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Where do we go from here? Take two · United We Scan

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  You're listening to united. We scanned podcast the views and
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  representative. Thank you.
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  And welcome back. This is episode 14.
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  Take two, however, Mike wasn't with us Sunday, but he is back
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  with us. Josh will be coming in a little
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  bit late but we have mr. James again with us today, nice
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  to have you back and of course, Bill and myself, Mike.
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  I know it's been a rough weekend and a couple days for you, but
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  how are you otherwise? Today I'm tired and a little bit
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  sore, but yeah, we'll just go with that.
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  Otherwise, I took bills, beverage suggestion and I'm
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  working on one right now. So I am putting it on as a
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  completely sober evening again. So this time without the
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  technical difficulties, Beholder.
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  Those at I do apologize to the listeners who were like, hey,
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  I'm going to listen to this and then I get messages going.
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  I get past the intro, and there's no sound.
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  And I'm like, oh no. So Josh called me out on the
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  route yesterday and let me know. So I went ahead and when I had
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  him over it and was pulled over, I unpublished the episode.
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  But yeah, we had a little bit technical difficulty, we had an
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  awesome to hour and 15 episode hour and a half of sewed that
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  unfortunately did not have. A single thing recorded.
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  So, here we are take two, and I'm going to introduce James yet
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  again. So, hi James, how are you?
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  Oh, it's a beautiful night tonight?
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  Yes, yesterday was crazy in the office with the volume that we
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  had missed the day. It was like nothing.
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  So I'm on a good day today. Yeah how's it going?
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  Dear. It comes.
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  It goes, he comes, he goes it's the same shit seen characters
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  different day. Just, you know, one of those
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  things where I get up in the morning, I pronounce some
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  contractual language and they go in and piss off management, so
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  it's all good. I live for it.
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  I know you do. So anyways, what we had started
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  to record and due on Sunday is obviously the The big
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  announcement on the whole. Rex Fiasco yet.
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  Again that came out Saturday. I am going to pull that up and
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  we'll kind of go over it again. For those that don't know.
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  But if you're on any type of social media, I am pretty sure
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  you are. Well aware of what's going on.
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  Yeah, this this will be interesting to say the least.
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  Yes, here we go again. So this is what we're looking at
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  for luminary route, classification changes.
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  auxiliary routes current wrote seven thousand two hundred and
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  seventy with the implementation of wrecks, with a go to seven
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  thousand three hundred and one that's a chain engine edition of
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  31 auxiliary routes H routes 3427 jumping to 13,000 142.
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  Gaining 9000 715th routes. Jay ropes, 5012, jumping to
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  11,000 429 for additional 6417. And here's the really sad, 1K
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  Route. 60, 5910 dropping to 49,000 747.
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  That is the loss of 1163 K routes.
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  That's a grand. Total of 80 1620 routes weekly
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  difference. We had those that lost eight or
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  more hours with 17% of the routes that 13,000 739, those
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  that lost for 27 Hours, 27 percent at 22,000 205.
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  Loss of three, two, one hour was 18252 for 22% of the routes.
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  Only 6% of the routes, did not change their, our, their weekly
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  evaluation, and that's only 4958 routes.
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  Now those that did add We had those added 1 to 3 hours was
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  11,000 route. So 14% 427, our gain with 7050
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  to for only nine percent. And those who added eight or
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  more hours was four thousand four hundred and fifty nine
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  four, five percent 100 percent total.
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  There says a total of 80 1665 so that is actually 45 route.
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  Difference. Between.
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  Anybody else notice that? Yeah.
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  Yeah. Where, where did they go to the
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  rest of or added between the 2018 count and now?
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  Okay, are they the ones in Sonora, California?
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  It's an auxiliary route to offices and things like that
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  after the last count, okay? That has been filed and an
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  unfair Labor practice charge. the step 4, I do believe has to
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  pertain to them not giving us the Information that they
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  requested several times over the past year.
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  And it was specifically stated that it was good.
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  Supposed to be mutually agreed upon between the two parties.
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  And which obviously if they have not provided the information we
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  can't go over it and I can honestly say I'm pretty sure
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  that 100% of the carriers have not received any information
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  pulmonary information for their route so that's where that's
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  coming from. I know that's true for me.
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  It's true for me as well. And my office, it's true for the
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  last 365 days before the mini mail survey that no, carrier
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  received any information of the radar report or any other
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  information regarding to the volumes on their routes.
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  However, some offices were giving radar reports near the
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  end here when they finally became available on the computer
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  system but even those were messed up.
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  So, Then you hold it all. It correlate the day of the
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  receiving, the bundle Flats to the radar reports.
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  That's the point. Exactly.
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  Exactly. It has to be a live report of
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  that day's mailing has what it needs to be.
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  And management is unable to do that.
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  And you know, even our Union has said that these reports are
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  anywhere from two three, four days to two weeks out. so how do
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  I as a carrier sign-in sheet, verifying the numbers, when you
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  can't even tell me when the numbers originated where they
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  came from and what days they think you know correlate to in
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  regards to the mini mail survey I will say this about that paper
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  it said we were only certifying them in email survey.
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  Yeah, one that they wanted us to silence, verifying the numbers
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  of them in email survey and if their management was not in
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  putting the numbers and it was not in printed ink from a
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  printer and they did not input the numbers for you correctly
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  and therefore you should not assign a sheet of paper saying
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  that you agree that the numbers are right on there unless they
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  printed it out, like my office did well.
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  Daily. She of the numbers that were
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  counted each day to each route. So I will give her that.
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  Well, I remember her baby. We never got the daily volume
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  reports. And that again, is another thing
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  you want to sign for? Because you are supposed to have
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  received the daily volume reports from your management.
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  And then at the end of the two weeks, verify those numbers to
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  the numbers, they input on this sheet and then sign the sheet.
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  Yeah. Didn't happen, didn't sign.
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  So where do we go for a nail? Well of course you know April
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  1st is a day that they say they're going to have the new
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  4241 Zhou available for us as we all know.
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  April 1st is April Fool's Day so let's see if they actually show
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  up. it will be interesting, it will be I'm running two routes.
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  Well. So what else is new?
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  Yeah, you know back to being the only I see in the office.
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  Yeah. And I don't know.
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  You're here. Outnumbers the jokes are on you.
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  Yeah. I was just wondering was if he
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  all discussed this on the other the other day but with what the
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  number of routes going down? Do you think that the with the,
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  with the mapping And the the fine-tooth comb Inge of the edit
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  books and 4040 03s that some of these routes are dropping simply
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  because the pad thing has been exposed and and purged.
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  Um, I believe, yes, I do. I also think this Falls in line
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  where they say that 70% of the routes no longer have Amazon and
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  that 66 percent drop falls into that 70.
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  Yeah. And as well as, you know, the
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  30% that do that didn't have Amazon at the last count.
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  I got it afterwards. My office is one of Us kind of
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  Falls in line or that 26% that went up but people also have to
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  remember, the mail volume decrease.
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  We've had the last five years. Yep.
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  We have not had this discussion with my cue.
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  Yeah. We have not had any type of mail
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  count in five years unless you were one of the rare ones, I had
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  a special account, we have not had a male count in five years.
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  Yeah. I had this discussion with my
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  manager, actually, today about this and we were talking about
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  our office and what's going to happen to our routes.
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  And the main thing that we were talking about is, how has our
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  routes changed between the last mail account and this one
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  letters and flats are way down for sure.
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  But package volumes are either the same or gone up and for my
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  area, specially house house numbers have gone up.
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  We've had expansion in our areas.
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  We have the housing boom going on with multiple Builders
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  building neighborhoods in our areas and things like that.
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  And that's one of the reasons my route was before I got into it.
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  Got cut was because they added two more neighborhoods on to
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  that route and those neighborhoods actually.
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  Put it up over 48 so they had to cut it back.
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  Well the carrier that was on it was also padding the route to
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  with the other book and when I finally got on the route it was
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  a 43. I got into the edit book and I
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  dropped it to a 41 just with the edit book alone, just getting
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  everything accurate and that was even before we had talks about
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  going to the rec system and all that stuff.
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  I've been sitting at a 41 42 k for the last since I got on the
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  route and the volume that I have.
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  I'm working almost my evaluation every day with the volume that I
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  have. So I'm not afraid of my route
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  going down per se because of that, but there are people that
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  had a lot of flats and lot of letters on their routes that
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  don't have those anymore. But because their last count was
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  when they had those heavy Flats, they're going to go down and
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  there's there's no argument on that because their route has
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  been padded. Buy stuff.
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  That's no longer there. Like for bill for one when he
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  increased with losing the hours. Yeah, I mean you know I think
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  for some of those routes that might be a wash Yeah, because
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  I'm in that boat to. I was when I took over my route,
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  three years ago, it was a 43 and then our office lost FSS also.
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  And then I went up to a 45 and, I looked at I found the old the
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  last 40 to 41 for my route and it said it was about 80 or 90
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  Parcels a week or whatever. That number is.
