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Speaker 1: Is the gold Reform.
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Speaker 2: Federal Tellium p manig Ryan apologizes as her husband is
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Speaker 2: called stealing an opponent sign. Oh, I'm not saying who
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Speaker 2: I am. We'll get into the hypocrisy there. Plus the
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Speaker 2: Brisbane Olympics, the whole rowing events on a river with crocodiles.
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Speaker 2: We'll ask an expert how that will work out. Also tonight,
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Speaker 2: China's new weapon and undersea cable cutter, which could cut
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Speaker 2: our Internet links to the rest of the world. Is
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Speaker 2: that what China was plotting when it sent three chips
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Speaker 2: off Sydney last month? But first, Anthony Albanezi made a
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Speaker 2: fake promise yesterday ahead of tomorrow's budget that helps her
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Speaker 2: explain where this country is in such strife, getting poorer
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Speaker 2: and deeper in debt.
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Speaker 3: Budget is about helping family budgets. Labour will take another
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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty dollars right off your power bills,
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Speaker 3: two payments of seventy five dollars each for every household.
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Speaker 2: Now that is bull. It's true. The Abnezi government is
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Speaker 2: going to give a hand out. Here you go one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars to every household. But that's a
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Speaker 2: handout that you have to pay for from your taxes.
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Speaker 2: Your power bills meanwhile keep going up and that's the problem.
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Speaker 2: Labour promised the last election to cut your electricity bills
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Speaker 2: by two hundred and seventy five dollars instead of gone
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Speaker 2: up by hundreds of dollars and will keep going up.
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Speaker 2: And this lead of subsidy will last only this election
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Speaker 2: year and then you'll have to pay the full whack
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Speaker 2: on your power bills after that. This is a promise
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Speaker 2: just spent to get the government over the election.
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Speaker 4: By energy the olds, Why have you extended a sustains
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Speaker 4: fund and sort of twelve month fluss.
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Speaker 5: Alf financial We wanted to make sure that this energy
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Speaker 5: bill relief was extended through this calendar year to the
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Speaker 5: end of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 2: And what makes this con worse is that it's a
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Speaker 2: handout to hide the utter failure of the government's global
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Speaker 2: warming schemes. This big plan to save the world from
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Speaker 2: global warming by closing our Colphard power generators and replacing
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Speaker 2: them with expensive and unreliable wind and sol that the
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Speaker 2: Labor claiming those plans would cut your bills, they didn't.
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Speaker 2: And no wonder the government's plan, for instance, for green
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Speaker 2: hydrogen they've collapsed, it's planned. Offshore wind farms are almost
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Speaker 2: all stalled. We're solar farms, the rollout of them and
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Speaker 2: the wind farms, so all that's way behind. So these
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Speaker 2: labor handouts paid by you are just a labour's compensation
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Speaker 2: for labors and competence. You'll pay higher power bills and
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Speaker 2: now you're going to have to pay for the handouts
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Speaker 2: you're getting as compensation as well. This is no way
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Speaker 2: to run a country, but it keeps happening. You take
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Speaker 2: a massive immigration right now, more than a million extra
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Speaker 2: immigrants under this government. It's come with the cost, huge costs.
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Speaker 2: It's course house prices and rents to go through the roof.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the link is so obvious. More immigrants, higher rents,
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Speaker 2: they track each other bit by bit that you go
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Speaker 2: simply because we're not building enough houses. And the government's
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Speaker 2: fixed now even more handouts again paid by you, more
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Speaker 2: Commonwealth rent assistance and all money for a lucky two
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Speaker 2: hundred and two five hundred strolis a year to buy
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Speaker 2: their first home. Why not just slash immigration, fix the problem,
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Speaker 2: don't spend our money on band aids. In fact, the
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Speaker 2: whole government strategy has been exactly like that. It's choked
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Speaker 2: our economy with pro union rules, heritage bans, green restrictions
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Speaker 2: on gas and oil and coal. And look the result
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Speaker 2: is our growth has gone down the toilet, except for
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Speaker 2: that bounce back just after the lockdowns. Inflation's being too high,
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Speaker 2: and now we're getting even more, even more and more
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Speaker 2: and more handouts are hard to decline. More medicare spending,
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Speaker 2: more childcare handouts, even more money for the National Insurance
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Speaker 2: Disability Scheme, which Labor laughingly claims to have reformed. I mean,
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Speaker 2: just on that, just on the NDAs forty four billion
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Speaker 2: dollars a year in our spending on a scheme that
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Speaker 2: was meant to help only Australians with significant and permanent disability.
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Speaker 2: So can someone please explain how we nevertheless ended up
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Speaker 2: with seven hundred thousand Australians all claiming so significant and
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Speaker 2: permanent disability. That's one in thirty five Australians all claiming
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Speaker 2: in the areas benefits. I mean, we're being had. And
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Speaker 2: who pays for this? All these band aids, the dudgreen schemes,
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Speaker 2: the roughters, the thirty six thousand extra public servants that
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Speaker 2: Anthony Abaneze has hired you do. And this is why
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Speaker 2: tomorrow's budget, just fresh from the printers, is going to
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Speaker 2: admit that the money is now gone. Those windfalls this
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Speaker 2: government enjoyed from booming prices for our coal and a
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Speaker 2: gas and our iron ore it's gone and instead labor
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Speaker 2: is now going to plunge us into a decade of deficits,
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Speaker 2: which is what the Treasurer conceded yesterday. When do you
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Speaker 2: anticipate an Australian government could next deliver a surplus, Well
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Speaker 2: remains to be seen. Our efforts have been about trying
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Speaker 2: to make the budget as responsible as we can. Some savings.
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Speaker 2: So however, labor spins tomorrow's budget and there'll be lots
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Speaker 2: of spins. Oh look look at the hand you know,
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Speaker 2: we're great handouts. Bottom line is this your living standards down?
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Speaker 2: Growth down, debt up? And I really don't know what
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Speaker 2: more needs to be said to the panel. Michael Kroger,
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Speaker 2: former Victorian Liberal President, Stephen Conroy, former Labor senator in
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Speaker 2: cabinet Minister Stephen, we have had record prices for minerals
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Speaker 2: which are now coming off the peak. That's true. We've
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Speaker 2: got a strains paying more in taxes. This economy is
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Speaker 2: not in recession yet. Tomorrow's budget is going to admit
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Speaker 2: to a decade of differences to come. How could that
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Speaker 2: possibly be.
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Speaker 6: Well, the forecasts from two years ago was that that
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Speaker 6: would be the case. But just to deal with a
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Speaker 6: couple of points that you've made, I mean you've and
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Speaker 6: I know it the moment. It is just a selective leak,
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Speaker 6: and you can't necessarily put it in the bank. But
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Speaker 6: the suggestion is that the tax to GDP figure will
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Speaker 6: fall back substantially to between twenty three and twenty four percent.
