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Monday Night Football Recap, 0-2 teams in trouble, Vinnie Iyer talks NFL & Eliot Clough on the Hawkeyes · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon.
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  On a Tuesday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network flag shipped out
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  of Des Moines sports station One O 6.3 KX&O.
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  Miller and Condon with you for the next couple of hours.
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  Thank you for starting your afternoon with us.
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  And then AT2O clock, we'll turn things over to off the bench
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  with Sean Roberts and Lucas Strain.
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  They will take you until 5:00. Were you a Doors guy?
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  A couple of their tunes. OK, not not not the on the
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  entire body of work. But some of them, yeah, I, I
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  wonder because here you talk about the Stones all the time.
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  There's a lot of different bands that pop up.
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  And when I play a Door song, which I had middle school, there
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  was a range that the Doors coming on the heels of the movie
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  that came out there in the early 90s, I was definitely into the
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  Doors. I don't see you tapping your toe
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  nearly as much when I play some Doors.
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  Yeah, it's not. It's not a toe tapping.
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  Kind of. Thing Jim Doors a different kind
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  of guy. No, he was.
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  Where did he die? Paris.
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  I think he correct good stuff. Well, we do have a death in the
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  entertainment industry that we'll probably touch on at some
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  point in the opening segment. Is Rob.
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  Well, let's do it now. What the Robert Redford passed
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  away. What a life, what a what a body
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  of work that he left behind. Obviously the natural Roy Hobbs
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  was a terrific sports movie. My my Butch Cassidy, the
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  Sundance Kid for, you know, my demographic was massive,
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  massive. I've one of the worst times of
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  my life. In 1973, taken Cheryl Brusgaard
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  on the bus to the Odeon Theatre to watch the movie with Barbra
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  Streisand was just torture the way we were, the way we.
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  Were. I don't think I got a second
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  date with Cheryl, but anyways. Yeah, but what, what?
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  Those were some of the ones that I remember.
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  All the president's men, Right. Oh, absolutely.
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  Yep. That's a good one.
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  It's the natural for me. Yeah, me too.
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  Yeah. I mean, that's Butch Cassidy.
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  Then the natural is it Paul Newman and and Robert Redford.
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  So good. It was probably the time to.
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  I mean, that movie came out in the mid 80s, so right in my
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  wheelhouse. It was on cable all the time
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  growing up. Oh yeah.
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  See that thing on TNT or something somehow.
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  Sunny afternoon. And All right, we'll watch this
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  and watch him hit the home run and blast the lights out.
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  And but I also remember just how weird it was wrapping my mind
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  around what what is this? What what's going on?
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  Like, you know, this isn't a real team.
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  What what is this movie trans? It was much different than kind
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  of what my mind as a a youngster was able to wrap my mind around
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  and. Mel Allen's not going to be
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  talking about it on This Week in Baseball.
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  Right. And then I also remember still
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  you'd hear in the 80s and the 90s what a handsome man.
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  He wasn't. He's an old guy.
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  How? He looked the same for like his
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  entire life. He just looked like an.
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  Old guy to me though as a young kid and I didn't get it.
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  Well why? Why do you think this old guy is
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  good looking as he he can understand?
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  It yeah, he looked saved his entire life.
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  He really did. But but what a, what a, what a
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  career and obviously some really good pictures that he left
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  behind the way we were not being one of them, which I think won a
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  lot of awards, but. Not in the Miller house.
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  No, no. Anyways, so Monday Night
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  Football is come and gone. Yeah, you got another one?
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  Yeah, how about the four? It was 16 and four between.
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  No, I was three and two. I got beat by the hook in the
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  Ole Miss game, Ole Miss Arkansas.
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  It was 6 and I was laying 6 1/2 but still pretty Dang good.
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  Yeah, that's good. I, I was, I was pretty pumped up
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  that we didn't lose any ground when both of the boys in the
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  afternoon had their good week that we went toe to toe with and
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  well, regardless, good stuff. And look, I think that both
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  winners from last night are major, major contenders in their
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  respective confidence conferences.
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  I, I look when it comes to the NFC to see if you'll follow
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  along or discreet. OK, I think it's the Eagles and
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  the Packers, yes, and a little gap.
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  Tier Tier 1. Tier 1.
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  Tier 2, the Buccaneers are absolutely on it, no doubt.
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  AFCI think it's the Bills and the Ravens.
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  Tier 1. Tier 2, I think the charges are
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  on there. Trenton.
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  So there's things that happened during the suburb and it's
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  normally you betting on the chargers.
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  It happens every. Year and I give you a hard time
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  and we laugh about it and then it gets the end of the season.
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  Here we go again. Yeah, Adams, they're 7:00 and
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  9:00. I can't wait for them to post
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  future. So I get better, we get next
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  year. And watching them again last
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  night in a game that was weird, goofy, quirky, just all kinds of
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  weird stuff happening. Those are the kind of games,
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  certainly on Monday night, those prime time affairs where it
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  feels like the home team, they find a way, right?
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  And the Chargers had an answer every single time.
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  I walked away so impressed by that team.
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  I walked away even more impressed by Herbert.
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  He's healthy and I've just seen him a couple of times.
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  Tuck it and get that a. Because he couldn't run before.
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  Absolutely. And it's always been a component
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  of him when healthy. But that caveat you put in there
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  because there hasn't been a ton of help, they have the pieces.
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  I think they do. They absolutely have the pieces
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  and I was concerned, you know, with the offensive line injury
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  and shuffling guys around and you're moving over all right now
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  alts going over to the left side.
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  What's that mean for your right tackle position cuz?
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  Slater's out for the year, right?
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  Right, he's out for the year, yet they've been able to hit it
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  now. What do you replace one of the
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  best left tackles with? One of the best left tackles
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  That that definitely helps too. But you would you would think
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  that that would put a deficiency on the right side of the line.
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  But I think you're absolutely right.