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  And I've been and I've been at that pretty much I've been
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  staying at that number usually above, I'm usually above that.
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  I mean with with now, with everything being recognized, a
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  thing, with the barcode being recognized as a parcel, I'm way
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  over that. So, I think it, I think it
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  might, it might be a wash or I might lose a couple hours, but,
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  you know, we when I, when I transferred to my office, we
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  were heavy heavy Amazon. And then, and then they started
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  delivering in our area and it's gone down.
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  But we still get a fair amount that we still get a fair amount
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  of Amazon dropped off at our office.
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  So, You know, it's it's going to be.
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  I think it's going to be a crapshoot.
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  Yeah, you're dealing with when you're dealing with shit Edge,
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  it's going to be a crapshoot. Well I'm going to say this, you
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  know, the carriers that are out there that are on a 4445 K route
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  and are getting done between 1:00 and 2:00 in the afternoon.
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  Maybe three on a Monday, are the ones that are going to go down
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  and it's not because the carrier so fast or because the carrier's
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  this or that, it's because that route volume has gone down from
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  the last count. They had.
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  And I don't mean to be a pessimist of to the individuals
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  that are super fast on the route.
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  I know carriers that can do my route 2 hours faster than I do.
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  But at the same time, they're not getting done at 1:00 in the
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  afternoon on a heavy day. They're getting done at 3:00 in
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  the afternoon, on a heavy day getting done at 2:00 on a late
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  day and Mike mine. Scheduled until little after
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  4:00 in the afternoon. But if they're, if I'm getting
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  done at 1:00 at my my speed that I do, my sons will be getting
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  done at noon on my route. If that was the case.
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  But it's all dependent on the volume that your route has.
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  Now one of the things that I saw posted in social media was the
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  the credits that you get for delivering things in the mileage
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  between boxes. You know, we used to get paid by
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  the mile and it was so many minutes per mile is what 12
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  minutes a mile to. But if you look at the credits
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  now, under Rex system. The only one that's under 12
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  minutes. A mile is your dead head to your
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  first box and from your last box.
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  And that's nine point five minutes per mile.
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  The rest of them are all over 12 minutes whether it's the short
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  distance between two boxes, that are right next to each other or
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  it's the distance from one box and an Xbox in the quarter mile
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  away. That one was was, I believe
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  sixteen point five minutes. My own that one and the short
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  boxes was like almost 20 minutes per mile for the short boxes.
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  Yeah. That's, you know, with that
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  speed Matrix thing that they come out with that also is, you
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  know, and I had to explain that to a co-worker of mine as well
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  as that's doing away with the elf status.
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  So there will be no, not onl status ropes anymore.
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  The language is still there in the contract, and this contract,
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  you're still going to be an L or an en el route.
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  It just doesn't apply any any bonuses to it.
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  Like it used to. Yeah, if you were an average, 12
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  boxes are more per mile, your box value Factor.
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  Actually, I think was down. Whereas nose up, was it higher
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  if you are shorter? It was off.
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  It was higher your volume Factor was higher.
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  I'm a shorter route than a longer route.
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  Yeah, that's right. Because remember all the routes
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  in my office as of right now are out routes except for two.
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  And that would be my Ox route and the other route in the same
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  zip code as my auction at the 93 mile wrote.
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  Those are the only two that are not Nat currently.
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  Outs. Ben's.
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  And the big one is that lock of FSS is a big one for a lot of
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  routes to, but we're going to go into that right now.
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  Like we talked about in the deleted episode to take one of
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  this. Yes, Bell go we have several.
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  Yeah, Bill we were talking about in that take one about how you
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  had FSS on your route in during the last count.
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  You had how many trays compared to what you had just Before they
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  took away the FSS? Yeah.
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  Well, you know, in our office we average, the, my route average
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  with 639 boxes and we would average anywhere from seven to
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  12 trays of FSS. By the time we got to the end of
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  FSS, I was, you know, averaging a tray or two unless they ran a
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  thick catalog through their per day.
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  So working in numbers out and at 43 Flats of minutes which is our
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  rate for the FSS Flats, I needed 182 trades a week.
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  The makeup, the four hours that they gave me when they dissolve
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  the FSS from our office. Now, you're not even getting a
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  tray now, are you? Come on?
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  Yeah. And we don't slap.
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  Yeah, they're going now and and the bundle Flats you know.
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  Okay find that makes up for some of them but I'm only getting
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  bundled Flats twice a week and I'm only getting, you know, four
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  to five bundles, you know, on a Monday.
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  And then again on a Thursday or Friday That's not correlating
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  into 182 trays the FSS. It's like the only time we
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  really get bundled Flats in my office.
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  I mean, we never had a fuss but our boneville Flats.
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  We get Friday, Saturday, and Monday.
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  And I mean, we might get a, a bundle one other day, Tuesday,
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  through Thursday, but mostly it's Friday Saturday.
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  Monday is when we get the bulk of it.
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  You have back when I started we would get to Gaylord for bundled
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  Flats every day. And now we're down to half a
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  Gaylor Atmos so Flats aren't there periodicals were, you
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  know, you were saying before James Sunday that you know, a
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  lot of those periodical magazine subscriptions.
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  You know, this is your last printed version.
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  The next one will be Yeah. Yeah, and it's the same with
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  like I had a newspaper comb, every couple of weeks that would
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  be for every house in both ZIP codes in my office, every house
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  in our office would get a get a newspaper business, and
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  residential every address, and that newspaper shut down about a
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  month ago. And now we're talking about now
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  we talking about getting rid of the red pumps to, that's another
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  loss that we're going to To take.
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  Yeah, and the mail volumes not fair, but package volume, I
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  think eventually is going to be the ruling factor of everything
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  and we may just go from delivering just letters and
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  third class mail, we may just go to.
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  Everything's got a barcode if you want it, going through the
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  Postal Service, you got to pay for tracking barcode on it.
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  Because the thing is that we're going to we're stuck, providing
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  a service. The service were providing is
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  government document delivery. That's the main purpose of the
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  post office where there to serve papers to people, whether it be
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  court, papers, find tax documents things like that.
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  That's our main purpose is government mailings.
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  And the rest of it, just pays the bills.
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  Yeah, it's one of the things that surprised me when I started
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  working for the post office is how especially the
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  business-to-business mail. Is how much business to business
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  stuff is still done with paper checks.
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  If you have a business that that sends out, if you have
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  businesses that have to pay a lot of bills or do Services, I
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  have a couple of, I have a couple of folks who run their
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  landscaping or lawn care business, has from their homes.
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  And the amount of mail they get with folks paying their bills
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  is, you know, you know, I'll have I'll have an inch and
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  they'll for them like, daily. So, yeah, I've got a couple
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  Township treasure so when the County Treasurer.
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  So, you know, when property taxes are due, you know, I'm
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  picking up a lot out of her box to send out because, you know,
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  they do it from home. And then everybody sending them
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  back to her famous so yeah. Yeah I mean stuff like that but
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  yeah other than that I mean a lot of it goes down.
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  I mean it's I deliver more junk than anything anymore.
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  Yeah, but people complain about third class mail, but third
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  class mail is one of the revenue streams that we have F.
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  And I know for a fact that I have some customers that
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  actually enjoy getting the red plums in the weekly ads and
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  things like that. Oh yeah, I had a I had my
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  supervisor tell me he was shutting down a box is all I got
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  was third class mail and I turned around and told him they
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  that's all they get and they take it.
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  I asked They actually stopped delivering the red pumps one day
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  because I thought they're not getting any mail there, must not
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  be anybody there and the customer came out and asked me
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  where their weekly ad was, they actually look forward to getting
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  their weekly a huh. Yeah, I had a customer on one of
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  my route. So it left a note, the Box, we
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  haven't gotten the coupons in a while or they just still doing
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  them that what you know, we don't have room, we got em
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  Sparks. And I noticed today because we
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  only get him Sparks on the last Tuesday of the month and only
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  are I mean, ZIP code gets them. So are two other zip codes don't
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  get in which is fine by me. But before we were just getting
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  the coup the the adipose and but today we actually got the card
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  to go with him. So other carriers are like what
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  do we do with this? I said, are they addressed?
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  They're like, yeah, I looked at it.
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  I said that, is your said that's your letter, walking sequence, I
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  said, and your ad vosges bun, I was here.
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  I said, that's your flat box holder.
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  So I had to, you know, explain that to them because they never
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  really dealt with the marriage male like that.
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  Before in my office, I was used to it my old office.
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  We always had them that way the card and they had bows but yeah,
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  it's I'm interested in pretty much every way right there.
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  Yeah. The the other thing that we
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  talked about IPM and I were talking about these evaluations
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  and stuff and we were talking about, do we think that carriers
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  not in putting their stuff in the scanner hurt them and for
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  things like the monthly Shoppers Mercury advertisements that you
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  get once a month, not a big, big effect.
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  Tan move valuations, but your unscanned parcel, your will
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  reach customer your stamp stock sales, those affect your
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  evaluation, big-time any scan, you can do that legitimate
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  benefits your route and those that were doing the, minimum six
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  cans are going to get the minimum evaluation for their
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  route. In everything you do.
