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- 0:03Speaker 1: Does Patrick Mahomes really need more weapons? Well he got
- 0:06Speaker 1: another one.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Rookie tight end Jared Wiley among the first year players
- 0:10Speaker 2: and quarterbacks working out at Chiefs training camp in.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Saint Joseph, Missouri.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Meanwhile in Houston, the full Texans squad out there for
- 0:18Speaker 2: the second consecutive day, led onto the field by C. J. Stroud,
- 0:22Speaker 2: All thirty two teams reporting the training camp in the
- 0:26Speaker 2: next five days. We've already reported for duty.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Here.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Steve Watch, I am
- 0:35Speaker 2: Tom Pellisero, jam packed Friday night show for you. Jermaine Johnson,
- 0:39Speaker 2: Jets defensive end, going to join the show, his thoughts
- 0:42Speaker 2: on that Jets defense, Aaron Rodgers, and a whole lot more.
- 0:47Speaker 2: We got the AFC West State of the franchise. As
- 0:50Speaker 2: that series continues here, we're going to continue to put
- 0:53Speaker 2: together a flag football.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Team to the Olympics. Why not, it's four years away.
- 0:57Speaker 1: We got to get planning.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Folks will talk Panthers, We'll talk a whole lot of
- 1:01Speaker 2: other teams, but let's talk right now about the full
- 1:03Speaker 2: squad that reported today.
- 1:05Speaker 1: That is the Chicago Bears.
- 1:07Speaker 2: And I can never get enough of these shots of
- 1:10Speaker 2: the players coming in, you're checking out. I mainly look
- 1:13Speaker 2: at the cars, Steve and making sure they blurred all
- 1:15Speaker 2: the license plates.
- 1:16Speaker 3: We don't want any trouble.
- 1:17Speaker 1: There is anyone gonna show up in overalls.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Oy Caleb Williams, as far as I'm aware, no overalls
- 1:24Speaker 2: for him, but he did get a chance to speak
- 1:25Speaker 2: with those lovely reporters in Chicago.
- 1:29Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that we're all starting from the same
- 1:31Speaker 4: spot because there's guys like Keenan where he he you know,
- 1:34Speaker 4: he came in and you know, I May We were
- 1:36Speaker 4: in the hotel together for a while and and and
- 1:41Speaker 4: we'd be sitting down just you know, eating dinner and
- 1:43Speaker 4: playing cards and then we'd you know, have a break
- 1:46Speaker 4: and we rattle off some plays. And that was when
- 1:48Speaker 4: I was first learning and and and he kind of
- 1:51Speaker 4: have like an idea of what the play was. So
- 1:53Speaker 4: it's nice having you know, people like that around, you know,
- 1:56Speaker 4: a couple of vets, and I know it helps rooms
- 1:58Speaker 4: have people like that around to where it's you know,
- 2:00Speaker 4: when you get out there, he's teaching you movements, he's
- 2:03Speaker 4: teaching you how you know works in the NFL.
- 2:05Speaker 5: Have people behind me. Brett Brett Tyson.
- 2:08Speaker 4: They've played, they've been in it, they've been with other
- 2:10Speaker 4: you know, great, great quarterbacks.
- 2:11Speaker 5: So it's only helping. But you know, we're really excited.
- 2:16Speaker 2: The bar is certainly high for the number one overall
- 2:19Speaker 2: pick of the Chicago Bears. Caleb Williams steve the bar
- 2:22Speaker 2: very low for Bears quarterbacks historically, over all the past
- 2:27Speaker 2: sixty years or so, it's been certainly a motley crew.
- 2:30Speaker 2: This now is what Kayleb Williams is walking into a
- 2:32Speaker 2: better situation that we've seen for a lot of number
- 2:35Speaker 2: one picks through the years, with all the additions that
- 2:38Speaker 2: they made, the weaponry they put around him, also the
- 2:40Speaker 2: defense that they have with Matt Eberflus here, what are
- 2:44Speaker 2: your expectations, What do you be watching for as Caleb
- 2:47Speaker 2: Williams and the Bears get out there as a whole
- 2:49Speaker 2: on the practice field starting tomorrow.
- 2:50Speaker 6: Well, I love Matt Eberflus came out today and said
- 2:53Speaker 6: he's gonna play between forty five and fifty five snaps
- 2:55Speaker 6: in preseason games. Remember they have four preseason games because
- 2:59Speaker 6: they're playing in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Game,
- 3:01Speaker 6: And this could be something where we see him even
- 3:03Speaker 6: in that game, get a series or two, and then
- 3:06Speaker 6: you double it the next game. In a third preseason game,
- 3:09Speaker 6: you let him play a half and maybe start the
- 3:11Speaker 6: third quarter, and then you sit him for that final
- 3:13Speaker 6: preseason game. But I think that will get him everything
- 3:17Speaker 6: from getting used to stretch lines, to stadiums to everything.
- 3:20Speaker 6: The little quirtch we don't necessarily think about kind of
- 3:23Speaker 6: that go with the game itself.
- 3:24Speaker 7: That'll get him ready. Tom and I think it's very important.
- 3:26Speaker 6: In the preseason with the Bears, with this improved roster,
- 3:30Speaker 6: getting him ready to start Week one.
- 3:32Speaker 2: They got an experienced play caller in Shane Walders came
- 3:35Speaker 2: over there from Saley's worked with different types of quarterbacks
- 3:38Speaker 2: through the years. He's got a lot of weapons around him.
- 3:40Speaker 2: When you look at the Keenan Allen acquisition, when you
- 3:43Speaker 2: look at DJ Moore still being there in Roe Madoonsa
- 3:45Speaker 2: and signing DeAndre Swift cold the Bears seemed to draft
- 3:48Speaker 2: the tight end every year for like a decade. The
- 3:50Speaker 2: table is set here, but again, the expectations will be high,
- 3:54Speaker 2: even though that bar is low.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Exactly how low.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Here's the Bears quarterbacks in the Super Bowl era, Literally
- 4:01Speaker 2: the worst overall there's been some positive moments. Josh McCown
- 4:06Speaker 2: had a pretty decent run for like half of the
- 4:08Speaker 2: twenty thirteen season.
- 4:09Speaker 1: I mean Jay Cutler.
- 4:10Speaker 2: They made a run with Jay Cutler. They went to
- 4:12Speaker 2: a super Bowl with Rex Scrozman. This is where that's true.
- 4:18Speaker 2: This is what Cayleb Williams now is walking into. You
- 4:21Speaker 2: know what was experienced, Well, not quite the entire super
- 4:25Speaker 2: Bowl era of Bears quarterbacks, but certainly a good chunk
- 4:28Speaker 2: of it. Our buddy Adam Rank, who often appears on
- 4:31Speaker 2: this show.
- 4:32Speaker 1: To talk fantasy football.
- 4:34Speaker 2: He's going to be back to do the AFC West
- 4:36Speaker 2: State of the Franchise later on. He's a brilliant analyst
- 4:40Speaker 2: of the game. But in this moment, Rank, if we
- 4:43Speaker 2: welcome you into the show, I just want you to
- 4:45Speaker 2: put on your Bear's super fan hat for a moment.
- 4:48Speaker 2: You've waited a long time for what looks like potentially
- 4:53Speaker 2: the face of the franchise quarterback they have not had
- 4:56Speaker 2: in your lifetime. As you say them rhyming seem arrivy.
- 5:01Speaker 2: You see him hitting the practice field tomorrow, What are
- 5:03Speaker 2: the emotions like? What's going through your body and your
- 5:06Speaker 2: brain right now?
- 5:07Speaker 8: First of all, this is very unfair to Jim McMahon,
- 5:10Speaker 8: who was a very good quarterback who won a Super Bowl. Obviously,
- 5:13Speaker 8: Jay Cutler had some fine times, and then it's Walter
- 5:16Speaker 8: Payton on the halfback option, the three best Bears quarterbacks
- 5:19Speaker 8: in my lifetime. The one thing that I really appreciate
- 5:22Speaker 8: about what the Bears have done with Caleb Williams so
- 5:24Speaker 8: far is that he comes into camp with no competition.
- 5:27Speaker 8: Remember a couple of years ago, when Mitch Trubisky was there,
- 5:30Speaker 8: they had signed Mike Glennon and they did the song
- 5:32Speaker 8: and dance with them. When Justin Field was brought in,
- 5:35Speaker 8: they had Andy Dalton on the team, and again it
- 5:37Speaker 8: was well, we're going to sort of work him in.
