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Vivian Wilson Talks KATSEYE 'Pinky Up,' Troye Sivan, & Dollseye #406 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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Are you into manifestation? Am I into manifestation?
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I'm too much of A cynic to be into manifestation.
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I feel like you live a manifestated life.
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I guess that is true it. Used to be a huge huge huge
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cynic in astrology and manifestation in terror and
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everything. Which is like funny because it's
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like my entire thing now, but. I ratioed Mark Zuckerberg one
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time, that was. You did not.
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What did you say? What did he say?
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I don't really remember what the IT was about, but it was about
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some new policy. Yeah, that's fair.
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And I ratioed him to bits. Period.
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As you should, honestly. That's iconic.
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Hello, besties. We're welcoming a very special
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Wilson, Miss Vivian Jenna Wilson to the podcast.
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She's a self-proclaimed queen of threads.
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She's chronically online. You're hilarious.
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I have not been a frequent user of Threads, but when I was doing
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my research at one of your threads and I was reading
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through and I was like, how do you think of this?
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Like you're. Just I think of this.
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It's just like self aware, it's conscious, it's smart and it's
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funny and it really like hits like it's good.
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How do I think? Well, I feel like most of the
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things that go viral is I do. Yeah.
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I do have a thing for ratio in people on that app like that was
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one of. Your tweets too.
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I mean your threads. One of your threads.
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Sorry on. Twitter, yeah, I don't know.
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I have this special talent where I can kind of just.
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You could just do it. Be a bitch.
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I love that. I think being a bitch, it's very
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free and on occasion. It is not even on occasion just
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be a bitch. Just be a bitch, be a diva.
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I was literally just telling my team right before this, this is
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so funny. Charlie called me this morning,
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my publicist, and he was like, don't do that thing where you
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say out loud what you tell us. I don't think when have I ever
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done that. I guess I really do do it.
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But I was telling Charlie this morning, I feel like I could
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just say whatever I want. Like, is that fine?
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And he was like, absolutely fucking not.
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And I was like, and he was like, and don't say that on the show.
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Say what you want. What are you thinking?
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That's what are you thinking right now.
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I'm. Thinking Charlie, I want to say
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whatever I want. What are you thinking?
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Spill it. You can't say this and then
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don't say what you're thinking. Can I say it?
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Shall I say it? OK, I really want to say it.
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I'm just going to say it. Say it.
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Delulu, Delu. Thank you.
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He was like, do not say it. And I was like, she'll say it
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too. I say.
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Delulu. Danny quite often.
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OK, yes, I'm just on the fat boat.
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They're very fun, those OK. Just say it right?
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You should slurs are bad but I don't know, I find the word
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tranny so funny. I mean, that's fair, yeah.
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I mean, you're well, well within your, right?
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Well, yeah, yes. I mean, you're within.
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Your right, I'll just stay with my my my my slur card.
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Tululu. I think should do it together.
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Tulu Tulu 21. 321. Tulu.
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Why did that eat? We kind of harmonized a little
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bit, right? We should start a girl group.
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We're connecting. I know 100%.
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I love your natural egg yo, it's so refreshing.
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Guys saying also I like the icebreaker that we just had.
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That was good. I'm disarmed.
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We also took I took a shot prior to this.
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I took half a shot. She took half a shot prior to
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this so. Don't drink underage.
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Don't drink and don't indulge in substances.
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That's actually something she told me right for we've started
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shooting, so not not substance. Using, Be responsible with your
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choices. Make correct choices.
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Terrible role models. But anyways, your threads is so
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fucking hilarious. Like literally I'm going to be
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active on threads just so I see your threads.
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I'll keep you to that. I'm going to do it, Yeah.
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I mean, it's not like you don't thread that often, though.
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I feel like it's like once a month.
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But they're always bangers. Yeah, I haven't.
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I've become more of a reply demon.
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Wait, I don't think I swiped to the reply section.
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Oh gosh, you're on their asses. I I fear yes, that's fair.
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I ratioed Mark Zuckerberg one time, that was.
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Good. You did not.
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What did you say? What did he say?
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I don't really remember what the IT was about, but it was about
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some new policy. Yeah, that's fair.
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And I ratioed him to bits. Period.
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As you should. Honestly, that's iconic.
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I'm going to find it. I'm going to support that out to
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the ratio. Thank you.
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OK, everything counts. Everything counts.
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By the way guys, Fun fact, this is not Vivian's first time in
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the shipping container. So no, it's not.
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Oh my God. OK, so a year ago I was on this
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podcast with Elijah and we filmed in this exact same
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shipping container. The shipping container and this
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is the first time I'm saying on my show we film in a shipping
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container y'all? I am obsessed with the shipping
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container. I'm really happy to be back
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home. I think Destiny has drawn me to
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the shipping container. Did you ever expect?
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To come back. To the shipping container.
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The shipping container no. Right, it looks different
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though, we have a different set. Yes.
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We don't have a big budget, so it's just different couches.
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But you were on Elijah's debriefing podcast and it was
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this exact room. Yeah.
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Or shipping container. Welcome to Los Angeles.
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Welcome to Los Angeles. Isn't that crazy?
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We were talking about that right before this.
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Like I needed to get a tarot deck.
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You said you had your own. Well, yeah, what do you mean?
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I was like, wait, what's the nuance there?
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I have so many tarot decks and I fucking forgot mine for today,
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and I wanted to give you a reading.
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So I had Jackie run out and grab one.
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And we were like, fuck, what do we do?
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Because you were about to get here.
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You're like, fuck, what do we do?
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And then we were like, it's LA, there's going to be a tarot
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deck. It is Los Angeles.
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And then we got a tarot deck and it was fucking $40 and I'm
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pissed. Damn.
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Literally because this is not. This is not standard or right.
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Queer Angelinos love tarot. Who?
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Queer Angelino's We Love Tarot. We do.
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We do, absolutely. I need to get a tarot reader.
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I literally was driving the other day and there was this
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advertisement on the road. It was like one of those
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billboard thing, not billboard things.
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It was like sign on the road. And it was like free psychic
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reading. Come on in.
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I was like. Oh, there's a lot of those.
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Yeah, I was like, wait, am I going to get kidnapped?
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Because I'm kind of down. I I kind of need one.
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Here's the thing, there's there's a few nearby and it's
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always in like residential areas where they'll just have the sign
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outside. It's like they're.
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Inside psychic reading. And I'm like, is this how people
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get kidnapped? And why am I kind of down?
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Like, I kind of want to go in. Yeah.
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What do they know that I don't? Right.
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That would be fun. We should go.
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Yeah. Wait, can you retail?
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No. I'll teach you you OK?
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Try to read me when we do the tarot, OK?
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Or I can tell you what you what you pull for me.
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I'm scared though. I'm in like a really weird phase
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in my life right now. I Yeah, you're in a really weird
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phase of your life right now. I.
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Think so. I feel like I'm coming into
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peace because I had a really chaotic beginning of the year
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and I feel like right now I was like literally just like writing
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my journal. I was like, hey, everything's
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nice and peaceful, what's up with this?
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And Oh my God, Mercury retrograde just started.
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So I'm kind of like but I try not to subscribe too hard to
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like Mercury retrograde ruining my life or whatever but.
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That's Mercury. Retrograde.
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How's your retrograde been? It started last week.
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Angelino bitches love tarot. I don't know anything about it.
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I guess I'm the exception. Really.
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You like getting? You like getting red though?
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Yeah. Does your roommate read you a
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lot? Is your really good?
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Should. I.
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Get a reading from your roommate.
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Yeah, honestly. OK.
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I'm down. I I low key really need a
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reading. I'm excited to read you guys.
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We're going to do it at the end of the show.
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So everyone please watch E watch ease.
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But we do open every show by doing some affirmations.
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We're going to speak some good things into existence for the
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besties and we're just going to ping pong off of it.
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Cute shit. OK, here we go, I can start us
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and then we'll just go back and forth.
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Besties, if you're listening at home, all you need to do is sit
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back, relax, breathe and claim whatever resonates with you.
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You are a magnet for money, abundance and opportunities.
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You are allowed to want more without feeling guilty about it.
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You were safe receiving more abundance than you've ever
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before. I fucked that one up.
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You're ready to receive more abundance than you ever before.
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You are capable of turning your taste, humor, and talent into
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real wealth. I love that one.
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I'm claiming that one actually. Yes, you are allowed to be
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successful. You are attracting brands, room
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and people. I'm sorry you are attracting
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brands, rooms and people that match your value.
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I'm really claiming that one. I've been praying for that one.
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You are worthy of a life that feels free and expansive.
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You are building a life that pays you back.
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You are becoming someone who knows how to grow in their
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miracles. Oh, that's beautiful.
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That's about that one. These are poetic.
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Yeah. I'm claiming all of that.
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That was good. How did you feel?
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I feel good. I feel good hearing you say it.
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Well, yeah. And I feel like yours resonated
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me because I'm like, those are kind of things I need right now.
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So I'm claiming all of that. I thought you wrote them.
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I'm not going to lie. I did write them.
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Honestly, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did.
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That's why they that's why they referred me.
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Sorry. So guys, that's the secret.
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People ask me about my videos all the time.
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They're like, how do you like make the videos or whatever?
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And I'm like, I quite literally just say what I need to hear.
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So in my own content, it's like whatever I'm saying to the
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camera, it's literally what I need to hear because like.
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Girl, no, I get that. You know, yeah, the affirmations
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are real. Like, they really, really,
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really help, you know? Oh, my God.
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Like your bio is an affirmation. It is.
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It's literally an it's very real.
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Yeah, you manifested that. Are you into manifestation?
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Am I into manifestation? I'm too much of A cynic to be
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into manifestation, I feel. Like you live a manifestated
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life. I guess that is true, yeah.
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I feel like if I say I'm too much of A setting to manifest,
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that's so edgy that's how. You feel that's how you feel.
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I used to be a huge, huge, huge cynic in astrology and
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manifestation in tarot and everything, which is like funny
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because it's like my entire thing now.
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But when I first was getting into it, I needed to, I'm the
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type of person that's like, I'll see it, I'll believe it when I
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see it. So until I started seeing like
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proof of things happening, that's when I started leaning
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into like the delulu, the illusions of all of it.
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Otherwise I'd be like, well, what, what is it?
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What's up? You know what I mean?
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So like, honestly, I used to be there too, but I actually find
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that being delusional just makes life so much easier 'cause then
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it's just like, I don't have to sit with the reality of
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situations. I can just be like, OK,
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everything's fine, you know what I mean?
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I think it's important to find the balance between reality and
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delusion, but definitely leaning more a little bit more into the
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delusional. Side, I'm completely with you.
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I honestly feel like I'm more rational and self aware than my
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brand gives off with the delulu thing.
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I'm very delulu, but I'm also so realistic because I also feel
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like you kind of have to be otherwise, like the expectations
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could crush you. It could be disappointing.
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And if it is, then it's like, now what everyone?
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What are we doing here? Very much so.
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OK, so Vivian, for anyone who doesn't know you, how would you
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introduce yourself? Like how would you want someone
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to? What's your elevator pitch?
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My name is Vivian Jenna Wilson, and I'm a woman trying her best.
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Period. And God forbid a woman try her
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best, you would be crucified for it.
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You got it. Honestly, I'm also a woman
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trying my best. Guys like we are really out
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here. Los Angeles, I want to, I was
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going to say it's an evil city. I don't.
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I do believe that, but I don't want to claim that.
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I don't think it's an evil city. I think there are evil parts of
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it. I think LA is what you make of
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it. That's true.
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Which is why I think a lot of people, especially who move
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here, can struggle so much with parts of it because there's a
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lot of smoke and mirrors. But you have to learn to
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appreciate the illusion behind the smoke and mirrors.
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That's so. That's so deep and meaningful
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and true. Yeah.
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Like, very, very introspective. That's good.
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I find LA to be like, it's a city of my dreams.
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So I'm not native to LA. You were born and raised in LA.
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I'm not native to LA. So I came here to pursue my
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dreams. But the more I'm here, I'm like,
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the city is built on the foundation of broken dreams,
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people who gave up on their dreams and their hopes and what
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they wanted for themselves. And I feel like that idea could
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be crushing because it's like, it's Hard Out Here.
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Hard Out Here. It is true, but I think there is
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more to LA than just like the entertainment industry.
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I think the entertainment industry in LA is it's crushing,
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it's demotivating. It's all the things that people
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describe to it. But I think there is so much
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more to the city as well. The people, the culture, the
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amount of diversity that we have, it's really, I think it's
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really something quite special, yeah.
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It's beautiful. It's nice too, because it's
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just. Like the weather?
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Oh my God. I know.
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I can't go anywhere else. I completely agree.
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That's the my my favorite part about living in Los Angeles and
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California in general, because when I lived in New York, it was
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so gloomy and sad and cold and like I got seasonal, seasonal
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depression, like genuinely like, and I've never felt that way
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before. But coming to LA, I'm just like,
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Oh my gosh. And like my, my apartment has
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these big ass windows so it's always drenched in sunlight.
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I'm always like, Oh my God, this fucking physically just feels
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good, you know what I mean? But then the traffic is like
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something I really hate. Other than that, you know me,
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love me, love LA. You don't drive though, right?
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You just Ubers. Well, yes.
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He's not. Me research boots.
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Yeah, research boots. I do not have a driver's
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license, and I keep saying I'm going to get one and then I
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don't get one. See, I agree with you.
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So I'm going to say I get one, I should get one, and then I'm
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going to say I'm going to get one.
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T honestly the DMV is a nightmare so I don't even blame
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you for not getting one. Honestly I hate driving.
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I wish I could just fucking Uber everywhere anyways.
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Or Waymo, me love Waymo, but other than that, it's like it's
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LA. Like what else can you do?
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When I lived in New York, I didn't have a car.
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I took the subway everywhere. I was talking about it with your
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manager and like, you know, I feel like that was what I really
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lived about New York. Wait, have you have you lived in
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New York everywhere? You just.
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Always. No, But I'm there a lot for
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work. The subway I appreciate.
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I feel like a lot of people are very quick to make fun of the
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New York subway for being dirty or filthy or whatever.
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They have one. Most of the people make fun of
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them. That's T It's just cars.
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That's T That's T What do we have here?
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Wait, we have a subway here? Right now we do.
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We just got the ride, the D extension.
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Oh, I love marketing for that. Should we go?
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We need to. Go.
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We'll go on it to a tarot reading or psychic reading.
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That's what we'll do, OK. I see the vision.
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I love that we have a plan. We have a plan.
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We have a plan. OK, we we were talking about
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this before we started like formally getting into the show,
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but we're talking about like, you know, going out of we ho use
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the recognition thing. I was just saying like, I really
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do love when people come up to me and you talk to me, but
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sometimes I'm like really drained.
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It's hard though, because it's it's I understand my position on
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the Internet while where it's like I know people like look to
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me for comfort and etcetera, which I completely understand
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because that's what I'm trying to do.
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But sometimes just like trying to exist or whatever.
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And you were mentioning that like when you're going to we ho,
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you know, if you do it up, you're going to get recognized.
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How do you feel like the dichotomy in between that 'cause
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I feel like in the recent years you really blew up, became a
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well known figure, right? You know, and it was kind of
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quick, honestly. Yeah, in the recent years it was
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really quick, Yeah. The way I handle it is, I mean,
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being I'm kind of a homebody, which, yeah, but also introvert
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too. Surprisingly, yeah.
