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Budget reform: Whammon most affected! | HBR Talk 363 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three sixty three More
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  Speaker 1: Strong independent women Now is accidental confession. I remember last
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  Speaker 1: week we were talking about how now basically confessed that
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  Speaker 1: those strong independent women rely an awful lot on men's
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  Speaker 1: money and on double standards. That if the Trump administration
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  Speaker 1: gets rid of either the double standards or the money,
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  Speaker 1: women women most affected. Right, women are in big trouble.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna have some more of that today. There's
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit here to look at, more than we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna cover today, but yeah, there's there's quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: And I will start like with looking at that taxation again,
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  Speaker 1: not just because taxation is theft and it pisses me off,
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  Speaker 1: but also because it is kind of one directional. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the band one direction I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about the behavior. So but you know, before we do that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Hannah Wallen here with nonsense annihilator Lauren
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  Speaker 1: Brooks in the personification of perceptivity. Mike Stevenson actually.
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  Speaker 2: Too old to remember one direction. I refuse to remember.
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  Speaker 1: What are you kidding? That's like a kid band.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I know, and I do remember it, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: determined not to. And I'm disappointed in you. Anna that
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  Speaker 3: you even know?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, I can't. I can't get it out of
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  Speaker 1: my head. It's one of those things like earworms, except
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  Speaker 1: that every so often I remember that that exists.
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  Speaker 2: You should aspire to esponge it.
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  Speaker 1: But you have to understand, I'm a gen xer. There's
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  Speaker 1: been a shitload of stuff like that that has coming
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  Speaker 1: gone that it's like, oh God, not another, not another one.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know any of their music, and I'm working
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  Speaker 3: on a sponging their entire name from my vocabulary.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what one direction is. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the Naughties were. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: to me. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: One direction is the street that you're supposed to go
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  Speaker 4: down in only one way, And that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That was it exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to be careful with that too, because like if
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  Speaker 1: you print well, it's probably better now. But back in
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  Speaker 1: the day, speaking of the naughties, when I was a
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  Speaker 1: wedding photographer and I and and doing uh portraits and
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  Speaker 1: stuff in other communities as well. I went to Fort Wayne,
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  Speaker 1: Indiana for a an event that I was photographing. I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember. It was a wedding or a like. I
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  Speaker 1: photographed a few other things, dedications and other ceremonies and
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. But I went there and it might have
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  Speaker 1: even been for an athletic event. I went there to
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  Speaker 1: a location that was unfamiliar to me up until that point,
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  Speaker 1: and so I printed out rather than I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: go shell out for a map, I will use map Quest.
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  Speaker 1: Map Quest had an issue at that time that I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize. It printed out directions sending me the wrong
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  Speaker 1: way down a one way street, and then it actually
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  Speaker 1: had on the directions continuing directions sending me the wrong
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  Speaker 1: way down one way streets. Fort Wayne is a maze
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  Speaker 1: of one way streets. And usually, like when you go
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  Speaker 1: through a city, let's say you're heading north and the
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  Speaker 1: perpendicular streets going east and west, you'll have a one
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  Speaker 1: way street going east, and then a one way street
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  Speaker 1: going west, and then a one way street going east,
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  Speaker 1: and then a one way street going west. You know,
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  Speaker 1: until you get past the one way streets, so that
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  Speaker 1: if you miss your street, you just drive another couple
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  Speaker 1: of blocks and you turn. Not Fort Wayne. Fort Wayne
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  Speaker 1: does this thing where like you have six or seven
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  Speaker 1: in a row going one direction east or west or
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  Speaker 1: north or south, and then then then you finally get
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  Speaker 1: to the street where you can make your turn. And
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  Speaker 1: so if you miss your turn, you go to the
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  Speaker 1: next street, and that's fine. But if you if you
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  Speaker 1: miss the other direction, if you're supposed to be going
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  Speaker 1: the other direction, takes forever to find a street that
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  Speaker 1: lets you go that way, and then you might have
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of one way streets going the wrong direction
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  Speaker 1: for you to get back to where it was such
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  Speaker 1: a pain in the butt. I was lucky I wasn't late.
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  Speaker 2: So glad, I'm glad you filled the heads with this information, because.
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  Speaker 1: Be very careful if you ever have to stay out
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  Speaker 1: of Indiana, actually just don't go there. Michigan too. Ohio
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  Speaker 1: is better. And besides, we all know it's all Ohio anyway.
