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9-24-26 Hour 3 - Jeff Legwold/Broncos vs Rams Litmus Test/Full trailer for "Madden" movie · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: Hello, Leggy.
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  Speaker 5: Morning, fellas.
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  Speaker 3: So, this is a tried and true tradition over the
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  Speaker 3: last year.
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  Speaker 4: The Broncos go out and win a football game late,
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  Speaker 4: and I go on the air the next day, and
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  Speaker 4: I say, I don't like what I saw in the
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  Speaker 4: first half, and people call me a hater in that
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  Speaker 4: I suck. Am I right to feel the way I
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  Speaker 4: do about watching the offense early in games? Because that
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  Speaker 4: was sort of the point of the offseason was they said,
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  Speaker 4: we're trying to fix that. Yeah, well.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I guess if I had a dollar for
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  Speaker 6: every time I was told I suck, I would not
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  Speaker 6: be working probably.
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  Speaker 3: Nice little retirement fund?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. It's like a swear jar, but the size of
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  Speaker 6: a tanker truck. But I think, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 6: think it's to be unexpected. You got a new play caller.
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  Speaker 6: You've got, you know, just a new way of doing things. And,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I think the opener was more concerning because
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  Speaker 6: they didn't do the things they kept saying they wanted
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  Speaker 6: to do all offseason, you know, run the ball, be
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  Speaker 6: more consistent in the run game, all of those things.
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  Speaker 6: I think, you know, this past week, I think that's
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  Speaker 6: a pretty good team. I think that's a better team
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  Speaker 6: than the Chiefs are, you know, roster-wise. Maybe not, you know,
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  Speaker 6: they don't have Mahomes. you know, be in the homes,
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  Speaker 6: but I think they're a better constructed team overall. So it,
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  Speaker 6: and they're physical that that's, that's kind of a, one
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  Speaker 6: of the more physical AFC teams you're going to run into.
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  Speaker 6: So it wasn't shocking to me, but again, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I think that the commitment to the run was sort
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  Speaker 6: of spotty early. And I think when they, you know,
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  Speaker 6: At some point, they'll accept the fact that when they
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  Speaker 6: put Bo Nix under center, they play offense better. And
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  Speaker 6: that might just be my anecdotal opinion, but I've charted
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  Speaker 6: all of the plays multiple times, and I've seen them live,
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  Speaker 6: and they're just better when he's under center, even though
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  Speaker 6: they don't like to do that as much.
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  Speaker 1: Opens up play action, opens up the passing game, opens
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  Speaker 1: up so much more. Hey, I asked Chad Brown this question, Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: Scripting plays. Why is it that the Broncos, I assume
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  Speaker 1: they script, right? They script the first few. They have to.
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  Speaker 1: Why aren't those working?
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  Speaker 6: You know, they call them openers. Sean Payton calls them openers.
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  Speaker 6: My sense from talking to him about it a lot
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  Speaker 6: over these seasons is it's more of a grouping. And
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  Speaker 6: he does things he calls dots. He dots plays that
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  Speaker 6: the quarterback has, you know, Bo has gone over with him.
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  Speaker 6: in their sort of final meeting of the week about
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  Speaker 6: the game plan. And it is curious. I mean, I've
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  Speaker 6: asked them several times, you know, are they just guessing
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  Speaker 6: wrong what they're going to get from defenses? I think
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  Speaker 6: defenses are more cognizant knowing that Sean is a longtime coach, A,
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  Speaker 6: and fanatical about, retracing looks he's seen before. So I
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  Speaker 6: think people try to give him more different looks than
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  Speaker 6: they would other coaches because his resume is just longer.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, they've had a pretty good run here over,
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  Speaker 6: you know, a season and two games, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: last two seasons that were their openers are not making
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  Speaker 6: much progress. you know, good stuff happen. And, you know, again,
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  Speaker 6: I think some of that is, I think they tend
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  Speaker 6: to sort of go for stuff early when maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 6: just run it a little more, get the cheap, easy
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  Speaker 6: completions and get things rolling, get those early first downs.
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  Speaker 6: And maybe you've got some momentum to work.
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  Speaker 2: Off of, to go from there. Jeff, I'm telling you though,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the bone nicks I saw in the second half,
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  Speaker 2: the way he moves and, the way he throws, the
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  Speaker 2: way he operates. It looks like a different guy than
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  Speaker 2: we saw in the first half where he pitter-patter feed,
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  Speaker 2: that sort of thing. It just seems to me when
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  Speaker 2: he wants to just sling it, like, hey, throw caution
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  Speaker 2: to the wind. Let's just go for it, man, that
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing. Everybody feeds off that. Then they just
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  Speaker 2: start humming. It just starts working. It just blows my
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  Speaker 2: mind that this becomes a totally different guy.
