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EP 482: A Freak in the seats feat. Mr.Whatchair (Joshua Adams) · Decisions, Decisions

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: He studied me.
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  Speaker 2: He was telling me straight up, listen, man, nobody, nobody's
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: gonna want you, bro. But when you have money, you
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: can have anything you want. That pulled me in and
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: listen just a little bit different. I got this man.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: He in the chair, he just want to have a
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: good time.
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  Speaker 3: Man in a chair.
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  Speaker 4: That wasn't enough DJ, he said, wheel chair because I
• 0:22
  Speaker 4: ad think you're just sitting there.
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  Speaker 1: I think one.
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  Speaker 2: So now it's about my words. I'm very good with
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  Speaker 2: my words. So I want to draw you into who
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: I am. I want to kill the misconceptions about disability.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: Most people in disability, they think that you have to
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: be taken care of. I take care of myself period,
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  Speaker 2: in every aspect. So we can talk about the chair,
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: but we can also talk about the things that I
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: can do. And that's the conversation that I want to
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  Speaker 2: have with people. And if you have questions about what
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: I can't do, then sure I can answer that. But
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  Speaker 2: more importantly, it's about not just what Josh can do,
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  Speaker 2: but what we all can do and what we bring
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: to the.
• 1:00
  Speaker 4: Tape decisions decisions.
• 1:08
  Speaker 5: Hey guys, I'm gonna start this episode off completely inappropriately
• 1:13
  Speaker 5: by saying room, room, that is a hint to what
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  Speaker 5: this episode is about.
• 1:19
  Speaker 4: Roly no no Real.
• 1:25
  Speaker 5: Welcome guys to another episode of The Cisy Owns They Owns.
• 1:28
  Speaker 5: It's your girl, man, dB aka, I'm about to open
• 1:32
  Speaker 5: up this water based loop for Weezy so she could
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  Speaker 5: have some glistening legs, because when you don't have loation,
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  Speaker 5: what I do have in my bags is some loop.
• 1:40
  Speaker 5: So Weezy said, baby, these sighs about to be out,
• 1:43
  Speaker 5: and I need to make sure you sit.
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  Speaker 4: Down on me. Listen. I got you, I got you said,
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  Speaker 4: I got your friend. Okay, I got.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you're not my friend because based on March seventeenth,
• 1:56
  Speaker 5: I didn't get money deposited into my account.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, y'all, I'm crazy. And today we have a guest.
• 2:02
  Speaker 4: His name is josh Aka. Mister what chair, mister, what chair?
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  Speaker 4: Where you got? Mister? What chair? I see the chair?
• 2:12
  Speaker 4: But what chair?
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  Speaker 1: I mean the ladies gonna need the chair after.
• 2:16
  Speaker 5: Oh the sex operator voice. You're not gonna keep that
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  Speaker 5: up for an hour, so calm down.
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  Speaker 1: I mean me, I'm just me.
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  Speaker 4: I I can't walk.
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  Speaker 1: I better, I could turn it down. I could do
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  Speaker 1: whatever you want. Ladies, you know like that.
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  Speaker 4: Shit so I have to say this clip of you
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  Speaker 4: I saw probably four days ago and hit you up,
• 2:35
  Speaker 4: yeah and shout out to blind. But now I can now,
• 2:38
  Speaker 4: I can see we've had we've had we've had him on,
• 2:40
  Speaker 4: and we've also had friendschy on, Yes who hot wheels
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  Speaker 4: for real. By the way, this bitch told us, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you got to hear the story, Josh.
• 2:48
  Speaker 4: We were like, oh, so, was there a point where
• 2:50
  Speaker 4: where you could walk again? She was like, girl, I
• 2:51
  Speaker 4: was getting dick. I didn't want to go to physical therapy.
• 2:53
  Speaker 4: Whatever the story was. Yeah, she's crazy as hell, and
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  Speaker 4: the three of y'all together were fucking crazy. Yeah that's
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  Speaker 4: this Listen, we're gonna get into the tea. But a
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  Speaker 4: long story short. The clip I saw was you lost
• 3:06
  Speaker 4: your virginity to a prostitute and now you've godfather of
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  Speaker 4: your children. So I said, we need more. I love it,
• 3:11
  Speaker 4: long story short, because you are my friend. Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 3: This is sticky. It's not gonna be great for your life.
• 3:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, we'll skip like.
• 3:18
  Speaker 3: We're gonna skip the Loube.
• 3:19
  Speaker 5: You guys are just gonna deal with our natural skin
• 3:22
  Speaker 5: moisture oils.
• 3:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, here, all right, let's get it to it.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 4: So tell us your age, where you're from, and the
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  Speaker 4: disabilities that you do have and how long they existed.
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  Speaker 2: Were you born thirty seven from Brooklyn, New York, born
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  Speaker 2: with something called spina bifida and hydro cephalss. Spina biffit
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  Speaker 2: is when your spine is open at birth. Your spine
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  Speaker 2: has a whole bunch of nerves that help you with
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  Speaker 2: movement and feel. There's a difference between being paralyzed and
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  Speaker 2: having a neural tube disease. In my case, I am
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  Speaker 2: not paralyzed, so I have a neural tube disease with
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: with spinning bit of different levels. I have an L
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  Speaker 2: three L four degree, so that means I can't feel
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  Speaker 2: below the knee anywhere else I could feel, thank god,
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  Speaker 2: thank God.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And it's been like this then for your birth.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, since since birth?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And there's when when you're born with this, there's no
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  Speaker 3: nothing that can.
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  Speaker 2: To this day, there's no type of cure to reroute
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  Speaker 2: the nerves because when you do that, the baby could die.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Okay, So but as an adult though, I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: we've seen some crazy stuff with.
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  Speaker 1: Robots and yeah, yeah, they're listening their legs.
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  Speaker 2: They're coming up with stuff every day for me right now,
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  Speaker 2: as far as as as Joshua Michael Adams is concerned,
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  Speaker 2: I use this chair as a platform, you know. I
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  Speaker 2: let people know the core message to not be your
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  Speaker 2: own handicap. The chair was never my handicap. It was
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  Speaker 2: my way of thinking.