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  Speaker 1: And I get to say that because I here. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: tonight we're going back to the toxic Sisterhood of the
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  Speaker 1: into the meat of the discussion, the actual thought provoking discussion,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll start provoking the thoughts tonight by pointing out
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they don't pay taxes like they pay taxes,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't pay as much as men, and then
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  Speaker 1: they get a bunch of it back. So just a reminder,
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  Speaker 1: you know, aside from a few women who are working
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  Speaker 1: household breadwinners like Lauren, there's not and I guess I'm
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  Speaker 1: in that category two. But I'm married household bread winner.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not not always the head of household on our taxes,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes i am because my income is higher just
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  Speaker 1: depends on who whether how much overtime I worked in
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  Speaker 1: the last year, Like last year, I worked so much
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  Speaker 1: overtime that my income was higher. That's not what my
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  Speaker 1: husband gets paid more per hour than I am. That
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  Speaker 1: should tell you something that I worked so much over
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  Speaker 1: time that my income was higher. But as I have
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  Speaker 1: highlighted here, unmarried women, it says, face a significantly lower
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  Speaker 1: average federal income tax rate than unmarried men six point
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  Speaker 1: three percent versus ten point nine percent. Now that's on average, right,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking most women don't have the conditions that most
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  Speaker 1: men have, which is the only person that they get
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  Speaker 1: to count as a dependent as themselves, right men, Men
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  Speaker 1: only count themselves as a dependent if they're single. But
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  Speaker 1: there's there's quite a number of single women who have
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  Speaker 1: decided to reproduce with men they were not going to
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  Speaker 1: marry and make a household with, and so they are
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  Speaker 1: counting at least one child as a dependent on their taxes,
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  Speaker 1: and they're eligible for things like the Earned income Tax
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  Speaker 1: Credit and UH and then also a lot of public assistance.
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  Speaker 1: But the Earned income Tax Credit actually reduces the amount
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  Speaker 1: of taxes that you owe, and in some instances can
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  Speaker 1: even if you are a single parent with children plural
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  Speaker 1: in your home. You can end up getting back more
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  Speaker 1: than you paid, So you get back somebody else's taxes
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  Speaker 1: in that situation, and that is generally a women thing,
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  Speaker 1: that is not generally a man thing. So it's it's
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  Speaker 1: like a direct ripoff there, in my opinion, and what
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  Speaker 1: that actually ends up panning out to just this. This
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  Speaker 1: paper was cited I Google when it said this, and
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  Speaker 1: it's AI when it said this. A study found that
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  Speaker 1: unmarried male filers had an average tax liability of five thousand,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty one dollars as compared to two thousand,
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  Speaker 1: six hundred and thirty nine for women. So that's men
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  Speaker 1: having double the liability that women have in taxes. Men
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  Speaker 1: are paying double what women are paying men. And honestly,
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  Speaker 1: the few women who remain childless and then aren't married,
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  Speaker 1: because there's enough women now that when they don't get married,
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  Speaker 1: they are they are not remaining childless, that they're not
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  Speaker 1: having to pay much and they may be getting some back.
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  Speaker 1: So it's sort of it skews the numbers for women
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  Speaker 1: who are single and responsible because those women are probably
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  Speaker 1: paying closer to what men pay now if they do
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  Speaker 1: the work life balance thing that a lot of women do.
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  Speaker 1: They may not be making as much money as their
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  Speaker 1: male counterparts in the same professions, who may be working
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  Speaker 1: different hours in their working then they're going to pay
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  Speaker 1: less taxes as well, because our system penalizes you for
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  Speaker 1: working harder and earning more money. So so just to
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  Speaker 1: start out, that's where with that in mind, you know
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  Speaker 1: that most of the taxes are coming from men. Men
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  Speaker 1: are paying twice as much into the system out of
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  Speaker 1: out of the gate as what women are paying into
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  Speaker 1: the system. Right, And we were looking last week at
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  Speaker 1: things like social Security and you know, all the DEI
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  Speaker 1: things that women sort of pushed for and voted for
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  Speaker 1: over the last several years, that that do increase the
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  Speaker 1: cost of everything because you now have human resources has
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  Speaker 1: to adjudicate that, I guess, administrate that however you want to.
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  Speaker 1: They do seem to treat it like it's court, not
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  Speaker 1: just an administrative duty, although they do frequently seem to
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  Speaker 1: be quite full of duty. But so we looked at,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some of these other previous items and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it turned out to be things like there
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  Speaker 1: was one of them that was COVID money that they
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  Speaker 1: thought should just be indefinitely part of the budget. Now
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  Speaker 1: there were things that directly represented men being taxed to
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  Speaker 1: pay for women's stupid choices, and then there was also
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  Speaker 1: like the Social Security thing. Did we actually read the
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  Speaker 1: article on social Security? I don't think we did. But
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  Speaker 1: what the article basically described is that the overwhelming majority
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  Speaker 1: of Social Security recipients are female, not just in retirement,
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  Speaker 1: where they are the majority in retirement because men die
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  Speaker 1: sooner and women retire sooner. So you have not only
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  Speaker 1: are they're they're receiving longer at both ends. They're they're
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  Speaker 1: basically burning that candle at both ends, which is part
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  Speaker 1: of the reason why the Social Security system is in
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  Speaker 1: dire straits, but mostly because it's a pyramid scheme. But
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  Speaker 1: or you could consider it maybe a Ponzi scheme if
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  Speaker 1: you don't like the term pyramid. They're they're pretty similar
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  Speaker 1: in some ways. But they're also the majority of people
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  Speaker 1: who receive disability payments through Social Security, and there are
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  Speaker 1: more the majority of people to get approved, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it is, you know, like if when you
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  Speaker 1: look at different types of disability, like people who are
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  Speaker 1: receiving disability due to loss of bodily function from an injury.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of those people are men, but they're getting
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  Speaker 1: they're getting workers comp payments and things like that, and
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  Speaker 1: so they're not receiving maybe as much, or they're not
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  Speaker 1: relying on the Social Security disability system, or they might
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  Speaker 1: not be eligible to receive disability because of their worker's company,
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  Speaker 1: depending on how much they get. And then you know
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times men will struggle to not be
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  Speaker 1: disabled even when they are, and they'll have a disability
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  Speaker 1: that would qualify them, but they'll find something they can do.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw this with my uncle. He just had
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  Speaker 1: a he had terrible luck. He had a really bad
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  Speaker 1: injury when I was a little kid, and it was gruesome.