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  Speaker 6: Well, some of it is, you know, he's still as
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  Speaker 6: a young– you know, he's in his– third year and
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  Speaker 6: i think sometimes we treat him like he's in his
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  Speaker 6: 10th but uh i think he's amped early and that's
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  Speaker 6: a real thing for quarterbacks a lot of the time
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  Speaker 6: you know if you're trying to layer the ball and
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  Speaker 6: you're all amped up and you know it's going to
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  Speaker 6: be an overthrow it's going to be you know wide
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  Speaker 6: it's you're not going to get the uh you know
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  Speaker 6: the same accuracy you would have later in the game when,
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  Speaker 6: when you're sort of into the flow of things. And,
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  Speaker 6: you know, again, I, you know, I don't think as,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Sean often says, they're not splitting the atom
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  Speaker 6: here and just run it better. Give them play action,
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  Speaker 6: give them some movement, you know, and he seems to
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  Speaker 6: flourish better in that. Now, you know, like all quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 6: these gays, he's done nothing but play in the gun
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  Speaker 6: since he was in Peewee. But these guys are much
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  Speaker 6: better under center. I fully subscribe to the Gary Kubiak,
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  Speaker 6: Mike Shanahan theory that quarterback play is better when guys
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  Speaker 6: are under center more. And I think we're seeing it
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  Speaker 6: league-wide as people, you know, the pendulum's kind of swung
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  Speaker 6: this year. You're seeing a little more heavy personnel and
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  Speaker 6: people under center more. And, you know, the Broncos were
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  Speaker 6: almost 50-50 in this game. And I think that's a
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  Speaker 6: pretty good ratio for them and Bo to what you're
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  Speaker 6: speaking to.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwald, ESPN.com.
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  Speaker 4: All conversations with Leggy are brought to you by the
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  Speaker 4: International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, IBEW Local 68. Start with
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  Speaker 4: a job, end with a career. One thing that has
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  Speaker 4: been consistent through the first two games of the year
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  Speaker 4: for the Broncos is their pass defense has been great.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't allow a pass over 10 area yards.
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  Speaker 4: to Patrick Mahomes. Now they racked up yardage because of
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  Speaker 4: missed tackles in that first week. They limited Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 4: through the air in week two, but now you welcome
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  Speaker 4: in Stafford. Are you expecting more of the same, or
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  Speaker 4: is the Rams offense almost too talented to be held
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  Speaker 4: down that way?
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, if Nakua doesn't play, it's a different look.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's easier to rotate coverage to Devontae Adams
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  Speaker 6: and take your chances with everybody else, but look, this
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  Speaker 6: is a really good secondary that there aren't. I don't
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  Speaker 6: think there's another team in the league that has the
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  Speaker 6: kind of depth that corner the Broncos do. And they
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  Speaker 6: have the ultimate chess piece in certain when you're making
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  Speaker 6: any coverage plan, you know, Vance Joseph will never have
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  Speaker 6: another player like Patrick Sertan to start his coverage plan
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  Speaker 6: every week. So This is a rare time, you know, for,
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  Speaker 6: for if you're a fan of the Broncos, it's, it's
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  Speaker 6: hard to put this kind of secondary together in the
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  Speaker 6: free agency era. And three of these guys will be
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  Speaker 6: scheduled free agents in March. So, you know, keeping it together,
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  Speaker 6: it's going to be another thing, but they can, Brett,
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  Speaker 6: to your point, they, they just have more options. They
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  Speaker 6: can do more things. You know, they can play you,
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  Speaker 6: in off coverage and attack the ball and make tackles.
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  Speaker 6: They can play you in, in man, they can play
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  Speaker 6: you in press. You know, they can play combos, you know,
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  Speaker 6: cover to one side, cover for the other, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the traditional cover six. I mean, they, they could just
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  Speaker 6: play any way you want. And if you have a
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  Speaker 6: marquee receiver, guess what? They, they've got the guy they
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  Speaker 6: can just put there if they want to. And, And that's,
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  Speaker 6: you know, something other people don't have. But Stafford, you know,
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  Speaker 6: this is interesting. This is really Stafford's first trip here
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  Speaker 6: since 2011. I mean, he hasn't played in Denver since
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  Speaker 6: Tebow was the Broncos quarterback. So but I've had defensive coaches, players.
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  Speaker 6: tell me that they think Stafford's the best pure thrower
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  Speaker 6: they've ever seen. And, and that's pretty high praise. And
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  Speaker 6: he's at the, at the peak of his powers. He's,
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  Speaker 6: you know, he's, he's at the, near the end of
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  Speaker 6: his career, but his ability, you're not going to fool them.
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  Speaker 6: So if the Broncos go in with this idea, they're
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  Speaker 6: going to fool them.
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  Speaker 3: That's a mistake.
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  Speaker 6: They need old school interior pressure. get him off his spot,
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  Speaker 6: because if you let him stand there, he's going to
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  Speaker 6: make it a long day.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff, real quick, I know Vic's got something, but that's
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  Speaker 2: what I've been saying. When you look at that throw
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  Speaker 2: he made on Adams' first touchdown, sliding to his left
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  Speaker 2: across the line and then across– and then over two
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  Speaker 2: guys and then drops it in, I'm like, how many
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  Speaker 2: guys in the league, A, can make that play, but
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  Speaker 2: B– he's really good when I'm watching him, he's really
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  Speaker 2: good at buying time. And when he buys that extra
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  Speaker 2: second or half a second or whatever it is, it
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  Speaker 2: allows his guy to get that much freer. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? It's like they work hand in hand
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  Speaker 2: together and then he's got that arm and that accuracy.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just, it blows my mind. It's even his
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  Speaker 2: advanced age.
