seen Newberry the last three years and no kid
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: has really popped. Solid program, but did not think any
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: kid was O issue caliber. That kid would be jarqust
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Carter Uh, a defensive tackle six two to sixty six
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: who we had the opportunity at the Ohio State camp
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: to see him get a little bit more individualized coaching
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: from Larry. So this is not something that was just
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: like a tape offer or whatever. He worked out, he
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: earned the offer. I think he's an impressive looking kid.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: They really like him. Like there was a point back
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: in the spring where I felt like Carter and Malie
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: Gautry were like their top two defensive tackles, but they
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: wanted on their board. He's very quick, he's more he's
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: bigger than Robert Landers, but he's more like Robert Landers.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: And he is like a big guy like Kaden McDonald,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: but super quick, can get out of the past, and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: so they like him quite a bit. I've just I've
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: seen a little bit of camp stuff. I've not seen
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: him play in person at this point, but I know,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: like I said, I know they've been recruiting him for
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: they were before he got his commitment. They've been recruiting
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: him for over a year, so they really liked them.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: It's just me and Tim seventy nine. Is Ohio State
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: the most talented after Week three? I mean, I think
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: you have to kind of put Texas in the mix too.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have quinn Ewers go down Arch Manning
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Goes goes insane and that game has big numbers there.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I still think Georgia is very talented. I just don't
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: know if they are connected at this point. I think
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: I think that there there are there is a cut
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: of teams in the SEC, and maybe you know, I'm
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: looking at the Big ten. I'm trying to figure out
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: who's number two in the Big Ten. Oregon seemed to
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: kind of figure it out at the end of the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: of the of the Civil War against Oregon State. I mean,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: obviously USC is playing very well. I'm going to reserve
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: judgment on the Trojans until after this week when they
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: travel to take on the team up north. But you know,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: I think I think Ohio State is certainly on the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: short list. Are they? Are they the most I'm biased.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: I cover this team. I see this team. I know
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: all eighty five players to a certain extent. I don't
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: know if I can extricate myself and to see the
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: forest for the trees.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: I think I would take the Ohio State roster, at
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: least the starting lineup. Look, I thought quin Shawn john
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: on record, I thought quin Shawn Judkins was the best
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: running back in college football when he was an old miss,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: so my opinion on that hasn't changed, especially after he
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: essentially went like ten carries two hundred yards three touchdowns
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: last week, giving him giving him a and.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, got the you know,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: got the the touchdown taken off by yeah.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: Right, Like you know, they've got two elite running backs.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: I think they've got the best receiver Cord in the country.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: We've got the best defense in the country. You know,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: We've always respected what type of player Caleb Downs is,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: so we did that. We respected him when he was Alabama,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: So why wouldn't we do it now? I just I
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: really do you know, there's there's positions, of course that
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: I think you would take, you know, maybe a guy
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: from Texas or a guy from Georgia, certainly over what
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: what Ohio State's got. But you know, certainly the offensive
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: line is still the off. Look, the office's life played
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: much better Game two than Game one, so we'll see
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: if that continues. That's kind of an area of like
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: wait and see for me. But I just think the
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: star power, like they have some guys that I think
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: are truly like generational, like Tale Downs, Jeremiah Smith. These
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: are guys these are like, to me, like Chase Young caliber,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: just total game changers or not just your standard like
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: first team All BI ten guys. They're they're like a
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: next level to that, and then they're surrounded by a
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: whole bunch of guys like that, you know, those first
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: team All BI ten guys. So I don't know. I would, uh,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: I would, I would take the Ohio State roster personally.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: Cat's complaining that I'm not that I'm not sitting at
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: the at the on the sofa right now. Scott O'Neill
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: never heard about Henry's wide receiver buddy who visited earlier.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Anything there for OSU to be encouraged about.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: So I got a little bit burned by the Jordan
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: Davison thing, which kind of had several twists and turns
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: that I don't know that anybody could have predicted, including
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: Tony Alford going to Michigan. But I just I'm kind
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: of in the see it to believe it phase right
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: now with Ohio State getting a modern day kid, there
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: just have been so many close calls. And by the way,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm assuming you're talking about Kayden Dixon Wyatt is
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: it's a player I guess I should have clarified that
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: they've had him on campus. I know Chris is really
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: kind of spreading the gospel of Ohio State football in
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: modern day. So I think they're gonna be on the
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: shortlist again for another modern day kid. But I'm almost
