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Episode One Hundred Forty Nine: Heckler's Veto · The Death Of Journalism

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Welcome to episode number one hundred and forty nine of the Death of Journalism podcast.
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My name is John Zigler. I'm your host on today's show. University
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campuses around the nation are erupt in anti Israeli protests. The Trump trial seems
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to be failing to meet the media's expectations. Biden does Howard Stern and the
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White House Correspondence dinner, more evidence of the dangers of DEI, and some
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thoughts on the National Football League Draft and the future of the sport of football.
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We begin this episode of the podcast with the latest in the surge in
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protests around the country at university campuses. Like a cancer. It has spread
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from Columbia University in New York City through much of the nation, but mostly
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in the liberal portions of the nation, and mostly still within elite academic institutions,
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or at least allegedly or formerly elite academic institutions. From a meet standpoint,
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one of the key things that you have to look for here is what
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kind of language is the media using to describe what is happening? And this
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is one of the most insidious elements of media bias that there is, and
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we're seeing it in full force when it comes to this story, because the
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media has to make a decision, Okay, how do we refer to the
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protesters. There's a secondary issue of how do we describe the protests themselves,
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whether or not they are mostly peaceful or that's become a buzzword on the right
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and understandably so. And the media refers to something as mostly peaceful. Yeah,
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okay, almost everything is mostly peaceful, but what about the part that's
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not peaceful? But as far as how they are describing the protesters themselves,
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this is a very obvious example of extreme, insidious and sometimes very effective bias
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on the part of the media. Now, what I have seen, especially
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here in southern California where this issue is starting to heat up because of what's
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happened at USC and UCLA, which you're going to get to momentarily, but
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the media here, the liberal media, very liberal media in Los Angeles,
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has been referring to the protesters as pro Palestinian. Pro Palestinian. Now,
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that to me is about the most benign way you could possibly describe these protesters.
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There's a lot of different descriptions that could theoretically work. You could say
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pro Hamas that might actually be more accurate than pro Palestinian. Hamas obviously is
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now thought of as a terrorist organization, and therefore that would be politically charged
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and not convenient to those who are liberal, so they would much rather go
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with pro Palestinian. That's less offensive to the people who are actually doing the
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protesting or those who might be supporting them. You could also describe the protesters
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as anti Israel. Now, this is the phrase that I tend to use
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whenever I am talking about it, either on the podcast or in social media
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posts. I think it's the most accurate. I actually still think that's being
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more than fair to the protesters, because you could, and some people do,
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use the phrase anti semitic. Now, I hesitate to use anti semitic
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because not because I'm naive. I realize that there's no question that what is
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driving at least part of these protesters their motivation, their drive here is at
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least in part anti Semitic. Whether it's overtly anti Semitic, maybe subconsciously anti
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semitic, who knows. But I hesitate to use the phrase anti semitic unless
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it's clear cut, and you know, on an individual basis, you could
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certainly claim that some of these people are in fact anti Semitic based upon their
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statements, But as a group, I hesitate to do that because I don't
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like the idea that any criticism of Israel is inherently anti Semitic. It's one
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of the many compliment complicating factors of this entire issue, which I've discussed before,
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that Judaism is a lot of things. Judaism is a religion, Judaism
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is a culture, Judaism in this particular situation, is a state. And
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so what are you talking about when you're talking about Judaism? And so I
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don't like creating the idea or the precedent that somehow any criticism of Israel,
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real or perceived, or legitimate or illegitimate, is inherently anti Semitic. I
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don't buy that. So to me, the best way to describe what's happening
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here is clearly anti Israel. That's what's happening now. I don't even understand
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exactly what the criticism of Israel even is. Certainly, in the most recent
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weeks this was all sparked, you remember when Israel responded rather mildly to a
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direct attack by Iran. So I don't even understand what is the most recent
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criticism of Israel. Israel was the victim of the October seventh attack last year,
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a terrorist attack of horrendous, horrific proportions. I just don't I don't
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get it, and I don't understand you know how it is that somehow Israel
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has always sparked these protests in the United States and on extremely liberal university campuses.