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  Speaker 4: So the chair does it give I'm actually curious about
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  Speaker 4: that too. How much can you do with that the chair?
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  Speaker 4: Are you using walkers, canes rails?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 2: Because I didn't have the physical therapy as much as
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to as a kid, and that.
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  Speaker 4: Was because of Cassiz assume right, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Not having the right therapy or not, you know, family
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  Speaker 2: not really engaged in getting the therapy. Putting a simple
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  Speaker 2: brace on to walk. Your body will get stronger if
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  Speaker 2: you continue doing it daily and consistently. In my case,
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  Speaker 2: that didn't happen. So I had to kind of navigate
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: through life with the chair. And then the beginning it
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: was difficult. I was still trying to find my way,
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  Speaker 2: trying to deal with this thing called disability. Understand that
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  Speaker 2: the people around me were not disabled. So now I
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  Speaker 2: got a different world looking at me, Me trying to
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  Speaker 2: fit in at a young age and trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: out what is so wrong with me that I can't
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  Speaker 2: get in there? So I found myself kind of navigating
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  Speaker 2: to my own different world, and I started with the Internet,
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  Speaker 2: going to looking at pornography and all these different things
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  Speaker 2: because I just wanted to feel good.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to feel safe.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to feel calm, and the world that I
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  Speaker 2: was in everybody rejected me.
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  Speaker 4: What age is that did you start digging into pornography?
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  Speaker 2: That was around maybe maybe eleven twelve, okay, eleven twelve,
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  Speaker 2: my teenage years. That's when it kind of heightened a
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  Speaker 2: little bit a little bit more, started, you know, really
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  Speaker 2: searching the internet, and I started to see that, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in high school. In grade school, you have these
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  Speaker 2: I like you, you like me, and I'm wondering, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I look pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Why you know?
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  Speaker 1: Why what he ain't looking at me?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't experience that, okay, And in high school, I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on here? So it really the pornography was
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  Speaker 2: like my space where I could feel accepted.
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  Speaker 5: I'm curious you saying this, right, If I go back
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  Speaker 5: to when I first started watching porn early age.
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  Speaker 3: I love big booty bitches. I liked women that looked
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  Speaker 3: like me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm curious, did you is there porn where there's people
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  Speaker 5: that look like you are? Are you able to see
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  Speaker 5: yourself in porn? I see it now, okay, But when
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  Speaker 5: you were cool, I wasn't. I wasn't looking for that.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't looking for that. Oh yeah, no, I was
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  Speaker 5: looking for the big booty.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: You know what's interesting that you just made me think of?
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  Speaker 4: Years ago? We had our first guest that uses share
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  Speaker 4: and one of the things she was saying that was
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  Speaker 4: making me laugh. She was like, girl, niggas is sick.
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  Speaker 4: They'd be like, can I come on a chair? Can?
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  Speaker 4: And she's like, it's a total fetish it really is?
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  Speaker 2: It?
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  Speaker 1: Really? Is there?
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  Speaker 4: You know watching it? Are you seeing the comments of
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  Speaker 4: them fetishizing the person?
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  Speaker 1: I see it all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I have friends that are you know, personalities on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: and you know a lot of them are women and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of dudes like, yeah, like I just want
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: to sit, I want to fuck you, want a chair,
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  Speaker 2: I want to do this to you?
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  Speaker 5: Want a chair and all of that, And I'm like,
• 8:07
  Speaker 5: but I guess it's different, right, So women in a chair.
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  Speaker 5: I am curious women in a chair get that reaction
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  Speaker 5: from men because men are sick. But when it comes
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  Speaker 5: to you, what do women s like?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 3: What are women's desires? And what have you seen in
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  Speaker 3: terms of the things that they want to do with
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  Speaker 3: you being that you're in the chair.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, as I, you know, begin exploring women
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  Speaker 2: and talking more to women. What I've noticed more about
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  Speaker 2: me was I'm a thinker. I like to get inside
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  Speaker 2: your mind. The objective is you're gonna get in that
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  Speaker 2: pussy later, but I want to see what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see how you think. I want to
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  Speaker 2: see your world. You take me to paint a picture
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  Speaker 2: for me, and if not, take me to that world.
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  Speaker 4: He said, I'm a six Take be you to your world.
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  Speaker 4: Fuck you? How many pittures you told that?
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  Speaker 2: Dude?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so then I'm curious, you said, so you started
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  Speaker 5: watching porn at eleven? Yes, ma'am, you started realizing that
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  Speaker 5: you didn't do the boyfriend girlfriend thing like your peers.
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  Speaker 4: When was your first date? Your first girlfriend?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly speaking, I can say that I've never really had
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  Speaker 2: a relationship. Still to the day, at thirty seven, thirty seven,
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  Speaker 2: I never had a relationship.
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  Speaker 4: Is it because? Would you say?
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  Speaker 2: Is it because dating is It's difficult for everybody. Let's
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  Speaker 2: be clear on that. I think in the disabled world,
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  Speaker 2: we have to start by formulating your preferences and your standards.
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  Speaker 2: So my preference is someone who is not disabled.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna get there.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, So I preference as someone who is not disabled, right,
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  Speaker 5: which what does that dating look like?
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  Speaker 1: Then?
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  Speaker 5: Like, are there women that you're coming across that want
• 9:57
  Speaker 5: disabled partners?
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  Speaker 2: Is there a dating or like there are there are
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  Speaker 2: dating apps? The names of those I don't know them more,
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  Speaker 2: and I would have to probably.
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  Speaker 4: Said I don't want you think disabled that I personally.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been on there.
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  Speaker 4: Are your pictures in your chair?
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: Is it face up? Is it selfish?
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: It's always face up to us? We out here hearing people.
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  Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, wait, hold on, see it's always face up.
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  Speaker 4: So you're not putting a chair on the profile.
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  Speaker 1: I mean most of the time, I'm always taking a self.
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  Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, So do they only know you're in
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  Speaker 3: a chair when they.
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  Speaker 4: Beat you on the day?
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know, nah, let me be clear, let me
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  Speaker 2: so so hold on, I'm very honest nowadays.
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: You know you got the emoji in your in your
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  Speaker 3: bio always I'm very clear.