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I don't really come off as it, but I really.
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Am a lot of people in this industry are, yeah, right.
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Because I think also being in front of the camera so often, it
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does make you appreciate the times in which you have to turn
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it off and make you like recognize your own limits in
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that regard. I know it's something I
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appreciate. You're so emotionally mature, by
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the way, like everything you're saying, like, wait, why are you
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dropping all these, like, Nuggets of wisdom?
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What's going on? I'm so much sure there's that
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one song. I don't remember how it goes.
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I'm so much sure got me a therapist I don't think.
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I know it is it by cat's eye. Sizza, I'm thinking of a scissor
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song. Is it?
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Supermodel. I don't know the names, I'm
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sorry the. One that's like, I'm so mature.
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She was great in that movie. I would.
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Yeah. I've seen it.
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Oh my gosh. Hustlers.
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No. One of the days, yes, that was
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really good. Yes, that was super good.
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I saw it on an airplane. Wait, how often do you watch
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movies? You watch movies a lot.
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Kind of, yeah. Because I I travel some for work
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so I watch a lot of movies there, but also I like watching
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movies on my first. Very often you travel.
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For work, you know how unpredictable it is.
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So I never travel. I.
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Literally tell my entire team, like don't send me anywhere
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unless it's New York because I love New York.
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But otherwise, like I'm good. I really love Lai, love staying
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home. I also love knowing where
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everything is and like being with fine things because like,
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or this is like this is super diva of me.
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But if I do get sent somewhere, I literally tell them like, you
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have to staff me and you have to take me places or show me or
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someone has to escort me because I will get lost.
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Like I genuinely will get lost. It's just I don't like
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travelling. That's fair.
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Yeah, I think too much for me. Travelling can be a lot
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sometimes. I don't mind travelling.
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I mean, I get really homesick, but I well, I was going.
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To say one of your threads is like every time I leave, Lai
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immediately get. I get really, really homesick.
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It's like bad, yeah, but I don't like planes either.
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I hate. Like I have major ADHD, which I
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think is probably fine to it. I don't think anyone's
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surprised. It's probably fine to admit.
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Define that for me ADHD well like yeah say ADHD, but what do
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you mean by like major like how how big is it for you I.
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Don't know, just a DHDI have ADHD.
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Just like that's you, yeah. So I am a bit hyperactive, so
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sitting in one place for that amount of time can be as.
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Oh yes, I don't like feeling restrained.
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Yeah, but travel, I'm very like obviously travelling for work or
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something. Yeah.
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Do you travel alone when you're travelling for work?
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Usually, no. That's nice.
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Yeah. That's nice.
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Yeah, yeah. Or nowadays it's no.
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It used to be, yes. Oh, and then what?
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You would just like, go about and do it like you would know
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where everything is? I don't know.
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I'm not a traveller. I did get extremely lost in New
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York one time, but. Really.
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That's so fun though. What part of Manhattan, though?
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Right, it's not fun in my experience.
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It could be scary. Actually, that could be very
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overwhelming. It was.
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Yeah, Also, it was the first time I was like, I'm in New
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York. Yeah, I need to ride the subway.
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Oh, you're doing? It I did not realize that the
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way the New York subway stations work is really strange because
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the trains, like when you're on the platform, at least in my
18:57
experience, it didn't go all the way up.
19:00
So I missed the train. No.
19:02
Yeah, You have to adjust. To it and then I.
19:03
Went to the wrong place. No, I my my first time's in New
19:06
York, literally I would get on the wrong train that's going
19:08
like Uptown when I need to go downtown because I didn't know
19:10
there was a difference. I didn't realize that the
19:12
trains, like I didn't, I didn't realize how everywhere.
19:16
I don't know. I just kind of assumed
19:18
everywhere would be the same and it's not.
19:19
That's completely fair. Honestly.
19:21
I've lived there for a couple of years and I think if I were to
19:22
go back now, I'd still have the same kind of issues because like
19:25
I'm very much of my patterns. So if I were to go somewhere, I
19:28
knew I could do that anywhere else.
19:30
I'd be like. Hey, yeah.
19:32
So where? We going guys, but you know,
19:35
love New York, God bless New York and I I wanna go back to
19:38
New York so bad. Hopefully I can do this fall.
19:43
When was I you just you did New York Fashion Week, right?
19:45
Yeah. How was that?
19:47
It was. What did you walk for?
19:50
When was the last time I did OK? I didn't do the most recent one
19:53
because I was sick, but I did. February.
19:58
No, I was. March, I don't even.
20:01
Know where it was the last people I walked for a new I
20:04
yeah, no, it was September. I was there for September,
20:06
right. I My sense of time is so bad
20:09
girl, it's scary. Right now, Can you believe it's
20:11
July? No.
20:13
I'm literally like. Pride is over everything.
20:15
'S going so quick, pride is over.
20:17
Yeah, not for me. Though, Baron, should we give a
20:21
pride? Delulu. 123.
20:26
Delulu. That was delulu splash POS slash
20:31
positive. That's what that means.
20:33
POS, not the other complimentary.
20:35
Yeah, not the other abbreviation.
20:37
Not derogatory, never that obviously never that for me,
20:40
ever that. Can I give some back story lore
20:43
to the Celsii? So Celsii is a is a plural for
20:47
Celsius. It is absolutely no.
20:48
I agree with you on this, and I said I agree with you on this
20:50
because in English it has the US ending and everything else with
20:54
the US ending like cactus, cacti, octopus, octopi has the I
20:59
ending. Oh my God, the plural brain.
21:02
I didn't know. I didn't know that, but I just
21:04
knew. It is Celsii.
21:05
Yeah, I don't know the etymology of Celsius or or if it's like.
21:10
These are such big words for Elmo.
21:12
I'm like. I don't remember if the I like
21:18
plural is only for English words that come from Greek.
21:21
I don't remember. It rolls off the tongue.
21:23
It does. I like it.
21:24
It feels. Right.
21:25
It's natural. Yeah, you know what I mean?
21:26
Because everything else is us. I feel like it should just be
21:28
consistent because. OK, what if those Celsius is?
21:31
No. Celsii, that's so awkward.
21:34
Celsius Celsius. Celsius is Celsius is That
21:38
sounds like a slur Yeah, that sounds like the slur.
21:40
I see it. Let's beep that one and also.
21:42
Keep Tululu. It sounds like a medication for
21:44
something vile. Right.
21:45
Celsius, Celsius What? That's terrible.
21:48
So the Celsii, but that's where the Celsii.
21:50
So I was watching, I think it was keeping it straight.
21:54
You did a podcast keeping it. Straight give it to me.
21:56
Straight give it to me straight with Maddie morphs.
21:58
That's right. And you were requesting a lot of
22:00
Red Bull during it and I was like and you said you you need
22:03
caffeine. So I was like I told Mina our PA
22:05
here. I was like we just talk up.
22:07
I don't know if you guys could see there are should we count
22:09
123456? There's seven.
22:13
I've made it a thing where I'm like, I should probably stop
22:16
vibrating on podcasts. No, that's a time to vibrate,
22:21
really. I guess it's true.
22:22
Absolutely, yes. So we stocked with a Celsii for
22:25
her. Thank you.
22:26
Of course. So you will you.
22:29
Drink you I. Prefer Red Bull to be honest.
22:31
Me too, they were actually a friend of the show for a.
22:33
Long time. I love that, but no, I'm a sugar
22:36
free Red Bull girly. Yeah, my Gogo.
22:38
Cheese love Red Bull. Same.
22:41
Anyways, never mind about the Celsii.
22:43
Then we also have Rebel on deck. Do we have Rebel back there?
22:46
I'm good. I think I've had enough energy
22:47
drinks. Really.
22:48
Yeah. OK, fair for the moment.
22:50
And you're half shot and you're half shot, right, OK, that's
22:53
completely fair. OK.
22:54
So you don't frequent Weho a lot you said if you.
22:57
Do I don't frequent it occasionally really, But I like,
23:01
first of all, I mean, I think this is a general thing, but I
23:04
only go with friends. Yeah, same.
23:06
Yeah, I don't know. It's scary to feel predatory.
23:08
Yeah, if you're going alone, it's well, I haven't, so I
23:11
actually I wouldn't. Keep now brave when they go
23:13
alone. Yeah, You know what I mean?
23:15
Like, I don't, I wouldn't be able to do that.
23:16
I feel like, you know what's interesting?
23:18
I feel like I don't have a lot of social anxiety, but then I
23:20
do. I don't get things alone.
23:22
Worry about my personal safety. Fair.
23:24
Yeah, That's completely fair. Yeah. 100%, yeah.
23:27
Do you have like a bunch of people that you go with or is it
23:30
are you cool to go with just like one person?
23:32
I usually go with some people, but I'm cool with going with
23:34
whatever. Just someone like, you know, I
23:35
think it's very important that if you are going to a bar we
23:39
have or someplace like that 100%.
23:40
I think it's generally more. Is it generally better to go
23:44
with people that you know just to keep safe?
23:47
Is it a personal safety thing like you don't want to get
23:49
roofied, or is it a personal safety thing where it's just
23:51
like people recognize you? I don't want to get roofied.
23:53
Fair. That's so fair.
23:56
Yeah, I completely agree with that.
23:57
Or assaulted 100%. I was going to say something,
24:01
but I was. Like, I don't think many people
24:02
want that to be. Honest, genuinely, no, I was.
24:06
We can cut this because I'm going to say it because I think
24:08
it's silly, but I was going to be, I was going to say shout out
24:11
the Abbey, but. No, no, no.
24:13
Keep it in, Keep it in, keep it in.
24:15
Let's wake it up. Let's wake it up.
24:17
They sent me flowers. Can I tell?
24:19
You and I felt bad about it. Wait, why?
24:21
What happened? I went to an event at the Abbey
24:24
and I will me too. I will go there for like events
24:26
and stuff. But yeah, so many of my friends
24:30
have been drugged or robbed or both at the Abbey where if the
24:35
it's not for like a very. Specific reason tend to avoid it
24:39
100%. I'm actually right there with
24:42
you. We were just at the Abbey 35th
24:45
anniversary, some sort of anniversary event that they had
24:48
and we were on the carpet and they were interviewing me and
24:51
Charlie was so upset about this. They were like, what makes the
24:54
Abbey so special? And I was like, I've almost died
24:57
here a few times and I still come.
24:59
And he was like, why would you tell them that?
25:02
Well, that's true. Yeah.
25:04
I was like, I'm still here. I didn't mind.
25:06
Like what do? You mean you didn't mind?
25:08
How did you almost die of the Abbey?
25:09
I have a crazy story one time. This is OK.
25:11
So this is how this is real guys.
25:14
This is literally so real. So I was at the Abbey and it was
25:17
like pre pandemic 20/20/2019 or something and I saw this guy
25:21
across the bar. I thought he was so hot.
25:23
So I do what I always do when I want a guy to talk to me.
25:26
I don't look at them. I look away and I think talk to
25:27
me, talk to me. Talk to me, Talk to me.
25:29
Exactly and it works. You do.
25:30
And it works. And it works because then why
25:32
did he come up to me? I like your hair.
25:34
I was like, oh, cute. Wait, Hi.
25:36
I just. I didn't see you before.
25:37
How are you? Anyways, Long story short, he
25:40
convinced me to go back to his apartment.
25:41
He was like insane. He had like punch holes in the
25:45
wall. He had a restraining order on
25:47
his desk from his axe. He kept telling me how much I
25:49
look like his axe and it was like so weird.
25:52
We almost fucked. He was on top of.
25:54
Me after that, yeah. Still, I know I'm such a people
25:58
pleaser. I noticed all of these red
26:00
flags. Red flags literally being like
26:02
abuse. Yeah, so he's but after.
26:04
They get on the training order. Restraining order for abuse from
26:08
his ex. He kept telling me all night how
26:10
he looked like his ex. We're about to fuck.
26:12
He gets he's like butt ass naked on top of me, Dick out,
26:16
collapses on me and cries because I remind him so much of
26:18
his ex and he's like crying because he's like, you remind me
26:20
so much of my ex. And I was like, oh, I'm going to
26:22
die. I'm going to fucking die.
26:23
I know I'm going to die. And my phone wasn't near me.
26:25
I was like, I need to leave right now because like the
26:27
restraining order from the ex, the punch holes in the wall.
26:30
Also he had letters on his wall from his family that were like
26:34
we're so proud of you for going to anger management.
26:36
And I was like and then like he had like a switch and was
26:39
broken. Say his name.
26:40
You should probably cut out the name.
26:43
Oh my God, what? Cut that out, probably.
26:51
I mean, I don't want to. Maybe you don't need to, I don't
26:54
know, but you know he. Probably should.
26:55
He was insane. So, yeah, well, you know what?
26:58
It's your show. You can do whatever you want.
26:59
Oh my God, he was so crazy. He told me he was an artist.
27:01
He had a song on the radio. Right.
27:03
OK, I don't listen to the radio, Right.
27:04
So I was like, OK, slay. The song comes on and it was on
27:07
the radio and I was like, I was like, that's your song.
27:09
Is it? Is it fucking moon being ice
27:11
cream or something? What is it?
27:12
Oh my God, I wish it was Benny Boone.
27:14
Wish it was Benny. It was.
27:16
I fucking don't remember what song it was, but I eventually I
27:19
hear it again a couple days later and I told my friends,
27:21
like, that's the guy I went out with, that's the song on the
27:22
radio and they're like, Ryan, this is Ed Sheeran.
27:25
It was fucking Ed Sheeran. I didn't fucking know it was Ed
27:28
Sheeran. He fucking told me.
27:30
What song by Ed Sheeran? I don't know it was.
27:32
Like when is it the shape of your body here?
27:34
Not shape of your body. It was the one that had like two
27:36
other people on it. It was like a very kumbaya type
27:38
song, right? I was like, and I thought that
27:40
was fucking him. I thought that it was him.
27:43
He really got my ass good. And that happened at the Abbey.
27:46
So shout out to Abbey. I still can't.
27:48
I still come. Well, for events, yeah, like you
27:50
said. I feel bad because I don't feel
27:53
like the problematic, like, yeah, here's the thing with the
27:56
Abbey. I it can get better.
27:58
Yeah. So yeah, like I feel like it
28:00
needs to. I think it's to do better.
28:02
It needs to be better. It has such a history.
28:04
It has such a reputation. 100%. Like when I say that the Abbey
28:08
is, well, it is what it is, I mean, that doesn't mean that I
28:12
don't think it can be better, which I think it needs to be.
28:15
I think everything can be better, you know, like that for
28:18
sure. I don't go naturally unless they
28:21
invite me, right? Which now I'm like oh fuck,
28:23
they're not going to invite me anymore.
28:24
Yeah, probably not. I'm kidding.
28:27
I love the Abbey. Everyone buy a drink there.
28:31
Actually, I don't care. I mean.
28:34
Be careful, be careful wherever you buy a drink with like OK
28:38
ready PR training kick in everyone.
28:41
Please be safe and practice safe measures when you're going out.
28:44
Bring a friend. Be mindful of the drinks you
28:46
purchase and consume. Yes, of course.
28:49
Yay. Yay.
28:50
Good PR answer, Charlie. Oh, he's so stressed.