- 5:39Speaker 8: They didn't really have a plan. There has been a
- 5:41Speaker 8: plan since day one for Caleb Williams, and the plan
- 5:45Speaker 8: was to get him on the field as quickly as
- 5:47Speaker 8: possible and surround him with the most talent that's ever
- 5:50Speaker 8: surrounded a number one overall draft pick. So I think
- 5:54Speaker 8: that the expectations should be a little bit higher because
- 5:57Speaker 8: I think that people tend to forget this Bears team
- 6:00Speaker 8: won seven.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Games last year.
- 6:01Speaker 8: They didn't have the number one pick because they were awful.
- 6:04Speaker 8: It was because Carolina was awful. Now they've got a
- 6:06Speaker 8: great opportunity to go out there and make some noise.
- 6:09Speaker 8: And in addition to those seven wins, they had three
- 6:13Speaker 8: losses where they had over a ninety percent chance of winning.
- 6:16Speaker 8: It didn't work out for them. We should have high expectations,
- 6:19Speaker 8: and I say we as a collective, not just Bears fans,
- 6:22Speaker 8: but fans of the NFL in general, because this Bears
- 6:24Speaker 8: team is going to hit the ground running.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Jim McMahon undefeated as the Bears starting quarterback in nineteen
- 6:30Speaker 2: eighty five when he happened to be playing with the
- 6:32Speaker 2: greatest running back of all time and probably the greatest
- 6:34Speaker 2: defense of all time.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Nothing against Jim McMahon.
- 6:36Speaker 2: He started sixty one games total for Chicago. I would
- 6:40Speaker 2: certainly think that they're going to try to hit the
- 6:42Speaker 2: over with Caleb Williams Rank, We'll be coming back to
- 6:44Speaker 2: you on this story a whole lot more, but stick around.
- 6:46Speaker 1: You're gonna be with us later on in the show.
- 6:48Speaker 2: There's also another rookie quarterback in the NFC North who
- 6:51Speaker 2: now is officially under contract. That is JJ McCarthy, who
- 6:55Speaker 2: agreed to terms today with the Minnesota Vikings on his
- 6:58Speaker 2: fully guaranteed four year contract with a fifty year option
- 7:02Speaker 2: in plenty of time before the Vikings rookies report to
- 7:06Speaker 2: camp on Sunday. JJ McCarthy Steve walks into a situation
- 7:10Speaker 2: where he's not the unquestioned starter like Caleb William. It's
- 7:14Speaker 2: not a certainty that he's out there in Week one.
- 7:17Speaker 2: But when you trade up even one spot and you
- 7:20Speaker 2: go and get a guy in the top ten at quarterback,
- 7:23Speaker 2: everyone knows JJ McCarthy's time is coming. That competition with
- 7:27Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, who started a bunch of games for a
- 7:30Speaker 2: bunch of teams, will be one of the fascinating storylines
- 7:33Speaker 2: following camp.
- 7:33Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look and the meter is running. Like
- 7:35Speaker 6: you said, he drafts a quarterback dot high. He's going
- 7:37Speaker 6: to be the starter at one time and at one
- 7:39Speaker 6: point this season. But head coach Kevin O'Connell came out
- 7:41Speaker 6: and said, you can't write it necessarily down as to
- 7:44Speaker 6: when that's going to happen.
- 7:46Speaker 1: It is more of a field thing.
- 7:48Speaker 7: So of course in training camp it's.
- 7:49Speaker 6: Going to be how much does McCarthy take to the offense,
- 7:51Speaker 6: how much does he understand opposing coverages, how much does
- 7:54Speaker 6: he understand the protection plan. But more than anything, and
- 7:58Speaker 6: this goes overlooked a lot of time times, is how
- 8:01Speaker 6: do the other ten guys in the huddle respond to him?
- 8:05Speaker 6: If all of a sudden there's a little more bounce
- 8:06Speaker 6: in their step over and over like okay, then maybe
- 8:09Speaker 6: you accelerate getting him on the field, like this is
- 8:12Speaker 6: the guy we feel comfortable with.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Right.
- 8:14Speaker 6: You saw that when the Niners put in Rock Purty,
- 8:16Speaker 6: they played a different style of football than they played
- 8:19Speaker 6: with Jimmy Garoppolo.
- 8:20Speaker 7: That's when you understood that he was a guy they
- 8:22Speaker 7: feel comfortable with.
- 8:23Speaker 6: And I think that's what Kevin O'Connell, the head coach
- 8:25Speaker 6: of the Vikings again, is going to be really factoring
- 8:27Speaker 6: into when it's time to pull the plug on.
- 8:30Speaker 7: Darnold and to put JJ McCarthy in the starting line.
- 8:33Speaker 2: One of the questions on JJ McCarthy coming on in
- 8:35Speaker 2: the draft, of course, was well, why didn't they throw
- 8:37Speaker 2: the football more? They were a run dominant team, they
- 8:39Speaker 2: didn't have to pass the ball a lot. He impressed
- 8:42Speaker 2: a lot of people with what he did is pro day.
- 8:44Speaker 2: The fact that he slung it the way that he
- 8:46Speaker 2: did played his way into being a guy who nobody
- 8:48Speaker 2: would have had as a first round prospect probably going
- 8:51Speaker 2: into this season, ends up a top ten pick, is
- 8:54Speaker 2: certainly going to have a lot of eyes on him
- 8:57Speaker 2: in camp in Minnesota. Meanwhile, a couple picks later, Bonnette
- 9:00Speaker 2: became a Denver Bronco. That was really not a surprise
- 9:03Speaker 2: to a lot of people within the league, who said,
- 9:05Speaker 2: fifty two careers starts the son of a coach. He's
- 9:07Speaker 2: going to do exactly what Sean Payton tells him to do.
- 9:09Speaker 2: It's the perfect fit in Denver. Nick said recently that
- 9:13Speaker 2: he expects a and I quote very respectful competition with
- 9:17Speaker 2: Zach Wilson and Jared Stidham. Respectfully, it's hard to imagine
- 9:22Speaker 2: this competition doesn't go in the direction in Nix.
- 9:24Speaker 1: It's respectful right now.
- 9:25Speaker 6: In off season workouts, hey guys, and thanks for the
- 9:27Speaker 6: help this and I really appreciate you. I'm going to
- 9:29Speaker 6: pick up after you. You pick up after me. Now
- 9:31Speaker 6: it's time for somebody to go get it. And Bo Nicks,
- 9:34Speaker 6: you were drafted to go get this job.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Now.
- 9:37Speaker 6: You hear a lot of people say that Zach Wilson
- 9:39Speaker 6: really looked good in offseason workouts as he should have.
- 9:42Speaker 6: He's got veteran experience, he's got incredible talent, But this
- 9:45Speaker 6: is a young player that Sean Payton wants to build
- 9:46Speaker 6: his team around.
- 9:47Speaker 7: So we're going to see how this competition goes.
- 9:50Speaker 6: Because as much as you know that there's still kind
- 9:52Speaker 6: of a grace period as to what they're going to
- 9:54Speaker 6: do with the Broncos, Sean Payton has to win ball games,
- 9:57Speaker 6: right people, Nothing's going to get fired, but at some
- 10:00Speaker 6: point people are going to say in New Orleans, was
- 10:02Speaker 6: it Breeze or was it Peyton? If Sean Payton doesn't
- 10:05Speaker 6: continue to win ball game. So I think this is
- 10:07Speaker 6: a situation where he's going to put the best person
- 10:09Speaker 6: in but bo Nick is the guy they're going to
- 10:11Speaker 6: groom to get in there. So that respectful competition might
- 10:15Speaker 6: get disrespectful pretty soon.