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  Speaker 4: Oh way, yeah, I really want to let him into this.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: Tell me.
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: I know you've probably started in different ways, So tell
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: us about the journey of using photos and.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: So so when you see the photo, obviously you see
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: the chair. So now I know for a fact that
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: the majority of women are gonna be like, eh, not
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: my say not this. So now it's about my words.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: I'm very good with my words. So I want to
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: draw you into who I am. I want to kill
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: the misconceptions about disability. Most people in disability, they think
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: that you have to be taken care of. I take
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: care of myself period, in every aspect, live alone, I
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: give my own money, I wipe my own ass. You
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: know all these different things. And so now when you
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: see the reading, I'm going to be the one that
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: gets you because I'm the men. Now it's your choice.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue with you if you turn me down.
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  Speaker 2: But if you do, give me an opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: But when are you saying it? When? Or when they
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: get there? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So if I see somebody that's beautiful or something like that,
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna you know, I run across their bio
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  Speaker 2: and I say, oh, that's that's very captivating. On that
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  Speaker 2: caught my eye. I'll reach out, maybe send an inbox
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: to them, see what they're you know, looking like. But
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to hold that to that one person.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna shoot my shot at different different stages and see,
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  Speaker 2: you know, whatever ever made the best woman win.
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  Speaker 4: So you've had bad but you've had dates. Then you've
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: showed up in the chair and they didn't.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Know absolutely what's that reaction? Most of the time, it's like.
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  Speaker 4: But they gasped out loud.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah oh bitch, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Bitch has better learn how to guess silently.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but the right woman will gas when I
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: needed to in the right type of way.
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you so.
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  Speaker 3: I'm curious though, yes, with you being this way for
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: your entire life.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you said you take the selfies even though you're
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: in the chair, someone could assume you're.
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  Speaker 2: At a work desk, Like, they don't have to know
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: that it's a wheelchair, right if they look at the
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  Speaker 2: bio though, I'm very.
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: Your bio set.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, so the bitches just don't read that's it.
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: Curious. Now, what's the worst reaction you've had? Has someone
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: ever left?
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: No, that's happened, that hasn't happened. A lot of times,
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  Speaker 2: I've had few encounters where they're trying their best, but
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: they just can't because they're on to their preference. Their
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: preference is someone who is not in a wheelchair. And
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  Speaker 2: for me, it's like, I don't like wasting time. So
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  Speaker 2: if I can feel your vibe, I feel it's off sweet.
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  Speaker 4: But maybe it's only off because they didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: That. But I'm very intellectual and I know where to
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  Speaker 2: meet you at, so at least let's have a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Let's have a conversation. If that's not gonna go, then check.
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  Speaker 4: Please.
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  Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question, yes.
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  Speaker 5: Ma'am When you're on a date, normally there's things that
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: would be considered inappropriate to ask on a first date.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Do you find that women ask you about how to
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: navigate sex with no early on or is that a
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: later conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I think it depends on the person. For me, I'm
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: an open book, so most of the time I'll bring
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: up that conversation. Maybe not in the first date, maybe
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: after the third or fourth after I like you you
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: like me. I kind of felt your vibe. You felt
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: my vibe. I want to try to get to the
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: part where we kill the mess conceptions. I'm a freak.
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  Speaker 2: I want to make sure that you meet in my
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: life level. It's not just about on you, it's about
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: me too.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: Now, what's what what's what's the best position you could
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  Speaker 3: do in this chair?
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: Are you the work right? She gotta ride? Well?
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: For for one, this chick can recline. It can go
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: three four feet up in the air too, So we can.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: Go four feet in the air. Let me see maybe
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: not maybe not four feet?
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: But were gonna y'all you going up? Wait, look weezy
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  Speaker 1: stay y'all go see ye how many women?
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: Hey? She said? Our views going down? Y'all, y'all. We
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: gotta get we gotta get higher numbers.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: We're still going so oh, but doesn't it have a
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: wait limit? You ain't gonna.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: Do.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: I ain't gonna be able to afford to put it, y'all.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: He tall as far right?
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, now you gotta break it down. Wait, you're gonna
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: get on this goddamn chair now? If I break it?
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: How much was it?
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  Speaker 1: No?
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: She got it?
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  Speaker 5: She rich okay, let me see whet Oh this is
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: oh my god, draw draws?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you know what? Okay, hell do I want to
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: do that? Okay? Okay, okay, wait, what's vibrating this that
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: you did? We do not have an HR, so why bitch?
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: They can't you hear you? This is an audible.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Experience the denbi.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna be honest with you. That was a thrill.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that was a.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Cut. My big draws out of you. Okay, no, the draws.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you to what No Grady draws with
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: this little blood seed a feet. I couldn't take the
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: mosks because they TV. Okay, I'm not gonna hold you.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Being all the way up there, that was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 5: I to wait for you to tell your man when
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: we leave here, did you want to have a threesome
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: with a man in a wheelchair?
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Up next? He was like, do you have a limit? Push?
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Push the push the mic towards him.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, so so you do this? This is your position,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: the four feet in the air or the reclined back.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: There's many positions that I come up with. There's top three.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: You know what, though, how you how that made me
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: jump on a chair. Look, Loki, I know I'm only
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: saying it's like because yeah, I know, I'm not walking.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: I know there's certain things and you listen, like you
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: say something.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Interesting, it's something new, so it's like okay. But the
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: beautiful thing about it is that you were willing to try.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: There are some people that is like, nah, I'm not
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: gonna do it, and I respect that. But I love
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: when a woman is like, you know what, I've never
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: done this, I'm willing to take a chance. Let me
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: see what, let me see what this could do.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: You know what I love about your Like We talk
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: about preferences in a way often in dating where people
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: feel excluded or talk down on Sure. We just had
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: my best friend on who is battling cancer, and she
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: admitted that if a man told her on a date
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: that he had cancer, she doesn't think she would date him.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: So you coming in being disabled but saying like, I
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: don't prefer to day someone disabled. I love like the
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: reality of that, because even when it comes to inter
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: racial daity or you know, all the things, we assume
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: that people have to like people that are just like them.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: And so that I love that you can come in
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: and say no, like, that's not my preference.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I think we got to be honest, you know. Number one,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: we have to be honest with ourselves. So my honesty
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: for myself is like, hey, not everybody is going to
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: like me now. Is that something against me? Absolutely not.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: People have the right to choose. And even on my end,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: there are some able bodied women that may not be
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: attractive to me. And when I say attractive, I don't
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: mean just the outward appearance. I gotta be again, I
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: got to be able to get.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: In your mind.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Got them bitch is ugly, Josh, I mean facially challenged,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: fatially challenged.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Now, Okay, so Nandy asked about the chair, but I'm
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: curious about outside of the chair. Sure, so let's get
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: into it because everybody actually really wants to know.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: When it comes to sex, if you're out of the chair,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: or when you're out of the chair, excuse me, Yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: what movement do you have control of that's helpful drink sex?