28:54
But yeah, that's the Abby. Otherwise, I really wouldn't go
28:59
there. Well, yeah, we should go.
29:02
We'll go together. We'll protect each other.
29:04
Beaches. Oh, do you like beaches?
29:06
I do like beaches. I like beaches.
29:07
Beaches is fun. I like beaches.
29:09
Yes. I love beaches.
29:10
What other? What other One time I was with
29:14
my friends and I think I was outside of beaches.
29:16
They were, they have my two favorite.
29:18
They had two of my favorite things in the world.
29:19
They were like blasting a cat's life song.
29:22
And they had like a Smash Brothers set up.
29:26
And I was like, how random I need to go in there now.
29:29
And the rest of my group was like, no, we'll go to this
29:32
different club. And I still think about that
29:34
sometimes. You didn't go.
29:35
That's the biggest FOMO I've had.
29:37
Oh no, they should have just. Entertained you for like 5
29:39
minutes right? I mean, I'm sure another
29:41
opportunity will present itself to play Smash Brothers with gay
29:45
people. Lots of opportunities present
29:48
them. We'll make.
29:49
We'll request it at the DJ. Yeah, we'll go.
29:51
Or I could just do that at my house 100.
29:53
Percent. That's true.
29:54
That's true. Yeah.
29:55
Game music video night. I love game, music, video and I.
29:58
Wait, who are you playing for game music?
30:00
Video now I'm playing X love first thing one and only live
30:04
performance. Oh my.
30:05
God, yeah, that's the playlist, that's the queue.
30:07
That's what that's where we start.
30:09
Where else are we going? Where else?
30:12
Why don't you go for? Why don't you go next?
30:13
Recently I think of an answer. Recently it's been.
30:15
Slater OK yes. What's your favorite one?
30:18
Dance gas station. Gas station is so good.
30:22
Dance is really good too. Dance is so good.
30:25
I love dance. Gas station is really good.
30:27
Does someone have a music video? I think I haven't seen gas
30:30
station. Her entire era for Worst girl in
30:32
America is so stunning. Yeah, I know.
30:34
The aesthetic is really, really on .0.
30:36
It is. Yeah, it's like glamping, you
30:38
know what I mean? It's really good.
30:40
I love her. Oh, you know who's also really
30:41
good at glamping? You need to get get into
30:43
Magdalene. DJ Jesus, Have you heard that
30:45
song? It's like Slater esque.
30:47
It's very glampy. It's very like desert.
30:50
It's like, it's just, it's so good, we're gonna add it to the
30:53
queue. OK, we'll add it to the.
30:54
Queue for game music video and the video is so kind.
30:57
So fucking kind. OK, so who else is on the game
31:00
music video queue? Well, Azella of course.
31:03
Slay Yeah, depending on the vibe cuz I feel like the vibe for
31:05
game music video night. My favorite thing about it is
31:08
that the vibe starts to shift a little bit.
31:10
We get the fun pop stuff, it's a pregame.
31:13
Then everyone starts to get suddenly emotionally vulnerable
31:16
and starts to share the songs actually make them like feel
31:20
emotions when I actually touch. Why?
31:22
Is this a universal experience? Absolutely.
31:24
Yeah, does. Why not having?
31:26
I tend to put on Chichi Perez. I love Gigi Peret.
31:29
She's so good, Yes. It's honestly such a like
31:32
spiritual experience, like having a music video night.
31:35
And it's exactly that. Like I'll start with like, OK,
31:37
let's get get the energy going. And then I'll be like, by the
31:40
way, there's a song I think we should listen.
31:42
To Yeah, let's play it. I have like, we have this
31:45
routine, so I pregame my friend Sky all the time, so she'll play
31:49
a lot of Halsey girl as a gun. Halsey, Halsey.
31:53
And then I think I'll show her like Saffic videos because she's
31:58
Saffic. So then I'll be like, let's do
32:00
Elise's her. Do you know Elise?
32:02
You need to get into Elise too, OK?
32:04
She's so kind. She's so.
32:05
Good. So we need to write these down.
32:07
We're going to give you a list and we'll provide it for you.
32:10
Before we go, we'll have our own cue, the mix and the mix and
32:13
match of it. Yeah, I think it's exactly that.
32:15
We start with Slater, get the vibes going really, really good.
32:18
Then we'll be like, OK, what's kind of devastating me right
32:21
now, You know what I mean? And then we'll get into that and
32:24
then we're good to go. Yeah.
32:25
And then, then we're in the Oobs.
32:28
We're on the way. You know what I mean?
32:29
I don't frequent. We hoe enough.
32:31
Actually, I haven't been able to go in a really long time.
32:33
But when I do go, it really is bad for me.
32:39
Oh, how so? It's just Bell.
32:40
Bad. So the other day I was at Mother
32:43
Lode. I wrote a song about it.
32:44
It's called Mother Lode. What's your mother?
32:46
Lode experience. Talk about mother lode.
32:47
I've seen there a few times. I order.
32:49
OK, so here's the thing. I go to the bar.
32:50
I'm having a lovely night with my friends.
32:51
I order a Red Bull vodka and the bartender, depending on how you
32:54
depending on the time of the day, depending on the night, the
32:56
other blesses you or curses you because I ordered a Red Bull
32:58
vodka. I receive my glass.
33:00
I head over to my friends. I take a sip.
33:01
There is no Red Bull to be found.
33:03
That is, yes, it's strong mother.
33:05
Lode is crazy. They're strong, the.
33:08
Strongest straight handed sanitizer like when I said Yep,
33:10
100 percent 100% and exactly what you said.
33:14
It also depends on my mood because sometimes like yay and
33:16
the sun sounds like oh right it's bad, it's bad.
33:21
Shout out mother lode. Shout out.
33:22
Just very careful. There's so much Lauren.
33:26
We ho there is so much Lauren. So much Lauren we ho.
33:29
Oh my God, that's crazy. I didn't realize this were all
33:32
like universal experiences. I feel like I've really preyed
33:35
on at mother lode, Like that's when people really you like
33:38
latch on to me and they're like trying to touch me or whatever
33:40
with me and. I'm like I gotta.
33:41
It's not crazy like how random. No, I gotta.
33:44
Sometimes I'm just like, OK, period, I'm hot.
33:46
And then the other times I'm like, why?
33:48
What's happening? Yeah, what's going on here?
33:50
They they smell me. They know they want me.
33:53
I here's the thing, when I'm at the club, I don't go to the
33:57
club. I'm looking for love.
33:59
No, I go to the club to dance, to chill with my friends, to
34:04
Kiki mostly to gossip, talk shit about.
34:06
Period. I don't know whoever is in the
34:09
latest drama. I love hearing my friends work
34:13
stories because it's like my own personal reality show.
34:14
And isn't that crazy? Because it's like, I've never
34:16
met the people that you're talking about.
34:17
But I know everything about everything exactly.
34:20
Yeah, which character is who? What they're doing?
34:22
Yup, same, same, same. That's my favorite part.
34:24
Same. I just wrote that in my journal
34:26
where I was like, I'm not going to the club.
34:27
Exactly. I'm not going to the club to
34:28
hook up. I'm not looking for love.
34:30
I'm just here to have a good time, dance and cry, whatever.
34:32
Yeah, you know what I mean? You love a good cry at the cry
34:34
at. The club, yeah.
34:36
So when people come, I tend to like kind of I have this
34:41
strategic position this is so stupid.
34:44
I have, I have this strategic positioning where I in my group
34:47
of friends, I position myself in which I am the least accessible
34:51
to other people because a lot of the times if they're a stranger,
34:56
if they're a fan, like that's one, if they want a picture,
34:58
obviously. Yeah, of course.
35:00
Depending on how intoxicated I am.
35:01
Oh. My God, what are the levels?
35:04
Keeping it 100. Good.
35:05
We love it. We have the expectations.
35:07
Yeah, so that's one thing. And obviously I'm I'm OK with
35:13
that. It can be a little bit much
35:15
sometimes, but if I need your retreat, I will.
35:17
But with people who like, just like random strangers, I tend to
35:22
just be like, like, hey, yeah. Just having a key.
35:26
What's up right? What's your favorite color?
35:29
Kosovo. You're just.
35:31
Going to entertain a little, like here we are, yeah.
35:35
Like what's your favorite animal?
35:36
I don't know what that is, sorry.
35:38
Period. I've never heard of that color
35:40
before. Yeah, yeah, I don't have a
35:42
Zodiac sign, but what's your Zodiac sign?
35:45
I. Don't have one damn train down.
35:49
You got it. OK, I'm a guest.
35:51
One for you, OK. Fuck, I do have.
35:54
I mean, obviously, no shit you're a.
35:59
Hug, honestly, maybe, maybe you don't, who knows?
36:01
That's a very Gemini thing to say.
36:04
You know a Gemini. I thought Chinese Zodiac.
36:07
OK, I was about to say no. I'm I'm You're the monkey,
36:09
Aries, and you're the monkey. Which are you're an Aries?
36:12
I am an Aries I. Dead ass was going to guess
36:14
Aries for reals. For reals, yeah.
36:15
Yes, you give Aries. They are fire OOP.
36:19
There's a lot of like, fiery. I don't know what I was going to
36:23
say. Strong, you know, do you feel
36:26
like you do you feel like an Aries down?
36:28
I do feel like an Aries down I feel like.
36:30
Yeah, yeah, Aries, do you know your entire like chart?
36:34
People keep asking me on this on podcast and I'm like I need to
36:36
Google the answer at one of these points.
36:38
So then you can be prepared for the podcast.
36:39
It's like Aries Aries cancer something.
36:43
That so makes sense. Yeah.
36:45
Yes. Oh, my God.
36:47
So like you feel things? Yeah, You feel her.
36:50
I feel like me too. I feel like I'm a Virgo.
36:54
My birthday is coming up next month for everyone to know, but
36:59
I feel like I'm Virgo down. So super organized, you know,
37:02
like you know, when your manager was talking about like the show
37:05
and everything else, like yes, oh, thank God because she was
37:08
like, it's so well packaged. And I was like, yes, I love to
37:12
hear it because like, do you know anything about Zodi signs?
37:15
Burgos are like the ADHD thing you were saying.
37:18
So Burgos have ADHD? Kind of, yeah, I'm pretty sure
37:20
me does. Do we think I do?
37:22
Yes. Probably.
37:24
Oh I do. I mean ADHD down sure.
37:28
I'm not sure I mean girl see it. I'm not a psychiatrist.
37:33
TTTT don't know. That's fair.
37:35
I feel like it's a mix of ADHD, Virgo and a bit of tism for me.
37:44
Just a bit. Yeah.
37:45
That's basically everywhere in Los Angeles at this point being
37:47
included, minus the Virgo. So 100%, pretty much.
37:51
OK, well, that's what makes me me.
37:54
And I think that's my contribution to Los Angeles too.
37:57
Beautiful. I feel like that's what that is.
37:59
And that's why if I'm out in we home.
38:01
Also, feel free to say hi. Yeah.
38:03
Yeah. Wait, So when people come up to
38:04
you, you get recognized. Like we're talking, it's a major
38:07
shift like in the recent years you're so well known, but like
38:10
before it. Is a major shift, yeah.
38:14
How are you dealing with that? I don't know how to take it one
38:17
day at a time. Do you ever?
38:18
Think about it like or you just like or you just go.
38:21
Think about what? Like you're like, Oh my God, now
38:23
I'm like, everyone knows me, I'm recognized, etcetera.
38:25
Yeah, I'm making headlines. Well, yeah, yeah.
38:29
And it's like it goes from like zero to 100.
38:31
Yeah, no, it was quite fast. No, it's definitely something I
38:36
think of and it's something I'm grateful for, but obviously
38:38
there's a lot of things. There's a lot more I have to
38:41
consider with my life now, obviously.
38:45
But yeah, no, it's the choice that I made.
38:48
It's the choice that you made. It's the choice that we all
38:49
made. And the choices define how we
38:51
live our lives. The.
38:53
Classic Los Angeles tale. Exactly. 100%.
38:56
Yeah. That's what I think about that
38:57
too. I think about that where I'm
38:58
like, what I'm doing right now, where I'm like, this is this
39:02
show. People have this conception
39:03
where they're like, oh, you probably make a lot of money off
39:05
the podcast. I lose money off this podcast.
39:07
Oh yes, because I have to pay for all of this to happen.
39:10
Fair enough. Yes, I'm like, guys, let's do a
39:13
sponsorship. The Abbey.
39:15
Well, they're not going to sponsor you.
39:16
I don't. Think they're not going to
39:18
sponsor me? Oh my gosh, we'll censor it.
39:20
We'll we'll put a different club name, we'll throw, we'll throw
39:23
another one on. Their The Pink Pony Club.
39:24
The Pink Pony Club isn't. It I heard that was based off
39:27
the Abbey. It's based on the Abbey.
39:28
I was like, there's no difference.
39:30
You know what? I'm a stand 10 toes down Abbey.
39:33
You gave me a great story. I'm not mad.
39:35
I'm really not mad. Sponsor the show.
39:37
I think as long as maybe they like up the security and make
39:39
sure that people are safe, I think they need to.
39:42
More eyes on the scene. I think they need 100% up their
39:45
safety precautions, but. Yeah, Yeah, There's room for
39:48
improvement everywhere. Yeah, that's the PR answer.
39:52
Wait, so I was watching one of your interviews and you were
39:54
talking about, I think your PR training.
39:57
You said that your PR, your PR wanted to be PR trained and then
40:00
you were like rejecting it is. That what I said no.
40:03
What's TI? Could be I could completely be
40:06
misquoting. Maybe OK, ages ago I had no
40:09
media training whatsoever and people online were basically
40:11
begging me to get me to training.
40:13
Really. Yeah.
40:15
So I did some media training. Thank you, Self.
40:18
She's right. Shout out.
40:19
Shout out. It's going great.
40:22
Seriously. And I did media training in like
40:25
1 very specific aspect and then did it again, just no media
40:31
training. I feel like it's better just to
40:34
be yourself, say whatever. It's a bit of a dangerous
40:38
probably, but as long as you're careful, I think, yeah, that's
40:40
like, I think authenticity is always going to be like, yeah,
40:43
way to go, 'cause I think people are smart and they can tell.
40:46
100% yeah. And honestly, it's boring to
40:47
have like really nice clean PR answers anyways, you know?
40:50
Yeah, but also controversy is like, I get why people do it.
40:53
That's true, Yeah. There's a really fine line to
40:55
dance on. A nightmare to go through.
40:58
It's one thing to witness like online controversy is, but I
41:02
don't know, I feel like being in one I haven't really been in.
41:06
I didn't see any. I mean, I haven't been any been
41:09
in, Yeah, being in controvert. I think it depends, like if it's
41:14
like political or if it's like, if the drama's political and I'm
41:19
like, I know I'm right, then it's one thing.
41:22
But if it's like, I don't know, interpersonal gossip on social
41:26
media, I feel like that would be a bit of a different story.
41:28
That hasn't happened to me yet. I mean, maybe it will.
41:32
I don't know. What if this show comes out and
41:34
we said Tululu 12 times and then they just like come for?
41:36
Us, Oh my fans know that, I say. The word tulu, I think.
41:39
That's fair, right? I was telling Charlie on my way
41:41
here. This is I'm so sorry.
41:43
Real quick tangent. I did.