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  And right before the season, those last, you know, 10 days
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  before the NFL season kicked off, I heard a lot of that buzz
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  about the Buccaneers, and I bought it myself.
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  Orps comes back if they can get. Through early When is he coming
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  back? He was.
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  It went up until close to game time yesterday before he was
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  officially announced. So he's got.
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  So maybe this coming weekend. It's gonna be yeah, he he's
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  getting close to returning. You add that to that offensive
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  line, the skill positions, Abuka, that dudes a stud, isn't
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  he is. I mean, we saw at Ohio State.
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  Could he be Rookie of the Year? Oh, I don't think that's that's
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  a stretch by any means. You get The Jets this week,
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  maybe you set him out another week, and then you get ready
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  after that. But still, the Buccaneers team,
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  yeah, they're live. The Chargers team, they are
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  live. I'm right there with you.
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  I walked away so impressed with both of those teams and Baker
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  Mayfield. He's so tough.
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  Gets up. He's so good and hollering.
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  Getting into D BS face you want to fight it was great.
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  I want that guy on my side. No, he's he look at and and Troy
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  pointed out don't not the most athletic quarterback in the
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  league, but he's just tough and he just is a football player.
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  You know, he's just one of those guys that you look at and that
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  is a football player. Lucas Strange just sent the
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  update. Here we are.
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  I know this doesn't affect many of you, but it's bragging rights
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  in the building. We're up a game.
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  We're up a game, that's it. Yeah, Is that right?
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  They got twelve wins, we got 14. We're up to.
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  We're up to. Up two.
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  All right, we'll take it. That's where we were going into
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  it. No, we're up 3 going into it.
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  So anyways, good stuff. They're a little head to head
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  competent because we're certainly talking the talk
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  trend. Oh, absolutely.
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  If they beat us, yeah. I mean, I don't, I am not
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  worried one iota. I'm starting to see it.
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  Are you? Yeah.
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  College has been good the last two weeks.
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  NFL has been pushing money around.
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  We're starting to see it a little bit better.
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  Feeling very good about the college slate.
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  Now, as always, it's about paring down and finding the
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  right games. Yeah, no, it absolutely is.
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  Well, two good Monday night games.
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  Last night I didn't see the end. What time did the what time did
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  the finale and was it after midnight?
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  Just before midnight. It was right in that range,
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  Yeah. I didn't even happen to look at
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  the clock at the time, but it was there.
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  I was hoping for maybe a backdoor cover out of the
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  Raiders, and Gino had other ideas about that.
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  My God. Yeah, I don't know if that's the
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  Chargers defense, who I think are pretty good.
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  We're just. Gino Smith is just.
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  That's what you get out of You don't want Gino throwing it
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  around 43 times. No, I agree with you and 11.
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  Carries for Ashton Gente in a game like that.
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  And especially after his first carry when he just blew that
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  safety up. I mean, he depleted him on his
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  way to a 10 yard gain. I think they gave him 9 1/2
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  regardless. Yeah, we'll see where it goes.
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  Obviously, Mason Crosby is a hell of a player on that Raiders
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  team. You just wonder if he's going to
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  be one of those guys that you know, he's going to spend a lot
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  of his career on a non playoff contender, kind of like what's
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  going on in Cleveland with another pretty good defensive
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  end in in Miles Garrett. We'll see where that goes.
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  So Monday, so Thursday night we get Buffalo hosting is Miami.
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  I think it's Miami. Is and I'm going to guess a
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  whole lot of people will be using that one for surviving.
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  No, I think so too. And I, and I do believe that
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  this is probably there'll be a coaching change at with Miami if
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  it goes bad, you know, with a couple of extra days, right,
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  we'll see where it goes. You get the mini bye week that's
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  kind of sprinkled in there as well if this thing goes
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  horribly. And certainly thinks it would.
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  4110 You know something like that then yeah, you RIP the
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  Band-Aid off and you just make that firing right away is.
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  There an O and two team not named the Chiefs because I guess
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  you got to you have to put them in the conversation.
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  Who are the O and two teams right now that I'll just ask you
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  here are the own two teams and I I think, well, this will be very
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  quickly. The first three no Jets,
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  Dolphins, Browns, no OK Titans or Texans.
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  Texans still because of that defense, but that offensive.
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  Line taking a step back or is it the offensive?
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  Line, I think it's the offensive line.
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  He has no time. He has no running game.
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  There is absolutely no ability for anything other than him to
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  sit there in the pocket, get hit and hopefully deliver some
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  passes. I I think that is, but their
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  defense is good. Yep.
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  No, it's really good. And if they could wrap up
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  instead of letting the guy get to the 15 yard line, maybe we'd
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  be having a different conversation and they wouldn't
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  be on that O and two list. Did you think Jalen Knoll was
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  going to house it? I did.
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  I did too. Yeah, I did too.
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  I thought he was gone. All right.
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  I like the Titans team though and they're O and two they
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  haven't covered either week yet. I put them both weeks I.
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  Feel good about them I. They're pointing in the right
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  direction. They're they're trending
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  positive and I think Cam board is just going to continue to.
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  Agree. Yep, I agree.
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  The Chiefs are certainly still in the hunt.
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  The Giants. No, I.
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  Know what you're going to say here, Your bears.
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  Oh God no. The Saints.
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  No, but they're plucky. They are.
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  Yeah, they are. And I think we're going to go
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  against them this week in Survivor.
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  One thing they play Seattle. They play Seattle at Seattle.
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  One thing with the Saints is Spencer Rattler, and again, this
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  is just watching him, seeing him on red zone pop up from time to
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  time. I'm not watching full games or
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  anything like that, but he's out there competing his ass off.
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  Yeah, he's he's in it. I don't know if it's going to
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  turn into he becomes a a perennial starter, but I think
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  he's found a place in this league and coming out there are
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  a lot of people that have questions about, I mean, he was
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  an Uber recruit. He was where?
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  Where did he go in the draft, do you remember?