- 10:16Speaker 2: And they've been in a transition phase through the course
- 10:18Speaker 2: of the Soft Seed and you trade away Jerry Judy,
- 10:21Speaker 2: John Cortland Sutton who still wants a new contract, and
- 10:23Speaker 2: that situation remains to be resolved here as we lead
- 10:27Speaker 2: up to the reporting date for training camp next week,
- 10:29Speaker 2: they've got a lot of young guys that they're excited about.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Ly one of Bonex's former college teammates. They've invested in
- 10:34Speaker 2: that position, but who emerges as the pass catchers is
- 10:37Speaker 2: going to be certainly one of the big storylines as
- 10:40Speaker 2: we talk about the Broncos moving forward. Meanwhile, another contract
- 10:43Speaker 2: situation that remains unresolved is in Green Bay, where Jordan
- 10:48Speaker 2: Love Well to this point, has not gotten a new
- 10:50Speaker 2: deal to replace the one year that's left on the
- 10:53Speaker 2: Bridge Deal, the band aid deal that he signed last
- 10:56Speaker 2: year to avert the Packers having to exercise his fifty option.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Reporters tried to ask Jordan love at his charity event
- 11:04Speaker 2: last week, a pr guy who doesn't understand that the
- 11:07Speaker 2: media shows up to those events so that they can
- 11:09Speaker 2: get off one question about football topics jumped in would
- 11:12Speaker 2: and let him answer it. The answers, though, Steve, are
- 11:14Speaker 2: going to come soon. It's not a matter of if
- 11:17Speaker 2: the Packers get something done with Jordan Love, it's a
- 11:19Speaker 2: matter of when. And the price is about as high
- 11:22Speaker 2: as you could possibly have bet.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:23Speaker 6: Look, this is a guy who waited a long time
- 11:25Speaker 6: to start, so waiting to get this deal done is
- 11:27Speaker 6: something he's probably like, Okay, it's going to get done,
- 11:29Speaker 6: like you said, Tom, But it is the number.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Is he going to get one of.
- 11:32Speaker 6: These crazy fifty million dollars a year plus APY contracts
- 11:37Speaker 6: that's kind of the going rate in three or four
- 11:39Speaker 6: years from now. That may be kind of a bargain
- 11:41Speaker 6: floor rate, a middle of the market rate. So he's
- 11:44Speaker 6: probably going to get something like that because he proved
- 11:46Speaker 6: over the back half of the last season that the
- 11:48Speaker 6: investment that they have made in him in terms of
- 11:51Speaker 6: developing him and sticking with him to replace Aaron Rodgers,
- 11:55Speaker 6: was worth it. And he is the reason why and
- 11:57Speaker 6: what we saw at the end of last year and
- 11:59Speaker 6: how he to b is why the Green Bay Packers
- 12:02Speaker 6: are going to be in the playoff conversation all season
- 12:04Speaker 6: long because they have pieces in place, including Tom a
- 12:08Speaker 6: group of young receivers and tight ends.
- 12:10Speaker 3: Who he's come up with.
- 12:12Speaker 6: I mean that kind of growth period together with his
- 12:14Speaker 6: receiving targets, along some of the running backs that they have.
- 12:17Speaker 6: With Josh Jacobs coming over, they've got pieces in place
- 12:20Speaker 6: to support him.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Also had Marshawn Lloyd in the draft, they got j
- 12:23Speaker 2: Dillon back. Every wide receiver and tight end on the
- 12:26Speaker 2: team last year was a rookie or a second year player.
- 12:28Speaker 2: And those guys delivered down the stretch. Another year of experience,
- 12:32Speaker 2: another year for Jordan Love. This is a situation where
- 12:35Speaker 2: the player has the leverage. The price is only going
- 12:38Speaker 2: to go up if he continues to do what he's doing.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Let's see if they can come to it accord prior
- 12:42Speaker 2: to training camp so that everybody can turn their full
- 12:45Speaker 2: attention to.
- 12:45Speaker 1: The regular season.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Meanwhile, a veteran player got a deal with a new
- 12:50Speaker 2: team Earlier today, The Ravens agreed to terms on a
- 12:54Speaker 2: one year deal with former Bears All Pro safety Eddie Jackson.
- 12:58Speaker 2: He was released back in Fibruary. Thirty years old at
- 13:01Speaker 2: this point, but you know, the Ravens like those veterans
- 13:04Speaker 2: in their secondary. Now they add another one. Meanwhile, a
- 13:08Speaker 2: longtime NFL running back is called it quits. Kenyon Drake,
- 13:12Speaker 2: who ran for over thirty eight hundred yards, announced today
- 13:15Speaker 2: that he is retiring. He was part of this play,
- 13:19Speaker 2: one of the wildest in NFL history, from Devonte Parker
- 13:23Speaker 2: to Kenyan Drake.
- 13:24Speaker 1: He fakes the pitch and then outruns.
- 13:26Speaker 2: Wait is that Patriots safety Rob Gronkowski.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Stumbling to try to get him at the goal line.
- 13:33Speaker 2: A sixty nine yard walk off win back in twenty eighteen,
- 13:39Speaker 2: Kenyon Drake walking away always though a part of Miami.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Lore Football is back.
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- 14:02Speaker 2: required for NFL Plus. The Jaguars among those teams rolling
- 14:08Speaker 2: back in in the coming days. But can Trevor Lawrence
- 14:11Speaker 2: be rolling without the guy catching all the passes in
- 14:13Speaker 2: this highlight, Cliff Calvin Ridley.
- 14:15Speaker 1: He's now a Titan, still in the.
- 14:16Speaker 2: Division, Lawrence has some new pass catchers. Camp Wolf help
- 14:19Speaker 2: us break down things in Jacksonville. Next on The Insiders,
- 14:29Speaker 2: the Flight Football Championships are underway in Canton, Ohio. Don't
- 14:32Speaker 2: miss the action all weekend long. Nearly three hundred regional
- 14:36Speaker 2: squads are competing in this first of its kind tournament,
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- 14:45Speaker 2: games and much more. Not that long until the Jaguars
- 14:50Speaker 2: are playing some games. Trevor Lawrence's hair already in mid
- 14:54Speaker 2: season form.
- 14:55Speaker 1: But will that offense that was a bumpy of.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Times last year be able to hit the ground as
- 15:00Speaker 2: they report to camp for answers on that. Let's welcome
- 15:03Speaker 2: in our Cam Wolf alongside me, Tom Pelisero here on
- 15:07Speaker 2: the Insiders Cam Jaguars rookies reporting to the building today, obviously,
- 15:11Speaker 2: so the quarterbacks also.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Making their way in.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Tell me about these young guys and who potentially can
- 15:16Speaker 2: help out Trevor Lawrence in twenty twenty four.
- 15:19Speaker 9: Yeah, Tom, let's start with Brian Thomas Junior. I can't
- 15:22Speaker 9: wait to see him in training camp. He's their first
- 15:24Speaker 9: round big and he's got a big opportunity to replace
- 15:27Speaker 9: the role vacated by Calvin Ridley. Remember Ridley had that
- 15:31Speaker 9: last minute switch to go to the Tennessee Titaness, their
- 15:33Speaker 9: division rival, and that's over one thousand yards seventy six
- 15:37Speaker 9: receptions out of the door, and Brian Thomas has an
- 15:40Speaker 9: opportunity to get that role very quickly. Trevor Lawrence loves
- 15:44Speaker 9: to throw the deep ball, and it just so happens
- 15:47Speaker 9: that Brian Thomas one of his best skill sets is
- 15:49Speaker 9: creating vertical separation down the field.
- 15:52Speaker 7: I talk with coaches this all season.
- 15:53Speaker 9: They discussed how everything they saw on tape at LSU
- 15:57Speaker 9: has shown up early in OTAs his speed, his ability
- 16:00Speaker 9: to separate, and I can't wait to see him pass
- 16:03Speaker 9: going against number one defenses in training camp. I was
- 16:06Speaker 9: at LSU's pro day where everybody was talking about Melik
- 16:09Speaker 9: Neighbors and Jaye Daniels, and I had one GM just
- 16:11Speaker 9: rating to me about Brian Thomas.
- 16:13Speaker 7: He said, I see Brandon Iyuk in this game. I
- 16:16Speaker 7: think what he can.
- 16:17Speaker 9: Do in the NFL is a lot more than what
- 16:19Speaker 9: he was asked to do in LSU, and he can
- 16:21Speaker 9: be a number one receiver sooner than later. And tom
- 16:25Speaker 9: last thing, I talked to one Jaguars coach about Brian Thomas.
- 16:28Speaker 9: He had one nugget of constructive quitter's criticism. He said,
- 16:30Speaker 9: I want him to be more vocal. He's been so smart,
- 16:33Speaker 9: he's getting so much, but he's quiet. And I don't
- 16:35Speaker 9: know about you, tom My. Coaches and teachers had the
- 16:38Speaker 9: opposite complain about me. They said I wouldn't shut up,
- 16:41Speaker 9: and I was less than one percent of the talent
- 16:43Speaker 9: that Brian Thomas was, So I think he'll be all right.