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Or do you need the stability of the chair.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Well no, I don't need displeted in the chair. For me,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I work out a lot, so my upper body strength
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: is strong, so for me I'm a creator and me
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm a pleaser.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: When you see the beer, we know where you're working
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: hard up.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: What I'd love to do it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Also, Okay, you know what I'm saying. That's that's one
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: of my specialties in.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: That I ain't gonna hold you, Josh, not to be funny.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: You better be good at it because I'm really thinking
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: to myself too, Hey, yeah, you gotta know your tongue
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: in your fingers, gotta be real strong.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean like I'm trying to make sure that
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: we talk about getting it wet. My thing is, let's
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: get you soaked, let's get you drenched. You do do
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: This is the cissy old cissy hoods now so we
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: don't really be you you a little frickily. So I'm
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: curious when did you lose your virginity and.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: What was that experience?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Seventeen years old? So I'm going to give you yes young.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: At seventeen, I was just tired of being rejected. So
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I was going to college. I dropped out. I didn't
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: know too much about financial aid. What I started doing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I started hanging out in the streets. I lived in
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Kannarsi Bayview Projects, was like right next to me, and
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I met this spamp and we connected. He studied me
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and he was telling me straight up, listen, man, nobody,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: nobody's gonna want you, bro. But but when you have money,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: you can have anything you want.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: That pulled me in. He was like, yo, what you
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: want to do? I was. I said, listen, I want
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to feel things like I got.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Made a quick phone call right on the block that morning.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Did you hear what? Did he? Did you hear the call?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I heard the call, and because I need to know
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: what was he like, well, listen, it's a little bit different.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I got this man. He in the chair. He just
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: want to have a good time.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Man in a chair. That wasn't enough DJ, He said
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: wheelchair because I think you're just sitting there.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I think I think once.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Like a man of this.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I guess she kind of like in
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: her head, okay, no, no, no guy in a physical,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: regular chair, it's gonna be sitting outside of the corner.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So she had the idea that I am in a wheelchair,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and he passed me the phone. We started talking. The
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: voice was all sexy and shit, and I'm like, all right, cool,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I'll live up the street. We're gonna we're gonna go,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: We're gonna.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Do this time a jama.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm supposed to be in school, so I
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: got these hours and I'm like, listen, we're gonna get
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: this done.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay you. We're going, right. How much was
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: she two hundred dollars?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Two hundred dollars and she gave you the full experience?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Did you did you? Wow? Did you feel like she
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: was experienced enough at the time, because I know you're
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: you were a virgin, but also you know your body
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: in the chair, so did you have to do some instructing?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: No, that was a beautiful thing. She made me feel relaxed.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: She made me feel like, this is something that I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: wanted from like since a kid, to be acknowledged, to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: be loved on, to be catered to. I learned that
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: my love language is physical touch. So it wasn't just
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: about the sex.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: It was more so.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Afterwards we were laying down and she was talking and
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: she was laying her head on my chest and I'm like, wow,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: this is what I see in movies and now I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: have this full experience and right into my forehands, my hands,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: can I can I ask you a question.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: What's up a few?
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Actually, sure, because this leads into so many subjects that
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: are being discussed right now in twenty twenty six. Looking
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: at an hindsight, this was twenty years ago. Yeah, how
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: old was the sex worker?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: She was younger than me?
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: What she was younger than you? Yeah, because I'm not
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna hold you. I'm not even Josh. This is
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: so problematic. So I first thought, Okay, maybe she's twenty two,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: but you know what, I thought she was older.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: She was young, called a.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Young girl to come Bucky.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: She was younger than me, and I didn't know at
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the time until years later I did the math and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, when I met you, it was only
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: like fifteen, sixteen years old.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, where's the pit today?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I haven't been in that neighborhood.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: This is something that honestly, my life is getting better.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to lead that lifestyle a little bit, trying
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to focus on my brand more so. There's a lot
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: of people that i've you know, the season with them,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: just says ended because I.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Only asked about him. Because how I found you on
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: that clip is saying that you became the godfather to
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: her children. Yeah, how do you maintain that relationship?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Well, there were people, and she wasn't the only person.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: So at that age, from seventeen to we're talking about
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: ten years in, this is something I did. It started
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: in the projects, then ended up in the strip club.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: To the strip club, I met a famous porn star.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Now that famous porn star and are very good friends.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: We've had no type of sexual relationships, nothing like that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Can you say their name?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. Okay, Okay, yeah, I'm not
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: gonna do that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: However, I've learned with her relationship, I've learned in my
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: future moving forward, that I would meet people that would
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: really just take to my spirit.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It wasn't about money.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: It was just like the vibe and they understood my story,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: They understood my heart, and I understood them. Now, doesn't
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: mean to say that every sex worker is that type
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: of mentality. Some of most of them are vultures, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: there were a few, including this particular person, where we
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: ended the that type of relationship and we became closer
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: more like family. It sounds weird, but she was also
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: there in a time where I needed a friend. I
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: needed to protect her and so it became something that
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: was a monetary exchange to come hang out with me.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Let's just talk.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: What was the initial monetary exchange.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: But there was that phone call. It was like it
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: was we talked on the phone. How much baby, Oh,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: it's going to be this much? Well how much? How
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: much time do you want? Okay, well I want this,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I want that all right, So it be about two
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars your.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Social experience then if I if I here this right
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: for your first ten years.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all transactional.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I don't believe I've ever had yet an experience in
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a relationship where it's just we love each other and
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: oh wow, I've never had that yet.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: However, is it not common that So I did an
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: episode on a TV show where I covered sex surrogates.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: They now call them surrogate partners, which I'm sure you've
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: probably heard of. Yes, and in some states it's covered
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: through insurance. So sex surrogates are basically there to help
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: people that either have disabilities or severe trauma burns to