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Speaker 6: That is a significant reduction in tax collections in twelve months.
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Speaker 6: I think it a figure was heading towards twenty seven
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Speaker 6: twenty eight and now it's down potentially between twenty three
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Speaker 6: and twenty four. So this idea that the governments are
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Speaker 6: massively weeping in taxes. Andrew, I suspect by tomorrow night
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Speaker 6: you're going to have to tell a different story on
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Speaker 6: that one.
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Speaker 2: From the leak. Admit it.
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Speaker 6: Don't put it in the bank yet, but I think
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Speaker 6: if that is achieved, that is a very significant reduction
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Speaker 6: in the tax take.
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Speaker 2: You didn't quite ask when you makes Stephen, Now that's
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Speaker 2: that's a red hearing one. You didn't answer my question
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Speaker 2: to you threw in the reg tax. You know that
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Speaker 2: tax take is from tax cuts that were legislated last decade, right,
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Speaker 2: and it's only to make up for bracket creep no time.
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Speaker 2: And from this point on there will be more bracket
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Speaker 2: creep to come and that figure that you just gave
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Speaker 2: is going to edge up again. So, Michael, what do
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Speaker 2: you think, how is it repeat my point with a
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Speaker 2: tax take with the high mineral prices, with an economy
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Speaker 2: that's not in recession, has the government ended up back
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Speaker 2: with a decade of deficits.
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Speaker 7: Well, we're we're in budget crisis led by one of
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Speaker 7: the weakest treasures we've ever had. I mean, if you
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Speaker 7: go back to the nineteen twenty government, government payments were
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Speaker 7: going to be four hundred and ninety two billion. Forecast
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Speaker 7: next year they're going to be seven hundred and seventy
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Speaker 7: five billion. So payments, payments have gone up over two
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Speaker 7: hundred and eighty billion dollars in a sixt year period.
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Speaker 7: And as Chris Ulman poured it out.
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Speaker 2: Before.
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Speaker 7: Payments is a percentage of he have gone up from
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Speaker 7: twenty four and a half percent to twenty seven point
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Speaker 7: two percent next year. So what is the answer to
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Speaker 7: your question? This blow cannot control his expenditure. He's a
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Speaker 7: week treasure and insipid treasurer who's never seen a spending proposal.
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Speaker 7: He hasn't caved into. This is the problem, and it
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Speaker 7: takes Stephen's point about tax tax has increased Stephen two
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Speaker 7: hund twenty six billion in that same six year period,
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Speaker 7: so fifty seven billion dollars a year more in government expenditure.
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Speaker 7: That's the problem in this country. A week treasurer who
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Speaker 7: cannot control his spending and we've seen it in the
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Speaker 7: last couple of logs happen. We may be using their
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Speaker 7: old trick, their old trick spend our way to election
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Speaker 7: victories is what Daniel Andrews did. They roll it out
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Speaker 7: every time and our children will be paying for it.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, Stephen, we're going to have the budget tomorrow. I
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Speaker 2: don't think there's going to be many surprises because of
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Speaker 2: course the government didn't expect to hand it down and
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Speaker 2: they've been announcing the big things before this. It'll be farther.
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's response on Thursday, and then it's off to
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Speaker 2: the The election could be called what probably Sunday or
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Speaker 2: something like that. I don't know, what do you expecting.
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Speaker 2: How do you think these two statements are going to
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Speaker 2: set up the contests for the election?
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Speaker 6: Yea, No, Look, I think I think the election this
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Speaker 6: time round and the election period with the leading of
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Speaker 6: a budget and what you would hope is a fairly
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Speaker 6: significant policy contribution from Peter Dutton because he's now starting
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Speaker 6: to recriticize for his own backbench for the smallest of
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Speaker 6: small targets. So I think these two statements and then
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Speaker 6: the four to five weeks that will follow will probably
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Speaker 6: be the most impactful in terms of voter perception and
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Speaker 6: the actual outcome of the election. So I think this
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Speaker 6: is a fascinating week. Both sides have got to set
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Speaker 6: their positions up, you know, and then get out there.
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Speaker 6: The danger for Dutton, and I think we've talked about
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Speaker 6: it in the past, is I haven't got enough out
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Speaker 6: there within three weeks. I think Petokredlin was just saying
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Speaker 6: it was in three weeks pre pole voting will start
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Speaker 6: and so it will be a challenge to Peter Dutton
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Speaker 6: to really sell his message with three weeks only before
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Speaker 6: pre pole and postal voting start. So I think the
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Speaker 6: campaign is going to be fascinating. I think it'll be
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Speaker 6: one of the most interesting, and any slip up by
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Speaker 6: either leader it could be decisive. I mean, Albo, we
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Speaker 6: all remember had a bit of a tough first week
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Speaker 6: court COVID was out of it for first two weeks.
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Speaker 2: But that sort of.
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Speaker 6: Slip up by either leader could be decisive in terms
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Speaker 6: of who gets to seventy seventy one Albow or Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 2: Well, actually, I've got to point out that getting COVID
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Speaker 2: was not a bad thing for him because when he
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Speaker 2: was off the campaign trail his numbers went up. It
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Speaker 2: was when he was campaigning that it went down.
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Speaker 6: Michael Craigan, what I'm going to deny that we had
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Speaker 6: the COVID injection ready to go? I am denying impactly
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Speaker 6: that that was a Labor party yard.
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Speaker 2: Very cool. Well, if he gets COVID again, I know
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Speaker 2: we're to blame. Anyway, What do you make of this?
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Speaker 6: I think my credibility might be slipping at that point
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Speaker 6: if he gets COVID again.
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Speaker 7: Michael, We'll look Andrew. You know this is going to
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Speaker 7: be an important work. Obviously, the budget tomorrow night. We
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Speaker 7: know a lot about already Petter Dutton's reply on Thursday,
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Speaker 7: it will be critical to his election chances. You read
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Speaker 7: between the two leaves today there's going to be a
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Speaker 7: big announcement about gas, so I think there should be
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Speaker 7: something on housing as well. So you know, Peter Dutton's
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Speaker 7: favorite to win the election. He's in front in the
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Speaker 7: polls at Worse they show a three point one percent
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Speaker 7: swing to him, so I think his favorite to win.
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Speaker 7: He has gone through a lull in the last month,
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Speaker 7: but I just think that's turning back again. The more
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Speaker 7: scrutiny on the Labor government, the worse they look, and
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Speaker 7: so I think with some positive policies to do something
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Speaker 7: about cost of living, Peter Dutton's will polls will will
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Speaker 7: increase in the next few weeks.
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Speaker 2: Mate. Yeah, I wonder whether the spear campaign against Stutton
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Speaker 2: picked too early because I just think they've thrown the
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Speaker 2: worst though would imagine it's their worst. We don't know.