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  Was he like 1/5? Round sounds familiar.
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  Yeah, something like that. But there were questions about
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  him. And I think at minimum he has
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  found a spot that this is going to be a guy hanging around,
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  probably a backup is next stop after the Saints get their
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  quarterback, whatever that turns out to be.
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  I I like what we've seen out of him, just hanging around making
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  some plays. Yeah, we'll see.
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  I mean, Tyler Shuck is behind him, so there's not a lot there.
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  And they wasted. I I, I think at this point you
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  have to say they wasted. He was a second round pick and
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  he can't beat out Spencer Rattler.
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  So you just wonder how that's going to work out.
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  But the Saints seemingly, I agree with you.
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  He thought it would be kind of a a free square whenever the
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  Saints played, but they've they've been, what did you say,
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  plucky, plucky. They have, they have been
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  played. Carolina was plucky in the
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  fourth quarter. That one about gave me.
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  I didn't. Come.
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  I didn't see the comeback. Was it?
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  Was there a time in that game that you thought, Oh my God, the
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  Cardinals are going to blow this?
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  Yes, there. Really.
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  Was they got a downside kick? You don't get downside kicks to
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  the NFL anymore. They had an onside.
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  Kick and they're down. How many 5?
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  Down 5. I think how much time left?
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  Minute. Why there's time.
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  So was that the late window he was?
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  That must have been on the Denver game.
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  Yep. And they just kept penalty after
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  penalty. And there was against them,
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  yeah, against Arizona, they're just hanging around.
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  They they had them stopped, I think third and 15 now personal
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  foul, roughing the passer and give another one.
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  It just, it felt like I've seen this before in survivor and this
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  is the way that it's going to come to an end.
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  However, Carolina, we know the defense is bad on top of it,
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  both their starting center and right guard.
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  Yeah, on the IR. Boy, yeah.
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  Good luck back there. Yeah, no kidding.
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  Let's get Thunder Joe in here. I want to.
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  I want to talk about. Because that's the only O and
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  Two's. You're right.
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  And and I think we could probably identify three teams.
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  I want to get to Brandon Aubrey in just a second because what a
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  what an incredible weapon. Hello, Thunder Joe, How are you?
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  Hey, pretty good. Yeah.
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  Who knew the Australians? Could kick like that, I guess,
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  Terry. Taylor's Australian.
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  Yeah, man, I got to rib you, brother.
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  What is confused one is it is confused one of the biggest bad.
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  You know what's in the history of the NFL?
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  Who with his wish wish version? Kicker Mason Crosby.
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  I think you mean Max Crosby. Oh God, yes.
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  He said Mason. I did.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mason Crosby.
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  Yep. Yeah.
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  I'm like, I'm like, whoa, I don't know what.
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  Yikes. I think, I think, hey, I'm 66
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  years old, Joe, you got to cut these old boys a little slam.
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  No, no, no, no. That was your Broncos goggles.
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  But I know that. Hey, real quick, Rob read for
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  movies yeah. Richard Richard Attenborough
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  assembled The Avengers for A Bridge too far.
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  I don't got time to go through the cast, but look it up on
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  break a bridge too far. I What's it about?
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  The Operation Market Garden, The John Frost Bridge and Arnhem
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  Holland. I think I might have seen it I.
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  Know I haven't seen that. One, I think I have.
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  When did it come out, Joe? I think it was 1979 or 1980, but
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  it had like top period of time, huh?
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  Hopkins, Kane, Hackman, Ryan, Oh my God, Laurence Olivier, Dan
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  Holm, Elliot, Elliot Gould and Robert Redford.
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  Look at look up the cast and they all had major parts.
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  They weren't cameos. 1977 a war film.
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  Graduating in high school. I might.
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  Joe, thanks for the call. Thanks for the correction,
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  brother. You're welcome anytime, you know
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  that. Good to talk Thunder, Joe.
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  Yeah, this this cast a war movie.
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  Yeah, I need to put this one. I.
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  Think I've seen it. Epic War Directed by Richard
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  Attenborough as a Thunder Joe mentioned there.
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  Sean Connery, Michael Caine. Wow.
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  James Caan. Jeez.
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  Elliot Gould, Gene Hackman, Anthony Hopkins.
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  Good God I. Think all these guys are dead?
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  Maybe Anthony Hopkins, the first one still living.
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  Ryan O'Neal There's Robert Redford.
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  Wow, that is a cast. Wow, I'll say.
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  Thank you for that recommendation.
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  I am going. To no, you should and I and I'm
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  going to as well. I I might have seen it, but I.
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  But maybe tonight. No, it's baseball.
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  After baseball gets over, I'm talking about the kids.
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  Your. Twins are hosting the Yankees.
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  Good God, And they won. They.
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  Did they? Did it Helped up my Jay by the
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  way? Thank God I did baseball because
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  I would have taken another free square.
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  Oh yeah, take the free square. That wouldn't have happened.
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  Taken by over 2 Monday Night Football and made it even worse.
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  So I want to talk about Brandon Aubrey.
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  Yes, the kicker for the Cowboys. I think we are.
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  What are you watching late? What are you watching the end of
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  that game? I.
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  Was not I was watching the Broncos.
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  Oh, you. Flipped over it 'cause it was a
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  305 kick. Yeah.
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  OK, you missed out. That was incredibly
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  entertaining. I just kept looking at the box
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  and looking at the score thing and all those Cowboys survivors
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  are dead. Same thing.
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  And then that's why I was even more intrigued, I think, by the
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  game. So.
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  The Cowboys scored to take the lead inside the final minute.
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  Yes, and then somehow Russell Wilson drank from the fountain
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  of youth at one point and found neighbors by himself in the end
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  zone, leaving what, like 30 seconds or something?
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  I think it was 38 when I saw it on the on the, on the crawl, not
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  the crawl. It's up in the left corner now.