- 16:45Speaker 2: And here's the thing that was a real comparison that
- 16:48Speaker 2: I heard the same thing through the course of the process,
- 16:51Speaker 2: which was if you just look at the measurables on
- 16:52Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, you look at Brian Thomas's highlight reel, it
- 16:56Speaker 2: arguably is as good or better than Malik Neighbors. But
- 16:58Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors was the in that program. He was the
- 17:01Speaker 2: one who wanted the ball. He was the emotional leader.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Brian Thomas the play was up and down. He didn't
- 17:06Speaker 2: always see him exude that type of passion. So it'd
- 17:09Speaker 2: be fascinating to see how the dynamics kind of work out,
- 17:11Speaker 2: especially because there is a big void for somebody to
- 17:13Speaker 2: step forward as that number one wide receiver. Meanwhile, Trevor Lawrence,
- 17:17Speaker 2: we know he got paid, he got the fifty five
- 17:19Speaker 2: million dollars per year. His own play has been inconsistent
- 17:22Speaker 2: at times. The Jaguars offense didn't play well down the
- 17:25Speaker 2: stretch last season. Heading into twenty twenty four, Cam, what
- 17:28Speaker 2: are they looking for out.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Of Trevor Lawrence.
- 17:30Speaker 7: Yeah, big money.
- 17:31Speaker 9: Trevor comes with big expectations, and look, that's the reality
- 17:35Speaker 9: of their situation, the perils of pressure and expectations. Jaguars
- 17:39Speaker 9: fans expect them to get back to where they were
- 17:41Speaker 9: in twenty twenty two. The highlight of the Trevor Lawrence
- 17:44Speaker 9: and Doug Peterson are in that second half of the
- 17:46Speaker 9: season where they made the playoff one, they won a
- 17:49Speaker 9: playoff game, and last year they took a step back.
- 17:52Speaker 9: They collapsed late in the season, and so Trevor Lawrence
- 17:55Speaker 9: has talked about that and he said, I accepted as
- 17:57Speaker 9: the franchise quarterback. I don't feel any extra pressure. But
- 18:00Speaker 9: the one thing he does need to work on is
- 18:02Speaker 9: his turnovers. He's had sixty turnovers in his first three seasons,
- 18:06Speaker 9: most of any quarterback. And while he's shown a lot
- 18:08Speaker 9: of potential he's a really good quarterback. To get to
- 18:11Speaker 9: that great level with some of the elite quarterbacks that we.
- 18:14Speaker 7: Talk about all the time, those turnovers have to take
- 18:17Speaker 7: a dip.
- 18:18Speaker 9: And talking to the people in that building, they believe
- 18:20Speaker 9: sometimes it's just him being a superhero trying to do
- 18:23Speaker 9: too much at times, and they hope this year with
- 18:25Speaker 9: him being more vocal in the offense, being more comfortable
- 18:29Speaker 9: and having more experience than he can take the safer
- 18:31Speaker 9: route at times. Remember Trevor's not even twenty five yet
- 18:34Speaker 9: so even though he's big money, he's still learning and
- 18:37Speaker 9: they thinking you're four, he can elevate and see that
- 18:39Speaker 9: next level of his game. I can't wait to get
- 18:42Speaker 9: to do Vault because one early thing to watch will
- 18:44Speaker 9: be his chemistry with those receivers Brian Thomas as we discussed,
- 18:48Speaker 9: but also Gabe Davis.
- 18:49Speaker 7: Coming in filling in as well.
- 18:50Speaker 9: How early do they click with those two fast outside receivers.
- 18:54Speaker 9: We know he's going to be throwing the ball to
- 18:56Speaker 9: Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram, but those other two that
- 18:58Speaker 9: could be the key to unlocking how far is Jaguars
- 19:01Speaker 9: team can go and if they can steal that division
- 19:03Speaker 9: back from the Houston Texans, who.
- 19:05Speaker 7: Have had a lot of hype this offseason.
- 19:06Speaker 1: Cam stick around.
- 19:07Speaker 2: We're going to talk with you about another former number
- 19:10Speaker 2: one overall pick in just a little bit. But first
- 19:12Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit about another highly drafted quarterback
- 19:15Speaker 2: from a year ago. That is Anthony Richardson of the
- 19:18Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, who made four starts as a rookie last season,
- 19:23Speaker 2: got injured in three of them. Season ended he had
- 19:25Speaker 2: shoulder surgery. Everything seemed to be heading into the right direction.
- 19:29Speaker 2: Did miss the last day of mini camp. Sounds like
- 19:31Speaker 2: they just threw a ton of balls the day before
- 19:33Speaker 2: decided to hold him back. Richardson said himself that he's
- 19:37Speaker 2: been feeling really good as we get set to head
- 19:39Speaker 2: into training camp.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Here, Steve Anthony Richardson, year two.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Job one obviously, don't take those hits, stay on the front.
- 19:46Speaker 2: What else can he do if he accomplishes job one?
- 19:49Speaker 6: Well, first off, you know, Chris ballad general manager, said
- 19:51Speaker 6: he's going to be a full go when they start
- 19:52Speaker 6: training camp, So that's a good sign. Like you said,
- 19:55Speaker 6: the durability protecting himself. But Shane Stike and his head
- 19:58Speaker 6: coach is showing to be a very creative play designer,
- 20:01Speaker 6: so they're going to do some things to get him
- 20:02Speaker 6: on the move but also play him in the pocket.
- 20:05Speaker 6: The thing that Anthony Richardson has to live up to
- 20:07Speaker 6: is nine and eight. That's the record that they had
- 20:11Speaker 6: last season when he wasn't there most of the time
- 20:13Speaker 6: when Gardner Minshew was playing quarterback. They don't want to
- 20:16Speaker 6: dip below that line there, which would put him below
- 20:18Speaker 6: five hundred when he's supposed to be the answer to
- 20:21Speaker 6: their problems. They don't have some of the drama they
- 20:23Speaker 6: had last year. Tom remember this time they had Jonathan
- 20:26Speaker 6: Taylor wanting a contract extension coming into training camp.
- 20:29Speaker 7: That was an issue.
- 20:30Speaker 6: It's all calm seas right now if they're our seas
- 20:33Speaker 6: in the Midwest, Indianapolis. So Anthony Richardson, he's got an opportunity.
- 20:38Speaker 6: You're seeing him right here just doing an RPO. He's
- 20:40Speaker 6: running it, but he's got to protect himself. What he
- 20:42Speaker 6: does is that's not going to go away. That's part
- 20:44Speaker 6: of their offense. It's part of what they're going to
- 20:46Speaker 6: be able to do because he is such a special
- 20:48Speaker 6: athletic talent. But again, just approve the accuracy, stay on
- 20:51Speaker 6: the field. I think Shane Stiken and the supporting staff
- 20:54Speaker 6: are going to help him.
- 20:54Speaker 7: Part of that supporting staff.
- 20:56Speaker 6: That defense, that defense is stacked. They had Laotu lot
- 21:00Speaker 6: to off the edge to combine with Putty pay at
- 21:03Speaker 6: Sampson abucom they could get a lot of takeaways to
- 21:06Speaker 6: get Anthony Richardson some more possessions.
- 21:07Speaker 2: Cam as he says, has Duval covered. I'm going to
- 21:10Speaker 2: be in India on I believe August fifth excited to
- 21:12Speaker 2: see Anthony Richardson two point Oh are you excited to
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- 21:37Speaker 2: lot of intrigue around the Jets, though arguably less hype
- 21:41Speaker 2: than a year ago. We kind of did this. We
- 21:43Speaker 2: saw four snaps of that guy Aaron Rodgers. What does
- 21:46Speaker 2: twenty twenty four hold for him? What does it hold
- 21:49Speaker 2: for a defense and some of its bright young stars
- 21:51Speaker 2: like that guy Jermaine Johnson. He's with us, but talk
- 21:54Speaker 2: about the twenty twenty four Jets. Next on the Insiders,
- 22:04Speaker 2: A big season for the New York Jets kicks off
- 22:07Speaker 2: in Earnest four days from now. That is when the
- 22:10Speaker 2: Jets veterans will be reporting to training camp. Aaron Rodgers,
- 22:15Speaker 2: of course, and also guys like that Jermaine Johnson and
- 22:19Speaker 2: that stacked Jets defense hoping to make up for what
- 22:23Speaker 2: ended up being a have a little bit of a
- 22:25Speaker 2: weird twenty twenty three season, as we welcome in Jermaine
- 22:28Speaker 2: Johnson headed into year three in the NFL. It's great
- 22:31Speaker 2: to see you again. Man, four days away for reporting
- 22:33Speaker 2: to camp. How are you feeling, No.
