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Ep 261 - "Pads Poppin'" Saints Training Camp Week 1 Recap · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: tomorrow, the second day that this things have had it practices in training camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before we get into all of that, if you guys are watching this on YouTube, watch it a lot, we appreciate y'all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we have like eight, ten people just already waiting for the show to start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is your first time joining us at these things about party podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am Adam joined by my co-host Ryan aka Wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have covered the saints in a variety of factions over these six plus years from in your bowls, pro-days, compines, and so we it it you said in the discord to kind of blew my mind that there's like a thing species in game next year or next weekend, like next year in April, pre-sees like football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but which is it's exciting it's just and it's crazy that the season has gotten here so quickly and that's it once that first preseason game come it's like boom boom boom
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first preseason game is on next Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be at the second preseason game, the Rams game, that's the 22nd, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's just the final one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Final one to get to the Cowboys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jags, Rams, and I figure who that you into preseason with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, appreciate all y'all for joining us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big, saints week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like just the last these upcoming weeks you have drew the Drew Breeze Hall of Fame induction this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have a little little last stream and a little watch party for our podcast, for all patreon's patreon.com slash thing spot party.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Might see a lot of grown man on on zoom set,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just so happy to see my goal just get as far as like the pairs we got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So just NFL posted in highlights and clips and stuff and I like seeing like the young generation and kind of can't but watching like the last part of his career or miss some of the right and it is you just see read the comments and stuff they're like they're
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Jason as who has the most memorable abrupt retirement in a full history, Ricky Williams or Jalen Polka.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's easily, it's easily RIP, Vante Davis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Easily, Vante, yeah, that's the best one of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Me, gay, hat time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me, gay, starting, starting in a game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shut up to pay me when we pay movies and say hello gentlemen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're gonna try not something different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But wanted to give you y'all who are joining us who watching the audio or for the video format of our podcast live stream or if you're watching this later That's what we're talking about on this episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got, you know, Jason already talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe, uh, the Jalen Polk retiring suddenly out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got the season where reads is the is the door, is the door open?
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[SPEAKER_01]: God talk about the, I don't say the office struggling, but just the defense, seemingly having being a head of the offense early in training camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gonna get some very in brown talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very, I'm not surprised, but we'll get into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also,
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[SPEAKER_01]: some Jordan Tyson stuff, talk about some early camp sleepers, just in terms of players just to keep your eye out on for who's made some plays or maybe just some scuttle boat work on adhering with early camp players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I wanted to start here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a perfect place to start of just the NFC self-attrition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to talk about a division that has been ravaged with injuries very early in training camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You knew you looked no further than the NFC self and I was texting this to a friend earlier and I said, it's early, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And not to put any juju out for the Saints but like, man, if they could just think, healthy like, the division was already already kind of maybe for the sake of them, but it is setting
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they go, they got to go out and play, but it's saying to be like right in front of them, just think about just the NSE sales, start with the Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had, they had the injury with Nick Scorton, Terres is ACL out for the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Second year, defensive end, who was going to be very impactful in their defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Brousel, a draft pick they invested, I believe a third round pick who was potentially going to be in their rotation and their offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a, I think it was like a torrent LCL, he's going for the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: then the Panthers right tackle, Tyler Moton, their best offensive lineman, Demo Whitley, plus, very similar to Crystal Lobby was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like he's going to miss at least the first half of the season to start the season in 2026.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's three key players that the Panthers don't like, you know, at least two of those are out for the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of them is going to be out for probably half of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In Blood Clops with Tricky, as we know, as we've experienced with the Crystal Lobby situation, go into the Falcons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To talk about lower hasn't even practiced because of his back has not practiced back his issues back issues already know You have the the Michael Pinnick's his injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's recovering from his ACL He's throwing in seven seven seven seven's, but you know, he's so he's still recovering from his injury Then you had them with today the news that Walker on
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[SPEAKER_01]: one of our one of our draft base from last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done that with the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the James Pierce situation was not injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just being a shitty person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know if the NFL is gonna do in terms of punishment or suspension, but I would have spent it at the sliding scale and I never know what the league, but he made miss anywhere from three to six to eight games upcoming this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bucks are different because it's not really injuries with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a lot of drama, which that's sometimes about can faster, can just cause like the vibe and the organization, I absolutely feel a little off and dealing with the beat a bad thing, dealing with the baker may feel a contract situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know there's this like, and I get it from a friend perspective like, man, just take the training wheels off for Jordan Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I'm going out there and just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bigger picture, it's a bigger bird's Pinch words of my favorite hate coach, Dennis James Allen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just keep doing what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep doing what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop that shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for doing Kelly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because right, like the Saints, they lost Brian Pressey during the tour in ACO.