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  Whatever you call it, the this, what it's coming kind of box,
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  the box, whatever. They scored 33 seconds extra
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  points, good 25 seconds left the thing and they were mentioned on
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  the broadcast. Is our plane so soft?
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  The Giants defense there, knowing that they have Aubrey,
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  they get to midfield. He's going to kick.
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  He's going to kick. Trent, he's going to kick a 70
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  year old field goal this. Year no doubt he is on top of
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  the new football rules back like it used to be where the the the
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  kickers can doctor the ball and make it a little bit more like a
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  basketball as opposed to a football and not even scuff it
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  up and do all those things. You're absolutely right.
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  The weapon that he is, what does he get paid?
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  The open market. Oh my God, I have.
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  What's he worth in trade? I have.
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  Absolutely no clue what the top kicker makes. 5 million.
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  Who is the top kicker? Right?
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  Highest it had to have been. At some point, Justin Turner, I
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  would think, right? Kicker contract Harrison Bucker
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  Average annual salary of 6.4. That's more than I would have
• 17:04
  thought, Aubrey. 10. Should be if it's not right?
• 17:09
  Harrison Bucker, COO, Elliott Dicker, some of the guys that
• 17:14
  are on that list right now, 6,000,000 for Elliott, just for
• 17:17
  a reference point there with Bucker leading the way.
• 17:20
  And then you you go through and you look towards the bottom and,
• 17:23
  and that's where you get into the Eddie Pineros of the world,
• 17:26
  still making over $1,000,000. So I Chris Chris Andrews, our
• 17:30
  friend from the South Point, he tweeted this out in in August
• 17:34
  and I meant to bring it up at some point back then and I had
• 17:37
  to go into my bookmarks to find it and I scrolled way down and I
• 17:40
  found it. Do you remember John Jon
• 17:43
  Stenrude, absolutely the kicker for the Chiefs, who was so good
• 17:47
  and he was the first ever kicker to be gain acceptance into Pro
• 17:52
  Football Hall of Fame. Let me run these numbers by you.
• 17:55
  This was what it took to be an an Hall of Fame kicker back in
• 17:59
  the day. Keeping in mind that Brandon
• 18:00
  Aubrey is going to kick a 70 yarder Jon Stenrude, Hall of
• 18:04
  Famer lifetime from 40 to 49 yards a chip shot.
• 18:10
  A chip shot 150 of those kicks in his career.
• 18:13
  How many he have to make to be considered a Hall of Fame kicker
• 18:18
  back in the day? Well, it back in the day, over
• 18:21
  half I would say. He made 77.
• 18:23
  He just just just snuck by. But from 50 and beyond, he hits.
• 18:28
  He kicked 64, made 64 of those attempts, made 17 of them.
• 18:34
  How things have changed in the kicking department and how we
• 18:37
  view kickers within the last, I don't know, 30 years or
• 18:41
  whatever. How long has he been gone?
• 18:42
  Probably 40, probably a little bit longer.
• 18:44
  But this Aubrey is unbelievable. So he kicked a 64 yarder that
• 18:47
  was probably good from about 70 with time expired, they go to
• 18:51
  overtime. I'm watching them.
• 18:53
  I'm watching the the score bug. That's what it's called,
• 18:56
  watching the score bug as I'm watching my Broncos go down in
• 18:59
  flames and I'm like tick, tick, tick.
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  I'm thinking even if it's a tie there was over 3000 like 3500
• 19:07
  people took Cowboys in Survivor. I have a little something for
• 19:10
  you. I was hoping it ended in a tie.
• 19:11
  Because everybody loses. Everybody loses the new rule
• 19:15
  where both teams have to possess the football.
• 19:18
  Let's say you get the football 10 minutes on the clock.
• 19:20
  That's what they put on for overtime, which I don't get.
• 19:22
  But that aside, 10 minutes on the clock, marching down the
• 19:26
  field, long sustained Dr. You kick a field goal as time
• 19:31
  expires. Yeah, exhaust the whole 10
• 19:33
  minutes final. It's a tie game.
• 19:36
  Because the other team didn't. Get because the other team did
• 19:39
  not get the opportunity to possess be damned.
• 19:43
  I heard that from Gil Alexander with Visen yesterday.
• 19:46
  Which is? Does every coach know this?
• 19:49
  No. I, I want it, I want to see this
• 19:53
  now come to fruition and see if a coach knows instead of waiting
• 19:57
  till the clock gets down to 2 and call that time out, call
• 20:00
  that time out with eight. Now, does that also mean that
• 20:02
  the kicking or receiving team has to have actual possession of
• 20:05
  the ball? Do you Kick It Out of bounds?
• 20:07
  Do you Kick It Out of the back of the end?
• 20:08
  So as long as they have 1 snap, you're thinking well.
• 20:10
  Does it have to be a snap? I don't know that part.
• 20:13
  And Gil said he wasn't sure on that part of the rule either.
• 20:16
  But if you kick a walk off as time expires, that tie game to
• 20:21
  see it happen. Oh, my God, I had no idea.
• 20:24
  All right, we'll take a time out.
• 20:25
  We'll come back. What?
• 20:26
  What do we got coming up on Vinny Iyer?
• 20:28
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• 20:30
  Elliot Kleff will join us. Matt Snyder, Trent and I will
• 20:33
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• 20:35
  with me because I got to get Treya Savage into that
• 20:38
  conversation. Oh, baby.
• 20:40
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  Vinny Trenton can two weeks into the season.
• 21:10
  Vinny what do you know two weeks in that maybe you weren't sure
• 21:14
  of going into the season. Is there a team that that you're
• 21:17
  kind of on the fence about that you either in a positive or
• 21:20
  negative way that you've turned either for or?
• 21:22
  Against, yeah, I didn't know what we're going to get from the
• 21:26
  Colts and the Colts have obviously played pretty well and
• 21:29
  the first game, look, they're playing Dolphins.
• 21:31
  I don't expect much from the Dolphins.