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: the body, different things, being able to be comfortable being
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: intimate and so knowing that they could be paid for
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: this service. But we don't look at them like maybe
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: we would look down upon a sex worker, a traditional
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: sex worker. It really made me think to myself, isn't
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: this even healthier and better? Because I intimately becomes easier
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: if you get to have the girlfriend experience.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is easier. And I've learned a lot. So
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: for example, I'm an author of my book Two Worlds,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: One Life. I talk about the experiences of the world
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and the faith community and the growing up in the
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: church and all of that and having the quote unquote
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: anointing and learning about God. And so I learned how
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to be intellectual. I learned about spirituality. But then as
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I got older, I realized that these most of these people,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of these people in the church are not
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: there for me. The way talk about it the so
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: called secular world is talk about it. And so when
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I get out into that secular world, I started meeting
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: them people. And no, we're not turned into John three sixteen,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: But those were people that in the strength clubs where
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: they work at at four am after work, they're calling me, Hey,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: did you have something to eat? Not in all right,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I'm coming over to cook you a meal. And I'm
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: gonna cook that meal. It's gonna last you about a
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: week or even if you need anything, call me.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: You know what, this is a testimony of the misfits
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: and people that don't fit. I really do find each
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: other and fit together. Like I don't want to condemn
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: anybody in the church or anything like that, but I'm
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: sure that there's been moments where people have made you
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: really feel like you need to turn to God because.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, as I've gotten older, God
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: has really just been my number one source, and that's
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: the place where I know I'm not judged. But I
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: also know on the other end through my spirituality that
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I can come up higher. I was stuck in the season,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: and that season. Some seasons as we winter, spring, summer, fall,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: they're about a month or two. My season was like
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: ten years, ten fifteen years of I want to be loved.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And then the other part to it is I don't
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: even want to be here because I'm not loved, I'm
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: not seen, I don't have that experience. I don't even
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: have friends that I could really really talk to or
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: having that hug like I see people in high school
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: hugging on, kissing on and all of that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I want that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Do you feel that friendship or do you have that
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: community today? I do?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I do more and now more than ever.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: And that's where because to be honest with you, as
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: if we talk about mental health, to be honest with you,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: there are times where I still feel like giving up
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: with all that's going on in my life. But what
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I do now is I'll think about those good people
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: and yes, some of them are sex workers, some of
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: them are dancers, And I think about the talks that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: we've had, the meals that you know, they've made the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: time just to you know, for me to pick up
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the phone, the hospital visits when I was in the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: hospital for about a year straight from the hospital to
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: a nursing home, them vouching for me, you know, with
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: nursing homes, when your biological family was there but not
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: really there, and they became family.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I'm curious then being thirty seven now, yeah, and looking
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: back to twenty years ago. Yeah, you were introduced to
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: sex through sex work at seventeen. Right, we just talked about,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: you know, either on the Patreon or one of the episodes, Yes,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: Hwanye and Brandy and Brandy having regret about dealing with
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: someone early in that age.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Sure do you feel like, as.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: A person with a disability, that that was the right
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: course of action for experiencing sex at that age, and
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: would you recommend it today or do you feel like
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: that was something that was inappropriate and you look back like, oh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: should have waited.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: A little longer.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like even in my trauma, it shaped my purpose, okay,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: because I'm able to sit with sex workers and they
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: we create a space where they share with me what's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: going on in their life. And on the other side,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: it's a safe place where I can go to and say, hey,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not feeling well or you know what, I feel
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: like blowing my brains out the day, I just need
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: to talk to you.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I need that ug and they were there.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So I look at all of the pain that I've
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: been through and now it's given me an opportunity to
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: teach people. Teach people about the mistakes that I've made,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Teach people that it's okay to not be okay, teach
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: people that you can come up higher, and most importantly,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: don't be your own handicapped for.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Anybody is your audience, you said, teach people. Are you
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: trying to talk to other people and reach other people
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: with disabilities?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I believe that our qualify my audience. So I'm always
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: in a space to listen. I'm always in a space
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: where if you're gonna listen, I'm gonna speak. So my
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: audience can be coming outside of this building right now
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: when somebody says, hey, I like your sneakers, and this
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: has happened so many times where they say you like
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: your sneakers to them telling me about their story about
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: you know, their trauma that they're going through, and then
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that gives me an opportunity to share a little bit
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: about what I've been through. And now I can kind
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: of change the narrative or change their way of thinking.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And when you change, he who controls the language controls
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the conversation. So now if they're on a negative I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: can switch them to a positive because of the experiences
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that I've been through.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: If someone is listening that may not only have a disability, yeah,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: it may feel like they don't have anyone that wants
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: to have intimacy with them from a genuine space. Would
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: your recommendation and advice be too hire a sex worker.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: We're advocates of sex work, but would that be were
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: you lead someone because you've.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Had a positive experience from it is that what you
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: would advise someone.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I would say, in general, you want to make sure
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: that you always remain the CEO of your life.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, you want to make.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Sure that there are four types of people in your
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: life right now, those who subtract from you, add to you,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: divide you, or multiply you. As a CEO, there are
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: many jobs with the most important job is to take inventory. Now,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: when you're in the sex working industry, most of the
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: time these people are taking away from you. You have
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: to be able to be on game and know that
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: they make you feel good, but know that this is
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: just a transactional relationship. Then there possibly can be people
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: that you meet that really are a breath of fresh air,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: that really are a fragrance, because there's a difference between
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: a fragrance and an odor. And sometimes we look at
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: a package and think that because somebody's wearing something that
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: they're just nobody or nothing. But those, what I've learned
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: is the most brilliant people.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: How do you how do you separate the two though?