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Speaker 2: He's gone through that, gone through the fire, so let's
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Speaker 2: see you during the campaign. Federal teal MP Monique Ryan
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Speaker 2: in Suffolk. She holds another seat that the Liberals would
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Speaker 2: have to win and she has already had a tangle
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Speaker 2: with young Liberal campaigners is a few weeks ago accused
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Speaker 2: of shouting at the teenagers. I don't know the truth
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Speaker 2: of all that, but now, husband, I do know the
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Speaker 2: truth of this. Has been caught taking a sign of
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Speaker 2: Ryan's opponent, Liberal Candidamelia Haymer, not that he wants her
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Speaker 2: to admit exactly who he was here is So hang on, mate,
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Speaker 2: what are you doing?
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Speaker 8: I'm taking the side out?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, beg you pardon it's I'm taking the sideout. What
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Speaker 2: are you doing that for? Because it's on public land
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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying here I am.
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Speaker 4: Who are you?
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Speaker 2: Or you're wearing a teal t I'll start to film you.
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Speaker 2: Are you? Moniq Ryan? Support of ripping down people's signs?
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Speaker 5: Are you?
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Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing?
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Speaker 2: It belongs to me. Hey, you can take it off.
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Speaker 1: The property, but it belongs to me.
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Speaker 2: If it goes back up, it'll be taken down again.
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Speaker 2: There you go, Monique Ryan, There you go, community values.
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Speaker 2: Well done, mate, it's on it's a legally put up sign.
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Speaker 8: Anyone can take it down because it's illegal.
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Speaker 1: And who are you?
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Speaker 2: It's a legally put up sign.
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Speaker 9: If you want to put up a legal sign, anyone.
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Speaker 2: Will take it down who you're acting on behalf of
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Speaker 2: I'm not acting on behalf of anyone made. Actually it's
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Speaker 2: for the counsel to take it down, not a passer
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Speaker 2: by the guy filming that was the son of the
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Speaker 2: property and who were asked for that sign they were
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Speaker 2: about to move. It should have been it was put
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Speaker 2: up incorrectly. Both Ryan and husband have now apologized. Stephen
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Speaker 2: in the story, well, look, I'd love it.
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Speaker 6: I mean it was quite comical and unfortunately it's not
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Speaker 6: the first time this has happened or even been caught
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Speaker 6: on camera. I think somebody well known to the three
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Speaker 6: of us uh One's got caught on camera possibly taking
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Speaker 6: some signs down, and the police were ultimately involved, and
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Speaker 6: they were quite high profile and their partner was very
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Speaker 6: high profile. So all parties get silly at this stage
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Speaker 6: of election campaign. It's it's not something anyone can condone.
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Speaker 6: It's usually just a random act of stupidity. And look,
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Speaker 6: I think it'll you know, it'll run tomorrow, it's great
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Speaker 6: TV tonight and by you know, Thursday Friday, it'll be forgotten,
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Speaker 6: just as a good comedic life, which is where it belongs.
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Speaker 1: But great work by the guide.
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Speaker 2: Loved it. Happened in campaigns.
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Speaker 7: No, it's not one of the things that has happened
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Speaker 7: at all. This fellow, my Ryan's husband said, said it
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Speaker 7: was a mistake. No, mister Jordan, it wasn't a mistake.
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Speaker 7: It was deliberate, my friend. You didn't trip over to sign,
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Speaker 7: you goose. You deliberately went and took down that sign.
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Speaker 7: And this fellow, by the way, Monique Ryan, Monique Ryan's
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Speaker 7: campaign and particularly her husband, mister Jordan needs to file
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Speaker 7: an affidavit. He needs to file an affidavit with a
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Speaker 7: Victoria with the AEC stating that he has not taken
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Speaker 7: down any other signs.
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Speaker 1: Because a large.
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Speaker 7: Number of Emilia Hamer's signs have gone.
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Speaker 2: Missing or have been defaced.
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Speaker 1: It would be an extraordinary.
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Speaker 7: Stroke of luck that the only time he did this
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Speaker 7: he was caught on camera on a Saturday afternoon in
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Speaker 7: the middle of the day. So this fellow Jordan needs
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Speaker 7: to needs to set out, he needs to set out,
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Speaker 7: needs to set out has he been moved going around
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Speaker 7: removing these signs of Emitia Hamer, Because I think that's
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Speaker 7: a very serious thing and quite frankly, we need to
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Speaker 7: know whether he is the person behind this removal of
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Speaker 7: these signs, and you know you need to be careful
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Speaker 7: in these situations, of course, Andrew, because there are cameras
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Speaker 7: on some of these signs, and maybe some people have
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Speaker 7: been filmed removing emrely Hamer's signs. So I'm not saying
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Speaker 7: he has been Necessarily, it'd be good for him to
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Speaker 7: file an after David Andrew, Well, look it might be.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was a particular peculiarly brazen
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Speaker 2: attempt to do this but got no evidence. Mutual middle
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Speaker 2: of the Nights.
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Speaker 1: That's true. Mutual friends, labor labor man. Stephen, a mutual
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Speaker 1: friend is a labor man.
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Speaker 2: I should have said that too, exactly correct, gentlemen. Thank
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Speaker 2: you very much to you both. I'll tell you what
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Speaker 2: the Brisbane Olympics, to be held in seven years time
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Speaker 2: suddenly got a lot more interesting. The state government has
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Speaker 2: tipped to announce it to now tomorrow that rowing events
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Speaker 2: are going to be held up at Rockhampton on the
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Speaker 2: Fitzroy River there, which happens to be a home to
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Speaker 2: crocodiles like the one that caught a dog last January,
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Speaker 2: like the ones that have caused the membership of the
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Speaker 2: Rockhampton water Ski Club to drop last year.
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Speaker 9: We had a large crocodile removed here last year which
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Speaker 9: we wanted to remove so that people could recreate on
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Speaker 9: the river without fear of having a human crocodile interaction.
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Speaker 2: Now it's true that have been rowing events on the
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Speaker 2: river without anyone being eaten, but you don't have to
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Speaker 2: be Captain Hook to know that the thought of a
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Speaker 2: croc in the river might help to set a lot
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Speaker 2: more rowing records. Joining me is John Lever, who's the
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Speaker 2: owner of Karana Hot Crocodile Farm, which is just outside Rockhampton. John,
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Speaker 2: great to talk to. You love your farm the Fitzroy River.
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Speaker 2: Are the many crocs there?