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really mean it was an injury, Jalen Poker tire, what have you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if y'all could just stay healthy through training camp or through preseason, you already have like a leg up in terms of just the attrition war in the division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: tell you man, just, you know, you're going to get banged up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get banged up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be next some bruises.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if they could like at least keep, you know, the top level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, starters and, you know, somebody that kept them relatively healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying, or major I or there's no major losses, especially like offensive line, defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I already lost a receipt, like we can't afford much more there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With deep air wire receiver right now, it'll be great to stay deep at wire receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're different to back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know how good the defensive backfield really is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be good like not to lose much there, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: really it's just is you know it's hard I mean NFL just hard to operate like this you know it's just you're going to get going to get hurt I guess it's a fact you're going to get hurt you just hope those
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[SPEAKER_00]: doesn't happen in clusters in like one, you know, critical position group, but nothing like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And especially, you just hate to see it, especially like we young players on second year players who are just trying to like, well, it's way hateful like Nick scored, not G-Live Walker, those guys who just start in the kind of scratches that they're up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, ah, because it's just such a setback, like, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you pretty, we don't get any of those, you know, for the Saints, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they're Saints for a finally, or like, have young players that they're, you know, when they come up and finally, so please, please don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how it's going to be interesting to see how the plan with players like Jordan Tyson, Kendra Miller to a lesser degree, how that plan is evolves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say this from like a head coaching aspect and standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It takes a lot of willpower.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like to have put a young player on a plan and stay to it, because if I was a hit close bro, I got a new talk like, imagine like it is when you buy a new electronic bro, like imagine you just got to put, you can only play with electronic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a couple of days out of the week, were you just like, I was like the kid, you know, my mom used to always said, because I'm taking the shit out of the box, as soon as I get in the car, you know, yeah, as soon as I get in the car, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I
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[SPEAKER_00]: They literally have individualized plans for every player based on their status.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's down to the actual individual and they're sticking with it and they're thinking of everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll see how it plays out, but like so far, I'd like you how it plays out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even gonna try to pronounce that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But says, as a Saints fan that lives in Atlanta, the Pinnix love fest is ending fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's truly on the clock regardless of the injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it, yeah, which is still, it's just actually kind of crazy because, yeah, like, I mean, you talk about it, you know, he was like, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pick number nine, night overall, eight, eight nights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some like that, yeah, some like something like that is like, any play, you know, he played,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think he's played like a full season of games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he did, he's probably like a max or like 15 games maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, like it wasn't right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the worst quarterback and I've ever seen, it just left a lot to be desired.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it just seemed like about as if he's JJ McCarthy, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like he didn't play as like I remember, was it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that Jaden's rookie season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So was that last year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm going to, I just remember him and Jaden Daniel's having like a great like dual a Monday football or whatever time time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like just going back and forth and just scoring, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the talents there, you can make an argument in terms of the offense, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not, I don't want to get too deep in the Falca's woods, but it is crazy to see kind of both where Pinnock's and JJ McCarthy are for after going, you know, top 10 in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Slag just moved on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We ought to get it like get out of here, Ben.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dot, they said us to do rack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't give me starting on a door
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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of, like, young weapons and players, like the Jalen Polk news that came out Sunday, Saturday, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This past weekend, yeah, it was just, you know, he had missed two days, it was reported he had, you know, it missed two days of training camp, do the personal reasons, and then obviously the team put him on the F-I retired list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just kind of came out of, kind of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just speaking, like, I haven't heard anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, I don't, I don't, and people like, you know, I hope he's okay mentally and all that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could have just, and it could just be a simple and someone who just realized like, there aren't, wasn't into the game and the best thing for them was to just walk away and why they still had their help, which is very an admirable thing to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just what's interesting and like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was like, he had worked his stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we had to see it in training.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by like, he had worked himself up in like the Saints, receive a room hierarchy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he was probably going to be like, what was he before?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like every time I got in that cup, everybody that covers the team was like, man, he was, he was heavily involved in OTAs, looking good, he was which up, you know, fishing and hanging out and doing workouts and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was pretty much pencil-dinner like he was going to be on a team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was, yes, for certain going to make the team, if he could tell you to like perform a training camp, it's stuff obviously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just, what are those things where it's like, well, maybe he just realized like, man, this ain't for me, like, this ain't for me, I've got to made a couple of million of my contract or whatever, take that shit and live my life, you know what I'm saying, so it was like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's also one of the things like, man, I don't know if the Saints like had a feeling about it or not, but them dressed in three wide receivers, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, I kind of glad you did that kind of glad they didn't go in like some Saints fans were like, oh, you already got Paul, what you need all these wide receivers for like, what that, what that narrative of like with the team has
