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Why Is Growing Weed in a National Forest Only a Misdemeanor_ _ Joe Rogan _ Ali Siddiq _bestofjre(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: You believe in ghosts? Yes, really, have you had experience? No?
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, I I have. Let me
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  Speaker 2: go back, let me say, let me say that I
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  Speaker 2: do believe in ghost So my old house when my
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  Speaker 2: mom says that, now it's a girl that lives there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what happened in this house,
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  Speaker 2: but it's definitely a girl that lives in the house.
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  Speaker 2: But she would only come from like the hallway, bathroom
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  Speaker 2: to the kitchen. And I remember doing the pandemic. I
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  Speaker 2: mean you say a ghost, Yeah, that's that's a girl. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: She's definitely a girl. And I remember being doing the pandemic.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the den and I was working on
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  Speaker 2: I was working on something and literally I just turned
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  Speaker 2: to say, so you up, huh? And because I can
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  Speaker 2: feel her, I was like, yo, caause. But and I
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  Speaker 2: had to go back through my family. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: people in my family had experiences with past relatives that
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  Speaker 2: passed on. My uncle said he saw his dad was
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  Speaker 2: my grandfather in his shoes, and my mom said she
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  Speaker 2: saw my grandfather before and had lived ind died in
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  Speaker 2: the house that they had in Mississippi. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: believe in ghosts. I believe in unsettled spirits, but he
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  Speaker 2: definitely had a girl that lived in the house.
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  Speaker 3: My grandmother, the one I was telling you about before,
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  Speaker 3: she was very interesting and she really strongly believed in ghosts.
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  Speaker 3: And there was a guy that stayed with them for
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  Speaker 3: a while. They had like an upstairs area that they
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  Speaker 3: weren't using once the kids left, and so they rented
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  Speaker 3: out like it was like an attic space that they
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  Speaker 3: had converted or so, I forget exactly what it was. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: they rented out a room to this guy wherever, wherever
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  Speaker 3: the circumstances were, and he died, and my grandmother swore
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  Speaker 3: that that dude stayed in the house.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's possible that if something happens to you,
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  Speaker 3: that if you're dying, it's a very traumatic experience. And
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  Speaker 3: I have a feeling that we don't totally understand memory,
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  Speaker 3: and we assume that memory is something that only human
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  Speaker 3: beings have, or that only animals have, or that only
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  Speaker 3: creatures living creatures have. I don't think that's real. I
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  Speaker 3: have a feeling there may be a type of memory
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  Speaker 3: from particularly traumatic experiences that stays in a space and
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  Speaker 3: I think this is one of the reasons why they
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  Speaker 3: have to disclose within a certain amount of time. Someone's
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  Speaker 3: been murdered in the house in a lot of places
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  Speaker 3: before you buy it, because people don't want to live
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  Speaker 3: in a house that's got that energy in it. Because
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  Speaker 3: I think, I think things keep energy. I think they do.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's something more to memory than just as
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  Speaker 3: simple as oh, remember when we were five. I think
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  Speaker 3: there's something else there. I think I think that's our memory,
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  Speaker 3: but I think there's a type of memory in things.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I think.
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  Speaker 2: I believe in the one world. So I believe in gens,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I believe in angels, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So it's an unseen world that's not, you know, our thing,
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  Speaker 2: but it was things that was things here before us,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there's things here with us. Yeah, definitely
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  Speaker 1: with it. And people who don't think that haven't smoked DMT.
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  Speaker 1: But I definitely get old.
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  Speaker 3: G get old of some DMD and you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know shit. There's things around me all the time.
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  Speaker 3: There's things that are influencing you all the time. And
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  Speaker 3: this is like when we talk about like good energy
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  Speaker 3: and bad energy. One of the things you experienced in
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  Speaker 3: psychedelic states is a clear recognition of like good things
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  Speaker 3: that you've done and bad things you've done. Good, the
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  Speaker 3: good way of thinking, the good way you think about
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  Speaker 3: things a positive.