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  On top of that, adds to it. Even those monthly Advils may
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  add a minute or two to your route but every minute or two
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  you add to. It is a benefit to your route.
• 29:06
  Yeah. Because you're then getting full
• 29:07
  coverage for that day and we all know Tuesdays are one of the
• 29:11
  lightest days of the week and you want to add that full
• 29:14
  coverage, let alone double full coverage by having the marriage
• 29:17
  mail. You want that and you want to
• 29:22
  get, make sure that's inputted. Yeah, and you want to make sure
• 29:27
  that every hold that you take out that has more than eight
• 29:31
  pieces to it isn't unscanned parcel?
• 29:34
  Yes. Yep.
• 29:35
  Whether you put it, whether you put it in the mailbox, so you
• 29:37
  take it to the door or any of that stuff, doesn't matter.
• 29:41
  The rules on Rex, say that in unscanned hold mail that has
• 29:45
  more than eight pieces is an unscanned parcel and that's post
• 29:49
  coming from the union side and the management training that I
• 29:54
  got. So lucky to get to go.
• 29:55
  Oh to, I got to go to the mini mail survey training for
• 29:59
  management and listen to that stuff and it may even said
• 30:02
  anything. Any old male.
• 30:04
  It's over eight pieces and then scan parcel.
• 30:07
  Yeah, bill. And I got to go attend that as
• 30:09
  well. But yeah.
• 30:13
  It's in a, you know, and I went back and I made sure that all my
• 30:17
  carriers new you're taking that hold mail back then that, you
• 30:23
  know, you got more than eight pieces in there and I, I know
• 30:27
  plenty of people that get more than eight pieces on a daily,
• 30:30
  um, that you know, that's You know, that's a nonce.
• 30:36
  Can parcel you you you want that credit?
• 30:39
  Definitely. Yeah.
• 30:42
  Because we had our weekly Shopper used to be put out by
• 30:46
  the Kansas City newspaper. Then they stopped doing it for a
• 30:51
  couple weeks. And then the, the main grocery
• 30:54
  store that was doing it started putting it out on their own.
• 30:59
  So we got it back. And now what they've been doing
• 31:02
  is the last couple, at least, at least a couple of times.
• 31:10
  Now, some of our other monthly which would normally be a full
• 31:15
  coverage, our value male circular and there was another
• 31:21
  one have been included in it. It's been super thick like it
• 31:25
  was today. so, so we're kind of losing out on a monthly on a
• 31:32
  monthly coverage or two, But at the same point where the same
• 31:37
  time we're still get, we still have, we're still having that
• 31:40
  Weekly. Every route in my office has a
• 31:43
  weekly at least one weekly, full coverage, putting out, the, the
• 31:47
  grocery store ad, and what you were saying before James is,
• 31:51
  I've had people when I was ours, when I was an RCA and something
• 31:54
  on other routes, I had a couple of routes where people came up
• 31:57
  and complain that they didn't get them for some week.
• 32:00
  And absolutely told me that, that's how they plan their
• 32:02
  shopping that week. And it's like okay hey I have an
• 32:08
  extra one here that it wasn't delivering boxes vacant, you can
• 32:11
  have this one. There you go.
• 32:13
  And it's customers like with customers like that, that make
• 32:16
  you appreciate delivering that stuff.
• 32:19
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 32:21
  Oh yeah. Oh yes.
• 32:23
  I think every I at least in my office I think I think every
• 32:26
  route has what I call a catalog Queen.
• 32:29
  Oh yeah that just it just seems to get every every cat what are
• 32:37
  the routes in our office? I swear this lady and the day if
• 32:43
  there's a day that goes by that she does not get a catalog, I
• 32:47
  would it used to be on my Matrix if there was just no day that
• 32:52
  they didn't get. Some catalog of some stripe but
• 32:58
  normally normally it wouldn't it was not unusual to daily
• 33:04
  deliver. Her an inch of mail, mostly
• 33:07
  mostly Flats. They have I have a guy of my
• 33:11
  route, that's a donation King. He getting all those, all those
• 33:16
  Onika us letters and stuff and it's literally a handful.
• 33:21
  He actually has a 2-inch lot in my case, just because of how
• 33:25
  much mail volume he is. I have a couple of inches.
• 33:30
  Hey, John, you made it. Holy crap.
• 33:34
  All right, I have one and I was actually Josh and I talked for a
• 33:39
  while. On the route yesterday and I got
• 33:41
  to his box and I was like, all right now I'm at the box of just
• 33:45
  keep grabbing the handfuls of DPS until you come up to the end
• 33:48
  and finish the last few out that don't belong to him and then put
• 33:51
  them in the box and yeah it was Monday but that's almost nearly
• 33:55
  a daily thing for that that Resident.
• 34:01
  Is there just one whole day? They don't get one of the little
• 34:03
  hole cubby. They get it.
• 34:05
  They get their own tub. Yes, yes I know a few of those I
• 34:09
  think there's at least one or two on every route Iran in my
• 34:12
  office like might not hold the right now, he's only going to be
• 34:18
  on hold for through the weekend. He's already in a tub.
• 34:21
  I'll include a he's already gone bigger than one of my my whole
• 34:25
  gases. Oh yeah, I got I've got a
• 34:31
  section of my route that Kate. That's it catered.
• 34:36
  I don't know in the past. I think it catered to a 55 plus
• 34:39
  Community, but I just have people on there who, when I who
• 34:44
  regularly go on hold and even if it's for a few days is like,
• 34:47
  nope, that's going. It's going in a tub for two
• 34:50
  reasons. One, the volume of Mail, they'll
• 34:52
  get in those, you know, you know, three, four, five days.
• 34:57
  But to, they most of the people In there.
• 34:59
  Do customer pick. Do it as they'll pick up the
• 35:02
  accumulated mail. Yeah we got quite a few of those
• 35:04
  two and I and I and I appreciate those folks a lot and so yeah
• 35:10
  I'll throw the may. I just kind of throw the mail in
• 35:12
  the tub, but when it's getting close to when they're picking it
• 35:15
  up, I tidy it up. You know, I've kind of put the
• 35:20
  Flats on the bottom and some sort of order, kind of put the
• 35:23
  kind of tidy up the the letter mail.
• 35:25
  So it's in some kind of, so it looks kind of neat, you know.
• 35:29
  But we have to do that everybody every Wednesday in my office,
• 35:34
  all the holds that are still on, hold need to be gone through.
• 35:37
  Put an order in rubber-banded every Wednesday.
• 35:43
  Oh hmm, you get missed plenty of time for that.
• 35:49
  You know, I'm part of your into duty.
• 35:52
  Yes. That hurry, you're referring to
• 35:54
  be you. That is part of the other shitty
• 35:56
  gonna clean you. That's part of the which was
• 36:03
  actually kind of nice. So just having my Ox route
• 36:05
  because I was finally able to do my update.
• 36:09
  The couple things I needed update in my edit book today
• 36:12
  because this whole past week, I ran two routes and so it wasn't
• 36:18
  my end. Shift on my Ark.
• 36:20
  So I was just put person, but not off on doing that till it
• 36:24
  was my actual end of shift on my ox.
• 36:27
  And today was that rare day with, I was home by 11:30 this
• 36:32
  morning and that was, that was after dropping the Lov off at
• 36:39
  the at the repair shop, to inspect the tire that's got a
• 36:44
  slow leak. And yeah, I was still home in
• 36:48
  less than Operation so I'll take it.
• 36:53
  I I just I opted to not touch the marriage Palace pouring so
• 36:59
  get out her friends like nothing.
• 37:03
  I actually worked everything into my GPS and sort of casing
• 37:06
  it today like I bundled my CV use I was back in the office
• 37:12
  which included having to circle around to go back to my large
• 37:17
  company for the stand, the blue box because I got there. 10:00
• 37:24
  and I have to wait till 11 to your skin.
• 37:26
  It so I was back in the office by 115, put up an Irish mail
• 37:32
  with in my car by 3:30. And I regret it.
• 37:38
  I do take a couple smoke breaks. Why was p.m. casing but So I was
• 37:45
  way under today was going back to the what things are you
• 37:53
  remember from when you were going through the numbers of the
• 37:59
  route? Classification student scale.
• 38:01
  Who gained versus the cake off the case.
• 38:08
  Did anyone else take notice that the 16,000 whatever number of
• 38:13
  cases from losing happens to equal the same amount of games
• 38:19
  and both JH and A's? Yeah.
• 38:27
  You know, so see we're looking at a little coincidental to me
• 38:33
  that the numbers work out perfectly.
• 38:38
  Well, I look at it this way, there are some K routes out
• 38:42
  there that are small enough to be in off Route.
• 38:47
  There are some that are small enough to be an HR out.
• 38:50
  There are some that are small enough to be a j route, and I
• 38:54
  don't think they've usually put in the number of people who
• 38:57
  signed the high option in that either.