41:44
Charlie literally called me and he was like, do not do that
41:47
thing where you like, say what you sell, Sir, whatever.
41:50
And I was like, she said Tulu a bunch times.
41:53
I think I'm allowed to say Tulu. I think I can.
41:55
Are you gay? I'm gay.
41:57
No shit. I was like.
41:58
Tulu. Right.
41:59
Yeah. I was like, unless there is a
42:01
significant piece to the puzzle that was not in my possession.
42:05
Actually, I'm not. I'm cosplaying so I can say it
42:07
right. Faggot.
42:08
Yeah, period. Who was that?
42:10
Guy, I don't remember his name. It was Monica Beverly Hills, his
42:14
ex. Do you remember this?
42:15
I don't know he like. Pretended to be trans but like
42:19
how do I say this delicately? He kind of cosplayed as a brick
42:25
and then went, and I don't like brick as in he cosplayed what a
42:35
CIS person's idea of a trans person was and then made videos
42:39
on the Internet and then claimed it was all a ruse.
42:42
And then Monica Beverly Hills, I don't remember the details, but
42:46
she was like, yeah, no, it was like, I think a year ago.
42:49
Wait, what? For Like attention the guy.
42:52
Yeah, clearly. And then Monica Beverly Hills
42:54
was like, this is my eyes. He is.
42:58
And then she like came the. Guy with the lipstick right?
43:00
Probably. I think I know what you're
43:02
talking about. Were they like they were like
43:04
making content around it or whatever?
43:06
Content. Yeah, like rage bait type shit
43:08
or something. That's crazy.
43:09
That's actually what I'm doing right now.
43:11
Tululu. Hey everyone.
43:14
Oh yeah, the faggot thing. Yeah, I was like.
43:16
Tulu fucking. Like whatever.
43:18
I'm saying too, right? Before y'all got here where
43:21
you're sitting, where Savannah's sitting, Charlie was standing
43:24
there and then I was like, So what are the band words today?
43:27
And he was like, don't play dumb, don't say it.
43:29
And I was like, what are you talking about?
43:31
He's like, don't say. And I was.
43:32
Like, can we? Charlie?
43:35
Where is Charlie? Hey, Charlie, are you good?
43:39
Are you OK? Are you?
43:40
Are you mad at me? He's mad at me.
43:45
He's. Like we're good, right?
43:52
Right. But it's fun and authentic, you
43:55
know? Yes, and that's what we aim for
43:59
here at Ryan Line PRI. Think being delulu is the
44:02
opposite bill, I think. Actually, here's the thing.
44:05
Delusion, delusionality. Delusion.
44:10
Delusion. Aneurysm.
44:11
Delusionism. Is it not delusionality?
44:15
That doesn't sound like I'm saying it.
44:17
I'm like that sounds wrong. I feel like it feels right.
44:20
Delusionism. Delusion.
44:25
Delusia T Delusory. No, that's the edge.
44:29
No. Oh my God.
44:30
This is embarrassing. No, no.
44:31
It's been a language Curly. Let's find it, huh?
44:33
It's a real word. But you have it.
44:35
Right, it is a OK, what's it mean?
44:39
Delusional delusion. Oh yeah, OK, let's roll.
44:42
Period. I don't remember what I was
44:43
going to say, so now that was all for nothing.
44:45
Something about PR. SIT words Kidding.
44:49
I never. Yeah, and you're allowed to.
44:51
Delusional is not an SIT word. And you're welcome to.
44:56
I would never stop you from that.
44:57
I think there is a beautiful authenticity and being
45:00
completely delusional 100. Percent.
45:02
There is an authenticity about creating a fake world that you
45:06
would rather exist in and that you aspire to aim to words.
45:10
And you can make it your reality.
45:11
Yeah. That's manifestation.
45:13
And that's tea. That's tea.
45:16
Wait, have you feel like you've manifested anything in your life
45:18
that you can sit down and be like I manifested that?
45:20
I manifested being a dropout. That you were just on drop out
45:23
too? Yeah.
45:24
Oh my God, how was that? Wait, how did you manifest that?
45:26
I manifested it by asking them on Instagram.
45:29
That is how manifestation. Works I kind of DM Ed me and
45:31
then several months later they they were they I got the
45:34
casting. Really.
45:35
Yeah. Oh my God, Was it was it quick
45:38
after they got back to you and you just.
45:40
Got no, I just sent them a message and then like four
45:42
months later they were like, you should be on pretty gay and then
45:45
you should and then smarty pants.
45:49
How was that? It was so much fun.
45:51
See Manifestations real. Yeah.
45:53
Manifestations real. Yeah, No, they were so
45:56
incredible to work with. They're so fun.
45:58
I mean, obviously they're so funny, but.
45:59
Oh my God, they're so funny. I love drop out.
46:00
I love drop out. Gaggy.
46:03
When I was doing research for you coming on the show and I saw
46:05
that you were on it, I didn't get to watch it yet.
46:07
It's not out. Yet because I saw people
46:08
tweeting about. It they're pretty gay as out,
46:10
but drop the smarty pants. My episode's gone out.
46:13
Yeah, it will be probably. I don't know when this is coming
46:15
out, but unless this is coming out before Friday, which I have
46:17
really doubt, then it'll be out. So as of everyone watching, it's
46:21
out. It was so good.
46:21
Probably. I watched it.
46:22
Yeah, it was really good. I don't know.
46:24
Very smarty. I I haven't seen it.
46:26
So maybe it's a chop. Oh, doubt that.
46:29
I doubt that. I doubt that.
46:30
Doubt, doubt. Doubt.
46:31
Yeah. How long was it filming for
46:34
mine? We filmed it.
46:36
It was. I did one day of filming, but it
46:38
was like a complete day. Oh really?
46:40
Yeah. Should I DM them?
46:41
I want to go on. Maybe I don't know why not don't
46:45
I should probably we should. I should probably not be telling
46:49
random people that I got on job how much is damming them on
46:51
Instagram because now a bunch of people are going to DM them on
46:53
Instagram. Wait, it's different?
46:55
I'm sorry, I'm going to blow up their inbox.
46:57
We met, our PR reached out. Yeah, that's totally what I
47:01
meant. Did the proper channels right.
47:03
I've had a lot of guests come on the show just from Dming.
47:06
But yeah, no, it's kind of. OK, why not?
47:09
She was shot. Who knows?
47:10
You never know, right? You never know.
47:12
I think that's the that's the thing too.
47:13
It's just like, if you don't say it, like, how's it going to
47:15
happen? And that's goes back to
47:16
manifestation because you got to say it out loud and you got to
47:20
believe it when you let it happen.
47:22
Do you feel like you manifested your modeling career because you
47:25
walked for like Gucci? I love Gucci twice.
47:28
Twice. That's crazy.
47:29
Tell me about that Gucci. Which time?
47:35
Let's go with the recent one because you did February right.
47:38
I was in February and then I did the New York one as well.
47:42
You look so kind. Thank you.
47:44
You really give? Yeah, they did a really good
47:45
job. You did a really good job.
47:47
Well, you really hate that. I mean, what fast set of
47:49
modelling are you the most interested in?
47:50
Like editorial, like runway like.
47:52
It has my opinion has shipped in.
47:55
So I'm beforehand it was like I photo shoots was like the thing
48:01
I was like much preferred. Yeah, I have developed much more
48:07
of an interest in like, wait, let me let me let me restart
48:12
that. My answer has like shifted
48:16
gradually over time. So beforehand I would say
48:19
definitely campaign shoots. But the more I've done runway,
48:22
the more I like really fall in love with it.
48:25
Oh my God, they're playing the World Cup game outside.
48:27
Oh my God, I'm not surprised. What's the score?
48:30
Wait, let me see. That is so funny.
48:32
I can't read it from here. Is it still 00?
48:34
What do? We have y'all.
48:36
I can't see it's who's playing. It's Columbia versus
48:42
Switzerland, I think. You're gonna watch.
48:44
I mean, we'll bring the mics. Yeah, I am.
48:48
I have not been keeping up with it at all.
48:50
But I have been extremely right. I've kind of this is the first
48:53
like sports tournament. Do you like sports?
48:57
This is the first one that I've actually kept up with.
48:59
Really. Yeah, I've started to learn
49:01
ball. OK, 00.
49:03
Yeah, OK. It usually is.
49:05
This is controversial. Is this soccer or is it like
49:08
basket? It's World Cup.
49:10
Is it soccer? The World Cup?
49:12
Yes, The World Cup is what sport?
49:16
Soccer. Yes, girl, it's soccer, right?
49:18
Because I've been watching him and keeping up.
49:20
The US just got out last night. They did, so you know it was
49:23
soccer the whole time. OK, here's what I know.
49:27
Here's what I know when I am online and I'm I'm scrolling and
49:30
there's hot soccer players on my feed that's.
49:34
OK, that's fair. You know what, to each their
49:36
own. That's all I know and that's
49:38
that's honestly good. Which one do?
49:39
You think is attractive? I need to know.
49:42
The Hot 1. Which one's the Hot 1?
49:45
You know the one who Who do you find attractive?
49:49
Who do I find I don't need to find any of them attractive.
49:52
OK. I, I mean, I don't know, I'm
49:55
like, I'm on an NDA so I really can't say more.
49:57
Oh, right, yeah, no. Right, I understand you got it.
50:01
I understand you got it and privacy in best interest just
50:03
because like not trying to get tied up in any of that, you know
50:06
what I mean? But just keep up with blind item
50:10
and we can deduce I haven't do more.
50:13
I haven't kept up with blind item.
50:15
I've been really guiltily, pleasurely.
50:18
What's been going on over there? It'll be such bullshit.
50:20
It'll be like it'll be like the A A+ plus singer marrying the
50:27
football, NBA, whatever at MSG, don't like each other or
50:32
something. And I'll be like, I don't eat it
50:33
all, but I'll be like. Taylor Swift, Travis and Taylor
50:36
don't like each other. I don't know.
50:38
I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure they do.
50:40
I'm sure. They they're getting married.
50:41
They got married. They got married.
50:43
It was so. Beautiful.
50:44
I haven't seen the pictures or anything, I just know.
50:47
I just know it was at MSG, yeah. It was good.
50:49
It was like a little intimated private event.
50:52
It was cute. That was great.
50:53
I mean, fair enough, whatever. Yeah, it was good.
50:55
It was cute MSG That was the last time I was in New York for
50:58
the wedding. Tay Tay's a close personal
51:00
friend. Yeah, no, Yeah, I introduced you
51:02
to. You did.
51:03
I did. You did.
51:04
Wait. Why weren't you there?
51:08
There's. Been a falling out.
51:10
She she mentioned it in her vows.
51:12
I know. Yeah, I didn't want to say.
51:14
Anything, huh? Oh, vows.
51:15
Vows is what? Yeah.
51:17
I thought you. I thought you might Will.
51:18
I was like, she died, yes, and girl anyway, she was.
51:23
Talking about the fallout and yeah, I was like.
51:28
Oh, Swifties are bloodthirsty. You have to be very careful
51:30
about what I say. Oh my God, they are.
51:32
I had Sasha Allen on here, right?
51:35
I love Sasha Allen. I love Sasha, he was so.
51:38
Fucking funny. He is so funny and his music.
51:39
Is so good. He was like, Oh yeah, so good.
51:42
He's so talented. Oh my God.
51:43
He was on here and he was just like going off on Taylor, which
51:46
is funny because he's going off. He's a Swifty.
51:49
He was just like calling her like an environment.
51:50
Well, the private plane girl. It's I mean, all fair, but yeah,
51:56
it's all fair. And I was like telling him a
51:57
lot. He was saying all of this.
51:59
And I was sitting here and I was like, I'm so scared to respond
52:01
because I don't want Swifties coming after me.
52:03
But I was like, but it is your seat.
52:05
You go off. You know what I mean?
52:07
I wonder who his publicist is because like, he was just saying
52:09
whatever he wanted and good for him, right?
52:12
He's he's lucky. His publicist probably is like,
52:14
you're my favorite client, Sasha Allen.
52:16
You can say whatever you want. I mean you can also just you
52:19
disregard people's advice and say whatever the fuck you people
52:22
you want. So I mean if.
52:24
You. That's true.
52:25
You probably shouldn't, but it's an option that's.
52:28
So true. Yeah.
52:29
Oh, my God, so true. I honestly, I'm going to be so
52:31
real. I feel like I do just disregard.
52:33
I'm just like, I'm just going to do whatever I want.
52:35
Like the way I look at it, and this is actually probably bad of
52:38
me and maybe we'll cut this. This is actually my philosophy.
52:41
If I say or do anything that's bad and like the point of the PR
52:44
is that they'll clean it up. So I'm like, I can just do
52:46
whatever I want, right? Right.
52:48
I thought, I'm pretty sure the point of PR is to prevent that
52:50
in the first place. Crisis management management's a
52:53
part of it. My PR is like sweating in the
52:55
other room, right? Now, I've never had to deal with
52:56
crisis, I mean. I have not either.
52:58
I have not either. I used to be really scared of
53:00
like being cancelled. I don't know.
53:02
What crisis management would be? I'm trying to imagine like I'm
53:06
trying to imagine crisis management.
53:07
And in my head, it's just Ashley Barrett from The Boys.
53:11
Yeah, the bald one. Spoilers.
53:13
What did? They do.
53:14
Ashley. Yeah.
53:16
She was the one who basically cleaned up everyone's messes.
53:20
Yeah. And then she went bald and she
53:22
developed superpowers and she became the president.
53:24
Well, see. Yeah.
53:25
Well, do you know, have you seen Building the Band?
53:28
Building the Band? It's on Netflix.
53:30
There was this one girl who, like, got such bad press, and I
53:34
was like, I think she should get PR for crisis Management to
53:37
clean it up. You know what I mean?
53:38
She tried coming on the show, right?
53:40
And I honestly, I should have taken I forgot her name.
53:42
What's her name? Allison Ogden.
53:46
Do you know her? She's like an influencer now.
53:48
No so random but like. That's a depressing Alison.
53:51
I'm sure she's lovely. Allison, come on the show.
53:54
Yeah. Let's talk.
53:55
Well, I mean. She asked.
53:57
She her publicist asked Her publicist asked.
54:00
And you know what was funny at the time?
54:01
The show was very new and she was super controversial because
54:04
of the Netflix thing. And I was like, I was like, no,
54:06
no controversy. I can't associate with that.
54:08
And now I'm kind of like, whatever, we'll just fuck it, we
54:11
ball. You have me on SO.
54:13
You have not been controversial. It's been.
54:15
OK, I've been controversial among people who we are
54:17
completely fine disregarding. They are, yeah.
54:20
And I have, yeah, absolutely. The Conservatives 100% fuck
54:24
them. Yeah, I don't think they're
54:25
watching this anyway. I don't think so.
54:27
Unless they're do OK, I do have this thing.
54:29
There is this one twink on Twitter.
54:30
His name is Ollie London and he's going to be ecstatic that
54:33
I'm giving him attention. But he has gone through my
54:36
reposts and all of my videos to repost them on Twitter and talk
54:42
shit about me. He's a fan.
54:44
Yeah, he's literally, he's done it like 30 times.
54:46
He's definitely watched it. I haven't said anything this is
54:49
the first. Like I came for him once on
54:52
TikTok I think. Or maybe no it was threads like
54:54
a while ago for something completely different.