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  Speaker 1: He got his arm caught in a rubber press at
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  Speaker 1: a tire plant or a rubber processing plant, and it
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  Speaker 1: crushed the bone and they should have amputated his arm
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't. And what they did do to try
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  Speaker 1: to save it just sent him on. His body just
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  Speaker 1: didn't like it, I guess, and it sent him on
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  Speaker 1: this cascade of other health problems, and so he ended
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  Speaker 1: up well. Then he also had another piece of bad
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  Speaker 1: luck where doctor left a sponge inside of him after
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  Speaker 1: he got his appendix out. After his appendix, you know,
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  Speaker 1: went to put after the work injury, so he had
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  Speaker 1: one arm that couldn't be used and he had chronic
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  Speaker 1: pain from that. And then he had this injury parrotonitis
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  Speaker 1: that took a little bit from every organ in his gut,
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  Speaker 1: and his entire stomach had to be removed, not like
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  Speaker 1: just the I can't think of the name of the
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  Speaker 1: bariatric surgery where they remove part of it, or they
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  Speaker 1: used the band and they cut off they took his
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  Speaker 1: whole stomach out, no stomach, and they took part of
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  Speaker 1: his small intestine, and then his esophagus was attached directly
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  Speaker 1: to his small intestine, and he had chronic pain from
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  Speaker 1: that too, like every day it felt like all day
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  Speaker 1: like he was being punched in the gut. And he
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  Speaker 1: went through several other deteriorations of health as a result
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  Speaker 1: of that, like his whole diet had to change. He
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  Speaker 1: became a diabetic because of the damage to his pancreas,
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  Speaker 1: and his liver had image like it took a long
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  Speaker 1: time to recover from that. Your liver is one organ
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  Speaker 1: that does regenerate, right, So he went through all that
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  Speaker 1: and they put him on disability, and he ended up
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  Speaker 1: having to reply reapply, I want to say four times
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  Speaker 1: to my memory during his lifetime because he found things
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  Speaker 1: that he thought, you know, I can do that, and
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  Speaker 1: he tried, and there's a limit, you know, but he
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  Speaker 1: just could not stomach no pun intended the idea of
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  Speaker 1: being disabled. It just didn't sit right with him. He
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  Speaker 1: was a very independent man and he went through a
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  Speaker 1: lot of other troubles because of that, because they put
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  Speaker 1: you on pay medicine for stuff like that, and in
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  Speaker 1: the seventies they weren't very good at assisting people in
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  Speaker 1: monitoring their use and protecting themselves from addiction and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. So he struggled. He had all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: struggles that he went through because of that, and that
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  Speaker 1: affected his ability as well. But even facing all of that,
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  Speaker 1: you know his and it was part of his masculinity.
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  Speaker 1: I can't just be disabled, I can't just be helpless.
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  Speaker 1: I can't do that right. And it's something that I
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  Speaker 1: can completely understand because I have a rough time without myself.
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  Speaker 1: But I could if I had to, and I could
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  Speaker 1: do what my doctor told me to and I could
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  Speaker 1: I could deal with it right. My uncle couldn't. He
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  Speaker 1: could not feel like a grown man without a job,
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  Speaker 1: and it never stopped eating at him his whole life,
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  Speaker 1: even when the rest of us could say to him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your situation is unique. There's nothing wrong with
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  Speaker 1: using the system that was put into place specifically for
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  Speaker 1: situations like you. But there's more men out there than
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  Speaker 1: women that follow my uncle's path. I've got to figure
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  Speaker 1: out something I can There must be something I can
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  Speaker 1: do besides relying on other people's kindness, charity, or a
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  Speaker 1: system of taxation that is theft. And to be fair,
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  Speaker 1: he was also a very conservative man, and he might
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  Speaker 1: not have felt that way if he was a Democrat.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so when we look at at Social Security,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at the other end of disability, there's the
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  Speaker 1: mental health end of it, and women are more likely
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  Speaker 1: to get approved when they apply for that. Women are
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  Speaker 1: more likely to consider it a thing to apply for,
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  Speaker 1: they're more likely to get approved, and they're more likely
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  Speaker 1: to stay on it once they get on it instead
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  Speaker 1: of trying to go back to work, trying to find
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  Speaker 1: something they can do.
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  Speaker 3: And then I'm more likely to accept this help when
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  Speaker 3: it's from uh family because because men with.
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  Speaker 2: Or without the existence of a government.