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to rehash it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that Thankfully the team didn't listen to that that section of the fan rest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great Jabari Clark said the Michael Thomas jersey curse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we'll fully loot it to that on Twitter and then it got Copy and paste it and stolen and put on on Facebook
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, you know, you didn't, oh, you didn't see other discord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, they, they took your tweet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like they stole like you're, you're in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do Kevin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do Kevin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're our new Kevin and co said we got to see what we, what we have in Palmer and Bob memes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's exactly what people were like, say, but, but we mean, we'll put it on them DBs and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come hollett come hollett is other other thirty one teams Surface this go for the notice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I let But you you could just see Chanahan cooking some shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like a bug means.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh I want to be mad bro Wouldn't be mad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why I'm just getting off and down to see cool get off fucking dean What get catch this ship from Brockbrat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't don't want it But let's Transition this on the flip side
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[SPEAKER_01]: is that very on-brown keeps showing up the paddock practice yesterday had a great catch down the sideline, open my ball from Spencer Rouss, but rather also like I kind of gets lost because it was shut but like he's still like has just a whip bro like he'd be like don't feel some crazy throws and it was just good to see you know he I don't
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[SPEAKER_01]: we're not there at the practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But look like he had ran like a deep over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was wide open Spencer hit him right in the hands and he dropped it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He dropped it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then later on in practice, Rodler goes back to him on a much harder
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[SPEAKER_01]: catch and like just over the shoulder catch just down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember when they drafted them and I looked up his Kentucky and I and I said it after post draft I was like he just has some shaheed like just that I'm and I wasn't trying to compare him to a receipt of he because like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's different, like Richie, she's beat, it's just, but just that ability to just make explosive plays and just kind of tilt the field, just to have that and seeing where he is, he could argue, like he may be further along and where he is, maybe like Bryce Lance, you got drafted higher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, it's a thing for you, you really got to be excited about the potential of all of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you could come away with a guy at it, even if he just gives you, like, rookie, rookie year, she came off that injury and just, you know, six round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might, if he gives you that rookie year, he wears just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: eight snaps a game or whatever and put it like eight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like eight design snaps a game, take that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus the like kick or turn and put returns to take that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing was like when I looked at them, I was like, okay, this guy's gonna be like a kick and turn and put returns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe get an end around in there a little misdirection and something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I like when I started seeing them just in the OTAs and many cabiles like, hey, he moved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like a fool of, but then I was like let me just wait because you see a lot of guys shine like that when there's no contact and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like let's wait till we see get the pads on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, look at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, yes, when it's best days in the first, first padded practice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First, now I'm like, okay, we really might have something really might have something here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: even at little shot the bookroom media for the clip like one of the first clips of believe it was training camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just it was just a clip of brown catch in a ball like on the sideline and in total tapping and it just it looks just like what
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good and I'm not like just like what we see on a Sunday when players out there making plays right and he is draft Range may have been made have been decompressed because of how LSU was a mess and you know and and Nussmire planned to an injury and the it just
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it just, oh, it just, I'm saying, I guess, same thing you, you do got to be excited about where the potential is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And kind of keeping with this theme and track with later around draft picks, Lorenzo's house, Lorenzo's house?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: like like okay like we haven't seen a ton of him like in team and stuff like that and how is it doing but like when you watch him watch him in the winter ones you watch him in some of the team snaps and just watch how he moves like defensive backs and corner backs does just one of those positions well you just gotta have like an emphasis and like this is a rounder like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe as a safety, you could get by with a little, you know, would not be in like an amazing athlete, but like as a corner pick, you have to be an athlete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is an athlete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you just hope in that he could learn, you know, the question with him was like, how much can he pick up as far as not the techniques and all that stuff?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you already see like he has that football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, whatever you think so whatever you want calling so like even if if he becomes like maybe man Just somebody that can rotate in and that be huge bro that'll be so huge for a team that needs some cornerbacks Cornerbacks second, I'm just interested in just where they made I don't I know the last practice So yesterday's practice he got some snap to like
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[SPEAKER_01]: behind at the star position and slot position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, Sankers, the, you know, Pennsylvania starter, you got Jaden Price.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jaden Price has the, as the back up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then kind of, you know, White King, White King, right up with a name, Jaden, White boy name, Jaden, Jaden, who I got top two bro?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who I got top two bro?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who I got top two bro?
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[SPEAKER_01]: still far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got we got we got we got to claim some shit back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to claim some shit back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did any white white, too?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you look at it.
21:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a white kid.
21:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
21:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, Shane.
21:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You're my real dad.
21:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm rooting for him.
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And like what a what a story, right?