• 39:01
  I could take their K route down to a j or there.
• 39:04
  Now, J route down to 1/8, throughout So that's the other
• 39:09
  numbers that we also don't have, is that section, but you're the
• 39:14
  fact that also have playing about says, it went up the
• 39:21
  number of hbhb ox routes that we've gained here are now going
• 39:27
  to be carriers that are going to have no assigned route where we
• 39:32
  going to put them. Because it says that it's only
• 39:38
  1:30. But given where that demographic
• 39:44
  is. I mean, like, like I mentioned
• 39:47
  Sunday that, you know, we do have areas in some, in some,
• 39:53
  some regions that are posting full-time routes for anybody to
• 39:58
  apply off the street for And I think we kind of, we kind of
• 40:03
  touched on that especially with where we're sitting at, you
• 40:07
  know, if we end up with more people, that decide that, you
• 40:10
  know what I'm done, I can retire.
• 40:13
  Now, anyways, I'm done whole now or you know what, I am just done
• 40:18
  and they walk off the job, you know?
• 40:21
  And then you got these rights that bounce back and forth
• 40:24
  between and then you don't have RCA's to fill it because they
• 40:28
  don't have a year read or you don't have ours Cas at all or
• 40:32
  they're not even out of probation.
• 40:33
  Once it bounces back from District, back to the office.
• 40:37
  And so now they're getting posted for anybody to apply off
• 40:40
  the street. I think we kind of touched on a
• 40:44
  little bit of why can't we have a, you know, I understand the
• 40:49
  mutual transfer and District ride, beds for regular routes
• 40:53
  for people to be able to move. And transfer in this case, why
• 40:57
  can't we put up a national type B?
• 41:03
  Well, I'm looking at this from my my office perspective on this
• 41:08
  growing all these Ox routes out of K.
• 41:11
  Routes is not a good thing but maybe maybe just maybe these are
• 41:17
  in offices that are already short-handed and maybe they can
• 41:22
  be absorbed into the H and J routes that are there and lower
• 41:27
  the number of routes that are out there.
• 41:30
  But at the same time, increase these Other routes to where
• 41:33
  they're actually back up to a k route.
• 41:36
  You know we don't know where or what Rhyme or Reason we have for
• 41:41
  all these losses and changes and things like that but we can
• 41:46
  surmise that there's going to be stuff that we as we as rural
• 41:51
  carriers and as a postal office, can do to possibly mitigate this
• 41:57
  whole scenario of death to the route.
• 42:01
  That we're getting right now with the losses that we've been
• 42:05
  seeing posted. There's going to be people that
• 42:09
  are going to retire from this. There's going to be people who
• 42:13
  are going to quit because of this.
• 42:15
  But with we ride this out and we find a way to turn this around
• 42:21
  to benefit the carriers. Then we can actually make a
• 42:27
  bigger impact overall. Well, I don't think there's a
• 42:31
  carrier out there. I don't think there's a carrier
• 42:34
  out there that wouldn't take the time, to better their route and
• 42:39
  help benefit the customers in their areas.
• 42:41
  Because almost, I think, almost everybody that I've talked to
• 42:44
  that works for the Post Office, does it for two reasons for the
• 42:47
  money and for the people on the route?
• 42:50
  Mhm. Oh yeah, we touched on
• 42:52
  indefinitely for the customers and the benefits, you know, the
• 42:55
  retirement, you know, and that was kind of brought up by, you
• 42:58
  know, When the carriers in my office that has my primary
• 43:04
  route. Not my Ox because I'm a five in
• 43:06
  one, but my primary even though I rarely run it anymore.
• 43:10
  He's like what if I drop? Because it's only a 43k right
• 43:14
  now and it's a 93 mile route he's one of those long 400 in
• 43:20
  Yeah, 470 boxes 93 miles. So it's a lot of driving.
• 43:27
  And you know, his biggest thing is, is what if I drop so much?
• 43:30
  I said, well, you can rebuild it off the ox route and he's like,
• 43:34
  well, I have white, you know, I can't do that right away.
• 43:36
  I have to wait to the auction rooms vacant.
• 43:38
  Not necessarily no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 43:42
  You hold down on it. They can, they can easily just
• 43:46
  shut that rock down and cut. It do whatever they want with us
• 43:49
  because there is not an assigned regular military even though I
• 43:57
  79. I am still an RCA.
• 44:00
  I said no I said they can rebuild off a tox route that
• 44:03
  just moves me back to be in a designated 78.
• 44:06
  Again I said but they cannot put that because that used to be all
• 44:10
  one route. I said that you can reabsorb the
• 44:12
  aux route to build it back up. Yep.
• 44:14
  That's only. You know it's only 100 more
• 44:17
  boxes and 17 miles. So it'll give you a few more
• 44:20
  hours but and that would just make me a 78.
• 44:25
  You don't have to wait until Oh, it's vacated and I said if she
• 44:28
  wants to put up that fight, I said I'll fight that one for you
• 44:31
  tooth and nail, you know, I'm only, I six more months and I'll
• 44:35
  be going regular. So you know, if I go back down
• 44:39
  to a designated 78 for a couple months or whatever, so be it,
• 44:44
  it's not like, I'm not running everything in the office as it
• 44:46
  is right now anyways, Yeah, I mean that's you know his only
• 44:52
  saving grace If he if he does drop a considerable amount is
• 44:58
  being able to reabsorb that Ox row. and I think, like I said,
• 45:03
  we were saying before where you have these offices with these
• 45:06
  shortages and if you're going to have these drops, I think a lot
• 45:12
  of it may just kind of okay, you're short carriers, your Char
• 45:17
  RCA's especially, Routes are dropping.
• 45:22
  You got to rebuild them back up. Well, now you're going to kind
• 45:25
  of try and almost even the playing field just a little bit.
• 45:31
  Yeah, you can if you can take two or three routes that your
• 45:35
  vacant on, cut them up and put them on your 7 routes that you
• 45:39
  have in your office. That's three less regular.
• 45:48
  You got it out, James. And we're back.
• 45:58
  Oops, we had a glitch. Okay, James where we left.
• 46:01
  Our, they're saying you have three vacant house.
• 46:06
  So that three left carriers, three less regular carriers, and
• 46:12
  three less sub that they're forced to hire for the contract.
• 46:16
  So you're saving the post office money on that, you're saving the
• 46:19
  number of carriers that we need to hire as well.
• 46:22
  And on top of that, your benefit, The routes that have
• 46:25
  gone down by merging those routes into them.
• 46:29
  So you're saving money, but also building up the carrier's, pay
• 46:34
  on those other routes. And that's the biggest benefit
• 46:37
  we can get out of. This is finding the way to merge
• 46:40
  routes together to build them back up.
• 46:42
  Indicate routes, which is what we've been losing. and, With
• 46:50
  that, I would say, North Carolina just took was supposed
• 46:54
  to be a test or Pilot for the route optimization to be able to
• 47:02
  put the rails together with the turn-by-turn in the line of
• 47:05
  travel. To allow that, you know, to for
• 47:09
  them to place, you know, for situations like that.
• 47:13
  And that's why the program the program was called rural route
• 47:17
  optimization. That's one of the features, they
• 47:19
  were going to put into it. And then you have the line of
• 47:21
  travel manager, which allows you to optimize, the line of travel
• 47:25
  they do. So, you prevent pack tracking
• 47:27
  and things like that. It was just these two programs
• 47:31
  have more features in them than they actually released in this
• 47:34
  first update and they're slowly going to roll them.
• 47:36
  I'm out. Probably.
• 47:39
  Right. I know that the testing of that
• 47:44
  has been put to the wayside at least for now. and then higher
• 47:51
  headquarters this not rolled down to the Ops board, bro, up
• 47:58
  coordinators How they're actually going to do cuts and
• 48:04
  adjustments yet? Which is part of the reason why
• 48:09
  they won't do anything until after October.
• 48:14
  And and they know exactly everything that people are
• 48:17
  getting in the mail. These days.
• 48:18
  I mean we have the digital processing system for letters
• 48:22
  and then you also have the mailers that are telling the
• 48:25
  Postal Service. Exactly which address of the
• 48:28
  getting their flat and then you also have the barcodes that tell
• 48:31
  you exactly the addresses are like you can tell with load
• 48:34
  truck feature, although some people are having issues with it
• 48:37
  right now. It actually tells you the exact
• 48:40
  address that Barco goes to, you don't even have to have the
• 48:43
  address on the package anymore. Just the bar code and you can
• 48:46
  tell where it goes. Yeah, you can look at a dress up
• 48:50
  by scanning the barcode. There's that feature to not even
• 48:53
  on the little Rockets you can. There's actually a lookup
• 48:57
  address. Yep.
• 49:00
  And then with the barcodes on the letters.
• 49:02
  Yeah, yeah. Well the SPM scans.
• 49:06
  Yep, those actually that they are.
• 49:09
  That's what you used for your if you're doing a move left, no
• 49:13
  address on the scanner, you just scan the barcode on it and it
• 49:17
  puts everything from the letter. Yep.