• 21:32
  Sucked me in. They showed me something against
• 21:34
  Denver, a playoff team, the fight all the way.
• 21:37
  Their offense also looks spectacular right now with
• 21:40
  Daniel Jones. Shawn Taylor is back leading the
• 21:43
  NFL and rushing after two games. So they're looking really
• 21:47
  competitive and this AFC S is very wide open.
• 21:52
  This year. The Texans have fallen to O and
• 21:54
  two. It could get worse actually this
• 21:56
  week because they're playing the Jaguars and the Jaguars could be
• 21:58
  two and one and the Colts could keep rolling against the Titans.
• 22:02
  So the hole could be getting bigger and bigger from the
• 22:05
  Texans. And the Colts are one of those
• 22:08
  teams we're going to watch. And The funny thing is the
• 22:10
  Bengals and 49ers, like I've never seen, I guess 22, no teams
• 22:15
  that are playing well as a complete team, like have so much
• 22:20
  pessimism, but they're both in good position to keep afloat
• 22:24
  here. I mean, there's just not a lot
• 22:25
  of teams that are going to compete for some of these key
• 22:28
  playoff spots and and look, immediately there's a break for
• 22:33
  the Bengals. I mean they go into Minnesota
• 22:35
  like the Vikings are not playing well.
• 22:37
  Carson Wentz to make his start first start there.
• 22:39
  Jake Browning has quite a bit of experience coming in and he was
• 22:43
  a former Viking. Everyone knows that that he was
• 22:46
  cut there pretty late. And so I think he's going to
• 22:49
  come in and play well. So that's a break for them.
• 22:50
  The 49ers, look, the Cardinals are also off to a hot start, but
• 22:54
  I won't think anyone's going to weigh them too much based on the
• 22:58
  playing the Panthers and Saints their first two games.
• 23:01
  So there's that. But the 49ers, again, that's a
• 23:04
  tough match up there for the Cardinals.
• 23:07
  So again, these teams can win with systems and things, and
• 23:10
  sometimes the schedule works your favor.
• 23:13
  Well, the quarterback carousel continues, 5 starting
• 23:17
  quarterbacks out already this year.
• 23:20
  Anything that you can see, Vinny, any reasonings behind it
• 23:22
  or just, you know, kind of injury luck going against
• 23:25
  quarterbacks at this point in time?
• 23:27
  And for all those teams, certainly very impactful.
• 23:29
  What is the most impactful when we look at these teams and maybe
• 23:32
  what they're going to be this season out of the five QBs out
• 23:35
  this week? Yeah, I mean, now it's like more
• 23:39
  than ever that you want to have a backup quarterback that's
• 23:42
  capable and in your system. And I think Jones and Browning
• 23:45
  are two cases in point there. And I was the I Wentz does he
• 23:48
  was a very late addition we know to Minnesota.
• 23:50
  But the system again, these systems, whatever the Rams,
• 23:55
  Vikings, Falcons, Bengal system is, is pretty good for
• 23:59
  quarterbacks. They're going to help you
• 24:01
  because it's all Pat to Sean Mcdade, right.
• 24:02
  So that's going to help once for sure.
• 24:04
  But again, I think just the nature of this game is what's
• 24:10
  happening. A lot of pass attempts, right?
• 24:12
  People dropping back and passing a lot more teams than 60% of the
• 24:16
  time, right? If you're handing the ball off,
• 24:18
  the quarterback is out of harm's way.
• 24:19
  That's it. And then like a lot of
• 24:22
  quarterbacks also running quite a bit.
• 24:24
  I mean, Patrick Mahomes, the 16th leading rusher in the NFL,
• 24:27
  I'm sure Chiefs fans wish they were two and O.
• 24:29
  And he had 0 rush yards and he was not hurt.
• 24:32
  But when you look at it, I mean, they're having to take their
• 24:36
  games with their own hands. So I think some things are
• 24:39
  fluky. I think Joe Burrow, a lot of
• 24:40
  things are fluky with him, but a lot of it is tied to the
• 24:43
  offensive line always having some issue in Cincinnati.
• 24:47
  But these things can happen all the time.
• 24:48
  Last one is kind of didn't step in the right spot and that that
• 24:52
  happened there with him. So again, sometimes there's no
• 24:56
  rhyme or reason to these quarterback injuries and then
• 24:59
  they just add up. But the question is, how well
• 25:02
  are you positioned as a complete team with a system that's going
• 25:05
  to support that quarterback to try to bridge it for a few
• 25:07
  games? Now you play guy like Jones or
• 25:10
  Browning for 10 games, they're going to get exposed.
• 25:13
  But if you play them for three to four, four or five games, I
• 25:16
  think you'll see. I mean, now Browning's got to
• 25:18
  play the longer stretch, but we've also seen him win, be on
• 25:22
  the winning side when he's had to start seven games before.
• 25:25
  I want to go back to the the Vikings get your take on JJ
• 25:28
  McCarthy. He's played eight quarters,
• 25:29
  seven of them been mediocre and being kind.
• 25:32
  I had one really good quarter against a, you know, a Bears
• 25:35
  team that was without without some guys.
• 25:37
  If Wentz plays well and and look, KOC was able to turn
• 25:44
  Joshua Dobbs into an adequate quarterback.
• 25:46
  I mean, he's got a long list, right, of guys that he's been
• 25:49
  able to elevate. McCarthy notwithstanding.
• 25:52
  What's a what, what are the Vikings?
• 25:53
  Will they have a difficult decision when it comes to their
• 25:56
  QB? If Wentz plays well and
• 25:57
  McCarthy's been, you know, mediocre, what will they do,
• 26:00
  Vinny? Yeah, it's something they have
• 26:03
  to evaluate. And it's unfortunate because the
• 26:05
  break says, look, they didn't expect maybe Sam Darnold has
• 26:10
  started all last year, but they needed him early and then turned
• 26:12
  out to be the thing where he needed the whole way.