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  Speaker 6: No, it's these, he's, you know, he was hidden for
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  Speaker 6: a long time in Detroit and you know, going to
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  Speaker 6: LA has been freedom for him. You know, won an MVP,
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  Speaker 6: won a Superbowl.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, it's capped his career.
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  Speaker 6: Probably we'll put them in Canton, his LA years, uh,
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  Speaker 6: and everything, you know, Brock Purdy said something interesting I
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  Speaker 6: saw the other day. And I think it's summed up
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  Speaker 6: NFL quarterback play for guys like Stafford and, you know,
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  Speaker 6: Nick's everybody else, uh, Purdy said about 40% of the
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  Speaker 6: time as an NFL quarterback, you can't see your target.
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  Speaker 6: So it's all about anticipation and processing and knowing where
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  Speaker 6: you're going with the ball because you're not going to
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  Speaker 6: see the intended receiver in the intended spot. And Stafford
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  Speaker 6: does that part of it as good as anybody I've
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  Speaker 6: ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I hate to say this, but If anybody's
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  Speaker 1: ever tried to play the quarterback position at any level,
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  Speaker 1: just go to a flag football game. Go to a
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  Speaker 1: Sunday rec game and try to process a defense. Just try.
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  Speaker 1: And watch the moving parts. I think it's the most
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  Speaker 1: difficult position in all of sports, and there's not even
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  Speaker 1: a close second. There's nothing even second place. That's how
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  Speaker 1: hard that position is. Totally agree with you. Off topic.
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles also has a pair of running backs. They
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  Speaker 1: can go at you. What about the Broncos running back situation?
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  Speaker 1: Who's playing Sunday?
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  Speaker 2: Good luck.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I think in-house here, I think they feel
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  Speaker 6: good about Dobbins' chances, and I think they believe Jonah
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  Speaker 6: Coleman will be able to play too.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: I thought he would be the one that would be
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  Speaker 2: out with a sprained ankle.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, he finished the game. Now, you know, again,
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  Speaker 6: it happens a lot. A guy goes home Sunday night
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  Speaker 6: and Monday morning shows up with, you know, paint. pain
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  Speaker 6: and swelling, like unbelievable that they didn't have the night before.
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  Speaker 6: So there is that, and, you know, sprained ankles are
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  Speaker 6: never fun and all of that, but I, you know, we'll,
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  Speaker 6: we'll see what Coleman status is today at practice. And
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  Speaker 6: I think tomorrow more importantly is sort of the day
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  Speaker 6: I keep an eye on for what's a guy's participation
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  Speaker 6: level on Friday. Cause I, you know, Saturday is kind
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  Speaker 6: of a amped up walkthrough type practice. So Friday is
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  Speaker 6: really your sort of best indication.
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  Speaker 3: Of, of where they're at.
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  Speaker 6: And if, you know, I think you'd, you'd want to
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  Speaker 6: know if, if Coleman's going to be one of those,
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  Speaker 6: he has to work out Sunday morning and show them
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  Speaker 6: something or early Sunday afternoon and show them something before
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  Speaker 6: he can play. But I don't think we'll know much
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  Speaker 6: about that until tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Last thing for you, Leggy, always appreciate the time.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Waddell had one of the biggest receiving games for
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  Speaker 4: the Broncos in a long time.
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  Speaker 3: I looked it up.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they've only had a handful of 100-yard performances
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  Speaker 4: at wide receiver over the last few years.
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  Speaker 3: But what does this mean for Sutton?
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  Speaker 4: He obviously was a focal point, get the ball in
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Waddell's hands, but I think Sutton has five catches
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  Speaker 4: through two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: What happens with him?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know, I sort of said this
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  Speaker 6: with you guys before the season that there's only one ball.
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  Speaker 6: So if Jalen Waddle is going to get a lot
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  Speaker 6: of targets and a lot of catches, then that's, that's
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  Speaker 6: a big chunk of the pie chart taken up. I
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  Speaker 6: think Cortland Sutton is genuine that he wants to win.
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  Speaker 6: And eventually people are going to have to, to try
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  Speaker 6: to do something with Waddle. So it's like when the
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  Speaker 6: Broncos had DT and Emmanuel and, They rarely got to
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  Speaker 6: eat in the same game, but during the season, things
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  Speaker 6: swung back and forth depending how people decided to attack them. Now,
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  Speaker 6: people are going to try to do something with Waddle
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  Speaker 6: because he's already shown it's a problem for their defenses.