• 49:19
  Right there into the move left. No address Peak feature.
• 49:25
  I have not used that one yet, maybe I should find out the
• 49:31
  time. Yep.
• 49:34
  Yeah, just take a decent listing of Pisa.
• 49:36
  Just take a piece of mail from the address from the from the
• 49:40
  address you're doing and just scan, the little bar code at the
• 49:43
  bottom and it populates everything and then you just say
• 49:47
  is this, you know, individual or family.
• 49:52
  Yeah. And with that, that rural route
• 49:54
  optimization, they can tell exactly how many minutes each
• 49:58
  mailbox will each address will put under a route.
• 50:01
  So they can take a small section of a neighborhood or Business.
• 50:06
  Park things like that and cut it to another route and know
• 50:10
  exactly how many minutes is going to add to the route.
• 50:15
  Something that the lot of people didn't know is that if in the
• 50:18
  are the rural route optimization system, the measurements that we
• 50:22
  have for each mailbox, will tell you exactly how much too kind,
• 50:24
  of course only management has access to that portion of it but
• 50:29
  it's there. Which kind of ties into what we
• 50:35
  also talked about Sunday, but will bring that back up this
• 50:41
  next Sunday when we cover resolutions.
• 50:44
  We kind of started that this past Sunday, but we insist
• 50:48
  instead of going a full two hours again denied where we're
• 50:51
  going to divide that up and next Sunday we'll get into the
• 50:53
  resolutions. And I know that was part of one
• 50:56
  of the resolutions James has, is when it comes to cutting routes
• 51:00
  and a carrier having more input. I'm how a route is cut and what
• 51:05
  sections because, yeah, you're going to management knows what
• 51:09
  they want to do and it doesn't make sense.
• 51:13
  Look at some point and hopefully with this with this and they
• 51:23
  don't even have to listen to it. And honestly, they don't even
• 51:27
  listen to local management when local management.
• 51:30
  Suggest the cut So the key here is hopefully, with this system,
• 51:37
  the rural route optimization and the line of travel manager that
• 51:42
  will take away a lot of that willy-nilly cut from over here
• 51:46
  and over there to make a make, this route better, or make this
• 51:50
  aux route and things like that, it will be more linear.
• 51:54
  And Better overall for everybody.
• 51:57
  That's what I'm hoping. But the big thing we're talking
• 52:00
  about today is our evaluations and what it means to us.
• 52:07
  And I think to us, there's too many variables to answer the
• 52:12
  question, straight forward and say this is what's going to
• 52:16
  happen. This is why or anything like
• 52:19
  that and it's going to be on a route by Route basis.
• 52:23
  And until we have until we have our full evaluation that we can
• 52:27
  look at the numbers and say yeah that sounds close to right.
• 52:32
  You know it doesn't have to be perfect.
• 52:37
  It just has to be closed. Well, in the car because we
• 52:52
  know you're probably going to be the one that got 8 plus h added
• 52:55
  on, just so they can Cut You Down.
• 53:02
  Maybe. Well, I have a very large
• 53:06
  company that will get anywhere from and it shows up is the
• 53:11
  Mughal Kumail, you know, the mlo tray, so it's not actually my
• 53:16
  GPS, it comes into the multi falls under the multi-point,
• 53:21
  which is why do that total slides into the case smell
• 53:25
  column, which is raw water. During the count, during just
• 53:33
  the two weeks of the mail survey.
• 53:38
  It was only about 1,500 pieces less than my GPS.
• 53:49
  So for the first, you know, in previous counts me and the
• 53:53
  supervisory, it was doing accounting mutually agreed.
• 53:57
  I get the tray from the clerk, I put it in my truck, I take it
• 54:02
  out and I give it to the mailroom and they sort it, give
• 54:06
  me, give me a partial credit. Before which is fine.
• 54:12
  You know I'm like okay I'm not touching it.
• 54:14
  I'm not doing anything with it except for anything at all.
• 54:18
  Well, now I'm actually getting a piece count on it and because
• 54:23
  they're closed on Saturdays, 34 trees.
• 54:28
  I may get Saturday. I could technically take on skin
• 54:33
  partial credits for each of those.
• 54:36
  On Monday. so, which I haven't been but I'm saying I could and
• 54:47
  like, I'm like anything. Sorry, I was running against I
• 55:14
  said. I wanted to make sure I didn't
• 55:18
  want to double dip. so basically, you know, it's not
• 55:38
  going to help anybody now because we can't come to any
• 55:43
  conclusions because we don't have the information.
• 55:47
  We don't have the damn right. It's not like previous mail
• 55:50
  counts where you counted everything in the office.
• 55:53
  You had your preliminary count in front of you before it was
• 55:56
  finalized, you had an idea right now, everybody's in the dark
• 56:01
  except for what we had of the many mail survey and that's long
• 56:06
  as you're off. If is inputted it, like they
• 56:07
  were supposed to that, you know, that's all we have.
• 56:11
  Is that little 6%, we have nothing else.
• 56:17
  Four percent. and if I remember, I were talking about that on
• 56:22
  Sunday, I said, realistically 90% of the routes were set up,
• 56:31
  you know, even before the survey started, because this 4 percent
• 56:35
  of male that they counted in the office, you're working out the
• 56:41
  raw working now is not going to be enough to change, you know,
• 56:46
  there's, you know, maybe 10% of the routes.
• 56:52
  It'll be enough for that one or two minutes to put them over to
• 56:56
  the next evaluated at work. And I, you know, I always also
• 57:02
  was saying Parsa see if you guys were talking about earlier
• 57:07
  Parcels thing out, think they are staying the Same Old Point
• 57:12
  up for the most part. Four people, parcel increase in
• 57:19
  Parcels, for the most part is not going to make enough of a
• 57:23
  difference. To offset the loss of flats and
• 57:28
  letters. It'll help unless you just pick,
• 57:32
  you picked up Amazon and you didn't have it before that where
• 57:37
  you're delivering an extra 50 or 100 parcels and day is going to
• 57:41
  be a benefit. But if you're only did like,
• 57:44
  delivering 10 or 12 more per day than the 2018 count, it's not
• 57:48
  going to make a difference. And if you're delivering a lot
• 57:50
  less than the 2018, how is going to make a huge difference, going
• 57:55
  to make a difference, right? Yeah, right.
• 57:59
  But you know the sluts have always no raw Flats.
• 58:06
  Whether it be working out of a dispatch tub, you're free.
• 58:10
  Now, the priests or bundles have always been if you as far back
• 58:14
  as I can remember. 10. Jewel minute.
• 58:21
  That's the one standard that has never changed.
• 58:25
  Over the years. That's realistically where the
• 58:32
  money's at right now. As you know bill was saying
• 58:36
  early start on Sunday and earlier his wax who dwindled
• 58:41
  down to Like nothing 1/10 1/10 of what he had before, right?
• 58:49
  You know, my fossil doubt he'll ever let you down?
• 58:54
  Well, I get a decent amount of plastic, put most of them go to
• 58:58
  that companies and again most of its Return to Sender stuff.
• 59:03
  And that's also a route by Route basis because I know some route
• 59:07
  were, you know, the mail volume for some routes is quite a bit
• 59:10
  more than mail route for than the mail for volume for other
• 59:14
  routes. I mean that's open it and just
• 59:16
  my office alone. So I'm routes or volumes heavier
• 59:20
  than others. Right.
• 59:23
  Yeah, I given you know, You know, we can't come to
• 59:27
  conclusions, we don't have the numbers.
• 59:30
  We don't know we And you know, and it's like that.
• 59:36
  Part is Where Do We Go From Here?
• 59:38
  Well it's again, it's a waiting game.
• 59:42
  Yep you got you just do what you can to optimize your route to
• 59:49
  your benefit as honestly as you can.
• 59:54
  And that's the other side of that this is finally account
• 59:59
  where 90% of what's on the route.
• 1:00:03
  Is honest, there is no hiding male there is there is no
• 1:00:10
  holding Flats back. There's no hiding mail in
• 1:00:13
  trailers at the plant or any of that stuff on this because it's
• 1:00:18
  a pre-internet behind you. Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  All right, I'm gonna call you all out on this, okay?
• 1:00:27
  Because 90% of the route around the valuations honest, because
• 1:00:33
  it's all automated. Are you talking about the
• 1:00:36
  automated system that post office issued your back?
• 1:00:39
  Pay on, are you talking about the you talk about the
• 1:00:42
  automation that, you know, was supposed to do too many mail
• 1:00:45
  survey and September and couldn't produce the results.
• 1:00:48
  And then when they do it in March and February March, it
• 1:00:51
  can't produce results. Are you talking about that
• 1:00:53
  automated? System the automated?
• 1:00:55
  Oh, I'm talking radar. Reports are given to you and you
• 1:00:58
  don't know if they're two three days, four days behind or two
• 1:01:02
  weeks behind when you actually receive those bundles systems.