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Speaker 8: Well, they're growing in number and they've got a good
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Speaker 8: breeding ground further up the river, not in Rocky for
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Speaker 8: further up the river, and of course with the seasonal
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Speaker 8: flooding you get distribution of crocodile's coming down down the
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Speaker 8: river every season. So yeah, there are crocs there, there's
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Speaker 8: no doubt about it, and there's been if you're removed
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Speaker 8: in the last few years. I caught my first croc
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Speaker 8: in the Fitzroy in nineteen eighty two, shortly after we'd
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Speaker 8: started here and had just even the farmer's dog and
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Speaker 8: he was a bit upset about that. And this is
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Speaker 8: all within the recreational area of Rocky, so something needs
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Speaker 8: to be done about ensuring that people can still recreate
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Speaker 8: in that area.
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Speaker 2: Cheer. I thought this was a far fetched thing, but
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Speaker 2: there you go. Listen, Well, how do you do that?
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Speaker 2: How can you make a river safe enough for foreign
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Speaker 2: rows to come down and row their road there.
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Speaker 8: Well, obviously, if there's a potential threat, it's got to
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Speaker 8: be removed. That means there has to be embark on
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Speaker 8: a survey process and a trapping process and remove any
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Speaker 8: crocodiles within that area. It's a fabulous river and it's
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Speaker 8: the ideal place for an Olympic growing event. It's spectacular,
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Speaker 8: it really is, and we'd hate to think that it
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Speaker 8: wasn't going to be there the choice simply because of
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Speaker 8: one or two crocs. Those crocs can be removed. It
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Speaker 8: takes an effort, as it is, it doesn't everywhere else
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Speaker 8: in Darwin. They've got boats and men everywhere about forty
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Speaker 8: tracks out in Darwin Harbor just constantly baited there to
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Speaker 8: get the crops. We can do the same thing if
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Speaker 8: we have a change in category in the Indiviituary River.
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Speaker 2: That sounds great, John, and you're the kroc expert, But
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Speaker 2: how can you be sure that a lazy croc doesn't
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Speaker 2: decide in the middle of a regatta to just float
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Speaker 2: down the river that they haven't been seen before, They
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Speaker 2: just go for a little wonder. You can't be assured
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Speaker 2: that there isn't a crup there, can you?
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Speaker 10: Well no, but that's those sort of hypotheses a bit
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Speaker 10: far fetched. And let me tell you, you're more likely
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Speaker 10: to run over by a bus on the way to
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Speaker 10: the boat ramp and you are to a crocodile popping
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Speaker 10: up in the middle of a rowing event.
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Speaker 8: So it's a fairly safe place. There's never been anyone
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Speaker 8: taken by a crocodile on effect Roy River. They've just
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Speaker 8: been sighted. The fruit supply in the Fitzroy is extraordinarily
21:33
Speaker 8: good for crocodiles, between bony bream and barrow money and
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Speaker 8: catfish and birds and pigs and everything else that none
21:41
Speaker 8: of those crocs go hungry, So you know, it's not
21:45
Speaker 8: as if there's a hunger attacks occurring. It's just not
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Speaker 8: happening at all. And I've put my son in a
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Speaker 8: skiff out there to right down the Fitzroy.
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Speaker 2: Good. Well, I presume that you're close to your son.
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Speaker 2: I think he works at your farm, so I presume
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Speaker 2: it's a close bond. But look, you say the crocs
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Speaker 2: are well fared. What would a kroc think of a
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Speaker 2: small boat being paddled above them in the water? Would
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Speaker 2: they think it's food?
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Speaker 8: Okay, well you've got two aspects of it here. When
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Speaker 8: a crocodile is underwater, it generally feeds out the water's edge,
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Speaker 8: their water edge feeders. Now, this rowing competition is going
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Speaker 8: to be held out and fairly deep water, in fact,
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Speaker 8: very deep water in the Fitzroy. That run where they're
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Speaker 8: going to do the rowing competition is a very deep
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Speaker 8: stretch of river. So you don't get crocodiles doing the
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Speaker 8: attacks in deep water. They do it in shallow water
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Speaker 8: at the water's edge. That's why they define their territory.
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Speaker 8: They've got little glands under the chin here that pop out.
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Speaker 8: They produce a pheromone. They place that on the bank,
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Speaker 8: on trees and rocks and things like that, So they
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Speaker 8: mark their territory like dogs do on every lamp post tree.
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Speaker 8: So crocodiles have a way of marking their territory as well,
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Speaker 8: and it's at the water's edge, so the attacks that
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Speaker 8: occur are not territorial attacks if the people are in
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Speaker 8: deep water, and it's unlikely there would be one hundred
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Speaker 8: attacks occur. We have a threat with females defending her
23:20
Speaker 8: looking after a nest or a baby's that's got to
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Speaker 8: be dealt with. And I'm sure if they made that
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Speaker 8: in an active removal so that stretch of the river
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Speaker 8: could be cleaned up in a couple of years.
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Speaker 2: John Lever, I think you've reassured us, but are not
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure about it, to be honest. Thank
23:40
Speaker 2: you so much in ded for your time. Really appreciate
23:43
Speaker 2: your expertise. After the break, Australia is in real danger
23:49
Speaker 2: right now, as you know, China the whole thing. So
23:53
Speaker 2: what does the Albanezi government do about it in this budget? Well,
23:56
Speaker 2: I've got to tell you it seems rather pathetic dangerous.
24:04
Speaker 2: I saw last week the most embarrassing interview by the
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Speaker 2: dumbest diplomat or someone pretended be one. Steve Whitcoff is
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Speaker 2: actually just the real estate guy and Donald Trump's golfing
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Speaker 2: buddy who donated millions to the US president's campaign, Yet
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Speaker 2: Trump chose Whitcoff to handle the two deadliest foreign crises around.
24:24
Speaker 2: Witcoff is now Trump's special envoy to the Middle East,
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Speaker 2: trying to win the war hamasteris start against Israel, and
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Speaker 2: it's twice visited Moscow to US Russian President of Ladimir
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Speaker 2: Putin to agreed. It was this far in the war
24:34
Speaker 2: he started in Ukraine. Now it was bad enough that
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Speaker 2: Whitcoff agreed on Friday to be interviewed by Tucker Carlson,
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Speaker 2: a pro Putin schill who claims that a demon attacked
24:45
Speaker 2: him in his bed and left claw marks. Is that nuts?
24:48
Speaker 2: But worse was that Whitkoff also parrotied Putin's spin about
24:52
Speaker 2: Ukrainian territory rightfully belonging to Russia, although he couldn't actually
24:56
Speaker 2: remember which regions of Ukraine and once and what which
25:03
Speaker 2: Trump is considering letting him have.
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Speaker 11: I think the largest issue in that conflict are these
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Speaker 11: so called four regions don Bas, Crimea, you know the names, Hugansk,
25:18
Speaker 11: and there's two others. They're Russian speaking. There have been
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Speaker 11: referendums where the overwhelming majority of the people have indicated
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Speaker 11: that they want to be under Russian rule. I think
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Speaker 11: that's the key issue in the conflict.
