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Getting right in Week 6 | Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, October 12 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive to with Ashlyn Sulis, John Oceans,
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Speaker 1: and Brian Sexty. Jacks Drive starts right now, Roma getting
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Speaker 1: there for James Robinson the running back play. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: ever looking downfield fires, deep downfield up. I was gonna
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Speaker 1: be thought, Barbara Jones during your course downs whoa whoa
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Speaker 1: running back James Robinson miked up against the Houston Texans.
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Speaker 1: You can check out that full episode on Jaguars dot Com.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday morning, Ashlyn,
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Speaker 1: Brian and John here with you as we get ready
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Speaker 1: for the next game for the Jaguars this Sunday against
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Speaker 1: the Colts on the road, and a lot to talk
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Speaker 1: about if we get ready for that game. But I
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Speaker 1: bring in Brian and John now, and it seems to
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Speaker 1: be that maybe the feeling of the loss has moved past,
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Speaker 1: and Monday was I don't want to say the sulking day,
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Speaker 1: but you have to address that terrible game on Sunday
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Speaker 1: and here's the day. Yeah, we attempt to move on
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Speaker 1: and take a step forward. I haven't seen anybody yet
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Speaker 1: this morning, so I'm not sure if they have, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I will in the next hours
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Speaker 1: you're walking around the hallways. But I think that one's
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Speaker 1: gonna stick a little bit more. I think it's it's
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Speaker 1: one that's going to hang with him a bit. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the team and the coaches, especially the veterans, will move
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Speaker 1: on because that's what the NFL is. I think, honestly,
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Speaker 1: I think it will linger for fans and observers. Uh.
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Speaker 1: As I've written several times since that game, I believe
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Speaker 1: that now in order to get fans feeling like they
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Speaker 1: felt in September, you've got to win a couple well
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Speaker 1: you toltally, gotta make him believe again, and then he
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Speaker 1: got to win more than Sunday. But you gotta start sun.
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Speaker 1: I was filling up with gas the other day and
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Speaker 1: a guy, you know, he just he said, the thing is,
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Speaker 1: I was so ready to get on board with this.
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Speaker 1: I was so ready to believe that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: And that was what it wasn't that they well, it
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Speaker 1: was that they lost. It was how they lost. It
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Speaker 1: was that he was expecting a good game from a
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Speaker 1: team that he had seen play well the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks and they didn't. He was let down, and
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Speaker 1: that was the part that That's the part that stinks
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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, is that we've been talking
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Speaker 1: about a team that's ready to take that next step,
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Speaker 1: maybe had taken that next step. It's tough to believe
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Speaker 1: this morning, to to believe that they're there now. There
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Speaker 1: is an element that that's what the NFL is. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: even good teams do what they did Sunday, but since
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Speaker 1: this team hasn't been good, Yeah there's the sixties. That's
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Speaker 1: hard their fans perspective, that's what was like. So the
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Speaker 1: fact that that they don't get that benefit of the
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Speaker 1: doubt for one bad game when you've had a hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty bad games there after taste from the last
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Speaker 1: couple of years. So now you've got to prove it
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Speaker 1: double to a fan base that wants to believe. It's
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Speaker 1: almost that feeling of too good to be true. And truthfully,
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Speaker 1: that game against the Charges and everyone's flying back home happy.
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Speaker 1: There were fans that said, this is awesome, but is
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Speaker 1: this for real? And I think Sunday might have proved Okay,
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Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't for real and maybe they're not consistent yet,
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Speaker 1: and yeah, that stinks. It's almost like a breakup. It's
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Speaker 1: like you thought this was it and this isn't it now. No,
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Speaker 1: I'm really thinking about it late. La. Let's we'll talk
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Speaker 1: after the show. Okay, thanks for the advice. Let's all right,
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Speaker 1: let's get into big things. Big thing one is give
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Speaker 1: him time. The freak out is here for quarterback Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence and all the fans perspective saying he's not ready
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Speaker 1: and he's not the franchise quarterback. Well, he played lights
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Speaker 1: out week two and week three. Hasn't played good the
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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, like most young quarterbacks. Coach Peterson said,
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Speaker 1: take a breath to get there. You're Jalen Hurts great example.
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Speaker 1: Last year. You know, he's got a new head coach,
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Speaker 1: he's got a new coordinator. You know. Um, yes, they
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Speaker 1: made the postseason and he probably went through some growing
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Speaker 1: pains last year. Now second season, the same head coach,
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Speaker 1: same coordinator, played caller, the whole thing. Add some more
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Speaker 1: pieces around it, have consistency, things thrive. You look at
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Speaker 1: the Bengals young quarterback, things or things thrive, you know,
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Speaker 1: and you look at you look at the Chargers. You
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Speaker 1: can take a young quarterback. Put the pieces around. Here's
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Speaker 1: consistency things thrive. So it's a model, you know, for
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Speaker 1: for success in this league. Um, you know, and and
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Speaker 1: and it's just it's just where we are at the time.