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  Speaker 3: Men tend to devote their time and their efforts to
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  Speaker 3: their family, and so then when the rest of their
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  Speaker 3: family say, now, we're not leaving you behind. We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: we're going to do what we can for you. Those men,
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  Speaker 3: those men tend to accept that help because that's the
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  Speaker 3: that's the kind of help they're willing to accept, because
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  Speaker 3: it's the kind of help they've given.
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  Speaker 2: For their whole lives, or at least for their adult lives.
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  Speaker 3: Men are kind of less willing to accept government help
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  Speaker 3: because it's something they've never given well, they've only ever
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  Speaker 3: given to it and then they have seen a return
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  Speaker 3: on it because because that's how government works, they take
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  Speaker 3: ninety percent of everything you do and they give you back,
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  Speaker 3: so ten percent.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds crucially different from families.
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  Speaker 3: Families will take whatever you give them, they'll and they'll
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  Speaker 3: give it back. They won't skim a bunch of shit
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  Speaker 3: off the top, because it's you know, it's it's it's
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  Speaker 3: not about stealing from people you don't give a shit about.
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  Speaker 3: It's about approving of what the past generation has given
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  Speaker 3: you and thereby giving to the next generation, whether it's
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  Speaker 3: sons and daughters and mothers and fathers or uncles and aunts.
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  Speaker 2: Or grandparents and grandchildren.
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  Speaker 3: Like people are willing to make the effort for people
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  Speaker 3: who are there close to them, but.
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  Speaker 2: When it all gets sunk by the wayside in favor of.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's something I can call the government. That doesn't
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  Speaker 3: make me sound like a labatarian.
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  Speaker 2: You get, you get what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It is. It is a fact. You know, men are
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  Speaker 1: accustomed to being the people supporting the structure, and therefore
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: they don't feel right relying on it and leaning on it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Because you're supposed to be the support. You can't be
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the support and lean on it at the same time.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: You can only be one or the other. Right, Women
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: are used to being the the reason for the structure,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and so they feel okay relying on it. Like that's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: basically and explain it like I'm five or maybe maybe
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: fifteen version of of why men are less likely to
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: try to rely on the government than women are overall,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: especially for things that don't feel like a disability until
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: somebody explains to you what makes it disabling, like if
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it's when it comes to things like schizophrenia, Yeah, you can,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you can readily determine, like somebody can't read because they
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: can't process, you know, and they their their environment doesn't
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: look to them the way it looks to everybody else,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and maybe they can't interact accurately with it. They're disabled,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you like, that's that's a disability, and it's not. There's
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: no shame in that, right. It's harder to see it
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: when it's a level of mood disorder that prevents someone
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: from being able to functionally interact in a workplace, and
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and it's chemically induced, like you have a chemical imbalance
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that causes something like bipolar disorder or severe depression where
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the act of starting a task is damn near impossible
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: for you, and you know, things like that. So it's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you see more women readily accepting, Okay, yeah, this is
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I'm disabled by this, and more men thinking if I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: admit I'm disabled by this, I'm not a man anymore.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: And a lot of times they think that way because
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the women around them don't respect them and don't treat
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: them like a human being if they suffer something like that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why we have a larger
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: number of men committing suicide than we do women, because
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: if they experience a disorder like that that makes it
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: impossible for them to functionally interact with a work environment
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and maybe even with a social environment. Women get help
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and men get criticism. So that's you know, I'm not
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: going to go into the whole article on social security
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: because the bit of information from it that is relevant
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to what we just discussed is like three sentences, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: there's there's actually a whole page that is just other
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: stuff that it's mostly whining because if I remember, I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: was New York Times. But we'll get into the next
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: bit here. They are mad, the National Organization of Gals,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the Sisterhood is mad because the Republican head of the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Republican Party, the Republican elected official in the Executive Office,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: signed the Republicans Continuing Resolution budget that his party wrote. Sorry,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I just had to say it that way, because I mean,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: what the fuck did they expect him to go against
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the Republicans. He's a Republican, He's he ran as a Republican,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: he's the head of the Republican Party. But he's not
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: involved in the creation he signed this Republican initiative. Yes, well,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Wily originated with him.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Well yes, but Hannah, he's also a man O God,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: how dare you?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Who dare how very dare so? The Republican the GOP
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Continuing Resolution budget reducing funding for non defense programs and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: services by thirteen billion dollars UH March twenty five or
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: March fifteen, twenty twenty five. Sorry, And they go on
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to say that it cuts over seven hundred million from
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: rent subsidies for more than thirty two hundred tigholds of
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: low income and working Americans will now face eviction, which
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: we don't know that that's necessarily true that they will
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: now face eviction, but it cuts subsidies. It approved a
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty eight million dollars shortage from what
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: is needed to maintain homeless services across four hundred communities nationally.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And that before you say wait wait, that's actually men. No,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So let me tell you how homeless services work nationally
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: in the United States. If you're not from here, right,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: If you're homeless and you want to say, go to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: a shelter and stay there while you're getting back on
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: your feet, or you're hopeless in your situation and you
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: want to stay there, right, If you are a man,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: they'll serve you only if there are not women in
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: line ahead of you, especially women with children, but even
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: women without children will get prioritized over you. And if
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you are a man with children and they serve you,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you got to talk to children's services because what the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: fuck is a man doing with children? That's the attitude