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  Speaker 6: So I think Sutton and other people will get more
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  Speaker 6: action as the reaction changes. is going to come here
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  Speaker 6: in the next couple of weeks and, and they'll have
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  Speaker 6: to do more with Waddle to get them free as,
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  Speaker 6: as the weeks go on. But I think, you know,
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  Speaker 6: they're going to throw it enough to keep everybody busy
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  Speaker 6: and you need more than one target if you're going
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  Speaker 6: to really succeed. So, you know, but what does that
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  Speaker 6: mean for your fantasy team? You know, good luck figuring
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  Speaker 6: it out week to week, but maybe scout the defenses
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  Speaker 6: a little bit and see what you think. But, I
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  Speaker 6: think eventually people are going to get the ball, but Waddle,
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  Speaker 6: Waddle will lead this team and targets and receptions and everything. If,
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  Speaker 6: if things go the way they want to. And I
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  Speaker 6: think deep down, Cortland knew that when, when he got here. So,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I, I think that's just pro football. You know, if,
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  Speaker 6: if you want to be on a good team, this
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  Speaker 6: is the cost of being on a good team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't, you didn't spend a first round pick to
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  Speaker 4: get a guy 50 catches in a year.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Yeah, and honestly, do you want to lead
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  Speaker 6: a team in catches that has six wins? I don't
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  Speaker 6: think players want that deep down, or at least the
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  Speaker 6: good ones don't.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwald, ESPN.com, joins us every week. Appreciate it, Leggy.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thanks, fellas.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Legwald, ESPN.com. We got one final keyword to give
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  Speaker 4: you guys a chance to get in the building for
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  Speaker 4: the opening game for the Avs Wednesday night next. All right,
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  Speaker 4: as we inch closer and closer towards the weekend and
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  Speaker 4: this big game on Sunday night, which I do feel
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  Speaker 4: like it's a good indicator.
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  Speaker 3: It's a litmus test. I mean, Vic, you've said it
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  Speaker 3: there at home.
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  Speaker 4: Like, this should be, if you're a team that's taken seriously,
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  Speaker 4: then this game should be one that, yeah, you should be.
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  Speaker 3: Able to win even against a good opponent.
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  Speaker 4: Now, your final keyword of the day for a chance
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  Speaker 4: to get in the building on September 30th, is Marty.
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  Speaker 4: So text that in your first and last name to 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 4: The Avs are back in less than a week. Full
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  Speaker 4: season of great nights at Ball Arena, including one of
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  Speaker 3: Of the year.
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  Speaker 3: But again, Vic, you mentioned it. Like, this game's at home.
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  Speaker 3: This might be against a good team, but you're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be a good team.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, where are we right now? I don't understand
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  Speaker 1: why people would have any other expectation. The expectation is
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  Speaker 1: to win this game. And if you don't, you should
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  Speaker 1: be not concerned. I'm not going to go there, but disappointed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong with good expectations, baby. You're a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: injury away from the Super Bowl last year. Anything less
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  Speaker 1: would be silly.
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  Speaker 4: With, I mean, most people assuming that if he wasn't hurt,
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  Speaker 4: you're probably in to a Super Bowl appearance. Now, just
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  Speaker 4: talk to Legwald. It is something interesting. You know, he
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  Speaker 4: brings up with Demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders. They would
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  Speaker 4: have games in which one guy would play well or
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  Speaker 4: get numbers and the other guy wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: And that would kind of flip as the year went on.
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  Speaker 3: Do you see that happening with Sutton and Waddle?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they made 1,000% in effort to get the
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: ball in Waddle's hands.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I can see it happening depending on how defenses are
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: going to play you on any given week. I mean,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: that's what's going to be up to Sean Payton and
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Davis Webb early on to see which way they're leaning.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: The beauty of it, though, you can deploy Waddle. So
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: many different ways that you can make it nearly impossible
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: for the opposing team to single him up and double him.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at what they did on that play
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that resulted in the DB falling because he gave him
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: a juke move. Look at where they took Waddle. They
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: took him in motion, almost like an arena league play.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: In motion and then straight up field. I mean, if
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you really want to use Waddle, and this is why
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: week one I was just flummoxed as to why they
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: didn't use him more. You can use him. Put him
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: in the backfield if you have to. Put him anywhere.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: There should be no limitations on how you deploy.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: He rounded that in motion. He rounded that one off
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: just a little bit.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: By the way, I love that's the one rule in
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: arena ball that I used to love where a receiver
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: could just start sprinting. And get to the line of
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: scrimmage as the ball is snapped and have such a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: huge advantage.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: And same thing with the CFL too, Vic. In the
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Canadian Football League, you get guys running full speed to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and it's awesome.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Go, baby. You're a DB and you're like, what am
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I supposed to do?
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Start running.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Two big pieces of information that have yet to be
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: revealed in this game is who's going to play at
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: running back for the Broncos. Now, Legwell just told us
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: they're optimistic about J.K. Dobbins and they're optimistic about Jonah Coleman.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: but not so much about R.J.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Harvey.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: On the other side of things, not having Pukunuku in
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: the lineup is a gigantic.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: game changer.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Is that a for sure?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Or is that just a, it's, it's a, it's a,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: maybe I just saw a video of him running or
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: doing his, do you see the video of it or
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Brett on the TV?