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Speaker 1: But but I know that with time, you know, we'll
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Speaker 1: we'll be there, you know, with those teams. And I
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Speaker 1: interrupted Slynn's floyd a little bit here, but I ain
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Speaker 1: it's important to note that's not the first time he
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Speaker 1: said this. Uh, he knew this was coming. Uh, he
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Speaker 1: knows young quarterbacks, he knew Trevor Lawrence. That's probably the
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Speaker 1: third or fourth time publicly that he's hit that theme
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Speaker 1: with Trevor. He brought it back out this time. But
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Speaker 1: let's not you know, I fan saying, well, he's just
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Speaker 1: saying that this is the process that he knew was coming.
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Speaker 1: And so I believe that Doug Peterson knows where the
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Speaker 1: growth will be. Yeah. Still go back to the week
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Speaker 1: after the Commander's loss, and I started a question to
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Speaker 1: him on Friday, said, do we all have two great expectations?
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Speaker 1: He started nodding before even said for Trevor Lawrence a child,
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Speaker 1: you know, he knew, he knew exactly where it was going.
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Speaker 1: So and he John, he and I've had that conversation.
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Speaker 1: He knew coming into this year that he was going
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Speaker 1: to have to tamp those down. This was a kid that,
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Speaker 1: even though he had incredible upward potential, she had so
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Speaker 1: far to go based on what happened last year. Uh
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Speaker 1: and just the normal growth curve for quarterbacks. And that
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Speaker 1: brings us into big thing too, which is wait, why
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Speaker 1: I don't want to wait? I want this team to
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Speaker 1: win right now. We saw it weeks two and week three.
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Speaker 1: Why can't they keep it up? Well, we just talked
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Speaker 1: about that young quarterback and this young team, this young roster.
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be an up and down season. So
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Speaker 1: buckle up. Do I think we can you know, have
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Speaker 1: an opportunity this year to take advantage of some situations
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Speaker 1: and get better as a team. I do, and and
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Speaker 1: the team believes that, you know. But but there's a
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Speaker 1: process here, and a lot of times people don't want
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Speaker 1: to nobody wants to wait anymore. You know, there's there's
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Speaker 1: always you know, it's now, you know, and I get that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a it's a win now mental
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Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's it's our job to to
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Speaker 1: try to speed that up the best we can. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, through practice, through prep and and just through
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Speaker 1: teaching and finally a Big Thing three is respond looking
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Speaker 1: forward to Sunday's game against the Colts. This will be
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Speaker 1: a big game as the Jaguars look to sweep the
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Speaker 1: Colts for the first time since two thousand and fourteen.
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Speaker 1: But all eyes will be on the Jaguars and if
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Speaker 1: they can get back to a winning way after two
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Speaker 1: very disappointing weeks. It's all about watching that film, moving
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Speaker 1: on and um and growing from that game because there's
6:33
Speaker 1: we we left a lot of yards out there last
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Speaker 1: game too, So just doing our job and not trying
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Speaker 1: to do, you know, do too much. Just focus on
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Speaker 1: what you can do and can control you can control.
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Speaker 1: And Big Thing one and Big Things too are similar
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Speaker 1: and they're both about taking a breath, and they're both
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Speaker 1: about patients. And no one wants to hear that. We
6:49
Speaker 1: don't want to hear that, we don't want to talk
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Speaker 1: about it. But when you talk about this young quarterback,
6:53
Speaker 1: when you talk about this young team, yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: gonna take some time. There's gonna be some ups and downs.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna go beat someone they're not supposed to be
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Speaker 1: this year. They're gonna lose two teams they're supposed to
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Speaker 1: win this year. That's just seems to be the theme
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Speaker 1: of the season. When my mother used to get mad
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Speaker 1: at me when I was a kid, which happened sometimes, Brian,
7:08
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. She would go on and on in
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Speaker 1: our little Maverick over in University of Boulevard and she
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Speaker 1: would talk about, I've talked to you till I'm blue
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Speaker 1: in the face. About this, the old term blue in
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Speaker 1: the face. Well, that's what we all talked about all
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Speaker 1: off season until we were blue in the face, that
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Speaker 1: they were gonna be ups, they were going to be downs. Uh.
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Speaker 1: The other day was a big down, but there's gonna
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Speaker 1: be more of them. Doug said it in the big
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Speaker 1: in the big thing, I take two. Uh, that nobody
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Speaker 1: wants to be patient anymore. He also, which I get.
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Speaker 1: He also went on after that to talk about, um,
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Speaker 1: we're we're gonna keep working, We're gonna have moments. And
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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing it not very well, but he was making
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Speaker 1: the point that it doesn't mean you're giving up, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you don't think you can do things.
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Speaker 1: But the bottom line is with this quarterback adapting to
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Speaker 1: this offense, he has seen it. He saw it in
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Speaker 1: Philly two sixteen and two thousand seventeen, really really good.
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Speaker 1: He outlined it that I think he believes that's how
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Speaker 1: it's gonna go, although he can't lay it out with
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Speaker 1: an outline for him every week publicly, I don't doubt.