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: So you're having sex with a sex worker making you
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: feel all these great emotions. They're playing with you giving
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: you this experience, what you're paying for it? How do
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: you like after they're gone, still with the fact that
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: you paid for it? That is the most hardest part. Okay, yeah,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: because you're feeling like the man in that experience, whether
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: it be physical, mental, emotional, right, and then when they're gone,
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: you're still on that high because you're like, yeah, I
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: did I did feel it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I felt great. And then maybe the next day or two.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it takes a week or two where it's like, damn,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I'm lonely again?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: What do I do?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: But is it?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: But is that necessarily bad?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Do it to do it?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Did you ever get to a point where you were
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: addicted to paying for something?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely something that I look forward to. And it
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: was because I didn't love myself.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: What did an addiction look like?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: How many times a week? How many different girls?
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: What was the most?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: It depends on the day and depending on the year.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: There were times for I had a threesome, you know.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: It to this, I need to know how you never
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: what was the three sons?
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: They was both sucking and dick. Maybe you knew what
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: stuff you came on and I know we rebraided.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: What we were doing all of that. The crazy thing
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: about it, it was this woman and her stepsister.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: If you are what is this considered incest? But if
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: it's stepsisters that inst I don't think it is.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: You know, you don't think it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I mean we had a great time.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Wait you did? Can you pay both of them? Or
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: they split the two on it?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Nah? They split it because I wasn't doing all of that.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they what's your type?
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Now? I need somebody most of all. You could.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I love how I love to celebrate a woman, so
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: you could be thin, I could celebrate your curves. You
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: could be three hundred pounds, which I've dealt with them
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: as well, And I'll celebrate all.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Of thats you had shock.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe not sat on a chair, to be clear. To
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: be clear, they never sat in a chair. But we're
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: gonna come up with some things, you know with Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's go back to the step sister porn. Yeah,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: I was gonna go okay, So did you know it
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: was gonna happen? Did you request it? Like? Walk us
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: through that experience with you know, it must be difficult
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: to have sex with one person.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I see my mind see watching all these shows. As
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: a kid, I'm like, let's create it. Let's create this.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Just what I say, porn?
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: What show was that?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: You watched the porn? It's got to be the porn.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: So set the scene. It was kiss seeing did they
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: did you?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Were you laying down?
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Remember?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: How did this work?
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: We worked out worked out the thing with this one person.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I said, listen, I want, I want you And who
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: is that?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: That's my stepsister. I'm like, yo, would you would you
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: be willing to bring her in? She's like, yeah, she's down.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: All right, Cool, we're gonna meet on this day. We're
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: gonna meet on the corner and we'll walk you back
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: to my crib.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Now you're gonna walk back.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Stop playing that what chair? What chair? So?
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Okay? So she was there.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: She was there, And at first I am a little
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: nervous because I don't know the other lady like that
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: and me, I'm a big person, and I gotta if
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: your spirit, don't you know, fit with me. And this
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: is how I've been even with you know, dealing with
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: sex workers. I didn't just choose that woman because she
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: had a big old butt. I chose whatever woman based
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: on conversation, based on how you make me feel, based
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: on how you make my spirit feel.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: And with this particular threesome, I was.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: A little kind of like, you know, a little watching
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: the little they started kissing, and I'm like, all right,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: tongue tongue.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: They was all in it. They were they was all
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: And how did they get to involve you? Because so, yeah,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: were you out of the chair?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I was on the bed. I was.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I was sitting on my bed watching. You know, they're
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: right in front of me. They didn't eat each other, guccie,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: did they I wish they did, but.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: No, I'm glad they did it. I'm glad they were boundaries.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: That's the point. That's why porn hub has to put
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: a step so it's not incests.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, And then who took
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: the lead from there?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Basically I started I pulled the work the woman that
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I know to my side, and then I started pulling
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: on her and the next thing, you know, they're all on.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Me, and so we just got it going.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Did you fuck both of them?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Now, the step sister kind of watched us at first,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: and I think she was kind of turned on that
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I could do so much in a wheelchair because we
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: had this conversation later on in life further on.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Then she got comfortable and then then boom, Now now
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: we in it pun intended.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Huh have you done anal?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know where I'm.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Going with the same more like twice? Wow, well with
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: two different women. Ain't saying that twice in the experience.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: But you know what's fucking life? There's men in this room.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know which one. Have y'all done anal? Everybody?
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: So don't want to be three zome someone that's fuck
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: the ass standing up? Three someome? Three some over there?
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: You ain't done? Angle or three Wolf? I know that
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: mic is on. You ain't done.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: So this man is more sexually experienced. See wait, do
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: you want anal? Do you want a threesome? But okay
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: you don't.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: You're good on the three, Sime? What you say? You
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: real threesome?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I can respect that.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Though we've been working together. How many years? You're good
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: on a three?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like you should have.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Pize this first day he said he did both. You okay,
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: he did both? God damn it? Wolf? What cities being
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: all right? But you eat me? Know me?
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I O the couci Yeah, I definitely oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, let's be clear on that. Let's
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: let's let's let's let's be clear on that. I love
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to eat.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That's that's my stype of
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: team man.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I gott to tell you, you know, I wasn't expecting
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: the threesome story. But genuinely it's because of my own
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: stereotype about people's sex lives.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: In a wheelchair, right, But I think we all have
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: them though, you know, I think that like when people
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: meet me, it doesn't even necessarily necessarily have to be
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: about sex. I think that they see the wheelchair. They
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: don't think that. I've been through so many things in
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: life tell me, like what I mean, even on a
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: positive note, of traveling the world, of doing public speaking engagements,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: having my own company with Chair LLC, becoming a certified
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: life coach in twenty fourteen, all these different things, you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: and most of the time.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: You don't really hear that in disabled community.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: You don't hear that with people who are not disabled,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: you know, And so now it becomes intriguing to know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: you know what, I want to know more, and because
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I want to know, I want to know more because
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: of the way you speak, the stories you're telling me,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and it's like, Wow, you're more interested than my own nigga,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: are you are.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: You missed to take your girl over away?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Do you still have desires or dreams of being married?