54:56
I think I kind of sent that bitch into psychosis.
54:59
Oh, for sure, I mean. They might have already been.
55:02
When you give them an inch, they go.
55:03
Here's the thing, Ollie, he has a history of what I can only
55:09
describe psychosis as I was going to say, the struggle.
55:14
And by the struggle, I mean mentally dealing with many
55:22
mistakes. Yeah, of their own making or of
55:29
their own intentions. Very, very good.
55:32
Well thought out several. Let's describe it.
55:34
Because, OK, they're a fucking bets is what I'm trying to say.
55:37
That was a generous way. Generous.
55:39
Yeah, no. Tried to change his race, tried
55:41
to change his race again, tried to change his race again.
55:43
Then fake being transgender. Then stopped faking being.
55:47
Trans are they like big online or something?
55:50
I don't know if they're big, they're kind of just like
55:52
Notorious they're. Just all over you.
55:54
They're kind of like a low cow. Wait, are they like are they
55:57
like a Republican twink or something?
56:00
Like are they like Hulu? Oh honey, like falls it as glass
56:05
Hulu or just like I think Hulu. I mean, definitely look him up,
56:10
put a picture or look him up. Like make you can make your own
56:15
judgments, yes. He's for sure watching this
56:17
right now one. 100% he tried to get plastic surgery to look like
56:20
Jimin so I've been calling him Jimint.
56:22
Oh my God, that's crazy. Did it work?
56:25
Did you see Look OK. I was like, I don't even see
56:27
that being possible. That's crazy.
56:28
He's. Definitely going to see this and
56:30
then he's going to say something.
56:31
So Ollie London, give me a word. Homophobe.
56:33
Homophobe. Yeah, like, I mean, maybe I
56:36
don't think he's on anything. I don't think he stands for
56:37
anything. I think he just says what he
56:39
wants to get attention or not what he wants.
56:41
I think he just says what he does to get attention or clicks
56:44
or whatever because. We need to reel it in.
56:45
There's a line, you know. Yeah, I probably shouldn't be
56:47
talking about him, but I'm laughing at him, OK?
56:50
Why not, right? Like, yeah, I've never heard of
56:52
this person That's they're camped out in your.
56:55
Room I could say the same. They're camped out on your shit
56:57
though, clearly. I'm damn because we're kind of
57:00
deep in this episode. Imagine they find this hey.
57:02
Yeah, they will find it. Someone will send it to.
57:05
Them I believe you, I believe you wait, how do you deal with
57:08
like the online like rage baiter design, because I feel like I.
57:10
Don't know why I go outside. Just touch grass.
57:12
It's like, whatever, fuck it. Yeah.
57:14
You know, I used to get so scared about getting cancelled.
57:16
I don't know why, but like when I first started being a
57:18
consecrator, I was really scared about being cancelled.
57:21
And if you really panicked and everything and then it's exactly
57:24
how I would just be like I'm just going to turn my phone off.
57:25
Like especially I just had a fucking episode with Serrana.
57:29
She was she actually Co wrote pinky up.
57:32
Oh yes, love that. Yes, yeah, shout out Serrana.
57:35
She was just on the show and we posted a clip from her episode
57:38
and it went viral and they were calling me a dumb ass in the
57:41
comments for what they were like, Oh, he is gapping so much.
57:45
He's interrupting her so much. He's special.
57:48
He's dumb, duh. Duh, there are a lot of people
57:50
who say the same about me, but. That's crazy because I'm just
57:52
like bro, it's a conversation, no?
57:53
It's a podcast like you don't. Here's the thing, if you don't
57:57
like someone's personality, just turn the.
57:59
Video off. Just turn it.
58:00
Off with any specific podcast, yes, I guarantee you that like
58:03
that person. If you think that someone else
58:06
is interrupting someone else or like whatever, yes.
58:10
Most people have been on several different podcasts.
58:12
You can just put on a different podcast episode if the person
58:14
find. Something else like you've got
58:15
options and I'm also like, if you like, that's active
58:18
listening, right? To be like yes.
58:21
You know what I mean? Like.
58:22
Hey, yes, hey everyone. I've seen that one clip of what
58:25
Lara Raj in the fucking like. No, I haven't.
58:28
She's in this, I don't know how to describe it.
58:31
She's in this like blanket onesie and she was and the Cliff
58:38
is having her just going yes, I'm.
58:41
Gonna that's me. What the OR?
58:43
Yes, I don't know if I don't know if the audio of the video
58:46
that the image, the image people use, it's her like robbed in a
58:48
blanket and they just go yes, I don't know it's there's
58:51
something so I've seen that it's so funny.
58:53
I need to get. Bigger into the cat's eye.
58:55
Like, like you like, Yeah. I feel like, I feel like that's
58:58
up my alley. There's something so dadaist
59:00
about it. Oh, I love people.
59:03
Yeah, well, I feel like a lot of the there's something so dadaist
59:07
about the yes moment and also a lot of the lyrics.
59:10
Yeah, I don't know. Well, it's camp.
59:12
It's camp. It's.
59:13
Camp, like, honestly, the girls are mad because everyone in the
59:16
comments because she wrote it and she was talking about on the
59:17
show and they were like, oh, you're the one who did that?
59:20
And I was like, it's like their biggest song.
59:22
Yeah, Like what? You know, I'm not the perfect
59:26
example of someone ready to handle the kind of party
59:30
required to go in fully inspired by.
59:34
Yeah, end of sentence. I don't remember the next fire
59:38
I. Was like I was like long see and
59:41
look at me not interrupting y'all.
59:42
Yeah exactly. I gave her the space to finish
59:45
or she's not to finish. You gave me the space 100% yeah.
59:48
Oh. My gosh, how is Pinky up?
59:51
I'm holding space for the lyrics of.
59:52
I'm not the perfect example of someone ready to handle the kind
59:55
of why I took up with Philly. Inspired by How was Pinky Up?
1:00:00
Pinky up. It was so much fun.
1:00:02
I love filming that it. Looked.
1:00:04
Good. Yeah.
1:00:05
The one thing I will say spill is between takes, because it was
1:00:10
so we filmed it quite late at night because it was so fucking
1:00:14
cold between takes. Every time they turned the
1:00:17
camera off they would have people run to like bring us
1:00:19
jackets and robes and blankets and stuff.
1:00:21
You. Didn't give cold though, you
1:00:23
know. No, we didn't.
1:00:24
Came out really good. It did.
1:00:26
No. I was kind of gagged when I saw.
1:00:27
I was like, oh, I did not realize.
1:00:29
I was like they look good and I really do love that song.
1:00:33
So funny. Small world because Asrana, she
1:00:35
Co wrote it. You're in the video, right?
1:00:37
We have cats like coming on next week.
1:00:38
All of that really we're manifesting, manifesting.
1:00:43
But I love that you have the disbelief.
1:00:45
Girl, they're booked in busy. I was like, there's a lot of
1:00:47
channels to cross before they come on.
1:00:49
We don't even have the resources of bringing them on.
1:00:52
We have two. Yeah, there's.
1:00:52
Like I was about to say, there's not a lot of room on this couch.
1:00:55
Right, right, right. We have to do a little a little
1:00:58
low budget mic share type situation, you know.
1:01:01
Yum. So how's it going?
1:01:05
It's going well. Also for the pinky up thing I
1:01:07
wrote there's a funny story I have.
1:01:10
So they released like a teaser for it right and it's me and
1:01:14
that girl, we call them the dolls eye girls.
1:01:15
We have a group chat. It's very cute.
1:01:19
And so they put the teaser and this was right when Monon Titus
1:01:23
was announced, right? So in the teaser, they think
1:01:27
that Catalina, who's one of the dolls, they were circling her
1:01:31
and being like, Oh my God, that's going to be mammal.
1:01:34
Yeah, she was in it for. She was like, they there was
1:01:39
like thousands of people who were saying this.
1:01:42
It was crazy to witness at the time.
1:01:45
And then obviously that was not that.
1:01:47
Well, no, but yeah, it was. How did everyone else react?
1:01:52
Because then was everyone. Like all my girls.
1:01:54
Yeah. Was everyone like should we go
1:01:55
with it or like? I mean, we were laughing about
1:02:01
it when? Was the video filmed?
1:02:04
Yeah, they thought I was Alex. I got comments being like Oh my
1:02:06
God. They said, Alex, I'm sorry, I've
1:02:08
seen that. I.
1:02:09
Screenshot of one of them because I thought it was so
1:02:10
funny. I get those.
1:02:12
I got that, like, all the time. Yeah.
1:02:16
And yeah, compared to Hunter and Alex a lot, I don't mind it.
1:02:21
They're both amazing. So that's.
1:02:24
Interesting. I can I guess I could see that.
1:02:26
I that was kind of my reaction at first.
1:02:28
It was like I guess. I could see.
1:02:30
That but. Yeah.
1:02:32
Yeah, no, because there might. Just be a trick delulu.
1:02:34
That's what I've. Kind of suspected, but you know
1:02:36
what? That's what I'm me think because
1:02:37
I'm like kinda. I love them.
1:02:39
They're both trans excellence, so I don't really mind.
1:02:42
Yeah, the. Delulu.
1:02:46
Delulu. I've heard of the trip Delulu.
1:02:51
Oh my gosh, I wish I could. I wish I could physically see my
1:02:54
PR team reacting, but we're having a lot of fun.
1:02:59
Yeah. So this has been good.
1:03:01
We've been authentic and real, etcetera.
1:03:04
So who are you manifesting working with?
1:03:07
You just did Savage Xfenty slay. That's so good.
1:03:11
Are you any any partnerships you're trying to manifest?
1:03:18
We have partnerships I'm trying to manifest.
1:03:20
I would love to work with more. I think I'm manifesting, working
1:03:26
with more career brands right now.
1:03:28
I love that. Yeah, no, I always love doing
1:03:31
that. Like Tomboy X and yeah, Wild
1:03:35
Fang were both. They were some of my first
1:03:37
experiences and they were like very.
1:03:39
They were like, really? I love those passion.
1:03:42
Yeah, no, when there's like, I don't like working with other
1:03:47
queer people is just, I don't know, it tends to be a little
1:03:50
bit easier for me just because there's always already that
1:03:53
common ground. Obviously, I have no problem
1:03:55
with working with straight people.
1:03:56
I feel like if I had a problem with working with straight
1:03:58
people I wouldn't have a job, but yeah.
1:04:01
I feel that my entire team is queer.
1:04:03
Yeah, no, it is nice to be like, it's nice to just have that
1:04:07
connection with someone on set. And because there's that same
1:04:13
general sort of like. Cultural.
1:04:16
I'm a universal experience that we just talked about of
1:04:19
everything like, yeah, literally.
1:04:20
Us. Yeah, exactly.
1:04:21
No, because there's more of like a commonality that you can have.
1:04:23
So you can it can create like an atmosphere that's more like
1:04:26
warming and that's yeah, sorry, so I can exactly.
1:04:29
So I can create an atmosphere that's like comfier and warmer
1:04:32
and more like you're more at home, right?
1:04:34
Yeah, and more familiar. Who do you hate right now?
1:04:37
Who do I hate right now? I personal people hate.
1:04:40
Should I name drop I'm? Just probably not, but I mean by
1:04:43
all means, who do you hate? Right now I love that question.
1:04:45
Who do I? I'm not the one answer.
1:04:47
Good question. If I give one, will you give
1:04:49
one? Should we do someone well known?
1:04:51
Who do I? I can't.
1:04:52
I need to think of one for OK. Oh, OK.
1:04:55
Who's been bothering me a lot recently?
1:05:00
I do I hate right now. I feel like unfortunately, and I
1:05:02
hate admitting this, but I do I do like to hate watch.
1:05:05
So like, I like to like watch people I don't like and be like,
1:05:11
oh, I hate you, but obviously don't do that.
1:05:15
Right. Who am I hate watching?
1:05:16
You know who I used to really hate Watch a lot of.
1:05:18
They're not even active anymore. I feel like it's fair, but do
1:05:21
you know who Gabby Hannah is 0? My God.
1:05:24
Let's tea, let's. Tea.
1:05:26
Oh, there is some stuff. No way.
1:05:28
No, I don't know her personally. I've never interacted with her.
1:05:31
I've never met her. I used to be a huge fan of her
1:05:33
when I was like in high school. Me too.
1:05:35
I haven't told anyone that. During the Vine era, I was a
1:05:37
huge fan. Of not the Vine era.
1:05:39
Wait, like YouTube's No, like the music era high school.
1:05:42
We loved her music. You stand butterflies.
1:05:44
I used to love that song Two way mirror.
1:05:46
You like two way mirror her EP bad karma.
1:05:49
I I listened to them on YouTube girl.
1:05:50
I was not very musically. Yeah, I didn't have a lot of
1:05:53
musical know how. Oh wait, you were a huge fan.
1:05:55
I liked you're a Gabby fan of I was.
1:05:59
I loved the song out loud and I loved the song honestly.
1:06:02
Really. Yeah, those weren't good.
1:06:04
They were good. I will defend that.
1:06:06
I still. I still.
1:06:08
Feel they were weak or. I have dandelions in my playlist
1:06:11
to this day. Oh my God, and I have.
1:06:13
No, I have. Gabby Standard down.
1:06:17
Or I haven't. I mean, what has she been up to?
1:06:20
Recently, so honestly, the last I checked in, my hate watching
1:06:23
of her was oh right, the psychosis I think that she
1:06:27
experienced in the pandemi Lovato.
1:06:29
And then I think she became, wait, what about Christian?
1:06:32
Oh, the Pandemi Lovato, Pandemi Lovato.
1:06:34
You know when they shut down, like the entire world.
1:06:36
Right, right, right. No, She she sang heart attack
1:06:39
and then and then there were millions of people.
1:06:41
Off Cool The first chords of Cool for the summer started and
1:06:44
the world shut off Here he had. They're like you want to say,
1:06:46
cool for the summer, ACAC inside.
1:06:49
You're going to stay home. Unless you're in England and
1:06:51
then you're just fucked. They don't have OK.
1:06:55
Every American is like gags that England doesn't have AC and it's
1:07:01
something I knew of. I did not know the extent they
1:07:04
are debating right now on like the BBC and British news and
1:07:08
British people are debating whether or not they should have
1:07:12
fucking air conditioning. Air conditioning.
1:07:15
I feel like it should be human right now.
1:07:16
People are dying. It's a heat wave.
1:07:19
It's a heat wave. I think it's not going to get
1:07:20
any colder. So why don't they have ACI?
1:07:22
Don't. What's like the What's the
1:07:24
logistics behind that? I don't understand like at all,
1:07:27
but that's. Crazy.
1:07:31
Previously they didn't need it. Why?
1:07:33
Was it out there? Yes, it's very good.
1:07:34
But should. But launch summer has like the
1:07:35
summers in England have like never been pleasant and people
1:07:38
have died of not having AC before.
1:07:40
I don't understand. This is just such a fixable
1:07:42
problem. Absolutely.
1:07:43
Why don't they just get? Can they?
1:07:45
Just if you are so against AC, just don't get it.
1:07:48
Yeah, just don't get it right. I don't.
1:07:51
What's going on over there? I don't really know.
1:07:52
That's T girl I did just find out recently and I thought it
1:07:56
was a joke sees right but no it's like.
1:07:57
No, it's like a thing. They don't have AC, Yeah.