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I didn't, but I've, I've heard that it's very unlikely
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: that he plays not to say that he won't, but
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: it's very unlikely through the ladder.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: And listen, it's not serious, but they're being incredibly cautious. Well, look, man,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: there's no, there is absolutely no way that, that, J.K.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: is going to be fully healthy this weekend. He's going
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: to be dealing with something. If Harvey goes, he's going
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to be dealing with something. If Coleman plays, they're all
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: going to be dealing with something.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: If you have a hamstring and you're going to play,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you're going to be tentative, right? You have to be.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Very cautious. By the way.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, if they think that they– you know what?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Mary had a little clam. If you think you're going
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: to walk into Mile High Stadium and, oh, you know what? Well,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: we can still be cautious with Puka. Look what happened
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: last week. Devontae went. If that's their mentality coming in here,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: we don't need them to win. I don't think that
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: they have that, but Broncos are going to be playing
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: guys that are going to be a little bit banged up,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: no doubt about it, because they have to. Yeah. The
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Rams don't feel like they– if the Rams feel against
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: this defense, they can come in without an Akua, even
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: if he's 90%.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Good luck.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think they're thinking that they're going to
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: be fine without Puka Nakua. It would be difficult for
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: them if they had Puka healthy and in the lineup.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying for the stress it puts on,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: and I'm looking specifically at Riley Moss. I just think
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: no matter if they get both guys out there or not,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I told you earlier in the week, if I'm the Rams,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: if I find Riley Moss in a one-on-one situation with
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the Devontae Adams, I'm throwing Adams the football and hoping that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: He gets a flag. Because that was sort of the M.O.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Last year, is that you get Riley Moss one-on-one, he
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: gets a little bit handsy, you might get a 30,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: 40-yard penalty out of it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: And I think they'll test it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Why don't they do the same thing to Corlin Sutton, then?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think they should.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: But....
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Jalen Waddley, he catches for 138 yards.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Like, I've said this before about court, and I don't
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: know the proper answer to this. I'm not some sort of, like,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: football film watcher. It's always kind of felt to me
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: that Sutton has games where he just kind of... He's
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: kind of gone, and he's out of it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: And there was.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: You know, a long period of time where people told me, well,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: it's because he was the only weapon on offense. And
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: if they wanted to scheme him out of the game,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: they'd scheme him out of the game. I have a
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: hard time believing after watching Jalen model, get eight catches
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: for 138 yards and leaving defenders literally on the ground
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: in his wake, that Cortland Sutton is going to get
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: the bulk of the attention on offense now, which I
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: would imagine would open him up to more one-on-one opportunities
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: in which he should be able to get open and
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: make plays.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: It's only been two weeks, so we'll see. But I've
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: always had that question about Cortland. It's just like, he'll
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: have games where, I mean, you guys know what I'm
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: talking about, right?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great receivers don't go AWOL. No.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Guess what, dude? Julio Jones in, and I'm not saying
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: that he's in this category.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: But how much of that is his doing, though? That's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the great question that we have yet to answer.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm asking.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Is that Bo Nix not looking his way? Is it
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: being scared to throw a ball if he's in a
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: little bit tighter coverage?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Is it? I don't know. But what I do know
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: is this. Jalen Waddell got open.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Why did Jalen Waddle have eight catches for 138 yards?
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you. Go back and look.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: How many of those were really tight coverage?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Well, the best throw that Bo had last week, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I can't recall what quarter it took place. Do you
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: remember that crossing pattern to Waddle where he was behind,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I think, the backer, and he wasn't open yet, but
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Bo threw him open over the middle of the field,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and he had to dive to make the catch.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: That little triangle in the middle of the field?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was just one of those throws that, wow.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I can't believe you threw it in there.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: And Waddle caught it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Well, it was just going back and remembering some of
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: the catches he made. It was that one.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: It was the one where he left the DB on
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: the ground. It was the big throw to the one-yard
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: line that Bo hit him on the run, which was
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: a beautiful throw. But again, in the NFL, that's open.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: That throw that he made, great throw. Jalen Waddle was open.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: He had like a step and a half on the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: guy behind him.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Well, you should make that throw.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Exactly what I'm saying.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yes.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, what I don't want to.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: The drive that sealed the game. And Waddle made the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: DB eat earth, right? There's no praise to Bo. Waddle's
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: just sitting out there.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, what's up, dude? And he just catches
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: it and falls down.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Well, if anything, Bo caught some heat because he threw
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it behind him and forced him to fall.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: He was so wide open. It was like Forrest Gump.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: When he sees Lieutenant Dan from the boat, he could
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: have stopped and went, done that and still.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Made the throw.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Pretty much.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Texture says pretty simple. Cortland Sutton isn't a number one
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: wide receiver. He needs someone else to take the attention.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: So hopefully this does open him up a bit.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: You know, I've always thought.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Cortland has always felt to me as far as the
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: number one wide receiver conversation.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Like he is. What do you call him?