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: to the point of, like I have to actually see
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: a kid from modern day commit to a account.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there for a couple of years, but he doesn't count.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Right, you know, Texas I think has a lot of
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: capital there right now. We'll see, But yeah, they're gonna
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: be on the short list, and so we'll see if
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: they can overcome this time. It's been what four or
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: five close calls. I think over the last few.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: Years, nobody landed since Nikki su Alua. This may be
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: our last question unless we get a super chat or
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: something that catches us before we jump out the air.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Scott O'Neill and I can answer this one, and Mark
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: and chime in. Does OO issues submit any type of
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: evaluation on the reps after each game? Would they point
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: out not a single penalty called on Western Michigan. I
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: don't remember Western not having any penalties called, but I'm
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: sure that everything is touched upon. You do send in
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: evaluations kind of each week. I mean they go to
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Bill Corolla, who is the head of officiating for the
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Big Ten. We've had the opportunity to talk to him
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: in the past, just you know, things that we would
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  Speaker 2: like clarification on or to we looked closer, you know,
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  Speaker 2: look closer, Ryan Day. Not putting the officials on blast
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  Speaker 2: in public certainly helps that communication. If you sit there
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  Speaker 2: and you start doing that, you're not going to really
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  Speaker 2: hear as much back. But that you know, some soft penalties,
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  Speaker 2: I think you know, he'll be looking to hear back,
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  Speaker 2: and we do occasionally if there's something so egregious that
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: needs to be addressed, we will bring it up on
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday and we'll get the Well, they said it was
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  Speaker 2: a penalty, and I really can't say anything else, and
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  Speaker 2: that's just kind of where it goes. But but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I did not know that they didn't have a penalty
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  Speaker 2: called I'm now I'm going to have to jump into
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  Speaker 2: a book and look afterwards and see because you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 3: So this is what I wish I had, like everything
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  Speaker 3: in my fingertips that I've seen before because someone I
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  Speaker 3: don't have it in front of me. I wish I did.
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  Speaker 3: I wish I could remember who did it. Someone actually
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: did like a study on this, and every like the
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  Speaker 3: notion that from everyone in college football is like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you know there's Ohio State in Alabama getting all the
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  Speaker 3: call you know, there's this thing that like the great team,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: the best teams, Georgia Highst. Alabama, they get all the calls.
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm actually to study on this, and it's
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: actually the opposite. Oftentimes, they seem to overpower team so
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: much that they don't get a lot of calls they
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: get they get called for more penalties and their opponents.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: Opponents get away with more, they get away with less.
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  Speaker 2: I have the number. I have the numbers up for
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  Speaker 2: the Western game. Western was called for one penalty for
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  Speaker 2: two yards. Ohio State was called for six penalties for
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  Speaker 2: fifty eight yards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, yeah, it's almost if I had time to
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: prepare for that, like that question, like we had pre
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: done the questions, I might have been able to find it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll see if I can find it later on. I'll
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: try and do a Google search or something. But I'm
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: pretty sure there was like this. I read about this study.
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  Speaker 3: This was maybe a year or two ago. That was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: so you think so you think these great programs get
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: all the calls, Well, let me tell you they actually don't.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, there is some like inherent I think biased
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  Speaker 3: because you are talking about like with college football, you
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: get such a gap between certain teams you have these
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: games are forty fifty point spreads, and it's almost like
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: the refs take pity sometimes even if it's like subconsciously
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: it's not like an act, like an active decision they're making,
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  Speaker 3: but just subconsciously. But yeah, it's it apparently is a
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: thing according to this one study that I read like
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  Speaker 3: a year or.
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  Speaker 2: Two ago, and Scott O'Neil says, I sort of recall
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: that too. So we've gotten to a stopping point here
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: at ninety minutes. We're thirty second short of ninety minutes,
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I think I think we put in
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: an honest day's work here.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about you know said we want to get
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: we want to go to about an hour and but
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: we know it's always going to spill over a little
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: bit with questions and things, so we appreciate everyone showing up.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: But it looks like we're doing pretty well today with
• 1:31:00
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• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: it's always the perfect time for everybody, people at work
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: and things like that, but this is kind of a
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• 1:31:11
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• 1:31:15
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• 1:31:18
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• 1:31:21
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• 1:31:23
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• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: games if I'm traveling for high schootball games. So Monday
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  Speaker 3: for us, but encouraging We've got we have more traffic
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