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he came from the CFL last year from a real correct.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: these upcoming preseason games, these joint practices, so they have a joint practice next week with the jigs and then they have the joint practices, the cowboys on the 18th and they have what they have on with the rams and that was going to be closed but they have on with the rams when they're in when they're in California.
22:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So, we're talking about these young players, these upcoming joint practices where I, as a fan, my football juices are going.
22:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting excited.
22:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, man, I want to see these young players make some plays in these joint practices that we can, you know, maybe see on the timeline or just be reported.
22:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know it's just like a function of everything, but I need, I need some more juice from Saints Training Camp in terms of the social media clips, or like, I think it's not,
22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, not if we look at the other teams, bro, I'm like, and y'all got like, they posted some nice shit.
23:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, Brian Thomas, doing your making fucking catches and Travis Hunter, making interceptions and making.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I need, I need.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: something bro like I need show me something the the brands with that Demante Adams catch like it was we get these grainy little you know pictures oh shout out to the same media but we get these like grainy little sciatic chance he likes
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But no, isn't it?
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what, he's got, that's the time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time
23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, I don't even know if it's about like just secretive, just like the players that's making some things that that's that's that's part of it too.
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, let's Kevin says things me to got them for your ass.
24:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's my bro.
24:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take our first break right here.
24:09
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back, talk about more Saints training camp, pads coming on, thoughts, buzz, all that.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take our first break.
24:17
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be right back after this.
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26:03
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26:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about.
26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: the opposite line.
26:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about the right guard spot.
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about the season release.
26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a reason is is is lovely wife partner, Kelly, Kelly, wife, Kelly, Pete had their first child and he, you know, season has been missing, missing practice or not missing.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's been excused from practice because of the the birth of his child, which is completely understandable.
26:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick Underhill asks a question to call him more yesterday in regards to Jeremiah right because seems like sounds like Jeremiah right gotten got him with the ones to staff to just two snaps, but still and those just to just look like it, you know, kind of and those very two limited steps like he had held his own in those two snaps.
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: it will be very interesting to see on how soon Caesar comes back from his returning to leave.
27:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And as a father who has had, like, materially, like, back when my benefits were asked, like, I was going, I was off a week, as opposed to, like, now with my current job, that could be going almost, like, three, three, four, or five, six months, y'all pissed me off.
27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Which, yeah, which is how it, which is how it should be.
27:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Porturnity, Morturnity, whatever.
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do wonder if there's external pressure where he feels like he needs to come back to training camp soon because if you let someone, because of the pressure's been on him and because it's play, it was not good last season.
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He was not good.
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You had the GM of the Saints calling him out by name, which never happens.
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Mickey Loom has never caused out players by name ever.
27:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And they drafted a guard in the fourth round.
27:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I do wonder if he is out longer, does that open the door for Jeremiah Wright?
28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't think he would lose his job to like, redunds, because it seems like it'd be like, whatever, but like, with that open the door for Jeremiah Wright to get more snaps and more snaps.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And if he's looking good, like, I don't know.
28:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what, I think it already did.
28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, by Ruiz missing those couple of days, one, you can't move or dines up to the ones.
28:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So now, now, Big Selma, wait, what would you like to call him?
28:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Big Selma has to play more in the tools and the three, so he's just getting more snaps more played.
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think just that him getting more reps opens the door itself.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So all you gotta do is let coaches start to see it.
28:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just starting to see it.
28:47
[SPEAKER_00]: They want to, they want to see a little more.
28:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just see a little more, you know?
28:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, see as it just takes a game out.
28:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Check all the time you need.
28:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But we could over here.
28:57
[SPEAKER_00]: We could over here.
28:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you just want to see a little more.
29:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting, bro.
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's one of the ones that I was like, I, he's not going to unsee season.
29:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And I still don't really see it happening.
29:11
[SPEAKER_00]: They could be a chance, could be a chance.
29:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he's good, ooh, because I got to talk about, we talk about guard.
29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we talk about little blind-side love tech.
29:21
[SPEAKER_00]: We talk about a guard.
29:22
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not saying it's easy, but a guard.
29:24
[SPEAKER_00]: A guard.
29:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a guard.
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But we've seen, you know, rookie guards in the league, like every year, like the times of rookie guards coming to the league, who, you know, was that I was just in the NFL Daily and the cheese may be starting an undrapted free agent at right tackle, bruh, like they.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And the context of that is he's looking so good early in training camp that Jalen Moore, who they paid like 50 million per season, I think in season before, like was supposed to slide in at right tackle after they, I don't know if they cut or just finally didn't bring back Joanne Taylor, but then they got to undrafted.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Undrafted for agent right tack when he's been looking good, so he might be starting a week one again You know, what Patrick my home's coming up off of and obviously that's his right side over his blind side But nonetheless like still so It can happen Let me just check him on the chat real quick Jack Hunter series will be a good father.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He likes rolling around on the ground
30:37
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30:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, side note, shout out to my guy, Andrew's Pete.
30:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, Andrew's Pete, good career.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Pete will tie us.
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been boy for us, back in the old podcast days, but, you know, shout out to Pete, man, we've been, you know, we've been up to Pete, Pete, long long, we're going to Pete.
30:59
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31:01
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31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And you do what you got to do, but got to make it all up.
31:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You do what you got to do.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no rush.
31:38
[SPEAKER_01]: No rush at all.
31:40
[SPEAKER_01]: No rush.
31:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Baby bonding is extremely extremely.
31:43
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31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be doing his luck, calisthenics, stretchin' this shit.
31:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll bring it to go.
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, I can't do it.
32:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, he's going to win it.
32:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Putting his thumb on the toe, so like, that's how he put in the butter on the toes.
32:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he has to thumb, man.
32:11
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32:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate it.
32:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the anger?
32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you play your wife that you lost your job?
32:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not her fault, I've been to do the thing.
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Go!
32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a baby?
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great point.
32:28
[SPEAKER_01]: If nothing else, it's Jordan's Reese's leash if he starts slow.
32:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
32:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what you want.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Ultimately, that's what you want.
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: You want Jeremiah right to show enough to where they feel like, okay, we got to pull this plug at some point if we's looking like he looked like, especially how he looked like early last season, whoo, it was so bad, oh, it was bad.
32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It was worst started, like when the worst started in the league bad, if he's looking that bad, you want someone to show enough this preseason to where they'll be like, okay, get on in that big color.
33:09
[SPEAKER_00]: you know.
33:13
[SPEAKER_01]: guard is such a position, and I'm not saying this is going to happen, but by Bixel, I'm going there and just look really good in preseason.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: If he looked really good in preseason, then that's a plus where it could be the reason why we're going to re-sluse this and start in position.
33:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not even necessarily by him being away.
33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It would just be like, if someone was looking that good, just play the young guy.
33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, let's say, anyway,
33:40
[SPEAKER_01]: What else from training camp from from your perspective is caught your attention?
33:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I've kind of don't a lot of topics out there See anything more than this that's the whole list No, no, there's probably more I What the off the off the offense or the defense being ahead of the offense?
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, definitely like the first couple of days, it was, I did, I mean, the defense was smothering the offense, smothering.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was real fascinated to see how it looked, wants to got the pads on.
34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And, um,
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a lot of the same with the pads on, but we did finally start to see the offense, move the ball a little better, you know, matriculate the ball down the field.
34:26
[SPEAKER_00]: One black commenting I saw, like all last week was, when things got really congested and could this, when they'll get down in the red zone and stuff like that, that's when you'll see a lot of the miscures, the time and issues, which again, this a lot of this is to be expected.
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The defense for the most part is the same exact defense it was last year.
34:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Same guys, same scheme they had in the ground running, which is like great to see.
34:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to see that.
34:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to see them put in the ground playing with confidence.
34:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I like low to see that offense.
34:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You got different why I received was Chris a lot of it.
34:58
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just starting to get back in the group because he set up the first couple of days.
35:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, dealing with his contract.
35:04
[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't really involved in the team stuff during the all season.
35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's going to be good to go.
35:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Not worried about him.
35:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He got joined Tyson of working who's just starting to be involved because he wouldn't have involved in those season.
35:17
[SPEAKER_00]: He got two other workies and the rest of you got offensive line, new plans, David Edwards, all that stuff.
35:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's a lot of them who tied the end.
35:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You got this just some eight chain events.
35:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a lot of moving parts that they're still trying to be figured out.
35:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, killing more is only installed like 50% of his offense.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: He's installing new stuff because he's tweaked and changed some of the stuff that he's doing.
35:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So, them being behind is not like a cause for concern.
35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: But...
35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it's not nothing, it's not a concern, but it's not nothing.
35:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
35:53
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, you take a lot of high light out and you just kind of, low foot, no.
35:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Just, just something to keep track of because we got to remember, this is the team who was the worst in the league in first quarter offense.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: was sloppy, sloppy, all last all season on offense, even when ships there, a lot of the details and the final things, they weren't very good at throughout our last season.
36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I just don't want to hear that, oh whether it's just behind because, you know, they got a lot of move points.
36:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's valid, but they also have a track record of,
36:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, not being good.
36:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And remember, most of the last season they were horrible in the red zone, you know what I'm saying?
36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So, all of these things, you still got to keep track of.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm not saying it'd be concerned about it, but just watch it.
36:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to see that it trends better over these next couple of weeks as we go to Trenica.