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Most for a guy's. You're better than being a number two.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: But are you quite a number one? Like you're sort
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: of right.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: In the middle of that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Like sometimes you look like it and sometimes you don't.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: But I do think as Waddle continues to produce and
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: make plays, it should open things up for him to
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: especially be like in one-on-one situations, which you think perfect
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: example of a guy, Cortland Sutton, he's begging for a one-on-one.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Throw the ball up to him. Just don't underthrow him
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: near the pylon of the end zone.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was off your back foot.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, off your back foot.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Hey, look, man, I don't know what to expect this weekend.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I still keep looking at the silly matchup predictor, the analytics,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and all this kind of thing. It's got the Rams
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: about 64%, you know, that sort of thing. But do
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about the Rams' defense at all
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: against the Broncos' offense? Because right now, overall in the league,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: they're 7th. And in yards in the air, they're seventh.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: They're really good.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: They're a pretty damn good defense, even without Myles Garrett, right?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I think this is one thing we haven't talked about
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: really at all, the Rams defense against the Broncos offense.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: We've talked about how the secondary could try to neutralize
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Devontae Adams if he's the main weapon offensively for the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Rams through the air. But I don't know, man. They've
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: got a pretty good defense, too. And they spent money
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: on that defense and they traded to make that defense better.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: And so it's like, it's just a really good football team.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Forget about the San Francisco thing. Forget about the Kansas
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: city thing for both these teams. We're going to learn
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot more about both of them
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: probably coming through this game.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: It should be good.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: These are two of the best teams in the league.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: You're playing at home. You should have a really good
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: shot to win this game. It's not going to happen
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: without early offense, but, um, Talk more about this this week.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Here's what you got to do. I'm telling you, Vic,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: on the other side of the football, Jeff Legwald said it,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and I've been saying it all week long. You must
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: get to Matt Stafford. You must put Matthew Stafford in
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the dirt. You have to. He had zero sacks. He
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: took zero sacks. Even in that 27-7 loss to the Niners,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he was not sacked.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: What was last week? Was it once? I think he
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: had one.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: He was sacked one time.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Or at least hurry him to the point where he can't.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Exactly. You've got to get to him. I mean, if
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: you don't put him in the ground, that's fine, but
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you've got to put pressure on him, Vic, because when
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: he is upright and looking down the field, he is
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: going to pick you apart. And like Jeff just said,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: he's had people say to him, and he even believes it,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: this guy's one of the best throwers of the football
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: in a long, long, long time.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Well, they said ever, and they might be right on that.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe, because he really– At his advanced age, Vic, he
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: still throws the football as well as he ever has.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: You know, he loves using his tight ends, too. And
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: last week, he went to Terrence Ferguson. There was a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: particular drive. Ferguson dropped the ball and then came back
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and caught the touchdown pass. And you could tell Stafford was, like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: so happy that he made up for it. Ferguson's a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: kid from Denver, right? He attended, oh, God, what school
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in Denver? He was in studio with one of our shows.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I think it was Sanford, wasn't it?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I can't remember, let me look up what
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: school he went to in Denver. Terrence Ferguson. He's been
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: on the injury report this week.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: He went to Heritage.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, Heritage. He's been on the injury report this week.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: And that's something to keep an eye on. Because, again, Stanford.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: likes to use his tight ends a lot they.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Got five of them on the roster i know five
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: we thought the broncos had a lot plus.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: They have that one really big guy that former and
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: they line them up everywhere by the way if you
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: watch their games they'll put them in the slot they'll
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: put them in the backfield they'll put them wide.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Is such a weapon by the way to to be
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: able to have that many tight ends that you trust
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: and believe in um you know leggy talks about it
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: all the time but chad brown talks about it all
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: the time if you can have a consistent two tight
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: end set that's out there you have no tell the
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: defense has no idea are these bigger guys in because
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: you're trying to run the football is it play action
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: are you going to dump it off to them is
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: this all a decoy to hit somebody you don't.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: One thing about the tight end position that I was
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: not aware of until I read Seth's book, that Mike Shanahan,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: another reason why Mike belongs in the Hall of Fame,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: in the words of Sean Payton, quote, he said, Mike
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Shanahan split the atom in football. And he did so
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: by becoming the first coach to openly and often take
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: his tight end and split him like he did with
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp. It would force the opposing defense to reveal
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: what it's going to do, if it's zone or man.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And that little move of taking your tight end off
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and putting him out there opened
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: up a whole new box of plays for offensive coordinators.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Well, both the number one and the number two tight
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: ends for the Rams are both questionable right now. Ferguson
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: was limited with an ankle injury and Parkinson has a knee.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: So they, I think that, Ferguson did the walkthrough but limited,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and Parkinson didn't even participate yesterday.
• 31:29
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• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Get a fact checker next. All right, I just watched
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: two different movie trailers yesterday. One during the break and
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: one last night. I don't know the story behind, oh,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: what's the girl's name? I forget the girl's name. That's
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Elizabeth Holmes.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Is that her name?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Is that her name?
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: She's the one, the Silicon Valley chick who is going
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: to prison for fraud and stuff like that.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: She's kind of psycho, right, that one?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: There's that really popular video that's been going around of
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: her staring daggers into that guy.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I thought that was a movie.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: No, that's really her.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: That's a documentary. Correct.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I was like, wow, this actress is doing a great
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: job playing a psycho.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Turns out that chick's actually a psycho. So that's one.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: The other one is I just watched the John Madden
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: trailer where Nick Cage is playing John Madden. Christian Bale
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: is playing Al Davis.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I got to be honest with you. I can't do it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: It's like those guys are too famous to play these
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: kind of roles, and it kind of takes me out.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's almost where you need somebody. Whoever that guy
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: that played Kurt Warner in that Kurt Warner movie was
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: perfect because I didn't know who the hell he was,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and it just sort of fit the profile. It can't
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: be somebody you already know. It just can't.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Here's my problem. I watched the trailer. I don't feel
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: like I'm looking at John Madden. I feel like I'm
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: looking at Nick Cage in a fat suit.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's impossible. It's impossible to sound. Unless you
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: get Caliendo doing it, nobody can do John Madden's voice.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Although, you can't do it.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Although, I will say this. Remember that Lakers series that
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: was on HBO?