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Speaker 2: In fact, Russia claims five regions, not four, none called
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Speaker 2: don bas Is, Crimea in the south and Zavizya, donetsks
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Speaker 2: Kison and Luhansk in the east, and that referendum claims
25:47
Speaker 2: shows people in his regions just wanted to join Russia.
25:50
Speaker 2: They were a fraud. They were held at gunpoint in
25:52
Speaker 2: areas that Russia captured and were clearly read. In contrast,
25:57
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety one, there was a real referendum in
25:59
Speaker 2: Ukraine's Indi pendants, with more than eighty three percent of
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Speaker 2: people in those eastern regions voted to be Ukrainian. And finally,
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Speaker 2: Witkoff truly shaned himself by acting like a total dupe.
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Speaker 2: A Putin fanboy.
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Speaker 11: I liked him, yep. I thought he was straight up
26:17
Speaker 11: with me. It was enormously gracious for him to accept me.
26:19
Speaker 11: I don't regard Putin as a bad guy.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how gullible is this guy? I mean Putin
26:26
Speaker 2: has invaded Georgia, Invader Chech dear evaded Ukraine twice to
26:30
Speaker 2: spent the past weeks attacking Ukrainian civilian targets with hundreds
26:34
Speaker 2: and hundreds of drones and missiles, has killed dozens of
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Speaker 2: his own critics, opposition politicians and journalists. And this clown
26:41
Speaker 2: viittkof like Simpsons, is not a bad guy. And the
26:46
Speaker 2: final excerpts from this disgraceful interview, I mean, let me
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Speaker 2: show you how easy it is for a war criminal
26:53
Speaker 2: like Putin to make Vitkoff, this amateur think wow, Putin's
27:00
Speaker 2: nice guy.
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Speaker 11: President Putin had commissioned a beautiful portrait of the President
27:07
Speaker 11: Trump from the leading Russian artist and actually gave it
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Speaker 11: to me and asked me to take it home to
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Speaker 11: President Trump, which I brought home and delivered him. It's
27:15
Speaker 11: been reported in the paper, but it was such a
27:16
Speaker 11: gracious moment. And told me a story Tucker about how
27:22
Speaker 11: when the president was shot, he went to his local
27:25
Speaker 11: church and met with his priest and prayed for the president,
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Speaker 11: not because he was the president of the United he
27:32
Speaker 11: could be become the president of the United States, but
27:35
Speaker 11: because he had a friendship with him and he was
27:36
Speaker 11: praying for his friend.
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Speaker 2: And he said he gave the painting to Trump, who
27:41
Speaker 2: was touched. Join me again back from his sabbatical at last,
27:46
Speaker 2: is the country's top foreign affairs writer Greg Sheridan of
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Speaker 2: The Australian, Greg, great to see you back again. How
27:54
Speaker 2: can Donald Trump have this clown negotiate with ledding me
27:59
Speaker 2: a put In, one of the worlds most cunning dictators.
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Speaker 12: Well, Andrew, it's great to be with you, and you've
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Speaker 12: done a real public service by playing excerpts of that interview.
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Speaker 2: It was frankly.
28:10
Speaker 12: Grotesque, embarrassing and shaming, which Koff has credibility simply because
28:17
Speaker 12: Trump kind of cashes his checks. Trump takes him seriously
28:22
Speaker 12: as a nettle locketter, which he doesn't seem to do
28:24
Speaker 12: with Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. You know, the
28:27
Speaker 12: Panamanian government made agreements with Rubio which counted for nothing
28:31
Speaker 12: with Trump, and I predict Rubio won't last four years
28:34
Speaker 12: with Trump. But that was simply grotesque. It's almost beyond words.
28:41
Speaker 12: I mean Putin. There was one real Christian leader in Russia,
28:46
Speaker 12: Alexi Navelni, inspired by the Sermon on the Mount to
28:49
Speaker 12: go back and face down Putin's aggression, and Putin had
28:53
Speaker 12: him viciously, cruelly and stadistically murdered in prison. But Putin
28:58
Speaker 12: tells this dingbat that he's praying for Trump and Apparently
29:03
Speaker 12: Trump's imperial ego is so vast that if you pay
29:08
Speaker 12: that kind of tribute, it earns you favor. And you know,
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Speaker 12: Andrew like you. I am broadly a critic of the left,
29:15
Speaker 12: and I always thought conspiracies and derangement had their natural
29:20
Speaker 12: political home on the left. But I have to say
29:22
Speaker 12: a lot of folks who were previously people I had
29:26
Speaker 12: some time for, have become grotesque now in their susceptibility
29:32
Speaker 12: to conspiracy. Their worship of power figures their complete absence
29:38
Speaker 12: of morality. A lot of people who thought the Trump
29:41
Speaker 12: election was a good idea, people like Neil Ferguson, Douglas Murray, Ambrose,
29:46
Speaker 12: Evans Pritchard, Charles Moore, were horrified by Trump's treatment of Zelensky,
29:52
Speaker 12: and that surely has got to be the most embarrassing
29:54
Speaker 12: TV interview we've ever witnessed.
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Speaker 2: I think so Liz Purtin knows now how to get
30:02
Speaker 2: a deal out of Trump. He could arrange for a
30:04
Speaker 2: gold statue of Donald Trump to be in Red Square,
30:08
Speaker 2: and that will make up for all the torture chambers
30:11
Speaker 2: that he had in Ukraine, and all the cities is
30:14
Speaker 2: level and all the people is killed. I mean it's
30:16
Speaker 2: just serious. Is this really the world we're living in?
30:19
Speaker 2: It's just insane. But to come back to Australia, greg
30:24
Speaker 2: our politicians agree that we've never been more threatened in war.
30:28
Speaker 2: It's been not for decades. At least we've got Donald
30:32
Speaker 2: Trump in this case, rightly demanding that his allies like
30:35
Speaker 2: us pay more to defend themselves stop harding behind America.
30:39
Speaker 2: So today Defense mister Richard Marles announced that he will
30:42
Speaker 2: spend about one and a the what is a ten
30:48
Speaker 2: and a half billion dollars he promised over ten years over,
30:53
Speaker 2: But it's going to spend it a bit quicker. It's
30:55
Speaker 2: going to spend a billion more of that over the
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Speaker 2: next four years. Is this spending it expect when we're
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Speaker 2: so threatened?
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Speaker 6: Now?