36:51
[SPEAKER_01]: and training camp, but like, I'm gonna be very fascinated, very fascinated to see how the defense too, because like, the defense on those joint practices, they got a cowboy strong practice, they got a jagged joint practice, they got a ramged joint practice.
37:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the defense may be looking good against an uping, coming off his, but how are you gonna look against,
37:15
[SPEAKER_01]: CDLAM, George Vickins, Liam Cohen, who was like, you know, voted when the best ten play colors last season in the fell shot to the bay, like, you saw that we saw, like, if you saw that played at DeVintia, and I'm sketching it, that touchdown, just imagine of going against Kool-E, bro, Kool-E, they're going to be a face, bro, you know, you, you know, I don't that shit, how that shit going to be, bro, going to be all over RAM social media, shit, bro.
37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if that's the, I wonder if that's why they closed the Rams practice like the Rams.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's, that's, that's close.
37:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of holes.
37:50
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the holes?
37:50
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the holes now?
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: What's Tyler Gary said?
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if I'm going to be at Camp tomorrow.
37:58
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38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you are an off-engine now, you can't corresponded.
38:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I do write that has up y'all be a added and open practice at Tulane for the August 26th, the tickets just went up on the site.
38:19
[SPEAKER_01]: What day is that?
38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: 26.
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: 26.
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a win.
38:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a win today.
38:25
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38:25
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38:27
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38:28
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38:29
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38:30
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38:31
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38:32
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38:33
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38:33
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great.
38:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a great vibe.
38:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Right in the morning in the middle of the week just my daughter was going to hate this because she made me take the shirt off yesterday, but if you've seen Spiderman brand new day got a got this made a couple of years ago, I like that yeah, I put it on the words of movies last night and she was like she literally was like in console the world she's like, you don't have any other shirt to wear.
39:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, Spiderman move, what Spiderman is next.
39:06
[SPEAKER_01]: What was this for?
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Embarrassed, I don't know what it meant.
39:08
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39:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed it much better the second time than to watch the first time I also think because I watched it the first time it was like 10 30 in the movie start I was like 11 pm.
39:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like it was a very long movie and yesterday last night I watched it I was like yeah it was long it's two hours and 30 minutes but it's like it didn't feel as long.
39:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And regardless of that, anything else, if you just talk about just a couple of things as we are, but when we actually get into that, let's take our last break of the show, I'll come back talk about some couple of things just regarding a shock, maybe some Wrathler talk as we wrap up, as we are catching up to all St. Straining Camp action.
40:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And we are gonna be back either, maybe Friday or maybe Saturday morning because they have like a string of padded practices starting tomorrow.
40:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll get you, get y'all all caught up with those,
40:18
[SPEAKER_01]: right back after our final break after this.
40:25
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40:33
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40:37
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41:04
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are a Saints fan and at night time, you're thinking about Marcus Williams missing that tackle.
41:08
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41:09
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41:10
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41:20
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41:24
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41:24
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41:32
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41:33
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41:36
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[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate you all joining us late on the Tuesday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost a natural pacific time and close to 11 p.m. Central Tom, let me just check it up on the chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our dude Scottie said, hi, y'all feel about the national media attention we're starting to get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk about the joining.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a part me that hates it, but there's another part
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to go out and win it like you know what I mean like if you're gonna be good Then you got to go out and win like it's just part of Part of it Just back off a little bit though Let us lay on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just build him right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We doing nothing new.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry Let us build a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We win shit Yeah, but it's this all it's been shepter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been why
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[SPEAKER_01]: only you two people and obviously me no on on her the NFC South previous she did with Greg so I'm a great great great still like Greg on Greg, bro yeah but I to his point which I think like and I get it I understand his point is just like the barriers in the boom and bus potential this team is
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[SPEAKER_01]: And people might get in the midget or make in the comments and say like I'm being hyperbolic, it could be as bad as like number one overall pick bad or it could be Well, I go a wild card team and playing a home game, you know, hosting a home game because they won the NFC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like that really is the variance with this Really is man Number one of one of them one overall picked that being absolutely disaster habits to support.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless Chuck looked fantastic and like I don't know like to just the defense is just like just so historically bad like the defenses like the bingles of Last season, you know, I mean like it got it that's the way where you can kind of be like it's bad, but like if Chuck goes out and he's putting up 25 30 points 35 points offense looking good and there's the defenses looks like as
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[SPEAKER_01]: then it looks like it's bad about the number of raw pictures that look as bad because then the quarterback class for next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, you could turn that over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look to something nasty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, something ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, that's just the optimistic of me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it all centers on the chuck and I just want to