• 26:14
  And then maybe then have that high of expectations for him to
• 26:18
  play that well. But then that put him by and
• 26:20
  everyone's comparing McCarthy, what their cousins and Sam
• 26:24
  Darnold are doing all the time. And it's like, maybe not fair,
• 26:27
  right? If they just came in with the
• 26:29
  rookie, he had the red shirt year, he was healthy enough to
• 26:31
  at least take reps, you know, then you'd have a different
• 26:34
  story. But basically you're starting
• 26:36
  from scratch and going back and it just has to be patient.
• 26:38
  I mean, you only had two starts so far and he's one and one and
• 26:41
  he had a big comeback in the first game.
• 26:44
  So let's be patient on this. I think there's some kinks
• 26:47
  they're going to have to work out.
• 26:49
  And look, maybe Jordan Addison is bigger part of this offense
• 26:53
  than people would realize about that.
• 26:56
  And the fast protection has been as I think the offensive line is
• 26:59
  not played as well as it can. And Minnesota, you're not
• 27:03
  getting much of running game right now.
• 27:04
  So you got to support your gun quarterback a lot better than
• 27:07
  they are. Get Kelly and Darasaw back and
• 27:10
  that certainly would change, you'd think, of that Vikings
• 27:12
  offensive line. So last night, Tom Brady's up in
• 27:14
  the booth with a headset on. To some people, that rankled
• 27:17
  people. My first thought was this Vinny,
• 27:20
  oh boy, if Jerry Jones sees this, great, he's going to be in
• 27:22
  a coach's booth next with a headset on.
• 27:24
  Jerry's going to be calling place for the Cowboys here
• 27:26
  pretty quick. Well, this is a conspiracy
• 27:30
  theory. You can start.
• 27:32
  He's no stranger to conspiracy theory.
• 27:34
  Yes, think about that. So he's he's up in the booth for
• 27:38
  the Raiders. They're playing the Commanders
• 27:41
  this week. He was doing the booth for the
• 27:43
  game for the Commanders the week before, and this week he's going
• 27:48
  to be doing the Cowboys, Bears, and the Raiders are playing the
• 27:51
  Bears after he's going to look at the Bears.
• 27:53
  So you want to start some conspiracy theories?
• 27:56
  He's scouting. I don't know if he scouted well
• 27:58
  enough because Raiders did not look good at all against the
• 28:01
  Chargers, which I wonder if he gave them secret Intel on the
• 28:04
  Patriots in Week 1, what he knew with Mike Grable.
• 28:07
  Who knows, right? But when I look at this, I just
• 28:11
  think it's a bad look. Just separate yourself from one
• 28:13
  of these teams. It's fortunate that the Raiders
• 28:15
  are not really a Fox team all that much or so that helps.
• 28:20
  But doing this on your off time seems a little suspicious.
• 28:24
  Maybe do all that stuff, maybe behind the scenes or don't do it
• 28:28
  so outwardly. But it seems like if you he
• 28:31
  wanted to hide it, he would have.
• 28:33
  I think there's a reason we did that.
• 28:35
  Is this the year that the Chargers maybe play up to some
• 28:38
  of the expectations they've had over the last few years?
• 28:41
  Herbert is healthy for now. Looks like a different player.
• 28:44
  He looks like an MVP candidate through two weeks.
• 28:47
  Chargers appear at this point to maybe have an edge in the AFC
• 28:51
  West. We're two weeks into it.
• 28:53
  I know we're overreacting, but your thoughts on what you've
• 28:55
  seen from the Chargers? Yeah, I mean, the Chargers we
• 28:58
  knew were going to be put together.
• 28:59
  I mean, what does Jim Harbaugh do everywhere he goes going back
• 29:02
  to University of San Diego, Stanford, It doesn't matter
• 29:06
  where this guy is at, right? He's going to win and he's going
• 29:09
  to win quickly, like turn around the team very quickly.
• 29:12
  He saw out of San Francisco, we saw it with Michigan, and he's
• 29:16
  going to make them championship caliber in a hurry.
• 29:18
  And he just needed one year to sort things out.
• 29:21
  Hey, what were we missing? We need to get a little bit
• 29:23
  better run game. We need to get an extra weapon
• 29:26
  here or two. We're Justin Herbert.
• 29:28
  We need to learn, be more aggressive and play
• 29:31
  complimentary football, protective and close out games,
• 29:34
  right? It's something that a lot of
• 29:36
  trouble with with the chargering kind of aspect.
• 29:39
  Well, Jim Herba's flipping that narrative just totally on its
• 29:42
  side here. But they're not going to do
• 29:45
  that. They're going to be hard nosed.
• 29:46
  They're going to be mentally tough, physically tough.
• 29:48
  They're going to put away teams. And I think Justin Herbert is
• 29:51
  the ideal quarterback for that. He's a big dude, hard to bring
• 29:54
  down. He's got good mental makeup
• 29:56
  where he doesn't get too high or too low.
• 29:58
  So I think everything is going really well for the Chargers.
• 30:01
  Now. If you win this week, Denver at
• 30:04
  home, that's three divinion wins to start the year.
• 30:07
  I mean, then you're on a roll here.
• 30:08
  So, so the Chargers look right now might be the AFC West
• 30:13
  favorite until the Chiefs get back together.
• 30:15
  So, I mean, this is maybe the nightmare that Andy Reid didn't
• 30:19
  want necessarily correct with all these caliber of coaches
• 30:22
  wanting to come to the division. But again, Harbaugh seems up to
• 30:25
  the task. Childhood this year.
• 30:27
  Vinny, it's September 16th and I've already thrown dirt on my
• 30:30
  Chicago Bears, where you called home for four years during
• 30:33
  college. At Northwestern.
• 30:35
  The Bears look like the same Bears.
• 30:38
  Unorganized. Undisciplined.