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Do you want kids to like? Don't you have had
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: that experience yet? I definitely can't have children. It's up
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: in the age they From what I've learned, you have
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: a four hour I have a four percent chance of
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: creating a baby with somebody, and they have that four
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: percent chance of having spindor bifited. You know, there are
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: other you know, there's always a whole bunch the so
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: called facts out there, but this is what I know
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: for myself. So to answer your question, of course, listen.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I like the idea that I could send kids home,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: you know, like you know, I'll play with your kids
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: for a little.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Bit, just like stepsisters step daddy.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: You know, boom boom, let them go and all of that.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: But before the kids, we have to talk about alignment.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: It has to be with the right person. I'm thirty seven,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: and yes, I have a full life ahead of me.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for it, but I don't want to
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: waste time. It got to be the right connection because
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: one thing I want to do is contribute to my
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: community of having a broken family and that child and
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: acts for that.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: So that's important to me.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I do have another question for you back on dating
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: disabled women.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Sure, so.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: What if there was a chance that you could find
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: the love that you wanted?
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: But she let me make that very clear to you,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: not to cut you off, but my preference is someone
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: who is not disabled. If I find somebody who I
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: am attracted to that meets, you know, my standards of
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: what I want in a woman or what I want
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: in a partner, than by all means absolutely.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: Is there a disability that you don't consider disability? Like
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: when you say disabled, is it someone just in a chair?
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Or like is it if we go deeper into it
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: and amputees someone who has mental health disorders? Like, there's
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: so many different layers to what could be considered disability.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: I can deal with some mental with a wheelchair more than.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: So.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: To be clear, when I said earlier, my core message
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: to people is don't be your own handicapped. There's another
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: reason for that. I personally do not identify as being handicapped. Okay,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I don't identify as being disabled.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Is that just a slur?
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: We didn't know because I prefer to be.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: What I'm trying to get the society to to buy
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: into is a new term called differently abled. Oh, it
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily say that I'm not in the chair, because
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: obviously I am. But two things can be true at
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: the same time. So we can talk about the chair,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: but we can also talk about the things that I
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: can do. And that's the conversation that I want to
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: have with people. And if you have questions about what
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I can do, then sure I can answer that. But
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: more importantly, it's about not just what Josh can do,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: but what we all can do and what we bring
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: to the table.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Is there any questions that a woman can ask you
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: while dating that feel a bit offensive.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: There's nothing that can offend me, honestly, or something, let's
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: even say.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: A question that it makes you feel uncomfortable on a
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: date hearing about sex.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: One of the hardest things when it comes to sex
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: specifically is that I am what's called incontinent, so I
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: wear a diaper, I cathitalize myself and when I'm intimate.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: This is why within the sex industry, I always have
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: to be very careful picking the right person because I'm
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: actually inviting them into my world, and so I know
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that I could be a sensitive person at times, so
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I had to protect my energy. So I'm doing a
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: background check within your character before i even lay the
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: money down, before I even stepped foot inside your house.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying inside the coach, I want
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: to make sure that you are able to handle what's
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: about to happen mentally and emotionally, because again, I'm protecting
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: my any when we talk.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: About the catheter, because one of the first times I've
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: ever seen it or understood was ninety day fiance. I
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: don't know if you know the guy I'm talking about,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: but there was a guy in his chair. He's like
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: super active, doing like all those like sprints and trapl
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: on shits. Yeah, and he went to Brazil like they
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: always do. Oh look with the shirt to see somebody.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: And on the first night he showed her what it
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: was like to remove it, put it in, and how
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: putting on a condom, Like, could you describe that process?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: So okay, So there are different types of catheters. I
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: use what's called a coup day catheter.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Now, the catheter. You know, some people I've learned, you know,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: because they're not familiar with it, they think it hurts.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt. It's a plastic thing.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: You put lube on it, and it searts in your
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: penis and it goes to I believe you urethra and
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: that urine just comes out and pushes out. That's really it,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: really simple for me. There are other people that have
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: different types of catheters. Some wear bags where if there's
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: a connection between the tube and it's connected to the
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: penis or the vagina, and you just let it rip.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: So when when you're about to have sex, you remove
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: the catheter.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well so no, So these catheters that I use
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: are disposable with the diaper. Let's say that you know,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I'm out all night, and the New York city that
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I live in, or that we live in, most of
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: the time things are not accessible. So sometimes there's a
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: bathroom downstairs, but there's steps. I remember one time I
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: had a chick that was so intrigued with me that
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: she wanted to come home, and I was watching her
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: vibe about the night. So I took a chance, and
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: but I was like drunk, drunk, drunk, like you know,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, cool, and then it's our
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: second time hanging out.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: You cool to come home, but I know that when
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I get home, I know you want some freaky time
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and you.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Like, I gotta get my shoes.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I gotta get I gotta get shipped together because we
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: can't be having you know, interruptions and all that. And
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I regret that night because she was so and I'm like,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: you gotta chill, and it just turned into something that
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: it shouldn't have been, all because I didn't go to
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: the bathroom.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Now we talk about like betishism. Wait, wait, have you
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: ever like she said I was gonna get it because
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: you didn't go to the bathroom.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: You're saying that there was no no so it was
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: it was urine. It was urine.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: And she wanted to She wanted to see how I
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: do things, and I'm like, y know, we ain't got
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: time for that. I'm just trying to fuck like like, no,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I want to see. I want to see, and I'm
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: like I'm drunk, so I'm like, okay, cool man, you
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: want to see, not.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: To rushing the process fuck down.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, but it's kind of weird because it's like,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: you know, like I don't go to the bathroom with you,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: what you're going to the bathroom with me for?