- 22:36Speaker 10: We're feeling good, man, I'm feeling great. Body feels good.
- 22:40Speaker 10: I always like to say this ahead of a new season.
- 22:42Speaker 10: It's like I got a new car. I can't wait
- 22:44Speaker 10: to pull it off the lote.
- 22:46Speaker 2: So obviously we you know, we see a lot of
- 22:48Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers there, but I'm glad we got your face
- 22:50Speaker 2: in that little hype video because this defense top to
- 22:54Speaker 2: bottom looks like it's set up to be among the
- 22:57Speaker 2: NFL's best. What do you see being around that team
- 23:00Speaker 2: throughout the course of the spring, and what's your expectations
- 23:02Speaker 2: for this season?
- 23:05Speaker 5: I mean, you said it there.
- 23:06Speaker 10: We're looking to be the NFL's best, and there's not
- 23:09Speaker 10: a doubt in our mind we are. So we just
- 23:11Speaker 10: got to build on what we did last year. And
- 23:13Speaker 10: you know, we do a great job of, you know,
- 23:15Speaker 10: holding no excuses. So whatever the case may be, we
- 23:18Speaker 10: have to prevail. And you know, it's hard for a
- 23:20Speaker 10: team to beat if they scored zero points, So that's
- 23:22Speaker 10: always the goal.
- 23:24Speaker 2: So Robert Sala, I know we's spent more time working
- 23:26Speaker 2: with the offense, being around the offense in those meetings
- 23:29Speaker 2: for the course of the offseason. Tell me about Jeff Oldbrick,
- 23:32Speaker 2: a guy who probably doesn't get talked about a lot
- 23:34Speaker 2: Becauseola has got a defensive background, But I know from
- 23:37Speaker 2: just talking to people around that building that he's a
- 23:39Speaker 2: guy who's really valued.
- 23:41Speaker 5: One hundred percent.
- 23:41Speaker 10: I mean I was just in there today talking to him,
- 23:43Speaker 10: and I mean he's a guy that's done it at
- 23:46Speaker 10: a high level and has been successful doing it.
- 23:48Speaker 5: So it's always.
- 23:49Speaker 10: Easier when you have a coach like that, you know,
- 23:51Speaker 10: leading you because you know you've they've done it and
- 23:53Speaker 10: they've done it at a high level. So yeah, I
- 23:56Speaker 10: mean that speaks for itself. Let alone kind of how
- 23:58Speaker 10: he enters the day every single day with a you know,
- 24:00Speaker 10: a great head on their shoulders and a great outlook.
- 24:03Speaker 10: And I mean he's a guy that's hitted me of
- 24:06Speaker 10: just getting through, you know, and battling triumph, you know
- 24:09Speaker 10: what I mean. So I'll just look up tremendously to
- 24:12Speaker 10: him and you know how he operates for sure.
- 24:14Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about that quarterback number. Eight.
- 24:17Speaker 2: We got all four snaps from him last season. He
- 24:20Speaker 2: was there through most of the spring activities. What do
- 24:23Speaker 2: you see right now at Aaron Rodgers.
- 24:27Speaker 5: First ballot Hall of Famer. That'll never change.
- 24:30Speaker 10: So, like you said, four snaps into the you know,
- 24:33Speaker 10: twenty twenty three season, we lost him and that was
- 24:36Speaker 10: a huge hit. But I mean, like you said, he's
- 24:38Speaker 10: been at all the voluntary stuff and he's been balling
- 24:41Speaker 10: being here, and so I mean, I'm just excited to
- 24:43Speaker 10: play with him. I grew up watching them, and you know,
- 24:45Speaker 10: I'm excited to be his teammate, and i know he's
- 24:48Speaker 10: going to come through for us, and you know, my
- 24:49Speaker 10: goal is to just come through for the team.
- 24:51Speaker 2: You grew up though, Eden Prairie, Minnesota. Were you a
- 24:54Speaker 2: Vikings fan? Were you rooting against Aaron Rodgers all those
- 24:57Speaker 2: Packers years?
- 25:01Speaker 10: I couldn't help it. I couldn't help but do that.
- 25:03Speaker 10: And you know, being a Vikings fan back then was
- 25:06Speaker 10: pretty hard. You know, he always got there but didn't
- 25:10Speaker 10: really make anything shake. So, I mean, Aaron's been dogging
- 25:13Speaker 10: guys in the league for quite a long time now,
- 25:16Speaker 10: So I'm just excited. You know, I'm going to be
- 25:18Speaker 10: on the right side of it, and you know, backing
- 25:20Speaker 10: him up.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Well.
- 25:21Speaker 2: Obviously a lot was made of Aaron not being at
- 25:24Speaker 2: the two days of the mandatory mini camp. He was
- 25:27Speaker 2: traveling at the time. Coach Sall said it was on
- 25:29Speaker 2: excuse how much of it all did the locker room
- 25:32Speaker 2: care about that? And how much if any, does it
- 25:34Speaker 2: impact he as he had in the training camp here.
- 25:36Speaker 5: Zero impact. I mean we didn't care.
- 25:38Speaker 10: He had stuff he had to handle, and like you said,
- 25:40Speaker 10: he's been at all the voluntary stuff, So it doesn't
- 25:43Speaker 10: really make much sense to sit there and scrutinize a
- 25:45Speaker 10: guy that's been at all the things he doesn't have to,
- 25:47Speaker 10: especially a first ballot Hall of Famer that you know
- 25:50Speaker 10: a lot of people would think that, you know, why
- 25:51Speaker 10: would you have to go to that or why would
- 25:53Speaker 10: you go to that? Still, but I mean he has
- 25:55Speaker 10: been and he's been stepping up and being the leader
- 25:57Speaker 10: for this team as everybody expects him to be and
- 26:00Speaker 10: he expects of himself. So I mean there's zero impact.
- 26:04Speaker 10: We know he's he's airing on and off the field,
- 26:06Speaker 10: and you know he's going to be a great leader
- 26:07Speaker 10: that everybody looks up to and you know, continue to
- 26:09Speaker 10: be so.
- 26:10Speaker 1: So tell me about yourself here, Jamine.
- 26:12Speaker 2: I remember we first met on the practice field down
- 26:15Speaker 2: in Mobile, Alabama at the Resa Senior Bowl. You you
- 26:18Speaker 2: had a long road to get to this point, to
- 26:21Speaker 2: get into the NFL. Seven and a half sacks last season.
- 26:24Speaker 2: What's next? Where do you go from here?
- 26:27Speaker 7: Go up?
- 26:27Speaker 5: Progress? One percent?
- 26:29Speaker 10: I always like to say that, you know, the slope
- 26:32Speaker 10: to you know, progress looks like this. It doesn't look
- 26:34Speaker 10: like this. So if you're staying the same, you're getting worse.
- 26:37Speaker 10: So the goal is to just keep getting better and better.
- 26:38Speaker 10: And uh, you know my mangal is to just be
- 26:41Speaker 10: be everything and then some for my team and you know,
- 26:44Speaker 10: do my job and then a little bit more.
- 26:46Speaker 2: You finally, you finally got your pick six, right, so
- 26:49Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna be adding to that, even catch
- 26:51Speaker 2: the balls up the jugs machines, Like, what what's next
- 26:54Speaker 2: year for you?
- 26:55Speaker 10: One hundred percent? I need I need like two more
- 26:57Speaker 10: of those. Those those one of the best fields ever.
- 27:00Speaker 10: Uh So yeah, one hundred percent go out there and
- 27:02Speaker 10: make spectacular plays and uh, you know, be extraordinary and
- 27:06Speaker 10: be a superstar.
- 27:06Speaker 5: That's what I got on my notebook.
- 27:08Speaker 2: See I'm watching I'm watching the replays here in studio.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Like if you didn't tell me, if you didn't you know,
- 27:12Speaker 2: if I didn't know, who was that you for home?
- 27:14Speaker 3: Like?
- 27:14Speaker 2: Is that demo Samuel on the Jets once the big
- 27:16Speaker 2: man gets the ball in.
- 27:17Speaker 1: His hands, like you were you were motoring out there?
- 27:20Speaker 5: Man, hey man, you just go check out the huddle.
