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- 0:06Speaker 1: Gensler going under fire from his fellow commissioners. We'll break
- 0:08Speaker 1: all that down for you guys today. You don't want
- 0:10Speaker 1: to miss that. The impact on elections and crypto is happening.
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- 0:34Speaker 1: things today. I want to hit on what is happening
- 0:37Speaker 1: in the election around crypto voters. Of course you have
- 0:40Speaker 1: to look at polymarket, the one place where it is
- 0:44Speaker 1: driven off. Of course, Polygon a crypto platform out there.
- 0:48Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting how so many of mainstream media
- 0:50Speaker 1: is using this. But the key here is Trump is
- 0:53Speaker 1: now starting to edge outside the area of potential, you know, accuracy.
- 1:00Speaker 1: I think this scenario is going to play out not
- 1:02Speaker 1: good for Kamala Harris. I want to go to a
- 1:03Speaker 1: clip here with Tyt. This is Shank Kyueger. He's talking
- 1:07Speaker 1: about this very thing, and he's talking about poly markets.
- 1:09Speaker 2: So take a look.
- 1:10Speaker 3: But the reality is people are putting their money behind this.
- 1:13Speaker 3: So it's not like just knuckleheads going, oh, what's the
- 1:16Speaker 3: big deal. No, they're putting their money where their mouth is.
- 1:19Speaker 3: It's been right on a lot of things, and the
- 1:22Speaker 3: thing that it was most right about was Tim Walls.
- 1:24Speaker 3: And when I see something pretty, something better than I do,
- 1:27Speaker 3: I go, WHOA. Remember, everybody's in their bubble, and this
- 1:31Speaker 3: gives you the whole national bubble. And it's not rocket science.
- 1:34Speaker 3: You offer the average American things that they need and
- 1:38Speaker 3: things that they want. So when I saw that they
- 1:40Speaker 3: weren't doing the fundamentals right, I said, oh, now she's
- 1:43Speaker 3: going to lose the lead.
- 1:44Speaker 1: And she has the idea is everything that the Biden
- 1:48Speaker 1: administration is enforced, we're going to continue to see that
- 1:51Speaker 1: she isn't really implementing any different viewpoint or any change.
- 1:54Speaker 1: And of course, to Chenk's topic is that poly market
- 1:57Speaker 1: is sniffing this out right now. Holding in the fifty
- 2:00Speaker 1: four point four versus forty five point two, this has
- 2:03Speaker 1: been climbing pretty aggressively year, as you can kind of see.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Let me kind of zoom in on that for you
- 2:07Speaker 1: guys right there, you see the movement really that happened
- 2:10Speaker 1: around the fourth of October, and the split started to
- 2:14Speaker 1: occur over the past several days. So I want to
- 2:17Speaker 1: get to the tweet real quickly. This is on XRP,
- 2:20Speaker 1: and of course there's been so much activity within the
- 2:23Speaker 1: XRP community and a lot of the major capital behind
- 2:27Speaker 1: XRP trying to make this XRP ETF happen. And here's
- 2:31Speaker 1: just kind of a line list of things that are
- 2:33Speaker 1: going bit wise, Canary Capital, the swell event, all of
- 2:36Speaker 1: that's going to be happening around an XRP ETF. Now,
- 2:40Speaker 1: with that being said, while this is happening, you have,
- 2:44Speaker 1: of course the SEC still putting pressure on the industry
- 2:47Speaker 1: with Crypto dot Com. Of course, Crypto dot Com now
- 2:50Speaker 1: coming back in a cross file on a lawsuit against
- 2:52Speaker 1: the SEC. And I think this is only hurting the
- 2:55Speaker 1: Harris campaign in a big way because it shows government's
- 2:58Speaker 1: overreach problem that they've had for quiet sometime. This next
- 3:01Speaker 1: clip I want to go to. We'll get into some
- 3:03Speaker 1: detail and the detail is going around where Mark youu Ada?
- 3:07Speaker 1: Remember Mark you Ada, one of the commissioners at the
- 3:10Speaker 1: SEC right now, very pro crypto in case you guys
- 3:14Speaker 1: are brand new to that. Listen to what he said
- 3:16Speaker 1: on National TV.
- 3:17Speaker 4: But Crypto dot com is accusing the SEC of overstepping
- 3:20Speaker 4: its jurisdiction. Trying to me right now, is SEC Commissioner
- 3:23Speaker 4: Mark Uada? What is the SEC doing regarding crypto?