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To me, there's a perfect storm situation. There's a lot of different
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factors here. Some of it is this has just become the cool thing to
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protest if you're a far left nut job on a university campus. Spring has
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sprung, and these things tend to happen in the spring around graduation time,
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and this has suddenly become the cause celeb I'm sure that at the core there
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are a lot of people that are using this as their opportunity to spew their
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anger towards Israel. Again, some of that, at least in part,
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is motivated by anti Semitism. But the reality here is that it's chaos and
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it's causing a lot of damage and it's not all peaceful. We haven't had
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anybody seriously hurt yet as far as I can tell, so no one has
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been killed as off yet, but that's not even the most important part of
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this to me. This is the inmates overtaking the asylum. This is exposing
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the weaknesses and the underbelly, the very corrupt underbelly of the entire elite academic
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institution. And I think some people are waking up to this now. The
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media is doing their best to try to keep it under wraps. But you
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know, there's one tell tale sign that liberals know that an issue is trouble
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for them, and we've seen this time and time and time again. It's
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become a meme on Twitter. It's that cliched now that whenever the liberal media
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understands that something that is happening is bad for their cause, they describe the
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story in terms of Republicans pouncing or Republicans seizing on that particular issue, instead
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of describing the issue itself and telling people why this is problematic. No,
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the issue becomes Republicans pouncing on it. It's the first sign, you know,
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liberals in the media know there is trouble, and we have seen that
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when it comes to these now almost nationwide campus protests with regard to what I
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refer to as anti Israel protests. Here's the Washington Post headline, which is
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the clear telltale sign that liberals know this is not good for them. Headline,
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Trump GOP sees on campus protests to depict chaos under Biden. Republicans highlight
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images of turmoil, though most of the pro Palestinian demonstrations have been peaceful.
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Put that headline in a museum. In a museum, it reads like a
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parody, no self awareness whatsoever. That's right, Trump and GOP sees on
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campus protests. It's not about what's actually happening. No, it's about Republicans
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seizing to depict chaos under Biden. But then the subheadline, it's like a
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pinball machine of bias. Republicans highlight images of turmoil, turmoil though most of
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the pro Palestinian demonstrations have been peaceful. But the key part of that is
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they know this is bad. They know this looks terrible, They know that
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lives are being impacted, they know that the video does not look good,
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and they also know that this is an election year and it does create the
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image of chaos, that something is wrong. And I think it goes even
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larger than that, because we've had campus protests in this country many times before,
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most prominently in the late nineteen sixties, but that was in response to
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a war that America was directly involved in, and in which the people who
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were protests they could have been sent to go fight in a moment that actually
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made some sense. Could agree or disagree with it, but you could at
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least understand what the motivation was of those who were protesting. This is about
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protesting against, under the best of circumstances, protesting against an American ally where
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they are the victim in a conflict that none of these people who at least
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are you know, they're in America, they don't certainly seem to be in
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any vulnerability to being sent to engage in that particular conflict. And here they
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are being enabled. They're being enabled by the American news media. They're being
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enabled by liberal politicians. They're being enabled by elite academic administrators. They are
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being promoted by the professors, they incredibly woke professors at many of these universities.