- 27:23Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
- 27:23Speaker 10: I was a little receiver in high school, a little
- 27:25Speaker 10: bit started both ways, so you know, I wasn't new
- 27:28Speaker 10: to it.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Now you're on and now you're on the Goon squad
- 27:31Speaker 2: right based on the based on the shirt you got here,
- 27:33Speaker 2: the godfather of the Goon squad.
- 27:35Speaker 10: One hundred percent. And uh, you know a funny story
- 27:37Speaker 10: about this shirt. This is actually a tribute to, uh,
- 27:40Speaker 10: you know, all the practice squad guys we have on
- 27:42Speaker 10: our team that service us and give us a great look.
- 27:45Speaker 10: And this is a you know shirt that the that
- 27:48Speaker 10: the coaches made and the equipment made for those guys,
- 27:51Speaker 10: because you know, without them, the team wouldn't be the
- 27:53Speaker 10: team and we wouldn't get the looks we get. Uh,
- 27:55Speaker 10: So shout out to them, Shout out to the Goon
- 27:57Speaker 10: squad always.
- 27:58Speaker 1: That's really cool. That's you know, yeah, it takes everybody.
- 28:00Speaker 2: It takes everybody to make the type of run, playoff run,
- 28:03Speaker 2: maybe championship run that you guys want to put together
- 28:05Speaker 2: this year. After after everything you've been through over the
- 28:08Speaker 2: past year, all the you know, the emotion and the
- 28:10Speaker 2: hype that went into last season. You step back into
- 28:12Speaker 2: the building four days from now for training camp. What's
- 28:15Speaker 2: the message that you want to convey and you hope
- 28:17Speaker 2: everybody takes in in that Jets building.
- 28:20Speaker 10: I want to know every week, want to know every practice,
- 28:23Speaker 10: want to know every rep. I mean, just take it slow,
- 28:26Speaker 10: handle what's on the plate in front of you, and
- 28:28Speaker 10: you know, shop with carry water. It's corny, it's cliche,
- 28:31Speaker 10: but you know, it couldn't be more than the truth.
- 28:34Speaker 10: So I mean, just just look at that. Don't make
- 28:37Speaker 10: things bigger.
- 28:38Speaker 5: Than it is.
- 28:39Speaker 10: Don't let the moment be bigger than you, be bigger
- 28:41Speaker 10: than the moment, ball out be you. I mean, we
- 28:44Speaker 10: got super bowler bus. So that's kind of how we're
- 28:48Speaker 10: looking at it. That's how I'm definitely looking at it.
- 28:50Speaker 10: So with that being said, like I said, it's just
- 28:53Speaker 10: want to know every week, want to know every practice,
- 28:55Speaker 10: Want to know every rep.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Super Bowl or bus that all starts July twenty third
- 28:59Speaker 2: or four to training camp to Maine. Have fun, good
- 29:02Speaker 2: luck man. Thanks a Lov for coming on the show for.
- 29:05Speaker 5: So man, and you know I'm having fun out there.
- 29:06Speaker 5: I can't wait.
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- 29:31Speaker 1: Can the Chiefs make it a three piece? That's the
- 29:34Speaker 1: mission they are on as.
- 29:35Speaker 2: They get set to report to Saint Joseph as a
- 29:38Speaker 2: full squad on Saturday. We get into the state of
- 29:42Speaker 2: the AFC West and boy have there been some changes.
- 29:45Speaker 1: That's next on The Insiders.
- 29:53Speaker 6: Thirteen seconds to Go, twenty two to nineteen San Francisco.
- 29:57Speaker 1: A touchdown wins the game. A you got Church right,
- 30:00Speaker 1: Boss Shuttle, Tom and Jerry Roy Yellow let.
- 30:04Speaker 6: Tomano play action fake right side trow tucks down.
- 30:09Speaker 7: Jacksau City down.
- 30:15Speaker 9: To pat super Bowl champion The Kansas City Chiefs.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Back to back Baby with another set back Hey, we're
- 30:23Speaker 1: not done, dog. I want three. I want back to
- 30:25Speaker 1: back to back.
- 30:29Speaker 2: Now going for three in a row, going for his
- 30:31Speaker 2: four super Bowl overall for Patrick Mahomes after a season
- 30:34Speaker 2: in which, let's remember, the Chiefs posted their worst regular
- 30:38Speaker 2: season record of the Patrick Mahomes era. It was not
- 30:41Speaker 2: an easy path to get there, and yet once again
- 30:45Speaker 2: Kansas City on top.
- 30:46Speaker 1: Can they make it three in a row? For more?
- 30:48Speaker 1: In the state of the AFC West, Let's rank.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Welcome in Adam Rank to the insiders along with me,
- 30:54Speaker 2: Tom Peliicero rank. The Chiefs rookies have reported. The veterans
- 30:58Speaker 2: are in camp tomorrow. What are you looking for? What
- 31:01Speaker 2: is the state of the Chiefs as they enter this
- 31:03Speaker 2: three peak push?
- 31:05Speaker 3: Well, you heard Patrick Mahomes say it right there.
- 31:07Speaker 8: He wants number three and a big reason why he's
- 31:10Speaker 8: firmly in the goat chase, chasing down Tom Brady as
- 31:14Speaker 8: the best quarterback of all time.
- 31:15Speaker 3: And I think it comes down to those two guys.
- 31:17Speaker 8: And now Patrick Mahomes has an opportunity to do something
- 31:21Speaker 8: that Tom Brady's never done, which is.
- 31:23Speaker 3: Win three Super Bowls in a row.
- 31:25Speaker 8: And it's interesting when people talk about this, they're like, well,
- 31:28Speaker 8: look how far Patrick Mahomes has come already. You're like, yeah,
- 31:31Speaker 8: Tom Brady did the same thing, Like he won three
- 31:33Speaker 8: and four years, he lost two super Bowls, won two
- 31:36Speaker 8: Super Bowls, lost a Super Bowl, won a Super Bowl,
- 31:38Speaker 8: went to Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl. So
- 31:40Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes still has some work to do, but to
- 31:42Speaker 8: do something that hasn't been done in the NFL standards,
- 31:45Speaker 8: And I don't want the Packer fans coming after maybe
- 31:48Speaker 8: like we've won three NFL shut up, we got it. Okay,
- 31:51Speaker 8: you won three NFL titles in the twenties, the nineteen twenties,
- 31:55Speaker 8: we get it.
- 31:56Speaker 3: But this is something that's unprecedented.
- 31:58Speaker 8: And if there is one guy that I have faith
- 32:01Speaker 8: in doing it, it's Patrick Mahons because last season, as
- 32:04Speaker 8: you said, it wasn't an easy road. They didn't even
- 32:06Speaker 8: need home field advantage and they still walk through that
- 32:08Speaker 8: AFC like nobody who's business. So I'm not putting it
- 32:12Speaker 8: past them, but it is very difficult. The last team
- 32:14Speaker 8: that he became close Dallas Cowboys nineteen ninety four. They
- 32:17Speaker 8: got all the way to the NFC Championship Game, felled
- 32:20Speaker 8: by the forty nine ers, and that was as close
- 32:22Speaker 8: as anybody's ever gone.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Adam, we gave you your Bears super fan time.
- 32:25Speaker 2: At the top of the show, I was told this
- 32:27Speaker 2: was going to be analyst Adam Rank, So no more
- 32:29Speaker 2: Packer shots.
- 32:30Speaker 1: Let's focus on the ball for.
- 32:33Speaker 2: The rest of the segle. Let's go to Denver. Okay,
- 32:35Speaker 2: let's go to the Broncos. Another year here with Sean Payton.
- 32:38Speaker 2: What is the state of this Denver team that obviously
- 32:41Speaker 2: has had some big changes, including at the quarterback position.
- 32:44Speaker 3: I think it all comes down to the quarterback and
- 32:46Speaker 3: what they have with bow Nicks.
- 32:47Speaker 8: This is going to be determining what happens with the
- 32:50Speaker 8: future of this franchise and really the legacy of Sean
- 32:53Speaker 8: Payton moving forward. The one thing about this quarterback is
- 32:56Speaker 8: that we've seen him for a long time. Like this
- 32:58Speaker 8: guy was playing college football against Justin Herbert for crying
- 33:02Speaker 8: out loud, and now he's going to be going out
- 33:04Speaker 8: and being in the same division as him. And listening
- 33:07Speaker 8: to some of the quarterbacks.