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Speaker 1: I mean, having talked to him over the last couple
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Speaker 1: of months since he arrived, and and and seeing the
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Speaker 1: way that he's done things, I know he knows what
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Speaker 1: he's doing. I've got that We'll just go back to
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Speaker 1: Sunday for the last time. There are moments where you
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Speaker 1: and all the efforts of just the front office side, right,
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Speaker 1: you know, selling tickets, getting people engaged again, where you
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Speaker 1: feel like, after how many times have I been a
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Speaker 1: rotary club where IVE said it's coming right and and
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Speaker 1: then it crashes and you keep thinking, you keep hoping
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Speaker 1: that that Sunday was that statement. Here we are, we're
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Speaker 1: climbing now over a team that wasn't as good as
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Speaker 1: they are right there, well, coach, but the rosters don't compare.
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Speaker 1: And um, and that's the hard part is is that
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people, not just fans, but people
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Speaker 1: on this side of the building who pushing hard every
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Speaker 1: week to you know, fill the stadium, to sell the advertisements,
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Speaker 1: to make this whole thing work. And when it doesn't,
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Speaker 1: that's where the empty feeling comes in. Even though I
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Speaker 1: know right that that is part of what this is
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Speaker 1: this year, it's still like you're missing opportunity to to
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Speaker 1: pay off all the effort that a lot of people
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Speaker 1: have brought into it. And I know the players don't
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Speaker 1: think that way, and the coaches don't have time to
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Speaker 1: think that way, but I do, and I know what
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Speaker 1: was missed on Sunday, and it's frustrating. It's the most
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Speaker 1: credibly frustrating. We talked about it more. It's even more frustrating,
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Speaker 1: all right, And as big things as we attempt to
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Speaker 1: look forward to Sunday's game against the Colts, Alera Overton
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Speaker 1: a Wednesday, getting ready for a Sunday game against the
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Speaker 1: Colts in Indianapolis, and for that we bring in Lara
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Speaker 1: over to him from Colts dot com. Lara, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for waking up with us. Thank you guys
10:13
Speaker 1: so much for having me. It's always good to be
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Speaker 1: with you guys. Yes, for sure, we talk a lots
10:17
Speaker 1: and I have a feeling on Sunday this game is
10:20
Speaker 1: going to be dramatic. We all know what happened in Jackson,
10:22
Speaker 1: all just a couple of weeks ago, and we all
10:24
Speaker 1: know the Jaguars have struggled since then, and the Jaguars
10:27
Speaker 1: players are already talking about when they go to Indie
10:30
Speaker 1: they're gonna get the Colts best. So what do you
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Speaker 1: expect from Sunday, Well, both teams are coming off pretty
10:37
Speaker 1: ugly games, right. You had each team in a bit
10:41
Speaker 1: of a defensive battle, so to speak. Neither really saw
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Speaker 1: the type of offensive production last weekend Week five that
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Speaker 1: they were aiming for. The Colts had that gritty victory
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Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football in Denver in which it was
10:54
Speaker 1: a field goal fest. Chase McLoughlin, who had just been
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Speaker 1: signed to the Colts roster active roster last week, You've
11:01
Speaker 1: been on the practice squad and you know back and
11:03
Speaker 1: forth being elevated prior to that, but goes four for
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Speaker 1: four and you had to win that game on the
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Speaker 1: foot of Chase McLoughlin and on another last minute stand
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Speaker 1: by your defense. I mean, right now, Stefan Gilmore is
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Speaker 1: looking like the Colts m v P at this point
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Speaker 1: to come up with the game clinching plays that he
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Speaker 1: has in both the Colts victories so far. That's one
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Speaker 1: of the things that is difficult about playing so many
11:25
Speaker 1: divisional games so early in this season, like you're seeing
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Speaker 1: for the Colts and for the Jags. Looking at the
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Speaker 1: cold schedule, it's five out of the first seven against
11:34
Speaker 1: the division. You started this season with back to back
11:36
Speaker 1: division games on the road. That was an ugly game
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Speaker 1: Week two for the Indianapolis Colts down there in jackson
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Speaker 1: villein When I talked to Frank Wright this week, he said,
11:46
Speaker 1: I asked him, what do you see as being things
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Speaker 1: you can draw from in that first meeting, But then
11:52
Speaker 1: also how are each team? How is each team a
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Speaker 1: little bit different than what you saw, And he said,
11:56
Speaker 1: both teams are better than they were in Week two,
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Speaker 1: because you know, with with both situations for the Jags,
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Speaker 1: you have a new head coach. You have a lot
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Speaker 1: of new pieces there, and for the Colts, an entirely
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Speaker 1: new defense, a lot of new pieces with the new
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Speaker 1: quarterback who's getting used to a new offensive line. You
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Speaker 1: had new additions to the defense along with that new
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Speaker 1: defensive scheme under dust Bradley. So both things were still
12:18
Speaker 1: trying to figure things out. And I think for the Cults,
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Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure out a lot of things
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Speaker 1: offensively at this point have yet to find the stride,
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Speaker 1: the continuity, the production that you were hoping to see
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Speaker 1: thus far when you have Jonathan Taylor and you have
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and the pieces that they do surrounding them.