• 30:40
  The new coach doesn't matter. The same old Bears Any hope at
• 30:43
  all for Chicago? Well, I think the problem is
• 30:46
  that maybe we didn't look at this exact look, I don't think
• 30:49
  there's anything wrong with Ben Johnson as a coach, but I think
• 30:52
  there is a lot of things that are lingering from that Uber
• 30:56
  Fusara and guys that don't totally buy into what's going on
• 31:00
  here in Chicago. You know, like DJ Moore and
• 31:02
  these type of players that they spend good money on, like
• 31:05
  veterans, they're not coming through or buying into what they
• 31:08
  want. Then there's a lot of the blame
• 31:10
  on Ryan Poles that he has not built like a good roster in
• 31:14
  terms of the chemistry, right? Bring you all together.
• 31:16
  I mean, there's some talent, but there's not talent that's risen
• 31:19
  yet. So I think Ben Johnson is trying
• 31:22
  to bring that all together. And look, his job is to come in.
• 31:24
  He's an offense guy, get the offense going.
• 31:27
  And that has been flashing, right.
• 31:29
  But would you give a 50 points give of all those points in the
• 31:32
  fourth quarter? That's a defensive problem.
• 31:35
  Look, I don't know how they can quick fix this, but they
• 31:39
  definitely have have a lot of underachieving guys.
• 31:42
  And look, I think the first thing that's going to go, I
• 31:44
  think Ben Johnson at least is going to get a couple years see
• 31:47
  what happens with Kale Williams. But this could be the end for
• 31:49
  Ryan polls if you don't see any significant kind of improvement
• 31:54
  based on the personnel they have.
• 31:55
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• 31:58
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• 32:01
  And of course, Vinny, A Northwestern grad, is a three
• 32:04
  time Jeopardy champion. Vinny, thanks for doing this as
• 32:07
  always. We will reach out in a few
• 32:08
  weeks. Thank you, Vinny.
• 32:09
  Appreciate it. Yep.
• 32:11
  Thanks guys. Yep, good to talk to you, Vinny
• 32:12
  Ayer, as we catch up on the NFL with Vinny.
• 32:15
  All right, Elliot Cleff, he's listening to some of the Hawkeye
• 32:17
  players. Kirk Ference is coming up in
• 32:19
  about an hour or so. We'll catch Elliot.
• 32:22
  Between that, he'll join Trent and I on the other side.
• 32:25
  Miller and Condon talking sports on the eye with Sports Radio
• 32:27
  Network. I'm Hillary Condon, welcome back
• 32:35
  Trent and I are with you until 2:00 in our number 2, Matt
• 32:39
  Snyder from CBSSports.com. Well, they're one of their
• 32:43
  baseball columnist will join us to kick off the hour.
• 32:47
  Elliott Clough's been had a busy morning.
• 32:49
  He's been at the the Hawkeye complex.
• 32:52
  They've got to had players earlier.
• 32:54
  They have Kirk Ference coming up here in about an hour from right
• 32:57
  now. Friday night, Rutgers hosts Iowa
• 33:00
  numbers what trends about 1 1/2. Still somewhere around there
• 33:02
  Hawks a slight favorite. Elliot to Hawkeye insider 24/7
• 33:06
  sports. Hello Sir, how are you?
• 33:09
  I'm good. How are you guys doing?
• 33:10
  Doing well. So I know Granowski was part of
• 33:12
  the availability today. I guess we'll start there with
• 33:16
  the quarterback who had to be happier with his performance
• 33:20
  against UMass. Obviously, the waters about to
• 33:22
  get deeper here in the weeks ahead, but nonetheless, a pretty
• 33:26
  good maybe a confidence builder not only for him but for the
• 33:29
  offense in general going into this Friday, Elliot.
• 33:33
  Yeah. You know, that's that's kind of
• 33:35
  the way that the the offense and that mark has been approaching
• 33:38
  it. Of course there are.
• 33:40
  There's still places to improve. Really got to address those
• 33:43
  drops, in my opinion, from the receivers.
• 33:45
  But you know, Mark can only do so much from that.
• 33:47
  But yeah, I mean, I, I really think we got our first look at
• 33:50
  at what South Dakota State Mark was, was able to do there in, in
• 33:54
  Brookings. You know, that 13 yard run where
• 33:57
  he got to break 3 or 4 tackles and and hype up the crowd.
• 34:01
  To me, that's, that's what you were looking for when when you
• 34:03
  brought in a guy like that. Now, now we've got to do it
• 34:06
  again. You know, a team that isn't
• 34:08
  that, that is a Big 10 team, 1 and 2 has had a winning record
• 34:13
  more recently than 2010 against FDS opponents.
• 34:16
  So this will be an indication as to what Mark is, what he can
• 34:21
  continue to improve on and if he can, he can take that momentum
• 34:24
  into into the Big 10 season. Second play from the in the game
• 34:28
  they take a shot down the field. Had a couple of deeper outs on
• 34:30
  that one. Found Sam Phillips in a play
• 34:32
  later. Anderson into the end zone for
• 34:34
  the touchdown on the RPO. Sign of things to come or it's
• 34:39
  UMass. I mean, both of them, I'm sure
• 34:41
  are a part of the truth. What's close to the truth?
• 34:44
  It was a terrible opponent or yes, we are seeing this passing
• 34:47
  game. The evolution is happening.
• 34:51
  You put me in a tough spot and nobody's going to like this
• 34:54
  answer. UMass is awful.
• 34:59
  You just got to be honest when when when addressing, you know,
• 35:02
  the stuff that happened last week in the opponent.
• 35:05
  I thought Mark was a little bit late on on both of those throws,
• 35:08
  you know, and I might be nitpicking considering, you
• 35:11
  know, I was had their their history of of difficulty on
• 35:14
  offense, but the place did happen.
• 35:16
  I you know, I, I think it's I think it's a cautious optimism
• 35:19
  that you have to approach going forward.