- 33:08Speaker 3: Talk about him. I was watching something with Jordan Palmer.
- 33:10Speaker 8: And they were kind of comparing him to a more
- 33:13Speaker 8: athletic Drew Brees, and I'm like, Okay, let's let's pump
- 33:16Speaker 8: the brakes a little bit. It's kind of like when
- 33:18Speaker 8: you hear comics talking about a comics comic, like, yeah,
- 33:21Speaker 8: that's usually not the greatest thing. But he has done
- 33:24Speaker 8: some nice things during his college career, and if this
- 33:27Speaker 8: one pans out for the Broncos, I think it'll kind
- 33:30Speaker 8: of help alleviate some of the problems they've had over
- 33:32Speaker 8: the last couple of years. They do probably need to
- 33:34Speaker 8: upgrade the wide receiver room a little bit. Jerry Judy's
- 33:38Speaker 8: obviously not there, but would love to see somebody step
- 33:41Speaker 8: up alongside of Courtland Sutton. Maybe maybe it's you know,
- 33:45Speaker 8: I'm now blanking on the guy's name, the rookie from
- 33:47Speaker 8: last year. I can't even think of it anymore. I
- 33:49Speaker 8: lost it because I was so upset in fantasy. He
- 33:52Speaker 8: started the first four games and then the Sean Payton
- 33:55Speaker 8: got rid of him. I'm drawing a blank. Yeah, Marvin Moore,
- 34:00Speaker 8: I want Marvin Mins the Steve though.
- 34:02Speaker 1: I was gonna let you, I was gonna give you
- 34:04Speaker 1: more time.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Oh man, all right, you mentioned Justin Derbert in there.
- 34:09Speaker 2: The Chargers. Obviously, Jim Marbaugh is coming in. It's a
- 34:12Speaker 2: massive story It's massive expectation because Jim Harborough's first year
- 34:15Speaker 2: with the forty nine Ers, they go thirteen and three,
- 34:18Speaker 2: They roll right into the NFC Championship game.
- 34:21Speaker 1: What's the state of the Chargers? All those superstars and.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Now the head coach is coming off a national title.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big thing.
- 34:28Speaker 8: I mean, outside of a special teams blunder, the forty
- 34:31Speaker 8: nine Ers would have been in the Super Bowl and
- 34:32Speaker 8: they went to overtime against the Giants and ended up
- 34:34Speaker 8: losing that game. Giants go on to beat Tom Brady
- 34:37Speaker 8: and all that good stuff. Jim Harbaugh has made quick
- 34:40Speaker 8: turnarounds in San Francisco and of course with Michigan. But
- 34:43Speaker 8: to me, this seems eerily similar to what he had
- 34:46Speaker 8: when he took over Stanford. Stanford was kind of a
- 34:49Speaker 8: downtrodden program that he needed a few years to get
- 34:53Speaker 8: them up to speed. They started off four and eight
- 34:55Speaker 8: in his first year at Stanford and then eventually became
- 34:58Speaker 8: one of the powers in the Pac twelve and then
- 35:00Speaker 8: going on and having some run as a national powerhouse
- 35:04Speaker 8: as well.
- 35:04Speaker 3: And I believe that's what we're looking at with the Chargers.
- 35:07Speaker 8: They have won too many holes to fill before they
- 35:10Speaker 8: truly become one of the elite teams in the AFC,
- 35:12Speaker 8: which I truly believe will happen.
- 35:15Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh is that good. This team will be good.
- 35:18Speaker 8: Drafting Joe All was a huge move for them because
- 35:21Speaker 8: you want to be good in the offensive line, and
- 35:24Speaker 8: I think that's going to be a huge thing with
- 35:26Speaker 8: him and Greg Roman, and it's probably to the detriment
- 35:29Speaker 8: of Justin Herbert's fantasy. But at the same time, Kamari Vadal,
- 35:34Speaker 8: by the way, I want to throw this out to
- 35:35Speaker 8: Kamari Vidal is a player to watch. I've already switched
- 35:38Speaker 8: over Tom like I'm finishing this state of the franchise,
- 35:42Speaker 8: and then you would think, like after doing thirty two
- 35:44Speaker 8: of these, they'd give me a day off. Now I
- 35:46Speaker 8: got to go back and start doing fantasy profiles starting
- 35:49Speaker 8: on Monday. Kamari Vidal is somebody to watch out. But
- 35:52Speaker 8: I think the Chargers will be there eventually, but probably
- 35:54Speaker 8: not this year.
- 35:55Speaker 2: Kamani Vindol, the grandson of Hank Aaron. You've got him
- 35:58Speaker 2: as a fantasy target, and he was a fancy target.
- 36:01Speaker 2: This is a whole other segment.
- 36:02Speaker 3: That's a whole other stinger. We can do that on Monday.
- 36:04Speaker 3: I'll come back.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Sound good, I'll be here, You'll be here. Well, we
- 36:07Speaker 1: got nothing but time. The Raiders.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Meanwhile, they've had a wild few years here, from John
- 36:12Speaker 2: Gruden to making the playoffs with Rich Vasacci, to Josh
- 36:15Speaker 2: McDaniels to Antonio Piers. Now Pierce has the full time
- 36:18Speaker 2: head coaching job, doesn't.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Necessarily know who is starting quarterback is yet. What's the
- 36:22Speaker 1: state of the Raiders.
- 36:23Speaker 3: Well, I really like what the Raiders did with Antonio Pierce.
- 36:26Speaker 8: It kind of harkens back to the glory days of
- 36:29Speaker 8: Al Davis, who would go out there and get these
- 36:31Speaker 8: coaches who might have been a year or two off
- 36:35Speaker 8: of the prize, like they weren't like household names, Like
- 36:38Speaker 8: he picked up John Madden and then Tom Flores and
- 36:41Speaker 8: then Mike Shanahan and then even John Gruden Lane Kiffin
- 36:45Speaker 8: like he always had this knack of finding these these
- 36:48Speaker 8: coaches to become the leaders of this team.
- 36:51Speaker 3: And that's what the Raiders are at right now.
- 36:53Speaker 8: And I thought that the team responded last year with
- 36:56Speaker 8: Antonio Pierce. The offense was better, the defense was better.
- 36:59Speaker 8: DeVante Adam actually seemed happy for a moment. I'm sorry
- 37:02Speaker 8: that's a borderline Packers shot, but it's not.
- 37:05Speaker 3: I like what the Raiders are doing.
- 37:07Speaker 8: I truly believe that Gardner Minshew is kind of an
- 37:10Speaker 8: upgrade for them.
- 37:11Speaker 3: I really do. I thought Gardner Minshew.
- 37:12Speaker 8: You talked about it in a segment previously about how
- 37:15Speaker 8: well he played for the Colts last year. I believe
- 37:18Speaker 8: he becomes the quarterback for the Raiders and they're very
- 37:21Speaker 8: competitive this season.
- 37:23Speaker 2: Real quick, before we let you go, Rank, Marvin Mims
- 37:26Speaker 2: is draftable in fantasy.
- 37:28Speaker 8: Yes, Marvin Mims was great for the first four weeks
- 37:31Speaker 8: and then, for whatever reason, disappeared and I was not
- 37:34Speaker 8: happy about it. I want a full Marvin Mims season.
- 37:37Speaker 2: We're gonna make you disappear until Monday. Give you a
- 37:40Speaker 2: take the weekend, Okay, take a break, Oh thank you.
- 37:42Speaker 2: We'll see it very soon.
- 37:43Speaker 1: Here.
- 37:43Speaker 2: That's Adam Rank. NFL is back. So is the top
- 37:47Speaker 2: one hundred? Well, Max Crosby make another appearance. I'm gonna
- 37:51Speaker 2: say it's a pretty good chance.
- 37:52Speaker 1: Yes. Find out who the players voted as the best.
- 37:55Speaker 2: Player in the NFL and do NFL Plus starting July
- 37:58Speaker 2: twenty second for Exclusive Daily and to find out who
- 38:01Speaker 2: took home the Trophy. Go to plus dot NFL dot
- 38:04Speaker 2: com to sign up today. Probably not gonna hear Bryce
- 38:08Speaker 2: Young's name on that list. This year a disaster all
- 38:12Speaker 2: around the Carolina Panthers in twenty twenty three, but could
- 38:16Speaker 2: it take a big step forward in twenty twenty four.