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Speaker 1: So I think that each team is on a mission
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Speaker 1: to establish themselves, establish themselves and find their identity as
12:43
Speaker 1: we get into the second quarter of the season. The
12:45
Speaker 1: Colts were able to have a bit of that many
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Speaker 1: bye week coming off a win in Denver, So it
12:51
Speaker 1: does seem like that this is a team that is
12:53
Speaker 1: recharged and knows the opportunity that you have not just
12:56
Speaker 1: this week being at home against Jackson Mill, but also
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Speaker 1: going on the road next week and facing Tennessee. You
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Speaker 1: really have to own this quarter of this season. If
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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts are going to find a way to
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Speaker 1: be in the conversation to lead the division. Good morning,
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Speaker 1: l Why is the offensive line of Indianapolis, which had
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Speaker 1: been among the league's best for the last five or
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Speaker 1: six seasons, why has it not played up to its
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Speaker 1: standard this year? I think if I had that answer,
13:23
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sitting in this year. I'd be sitting
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Speaker 1: in a in a chair, maybe over on the other
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Speaker 1: side of the building, get maybe getting a bigger paycheck
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Speaker 1: if I could figure out exactly the offensive line right now.
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Speaker 1: But the one thing is a lot of guys playing,
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Speaker 1: you know, in different positions, and they have in the past.
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Speaker 1: Where you have Matt Pryor, who shifted over to left tackle,
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Speaker 1: he's more of a natural right tackle, shifted over to
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Speaker 1: be the starting left tackle this season. That was, you know,
13:46
Speaker 1: a new position for him in terms of being the
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Speaker 1: starter um at left tackle because last season it was
13:52
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher. Then you have Dna Pinter, who had been
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Speaker 1: your backup center last year, shifting over to play right
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Speaker 1: guard alongside Brandon Smith. You of course have your solidified
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Speaker 1: pieces with Ryan Kelly, Quenton Nelson and Brandon Smith. So
14:05
Speaker 1: you did have three of your five that are on
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Speaker 1: you know, the top paid offensive line in football, and
14:12
Speaker 1: Quinton of course you're all Pro Everything, who had just
14:15
Speaker 1: signed that extension earlier this season. But one of the
14:18
Speaker 1: things that's just a lot of shifting and a lot
14:20
Speaker 1: of rotation that you had those new pieces and new
14:23
Speaker 1: guys who were stepping in. The other thing is at
14:26
Speaker 1: at Denver, excuse me, on Thursday night, you had just
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Speaker 1: to walkthroughs, and they decided to mix things up and
14:33
Speaker 1: shift guys around and move guys into different positions to
14:36
Speaker 1: try to see if there would be a different offensive
14:38
Speaker 1: line combination that would provide more protection for Matt Ryan.
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Speaker 1: So I think the biggest component there is you have
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Speaker 1: guys who were thrust into new situations, into new positions
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Speaker 1: starting on the offensive line than you have had in
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Speaker 1: the past, and you were counting on guys to elevate themselves.
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Speaker 1: And you always think that when you are playing alongside
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Speaker 1: guys like you know, all Pro Pro Bowl or Quenton Nelson,
15:04
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl or Ryan Kelly, and then Brandon Smith as well,
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Speaker 1: who is one of the more underappreciated guys for all
15:10
Speaker 1: that he's able to do for this offensive line. It's
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Speaker 1: gonna make those new guys who are stepping in better
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Speaker 1: and they're going to be tasked to elevate their game.
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Speaker 1: But they just have not yet found They have not
15:19
Speaker 1: yet been on the same page. And one of the
15:22
Speaker 1: things that offensive line keeps saying is we just have
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Speaker 1: to play more physical up front, and they have faced
15:27
Speaker 1: some really tough defenses. That has been a factor certainly.
15:31
Speaker 1: I mean, that was one thing that we saw in
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Speaker 1: Jackson built with the defensive front that you guys have.
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Speaker 1: It's they've had some tall tasks to begin this season.
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Speaker 1: So they are going to need to find that and
15:41
Speaker 1: find out with a new quarterback, uh, sooner rather than later.
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Speaker 1: This is with apologies to Quentin Nelson, but you can
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Speaker 1: make the argument that Jonathan Taylor and Shack Leonard are
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Speaker 1: the colts two best players um and they've been out.
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Speaker 1: They've also made runs at the end of the season
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Speaker 1: a lot in recent years. Is there a feeling that
16:02
Speaker 1: if they can just get those two back and healthy,
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Speaker 1: that there's a late season run in this team, Laura,
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Speaker 1: I think that you could certainly make that point. One
16:11
Speaker 1: of the things is for Jonathan Taylor, he didn't miss
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Speaker 1: time until that Thursday game, in Jacksonville. You still had him.