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There are reports that they're even being paid, some of these people by
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George Soros linked organizations. And whenever George Soros's name is involved, I always
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get the hebgb's because I never know what is true and what's not. But
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that's been widely reported as well. So I think what we're seeing here on
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display is the utter dysfunction of an institution liberal elite academia when it is overtaken
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by wokeness, because that's really at the heart of this, that the fact
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that this is being allowed to happen is really a symptom and a way of
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exposing just how corrupt, just how dysfunctional an institution can be once wokeness,
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as a cancer, overtakes it. And this is not a situation where there's
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been no damage done. We've already seen, you know, all sorts of
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things happen. I do want to mention that there have been at least some
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repercussions for some of those involved in these protests. A guy by the name
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of Kamamie James, who is the leader of the Anti Israel encampment at Columbia
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University, who said that Zionists deserve to die. No, I would say
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that's anti Semitic. Okay, When you're Kamamie James, the leader of the
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anti Israel encampment, and you say Zionists deserve to die, then that's anti
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semitic. And this was a very prominent person happens to be a black person,
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and they have been apparently thrown out of school, So there's at least
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some level of pushback. If you say that Zionists deserve to die, and
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you do so proudly and publicly, then apparently there's going to be at least
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some ramifications if there's enough media attention surrounding that and the circumstances dictated. And
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that's what happened here. Now, the fact that Kamamie James happens to be
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black, I don't think is irrelevant here, because part of the way that
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wokeness rears its ugly head in this situation is that wokeness has a set of
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rules. They're not written down anywhere apparently, but they have a set of
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rules for dictating how to handle any particular situation, how to treat any particular
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person, how to view which side is right in any set of circumstances,
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And right at the top of that list is what's the general color of the
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skin of those who are involved. That's just the reality. That's the way
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elite academia now looks at this. Oh, we've got a bunch of people
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who are protesting. What's the color of their skin? Well, generally here
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it's pretty dark. Some of these people seem to be actually black, so
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therefore we have to be more careful. It's literally in their DNA. This
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is the way they look at this. I mean, if this was a
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bunch of white people that were doing this kind of stuff, the reaction would
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not be nearly as soft. There's within elite academia, there's no question about
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that. So the color of the skin of those who are protesting matters.
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There's also connected to that the idea of Okay, are these an oppressed people
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or are these a privileged people? So if they're rich and white, I'll
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screw them. We gotta crack down on these protests. Not that rich white
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people ever protest to begin with, but that's another story for another day.
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But if they're seen as oppressed or poor and they've got a certain level of
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pigmentation in their skin, these people must be protected. And that is what's
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driving a lot of why this was allowed to fester and to grow and now
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get to a point where it's out of control and it's dictating major events,
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and it's dictated major events here in Los Angeles, where USC a formally fairly
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conservative school. Wasn't that lo long ago that USC was known as a conservative
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university. Those days are long gone. Has canceled their graduation ceremonies, canceled
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their graduation, which is a massive avad. They expect over sixty sixty thousand
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people I think up to sixty five thousand people to attend the commencement at ceremonies
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at USC, and they've just canceled them. First time ever. They're just
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canceling them. Other than this COVID, but you know, unprecedented situation,
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no commencement as, no convencement ceremony at USC. And the reason why this
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happened, this was a complete cluster farc From the beginning, they had a
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valedictorian who was clearly pro Hamas and very anti Israel and probably anti Semitic.
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How that happened, I have no idea, but there was a controversy over
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the valictorian, the person that was supposed to speak, and then USC made
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this really bonent, had a decision that Okay, we're going to deal with
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this controversy by not allowing the valedictorian to speak, which is the entire job
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of the valedictorian. And then they said, okay, well no one will
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speak that We'll just have an address where no one speaks, which is the
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only thing remotely interesting about a massive commencement ceremony is to have the the you
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know, the either the vallectorian or the commencement address speaker, what have you.
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None of that was going to happen. And and but that didn't stop
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the controversy. It probably only increased the controversy. And then you had these
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protests erupting across the country and they were starting up at USC and the administration
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just panicked and canceled the whole thing, just canceled the whole thing, which
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is part of cancelation Nation, something I talk about uh fairly regularly on this
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podcast, and something I predicted would explode post COVID. And there is absolutely
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no question in my mind that COVID played a role in how this all went
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down in multiple ways. I think the threshold for canceling things like this is
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much lower now, much lower, because we just went through a situation where
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we canceled everything willy nilly for no reason and for no legitimate reason, and
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so now that the precedent has been set, we are desensitized to it.