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: No.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Remember that winning time?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Is that what it was called?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: It was brilliant.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Why did that work? Like John C. Reilly played.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Jerry Buss.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Jerry Buss. And I'm like, this is fine.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: The famous guy with the nose that played Pat Reilly.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Who's that guy?
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Adrian Brody.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Adrian Brody. I was going to say Adam.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: He played Pat Reilly. So you had a lot of
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: famous people playing these roles.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Why did that work? And this is not working for me.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Because that show worked brilliantly.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I loved it. Did you guys see the movie Pressure?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: About the.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Leaning up to the D-Day invasion and the... No. The
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: weather and all that kind of stuff. Well, Brendan Fraser...
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: We all know who that is, right? Brendan Fraser? He
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: played Dwight Eisenhower.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: And?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: He doesn't look or sound like Dwight Eisenhower, but you...
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: You've got to sort of suspend that aspect of it
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: to get into it.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Gary Oldman, who I love, is very famous and a
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: very good actor. And he played Churchill in a movie.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: And I thought I was watching Churchill and not Gary Oldman.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: But I can't get over it. I'm watching Nick Cage
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: in this trailer and I go, that is not John Madden.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: That is Nick Cage in a fat suit. And I
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: don't think I'll ever be able to watch the movie
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: if that's the way that I feel. Even, Vic, when
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: I saw Christian Bale as Al Davis, I was like,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Christian Bale is in this movie? Christian Bale, the, I mean,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: thespian of all thespians, is playing Al Davis in a
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: movie about John Madden?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I forgot Moshe. Moshe just gave me the finger,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, why are you doing that?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Screw you, Bale.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: He doesn't like Christian Bale for personal reasons.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Correct. Should we remind people not to shatter his dreams?
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, don't shatter his dreams.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: He purposely insulted me.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Purposely.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I can't let that fly. Although I thought he was
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: awesome in Ford vs Ferrari. I don't know how insulting
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: he is going to make this a better segment.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Here's another perfect example. Christian Bale played Dick Cheney in
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: that movie Vice.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was very good.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: And he was great! Yeah, he was. I don't know.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: If you guys have seen it, I think you'll know
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: what I'm talking about. It's just I can't get over.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Nicolas Cage being John Madden.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I can't do it.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Name anybody on the planet that could pull that off.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's almost impossible.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Because John Madden is such a, he was such a
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: unique human being.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Who did the best, by the way, best portrayal of
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: famous person in movie?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I thought Will Smith played a great Muhammad Ali.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I thought he did all right.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to play that role. He did it
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: pretty damn well.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Very difficult.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: It's almost like his affectations on words were like a
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: little try-hardy for me.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I thought Jamie Foxx in Ray was awesome.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: He was really good.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Awesome.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I thought Daniel Day-Lewis' Lincoln was pretty good. Yeah.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was good.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I thought Eminem playing Eminem was superb.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Spot on.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: How do.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: You think he prepared for the role? Followed himself for
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: a month?
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: What do you think about Remy Malek playing Freddie Mercury?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was one of the best movies. I thought
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: he was really good.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: My wife loves that movie. I thought that movie was terrible,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: and I thought he was terrible. Really?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Yes. I thought he was good.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I thought he was fantabulous. I think you're stupid.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: You just don't like Queen music. That's fine.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I'm also not a fan of his in general.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Okay. He's in the Michael B.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Jordan category of you are, I can tell that you're
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: acting actor.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: After that movie, no other movie he's done have I liked,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: but that particular movie was outstanding.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't like it. Didn't like it. And I love Queen.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Love him.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, Stallone playing Rocky.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: That's one I never watched ever.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: And I should, I've always wanted to, I just haven't
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: said walking Phoenix is Johnny cash. I didn't watch walk
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: the line.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: He was pretty, he was pretty good.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: What was the movie we kept referencing on this show?
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Georgia, Georgia, Sammy. Yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: That was a TV show.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: That was, that was, that was like a mini series.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had, I had to watch the first episode
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: because I lost.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: What are some other ones? Um, Oh, this would have
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: been good. Somebody said Walter Goggins should have been Al Davis.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: That would have been awesome. That would have.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Fit it perfectly. Uncle Baby Billy. You're so right.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: He would have fit it perfectly.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: He sort of has that slick look about him already.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Like that slick, greasy look.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Greasy.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: That's what it is.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: It's greasy. He's got that already. Why didn't they think
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Because you can't do John Madden's voice perfectly. It's impossible.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know how long it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Took Caliendo to get that down, but it's really hard.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: All right, you can't answer for yourself. Everybody else has
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: to answer for you. Who plays who in a movie
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: on this show?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Kevin James playing the role of Sean Payton was a
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: bit of a stretch.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Brett, who's that guy in Yellowstone? The guy in Yellowstone?
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Jimmy.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: That's who'd play you. We've already established this.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: That's an insult.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Either that or Carson Wentz plays the role.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Carson Wentz is not an actor.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Or Prince Harry.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: This isn't just who looks like you.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I think Brad Pitt would be a good Mosher.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: You know what I would love? I would love for
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Christian Bale to play Mosher. Yeah, I don't think so.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: I don't see it. I don't see it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: You guys are just playing the red-headed game.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: That's all you're doing.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I want you to cock your head like that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: It's not even.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: close.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Open your eyes a little bit more. Open your eyes.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: What do you mean? His eyes are barely open.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: That's not even close. Twins.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: He's just red-headed. Look at his chin and my chin.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Nothing.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Identical.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Not even close.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Hang on.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: So who plays Vic?