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that they have. Why are these children with a man?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: But they're homeless? So this is still cutting. This is
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: why the National Organization for Women is upset about it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: This is cutting a service that is primarily dedicated to women.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And if you look at the statistics on homelessness, seventy
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: five percent of homeless people are men, but ninety five
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: percent of unsheltered homeless people are men because shelter space
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: is primarily reserved for women and children, and men are
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: more likely to be able to get in there if
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: they are married to or living with a woman and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: her children and they're the father of those children. Then
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: if they're alone. So most homeless men who are by themselves,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: who are on their own, they just invisibly sleep in
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: an alley somewhere or in a tent, you know, like
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: on the street in California. And if they have any
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: kind of challenge, mental health challenges, addiction challenges, alcoholism, anything
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: like that. You know, they're more likely to be told, well,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: if you want to stay here, you have to agree
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to do this. You know, if it's an addiction challenge,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you have to agree to go to rehab, If it's
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a mental health challenge, you have to agree to get
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: on a treatment program. Because they're treated as a threat,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: David Shanahan points out, reminds me of that old headline
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: saying one and four homeless is a woman and people asking, okay,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: so what are the other three? Right? And that's the answer.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: The other three is The answer to the other three
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: is invisible. The other three are invisible. People will step
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: over them on the sidewalk and then not remember that
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: they passed a homeless guy.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know, Hannah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Did you factor in the seventy two other genders there?
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: That might throw things a little bit, But every one.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Of the seven two genders that has a penis has
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to wait in line for biological women at the door
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of a homeless shelter to get let in first.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: The value of homeless animals seems to be women at
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: the top, men at the bottom, and dogs in the middle, all.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Like people look.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Upon a homeless woman and they say we have to
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: hone this woman. People look upon a homeless man and
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: say we have.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: To hone his dog.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Yep, it sounds like a joke, but it's not.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Even a joke. It's true. People have more empathy for
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: dogs than they have for women, but for men. And
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not I'm not trying to brute
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: force anything, right, I'm just saying, there's a lot.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Of there's a lot of priorities skew with that thing.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, our priorities are are ascued. You know, there's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: there's a couple. It's not that we shouldn't serve women,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it's that we should serve both sexes. And since the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of the christ as men, you know, instead
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: of saying, well, you know, we're gonna prioritize homeless women
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and these men can just go fuck themselves, we ought
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to look at, you know, why is this happening, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: how can we expand the system to help actually solve
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: this problem instead of just sheltering people. And there are
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: other things that we could be doing. If you look
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: at the percentage of homeless who are men. Within that
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: percentage are a number of men who have been told
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: by a judge you should be earning this much, and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna base your child support and your
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: maintenance for your ex wife on, and if you don't
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: pay it, i'm gonna put you in jail, and we're
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: gonna ruin your credit and you're gonna we're gonna take
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: away your driver's license and a bunch of other punishments.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: And when you get we're not going to do anything
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: to help you get back on your feet, because you
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: are a deadbeat dad. You know, even if he's working
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: and he's paying based on what he does earn, and
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: it's on him while that money's being garnished from his
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: checks to hire a lawyer and fight that battle and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: say well, actually I only earn this much and I'm
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: only able to earn this much, and the child support
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and maintenance should only be based on this much. And
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: sometimes a judge can say, well, you used to earn
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: xyz and so you can't earn that much, right, even
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: if the situation has changed, and know he can't. Like
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: there have been men who have been who are disabled,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: who have been made homeless and destitute because because a
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: judge has said, well, before you were disabled. You earned
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars a year, why can't you do that? Now?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: You can't use your disability as an excuse, right, and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and they'll take it out of his Social Security income
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: or out of his workers comp And you get this
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: complete and utter lack of compassion for the humanity of
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the father because the mother can't work hard enough to
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: support herself and her children, not because she's incapable, but
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: because she's incompetent, because she's a woman.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: He should never have to put his penis in her.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: That's what that means. It is totally his fault because
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: he impregnated her, so he's all to blame.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: See, And I've seen that even in cases where like
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: they were married and she cheated and left and then
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the other guy dumped her and she's on her own
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: now and now she's demanding she won't go back, but
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: she wants his wallet and she wants to squeeze blood
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: from a turn up, And the judge is like, well,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: this is still your fault, you know, even though it
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: was her stupid choices. The state steals for men to
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: pay women to make stupid choices. And yeah, there are
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: situations that are the classic situation that people refer to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: as deadbeat dads. Right, and quite frequently they involve women
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: who knew the guy was a dipshit when she fucked him. Right.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: There is a solid, irrefutable cure for the single mother
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: motherhood epidemic in the United States. Teach our girls not
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: to fuck dipshits. That's a really simple lesson. You can
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you can teach it in a five minute conversation. There
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: is even a stupid sermon that goes around different churches
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: about Ruth and her Boaz, which is like one of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the supposed great romances of the Bible. If you're a
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: female Christian that you know, they're like, oh, this is
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: so romantic. She kind of entrapped him and he went, oh,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you don't have to do that, I already love you,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you know, which was like still after she tried to