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The outrage in response to cancelation has already been proven, as we saw for
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two years during COVID. The COVID panic isn't that great, especially among liberals,
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so you can get away with canceling stuff. So there's no question that
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COVID plays a role there. But COVID also played a role in this particular
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situation because this class, this class of twenty twenty four at USC, is
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not going to have any sort of formal graduation ceremony. Well, this class
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four years ago was the class of twenty twenty, and they had their high
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school graduation completely obliterated, even more so than this circumstance, because at least
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you're going to be able to have parties and get togethers and what have you.
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You couldn't even do that in twenty twenty when you were in high school.
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So this class got screwed by the COVID panic in high school. Now
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they're getting screwed in directly by the COVID panic and the precedents that were set,
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and because of the way that woke elite academia operates in these situations,
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just fold, just fold, because out of an abundance of caution. I
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think that phrase was even actually literally used out of an abundance of caution.
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That phrase is going to put that on our tombstone, folks, out of
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an abundance of caution should be put on the tombstone of the United States of
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America. Because you can justify anything, anything by saying, well, it's
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just out of an abundance of caution, because you never know what might happen,
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because some protester might cause a problem. By the way, that used
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to be called Heckler's veto. I mean, I remember being very very specifically
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taught in both high school and in college about the dangers and a liberal I
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went to do pretty liberal institutions, a lot of liberal teachers, even liberals,
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understood this concept of the Heckler's veto and how dangerous that would be.
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The Heckler's veto is you can't cancel something simply because someone is going to protest
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it, because that gives the protester the victory, that gives them exactly what
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they want. And guess what happens. It never ends because the next time
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you want to do something that a protester doesn't like they have been in Bolden.
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They think they can win because they've won before, So you can't give
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the heckler the veto over your event. That's exactly what happened here. And
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I found a video on TikTok of an attractive blonde woman who apparently is a
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senior at USC and she was lamenting this situation where you know, I didn't
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have a high school graduation, now I don't have a college graduation. And
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she's very perplexed and she's not connecting all the dots, but she's clearly upset
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at what has happened to her class. And she's giving no indication that she's
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seeing this as being related to wokeism, and you know what the powers would
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be have done to her generation, and because they've changed all the rules.
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I mean, she's kind of inching in that direction, but she's not seeing
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it. And I took the video and I posted it on Twitter and I
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made some comments about it, and I wrapped up my analysis of a by
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saying, this is the world that liberals want her generation to live in,
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and this is the world they're building for her generation. And if you don't
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see it, I didn't say this on Twitter didn't have enough room. But
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if they don't see it, it's on them this generation, because it could
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not be more clear cut, It could not be more clear cut that that's
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the world liberals want to live in. They want to live in a world
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where you can pay three hundred and fifty thousand dollars for four years of tuition,
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room and board at USC and you don't even get to have a graduation
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ceremony because some anti Israel probably anti Semitic protesters might cause a problem, and
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because we screwed up a controversy involving a Prohomas valedictorian. They don't care about
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you. It's all about signaling virtue and preventing risk. That's all it is,
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any risk whatsoever. So I tweeted that out and I thought this might
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get some traction. I thought people might find it interesting. But I totally
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underestimated the nerve that this hit because as of this taping, it has well
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over nine hundred thousand views. Now with Twitter, you never know what that
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really means. It's more like impressions than his views. But for me,
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that's very rare for me to tweet out anything and to get over nine hundred
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thousand views in just a couple of days. And I think there's relevance to
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that because I think this really did hit a nerve. It exposes what's really
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going on here. It exposes the liberal, woke, progressive agenda and the
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world that they are building for this generation. And I think there's all a
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thirst for people of this generation to finally get it, to understand what is
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happening to them, what has been done to this generation, especially this graduating
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class, and the world that's being created for them in the future. And
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I had a particularly strong connection to this situation because I happened to know some
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parents of USC students. I referenced that I went to a USC football game
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last fall with a friend of mine from high school, Dave Petrucco, who
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is a subscriber to this podcast. He has a son at USC. I
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also went to the same game with Matt Lauer, former NBC Today Show host,
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and Matt has a son who's in the senior class at USC this year.