• 1:01:06
  You're talking about the automated system that the United
• 1:01:09
  States Postal Service as the only eyes on and we can't gain
• 1:01:15
  access to it. That's a 90% you're saying
• 1:01:17
  there's honestly. No, I'm sorry.
• 1:01:20
  I like being paranoid because for four years of active, so
• 1:01:24
  Come Duty, it kept me alive and I'm telling you.
• 1:01:27
  There's bullshit in the wind when they can give you sixty six
• 1:01:31
  percent of the routes are going down, but can't provide the
• 1:01:34
  numbers to the union. bull shit and can't provide the numbers to
• 1:01:40
  the carriers to I mean, they can't provide the number to
• 1:01:44
  management. Yeah.
• 1:01:47
  Well, even management can access those numbers.
• 1:01:49
  What headquarters can't when headquarters supposedly has all
• 1:01:53
  this information yet? They can't share it, or won't
• 1:01:58
  share. What I'm talking about.
• 1:02:00
  If you wanted an Earnest count on this stuff, you're literally
• 1:02:06
  going to have to count every single piece of mail you have
• 1:02:10
  that comes through your route. You're gonna have to sit there
• 1:02:13
  and count every single one of them 365 days a year count.
• 1:02:18
  Every single one of them. Every day you work, count,
• 1:02:21
  everything you have your sub, count everything on your day
• 1:02:24
  off. That's the only way to get a
• 1:02:26
  100% honest evaluation the 90%. I'm talking about is not male.
• 1:02:35
  You don't have well, it kind of is, you don't have hidden mail
• 1:02:40
  at the plants anymore because it's not worth it for them to
• 1:02:43
  hide it anymore, because it's going to come through the
• 1:02:46
  system. One way or another, whether it's
• 1:02:48
  during the mini mail survey or outside of that, you don't have
• 1:02:53
  dishonest carriers, keeping vacant homes on the route
• 1:02:58
  anymore, well, because the system is Monitoring that as
• 1:03:06
  well. And actually pinging management,
• 1:03:09
  telling them that hey this route has this address hasn't gotten
• 1:03:12
  mail in the last 90 days. You have a system that's
• 1:03:17
  actually doing that which is funny because it will pull a
• 1:03:20
  vacant address as soon as as soon as it hits the 90th day.
• 1:03:23
  L told me this address haven't got mail in 90 days.
• 1:03:27
  But they can't tell us our numbers.
• 1:03:30
  You have management telling carriers that they can't punch
• 1:03:32
  in one minute before their start time.
• 1:03:37
  Yes, amazingly. They can tell you exactly down
• 1:03:40
  to the second the time you clocked in at.
• 1:03:43
  Yeah. But they can't tell us our
• 1:03:44
  number but yet they want to give us all of our little messages on
• 1:03:51
  the scanner and videos prior to clocking in Yes, I think that
• 1:03:58
  should actually be moved to after the after you punch clock
• 1:04:01
  in because now every, every union now has to use a scanner
• 1:04:08
  to clock in, whether you be a clerk, a city carrier or rural
• 1:04:12
  carrier you're clocking in on a scanner.
• 1:04:15
  So they should be able to reprogram it to put that stuff
• 1:04:17
  in right after you. Hit the clock in button, but now
• 1:04:21
  you got to do it for hand and the narrow.
• 1:04:27
  Automatically clocks. Which is should do for us to.
• 1:04:32
  But when I get into that Thursday because each Union has
• 1:04:36
  their own set of programmers and they don't talk to each other.
• 1:04:41
  What if, like the management doesn't talk to the union, but
• 1:04:44
  but to each other. Yeah, right.
• 1:04:49
  The only, the only thing they can do is they can go into these
• 1:04:53
  programs and actually physically change the numbers in the
• 1:04:57
  program itself. They have to literally login and
• 1:05:00
  Manually change these numbers because most of it is automated
• 1:05:05
  nobody touches it. Nobody looks at it, nobody
• 1:05:08
  verifies it, it's completely automated.
• 1:05:14
  But we need that access to see what's going on with those
• 1:05:17
  numbers and nobody's able to get in there because apparently
• 1:05:21
  these programmers were the cheapest.
• 1:05:24
  They could fly higher, which is typical for government and they
• 1:05:29
  probably didn't think far enough ahead to look at this and say,
• 1:05:33
  hey, look, we're going to have arguments over this.
• 1:05:35
  Let's do this. So we have to say here, we have
• 1:05:39
  to figure it out ourselves. And that's the hardest part of
• 1:05:43
  it all because you have to figure out for an entire year,
• 1:05:46
  all your numbers instead of just a two-week period and then trust
• 1:05:51
  that a computer is doing it the right way.
• 1:05:55
  And yet, if you have informed delivery, you seen letters
• 1:06:00
  coming into your informed delivery that are even for your
• 1:06:03
  address. I haven't had that yet.
• 1:06:09
  I've seen it on my informed delivery.
• 1:06:13
  But it wasn't in the DPS for that for my route to my house.
• 1:06:19
  You know, informed delivery is an accurate to the day, right?
• 1:06:24
  I know that but I'm saying that it's the letter that I saw in my
• 1:06:28
  form. Delivery never even made it into
• 1:06:30
  the DPS for the route that I was on that I live on. because I
• 1:06:34
  was, I was actually the summer record for my, my route to my
• 1:06:38
  house, for a while there before I became regular, But we have
• 1:06:43
  to, we're supposed to trust a computer system built by humans.
• 1:06:48
  Tell us how much money you were making.
• 1:06:50
  And there's your biggest, the biggest thing that people have a
• 1:06:55
  problem with and regulated by the United States Postal
• 1:06:58
  Service. An adult by the fire the
• 1:07:01
  cheapest contractors. Good government could find.
• 1:07:05
  Well what I was saying part, I part of the problem with the
• 1:07:09
  numbers not being there or available yet, is they didn't
• 1:07:13
  have the foresight to have them uploaded into the program.
• 1:07:18
  On a daily or weekly basis. Prior to the survey.
• 1:07:23
  So now they're trying to upload 52 weeks worth of data for was
• 1:07:29
  it 80,000 in 5000 rounds at the same time?
• 1:07:36
  yeah, eighty-one thousand and six hundred and something,
• 1:07:40
  depending on which chart you look at 620 or yeah, or 665
• 1:07:46
  something if if that data, because if you look back with
• 1:07:53
  the Old Mill counts, yeah, you can get a preliminary number it
• 1:07:57
  and at the end of the two weeks or three weeks or four weeks,
• 1:08:01
  But it was two to three papers for you.
• 1:08:04
  Got the official numbers that if they were and they actually
• 1:08:14
  start uploading this data. On a daily even weekly basis.
• 1:08:21
  Come September, they potentially will be able to have it with
• 1:08:25
  you, you know, that week. He could literally have already
• 1:08:30
  after. They could have literally have
• 1:08:32
  it the day after it is approved. Authorized at the office if they
• 1:08:37
  did it, right. You would literally know the day
• 1:08:41
  after the many meal surveys over in your in your survey numbers
• 1:08:45
  were put in the computer. You would literally be able to
• 1:08:47
  know what your routes be coming right after that, right?
• 1:08:53
  But they're not willing to do that.
• 1:08:57
  Right hope, hopefully for future account.
• 1:09:02
  So actually start doing that. So we will have to go through
• 1:09:08
  the same BS every time and you also have the.
• 1:09:14
  We also have to remember this is a this is a new system.
• 1:09:20
  The first time, an old computers Or the cheapest computers.
• 1:09:27
  They could buy through a government program.
• 1:09:30
  So they don't have a lot of memory.
• 1:09:32
  They don't have a lot of processing speed or anything of
• 1:09:36
  that nature. It's not like the gaming
• 1:09:38
  computers, you can go down to Best Buy and get this the
• 1:09:41
  cheapest professional computers. They could find to make this
• 1:09:46
  work. So you're going to have problems
• 1:09:50
  and then you have the programmers who are paid,
• 1:09:53
  probably paid a lot less than what they're really worth to
• 1:09:56
  make this program happen. And a system that has been
• 1:10:02
  worked on for 11 years. And where this was handed to us
• 1:10:08
  in arbitration. And when The engineers got
• 1:10:15
  together with the arbitration and they said this should be in
• 1:10:18
  place by 2015. And here we are in 2023 and it's
• 1:10:25
  still not in place and not to mention all the reorganization
• 1:10:31
  we've had at headquarters And all the original people not
• 1:10:36
  there and all these other branding that nobody knows what
• 1:10:40
  the hell they're doing because they all had their thumbs up
• 1:10:42
  their asses for the 10 years to begin with.
• 1:10:46
  And now it's an even bigger. Cut, everybody think everybody
• 1:10:52
  saying these numbers benefit the post office this and that we had
• 1:10:55
  a previous count. We had previous numbers if it
• 1:11:00
  would have actually benefited the post office.
• 1:11:02
  It would have been initialized immediately.