- 3:27Speaker 5: Our policies and our approach the last several years have
- 3:30Speaker 5: been just really a disaster for the whole industry. We've
- 3:34Speaker 5: done nothing to provide guidance on it. I think what
- 3:38Speaker 5: this wells noticed is and well, I won't comment on
- 3:40Speaker 5: the specifics of this litigation. What has gone on as
- 3:44Speaker 5: part of a broader frustration with the fact that we
- 3:47Speaker 5: have not provided interpretive guidance as to what you can
- 3:50Speaker 5: and cannot do. How you get regulator as a broker dealer,
- 3:53Speaker 5: how you get ready to exchange?
- 3:55Speaker 2: And I'm stunned and thrilled.
- 3:57Speaker 4: Mark, dear you say this an SEC commissioner, do you
- 4:00Speaker 4: feel within the organization that there has actually been overreach?
- 4:04Speaker 5: Well, as you say, I want to five commissions, so
- 4:06Speaker 5: I only get one vote and oftentimes I find myself
- 4:09Speaker 5: outvoted on these issues with my colleagues. You know, I
- 4:12Speaker 5: think within the agency, our agenda is directed by the Chairman,
- 4:17Speaker 5: Gary Gensler, and so the staff all follows his lead.
- 4:22Speaker 5: You know. The joke we have is we have about
- 4:24Speaker 5: five thousand ployets at the SEC. He controls four hundred,
- 4:27Speaker 5: four thousand, nine hundred ninety five.
- 4:29Speaker 2: I control five.
- 4:30Speaker 4: Wow, So so is that I mean, what's his motivation is?
- 4:34Speaker 5: You know, I won't speak for what Gary thinks as
- 4:37Speaker 5: his personal motivations are. He certainly has a perspective the
- 4:41Speaker 5: way I look at I've been with the agency for
- 4:43Speaker 5: eighteen years, done a lot of things involving regulation of securities,
- 4:47Speaker 5: and the approach work taking seems to be the wrong one.
- 4:50Speaker 4: Isn't that you speaking?
- 4:53Speaker 2: Oh my god, God bless you. Mark?
- 4:55Speaker 5: Well?
- 4:55Speaker 1: This is interesting because for him to do this on
- 4:57Speaker 1: national TV, even though it was Fox. I mean point
- 5:00Speaker 1: was is that the scenario might be shifting underneath Gesler
- 5:04Speaker 1: in terms of a position for the SEC itself. Now,
- 5:08Speaker 1: remember the SEC on Friday dropped this bomb and that
- 5:11Speaker 1: wassuing crypto marketmaker Cumberland DRW. I think this just goes
- 5:16Speaker 1: in alignment with what Mark you Ada was saying is
- 5:19Speaker 1: that they've taken the wrong approach around this. He knows
- 5:21Speaker 1: that DRW came in Cumberland, came in to register and
- 5:26Speaker 1: what the SEC simply said was, yeah, you can do everything,
- 5:29Speaker 1: but you can only do the bitcoin and Eth scenario,
- 5:32Speaker 1: even though Eth was not necessarily deemed a security at
- 5:36Speaker 1: the time. So the amount of side stepping and you know,
- 5:42Speaker 1: basically indecisiveness coming in out of the SEC, I think
- 5:45Speaker 1: is what Metalawman is hitting on. So the good thing
- 5:49Speaker 1: is is they're going right at them, so on a
- 5:51Speaker 1: counter suit, so that'll that'll be I think a good thing.