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And I remember well talking with Matt about what was happening to his son
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four years ago in his high school situation. So I was curious, all
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right, I'm really wonder whether or not this kind of a situation makes a
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mark with Matt and Matt's son, because obviously Matt is a liberal, although
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he's not nearly as liberal as it used to be, especially after what happened
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to him and he saw how liberals treated him and both publicly and privately,
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but he's still, obviously, you know, a charter member member emeritus of
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the liberal mainstream news media. And I don't know the politics of his son,
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but I'm sure he's not a hardcore conservative. So of course I reached
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out to Matt and I said, so, what's the reaction. I sent
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him actually the tweet of the of the female senior at USC that I had
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sent out, and a little bit to my surprise, Matt indicated that he
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and his son. I don't want to speak for Matt, and I'm not
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going to quote him, but there was a very very high level of outrage
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on both their parts, on both their parts. And you know, I'm
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not going to say that Matt Lower has suddenly become a conservative. I've been
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working on him for years, but he sounded like a conservative to me,
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and it sounded like his son was seeing the light about what the hell's really
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going on here. And you know, this is not necessarily a situation that's
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going to change people's permanent political perspective, but it's an important data point.
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It leaves a mark because it impacts people's lives and makes them go, wait
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a minute, what the hell is going on here? What is happening?
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How are we allowing this to occur, especially given the history of this graduating
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class. I mean, how could usc not see that that was part of
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this whole equation? And I've talked about this in my own experience where I've
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I've had meetings with our school principle in our district superintendent where one of the
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main points I try to get across in when we're evaluating situations that occur is
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you guys in academia, And I've said this literally, you don't understand the
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context of this happening just after the COVID panic, because this is a group
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of kids who had their lives destroyed by what we did during COVID. You
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have to put that into the equation like they're much much, much smaller level.
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But I got into it with our middle school principle because my older daughter,
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Grace had her field trip canceled for ridiculous cancelation nation abundance of caution reasons.
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A few weeks ago and I went in. I said, you understand
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that her class has not had a field trip since the first grade, one
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field drip in their entire lives. Grace is in the fifth grade now,
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and I don't think she had fully comprehended that. Well, whether it was
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because of me or whoever, whatever, who knows why. But they did
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reschedule the field trip and it eventually happened. But you shouldn't even have to
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do this. It should be understood. But these academics, they don't.
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They think that the COVID panic, Well, some of them, if you
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press them on, it will go, well, yeah, we really screwed
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that up, but it's not part of their everyday consciousness because frankly, to
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them, it was great. They got a lot of time off now.
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But the administrators will tell you again if you press them, yeah, this
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was a catastrophe and now we've got all sorts of truancy and behavior problems and
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people are way behind academically. But they don't change anything. They don't change
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the way we do the schedule, or it's not an all hands on deck
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situation. But anyway, the point here is that we're still dealing with the
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aftermath and will be for especially with this generation. With how we handled the
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COVID panic and the idea that USC was completely seemingly oblivious to this is mind
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blowing to me. Now Interestingly, the COVID element of what's happening with regard
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to the protests on campus has been raised in a completely different way that I'm
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not sure I agree with. But because you know, the COVID panic and
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the reaction to it is one of my most passionate about topics about which I'm
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most passionate, I want to share it with you. This is from The
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New York Post over the weekend headline COVID shutdowns isolation to blame for pro Palestine
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protests, experts say. The article goes on to read in The New York
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Post, blame it on COVID. Campus protesters royaling colleges across the nation are
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part of a generation sped by the pandemic, who grew up isolated and angered
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by school shutdowns and social distancing, and are desperate to find a connection,
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community and a voice. Experts told the Post the pro Palestinian cause allows discontented
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youth to express quote long withheld rage, said forensic psychiatrist Carol Lieberman. Interesting
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that Lieberman obviously is a Jewish name, so I'm not sure that I don't
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know what the bias here is, but I'm not sure I agree with Carol
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Liberman. It gives them quote an opportunity to identify with the oppressed against the
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oppressors. Now, I found it interesting that this is even a subject.