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: I'm curious though, like because you're in a diaper.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: We had a man on the show who was into
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: that as a kink.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: Like, there's so many people that are into that kink.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: There's field have you not considered trying dating not sex workers,
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: but people that would be into you because they had
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: certain kinks.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I think for me right now, honestly, I'm not ready
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: to date right now.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Like right right now, I'm more into my brand, and
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I think that once I continue the process of that
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: and start to build and it evolves, I'll run into
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: that person literally what cha you know, run into her,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: And that's a person that is going to help build
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: that because I'm not just looking for a good time,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: looking for a partner, I'm looking for a helpmate.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: That's that's somebody that's going to have.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: That's someone who's kinky though.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: That that helps, that helps, you know what I'm saying.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, versus the man ten years ago,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: that's all I was thinking about. Now.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: I also wanted to highlight something I saw in this
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: episode because yeah, something you said earlier. So it taught
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: me the most I'd ever seen about dating in a chair.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: And I've like gone out with people in chairs, but
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: you don't know intimate shit. I'm not about to ask
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: like you know, a homegirl like you. So Livan So
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: watching the episode on underd Fiance, this was a few
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: seasons back. Okay, she was complaining to the producers on
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: the side like he acted like he didn't need me,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: or he does all this stuff on his own, but
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: it wasn't necessarily the case. Maybe she would have to
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: help with getting into the car, little thing.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: There are obviously things that you know I need help with.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: But what I've learned also is that every relationship we
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: need help. So this is why where the alignment comes in,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: and it also on my end, my communication style comes in.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I can't feel embarrassed about certain things, and a lot
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: of times that has gotten in my way, the embarrassment
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: or hey, I need help with this, or hey I
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: know that at this age I'm supposed to do this
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: or learn this, but I can't.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Could you help me?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: And that's because even like some workers and when I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: say workers, I mean like home health aids that will
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: suck their teeth because I need help and they're just
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: so used to like sitting down on the couch and
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: just doing nothing. So imagine that in the dating world.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: And so now it try to changes your perspective. Even
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: going back as young, when I was a kid, I
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: used to feel like a burden, and that seed of
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: feeling like a burden it developed even in my adulthood, damn.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: And so now even still.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I'm still working on that because I want to be
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: so confident for my mate that I'm not a burdening.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I'm a blessing. I'm a blessing to you.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I'm a blessing to this relationship, and we could be
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: a blessing to making this money, getting this brand up
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  Speaker 2: and contributing to society.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: What are you doing to get there?
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: What am I doing?
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  Speaker 3: Are you in therapy? Is this something you just keep
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: telling yourself.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Like I've been in therapy.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like your brand and all these things, But
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: there does still seem to be a lot.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: To get over, absolutely, and I recommend therapy for everybody.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Four years ago I started my journey with therapy. I'm
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: still on it. It's good to have somebody who is
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: clinically trained to direct you, dissect you, and guide you
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: on the right path. And then I'm realizing that this
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: process for me in particular, it's not overnight, obviously, and
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: there is more room to grow. And I think that
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I would never get rid of my therapy because I'm
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: always bouncing ideas off of her.
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  Speaker 3: Is your therapist disabled?
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  Speaker 5: No, so she real genuinely feel though, that's someone who
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: has not had your experience in any capacity can help you.
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  Speaker 2: I think that it's more so not her relating to
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  Speaker 2: the chair, but more so the why why did I
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: have these thoughts? Okay, why did I have this thought
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: to be with this sex worker at that time? Why
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: wasn't I thinking about that? Well, what happened at eight
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: years old that made you feel this way? Did you
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: see a picture what that happened? Or was it the
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: fact that maybe mommy didn't give you a hug at
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: that time? And we dissect that and then oh, yeah,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: well that when I had that sex worker, that hug
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: was so genuine and great, but she wanted money after that.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: But maybe it was because that hug is something you
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: really needed that you never got as a.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Kid, there's your sex worker? Does your therapist encourage sex work?
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I think that.
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  Speaker 2: When we met, it was we met in a time
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: where it was a little I was going through difficulty.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I was living with someone who is in that industry.
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  Speaker 2: Let me make this very clear. I'm not in but
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: respect for her, but we were not aligned. And I
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: fell in love with her. And the reason for it
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: was because she gave me the physical touch that even
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: as a kid I never got. We had an arrangement
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: where she would live with me. Now when the sex.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Worker and did you take care of the house and
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: the bills?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I took care of it. I mean I took care everything.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I paid my rent and all of that.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I made sure that because I liked to serve, and
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I believe at that time because it was a fair exchange.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: You give me, I give you, and you give me
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: this money. I make sure you feel like a king.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: So why not? And at that time I didn't love
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: myself enough to say, you know, why am I doing this?
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: I was so into that feeling of the physical touch,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: the affection turning into spending holidays with each other, meeting
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: her own family, developing friendships and family unit with them
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: something that I never had as a kid. So it's
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: dressed up where I see that, but I don't see
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: the picture of are we really aligned?
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: But men work and.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: Get these companies and get promotions to literally have the
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: same thing.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Why are you looking at it so different?
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: Like there's women that don't identify as sex workers but
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: absolutely want the child life wife and want a man
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: with money to pay for everything, and they act the
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: same way.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: I think it was because of love. You have to
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: learn how to love yourself okay, and not settle, and
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: there were no boundaries in the beginning. There were times
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: where I've been put in a position where I could
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: have lost my life because a sex worker was trying
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: to get me robbed, you know, and they didn't care
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: about the chair.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: They were just ruthless people.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: But yet I put myself in those neighborhoods, in those
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: places where it just oh no, we got to.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Beat her up for you period. Sure she's still out there,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying that whole I don't give
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: a fun Listen, we're from Florida, I know you're from
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: crimin I.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Joined the Sarah shut Show as anyways, just thank you
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: so much, Thank you, we don't having this conversation again.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: We sat with what was her name, Harnchie Frenchie Frenchie Frinchie.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: For that was our last time having somebody just tell
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: us about what life is like in the chair.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And that's my big little sister we met. I would
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: say about maybe more than ten years ago. But you know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: she is not somebody who was born with what she's
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: going on. But yet she has mentored me in so
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: many ways. She is actually one of those people. When
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I feel low, I think about her. Oh okay, I
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: think about how she would really kill me, you know,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: to do or even think something like that.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: Gets you.
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  Speaker 5: I want to make sure when you guys see the
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• 54:25
  Speaker 5: that you really loved, definitely in terms of just hearing
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: what a different experience is like. Thank you again so
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  Speaker 5: much for joining me.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: And how do people support you?
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, so you can go to any plat or any
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  Speaker 4: Adams, we will make sure to cop I'm a kindlegirl,
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  Speaker 1: You got it, Thank you, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say to look out for my second
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  Speaker 2: book that's coming, and I'm actually working on my third book.
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  Speaker 4: You need to call it a book. One chair, that's
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  Speaker 3: That's what you need to call it. Anyways, guys, thank
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