31:05
Speaker 12: This is a pathetic performance by the Albanese government. And
31:08
Speaker 12: I wrote in The Australian today that Peter Dutton has
31:12
Speaker 12: to stand up and promise at least two point five
31:14
Speaker 12: percent of GDP on defense within his first parliamentary term
31:18
Speaker 12: or he's just as big a fraud as labor. Is
31:21
Speaker 12: what labor has done here? Has it has refused to
31:25
Speaker 12: increase defense expenditure at all? Because this is not a
31:28
Speaker 12: billion dollars of new money. As you say, they're just
31:31
Speaker 12: bringing forward some of the money in forward estimates. They
31:34
Speaker 12: claim they're going to spend fifty billion dollars over the
31:36
Speaker 12: next ten years. But this doesn't start until the significant
31:40
Speaker 12: part of this doesn't start until the last year of
31:42
Speaker 12: their second term and the first year of their third term.
31:46
Speaker 12: You've got a judge a government on what it does,
31:48
Speaker 12: not what it says. And what it has done is
31:51
Speaker 12: take last year, defense spending was one point nine to
31:54
Speaker 12: nine percent of GDP. This year it'll be two point
31:57
Speaker 12: zero one percent. No one in the world that's adequate.
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Speaker 12: So the Albanese government today has spat in the face
32:03
Speaker 12: of the Trump administration. It's spat in the face of
32:06
Speaker 12: strategic reality, and it's demonstrated that Richard Marles is a
32:10
Speaker 12: completely impotent defense minister. It apparently hopes that Trump will
32:14
Speaker 12: just not notice this, And of course it's trying to
32:17
Speaker 12: bribe America by contributing a few billion dollars towards its
32:22
Speaker 12: submarine building industry. But this is the most derelict and
32:26
Speaker 12: irresponsible behavior by an Australian government you could ever possibly imagine.
32:32
Speaker 12: And I must say it is also a poor reflection
32:36
Speaker 12: on the opposition that they can't make an issue out
32:39
Speaker 12: of this. They talk big in a way on security,
32:44
Speaker 12: but they don't want to have the debate about what
32:46
Speaker 12: it will cost to build a deterrent capability for Australia
32:51
Speaker 12: because that means spending real money and neither side of
32:54
Speaker 12: politics is willing.
32:54
Speaker 2: To do that.
32:55
Speaker 12: They're all hot air, or as Kim Beasley put it,
32:58
Speaker 12: they're all pis and wind.
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Greg, I think the problem might be even be
33:05
Speaker 2: more profound that culturally we've become a country that doesn't
33:08
Speaker 2: value the defense of this country, doesn't even produce enough
33:12
Speaker 2: soldiers prepared to defend this country. I note again that
33:18
Speaker 2: more Muslim Australians fought for the Islamic State than fought
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Speaker 2: in the Australian Army at that time. We're in a
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Speaker 2: real pickle, and the thing is there are no votes
33:30
Speaker 2: in it. There's never a vote in the defense, it seems,
33:33
Speaker 2: until you really need the bullets and it's all too late. Meanwhile, China,
33:38
Speaker 2: let it be Putin's ally. I thought this was really extraordinary, Greg.
33:42
Speaker 2: It's unveil the slatest weapon according to our China Morning posts,
33:46
Speaker 2: the Deep Sea cable cutter that can be fitted to
33:49
Speaker 2: even unmanned submarines to cut the undersea data cables linking countries.
33:55
Speaker 2: You know, the cables that pass on Internet traffic, for instance,
33:58
Speaker 2: like the ones between US and US and onto America.
34:01
Speaker 2: Chinese ships are ready cut cables in Europe and off Taiwan.
34:05
Speaker 2: How dangerous is this development, Well.
34:09
Speaker 12: It's acutely dangerous, Andrew, and you're again doing a public
34:13
Speaker 12: service by drawing attention to it. So you look at
34:15
Speaker 12: the panoply of Chinese actions over the last few years.
34:18
Speaker 12: They've built deep bomb resistant bunkers for their leadership. They've
34:24
Speaker 12: built satellite destroying capabilities. So if there should ever be
34:28
Speaker 12: God forbid a military conflict between China and the United States,
34:32
Speaker 12: or between China and US, the first thing they'll do
34:35
Speaker 12: is destroy all the communications satellites, so all our high
34:38
Speaker 12: tech gear will be blinded. They can cut all the
34:41
Speaker 12: deep sea cables. Now, they can mine our harbors. They
34:44
Speaker 12: have very extensive smart mind capabilities. Now we're the twelfth
34:48
Speaker 12: or thirteenth biggest economy in the world. We can't match China,
34:52
Speaker 12: but we can put a very high price on ourselves
34:56
Speaker 12: if we invest in missiles and drones and asymmetric capabilities,
35:02
Speaker 12: but we're just doing nothing. And here again, although the
35:05
Speaker 12: Albanese government is totally culpable under a critical of the opposition,
35:09
Speaker 12: it has not built any case for reform. You know,
35:12
Speaker 12: John Howard and John Houston, god bless him, campaign for
35:16
Speaker 12: the GST, They lost an election over it, and then
35:18
Speaker 12: they implemented the GST next time. It's the last economic
35:21
Speaker 12: reform we've had. This opposition talks big on some aspects
35:26
Speaker 12: of security, but it hasn't mounted a case on why
35:29
Speaker 12: we need an Australian defense force with certain capabilities. Hez
35:34
Speaker 12: Bala can have two hundred thousand missiles. We can barely
35:37
Speaker 12: have two hundred if we had ten to twenty thousand
35:39
Speaker 12: missiles based in Northern Australia. Chinese military forces have to
35:44
Speaker 12: think twice about misbehaving with Australia. As it is, we
35:48
Speaker 12: need Virgin Virgin Airlines pilots to tell us when the
35:52
Speaker 12: Chinese are interrupting flights between Australia.
35:56
Speaker 2: And New Zealand.
35:57
Speaker 12: Our ADF has become execrepit. This government does nothing about
36:01
Speaker 12: it and the opposition doesn't campaign on it.
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Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, it's great to have you back. I can
36:08
Speaker 2: see you fire it up for the fight despite having
36:12
Speaker 2: chilled out for so long. Really appreciate your contributions. Thank
36:15
Speaker 2: you after the break. Why do so many women vote
36:20
Speaker 2: for the Greens when men can see that they're weird
36:23
Speaker 2: and even wicked. Just back to that husband of Teals
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Speaker 2: independent Monique Ryan Peter Jordan stealing a campaign post of
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Speaker 2: promoting Ryan's liberal opponent, Amelia Haimer.
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Speaker 8: Oh, I'm not saying who I am?
36:45
Speaker 2: What happened to his wife's demand for transparency and openness.
36:51
Speaker 4: Democracy is under threat globally, and what we acknowledge is
36:54
Speaker 4: a post truth world speaker. We can combat cynicism and
36:58
Speaker 4: disbelief only by committing to openness.
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Speaker 2: John miss the panel This story of the late debate
37:05
Speaker 2: here on Sky weekdays at ten pm. Stepha Trevoua, an
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Speaker 2: author and senior lecture and History Campion College. Stephen Ray
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Speaker 2: and her husband have now apologized. The pology accepted.