1:07:59
I mean, it's been hot though. I mean, AC isn't good for the
1:08:02
environment, but we have data centers.
1:08:05
I feel like that should be the priority, right?
1:08:06
That we should be like. There's bigger wars to fight
1:08:09
over here, yeah. Right.
1:08:10
Absolutely. Oh my God, that's crazy, because
1:08:13
I know it's super hot in New York right now too.
1:08:14
It's actually really hot here. I feel like the weather in New
1:08:16
York is never good. It's never good.
1:08:18
That's what I hated about living in New York.
1:08:19
I was either super depressed or was super hot.
1:08:21
Yep, You know what I mean? No in between.
1:08:23
But I like, I like the vibes. But you know, other than.
1:08:25
That the vibes are nice. The vibes are nice but like the
1:08:27
weather she's not the girl so. The first time I went to
1:08:31
Manhattan and I looked up, I got Vertigo.
1:08:33
Really. No girl.
1:08:34
I mean not like like spitting round and round and.
1:08:36
Round kind of, yeah. That's, that's, I mean, a little
1:08:38
bit of an exaggeration, but hey, no, I literally looked up and I
1:08:43
span around and around and then I fell on the floor and then I
1:08:45
threw up and then I got up and then everybody clapped for me.
1:08:50
What? Not the applause?
1:08:51
What the fuck? Were you alone?
1:08:55
Yeah, this just happened. That's I was alone.
1:08:57
I was surrounded by 18 gay people.
1:09:01
As one. As one he is.
1:09:02
As one he is. Yeah.
1:09:03
In Lower Manhattan, which I hope is a real place, you're.
1:09:07
A Vertigo talking. Right.
1:09:09
Yeah, I'm a Vertigo. What's your sign?
1:09:11
I'm a Vertigo. I love that.
1:09:12
Me too, girl. Spin me round and round and
1:09:14
round and again and again and again.
1:09:17
That's how Vertigo works. It's actually science, right?
1:09:20
OK, so we've been chatting, we've been kicking, right?
1:09:25
Can I give you a tarot? Reading, of course.
1:09:27
OK, wait, do you have anything on your mind?
1:09:29
Do I have anything on my mind? Should I just pull?
1:09:31
Do you have questions? What's going on, Vivian?
1:09:35
We should. OK, I feel like this is going to
1:09:38
be really funny and it's kind of unhinged.
1:09:41
So Charlie might have a problem with this.
1:09:43
I don't feel like we should read for ourselves.
1:09:46
There is a man out there in grave need and danger.
1:09:50
His name is Mitch McConnell and I feel like we should do a tarot
1:09:53
reading for Mr. McConnell. I pull the deaf card right now.
1:09:59
Imagine if I did. Do you want to take bets on
1:10:01
whether he's alive or not? He's dead.
1:10:03
He's definitely brain dead. He's dead.
1:10:05
I think if he's not dead as a filming this right now, he'll be
1:10:07
dead by he's in a coma. I think that's what it is.
1:10:10
Yeah, that's my suspicion. No, he's he's gone.
1:10:12
You know what I mean? I don't think.
1:10:13
Should we find out? Maybe they've revealed it during
1:10:16
the course of this podcast. We'll find out.
1:10:17
I'm sure they know because by the time this comes out, it'll
1:10:20
probably be announced. My insider information is
1:10:23
telling me he's there was reports that like Laura Loomer
1:10:27
was like, he's gone. I think I saw that.
1:10:29
Yeah, yeah. OK.
1:10:30
I'll find out right now. But I also don't Laura Loomer is
1:10:34
like, well, she's Laura Loomer, so 2.
1:10:35
Of cops. Maybe he's alive, maybe he has,
1:10:38
because I feel like this looks like the medical thing in the
1:10:41
hospitals. Could you see the stuff?
1:10:43
Yes, you're, you're so smart. You've had so many big words
1:10:46
that Elmo doesn't know. Is there a podcast?
1:10:48
And I'm, I'm not even kidding. I've been just smiling and
1:10:50
nodding. I'm just saying them because I'm
1:10:52
like, I don't know what that means.
1:10:53
I'm trying to use context clues. It's not happening.
1:10:56
He might be alive. Maybe, maybe this is really not.
1:11:00
We're not, we're not. So 2 of cups.
1:11:03
There were two cups, 2 cups of maybe one of the cops is life
1:11:07
and one of the cops is death. So to the cops represents that
1:11:10
either cup could be an option. So he's either you.
1:11:13
Read and doubt. Alive or dead?
1:11:14
One of the cops is he's alive. One of the cops is dead.
1:11:16
So what we're getting here? Is nowhere.
1:11:21
We're getting that. We'll find out, I guess, through
1:11:24
the news or such. You know, I think he's dead
1:11:28
though, personally, Personally. Mitch McConnell, If you're alive
1:11:31
and you're watching this, I. I will send you flowers.
1:11:34
I was going to say I'm sorry and then I realized.
1:11:36
No, I'm not. I'm not.
1:11:39
I was like, no, I'm not sorry. Like.
1:11:43
He looks like a Galapagos tortoise.
1:11:45
Oh my God, absolutely yes. Low key insults.
1:11:49
Of the turtles, he did look like he looked like a Galapagos.
1:11:51
At some point in his in his life that he had cuz you know.
1:11:56
I mean I don't even know what his prowess are anymore.
1:11:58
Are they he him or the pronoun is?
1:12:01
That was so the pronoun, so not funny.
1:12:03
The pronoun is dead. The pronoun is RIP.
1:12:06
Right. JK is this?
1:12:07
Is this all controversial? OK, so let's pull out another
1:12:11
card from Mr. McConnell. OK, what's going on?
1:12:14
I'm going to be, I'm going to be gags.
1:12:16
What is it? It's 4 of pentacles.
1:12:18
So. What do we What do you think?
1:12:21
A pentacle, there are four of them and four there.
1:12:24
There's four leaf Clover that has four tea, tea and pentacle
1:12:29
is like, I don't know, maybe it's a pentagram with tentacles
1:12:32
on it. That's what I'm kind of
1:12:34
gathering so. That's the wombo of Pentacle.
1:12:36
So maybe it's that if he's dead, the four leaves represent A4
1:12:41
leaf Clover. So maybe, well, maybe he has
1:12:45
luck and maybe the luck is the luck.
1:12:48
The luck for us is that he's gone.
1:12:51
And then he the penta pentagram hell tentacles.
1:12:57
Tea. Make that what you will.
1:13:01
You're reading down. You're a reader, right?
1:13:03
You're a reader. I totally know what I'm doing.
1:13:04
Los Angeles. Born and raised, naturally
1:13:06
psychic. I mean, that's got to be, yeah.
1:13:08
Yeah. I mean he's dead girl, but
1:13:13
sorry. I think we pulled one.
1:13:16
Do we pull there's? 11, there's 33.
1:13:19
Let's see. Three.
1:13:20
All right? Yeah.
1:13:21
Wait. I feel like I pulled 3.
1:13:22
Let's do another. Right.
1:13:23
No, you pulled 2. You pulled two?
1:13:24
Yeah, OK. Third one.
1:13:26
What is that, 6 of Pentacles? Oh, we got 246 in reverse.
1:13:31
Wait, oh, this is the hanged. Man in reverse hanged, Man in.
1:13:35
Oh right, she's kind. Of giving.
1:13:37
She's giving, she's giving, she's giving so this is in
1:13:40
reverse oh, it's supposed to oh, I get it right, right.
1:13:43
Oh wait that's cute. Her hair is going up right So.
1:13:47
What do you got for us? Suspended person from life.
1:13:51
Suspended from life. Suspended from life.
1:13:54
Well, and then he's going to do an Irish jig.
1:13:59
You guys, all of the Republican to Lulu fans are going to be so
1:14:02
upset. I don't even think.
1:14:04
They're where I don't. Know.
1:14:06
Imagine. Oh my gosh.
1:14:08
All of the conservative fan of this podcast the.
1:14:11
Singular it was Mitch McConnell who It was Mitch McConnell.
1:14:15
What do you mean who? That was him.
1:14:16
He was a fan. He's dead now.
1:14:18
Yeah, well, it was. There.
1:14:22
There it goes. That was it.
1:14:23
That was a good reading. Yeah.
1:14:25
You were a good reader. Thank you.
1:14:27
Wait. I'm gonna can you.
1:14:28
I'm gonna pull one. Actually, can you pull one for
1:14:30
me? Yeah.
1:14:30
Just give me whatever you whatever.
1:14:32
You come out just OK. I'm gonna.
1:14:34
I'm trusting it. Fuck it.
1:14:35
You really shouldn't. I'm gonna I'm.
1:14:37
Just gonna, I'm gonna this one I see it's.
1:14:39
Mercury retrograde? Fuck it, why not?
1:14:41
I got a ladies mantle Queen of cups in the upright position.
1:14:46
OK slide. So Queen of Cups means, well,
1:14:51
the girls are going to grow for you, which I mean, maybe that's
1:14:57
a good thing. I don't know.
1:14:58
Claiming I don't know what's going on in your what she wants
1:15:00
for your claiming. I want you know what if you want
1:15:01
giant double DS. I want them.
1:15:03
I mean the mommy milkers. This is a good sign.
1:15:06
I'm claiming. Yeah, I'm claiming.
1:15:07
Claiming. Love that.
1:15:08
Yay, I think that was a good reading.
1:15:14
Yeah. You should read Taro.
1:15:18
I I feel like I would get caught up.
1:15:22
OK. I feel like it's kind of like
1:15:23
this movie. Have you ever seen probably
1:15:27
there's this movie called Fuck, what's it called?
1:15:30
It's with this hand. The movie is about this kind of,
1:15:34
it's, oh, my God, I don't remember.
1:15:37
It's Australian. It's Australian movie about this
1:15:40
girl. They have this, like, hand.
1:15:42
It's like the severed psychic's hand.
1:15:43
And you shake it, ghosts come and then you get like, possessed
1:15:47
and she, like, loses her mind. Is this a popular movie?
1:15:52
Maybe. I don't know.
1:15:52
Someone showed it to me, so I don't really know.
1:15:55
It's Australian. I just remember.
1:15:56
I'm like, do they have accents? Well, yeah, The Australian.
1:16:00
I was like, damn, Australian. I didn't know Australia could
1:16:04
make films like that. I guess so I guess not.
1:16:06
I mean, I'm. Gonna have to watch.
1:16:07
I mean, is it scaryies? Is it scary?
1:16:09
Yes. I don't like scary movies.
1:16:11
Then probably don't. Do you like scary movies?
1:16:13
Yeah, really. I mean, I like, here's the
1:16:15
thing. I like scary.
1:16:16
I don't like excessively gory. Yeah.
1:16:18
Same. It's so unnecessary.
1:16:20
Yeah, I can't with the. Yes.
1:16:22
I have a very low like tolerance for like.
1:16:25
Samesies. Disgust and stuff.
1:16:27
Like I get grossed out really easily.
1:16:29
Same, body horror is really bad for me.
1:16:31
I don't like that I. Love body horror in literature?
1:16:35
Oh, tea, yeah. For your imagination though.
1:16:37
Right, so you don't have to see it.
1:16:38
That's tea, yeah. When you're imagining it.
1:16:40
Is it like more tame though? I mean, I'm thinking of this
1:16:44
like one book in particular. Which one?
1:16:46
Frankenstein. How followed Were those right?
1:16:48
Yes, one of my faves. No, it's good.
1:16:52
It's cute and there's a lot of body horror in that book, and
1:16:55
yeah, but I think it's really. Would you read a lot?
1:16:58
I read yeah. You're like a woman of the arts.
1:17:01
No, who's your? Favorite artist?
1:17:02
My favorite artist. I feel like we talk movies,
1:17:04
bunch of books like La La la. Like singer Gigi Perez.
1:17:10
Oh yeah, T mention her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:17:13
Oh my God. Wait, who else?
1:17:14
Oh, I'm going to see if we have any similar ones.
1:17:16
I mean cat's eye, of course. Oh tea girls.
1:17:18
Oh my God I love Internet girl. Adela Yeah.
1:17:21
Internet girl is my. I feel like you got overheated I
1:17:23
think. It did.
1:17:23
It's fun. It's so unfair, people.
1:17:25
People just get mad. You listen to Cat's Eye when you
1:17:29
want to have fun. You're just trying to have fun.
1:17:30
Have a fun girly night. What's the problem?
1:17:32
When it doesn't like or when you want to be hyped up, it's not
1:17:35
like. Oh my God, you're the Internet
1:17:37
girl. I am the Internet girl.
1:17:38
That's tea, so it resonated when it came.
1:17:41
Out. They wrote the song about me.
1:17:42
They literally did. Oh my God.
1:17:44
Yeah, you really literally. They sat me down.
1:17:47
I sat down with the President Cat's Eye channel, and I told
1:17:50
her I'm gonna make history, and that's what that was.
1:17:53
And that's what that was. That's what that was.
1:17:54
And that's what that was. My God.
1:17:56
And they brought in the Internet girl for a Peaky up.
1:17:59
Yeah. Tea, right?
1:18:00
TTT My God. Well, thank you for your
1:18:02
service. My gosh, thank you.
1:18:03
I fucking love Internet girl. Eat zucchini.
1:18:06
Eat zucchini. Hello.
1:18:07
Eat zucchini. Eat zucchini.
1:18:10
They're telling people to suck a Dick and I find that chiving
1:18:12
because. I mean like people didn't know
1:18:13
for a long they were like what is she saying?
1:18:15
I'm like I feel like it's OVS. It's like one step away from it,
1:18:19
right? Right.
1:18:20
It's like not something that anyone ever says, but at the
1:18:22
same time it's just kind of. It's so constant camp.
1:18:27
PR Washed. I mean, it's very pure.
1:18:31
Well, it's like. Charlie was in the room when
1:18:32
they wrote it about you, Charlie.
1:18:34
XXX My my publicist, Emilio. My publicist, Charlie.
1:18:39
The more important Charlie of the three, right?
1:18:41
No, Charlie. XCX, Charlie, Demilio and
1:18:43
Charlie were published. We were all in the room.
1:18:45
We were actually having a key with the girls and we didn't
1:18:47
invite you. But I guess I'm not an Internet
1:18:49
girl. You know what you did?
1:18:51
Listen, I talked about our Charlie.
1:18:53
I thought we cleared it up. Charlie XCX, by the way, right?
1:18:55
I thought we cleared it up. But I guess if she's still mad,
1:18:57
then I don't know what to say. I gave my apology and to be
1:19:02
honest, while we're here, I'm going to clear it up.
1:19:04
I'm not sorry Charlie XDX. I'm not sorry.
1:19:08
Do you think she's going to respond?
1:19:11
She always does, Yeah. She can't resist it.
1:19:13
She loves talking to you, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:19:17
I mean, if I have the energy for it, like, we'll cut this,
1:19:21
obviously, because, like, personal private.
1:19:23
But like, Charlie, I gotta. Yeah, She could be a lot.
1:19:28
She could be a lot. She blows me up all the time.
1:19:30
Right? Do you know?
1:19:31
Oh, my God, this is an exclusive just for you, right?
1:19:34
You know her new album, music Fashion film.
1:19:36
Yeah, that one. Have you seen the album cover
1:19:40
with the? Three people.