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  Speaker 1: Way, and bad like.
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  Speaker 3: I remember having negative thoughts in an experience once and
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  Speaker 3: it was all these like dark fractals, and then I
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  Speaker 3: realized it was trying to show me that these dark fractals,
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  Speaker 3: these crazy geometric it's like scary patterns that I was saying,
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  Speaker 3: was because of my own thoughts. And then I released
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  Speaker 3: them and it turned into beautiful geometric patterns over and over,
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  Speaker 3: and it kept saying like, look at this and look
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  Speaker 3: at this, and I was like, oh, it's actually the
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  Speaker 3: way you think changes the world around you. It has
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  Speaker 3: an effect. It might not have the ultimate effect. It
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  Speaker 3: might not be one hundred percent of what happens to
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  Speaker 3: you and in your life, but it has a meaningful effect.
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  Speaker 3: We just can't measure it. And there's things that are
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  Speaker 3: out there, whatever they are, they have some kind of
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  Speaker 3: consciousness that are around us all the time. We just
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  Speaker 3: don't have the senses to take them in. Just like
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  Speaker 3: when you wave your hand over an earthworm and it
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  Speaker 3: has no fucking idea you're doing that. We don't have
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  Speaker 3: the senses to understand that there's things around us, and
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  Speaker 3: people have been writing about these things for so long
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  Speaker 3: to discount them all. They're all liars, they're all delusional,
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  Speaker 3: they're all crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I think that people discount on dude to thinking that
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  Speaker 2: they were on drugs.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they probably were, but it doesn't mean they're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it doesn't mean they're wrong. You know,
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  Speaker 2: like a drunk, A drunk really don't tell a lot
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  Speaker 2: of lies. A drunk don't tell a lot of it can't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm drunk, I can't remember all that. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 2: what it is. What I'm saying. But when when people
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  Speaker 2: like LSD, you know, you loosen it, you know, or
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  Speaker 2: mushrooms or these things, people are like, well, you only
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  Speaker 2: saw that because you was on this. But maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: the portal on how you see certain things.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's certain things that we block ourselves from
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  Speaker 3: being able to see on our own protective instincts.
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  Speaker 1: We protect our thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is why people, I think get paranoid
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  Speaker 3: when they smoke weed. One of the things that weed
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  Speaker 3: does is It dissolves all these artificial barriers that you've
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  Speaker 3: put between you and and the thoughts of real danger,
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  Speaker 3: they're all there. You realize your vulnerability, you realize who
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  Speaker 3: you are.
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  Speaker 2: So just think of how years ago, how we was viewed,
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  Speaker 2: how marijuana was viewed. It was taught that marijuana is
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  Speaker 2: a gateway drug to crack, Like I didn't believe that,
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  Speaker 2: Like how does that even correlate? But it's for those
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  Speaker 2: who are trying to find an ultimate high. Maybe you
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  Speaker 2: just smoke weed and that's all you ever did you know,
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  Speaker 2: and you wasn't trying to find another high. I think
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  Speaker 2: some people try to find another high, Like now, man,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these young people are on so many
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  Speaker 2: different things at the same time, Like what are you
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  Speaker 2: searching for?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: They popping pills, doing coke, drinking lean, doing everything all
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, Like what is and drinking?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: What are you trying to escape?
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  Speaker 1: Or what are you searching for? You know? And I
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  Speaker 1: just know.
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  Speaker 2: People who just smoked weed and still smoke joints. They
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  Speaker 2: don't smoke the i't know people who grow their own,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not even trusting what's going on now Now
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  Speaker 2: they're finding fitnyl and all as marijuana, you know, and.
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  Speaker 3: The pesticides, horrible pesticides, because what people don't know is
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  Speaker 3: that a giant percentage of all the drugs or marijuana
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  Speaker 3: rather that people are buying in places where it's illegal.