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Speaker 13: Well, no, because they haven't explained really what happened. And
37:21
Speaker 13: you're quite right, she's been talking for years about openness
37:25
Speaker 13: and transparency. In fact, if you go to her website
37:27
Speaker 13: right now, you'll see on a heading integrity and Honesty
37:31
Speaker 13: in politics, She writes, faith in democracy depends on politicians
37:36
Speaker 13: being honest, transparent, responsive, and accountable. She hasn't really demonstrated
37:41
Speaker 13: any of that, so I think a couple of questions
37:43
Speaker 13: are worth asking, Namely, did she know did she put
37:46
Speaker 13: her husband up to this? And second, is this his
37:50
Speaker 13: first time? Or like all people who are caught red handed,
37:56
Speaker 13: is it his first time?
37:57
Speaker 1: Would he claim that this is his first time?
37:58
Speaker 13: These are questions worth asking In the polls, as you know,
38:01
Speaker 13: about four out of the six Teals really declining.
38:04
Speaker 1: In fact among Teal electorates.
38:06
Speaker 13: Teal voters are now saying that among Teal electorates that
38:11
Speaker 13: the climate is number four in their list of priorities now,
38:14
Speaker 13: so they may not do so well the next election.
38:16
Speaker 13: So the people who decide whether she pays or not
38:18
Speaker 13: make she be the voters in her electorate.
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Speaker 1: Coming up, Liz, what do you make of this?
38:25
Speaker 2: Apologize? Move on? What it's the story.
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Speaker 14: They're not sorry they did it, They're just sorry they
38:32
Speaker 14: got caught and drew. But as someone who's worked for
38:34
Speaker 14: three liberal MPs over the course of eight years in
38:38
Speaker 14: a former life, I can tell you this is so commonplace,
38:43
Speaker 14: this subterfuge that goes on even before an election is called.
38:47
Speaker 14: There's like this unofficial turf wall when it comes to
38:51
Speaker 14: placard placement, and there's a lot of people who engage
38:56
Speaker 14: in this. This guy was just dumb enough to do
38:59
Speaker 14: it in the old, hard light of day with a
39:02
Speaker 14: sign so huge, while wearing the colors of the incumbent.
39:09
Speaker 14: I mean this, someone needs to make a comic about this,
39:12
Speaker 14: because that's how funny it is what most of them do.
39:16
Speaker 14: When they see a massive sign like this that they
39:18
Speaker 14: believe to be placed somewhere where it's not allowed to
39:21
Speaker 14: be placed it's public land, they simply slap up one
39:25
Speaker 14: of their own. So it's more like an unspoken agreement
39:29
Speaker 14: to let's break the rules together, because if you've got
39:33
Speaker 14: one up there, I've got one up there, and nobody's
39:36
Speaker 14: getting the upper hand. And of course a lot of
39:39
Speaker 14: councils they don't have the staff to put up with
39:41
Speaker 14: this every election cycle, and so in many cases they're
39:45
Speaker 14: just left.
39:46
Speaker 1: Up there until the election's over.
39:49
Speaker 2: You spot on the middle of the day wearing teal
39:52
Speaker 2: colors a huge sign, You couldn't miss him. The only
39:56
Speaker 2: thing he could have added was, you know, a flashing
39:58
Speaker 2: light on the top of his head just to say,
40:01
Speaker 2: look what I'm doing. Shameless, absolutely shambless. Stephen, you're into
40:08
Speaker 2: the you know a bit about religion, It's well established.
40:12
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know a lot of surveys over time
40:15
Speaker 2: that women are more likely to be religious or spiritual,
40:18
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. Do you think that explains
40:21
Speaker 2: the latest newspot data which says that the Greens get
40:24
Speaker 2: the votes of fifteen percent of women but only nine
40:28
Speaker 2: percent of men.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, the connection may be that women are much more
40:34
Speaker 13: likely to identify as highly empathetic and highly compassionate, much
40:38
Speaker 13: more likely to identify that.
40:39
Speaker 1: Way than men are.
40:41
Speaker 13: And what we've seen in terms of leftist politics over
40:44
Speaker 13: the last twenty years, especially over the last ten years,
40:46
Speaker 13: they've changed their language and now they employ a lot.
40:49
Speaker 1: Of therapeutic, empathetic language.
40:52
Speaker 13: So the buzzwords of leftism over the last ten years,
40:54
Speaker 13: especially the last five years, have been things like empathy, compassion, inclusivity,
41:02
Speaker 13: you know, all the kind of feel good words that
41:04
Speaker 13: would appeal to someone who's sort of a deep sort
41:07
Speaker 13: of EmPATH and that actually might have a lot to
41:09
Speaker 13: do with it. They've sort of deliberately tried to appeal
41:12
Speaker 13: to women, and I think that's probably got a lot
41:14
Speaker 13: to do with it, to be honest.
41:16
Speaker 2: Liz, is that I mean, what's sympathetic about whipping up,
41:20
Speaker 2: helping her whip up this culture of hatred of Israel
41:24
Speaker 2: which anti Semis are feeding off. I mean, what is it?
41:28
Speaker 14: Indeed, But as doctor Shivra says, it's never sold that way.
41:32
Speaker 14: Even even that issue is sold as this is just empathy.
41:37
Speaker 14: Where for the people of Gaza, et cetera, and so on,
41:40
Speaker 14: it's never actually except for the overt ones obviously that
41:45
Speaker 14: are just downright anti Semitic, and we talk about them
41:48
Speaker 14: at length, but for the most part, it's sold to people,
41:52
Speaker 14: to Green's voters as where for the underdog, and the
41:56
Speaker 14: underdog in this situation are the people of Palestine and
41:59
Speaker 14: therefore or even on that topic, same with abortion, same
42:03
Speaker 14: with youth in Asia, it's all about compassion and because
42:07
Speaker 14: women are far more emotional human beings. Doctor Shavro said
42:10
Speaker 14: it far nicer, but we are. We're far more emotional
42:14
Speaker 14: human beings, and the Left are very very adept at
42:18
Speaker 14: appealing to emotions. The facts and figures of a case
42:21
Speaker 14: be dead, and that does tend to work on women.
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Speaker 2: Liz yeah, I know, I know, but it's the consequences
42:31
Speaker 2: I don't. It's said Listoris the travoura. Thank you to
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Speaker 2: you both after the break. What conservatives have to realize
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Speaker 2: about Donald Trump. It's true, it's destroying the lift at home.