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Speaker 1: He had you know, he did have a great game
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Speaker 1: Week one. They were able to get the ground game
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Speaker 1: going against Houston, but they had not been able to
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Speaker 1: get Jonathan at that type of production that you would
16:29
Speaker 1: anticipate from last year's league leading rusher. And for Shock,
16:35
Speaker 1: this was something that you expected. He was coming off
16:38
Speaker 1: the back surgery. He had a lot of recovery, not
16:41
Speaker 1: just from the back of the ankle, but also the
16:43
Speaker 1: nerves that were in there that they had to treat
16:46
Speaker 1: and they had to address when he had that injury.
16:50
Speaker 1: And then he's gonna miss more time because you saw
16:53
Speaker 1: the collision that he had was Ziah Franklin at the
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Speaker 1: goal line. It dented his face mask, broke his nose.
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Speaker 1: He's in concussion protocol. So now that's gonna be more time.
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Speaker 1: So the Colts have to figure it out without Shaquille Leonard,
17:08
Speaker 1: and you have other weapons. We heard a lot of
17:11
Speaker 1: conversation about how they would utilize nihme Hines differently. Look
17:15
Speaker 1: at what you've gotten from your tight ends thus far.
17:17
Speaker 1: The rookie July Woods and Molly Cox have both stepped
17:20
Speaker 1: up big for you as well. One of the tasks
17:23
Speaker 1: that you were going to have to address as an offense.
17:26
Speaker 1: You knew how teams were going to scheme for a
17:29
Speaker 1: guy like Jonathan Taylor. It's obvious what you're gonna try
17:32
Speaker 1: to do with Jonathan Taylor. You've gotta find ways to
17:34
Speaker 1: win and utilize the other pieces that you have, the
17:36
Speaker 1: other guys you have surrounding you. So I do think that,
17:40
Speaker 1: and you saw it in Denver. They did get good
17:42
Speaker 1: production from guys like Dion Jackson and Philip Lindsay. You
17:46
Speaker 1: hope that this is just a one game occurrence for
17:48
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. It doesn't seem like it's anything that is
17:51
Speaker 1: going to linger for much longer. The Colts will have
17:54
Speaker 1: their first practice of the week this afternoon, so we
17:57
Speaker 1: hope to get some more clarity on Jonathan Taylor. But
18:00
Speaker 1: now you have a compounding concern because on Thursday Night football,
18:03
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw it, but Naime
18:06
Speaker 1: Hines could barely get to his feet after taking a
18:09
Speaker 1: pretty violent hit, a pretty violent tackle down to the grass.
18:12
Speaker 1: So you might be without Naim Hines. You have to
18:15
Speaker 1: prepare for that scenario. He seemed to be pretty good
18:18
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Frank Craich said that even on Thursday
18:21
Speaker 1: in the locker room at halftime, he said, Hey, I
18:23
Speaker 1: want to go back in. You know I'm ready to
18:25
Speaker 1: go on fine. Uh, you know I've had taken harder
18:28
Speaker 1: hits than that. And Coach Wright said, that's when we
18:30
Speaker 1: have to protect players from themselves. We knew he was
18:33
Speaker 1: gonna be out, so we had to just, you know,
18:35
Speaker 1: find ways to figure it out beyond that and the
18:37
Speaker 1: longer term hell of Naime Hines is a greater concern
18:40
Speaker 1: than his availability in that football game. So it sounds
18:43
Speaker 1: like that things are trending well for naih just based
18:46
Speaker 1: on conversations I was able to talk with him as well.
18:48
Speaker 1: We'll see if he is out there today. But there,
18:50
Speaker 1: of course all of those steps and they have refined
18:53
Speaker 1: a lot of that concussion protocol, as you guys are
18:56
Speaker 1: well aware. So we'll see what his outlook and his
18:58
Speaker 1: trajectory is for the remainder of the week. But yeah,
19:02
Speaker 1: you have to just find wlace to do it. We
19:03
Speaker 1: talked about all the time. It's the old mantre, you
19:05
Speaker 1: hear it, text man up and the linebackers have played
19:08
Speaker 1: very well without Shaquille Leonard Zaire Franklin leads the league,
19:12
Speaker 1: is tied for the league lead in tackles to this
19:15
Speaker 1: point of this season. And you have Bobby Ocarrick who
19:18
Speaker 1: has stepped up and made a huge piece to this defense.
19:21
Speaker 1: So far, this Colts defense has yet to allow a
19:23
Speaker 1: point in the fourth quarter or in overtime. So despite
19:28
Speaker 1: Jack Leonard, you found ways to win. Now it's time
19:30
Speaker 1: for the offense. You know, despite the production that you
19:33
Speaker 1: may or may not get from Jonathan Taylor, you've got
19:35
Speaker 1: to find ways to win another with other weapons. A
19:39
Speaker 1: lot going on, but we know Sunday will be interesting. Nonetheless, Lair,
19:42
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on Jags Drive Him.
19:44
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19:47
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20:22
Speaker 1: Jaguarys Drive Time on a Wednesday, which means it's time
20:25
Speaker 1: for this or that. Looking forward to Sunday's game against
20:28
Speaker 1: the Colts. Ryan what he got for us? Well, this
20:30
Speaker 1: is this boils down to old school versus new school, right,
20:33
Speaker 1: I mean in this very room, I used to hear
20:35
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin talk about mix and balance and he was
20:39
Speaker 1: talking about run versus pass ratio. I mean he was
20:42
Speaker 1: and look at what he won with it, right, two
20:44
Speaker 1: Super Bowls was a part of a lot of winning football. Um.