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yesterday was the reports, you know, kind of just came out yet as best kind of consistent practice, just in terms of, you know, just his completion, especially like in teams, like you alluded to earlier, he was going to trickle in the ball down the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The offense had a bit more rhythm into it and how they were moving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's something about him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you said it in our discord, and you didn't just say this in the discord about him, this is, and you said it about him last season as well, it's like, he just might not, and I'm not saying he's not good in private, but maybe he's just not a practice player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he might just be one of those gamers like when the lights are on, and brightest, something just clicks for him, and he does what he needs to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw it last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because, you know, he had a lot of struggles in practice last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the preseason, remember the first preseason game, it was like conspiracy theories like, it's kind of more called in different plays with Chuck and all that stuff, because it was like, hey, he's looking pretty solid in these preseason games, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Compared to what we had heard so far, like we're trying to camp and all the struggles he had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, when you get into regular season, it's like, oh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: do complete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, this training camp has struggles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dan, you get the pads on and he's like, oh, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has to feel the danger a little more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also wonder if, and I think this is a killing thing and also maybe a chuck thing too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they got to get better on this because it just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when they get past the script, whatever the fucking script is, when Kelly's just calling plays and shuck is just taking in those, it seems like the offense just operates better when it's just call it no offensive coaches calling their plays, whether they're the heck coach or the office coordinator, the first 15, the first 20 are always scripted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just how they run it, but for whatever reason,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like when Kelly gets out of those 15 out of those 20s, he just calling it the offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even when Chuck wasn't the court, but even with all like that, when like Rackler was going back, it just the offense seemed to get better and do better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So not to say that's like, not a negative, they, they got a home that in about it improved that for those first script, so that can lead to more sustained offense and putting points on the board early in games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, I don't know what killing, like, like, I don't know, you got to bring somebody in, help you out with the scripting and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, a lot of coaches use the script as like information gathering, but you should also see like moving the ball, like, yeah, like something to that to be, but if we'll gather with this script, but also like move the ball and like we'll get a touchdown or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you would like to see that, but yeah, it was just good to see Chuck have a good day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I wasn't worried about it but nothing like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, because like you if you watch like shout out the book because they'll put out like these long form videos of practice and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to sit back and really watch those and Chuck is doing a lot at the line of skirmish love man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he is doing a lot of calls, a lot of protections and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has more on his plate this year obviously and that's a learning curve like that it is that that like just as extra land stuff that he has to come up with so it's fascinating to see how he how he deals with that
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[SPEAKER_00]: gone into this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was promising to see him ever ever good day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just want to see him kind of stack more as the players get tuned what they want to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mention earlier like the tight ends, they've been thrown to the tight ends a ton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of them like, John, my Scotto, my Voodoo, Scotto.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, we joke about it, but he's like making plays out there,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically what I heard was like, if you took, if you put like, help, name on his jersey, everybody would be talking about him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like nobody's talking about him because it's like okay, he was like late, you know, several outpicked from the back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So nobody's ready to worry about him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's like, make your plane time about like a six, six, seven, six, eight, being, they got hooked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't make him plays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, indeed, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, all the fans, he's making the plays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're making plays too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like he's not, but you know, he's still learning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just the fact that you just see that from the tight imposition is good to hear because.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They carry a four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think they might carry four, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but it depends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It goes back today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why was he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or how many why was he because they carry?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How many offensive linemen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be fascinating, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I like Palmer retiring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hope like is like a black on the lesson in the curse because it's like, it's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This Nick is said, this Nick is said, Palmer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't even know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still have you have to sleep home with like, like, like, no, to sleep, to see exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually did see him, like, you know, one of ones, and he didn't, like, he went in good, and it went in one of ones or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so a lot of they Tyson, Belly, Brown, Lance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bro, with the five, now if they carry six in the beginning of the season last year, maybe they go six and you throw a palm on there or you throw, well, Kevin, I don't know, you know, but that's the five right there to me, that's the five you roll, yeah, and figure that figure out the red you carry four tight ends, are you good, you know, are you rolling the gas, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be saying how I'm guessing how the rest of our sons do doing the Date say he's in RB whoop, a brock, a racer, the racer, he actually got a couple of snaps with the ones on the pack of padded praises, like two snaps, yeah, it was like oh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I haven't heard anything about him like doing anything really crazy in camp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one positive thing about this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, preseason should be a little more interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir, because like, because once you get to like their third quarter, they're still going to be some guys to like watch watching pay attention to, you know, Jeremiah Wright, Steiner, Barry Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you get a lot of snaps late in the preseason game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could tell but a lot of those guys are going to be getting snaps and it was preseason games and on defense Jane Price styles all those guys You get to watch them and see it really a value with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know I'm saying of course the Miller Christian Miller.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's another one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot the mention he's been getting some good snaps burning brought now I was trying to watch him Me move moving pretty well, but you know