- 5:53Speaker 1: And that's the point is everybody's fighting back now, a
- 5:55Speaker 1: lot of people fighting back. You've got coin, crypto, dot
- 5:59Speaker 1: com now d all fighting back. I think this is
- 6:02Speaker 1: a big one for sure. Stuart Alderatti, who of course
- 6:05Speaker 1: has been at the forefront of this. Importantly, the SEC
- 6:08Speaker 1: already said they're not appealing the routing on XRP itself,
- 6:11Speaker 1: that it isn't a security, So that's done. They apologize
- 6:15Speaker 1: in the other case suggesting the token it self could
- 6:17Speaker 1: be a security. That's the law and the appeal on
- 6:19Speaker 1: these other issues doesn't really change it. So even if
- 6:21Speaker 1: they were to win the appeal, which unlikely that they will,
- 6:24Speaker 1: on the other scenarios, the fact that XRP is not
- 6:28Speaker 1: a security is still going to be the case. So
- 6:30Speaker 1: when you look at the XRP situation, they're now coming after,
- 6:33Speaker 1: Butnomial all based on the XRP futures contract, so again
- 6:37Speaker 1: they've also countersued. So the amount of lawfare that seems
- 6:42Speaker 1: to be going on right now with especially around XRP,
- 6:46Speaker 1: but even more importantly is the acceleration into crypto with
- 6:51Speaker 1: what's happening right now with the election, is mind boggling
- 6:54Speaker 1: to me because it really does put I think the
- 6:58Speaker 1: Harris campaign in a bad position here versus Bitnomial talking
- 7:01Speaker 1: about their going in and suing the SRC are SEC
- 7:04Speaker 1: over the XRP future situation, and they just challenge it, Hey,
- 7:08Speaker 1: XARP is already a security, You've already admitted that, we've
- 7:11Speaker 1: already had a ruling on this. Why are we doing
- 7:13Speaker 1: and going throughout these scenarios. I want to get into
- 7:16Speaker 1: two back to back clips here, and these clips will
- 7:18Speaker 1: go into a little bit more detail on where Yuada
- 7:22Speaker 1: thinks the future of the SEC should be going take
- 7:25Speaker 1: a look look.
- 7:26Speaker 4: Politico is reporting that robin Hood's chief legal officer, Dan Gallagher,
- 7:31Speaker 4: is emerging as a leading contender to head these Scruities
- 7:33Speaker 4: and Exchange Commission if former President Donald Trump is reelection
- 7:37Speaker 4: re elected. Gallagher is also a former SEC commissioner. Do
- 7:40Speaker 4: you believe that a Dan Gallagher or someone like that
- 7:43Speaker 4: would change the direction?
- 7:45Speaker 5: I've been fortunate to knowe Dan for nearly twenty years.
- 7:48Speaker 5: He certainly has a lot of experience in this area
- 7:50Speaker 5: as a former commissioner, and now what he's been doing
- 7:52Speaker 5: at Robinhood, he knows firsthand exactly the challenges of someone
- 7:57Speaker 5: who's trying to operate within our rules and what happens
- 8:01Speaker 5: when it's really unclear where the lines are on those rules.
- 8:05Speaker 5: He testified a couple of weeks in Congress. I think
- 8:07Speaker 5: you did a really good job of explaining just how
- 8:10Speaker 5: frustrating it has been to deal with the SEC for
- 8:12Speaker 5: the past several years.
- 8:14Speaker 1: You ate it is exactly right. Is his position is
- 8:17Speaker 1: unique because he's been on the other side to see
- 8:19Speaker 1: what is the problem and how can they solve that?
- 8:22Speaker 1: So that would be a good thing. Now here's Mark Cuban.
- 8:25Speaker 1: He basically says the same thing, but in a little
- 8:28Speaker 1: different way.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Take a look.
- 8:30Speaker 3: You think Gary Gensler routinees this title regardless of who
- 8:33Speaker 3: wins on the in November.
- 8:34Speaker 6: So you've got millions of primarily men whose entire future
- 8:38Speaker 6: in their mind and in their net worth is tied
- 8:41Speaker 6: up in an app and Gary Gensler is saying fuck
- 8:44Speaker 6: you to each and every one of them individually. He gone,
- 8:47Speaker 6: he gone, he donated the Mavericks, he gone.
- 8:51Speaker 1: All right, So if you look at it, that was
- 8:52Speaker 1: a scary face by Cuban there. If you think about
- 8:56Speaker 1: how long before we get a new potential missioner, well
- 9:00Speaker 1: you got six hundred and one days for his current tenure.
- 9:03Speaker 1: But I think it bears down more to this day
- 9:07Speaker 1: right here, which of course is when the election in
- 9:09Speaker 1: twenty five days, maybe eleven. Maybe that's the real counter
- 9:13Speaker 1: going forward. So we'll see how all plays out here,
- 9:16Speaker 1: that's for sure, all right. I want to go to
- 9:18Speaker 1: another clip. Here's metal law man talking about what is
- 9:20Speaker 1: this chances of getting fired this year or next?