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: do that, But you know, it is what it is, like,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: we are all aware of this kind of thing, right.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: But they go on and say, you know, yeah, you
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: should be looking for your boas. Don't fall on the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: way for dumb as broke as, you know, and it
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: goes on this whole list of different you know, ending
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: in as because of the ass pun and women don't.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: They make that mistake every single time. They don't vet
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: guys for character. They don't consider the consequences of making
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: themselves vulnerable to the potential for having to rely on
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: somebody that they knew was unreliable when they chose to
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: get involved with him in the first place. Like, it's
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: not a matter of whether he should become reliable because
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: of the situation that you guys created together. It's it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: a matter of you know, predictability, right, if he was
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: going to become reliable, most most guys, you know, they'd
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: be reliable already. And if they're not, you getting pregnant
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: isn't going to change that. And if we teach girls that,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: they will protect themselves from that situation in much larger
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: numbers than they are doing right now. Right. And the
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: thing that's really bad about it is not only is
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: that situation making a few guys homeless more often, it's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: it's the other situation where she wants a divorce, but
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: she wants she wants his everything, about his financial commitment
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to the marriage. She just doesn't want to have to
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: commit anything to him anymore. But you know, when when
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: women fuck dip shits and make babies instead of relying
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: on themselves or going to their family and saying, you know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I made a stupid mistake and I relied on somebody
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: who's unreliable and he's not going to change. Can you
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: help me get myself established? They rely on you and
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: your tax dollars.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: And we're all out here telling we're all out here
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: telling women not to fuck dep shits, and we're all
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: out here telling men not to fuck dip shits.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: But there are.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Sort of different levels of what the average mannequin it
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: as dip shitty about the average woman, and vice versa.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Like men, no matter how you tell them not to
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: fucking dip shit, they don't know what.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: A female dip shit is.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: They're just taught that all women are angels and that
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: there's almost no such thing as a dip shit. Well,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: she's got a body count of two hundred, and she's
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: gotten only fans, she's got a visual body count of.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Like two thousand. Well that's not a dip shit. None
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: of the above counts as a dip shit.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Whereas women are taught, oh, he only owns five figures,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Well he's a dip shit.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you think about it, it's.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Important to teach everyone not to get with a dip shit.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: But it all falls apart when when there are different
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: accounts of exactly what the fucking dip shit is, Like
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: a female dip shit is nothing and a male dip
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: shit is everything.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: When you think about it, we don't even recognize failure
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: to adult in women. If you meet somebody and they're
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: thirty years old and they've never had a job, they
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: still live with their parents. They aren't looking for a job.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: They spend all day online and enjoying some social activity,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: whether it's video games or social media, whatever, it doesn't matter.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: But they don't make any money at it. They're not
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: doing it for a living. They're not necessarily even great
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: at it. They just do it because it's what they
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: want to do, and they don't have a plan in
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the future to support themselves, to become self supporting at all. Right,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: we have a very different attitude in Western society depending
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: on whether that is a man or a woman. If
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it's a man, everybody's like, well, that's that guy's bad news, Like,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: what what is wrong with that guy? That he should
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: have been He should have had a job ten years ago?
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe even fifteen, and by now he should if he's
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: living alone, he should have his own house. Like, why
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: isn't he married, Why isn't he dating anyone? Well, maybe
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: it's because he's, you know, living in mommy and daddy's basement.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Does he have a neck beard? Right?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: But if it's a woman, and we don't necessarily look
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: at it that way, why hasn't some man come along
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and rescued her from this situation? Right? And if if
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: your child came to you and said, I'm gonna get married.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: This is a person I'm going to marry, and that
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: was that person's living arranged. People do not tell their son,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: you know, this chick is never going to be any
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: good for you. She doesn't do anything. But they will
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: say that to their daughter, this guy is you're not
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: going to you know, you're going to be supporting this
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: guy for the rest of your life. They won't say
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that to their son. You're going to be supporting this
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: guy for the rest of your life. Why Because it's expected,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it's expected that he should support her for the rest
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: of his life. It's not expected that she should support
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: him at all, not even be half of the household income. Right,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: if she earns twenty to thirty percent of the household income,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: people act like, oh, my gosh, she's working really hard,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: even if they don't have kids, and even if she's
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: not doing the housework. And if a guy is a
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: high wage earner and his wife doesn't work and is
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: her whole day is just free time whatever she wants
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: to do, Nobody turns around and says, oh, you know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: this woman is just using this guy for his money.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: But if you have it the other way around, well,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: he's a boy toy and he's a jigglow and he's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: just using this girl. If you use the term gold
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: diggers describe a woman in that situation, you're sexist, right,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: But if you use all the various male terms for
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: gold digger and hoe in that situation, well, of course,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: because what man can be satisfied with depending on a
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: woman's income even if his circumstances are such that he
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: cannot depend on his own. I mean, it's no wonder
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: men are more likely to try to become not disabled
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: even when it's it's physically impossible for them to become
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: not disabled. But yeah, homeless services, you know we're we're
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: looking at. And I will say I looked into some
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: of this. These so called budget cuts, aren't they were.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: There was a proposed proposed budget increase by the Biden