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Danny DeVito.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the easy way to go. That's
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: not even creative.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Nelly, can you chat GPT it and see what the.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that AI can do some facial recognition similarity thing.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Do that for everybody on the show and see what
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: it comes up with.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let me just go to my facial analyzer here
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: and pull that up in the last two minutes of
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: the show.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Are you mocking him?
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Well, I would never besmirch your better half, Vic. So
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: the 2261 from Texas.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: All right, fine.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: You know what? Nelly gets Lyle Lovett. Perfect. Perfect.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: He's a singer, though. He's not an actor, is he?
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, singers are actors. Actors are singers.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: The 2261 from Texas says, what's the deal with Christian
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Bale versus Mosier? I'll tell you what the deal is.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Some years ago. We were talking about– Vic went to
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: do the junket for Ford versus Ferrari, so we had
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: a sit-down interview. What are you doing? That's pretty good.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: To do a sit-down interview with Christian Bale and Matt Damon.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And I said, I'm better looking than Matt Damon. Remember
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: that before he left? And so Vic had a picture,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and he starts out the interview with a picture of
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: me and says, my co-host says he looks like Matt Damon,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: which is not what I said. And then Christian Bale
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: jumped all over my ass. He don't look anything like
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Matt Damon. I'm like, I didn't say that, Bale. And
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: then he says, if he wants to believe that, let
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: him believe that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Don't shatter his dreams.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Just a smarmy, snarky Bale.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: He was being nice to you.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Don't shatter his dreams.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: This is actually really good.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: And Damon just played dumb the entire time.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Nelly, Charlie Day, I could see it. I could see
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Charlie Day being a Nelly.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I don't even know who that is.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: He's Charlie from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. He's in
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Horrible Bosses.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that guy. Yeah, that guy could be a Nelly.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: I do lots of the Charlie work for the show.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: You do? Yes, you do Charlie work.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Good stuff.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Philip Seymour Hoffman for Mosher.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: He's dead. I thought Mosher was more of like a
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Roseanne Barr.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Nailed it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: You can't unsee it now, can you?
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: No, you're right. You're right, Vic. It's going to be
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: stuck in my head for now. So hang on, hang on.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: My character is Jimmy from Yellowstone. Nelly is Charlie Day.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Vic is Danny DeVito. And Mosier is Roseanne. That's a
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: real who's who of Hollywood. Let me tell you.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: You guys are idiots. Absolute idiots. Oh, God.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. 303-504-0925.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Hey, so tomorrow, Nelly, it's... Are we going to have
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: a recap of last week's lay it down tomorrow?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Are we?
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: I already have it edited and it will be in
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Jesse Trujillo's capable hands.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Okay. So that's good.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Nelly's going to be out tomorrow. Alfonso will be in
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Jesse Trujillo. So that's good. Um, but I, Nelly, tell him,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: tell him what was so crazy about my lay it
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: down last week.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Well, why don't you just wait for tomorrow and we
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: do the recap. You're so antsy to always talk about
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: your picks.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: You want to do it like the first segment of
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Monday's show you wanted to talk about.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: But I was a winner. I was a winner.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: Well, here, I'll try to do it in the style
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: of one of these national radio teases that you like.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: I'll say Mosher got three of his predictions correct, and
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: the one that he got wrong is not the one
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: you'd expect. So tune in tomorrow at 9.30 to hear that.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: But hang on a second.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: The whole thing with the bit of you getting your
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: music or not is nobody's supposed to know until we
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: play the recap.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, we've already talked about it. And all you want
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: to do is bring up picks that you got right.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: No, homie, I've already mentioned it many times that I.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, you shouldn't.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: It's part of the bit. You wait for the next
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Friday to see the recap, like, does he get it
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: or not?
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Because what's the point of the recap if you tell
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: everybody all week?
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Okay. Anyway, fact checker, please.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's Fact Checker. Fact Checker.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Presented by Backus & Shanker. Serious lawyers for the seriously injured.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Eh, Fact Checker, Fact Schmecker, I'm already in vacation mode.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: Here's a fact. The sweatshirt that Brett's wearing looks like
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: one of those little vials where they give you soy
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: sauce at a Chinese restaurant.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, it does, yes!
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: You must have a tea time today to be dressed
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know what it looks like, Nelly? The little
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: plates they give you, like, for dim sum? You know
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Why do you always give it away with the days
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you're playing? Maybe come a little more incognito next time.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Because I'm not going to change clothes. I always put
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: a tea time right after the show.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: As soon as I walked in, I go, playing golf today.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: He goes, yep.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Why do you guys care?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I think you guys play too much golf.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Me? I'm playing today, too.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: The winner, by the way, who is going to the
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: home opener, the season opener for the Avs, is Janelle Bennett.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: So congratulations to Janelle.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: You are in the building.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Next Wednesday night.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Look at Coach here early. This is amazing.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: What a day. Spotify, Mojo Lombardi and Kane. Have a wonderful,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: wonderful Thursday. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Love you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: See you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Love you.