- 9:23Speaker 2: Take a look two We could see one and two things. One,
- 9:26Speaker 2: Gary Gensler resigns or is fired and is replaced by
- 9:30Speaker 2: somebody who is not looking to kill crypto, and they
- 9:36Speaker 2: want no part of it. They're going to do what's right,
- 9:38Speaker 2: and what's right would probably be to settle or dismiss
- 9:42Speaker 2: these cases. You know, it's silly to ask judges to
- 9:47Speaker 2: make these decisions when there's already legislation percolating that would
- 9:52Speaker 2: say the SEC does not have authority over this industry.
- 9:57Speaker 2: You know, a number of things could happen, and I
- 9:59Speaker 2: think there's probably better than a fifty percent chance that
- 10:03Speaker 2: something happens to change the dynamics such that we could
- 10:07Speaker 2: see these cases come to a close before the first
- 10:11Speaker 2: quarter twenty six.
- 10:13Speaker 1: All right, So cases coming to a close before twenty
- 10:17Speaker 1: six can only mean that the likelihood of a new
- 10:20Speaker 1: commissioner would be in play or a regulatory framework would
- 10:24Speaker 1: be in play, which either would be a good position
- 10:27Speaker 1: for crypto in general. There's another point that is playing
- 10:30Speaker 1: out right now, and that is the Senate races and
- 10:33Speaker 1: the importance of these races. Here's a clip by the
- 10:36Speaker 1: Blockchain Association's president CHRISTA Smith talking about this.
- 10:40Speaker 7: Take a look, is that one in five voters in
- 10:46Speaker 7: swing states, and all of you represent Swing states, considers
- 10:51Speaker 7: cryptocurrency an important issue. But we also have two really
- 10:54Speaker 7: big enemies, and that is Gary Gensler and Elizabeth Warren.
- 10:58Speaker 7: It is very clear that if the report Republicans control
- 11:00Speaker 7: the Senate, we will be clear to never get people
- 11:04Speaker 7: like Gary Gensler elected the SEC ever again. And we'll
- 11:07Speaker 7: also diminish Elizabeth Warren's ability to influence the Senate Banking
- 11:12Speaker 7: Committee agenda. So I think you know of the presidential election,
- 11:16Speaker 7: the House elections, and the Senate elections, the Senate elections
- 11:19Speaker 7: are uniquely important.
- 11:21Speaker 8: Do the race very quickly.
- 11:23Speaker 7: We just had a poll come out last week. I'm
- 11:24Speaker 7: five points ahead of my opponent.
- 11:26Speaker 8: Got the Farm Bureau endorsement for really, I'm over thirty years.
- 11:30Speaker 2: I know that was going to get you out of
- 11:31Speaker 2: your chairs.
- 11:32Speaker 8: I see that, I see how excited you were.
- 11:33Speaker 7: We love commodities. What's a crypto joke?
- 11:36Speaker 8: Nobody got it. Built fifteen dealerships over ten years, sold
- 11:41Speaker 8: those to start my blockchain company. As we went to
- 11:44Speaker 8: state governments and said, let us get rid of your
- 11:46Speaker 8: legacy systems, let us build you a blockchain based digital
- 11:51Speaker 8: titling system that uses blockchain to keep track of car ownership.
- 11:55Speaker 8: We're now in nine states. About a year and a
- 11:58Speaker 8: half ago I made the tough decision to run for Senate,
- 12:01Speaker 8: and I'm running for one simple reason. Look, my opponent
- 12:05Speaker 8: is Sharon Brown. He's not Elizabeth Warren, but he's Elizabeth
- 12:08Speaker 8: Warren's henchman. He's actually the chairman of the Banking Committee.
- 12:12Speaker 8: Take a football, throw it into the stadium, and whoever
- 12:15Speaker 8: caught that ball is more qualified to regulate crypto than
- 12:18Speaker 8: Sharon Brown. This guy has no idea. He's been an
- 12:22Speaker 8: elected office for fifty years, never had a job in
- 12:27Speaker 8: the private sector ever, and we put him in charge
- 12:29Speaker 8: of the United States banking system. What could go wrong?
- 12:32Speaker 8: My wife has made it clear that she's with me
- 12:34Speaker 8: for two terms or a third term is with a
- 12:37Speaker 8: second wife. I've been married for thirty five years, so
- 12:40Speaker 8: this is two terms.
- 12:42Speaker 9: I like it.