20:48
Speaker 1: But that was then and this is now. And so
20:50
Speaker 1: you've got Doug who doesn't care at all about mix.
20:54
Speaker 1: I mean, he knows he needs to run to some
20:56
Speaker 1: degree to be able to set up play action and
20:58
Speaker 1: do things that he wants to do. Dog didn't care
21:01
Speaker 1: about balance. He didn't care about mix. So there's been
21:05
Speaker 1: a lot of holabloop this week about you know, why
21:07
Speaker 1: not more run? Why not more run? And I thought
21:10
Speaker 1: we had explained this. Dog didn't care about that. It's
21:13
Speaker 1: old school versus new school. What you want? What do
21:16
Speaker 1: you want? Would you rather have balanced? John? Well, No,
21:20
Speaker 1: I don't care, because I mean it depends on what
21:24
Speaker 1: you believe. Offensively. Uh. If if you're an offense that
21:28
Speaker 1: runs the way Tom ran his offense, then balance is
21:31
Speaker 1: very important. But if you watch the Chiefs. If if
21:34
Speaker 1: you watch teams which Doug Peterson's offense is Andy Reid Base,
21:38
Speaker 1: it's his own offense. But there's a lot of similarities.
21:41
Speaker 1: They don't care about it. Uh, the numbers don't necessarily
21:44
Speaker 1: add up because you're supposed to in this offense catch
21:48
Speaker 1: short passes and turn them into four or five yard
21:51
Speaker 1: runs to get yourself into second and five, third and two. Uh.
21:56
Speaker 1: Some of those little drops that people don't notice. The
22:00
Speaker 1: that's part of in Doug's offense what people think of
22:03
Speaker 1: as their run game. So I don't think it's it's
22:06
Speaker 1: nearly as important as people think. Um, and it's not
22:10
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's not how he's gonna run the offense.
22:13
Speaker 1: And look, their thirteenth in the NFL in total yards.
22:16
Speaker 1: They had four and twenty two yards of offense the
22:19
Speaker 1: other day. If your average four twenty two yards offense,
22:22
Speaker 1: you're in the top five in the league. Um, they
22:25
Speaker 1: have to execute in the red zone. Now, maybe in
22:27
Speaker 1: the red zone on second and one, should you have
22:30
Speaker 1: run there? Uh? Maybe, But I think if you're Doug,
22:35
Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna hang Trevor out publicly. But if
22:39
Speaker 1: you're Doug, You're you're saying on second and one from
22:42
Speaker 1: the seven, we called a rollout. If he runs out
22:45
Speaker 1: of bounds, we have a first down, we have a
22:47
Speaker 1: new set of downs. It was not a bad call.
22:49
Speaker 1: So I guess fans can want the run, but they're
22:53
Speaker 1: not gonna get it in the way that they're used
22:56
Speaker 1: to getting it because that's not what this offense is. Well,
22:58
Speaker 1: and then Jack delil was here interrupted. There was so
23:02
Speaker 1: much conversation about three yards and a cloud of dust.
23:05
Speaker 1: And you know, it was good for a while when
23:06
Speaker 1: you had Maurice and Fred both running in their prime,
23:09
Speaker 1: but people wanted to see this passing offense. Finally, you
23:12
Speaker 1: have a quarterback and he's he's paired with a coach
23:15
Speaker 1: that has this modern approach to it that that's the
23:18
Speaker 1: mind shift has to change because they're not going back
23:21
Speaker 1: the other he was. People look at the stats and say, well,
23:25
Speaker 1: they're running so effectively, why don't they do it more.
23:28
Speaker 1: If you ran more in this scheme and you kept
23:33
Speaker 1: turning around and grinding when the other team knows it's coming,
23:36
Speaker 1: it's not going to be as effective. Dougs all about
23:39
Speaker 1: running situations where you can be effective running do not
23:43
Speaker 1: run into brick walls where you're not going to be effective.
23:46
Speaker 1: It's not going to change. This is what the offense
23:47
Speaker 1: is and hopefully they get third the NFL like thirtieth
23:53
Speaker 1: last year with he didn't score the other day. But
23:57
Speaker 1: I don't get the impression that the scoring, except for
24:00
Speaker 1: at one play the run pass bounce, wasn't affecting the scoring.
24:05
Speaker 1: It's it's not like those long runs from E. T. N.
24:08
Speaker 1: And said, just keep giving him the ball. He's the
24:10
Speaker 1: hot hand. But he had a hot hand because they
24:12
Speaker 1: ran in situations where that mates exactly right. And I
24:15
Speaker 1: get White fans are saying, well, why are you doing
24:17
Speaker 1: something that isn't working? And this is working, so let's
24:19
Speaker 1: do this that is working. But if this is the offense,
24:22
Speaker 1: and Coach Peterson was saying, especially with Trevor, to have
24:24
Speaker 1: that consistency of learning this offensive scheme does no good
24:27
Speaker 1: change in it. Now. This is it. You gotta learn
24:29
Speaker 1: it this way. And I might say some time. They're
24:31
Speaker 1: building it around his skill set. They'll get better at it.