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: administration that didn't get adopted by the Trump administration. And
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: then there was a budget increase by the Biden administration
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: that got the kabash put to it by the Trump administration,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: so he basically just went back to pre twenty twenty
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: four budget. On most of that, it's almost entirely just
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: not a huge budget increase. And then some of it
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: is the end of COVID money and some of it
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: is the removal of the EI money. It then goes
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: on and says you know this about jeopardized funding allocations
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: for programs assisting underserved populations such as healthcare work or health,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: workforce training, minority health and women's health, college preparatory programs
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: for low income students. Historically black colleges and universities and
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Hispanic serving institutions. There isn't a college in the United
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: States that says you can't go to school there if
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you are black. There's not a college in the United States,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: a university in the United States that says you can't
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: go there if you are black or Hispanic or a woman.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: We don't need special institutions just for just to segregate
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: away like the black population or the Hispanic population, or
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the female population. So they don't like contaminate the other universities. Okay,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: they can go to school with everybody else. They're just capable,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: uh and and should not be singled out like that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: That's bullshit. But you know, the Democrats have always enjoyed
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: their their segregation. And and then of course the other
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: end of it, there isn't any kind of funding for
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: universities that that exists in the government that is available
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to everybody except historically black serving and Hispanic serving universities.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: So this was the EI money, right. And then then
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: you have the the health workforce training and stuff. Here's
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the way the government handles funding for health force training
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: is that they fund agencies and departments that write rules
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: and regulations and then hand them down to your healthcare
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: employer to inform your healthcare employer that they are obligated
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: to do this new type of training, or include this
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: new thing in the curriculum, or change their existing curriculum
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: to exclude something that they were teaching before and at
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: their expense. There's not so much money being used to
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: help the employers actually do that. And in fact, for
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: things like first aid training and stuff like that. A
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: significant portion of what employers like mine do comes from
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the Red Cross. They rely on the Red Cross, and
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: they're not relying on them where the Red Cross is
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: giving them this stuff for free. They buy it from
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the Red Cross at their own expense. Gutted funding for
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Substance abuse and Mental health services. Let's see if this
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: is one of the ones I actually had open, do
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: do you?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I think this is. I think this is the one
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I was looking at. So I looked at that's SAMSA,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: which is I guess, yeah, the Substance Abuse and Mental
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Health Services Administration what it does. And the Substance Abuse
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and Mental Health Services Administration isn't an like an agency
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that creates like there's not SAMSU clinics that you can
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: walk into that SAMSA funds and runs and does all
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the hiring and human resources and all that. They give
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: grants to outside organizations to, you know, like based on
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: what they do to do these services, right, And so
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I thought, all right, so they run these programs, what
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: percentage of programs overseen by SAMSA are dedicated specifically for women.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: And of course, now Google is very dodgy on this.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: They don't want to answer that question, so it's they'll
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: they start out by saying, well, they recognize the need
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: for specific programs tailored to women's behaviors and health needs,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: but they won't won't say what percentage, right, But they'll
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: go on and say eighty seven percent except women as clients,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: but only forty one percent had specific programs or groups
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: for women, you know, programs for pregnant and postpartum women.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and five, only seventeen percent of treatment
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: facilities offered programs. That's a long time ago for that
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: to be the most recent information, by the way, so
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: they had to go back and look, the AI had
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: to go back to twenty years ago, Like that information
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: is twenty years old. I wonder what the percentage is today.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: But apparently I didn't find any information on that, which
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: means either the complaint no longer exists today or it
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't important enough for anybody to fight for it. But
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: they did recently increase funding for women's health, specifically women's
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: health right, And so I thought all right, that doesn't
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: really tell me how much is, you know, like exclusively
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: for women. So I ask that directly what percentage are
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: dedicated exclusively for women or girls? And it has this
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: whole list, all right. Many treatment programs offer gender specific
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: or gender cender sensitive services for women and girls, and
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: it mentions women and girls in this right, with such
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: as gender matching with counselors, gender specific treatment groups, gender
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: specific treatment content, whatever that means. There are treatment programs
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: that exclusively serve women, target pregnant women or adolescent girls,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: or provide specialized parenting services. Increasing fundings for initiatives specifically
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: aimed at improving women's behavioral health. Right, there are programs
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: like the Women's Addiction Services Leadership Institute. So they don't
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: have Again, they won't say the exact percentage, but it's
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: clear that SAMSU actively supports and funds a range of
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: programs and initiatives designed to address these specific and behavioral
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: health needs of women and girls. Exclusively for women and girls.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, what about exclusively for men? There doesn't
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: seem to be any information on that. They just give
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: this vague statement about how it recognizes the important aspects
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: of gender specific programs, but there isn't anything that says
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: it's specific. There's a resource, one resource that's been published
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: addressing the specific needs of men, but nothing, no programs, no,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: nothing that is exclusive to men. Good sake, Mike, were
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: you gonna jump in.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Having trouble with the mute button? Like you said? And
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: now I have forgotten what I was going to say? Sorry,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: but y'all can probably don't apologize.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: You can probably imagine what I was gonna say. Uh,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: challenge to the chat? What was the doctor about to say?