- 12:42Speaker 1: I like this guy's attitude too. I mean, he's These
- 12:45Speaker 1: are kind of people we need in our regulatory framework
- 12:49Speaker 1: in DC. Problem is that you have people like guess
- 12:53Speaker 1: who the leader of the anti crypto army, and that
- 12:56Speaker 1: is Elizabeth Warren, who, by the way, is going head
- 12:58Speaker 1: to head with our I think the industry's hero are
- 13:02Speaker 1: one of them, and that is mister John Deaton, who
- 13:04Speaker 1: is going head to head in a debate coming up
- 13:07Speaker 1: this week, so be on the lookout for a pretty
- 13:10Speaker 1: heated debate. I'm going to be watching this one very closely.
- 13:12Speaker 1: We might get a Hail Mary here to displace Senator Warren,
- 13:15Speaker 1: but we'll see how that one plays out. Don't forget
- 13:18Speaker 1: stand with crypto heating up. They are going out with
- 13:22Speaker 1: early voting, you know what to do. And the way
- 13:24Speaker 1: that they're doing is that they're doing it with a
- 13:26Speaker 1: bus that they're coming around with. And this is the
- 13:28Speaker 1: cool thing. It's kind of in conjunction with chainsmokers with
- 13:31Speaker 1: this purple bus. Great bus by the way, But the
- 13:34Speaker 1: key here is it's educating a lot of Americans on
- 13:37Speaker 1: what crypto, blockchain and this industry digital assets are really
- 13:40Speaker 1: doing for a lot of people who are just trying
- 13:43Speaker 1: to level up their lives. So that's the good thing.
- 13:45Speaker 1: The coinbase is trying to get to. Very cool. Good
- 13:47Speaker 1: job there. On the other hand, you've got mister Genesler
- 13:50Speaker 1: going out to NYU and saying, hey, nope, there's still
- 13:54Speaker 1: a lot of bad actors. There's still this fraught problem
- 13:57Speaker 1: with fraud. You know, all of this is happening, changing
- 14:00Speaker 1: his script at all, and it's kind of interesting when
- 14:03Speaker 1: twenty percent of Americans owner use crypto and tens of
- 14:06Speaker 1: thousands of developers and builders, and we're continuing to lose
- 14:10Speaker 1: innovation a landscape I think here in the US to
- 14:14Speaker 1: a lot of countries, a lot of other regions because
- 14:16Speaker 1: of our actions that we're seeing out of DC and
- 14:19Speaker 1: the SEC. But Guessler's staying true to his form here.
- 14:23Speaker 1: I want to go one more clip here. This is
- 14:25Speaker 1: talking about the Stand with Crypto efforts and the Crypto
- 14:30Speaker 1: Army instead of the anti crypto army.
- 14:32Speaker 9: Listening as investors in this space, do you feel protected
- 14:35Speaker 9: by Gary Gensler? Seriously, who wants to raise a hand
- 14:39Speaker 9: and stand up behind that proposition? Zero people in this
- 14:41Speaker 9: room just raise their hands. It's preposterous. I'm still waiting
- 14:46Speaker 9: to meet members of the anti crypto army. If you're
- 14:48Speaker 9: out there, if you're here, come up to me afterwards.
- 14:51Speaker 9: I'd love to buy a coffee and talk things out.
- 14:53Speaker 9: But instead what I see are one point five million
- 14:56Speaker 9: Americans have now signed up as crypto advocates with Stand
- 14:59Speaker 9: with Crypto. Fifty t million Americans have now bought or
- 15:01Speaker 9: sold a digital asset, give or take, and we're going
- 15:04Speaker 9: to vote and participate in the election in November. Accordingly,
- 15:08Speaker 9: in ways that I think we're going to take people
- 15:10Speaker 9: by surprise.
- 15:11Speaker 1: I would have to agree with that. I think that
- 15:14Speaker 1: the misunderstanding of digital assets crypto by the executive administration
- 15:21Speaker 1: that we have right now is absolutely it's almost unfathomable
- 15:27Speaker 1: because of the fact that we and would be such
- 15:29Speaker 1: an easy opportunity for Harris to really kind of go
- 15:32Speaker 1: in this direction to show change innovation because it does
- 15:36Speaker 1: offer a lot of uniqueness to bringing people in the
- 15:38Speaker 1: middle class up, and I think that has been kind
- 15:41Speaker 1: of one of her positions. So the fact they're missing
- 15:43Speaker 1: this and missing it in a big way is what
- 15:46Speaker 1: is still surprising to me. So anyway, if you guys
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