• 35:21
  You can say that that things are moving in the right direction,
• 35:23
  but I mean, like context matters, right?
• 35:25
  I mean, and, and and you might mass is really bad.
• 35:28
  They're in a first year transition with a bunch of
• 35:30
  injuries on their team. Like I said, they haven't had a
• 35:33
  winning record in 2010 and they went six and five in that
• 35:36
  season, made the transition to FBS and they've been awful.
• 35:39
  So I mean, you just have to take that into consideration.
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  It can be a confidence builder, though.
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  I mean, like you, like you said, like that you have to take the
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  optimism when you can get it when it comes to this Iowa
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  offense, especially over the last half decade.
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  But yeah, I mean, if I have to choose between the two, I have
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  to say that you Matt Bad. But, you know, I don't discount
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  the fact that they might have some momentum going into the Big
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  10 in conference play. I was, I was under the
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  impression, obviously wrongly, that Moulton would be back maybe
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  sooner rather than later. And I would have thought he
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  would have been back for now. So he's not going to play on
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  Friday. And what what's kind of what are
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  you hearing along those lines? And then how do you think that
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  the carries will break down? Is it is it Patterson going to
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  get significantly more playing time, more carries than Xavier
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  Williams? I think it's a little dinged up
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  in his own right. But what about Moulton?
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  And then who will be The Who will lead the Hawks as far as
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  carries this coming Friday? Yeah, You know, Kirk will
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  continually emphasize until the day he's done coaching that the
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  that the depth chart doesn't matter.
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  So we'll we'll probably learn a little bit more as as we get
• 36:49
  closer to Friday and inevitably somebody's going to ask about
• 36:52
  Kumari and still have a chance to play on Friday.
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  It would not surprise me if if they, you know, keep him
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  sidelined until Indiana, but it's just been a week to week
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  thing. Apparently he's been progressing
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  well and and you know, they they hope to get him out there sooner
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  rather than later. So if anything, I think he'll be
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  on the depth chart for for next week.
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  I guess Indiana, but with with Xavier Williams a little banged
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  up. I mean, I think one thing that
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  I've been saying, especially following this weekend was last
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  weekend was that Jazz Patterson has been doing really well in
• 37:23
  his specific role. And I think he should stay in
• 37:26
  that specific role where he's kind of the secondary, maybe
• 37:29
  tertiary back and comp can compliment with the other bags
• 37:32
  to do. But I mean, at the same time, I
• 37:35
  think he's been playing better than TJ Washington.
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  So in my opinion, if Xavier Williams doesn't go or if he's
• 37:40
  limited, Jazz Patterson should start.
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  Will that happen? That's that's the question.
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  If I had to get just based on what we know about Iowa, TJ
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  Washington got to start because he's had more experience getting
• 37:51
  the start, but we'll see. And then additionally meant
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  like, I love what we saw from Nathan McNeil.
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  I love what we've seen from Nathan McNeil.
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  I I love what I've heard from behind the scenes.
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  Like he's, he plays way he plays like he's, he's been in college
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  football for a few years. He's savvy, got IQ.
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  He sees his vision is really good.
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  He's really quick, made some plays despite the the younger
• 38:18
  offensive line missing some blocks this last week.
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  I would love to see more of him. Will we?
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  Again, that's a question mark that we won't find out until
• 38:25
  Friday. But in my opinion, Jazz
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  Patterson should get the bulk of the refs, especially if Xavier
• 38:31
  and and Kamari don't go on Friday.
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  So it's a short week. And even last year, though they
• 38:37
  lost to UCLA, they jumped out to a 10, nothing lead.
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  They've been so good on Black Friday against Nebraska.
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  What is it about this program, about Kirk, that they've been
• 38:45
  good in these spots? So he, Spencer Peters probably
• 38:47
  had his best game against Maryland on a short week on a
• 38:49
  Friday night. What is it about the program
• 38:51
  that it seems like they're so good in these in these tight
• 38:54
  spots? Yeah, you know, and.
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  That, that's a good question. I, I think, you know, I'll steal
• 39:01
  a, a quote from Stan Van Gundy and I'm not going to get it
• 39:05
  exactly right, but I'm going to steal this from when I was
• 39:07
  covering the Pelicans in 2020. So real throwback right here is
• 39:12
  he emphasized being able to win or, or play well at any time and
• 39:18
  any space anywhere. And I think that, you know,
• 39:22
  maybe without saying as much, that is an emphasis with, with
• 39:25
  Kurt Ferris and the staff and the team that he has one.
• 39:30
  And two, you know, one thing that the guys talked about this
• 39:33
  week is, is getting into things a little bit early, making sure
• 39:35
  you're drinking as much water as possible, eating as much as
• 39:38
  possible to recover better. You know, I'm not saying that
• 39:41
  that other programs aren't doing that, but there, there might be
• 39:44
  an added edge there from, from behind the scenes.
• 39:47
  And, you know, I, I do think philosophically those things
• 39:50
  matter, like the, the messages that these guys that this staff
• 39:54
  pushes or presses on on players matters like anytime, anywhere,
• 39:58
  any opponent. And, and I think, I think, yeah,
• 40:02
  I, I think that the games like this is where you start to see
• 40:05
  that messaging start to come through where, where they win
• 40:08
  these games on, on Friday nights even.
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  Though they're not used to playing on Friday nights and and
• 40:12
  they haven't probably haven't done it since high school for a
• 40:15
  lot of them. Out of time Elliot want to ask
• 40:17
  you about Harold, who I thought maybe had his best moment as a
• 40:21
  Hawkeye this year, but we are out of time. 24/7 Sports,
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  hawkeyeinsider.com, Elliot Cleft joins us.
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  Elliot, thank you for doing this brother.
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  Appreciate it. Yep.
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  Thanks guys. Good.
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  To talk to you Hour 2 and we'll get into Harold.
• 40:33
  Did you thought? Did you like his game on?
• 40:35
  Saturday. I agree with you.
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