• 1:11:05
  Yeah, I've been saying that all along. and because you look at
• 1:11:12
  this and you look at these numbers, you look at the number
• 1:11:15
  of routes that we have in the number of carriers that we
• 1:11:20
  actually have registered in the union, both dues-paying and
• 1:11:24
  nandu Spain, there's less carriers in there are routes so,
• 1:11:32
  it would benefit the post office to find a way to lower the
• 1:11:35
  number of routes, but at the same time, raise the pay for
• 1:11:41
  other carriers. Somehow.
• 1:11:45
  So there's got to be some give-and-take somewhere in this
• 1:11:50
  and we've got to look at this in a positive light for ourselves.
• 1:11:53
  I know a lot of people are negative about it but there can
• 1:11:56
  be a positive outcome that comes from this.
• 1:12:00
  The one of those is knowing how much volume each route has It's
• 1:12:09
  cool. And I think a lot of that
• 1:12:10
  negativity comes out of the fear of the unknown because we don't
• 1:12:14
  know the data. And that's the fear of the
• 1:12:18
  unknown is where we're getting the negativity from.
• 1:12:21
  I, you know, I myself am trying to be optimistic.
• 1:12:24
  I've, you know, as being, you know, the only one really
• 1:12:29
  involved in anything Union and being the local Steward and you
• 1:12:33
  know, keeping up-to-date everybody in my office comes to
• 1:12:36
  me about every little thing about it and every day, I mean,
• 1:12:42
  I still get one. That asks me, I don't know where
• 1:12:45
  she got the idea. Idea of that, we're supposed to
• 1:12:47
  get 150 dollar. Pay ball or one-time thing.
• 1:12:54
  I don't know where she saw that. And then she was like, well I
• 1:12:58
  saw I went up this much on my yearly but it's only like a few
• 1:13:02
  bucks a check. I said that's your Cola.
• 1:13:04
  That's your cold and you know trying to explain that to her
• 1:13:09
  that was yeah don't get me started but I mean literally
• 1:13:13
  yeah you know I've got one other carrier who gets you know he's
• 1:13:17
  got the app and so when the thing came through Saturday And
• 1:13:23
  so Monday, he calls me. Yeah, I was he was already done
• 1:13:30
  with his route and I was still on my Ox route, still had to go
• 1:13:32
  finish the other whole route and he's like, did you hear?
• 1:13:36
  Yes, I already knew about it. I already knew about it.
• 1:13:41
  I yes, I know it just, you know, Every little thing.
• 1:13:49
  And so, you know, I walk into the office and that's the for
• 1:13:53
  hey, hey, hey. And then every other carrier
• 1:13:55
  stops to hear what's going on because they're clueless and
• 1:13:58
  have no clue. What's going on and then three
• 1:14:00
  more people are asking questions and I'm going, I don't know.
• 1:14:04
  I can't answer that for you. I don't have the data.
• 1:14:10
  That's one of the things we want to do here, with, with this.
• 1:14:13
  You know, why I came on with you guys is because you guys are
• 1:14:17
  here Trying to help give information to the massive about
• 1:14:23
  what's going on here and the confusion that's going on.
• 1:14:28
  We need to have people sit together and go over the like
• 1:14:32
  this and say, hey it may look bad right now, but there is a
• 1:14:37
  silver lining to everything that's going on.
• 1:14:42
  And there is a reason why we are rural carriers.
• 1:14:49
  And that's because we love what we do.
• 1:14:53
  We love our people that we deliver to And we love the job
• 1:14:59
  that we do and we may not get along with, we may not get along
• 1:15:04
  with management, we may not like what management is doing.
• 1:15:09
  But we like the job that we do, and once we get out of that
• 1:15:13
  office for on our own, we enjoy being out there.
• 1:15:17
  It's like what I said at National Convention during
• 1:15:20
  caucuses at each, everyone we're family where we are all family
• 1:15:25
  does family argue and fight and not get along at times.
• 1:15:29
  Yes. But do we still have our
• 1:15:30
  families back? Absolutely.
• 1:15:34
  We are all brothers and sisters in this.
• 1:15:36
  And we all have to watch each other's backs.
• 1:15:41
  Anybody, anybody that's listening to this anybody you
• 1:15:45
  have questions, you have concerns comment, get ahold of
• 1:15:51
  us. Go through our social media
• 1:15:53
  Pages. Yes, and on that segue, I'm
• 1:15:58
  going to add that in normally. Yep, we have been on Amazon
• 1:16:02
  podcast, Apple podcast Spotify. We have our Discord Channel.
• 1:16:09
  We have Facebook page. We have Facebook group, we have
• 1:16:12
  our email at United, We scan podcast at gmail, I just started
• 1:16:19
  an Instagram page. We are uploading stuff onto
• 1:16:22
  YouTube now to and we've also added Stitcher as well as
• 1:16:28
  iHeartRadio of. So literally every podcast
• 1:16:36
  Platform out there just about and if there's a couple smaller
• 1:16:39
  ones that I didn't get on quite yet, we are out there.
• 1:16:43
  You can message us anywhere if you know, who we are your
• 1:16:47
  friends with Facebook. So most of us are in most of the
• 1:16:51
  social media groups and one capacity or another, you know,
• 1:16:54
  private messages. If we don't have an answer with,
• 1:16:58
  you know, if you have a question, if you want something
• 1:17:01
  brought up but you want to do it anonymously and but you want us
• 1:17:05
  to talk. Talk about it.
• 1:17:06
  We won't give out who you are or where you're from, you know.
• 1:17:10
  We can talk amongst it about our, you know, with each other.
• 1:17:13
  Hey, we got a question about this.
• 1:17:17
  You know what your input, which your input.
• 1:17:19
  If you don't have a local Steward, your newer.
• 1:17:22
  You don't know who your area or ADR ddr's are a word quite find
• 1:17:27
  that information because maybe you're not getting a magazine
• 1:17:32
  yet. Or for some reason, you know,
• 1:17:35
  maybe The significant other, or the kids, or the dog tears, it
• 1:17:38
  apart, eats it before you get a chance to look at it.
• 1:17:41
  And you want to know who you can contact, you know, contact any
• 1:17:44
  one of us. You know, we're, we're spread
• 1:17:47
  out. I mean, James and iron Michigan
• 1:17:50
  bills and Pennsylvania Mike's in Kansas Josh's, in North
• 1:17:55
  Carolina, South Carolina, North Carolina, North Carolina, isn't
• 1:17:59
  the Carolinas, you know, Ben who periodically comes in here with
• 1:18:04
  questions, you know, he's out there.
• 1:18:05
  To and you even if you know who he is and he may not have an
• 1:18:09
  answer hidden come to us, you know, we can talk a mans
• 1:18:12
  ourselves and be like oh yeah and if one of us doesn't know
• 1:18:15
  somebody might or we can at least point you in that right
• 1:18:19
  direction on who to contact. So we're there to help you know.
• 1:18:26
  It doesn't matter where you are in this country.
• 1:18:29
  We all do the same job. Yeah we all have the same
• 1:18:33
  contract Yep, that is true. Yeah, we all have similar
• 1:18:41
  experiences, it's, you know, we're there to help you.
• 1:18:46
  And that's, that's this is our platform to be able to reach out
• 1:18:49
  to everybody because I know especially with the leave
• 1:18:54
  replacement shortage, not everybody can get off to go to
• 1:18:57
  boosters or Regional conferences or conventions and whatnot.
• 1:19:04
  And those of us that can go are lucky to be able to go And so,
• 1:19:09
  you know that's that's another way to try and get I know mid
• 1:19:14
  states are coming up, James myself and of course Mike will
• 1:19:19
  be at mid states. You know, will will report what
• 1:19:23
  we hear? You know, where I, I'm not going
• 1:19:26
  to put You know, I'm not scanning documents in and
• 1:19:32
  posting those. No, but I will report.
• 1:19:34
  Yep. We heard this.
• 1:19:36
  You know? That's coming.
• 1:19:37
  Second hands. We're we're not doing that.
• 1:19:40
  If there's certain information that somebody wants sharing, it
• 1:19:44
  privately as one thing but sharing it publicly is another
• 1:19:49
  What will get the information out?
• 1:19:51
  That's important. The carriers to know, because we
• 1:19:55
  don't discriminate, whether you are dues-paying or non
• 1:19:58
  dues-paying, you are our brother and sister We care and we're
• 1:20:04
  here for you guys and if that means showing them that yes
• 1:20:07
  there are people in the union that are active in the union
• 1:20:09
  that do care about you. Maybe that can change somebody's
• 1:20:14
  mind to join or rejoin instead of getting out knowing.
• 1:20:18
  Okay, there are people out there that are working for us. you
• 1:20:26
  know, here's one important thing about this whole situation that
• 1:20:29
  we do, we do this for free. Absolutely, don't get
• 1:20:34
  compensated for it. We're doing this for your
• 1:20:37
  benefit. So, you know, if we can invest
• 1:20:40
  this time in, you try investing a little time in yourself.
• 1:20:46
  Absolutely. Hello brother and sister in here
• 1:20:51
  in the rural carrier craft. Show them this podcast.