1:19:42
It's like Marc Jacobs. Right.
1:19:45
Is it a Swarzi? Martin Swarzi.
1:19:47
Martin Scorsese. That one, yes.
1:19:50
And another guy or whatever. And that's you.
1:19:54
It was supposed to be me. Oh, and we had that falling out.
1:19:57
Yeah. And then she canned me from the
1:20:00
cover and replaced me with Does anyone know who?
1:20:02
Martin Scorsese. One of them or.
1:20:05
I think is Martin Scorsese really on the cover?
1:20:07
Isn't he like a famous director? And she replaced literally on
1:20:11
the cover, ready, queued up. Is it actually Martin Scorsese?
1:20:15
Can someone pull it up? Yeah, let's get Proofy Woofy.
1:20:18
Yeah, No, look up Charlie XEX Go on Spotify.
1:20:21
I'm sure it's on her presave and guys, it is literally him and no
1:20:25
one knew this because I didn't want to talk about it before but
1:20:27
fuck it I'll talk about it now. It was supposed to be me.
1:20:29
I know. And how does that make you feel?
1:20:31
Honestly I was annoyed because she's petty right?
1:20:33
But I also understood it because I'm mostly petty so I was like
1:20:36
she got it from me. If you could say anything to her
1:20:38
at this moment, what would you say?
1:20:41
Do you want to patch up the beef?
1:20:43
Shit, should I? My publicist thinks I should.
1:20:45
But you know what? Charlie XEXI won't.
1:20:48
I should have been on the cover. I'm mad.
1:20:50
Maybe the deluxe. OK, deluxe.
1:20:51
Put me on the deluxe cover. We'll make up.
1:20:54
We'll work it on the remix. I see.
1:20:56
Period. Did you know girls?
1:20:57
Do you know girls? So confusing.
1:20:59
Girls. So confusing, right?
1:21:00
So confusing sometimes to be a girl.
1:21:02
That was also about me. Well, now I am confused.
1:21:07
Well, we had this beef. Right.
1:21:09
We we have a very on and on, on again, off again, friendship or
1:21:12
whatever, whatever. It's typical, typical thing.
1:21:14
You know how Charlie is? Yeah.
1:21:15
You know how Charlie is, right? Anyways, my publicist says I
1:21:19
can't keep talking about. It I have a question, Yeah.
1:21:21
What was it like growing up in New Zealand?
1:21:26
It was good. I felt like I didn't have a lot
1:21:28
of luxury around me. It was a lot of suburbs, right?
1:21:31
So, you know, it just I felt very disconnected from culture
1:21:35
and media. Everyone was talking about like
1:21:38
Grey Goose and like diamonds on their teeth and like nice
1:21:41
watches and things. And I was just like, for me, I
1:21:43
was like, I will never be a royal.
1:21:47
Yeah. So.
1:21:47
I got it. I don't know.
1:21:49
It was, it was an interesting experience for me really.
1:21:52
Right. Like, I was a very suburban kid
1:21:53
out there. Yeah, no, it's, it must be so
1:21:56
hard from a girl from Welling Ockland.
1:21:59
Christchurch. Yes, that's correct.
1:22:01
That one. Christchurch.
1:22:02
Yes, yes. It was hard.
1:22:04
It was hard. It was hard, yeah.
1:22:07
Those are the four ones I know. And you got them right.
1:22:10
There's Dunedin, Christchurch, Auckland, Wellington, other ones
1:22:14
I don't remember, it's fine. You are actually genuinely you
1:22:17
guys. I've you know what's funny?
1:22:20
So my other guest, Sarana, she was on the show, the comments
1:22:23
were calling me stupid or whatever and I was talking to
1:22:25
Charlie's boyfriend, not XDX but this Charlie's boyfriend about
1:22:28
it. And he was like, well.
1:22:30
Troy, come on. Troy.
1:22:33
Oh my God, me love Troy. But Oh my gosh, yes, one of your
1:22:36
girls so good. Oh my God.
1:22:39
Oh my God, he looks so my God. Oh my God.
1:22:41
I was literally like, I want to look like that.
1:22:43
Say yeah. Oh my gaggy.
1:22:45
Yeah. Holy shit.
1:22:46
Oh my God. Holy shit.
1:22:48
He was fishing. One of the hottest women 100%
1:22:51
I've ever seen a face card. He was just saying, and he's
1:22:54
not. I don't right bring it back.
1:22:57
I need to transition just for me 100%.
1:23:00
See here's the thing. When people are like.
1:23:01
Give me the video for. You.
1:23:02
It was. Yeah, it was.
1:23:03
Literally for you. When people are like you're
1:23:07
making other people transit, you're forcing other people to
1:23:09
transition. It's like a whatever.
1:23:11
Who's saying that? What the fuck, conservatives?
1:23:13
I think it's like an agenda. If I did have an agenda choice
1:23:17
of on transitioning, and I know I'm not the only one that is the
1:23:19
agenda, it would be up there. That is the I support the
1:23:22
agenda, I support that agenda. I support the agenda.
1:23:24
Absolutely. Yeah, that's that's the trans
1:23:26
agenda. Yeah, of course upon the trans
1:23:28
of on please. You serve way too much face.
1:23:31
I mean, he still serves face. Serves face.
1:23:33
Oh, he was fishing hard. He looked good.
1:23:35
He looked amazing. It was crazy.
1:23:37
Like I was like why am I turned on?
1:23:39
What? She looks good.
1:23:40
Damn heterosexual era. 100%, literally, that was the agenda.
1:23:44
Yeah. That's that's the conservative
1:23:45
agenda. So honestly, they should think
1:23:47
Troy Sivan. Yeah, they should, yeah.
1:23:50
Troy Sivan turns you straight. You heard?
1:23:53
A sentence that no one's ever said before.
1:23:57
Ever. But yeah, shout out Troy Sivan.
1:23:58
Me love Troy. I was actually listening to him
1:24:00
on the way here. That's so funny.
1:24:01
Oh I love that I was in a new. Neighborhood.
1:24:04
Yeah. He's amazing.
1:24:05
Yeah. Girls.
1:24:07
Wait, fuck. What was it?
1:24:09
One of your girls? Oh my God.
1:24:12
Eatery. Eatery.
1:24:13
Such what were we talking about? What were we talking about?
1:24:16
I don't remember choice of on. I have a story that.
1:24:18
Charlie's boyfriend this. 1 Oh my God.
1:24:21
So basically I had Serrano on the show.
1:24:23
I was telling Charlie's boyfriend.
1:24:24
However, when the comments was calling me stupid and he was
1:24:27
like well to be fair, she's so smart it's going to make anyone
1:24:29
look stupid. And I was like OK T now I'm like
1:24:32
you are so like you're genuinely so smart.
1:24:35
Like what you're saying I'm like I'm like I literally don't even
1:24:38
know what those words mean. Like I feel like you're well
1:24:40
cultured. Maybe they sometimes I say
1:24:42
things and they don't mean anything but it sounds like.
1:24:44
You're using big words. I'm like, damn, I'm out of a
1:24:47
dictionary. Yeah, you're like so smart.
1:24:50
You're dropping little bars too. I'm like, bitch, I can't keep
1:24:53
up, damn it going OK, I have a question for you.
1:24:56
This is a personal question, a personal question for me.
1:24:59
My personal question, basically. But, and you can be completely
1:25:02
honest, but out of the two podcasts that you did in the
1:25:07
shipping container, which one was your favorite?
1:25:09
Which one was my? Favorite.
1:25:10
Which one was your favorite? This.
1:25:13
One right now. Yeah, it was.
1:25:17
Yes, that's what we have. Clip that right.
1:25:19
Clip that right. We I get it.
1:25:22
This was a good one. Yeah, You know what I mean.
1:25:25
I think also I mean my outfit matches the background.
1:25:28
There you go. So the budget from the last time
1:25:31
you here went up. We have plants now.
1:25:33
Yeah, there's foliage. We have chairs with arms now
1:25:37
are. These real, these are fake
1:25:38
plans. They're fake.
1:25:39
We don't have a big budget. I.
1:25:41
Mean I don't know why they would be real to be.
1:25:43
I would feel like it would. There would be bugs.
1:25:45
I told them I was like I want real plans with no bugs and they
1:25:49
were like the budget isn't there babe.
1:25:50
And I said OK damn this would have never happened on
1:25:52
debriefing. But you know, I mean maybe it
1:25:55
would have. I didn't see no plans when I was
1:25:57
watching that. I didn't see, I don't remember
1:25:59
the plans. I don't think they were
1:26:00
anything. You know what?
1:26:00
You win. That's all I wanted to hear.
1:26:03
It's funny because Elijah is literally in the building,
1:26:05
right? Now.
1:26:05
Oh yeah, he is. I did not know he would be here
1:26:06
today. Really.
1:26:08
No, I just showed up and he was like, hey, I don't be like what
1:26:10
the fuck? Why are you here?
1:26:11
I have such funny tea. I told him Thursday last week
1:26:15
you were coming today, right? And then when he saw you, he was
1:26:18
like, what are you doing here? And I was like I.
1:26:21
Was like I doesn't read your text.
1:26:22
And then, like, I verbally told him, I told him in front of him,
1:26:26
I was like, I was like, Vivian's coming next week.
1:26:29
And then he was like, she's so funny.
1:26:31
She's going to bully you. And.
1:26:32
Elijah told me to bully you right before I went on.
1:26:34
Did I was like, you fucking snake?
1:26:37
Yes, he did. And then he he has a brand new.
1:26:40
He was like, why are you here? I didn't know you were coming.
1:26:43
And I was like, I told you she was coming, but I was like, OK,
1:26:47
right. That's my confrontation.
1:26:48
But yeah, welcome back to the shipping.
1:26:50
Team. So what are you saying to him
1:26:52
after this? I don't know.
1:26:54
He scares me. He's going to come from me.
1:26:56
He's going to come from. Me.
1:26:57
So you think he's scary? He's scary.
1:26:59
Spice. Scary.
1:27:00
Threatening. He called me.
1:27:01
You know what's funny? He.
1:27:05
Was. So offended by that, you should
1:27:07
come for him. I you guys.
1:27:09
So he had a rapper named Lil. Delulu, delulu, delulu.
1:27:13
Something like that a couple years ago.
1:27:14
So when I saw him, I was like Lil Delulu.
1:27:17
My team was aghast because they didn't know.
1:27:20
They were like, oh, they were like, you can't say that.
1:27:22
Don't say. I was like, I was like, I swear
1:27:23
to God, it's his. It's his artist name.
1:27:25
So I tried pulling up. He changed it to Elijah Daniel.
1:27:28
And I was like, well, I was like, I swear to God, it was
1:27:32
little. Delulu, I mean.
1:27:33
It was little. Delulu.
1:27:34
Name. Isn't he?
1:27:35
Should have. Captain.
1:27:36
Yeah, you should have, Captain. And I was like, I'm not just
1:27:38
calling him a delulu. What I call him a delulu.
1:27:40
Delulu. But I was not just calling him.
1:27:42
A delulu I. Was saying it.
1:27:44
Was delulu. Anyways, so yeah, I'll call him
1:27:48
a delulu. Yeah, I think that's it, you
1:27:49
know? He told me to come for you.
1:27:52
Oh. My gosh.
1:27:53
But my true intentions are to make you 2 come for each other
1:27:57
and then I'll just watch. Oh my God, I love it.
1:27:59
I love stirring the pot. I love stirring the pot.
1:28:01
OK, it's going to work because I have, I have words to say
1:28:04
because I'm like, girl, the shockery of him seeing you and I
1:28:07
was like, you knew, I knew she was going to be here.
1:28:11
He was setting me up. My he was like, oh, I didn't
1:28:14
know this was happening. I'm like, OK, we'll talk.
1:28:18
Should we have him on the show? Bring He's literally in the
1:28:22
building if. I knew how to get this other one
1:28:24
working. Fuck it, why not.
1:28:27
But anyways, he is in the building.
1:28:28
But but we confirmed right here on the Lulu.
1:28:31
This was your favorite podcast that you've done within the
1:28:33
shipping container? Right, confirmed.
1:28:35
Unless they change the shipping container, but I think it would
1:28:37
be the same shipping container. It's going to be the same
1:28:39
shipping container. It's pretty much the same exact
1:28:41
everything. So I feel like in my mind I
1:28:43
think it would be so charming every two weeks, just like a
1:28:46
mystery squad came in here and switched the shipping
1:28:48
containers. But it's to be a podcast studio
1:28:51
or it's just like a different shipping container.
1:28:53
Maybe it's just a different House of wonders every time.
1:28:55
We have more shipping containers.
1:28:56
I don't know if you've seen them.
1:28:57
Oh, so I was right. There are more shipping
1:28:59
containers in this building. Wow, yeah.
1:29:01
I've cracked the case. You've cracked the case.
1:29:03
They'll just swap those out. Yeah, I I don't know.
1:29:06
The shipping is chic, though. For what I don't know, but they
1:29:09
do. They.
1:29:10
Their methods are a mystery. I'll show you.
1:29:11
Their motives are a mystery. We'll give you a little tour of
1:29:13
the shipping containers because I don't They weren't here the
1:29:15
last time you were here was the The only time you were here was
1:29:18
when you were on the show with. Him.
1:29:19
Yeah, it was right after the fires actually.
1:29:22
That's right. And then he had it.
1:29:23
He canned the show for a while 'cause then you did another
1:29:25
episode of him, but somewhere else.
1:29:28
Right. I did.
1:29:29
Yeah, Jory was on that, yes. That's right.
1:29:32
Research boots. Research boots.
1:29:33
Research down. OK, Vivian, we've had a Kiki.
1:29:38
We've had such a great time, but we close out every show by
1:29:41
manifesting together. Is there anything you want to
1:29:43
speak into existence? Anything you want to manifest
1:29:47
here in delulu? Something I want to manifest.
1:29:51
Delulu mix stars I manifest France winning the World Cup OT
1:29:58
Yeah. We're going to find out when
1:29:59
soon. 19th of July. That's not soon.
1:30:04
France won though. I'm sure by the time this comes
1:30:06
out we'll have it. We'll probably up here.
1:30:07
And then I'm going to look like a fucking genius or an idiot.
1:30:10
But I honestly. Or a psychic.
1:30:11
I mean, France has, they're winning.
1:30:15
You know what I found out my research boots?
1:30:17
That you like languages. I do.
1:30:19
And you like French. Yeah.
1:30:21
Research Boots. But can you speak other
1:30:23
languages? We tea.
1:30:36
Latte, right, right, Right. Exactly.
1:30:41
French too. I probably did something
1:30:43
grammatically incorrect and then all the comments going to be
1:30:45
like she's a. Fucking oh the French are going
1:30:47
to come for you in the. College.
1:30:48
Oh my gosh, yes, she. Guys, we're revisiting what we
1:30:51
said at the beginning of the show.
1:30:52
She's just a girl who's trying. Everyone wears OK here's my one
1:30:55
gripe about Paris. Give it to me.
1:30:56
Everyone wears black all the time.
1:30:58
Lt. Yeah, is it hot there too?
1:30:59
Yeah. Do they have AC?
1:31:01
Not really. Not as much here.
1:31:04
Europe interesting? Is Europe a cold country?
1:31:07
Well, it's not a country. You guys, he they're they're
1:31:12
gonna send me back to school. I'm so.