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  Speaker 3: They're growing them in national forests in California, and the
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  Speaker 3: cartel's doing it, and the cartel uses a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: pesticides and herbicides that are illegal, like real toxic shit,
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  Speaker 3: and they find them doing it all the time. They
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  Speaker 3: find these grow ops in the forest all the time
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  Speaker 3: because it's a misdemeanor. So because marijuana is legal in
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  Speaker 3: the state of California, growing it is just a misdemeanor.
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  Speaker 3: So you could have a full scale grow op in
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  Speaker 3: you know, public land out in the forest, and these
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  Speaker 3: guys find them there all the time. A friend of
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  Speaker 3: mine found one in a ranch that he works at.
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  Speaker 3: He followed these PVC pipes and he realized that some
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  Speaker 3: guy was diverting water into this little area that was
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  Speaker 3: on a to Hone ranch, which is a big ranch
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  Speaker 3: outside of Bakersfield. But this dude that was on my
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  Speaker 3: podcast for his name is John Norris.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote a book about it.
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  Speaker 3: He was a game warden, and he had it turned
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  Speaker 3: into a tactical unit.
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  Speaker 1: They had to get like.
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  Speaker 3: Dogs like Belgian mountain wois and shit with bulletproof vests.
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  Speaker 3: And they're going in there having shootouts with the cartel
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  Speaker 3: because the cartel had set up these marijuana grow ops
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  Speaker 3: in the woods and it was his job to police
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  Speaker 3: that area. So like, okay, I guess that's what we're
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  Speaker 3: doing now. And then they it's a crazy story, man.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like moonshine. That's why you shine exactly,
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  Speaker 2: And this thing moonshine, moonshining developed into NASCAR exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: They had to outrun the cops. Yeah, that's what NASCAR
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  Speaker 3: came about from it's fun. It's I mean loosted. Also,
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  Speaker 3: it's al Capone, you know, it's all the mob. They
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  Speaker 3: were all running alcohol and there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: that were connected to them. You know, some people believe
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  Speaker 3: that JFK's dad was involved in alcohol, but that's disputed.
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  Speaker 3: But the point is like a lot of people were
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  Speaker 3: making money selling alcohol and they were all criminals, all
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  Speaker 3: of them. And so what are you doing. Are you
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  Speaker 3: stopping people from getting marijuana? Nope, what you're doing is
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  Speaker 3: you're empowering a criminal empire, and you're giving them an
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  Speaker 3: immense amount of money, and they're probably gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: kill a few people because people get in the way.
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  Speaker 3: They're probably gonna have to rob a few people because
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  Speaker 3: people are competition.
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  Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a problem over here. We've
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  Speaker 1: got another guard growing when.
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  Speaker 2: We live in we live in a society where the
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  Speaker 2: bad guy is definitely romanticized, right, So how do you
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  Speaker 2: stop people from wanting to be the bad guy when
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  Speaker 2: it's so romanticized and everything, you know.
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  Speaker 3: It's romanticized to the point where John Wick is a
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  Speaker 3: good guy. Yeah, John Wick is a contract killer for
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  Speaker 3: the Russian mob. He kills who knows how many people,
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  Speaker 3: and he's the good guy.
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  Speaker 2: But but you got a problem with the iceman right right,
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  Speaker 2: was a terrible person.
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  Speaker 3: You know, poison John Wick at least with sexy in
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  Speaker 3: that suit.
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  Speaker 2: But you cannot wait John Wicked six to come out
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  Speaker 2: and wait, I love.
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  Speaker 3: Those well John Wick movie though, You're like, he had
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  Speaker 3: a reason. They killed his dog and they stole his car.
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  Speaker 3: They fucked up, they fucked up. They stole the wrong
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  Speaker 3: guy's car, and they killed the wrong guy's puppy, and
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  Speaker 3: so you're rooting for him.
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  Speaker 1: You're rooting for him to kill all
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  Speaker 3: These bad Russian guys, but you don't realize that there
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  Speaker 3: guy's been a contract killer for the Russian mob for
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  Speaker 3: who knows how