24:34
Speaker 1: That's why he keeps saying he'll get better. They'll get better.
24:37
Speaker 1: You get better when you just run the ball out
24:40
Speaker 1: of bounds. For the first down Trevor right. I mean
24:43
Speaker 1: we could all see that. So now he's got to
24:45
Speaker 1: take that and go right. Doug keeps saying in the
24:47
Speaker 1: press conference is when he's asked about is the players
24:50
Speaker 1: are there? Uh, that means that the players with hair
24:54
Speaker 1: and then not being executed it. At some point they
24:56
Speaker 1: have to execute it. And there's no other way for
24:58
Speaker 1: him to say that. There's no other way to make
25:00
Speaker 1: that nicer and say, well, we're doing it right. They
25:02
Speaker 1: aren't doing it right. You can't say that though, well,
25:03
Speaker 1: I said, but he's not saying. I mean, yeah, what
25:07
Speaker 1: do you got I have? Christian Kirk or z A Jones?
25:12
Speaker 1: Is the topic? What's more important A big game for
25:16
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, the big game for a Jones? Well, it's
25:18
Speaker 1: all important. You gotta get the passing game going. They
25:21
Speaker 1: only had they had a bunch of targets. I think
25:25
Speaker 1: they had like twenty four yards receiving together. That's gotta
25:27
Speaker 1: get better. I think it's more important right now for
25:29
Speaker 1: this offense to get Christian Kirk going again. Uh. It's
25:34
Speaker 1: hard to figure out why that didn't happen the other day.
25:36
Speaker 1: Sometimes blips happened like that for receivers. He had one
25:41
Speaker 1: catch for eleven yards I think it was, and three targets.
25:45
Speaker 1: I I expect that to be dramatically different on Sunday.
25:48
Speaker 1: I think they will make an effort to get Christian
25:50
Speaker 1: Kirk the ball. Uh as this, I don't say as
25:54
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk goes, the offense goes, but he sure helps Trevor,
25:57
Speaker 1: and as Trevor goes, the offense goes. So I'll say
25:59
Speaker 1: Jones because it's clear the last two weeks that the
26:03
Speaker 1: Eagles and the Texans were taking Christian Kirk away right Uh,
26:07
Speaker 1: Doug said there was some place for him and maybe
26:08
Speaker 1: he Trevor missed those. Um. But I think it's important
26:12
Speaker 1: to get Zay Jones going because I go back to
26:13
Speaker 1: training camp and they were all excited. Trevor in particular,
26:16
Speaker 1: was really excited about all the different things that Day
26:19
Speaker 1: could do. There's got to be somebody on the other
26:21
Speaker 1: side of Christian Kirk. There's got to be a go
26:23
Speaker 1: to option, somebody that will allow Kirk to get free.
26:27
Speaker 1: So I think it's important that they get Za Jones
26:29
Speaker 1: going so that they don't have to force the ball
26:32
Speaker 1: into Christian Kirk. Remember, he tried to force it on
26:35
Speaker 1: that interception in the third quarter in Philadelphia, and if
26:38
Speaker 1: he dumps it out to Agne, they probably score touchdown
26:40
Speaker 1: and take the lead. And there were opportunities talked about
26:42
Speaker 1: forcing the ball down the field in his postgame news
26:45
Speaker 1: conference on Sunday, He's trying to force things. They're trying
26:48
Speaker 1: to force it to Christian Kirk. Take a deep breath,
26:51
Speaker 1: get Jones to catch it because he didn't the other day,
26:53
Speaker 1: and then the Kirk opportunities will come. Yeah, it's almost
26:56
Speaker 1: like the security blanket. Lot times. We talk about it
26:58
Speaker 1: as a good thing can be a bad thing when
26:59
Speaker 1: you do it too much. And we say that, Okay,
27:02
Speaker 1: Trevor goes, Christian goes, I think of zages, Christian goes.
27:05
Speaker 1: Zay has to be on the field to get the
27:07
Speaker 1: pressure off of Christian Kirk because it's clear the recipe
27:09
Speaker 1: now is, oh, they're throwing a Kurk, let's cover him.
27:11
Speaker 1: We saw that in Los Angeles especially. All Right, my
27:14
Speaker 1: this or that is sweep or make it five in
27:16
Speaker 1: a row. And we're talking about Sunday's game. This would
27:18
Speaker 1: be that the Jaguars win. This would be the first
27:21
Speaker 1: time they sweep the colt since two thousand and fourteen seventeen. Now,
27:25
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have lost the past four ease to the Colts.