- 38:18Speaker 2: Camp Wolf's get to join next to talk about some
- 38:21Speaker 2: new players who might help Young take a big step forward.
- 38:24Speaker 1: That's next on the Insiders.
- 38:31Speaker 2: The Panthers rookies reporting for duty, Xavier Lee Ghent, Jonathan
- 38:36Speaker 2: Brooks and the rest of the crew. The worst team
- 38:40Speaker 2: in the NFL is no way around it. Two and fifteen.
- 38:43Speaker 2: Last season, the Bears ended up with the number one
- 38:46Speaker 2: overall pick.
- 38:46Speaker 1: They get Caleb Williams.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Panthers hoping for a big step forward from last year's
- 38:50Speaker 2: number one pick Bryce Young. As we welcome back in Cameron
- 38:52Speaker 2: Wolf with me Tom Pellisero here on the Insiders, Let's
- 38:56Speaker 2: focus on the rookies, Cam with those guys coming to
- 38:59Speaker 2: work to obviously they need all the help that they
- 39:02Speaker 2: can get around Bryce Young and certainly Dan Morgan use
- 39:05Speaker 2: some of the relatively limited resources he had to try
- 39:08Speaker 2: to show up those positions.
- 39:09Speaker 9: Yeah, Tom, let's not sugarcoated This was the worst offense
- 39:12Speaker 9: of football last year. They needed help badly, and Zay
- 39:15Speaker 9: were Lagette their first round pick. They traded up in
- 39:17Speaker 9: the first round to get him. It's going to be
- 39:19Speaker 9: a huge weapon for Bryce Young. He's a huge target,
- 39:23Speaker 9: six twenty two pounds and I don't know what I'm
- 39:26Speaker 9: more excited about to hear his deep southern draw that's
- 39:29Speaker 9: when viral on social media, or to see him catching
- 39:31Speaker 9: passes For Bryce Young, they needed this level of talent infusion,
- 39:35Speaker 9: and it's really going to be an important period early
- 39:37Speaker 9: in training camp to see him because he missed a
- 39:40Speaker 9: lot of OTA's with a hamstring injury and all with
- 39:43Speaker 9: mini camp, and so they want to see how he
- 39:44Speaker 9: can develop that chemistry of Bryce. Adam Thielen was their
- 39:48Speaker 9: leading receiver last year. He'll be thirty four the start
- 39:51Speaker 9: of this season, and so Lagett has a big opportunity
- 39:53Speaker 9: to take hold of that offense along with Deontay Johnson.
- 39:57Speaker 9: And the other guy I'm eager to see is Jonathan Brooks,
- 40:00Speaker 9: running back they drafted in the second round. He's coming
- 40:02Speaker 9: off of twenty acl in November, so he's going to
- 40:04Speaker 9: start the training camp on the non football injury list
- 40:07Speaker 9: coming back from that injury, but Dave Canalis said a
- 40:10Speaker 9: month ago that at some point this summer before the season,
- 40:13Speaker 9: they hoped to work him back in. Once he's ready
- 40:15Speaker 9: to go, he could quickly emerge as the lead back
- 40:18Speaker 9: in that offense. Dave Canallis wants to lean on the
- 40:21Speaker 9: run game, and so Brooks and Legett could be huge
- 40:24Speaker 9: weapons for Bryce Young for years to come.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Speaking to Dave Canalis, he is there for a lot
- 40:29Speaker 2: of reasons in Carolina, but the biggest one fixed Bryce
- 40:32Speaker 2: Young because that was not the Bryce Young we saw
- 40:34Speaker 2: last season that had made himself the number one pick
- 40:37Speaker 2: during his time at Alabama.
- 40:39Speaker 1: How do they do that?
- 40:40Speaker 2: What are the keys as we move forward here for
- 40:42Speaker 2: Bryce Young and Carolina?
- 40:43Speaker 9: Yeah, Tom, talking to people in that building, that's the
- 40:46Speaker 9: big thing I've heard is that they're aligned in their
- 40:49Speaker 9: communication with Bryce Young. Last year, the situation was there's
- 40:52Speaker 9: a lot of different coaches with different visions and it
- 40:54Speaker 9: became clutter, too many cooks in the kitchen. But Dave
- 40:57Speaker 9: Canalis and his staff they've worked together in a lot
- 41:00Speaker 9: different spots and they've really been aligned in how they're
- 41:03Speaker 9: speaking to him, their vision of what they want to
- 41:06Speaker 9: have for him. And I talked to a key Panthers
- 41:07Speaker 9: figure earlier this offseason and he said the biggest thing
- 41:10Speaker 9: he noticed in Bryce is that he's much more upbeat
- 41:13Speaker 9: and positive. And he said that's something we didn't see
- 41:15Speaker 9: a lot last year, and that kind of mirrors Dave
- 41:17Speaker 9: Canalis if you've seen him.
- 41:18Speaker 7: He's very upbeat and positive.
- 41:20Speaker 9: And remember he coached Baker Mayfield as his offensive coordinator
- 41:24Speaker 9: and play caller in Tampa Bay last year.
- 41:26Speaker 7: The hope is that this year he can unlock Bryce.
- 41:29Speaker 9: One big thing that Dan Morgan the GM did for
- 41:32Speaker 9: Bryce is get two big guards and Robert Hunt and
- 41:35Speaker 9: Damian Lewis to be able to protect that interior. Bryce
- 41:37Speaker 9: is a short quarterback. You need that interior in the
- 41:40Speaker 9: pocket to be good. He was sacked sixty two times
- 41:43Speaker 9: last year. He's got to have a shot to survive
- 41:45Speaker 9: this year, and they think he'll be in a better
- 41:47Speaker 9: position to succeed.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Cam Thank you very much.
- 41:49Speaker 7: Bruce.
- 41:50Speaker 2: Shown's pretty accurate quarterback. Could he maybe be an Olympic
- 41:52Speaker 2: flag football type of guy? Who would you pick to
- 41:55Speaker 2: be the quarterback of the flag football team? Steve Which
- 41:59Speaker 2: and I have some idea is we'll bring him to
- 42:01Speaker 2: you next on The Insiders. We'll be back on Monday
- 42:09Speaker 2: with more of the Insiders, and that guy is gonna
- 42:12Speaker 2: join US forty nine Ers tight end George Kittle. What's
- 42:16Speaker 2: the latest going on with Brandon Ayuk?
- 42:18Speaker 1: What are the expect Tason's like for a forty nine
- 42:20Speaker 1: Ers team?
- 42:20Speaker 2: Was oh so close to another Lombardi in the case
- 42:23Speaker 2: Kittle and a whole lot more when The Insiders comes
- 42:26Speaker 2: back on Monday. Meanwhile, over on NFL Plus, we got
- 42:30Speaker 2: highlight Skalore in the Flag Football Championships. There are tons
- 42:34Speaker 2: of teams. You can watch all the games and plays
- 42:37Speaker 2: like this. Look at the hands right there. Check it
- 42:40Speaker 2: out right now on NFL Plus. Welcome back to the Insiders.
- 42:44Speaker 2: Tom Pilaicero, Steve White play football at Olympic Sport in
- 42:47Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. If there's an active NFL player you
- 42:49Speaker 2: want is your quarterback for.
- 42:51Speaker 7: The US, who is it?
- 42:51Speaker 6: Act, It's gonna be Kyler Murray because if he has
- 42:55Speaker 6: to scramble, he's gonna be a tough dude to get
- 42:57Speaker 6: the flag off of.
- 42:58Speaker 1: But he's also got.
- 42:59Speaker 6: A rocket man. You watch this guy throw it. Kyler
- 43:02Speaker 6: Murray would be perfect for the Olympic Flag football team.
- 43:05Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Brock Purdy, I'm this first in yards
- 43:08Speaker 2: per attempt the light window throws last season, he was
- 43:11Speaker 2: first in almost every downfield passing Instead, He's one of
- 43:13Speaker 2: the best in the NFL in rhythm and he can
- 43:16Speaker 2: move to those the two characteristics I want with my
- 43:20Speaker 2: Olympic quarterback.
- 43:21Speaker 1: I could see Brock Purdy being that guy.
- 43:23Speaker 2: Well, you know, if they don't decide to have the
- 43:25Speaker 2: active NFL players in, just fire up Tom Brady. It'll
- 43:28Speaker 2: be like we can still get out there and diced up.
- 43:31Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Next week on this show, everybody's
- 43:34Speaker 1: in camp. You should be here too. See it.