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[SPEAKER_00]: Preseason's gonna be real, real, real interesting for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like, I'm gonna be a lot of attention of a big 91.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Vernon Brown just kind of feels like main girls, whereas it's like, stop trying to make Fetchappen, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not a knock on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the team told you so much last season when he was an active week one as a rookie as a third round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not to say that players can't give a better cannon prove.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for the sake of the defense of the defense of the line, like he like it's crucial.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted it all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they wanted it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's telling you it's pivotal because they put them with the ones like nigga, we need you to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you got you guys show out in the preseason and we haven't seen anything from was it's a zabian Harris who's a believe it's a pop still up up so he's gonna pop just catching up with the chat dock underscore 54 said it's gonna be nice to see a multifaceted offensive game has tag more layers yes more layers baby Scotty said be able to go
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[SPEAKER_01]: from that UFL stuff price.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was picking things off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then our do wax Chris at no love for TJ Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Conner said that the quality of the roster turned around quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they just want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to mention
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sanker got up some snaps, you know, in the 101's, it was interesting to see him like a man a man like I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What, you know, we'll see, you know, as it goes along, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: one-on-one, they have to end all be all, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just one little thing, but it was just interesting to see because I was wanting to see, like, how is he going to do it in those man-of-band stuff?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I know he could put his foot in the ground and like hit and like, you know, running chase and stuff like that, but I really interested to see how he does covering, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the cost of out there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying that they should, uh, Kenny Moore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he still is still out there, isn't he?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's still out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A little underrated thing as we kind of wrap this up is seems like Quincy Riley is I don't want to say he's taking a step but like just playing well a really good like tech like just a technician and his corner play and he may sound like like just what I've cleaned seems like he may be a little higher thought of than Martin Emerson right now that that opposite corner spot
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could see that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Riley's playing well, man, like he's always around the ball and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The linebacker, the linebacker, I have been mixing it up with the ones that have been interesting, because you'll see Ellis and weren't on the field, but then they saw Ben Stuttman and have all three of them want to field, and they'll have Ellis, like, you know, in past Russian, Blitz and the A gap or just
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Stanley, Stanley cooking something up Brown, like this is going to be interesting to see how they use a lot of backers, but I think you can see all three of them want to feel it actually quite a bit, which would be fascinating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It will be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last thing I think I had is it was something he didn't do well last season, but I want to see as training camp goes on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was off during games and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's just something as as training camp progresses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to see those deep shots just connect a little more, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was missing from the offense last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't even get you like a good reason why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the ES, the arm, the ES, the accuracy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like you got to tighten it up, bro, whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we just wanted to come back, you know, we couldn't really talk about trading camping and depth with me on yesterdays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we wanted to come back and just hit on that colon, nope, say, Rattler hidden that deep ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is so it's football's funny, man, because like last year, Rattler, his, like, he was like off like in the timing of his deep balls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then like shut comes in and he like the Crystal Lobby play against the Panthers and the Crystal Lobby play against like the Titans football's just Again, it could be just wouldn't it just you know, it's game time and and truck, but I will say this like The whole jack will something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bro Over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm over over And I was and this is not and this is not like an agenda thing if you're the saints
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you get a really, really like something that just blows you away, like, hold on to rather just makes the most fobalset because you have Chuck East.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is injury history in the past and what things like that were like, if you're trying to compete for a playoff spot and win the division, you gotta have a quality back up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God, I have a quality back up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that I know like the easy thing is like just just trade him because I've been that okay trade him then who's like the back of going to be a shuck it has to miss the week or two or whatever yeah I mean it is one of the best things to have it's like a good back up man and you never know like he might suck make it like there's the game last year you got hitting the back and yet like a big
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[SPEAKER_00]: like a big thing on his back or whatever he's talked about like some kind of huge bruises that they had to patch up the stuff like you could imagine if that was worse you know I'm saying that he had to sit out of game but to you know I'm saying when you got somebody like relish it's just like cool all right get out there you know I'm saying you know he could run off and you know he can handle things yes I know he didn't win games for the Saints but we know there's reasons for that but you know you got to
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[SPEAKER_00]: run the offense, just try it, just like shit can, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So to me, you hold on to that as long as you can unless you just get off a wedge, just like, okay, we got, all right, we got it, we got to catch that in like, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think I don't think they're going to get off from like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but anyway, again, we just wanted to come talk about training camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like, like I just said, like a slew of days of coming, where's a lot of padded practices in a row.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be fun to see how it all plays out on those good social media clips.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just that that's that happy feeling from from training camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scottie said, I would love to see Rattler with these weapons too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if if needed, I would say like if if called upon It's called it called like I'm so ran lad and happy with very brown you're like oh Oh
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