1:31:13
Oh my God. Can I tell you another funny
1:31:15
thing my publicist said? I throw fits all the time.
1:31:18
And he's like, we need to institutionalized you.
1:31:21
And I'm like, honestly. Well, it might benefit, you
1:31:24
know, like, why not? I can use a break.
1:31:28
Damn. Damn.
1:31:30
OK, wait, I actually forgot to ask you.
1:31:32
We also ask every guest what their most delulu take is.
1:31:36
We talked about delulu. 'S my most delulu take.
1:31:38
What is the most delusional thing you?
1:31:39
Believe in just anything in general.
1:31:41
Could be silly, funny, controversial.
1:31:44
What's the most delusional thing you believe?
1:31:45
Oh. The most delusional thing I
1:31:47
believe. I have a lot of Delulu's.
1:31:52
You go first, so I. Fuck.
1:31:53
I don't damn it. And I just said I have a lot.
1:31:55
Fuck. What's my delulu right now?
1:31:57
Delulu, right now you go first. I don't know.
1:32:05
I say one on every show. Is this something you're
1:32:07
manifesting like for me or just in general?
1:32:09
Oh, no, it's just like something delusional.
1:32:10
You believe in that? I believe in one of mine was.
1:32:12
And I've been corrected everyone, so no one come for me
1:32:14
anymore. Was I didn't believe dinosaurs
1:32:16
are real. I believe they're real now.
1:32:17
No one come for me anymore. OK, that one was so
1:32:20
controversial. What?
1:32:21
I didn't believe dinosaurs were real.
1:32:24
I had never seen them. What girl?
1:32:26
I'd never seen a dinosaur. You've never been to a museum.
1:32:29
Who those could be fake. Girl, I mean, some of them are,
1:32:33
but most of them are not. How would I know that though?
1:32:35
How would I personally know that like?
1:32:37
Reading the plaque. Girl, I could put a plaque on
1:32:40
this coffee cup and be like this is from the Queen of England.
1:32:45
Whatever. OK, do plaques validate things?
1:32:47
Carbon dating does. Another big word for Elmo.
1:32:52
But you guys, when I said that, it was very controversial.
1:32:55
So now I'm like I'm going to be so real.
1:32:58
Y'all bullied me into believing dinosaurs are real because.
1:33:00
Honestly, I mean, you kind of, I mean, yeah, you maybe I think
1:33:03
that was the best. Y'all won.
1:33:05
Dinosaurs are real. Congrats.
1:33:07
What's your favorite dinosaur? Stegalosaurus.
1:33:09
OK, I don't. I don't even know what that is.
1:33:12
It's why it's. Not Stegalosaurus, it's
1:33:13
Stegosaurus. Why did I say Sagalo?
1:33:16
I just added a syllable. Yeah, that one.
1:33:19
Or I like. Oh, I like the Ankylosaurus.
1:33:22
That's what I meant. The one I like, the one.
1:33:24
The tale is like a like a Wrecking Ball.
1:33:26
Morning Star. Oh, that one's cool.
1:33:28
Yeah. Yeah.
1:33:30
The Wrecking Ball tale. Yeah, the little spikes.
1:33:33
I've seen that in the dinosaur lore.
1:33:36
Yeah. Yeah, that's my favorite one,
1:33:38
too. Yeah, exactly.
1:33:39
Yes, as I'm reading for France for the World Cup.
1:33:42
Yes, yes. OK, We're on the same page.
1:33:45
Yeah. What's your delulu take?
1:33:46
My delulu take OK my delulu. What's the craziest thing you
1:33:51
believe in? What's this craziest thing you
1:33:52
think? I feel like I read some delulu
1:33:55
takes on your threads. Oh like what?
1:34:00
I can't think of anything delusional right now.
1:34:01
I feel like I'm very grounded, no?
1:34:04
Or maybe I feel like I feel like saying I'm so grounded is kind
1:34:07
of original. So full of shit because I watch
1:34:09
so many of your pods and then you were like, you were like,
1:34:12
I'm so delusional. That's not.
1:34:13
No, that's correct, though. I want to hear it.
1:34:16
Gay bars are better than straight bar.
1:34:17
No one is. That's not controversial.
1:34:20
That's not. Delusional.
1:34:21
That's not, that's another. Thing I don't think I'm
1:34:23
delusional, I believe I am just correct.
1:34:26
I'm with you on that one. Gay bars are better than St.
1:34:28
bars. I hate St. bars.
1:34:29
I don't even go to St. Bars I have do.
1:34:32
You go to Silver Lake, do you ever go out on?
1:34:34
I went to the flea market one time.
1:34:36
It was cute that. Was cute.
1:34:37
Yeah. You know, the bars and Silver
1:34:38
Lake so straight. You know I wouldn't, right?
1:34:41
And you shouldn't and you shouldn't.
1:34:44
Yeah, right, right, right. I only got, I thought a de Lulu
1:34:46
take. No, it's not.
1:34:47
It's correct. Here's the thing.
1:34:48
It's correct. If I think I'm correct, you're
1:34:50
correct. And I don't know what other
1:34:51
people think of the matter, right.
1:34:53
And have you know if you're being delusional?
1:34:55
You're just correct. Yeah, I'm with you on the gay
1:34:57
bar one. Yeah, true.
1:34:59
T I don't, I don't know. Do you have anything else that
1:35:03
might be delusional? Something else that might be
1:35:04
delusional. Nietzsche Roman is going to win
1:35:08
the Los Angeles mayoral election.
1:35:11
Tea. Tea, I believe.
1:35:14
OK, Yeah. OK, is that is that delusional?
1:35:17
I don't think that's delusional. I think that's pretty fair.
1:35:19
You don't have any Delusional kind of, really.
1:35:21
Yeah, you have. No, you just have takes.
1:35:24
You just have takes, you have strong opinions.
1:35:26
That you're. Sharing on the show, right,
1:35:28
we'll take all of those wait. Did we speak anything to
1:35:30
existence No, we got sidetracked.
1:35:33
We. Speak France winning into
1:35:34
existence. That's right.
1:35:36
I believe in that. OK, I'll clean that too.
1:35:38
If this was like 2 days ago I would have said Canada was going
1:35:40
to make it far in the World Cup. We didn't.
1:35:42
And then we. Are I mean, we it was cute, we
1:35:45
did fine. Yeah.
1:35:47
T Yeah. OK, OK.
1:35:49
What if the World Cup wasn't happening?
1:35:50
What else would you want to manifest?
1:35:52
All my brain, my brain. For the past two weeks it's just
1:35:54
been World Cup, World Cup, early Holland World Cup, World Cup.
1:35:56
So yeah, that's fun, though it's ADHD down.
1:35:59
What are you going to do when it's over?
1:36:01
Find another thing to fixate on. Feel the emptiness of life.
1:36:06
I'm really sad with that. Yeah, well, some.
1:36:12
That's my, that's my routine. Yeah.
1:36:15
Oh, my God. I was like, and you're like,
1:36:17
that's it. Yeah.
1:36:19
OK. We're looking forward to the
1:36:21
World Cup ending then. Well, with that being said,
1:36:24
Vivian, thank you so much for coming to the show.
1:36:25
So much for having me. This was fucking fun.
1:36:27
I had a good time. Wait, we keyed?
1:36:28
Yeah, we keyed. I liked the bearer.
1:36:31
Oh, you can have her. Yay.
1:36:32
I. Like that, you're stripping her.
1:36:34
Oh wait, you know what I'm manifesting.
1:36:35
I'm manifesting also because I love to see members of the
1:36:40
community win. So Elliott Page is in the new
1:36:42
Christopher Nolan movie and I'm manifesting the A.
1:36:45
It's good. AB Maybe Elliott Page could get
1:36:48
an Oscar if he's really, really good in it.
1:36:50
That's so supportive, I don't know anything.
1:36:51
About the movie, I haven't seen it.
1:36:52
I love that Victoria the Musical, but you know.
1:36:55
I love that delusional. We're speaking in that tune.
1:36:58
You know what's funny When you were like, I love seeing members
1:37:00
of the community win. I literally got I like stood up.
1:37:02
I was like, yes, because I thought you were going to be
1:37:03
like, I hope you da da da da. And I was like.
1:37:05
I hope you too. Also get an Oscar.
1:37:09
Sure, whatever. You want a Grammy?
1:37:12
Yeah. Number one album.
1:37:20
Lots of people have number one album.
1:37:22
I mean, not that many. I mean, it's going to be me.
1:37:25
It's going. To be me, you're going to buy
1:37:27
it, you're going to stream it, sure.
1:37:30
You're going to be in the music video for Pinky Down for
1:37:37
Internet Internet non Pioneer. I thought you were.
1:37:40
You almost said Internet boy. And then you fixed that.
1:37:43
No, I did it. Yes, you did.
1:37:45
Got it. I was.
1:37:46
Going to say Internet thumb. Oh my God, you're.
1:37:47
Cancelled. You're cancelled.
1:37:48
I was going to say Internet thumb.
1:37:49
I was going to say this beef. Is so real you're I was.
1:37:52
Going to say Internet not. Pronouns are she her, she, her,
1:37:55
down. She also fine with they, them.
1:37:56
But she, her, she, her, down, she her, down.
1:37:59
They, them, they, them. Yeah.
1:38:00
So you're misgendering me. Except you're not so, but you're
1:38:02
misgendering me. So we're going to have to talk.
1:38:06
About that, talk about it. And you did it at my birthday
1:38:09
dinner. Sucking cock and balls.
1:38:13
My publicist is like Oh my God, please.
1:38:15
And the show now. They're like, oh, OK, so he's
1:38:17
saying political drama, Mitch McConnell, James Charles, we're
1:38:21
just be running everything. James Charles throw in there.
1:38:25
So what do we think about James Charles?
1:38:27
We don't and we shouldn't. No, And we.
1:38:30
Shouldn't I'm so done thinking about him I'm.
1:38:32
Sorry, Tea Affair, it's 2026. Yeah, T yeah.
1:38:37
T he's going to see this too probably.
1:38:39
God is a woman. OK, so thank you to the delulu
1:38:42
besties for listening. This was your help.
1:38:44
He does to the Lulu. Yay.
1:38:45
So now you can go live your true Lulu bestie, Vivian.
1:38:49
Where can the besties find you? The besties can find me on
1:38:51
Instagram or TikTok or Google by name.
1:38:53
That helps you, you know I'm what should I name her?
1:38:58
I'm naming her Patricia. I'm obsessed with the name
1:39:01
Patricia. Whenever I have to name
1:39:02
something, I name it Patricia. How random?
1:39:04
Where's? That coming from, oh, my brain.
1:39:06
And also it's the I don't know, Patricia, there's something so
1:39:09
fun about. Saying it's like a little Patty.
1:39:11
There's something so fun about saying the word Patricia,
1:39:12
Patricia, Patricia. Patricia rolls off the top.
1:39:15
Oh, wait. Oh, my God.
1:39:16
No. I'm doing that thing where I was
1:39:18
referencing something, but I've referenced it so many times that
1:39:20
I forgot it was reference. OK, so you thought it's a vine?
1:39:23
I think. Patricia, I know you're.
1:39:25
Talking about. Is that a vine?
1:39:27
Yes, yes, yes, I just heard it. Yes.
1:39:29
By the gay person, right? If they're on Vine, I'm assuming
1:39:33
so. Yeah, lovingly.
1:39:35
The Patricia with love. Yeah.
1:39:36
OK, we'll find it. We'll find.
1:39:38
It OK, so you. Really.
1:39:39
You really are chronically online?
1:39:40
Well, yeah, I feel like I'm not like, I'm not online.
1:39:44
Yeah, it's, it's actually interesting because it's like
1:39:46
kind of like locking my jaw, but like.
1:39:47
Do you know what's going on in the chronically online sphere
1:39:49
right now? Sorry, I keep no sending the
1:39:51
conversation. Send it.
1:39:52
Tell me what's going on. Do you know Model Land by Tyra
1:39:54
Banks? Yes, yeah, yeah, Tyrone, I feel
1:39:57
like that's what's going on at the chronically online.
1:39:59
Oh my God. Monoland.
1:40:00
Did you see her song? I was gonna say.
1:40:01
The song I've been reposting every video without fucking you
1:40:04
like it's the song. So funny, it's so charming, it
1:40:08
brings such joy into my life and so serious value it for that.
1:40:12
Absolutely. She was so serious about it too.
1:40:16
Was she? I feel like that was a serious
1:40:19
song for her. Like, I don't know, it's Tyra.
1:40:22
Shout out Tyra. You know what?
1:40:24
I don't think anyone can guess Tara Banks true motives at any
1:40:27
time. So you know what?
1:40:29
And good for her, I guess. It might be good for her.
1:40:31
I think we'll be sitting here debating until the end of time.
1:40:33
I feel like she was. I feel like she went into the
1:40:35
studio and said. I want to make history.
1:40:39
Yes, and that's what that was. And that's what that was.
1:40:42
And that's what that was. So everyone can find you,
1:40:44
Vivian, Right? Jenna Wilson.
1:40:46
Period. Vivian is which I mean, good
1:40:49
luck spelling that though, so. You know, it's kind of typing my
1:40:51
name. I was typing it in the runner
1:40:52
show and I was like I've literally just copy and paste.
1:40:54
I've just given up. I've just started telling
1:40:57
people, look up Vivian Wilson. Fair.
1:40:59
I love it, though. I didn't.
1:41:00
I didn't. When I was making it, I was
1:41:02
like, this is, it's cute. I didn't realize it would be so
1:41:05
hard for people to spell, but you know.
1:41:06
But I got it. It's like a play on villainous,
1:41:08
right? Yeah, That's what I thought.
1:41:09
That's what it is. Yes.
1:41:11
I love it. It's really on brand.
1:41:13
Yeah. You give, you know, the chaotic.
1:41:15
Yeah. I love that.
1:41:16
It's good. Yeah.
1:41:17
OK. It's.
1:41:18
How are you pronouncing Vivilinus?
1:41:19
I say vivilinus. Vivilinus.
1:41:20
Vivilinus. Easy.
1:41:21
Yeah. Vivilin.
1:41:22
It's not easy. Just.
1:41:23
Do it however the. Fuck, it's not easy.
1:41:25
Would you ever change it? No, it's your brand I feel like
1:41:29
commit now. Fuck it.
1:41:31
I like it, it's for me. It's for you.
1:41:33
I'm not gonna change that cuz when I found you it was just
1:41:35
searching your name anyways yeah that's where we can just do
1:41:37
that. So that's where.
1:41:39
So that's where we can go right Vivilinus?
1:41:42
Yeah. I was like fuck, I'm so scared
1:41:44
to attempt it right now. I feel like I ate it though
1:41:46
period. And besties, if you love this
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If you do, Vivi and I will go to Weho with you.
1:42:02
Should we go to We'll go to the Abbey with you.
1:42:05
I thought we were strength in numbers.
1:42:10
We will. I I'll go with you.
1:42:14
Not sign anything before. This I will go to the Abbey
1:42:18
because I'm an Abbey ally. I feel like I shouldn't say
1:42:20
that. That's a bad thing to say.
1:42:21
That's such a bad. Reputation, you know.
1:42:23
OK, follow. Yeah, and you'll help us make
1:42:26
history. And that's what this was.
1:42:28
And that's what this was. And that's what this was.
1:42:30
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