27:29
Speaker 1: So are they gonna sweep? Are they gonna make it
27:31
Speaker 1: five losses in a row? We're just basically predicting Sunday's game. Yeah,
27:35
Speaker 1: sorry about it, but we're just calling it as it is. Yeah,
27:38
Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, I'm gonna go with the
27:41
Speaker 1: Jags winning in Andy. Here's why, because I think they're
27:43
Speaker 1: a better team. Right That doesn't mean necessarily that they're
27:46
Speaker 1: going to execute better, but I think that their roster
27:49
Speaker 1: is better. I think that the defensive line, if they're
27:52
Speaker 1: healthy with Flukan and I'm sorry, we fully fought, I
27:56
Speaker 1: think that they've got an advantage there. Uh, the culture
27:59
Speaker 1: b up. I'm gonna go with it. I'm going to
28:02
Speaker 1: say that they find a way to pull it all
28:05
Speaker 1: back together after two bad games. I don't trust him
28:07
Speaker 1: right now, based on last week. I don't want to
28:09
Speaker 1: do that, but I'm trying to be consistent. I don't
28:12
Speaker 1: like the Colts. I don't think they're that good right now.
28:14
Speaker 1: I think they're beat up, and I think that this
28:16
Speaker 1: team has a better roster, So I'll go with the
28:18
Speaker 1: Jaguars in a field goal, last play the game field goal.
28:24
Speaker 1: What do I want to happen or what I think
28:26
Speaker 1: will happen. I think it's I think the Colts are
28:33
Speaker 1: gonna win because I think they seem to this year
28:41
Speaker 1: have had a knack for winning ugly, grinded out games
28:45
Speaker 1: when they win. They beat the Chiefs that way, they
28:47
Speaker 1: beat the Broncos that way. They seem to be a
28:50
Speaker 1: team that's sort of hanging on and doing things that way.
28:53
Speaker 1: That's what well A should say. That's what I worry
28:55
Speaker 1: about with this game. Um Diddy was so unpredictable right now.
29:02
Speaker 1: I hate the phrase you don know which team is
29:03
Speaker 1: gonna show up? And it feels like, uh so I'm
29:09
Speaker 1: gonna flip a coin and go Colts because at home,
29:13
Speaker 1: because it's so tough to beat the team that a
29:15
Speaker 1: second time in the division, and all those factors that
29:17
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about the pig No, And and
29:19
Speaker 1: you say you don't know what team is gonna show up,
29:20
Speaker 1: that's the Jaguars right now? Are that the Jaguars in
29:22
Speaker 1: Los Angeles? The Jaguars last week? What team is gonna
29:25
Speaker 1: show up? Because that's two totally different teams. And and
29:27
Speaker 1: and to be fair, I mean the flip side of
29:29
Speaker 1: the guy is that there are a team that finds
29:30
Speaker 1: a way to hang on and win. Yes, but if
29:33
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson just throws it to kJ Hamler instead of
29:35
Speaker 1: trying to force the ball, and I mean he was
29:37
Speaker 1: wide open, they win. And and the Chiefs gave them
29:40
Speaker 1: that game with the mistakes and the penalties, and I
29:42
Speaker 1: mean that blah right, Um, so I just I just
29:45
Speaker 1: given away a couple of games to no. No. Well,
29:47
Speaker 1: but that's how it works the cultures. I totally get that.
29:49
Speaker 1: But I just don't think that we have seen good
29:52
Speaker 1: Colts teams, right, We've seen good Coult teams that have
29:56
Speaker 1: run over this team and then taking the lead and
29:59
Speaker 1: then let to go right and just held on for
30:02
Speaker 1: a win. I just don't think it's the same thing.
30:03
Speaker 1: I guess my worry is right now, the Jaguars look
30:06
Speaker 1: like a team that is doing a good job of
30:10
Speaker 1: keeping other teams in the game. Yes, so that's where,
30:15
Speaker 1: So that that makes sense. I just we'll see, Yeah,
30:19
Speaker 1: I think this will just go with We'll see and
30:21
Speaker 1: we'll just see what happens. And that's what happens when
30:23
Speaker 1: you lose a game like you do at home. No
30:25
Speaker 1: one's quite sure. Old Jaguars, we don't think so, but
30:31
Speaker 1: they have to go prove it on Sunday. And that
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31:00
Speaker 1: field today, back in the locker room, seeing if the guys,
31:03
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll say next one. We're moving on. We're
31:05
Speaker 1: looking at the Colts. Brian, what are you going on
31:08
Speaker 1: to speak? I am going to visit with Richard and Ghulo,
31:11
Speaker 1: the tight ends coach, who, interesting enough, was a player
31:15
Speaker 1: on this team, uh ten years ago. He's part of
31:18
Speaker 1: the great OH seven team. Uh. He and Tony Gilbert,
31:21
Speaker 1: the middle linebackers coach. We're teammates and now they're coaching together.
31:24
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go visit with Richard and Goola a
31:26
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31:47
Speaker 1: We're still working on that, so, but I predict we
31:51
Speaker 1: will have a guest and it will not be Bucky Brooks. No,
31:54
Speaker 1: we're overhand. Right off the field this week is Travis E.
31:57
Speaker 1: T N, who's coming off a great game. If you're
31:59
Speaker 1: gonna look at a positive from Sunday, it is Travis
32:02
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