• 1:20:59
  Spread the word, let them know that they're not alone as a
• 1:21:04
  rural carrier. There are people out there that
• 1:21:07
  are willing to help and willing to reach out willing to give
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  answers beyond that of what you just hear Through the Grapevine.
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  And getting one side or another, you know, at least pointing you
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  in the right direction on where to go to get those answers or
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  point you in that direction, to get that person, I will be able
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  to help you. And if that person isn't helping
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  you the way they should or you should go above them or who to
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  direct to, that we know, will be able to help you and will help
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  you. I should say.
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  That's, that's what we are here for.
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  We, you know, we're not putting it, we're not going to put
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  anybody down, we're all about. Lift enough.
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  We're all in this together. We're all in the same fight
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  together. And on that note, I think we're
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  going to wind it down since Josh is back.
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  So I'll let him go ahead with his final, commentary for the
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  evening. Like we've said in the past,
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  make sure you're doing what available scans are for you.
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  As James said, honestly, you don't want to pledge your
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  numbers. You don't want to try and
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  attack, you know, pad your route put if you honestly have one of
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  those scans take credit for it. If you're not familiar with
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  them. Like it was in the past weren't,
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  you know, freakish the cheat sheet learn you know, get
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  proficient in two or three of them and then add another couple
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  and that another couple until you're proficient with all of
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  them will all tell you that we probably.
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  There's at least one or two the we all forget about and when
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  we're talking like all I could have been doing that like I
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  said, earlier, I keep forgetting Nothing about the eight pieces,
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  for hold them. Posing a postage.
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  Dues are big one for me, you know?
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  If you if you're getting overwhelm, take a step back,
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  take a breath. Step back in try and have a good
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  week. Mike.
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  Go ahead with your finals for tonight.
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  I think we've I just want to go back to something.
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  We were we said earlier on all of this is speculation right now
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  until we have the hard numbers and, which is supposed to come
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  later this week. So, you know, II know, it's our
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  pay. And I I've always said no one
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  should be more concerned about your pay then you are but until
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  Saturday, it's all just speculation.
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  So let's stop. I won't say stop worrying but
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  you know, there's not anything we can do about it at this
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  point. Do the job, do the job, right?
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  And and just know that you're doing the job right?
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  I'm sorry I'm not very focused tonight it's okay but have a
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  good week everyone and just and just and just carry on James,
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  we're happy to have you with us. I hope you continue to stay with
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  us because I will have an additional voice and, which is
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  your final input for this evening.
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  I appreciate you guys inviting me into this and letting me
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  spill my guts about the thoughts.
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  I have on this stuff. But the biggest thing I can say
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  on this is, we're all in this together.
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  We're all one. Ask Are All One union, dues
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  paying or nandu Spain, you are our brother and sister in this.
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  And yes, we're all worried about what our numbers are going to
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  come back as but we have three things going for us on this.
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  One of them is we're resilient. We've gone through plenty male
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  counts where things have gone wrong.
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  We've had plenty of grievances filed over this current system
• 1:25:22
  already and the proof is in the pudding that our Union Ian
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  management as much as people hate on them, they're doing what
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  they can with what they have available to them within the
• 1:25:35
  confines of the National Labor Relations Board.
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  And the available contractual arguments they can make on it.
• 1:25:44
  It's very hard to sit back and say they've got this.
• 1:25:50
  But I'm saying they have a handle on this even though it
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  may not look like it. That's the step 4 and the labor
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  cars are putting on. This is very, very important.
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  And we need to understand that these numbers, although
• 1:26:08
  Management's probably going to say their final are not final
• 1:26:12
  yet. Until we get through all of
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  this, these numbers are not final.
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  We have to stay calm relaxed and get through this together.
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  And Bill. What do you got for us tonight?
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  Oh, thank you, lations elaboration conjecture paranoia.
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  Oh, that's my normal day. Yeah, I listen to, you know, the
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  the comments that are here and you know what, the things on the
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  Facebook carrier pages, I listened to the people at work
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  and the thing that strikes me about this whole situation is
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  that a We still can't trust the Post Office now.
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  Well I doubt you can't trust somebody who won't give you the
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  numbers but yet they're going to tell you 66% of the routes are
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  going down. But will yo I'm sorry folks,
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  There's Something Fishy, I think that you know, if most people
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  are doing the jobs that they're supposed to do, they're doing
• 1:27:30
  the scams, they're doing the Dismount and they're doing
• 1:27:34
  everything they're supposed to. That you're going to have a
• 1:27:40
  maybe I would say a to two, maybe three our effect on your
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  route. There are some routes that are
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  going to go up because of growth, you know, but in
• 1:27:52
  general, I think most routes are going to go down to 23 hours and
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  especially in my office because we are artificially inflated
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  when the FSS was removed from our office.
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  And it's almost like a right correction type.
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  Ation because of the fact that we should have never went up the
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  the hours we did when we got the fs removed from our office.
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  But in reality folks, you know, after you get out on the street,
• 1:28:20
  it's the best job in the world. You know, it's up for when
• 1:28:23
  you're in, Michigan in snow and wet and freezing, but we're
• 1:28:28
  super happy without you because of the customers.
• 1:28:32
  Because of the kids, the dogs, I mean, It was one of the easiest
• 1:28:38
  job I ever had in my life until management.
• 1:28:42
  Tried to start managing, And it's still the best feeling in
• 1:28:46
  the world. When I get out there and I start
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  delivering and I see my people and, you know, I watch my
• 1:28:53
  neighborhood. So, you know, I'm like a
• 1:28:55
  community cop for my eyebrow. And you know, when I lose the
• 1:29:01
  customer, it affect me. I've lost several close
• 1:29:04
  customers when I see babies born or, you know, a new dog in the
• 1:29:08
  yard or something, you know, it's still the greatest feeling
• 1:29:13
  in the world to have a job like this. so, With that said, don't
• 1:29:20
  let all of this you know just chew you up, okay?
• 1:29:25
  Let's ride the ride, see where it ends and hopefully, somewhere
• 1:29:33
  somehow somebody on the national board.
• 1:29:37
  Will grow enough balls to stand up and say enough is enough to
• 1:29:40
  step forwards, that the first time, the very first time I've
• 1:29:44
  seen the national board react in a timely fashion to such an
• 1:29:48
  obscene situation as the post office has put forth.
• 1:29:54
  But it's not enough. So you know with your state
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  conventions coming up your little siesta, Fiesta local
• 1:30:04
  meetings and everything, get your resolutions out there.
• 1:30:10
  Vote for the people, you want to go to the National Convention
• 1:30:13
  and represent, you not just your National your state.
• 1:30:16
  The board people not your adrs or your area stewards or anybody
• 1:30:22
  else vote. For the people who are going to
• 1:30:24
  go and speak for you. Because every convention we go
• 1:30:29
  to is just like the politics in Washington, it's corrupt.
• 1:30:34
  And these people vote themselves into office by giving people
• 1:30:38
  committee positions. And paid vacations to go to
• 1:30:41
  national conventions, every year.
• 1:30:45
  If I had a choice. In this National Convention, I
• 1:30:51
  would eliminate 90% of the retirees.
• 1:30:55
  Because they have no idea and no longer represent what the rural
• 1:30:59
  carriers are going through. We need active, carriages, stand
• 1:31:03
  up. We need younger carriers to
• 1:31:05
  stand up and to get involved and participate in the Union.
• 1:31:11
  So protect yourself, protect your wallet, protect your
• 1:31:15
  future, and your family's future.
• 1:31:17
  What? You put the scanners going to go
• 1:31:19
  into your wallet. Other than that, folks do out
• 1:31:23
  there be safe. Be careful, watch out for each
• 1:31:26
  other help each other educate each other, correct each other.
• 1:31:31
  I mean, yeah, there's no problems telling carriers when
• 1:31:33
  they're doing something wrong. But most importantly, at the end
• 1:31:36
  of the day, get home because you're the most important
• 1:31:39
  delivery. Another that know with my
• 1:31:47
  finals? Yes, we are all one.
• 1:31:50
  I don't care if your table 1 table, 2, and RCA a PT F, or
• 1:31:56
  even an arc, you know, we're here for you.
• 1:31:59
  We're all in this together and, you know, We're reaching out to
• 1:32:06
  you questions, comments something.
• 1:32:10
  You're not sure of you know, you can reach out to us, they said
• 1:32:14
  multiple platforms and on that note next week we will probably
• 1:32:19
  talk about if we see what our new evaluations will be probably
• 1:32:24
  start off with that. But next week we'll definitely
• 1:32:27
  be diving deep into resolutions. We've got a lot of good ideas
• 1:32:30
  that are coming through with just the few of us on here if
• 1:32:34
  you have resolution. Is that you want to send to us
• 1:32:37
  to get them out there? Please feel free to it.
• 1:32:41
  I know I'm going to reach out to a few and see if I can get some
• 1:32:44
  more additional ideas and on that.
• 1:32:47
  Now everybody take care have a safe week and we'll see you back
• 1:32:51
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