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Speaker 2: The look how it's helping the left everywhere else. We
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Speaker 2: have a problem. Now. Look, I support Donald Trump's policies
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Speaker 2: on israel, I, support US war and woke, making Europe
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Speaker 2: pay more for its own defense all that, but every
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Speaker 2: conservative cheering everything Trump does should also realize this. Trump
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Speaker 2: is helping left wing leaders around the West get re
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Speaker 2: elected by attacking their countries, making them look like defenders
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Speaker 2: of the nation. It's definitely helping labor here, which is
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Speaker 2: why it's painting Peter dutness of any Trump, which he isn't.
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Speaker 2: It's also helped Canada's hopelessly left wing Liberal government, which
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Speaker 2: was heading for a landslide defeat until Trump said he'd
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Speaker 2: destroy Canada's economy with tariffs to make it become America's
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Speaker 2: fifty first state. Now the Liberal's vote is more than double,
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Speaker 2: and the new prime minister has just called the staff
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Speaker 2: election for next month, saying Trump is the issue.
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Speaker 15: President Trump claims that Canada isn't a real country. He
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Speaker 15: wants to break us, so America can own us. We
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Speaker 15: will not let that happen.
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Speaker 2: Same thing in Britain. Trump's attacks on Europe has made
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Speaker 2: the labor government Keys Starmer look like, well it's the
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Speaker 2: tough guys. They're the ones going to replace America's Europe's
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Speaker 2: defender and their numbers rising. Joining me from London's writer
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Speaker 2: Collinson Presenter is the correct the Donald Trump is defending
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Speaker 2: the left in the US, but he is helping lifting
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Speaker 2: leaders overseas. Tell us what's going on.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, So we've now seen that many sort of right
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Speaker 16: center parties in Britain and Canada in Australia have to
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Speaker 16: tread a very fine line because to make people like
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Speaker 16: Mark Carney, who was Governor of the Bank of England
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Speaker 16: from twenty thirteen to twenty twenty. So US Brits really
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Speaker 16: do sympathize with the hell of a choice that the
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Speaker 16: Canadians are about to face.
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Speaker 1: It is quite quite a feat.
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Speaker 16: I mean, you know, this is a liberal party that
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Speaker 16: was heading for defeat and now because of Trump's really
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Speaker 16: we can described as trolling, calling Canada's fifty first state.
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Speaker 16: He seems like a competent and strong leader. And it's
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Speaker 16: whether these countries, whether Australia, whether Canada, whether Britain, ru
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Speaker 16: you know, this this establishment, these these these parties that
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Speaker 16: have put them through hell for the last decade, particularly
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Speaker 16: during COVID. I mean when when Mark Carney was the
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Speaker 16: Governor of the Bank of England, we basically saw no growth.
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Speaker 16: His management of Britain's money supply led to catastrophic decisions
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Speaker 16: and basically business is boring on the cheap and not
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Speaker 16: having to grow and innovate at Britain's expense. So it's
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Speaker 16: important for these countries to remember that. And what the
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Speaker 16: challenge that someone like Pierre Paulier has, who is the
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Speaker 16: leader of the opposition in Canada, is you know, actually
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Speaker 16: you know, positing himself as a strong leader that's not
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Speaker 16: necessarily going to do everything that Trump says, but is
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Speaker 16: actually going to work in the best interest of Canada,
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Speaker 16: which is actually what Trump has been saying for with
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Speaker 16: his America First policy. So it's it's quite difficult. I mean,
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Speaker 16: Nigel Faraj is facing the same issue here in Britain,
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Speaker 16: and I think Elon Musk actually almost disavowing him as
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Speaker 16: leader of the Reform Party helps him a little bit
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Speaker 16: because at least Brits can't say that he's just a
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Speaker 16: puppet of Elon Musk and then by extension Trump. So
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Speaker 16: it's really, you know, a balancing app but you can
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Speaker 16: see how desperate the Liberal Party is in Canada if
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Speaker 16: this is their best shot.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, you've put your finger on there.
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Speaker 3: Esther.
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Speaker 2: I hear a lot of people who say, you know,
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Speaker 2: on the conservative side, so you know, say oh, look
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Speaker 2: we've got to be more like Trump. We've got to
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Speaker 2: praise in pray. No, you've got to learn from Trump
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Speaker 2: in this respect. Put your country first. You're not make
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Speaker 2: America grade again. You're making your own country grade again.
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Speaker 2: Your country first, and that means finding Trump quite often
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Speaker 2: on some of the things that's trying to do to you.
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Speaker 2: That is the way to be more like Trump, you know,
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Speaker 2: put your country first. And I think some of the
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Speaker 2: liberal left wing leaders have discovered that a little quicker
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Speaker 2: than some of the conservative ones exactly.
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Speaker 16: And this is the trouble that many conservative party leaders
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Speaker 16: are facing. It's how to you know, not be Trump
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Speaker 16: in all of his rhetoric, but be Trump in the
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Speaker 16: sense that you're representing your country and your country's interests
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Speaker 16: and defending your country's industries. That being said, inasmuch as
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Speaker 16: at least here in Britain and particularly in Canada as well,
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Speaker 16: inasmuch as they'll try and positive selves as adults in
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Speaker 16: the room, you have to remember that the GDP per
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Speaker 16: capita in Canada and Britain is lower than the poor
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Speaker 16: state in America.
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Speaker 2: Which is Mississippi.
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Speaker 16: So I mean, they can talk a big game, but
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Speaker 16: people don't certainly feel better off, which is an important
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Speaker 16: thing to bear in mind.
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Speaker 2: Look, that's a good point too, I have to say,
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Speaker 2: though Trump's war on woke must actually make sense in Britain.
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Speaker 2: That's one thing you can keep, you know, take from him.
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Speaker 2: When you have a Christian nurse disciplined for calling a
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Speaker 2: trans female mister when she was actually giving this trans woman,
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Speaker 2: actually a man, a catheter when the real gender that
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Speaker 2: is actually important to know in this procedure. Of course,
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Speaker 2: how crazy is this case.
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Speaker 16: I mean, one of the things that we have to
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Speaker 16: remember about this case and why it's so ridiculous is
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Speaker 16: this individual, this trans female prisoner, was escorted into the
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Speaker 16: building by two prison officers. Is in prison for groomy boys,
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Speaker 16: young boys and decided to shout to the n word,
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Speaker 16: which used to be like the ultimate sin in the
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Speaker 16: walk world. At this nurse who allegedly called him a
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Speaker 16: hymn while she was trying to put a catha inside
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Speaker 16: of him because he was complaining of youinary track problems.
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Speaker 16: And it was the nurse that was disciplined after being
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Speaker 16: racially abused. It was the nurse that phaced discipline action
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Speaker 16: by the EPSOM hospital that she works at.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's times like this we have a lot of
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Speaker 2: sympathy for Donald Trump and you just wonder what on
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Speaker 2: earth is going on. We need a big shake up there. Essakrek,
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Speaker 2: always great to talk to you. Thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for your time. That's it from me, coming up now,
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Speaker 2: Sherry Maddison, good night,