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But boy, I wish, I wish that this was true. But it's
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really hard for me to believe that the same generation, you know, four
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years ago, three years ag ago, same kids that had no problem with
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insane, totally pointless and counterproductive mask mandates and schools didn't lift a finger,
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didn't lift the finger to protest mask mandates. I mean, that was the
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most ridiculous thing we've ever done in my lifetime in schools. And that's really
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saying something. Didn't say a word about it. That this same generation is
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now going to the mat to protest Israel. What. I just don't think
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that's it. I mean, in fact, I think it almost works.
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You know, I've already stated I think that COVID works in maybe not necessarily
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the opposite way, but in different ways. With regard to the fact that
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obviously this is a generation that suffered four years ago and now, for instance,
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at USC is being forced to suffer again. I actually think that,
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look, couldn't the COVID thing be part of it? Yeah? Sure,
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I mean, there's no question of this gener is scarred. But I think
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there's bigger issues here. I think the entitlement of this generation plays a larger
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role. I also think that what we're seeing with these elite academic institutions is
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the result of admissions bias. I mean and clearly when it comes to hiring
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with regard to professors, this is the ultimate result of the wokeification of elite
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academic institutions. If for years and years you're hiring woke professors based upon progressive
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ideology and DEI and you're also doing your admissions standards, let's be clear,
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it is obvious, obvious in elite academia there is an enormous bias against conservatives,
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enormous both from the standpoint of demic graphics. You know, rich white
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males have basically three strikes against them, and that's generally that in that age
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group, that's where you're going to find your conservatives. So right there,
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you're going to have a much smaller number of people who are nonliberal within your
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school population. But in the opposite direction, with a firmative action and DEI,
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you're going to get a more liberal population within your school. The people
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that go to your school are going to be more liberal. And it's it's
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literally in the DNA now of people who are who are applying to elite academic
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institutions to at least hide that you're a conservative. You have to pretend that
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you're a liberal for fear of being disqualified, because it's so obvious what the
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bias is that I mean, this is just accepted now within the process of
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applying to an elite academic school. So it's not a shock that you're gonna
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get a school population, especially when they are being enabled and manipulated by woke
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professors, that is going to be much more likely to engage or enable or
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look the other way or tacitly support or actual actively participate in this kind of
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activity. And then you have administrators that are super woke and afraid of their
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own shadows and terrified of cracking down on people with pigmentation in their skin.
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So this is how this is allowed to happen. This is the ultimate result
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of the woke of vocation of elite academia. That to me is what's really
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being exposed here. And uh, you know, there's part of me that
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says, you know what, there's a little bit of short and freud here
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where you're like, Okay, you know, these people are reaping what they
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sew, and maybe this isn't all that bad, especially if nobody gets hurt.
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But I feel badly for the seniors at a place like USC. I
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feel badly for the seniors at Columbia now have to go to zoom classes for
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the last few weeks of their entire academic career if they're not going to graduate
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school, and these people paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for this. I
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do hope that some of what will happen here in the backlash is that elite
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academia will further lose some of it shine, and that there are people who
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are rational who will go this is just not worth it. Why would I
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spend this kind of money to have my child or my young adult indoctrinated or
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have events destroyed or ruined because of this woke mentality, this woke mind virus
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that's taking over elite academia. I would like to believe there is some of
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that, but who knows. But this isn't gonna stop in the next day
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or two because a lad academy has no idea how to handle this. This
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is kryptonite to them. They have absolutely no ability to do it. And
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it's happening in the Blue States, in the most liberal academic, allegedly elite
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institutions, and that's not a coincidence. This is the world they want,
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this is the world they're fostering, and it should be seen by everybody as
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a warning that goes way beyond just what's happening on college campuses regarding this either
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