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Y' all can probably throw in a guess or two.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Best of work.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: It's quite interesting. I would I would have my my
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: guests would have to do with that. You know the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: fact that this is kind of a pattern, isn't it?
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Across all of the various things that we've read, there's
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: always something exclusively for women, and there's always something that's
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: female specific. Women have to have their own little carved
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: out space in any institution or agency or service or
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: goods or anything that are that are female specific, that
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: are for women and men are just supposed to be
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: considered the default. But yeah, it's well specific percentage isn't available.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: It's clear that SAMSA acknowledges the importance of gender specific
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: approaches and supports initiatives focused on behavioral health needs of men.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Invoice except that there's nothing that that the AI could
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: find in reference that actually demonstrated that last bit, right,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: it has it. It goes back to that article that
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't Actually the article wasn't. It didn't show the creation
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: of any program, any specific service, or anything. So the
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: National Organization for Women is mad that we are not
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: funding programs that are largely female specific that exclude men.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Uh like, that's that's that's it. So we look at
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: what is gender specific treatment. It really doesn't. It gives
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit of information, but it's it kind of
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: some of it kind of bothers me.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: For instance, let's see women or men are more likely
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: than women to report or or alcohol use, whereas women
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: are more likely than men to report non medicinal use
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: of prescription opioids. So I happen to have some unfortunate
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: familiarity due to family experiences with that, right, And here's
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: how it works with prescription opioids and women. And actually
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I've had this experience too. You go into a hospital
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: or something with an injury and they don't necessarily believe
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: that you're injured until you start describing high levels of
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: pain with regard to the injury. You can say I
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: heard the bone crack, and they're like, well, but how
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: much pain are you in? You know, like it's you
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: can see it sticking out of my leg. Well, how
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: much does on a scale of one to ten one
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: being or ten B the worst pain you've ever had?
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: How much does this hurt? It hurts to the degree
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: of I'm going to strangle you if you don't give
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: me an X ray.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: How's that eleven D seven?
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Like, and I have a terrible time with the pain scale, guys,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: because like I all go in and I have had
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: extreme levels of pain at both ends in my body.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I had encephalitis when I was twelve from a mosquito bite,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: and I will tell you this, the pressure from that
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: was so painful that if you had come at me
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: with a power drill and said I'll help you relieve
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: some of that pressure. Let me drill a hole in
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: your head right now, I would have said, please do,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: please do right now. I had a spinal tap for
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: that they were testing for meningitis, and I got relief
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: from the spinal tap. It was there was so much pressure.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: You know, the the to do this, they don't have
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: a closed container that a container that is open. But
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: when the do it, you know, your spinal cerebral spinal
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: fluid is not supposed to like go splattering everywhere. It
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: just goes up into the tubes like super long. It's
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: like a yardstick length tube attached to a needle, long
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: enough to get in between the bones of your spine.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I know it's probably making some people weak queasy, because
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have that queasiness around needles.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I don't have that because I had allergy shots my
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: whole life. I'm like a pincushion, human pincushion. But when
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: they when they stuck me with that, right, the fluid
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: shot clear across the room and splattered all over the
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: wall like like somebody fired it out of a squirt gun.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: And they had to actually put something over the top
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: so they could collect some of it. And like that
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: was Your brain doesn't hurt, but the nerves outside of
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: your brain, inside of your skull, there are pain sensors
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: there that really sucked. Right, So that's my pain, my
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: ten right, and it makes pain that is normally you know,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: something that would put somebody on the floor, like migraine pain.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: For me, the level of migraine pain that causes you
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: to get like it for ocular migraines, the glow doughnut
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: in one eye or where you're you got so much
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: pressure on your ocular nerve that it's it thinks it
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: sees light where there is no light, usually in the
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: shape of your iris. That that's like a three or
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: four for me for head pain maybe, And I don't
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: always notice it until I get to a point where
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I'm nauseous, and you know, I can have a really
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: bad headache and I can be leaning forward with my head,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: you know, to avoid the pressure in the back of
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: my head and still not realize that I have a
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: headache until I get a visual signal or I start
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: throwing up, and so I go into the er. And
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: they're like like scale of one to ten, you know,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: with ten being the worst pain you ever had. Well,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I had encephalitis. It doesn't work, so exclude that when Okay, well,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I also got shocked by a power line, and I've
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I've had and it burned like my whole body, and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I have had third degree burns on my foot and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: those those are incredibly painful. People will tell you that
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: they're not, but they are. So yeah, So what was
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I supposed to do for a pain scale? Right? So
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I go in and I end up having to exaggerate
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: in order to get people to understand that I'm experiencing pain,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: at least from my perspective. You know, I have to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: try to pretend to be normal. But then they don't listen.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Like I went in one time because I had a
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: sinus infection, and you can I'm not going to gross
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: you out with the sinus infection story because it's very
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: similar to the spinal tap story, but with with infecteds
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: not not not something y'all want to hear. But I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: have surgery for it when I was in high school,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: and and like today, there's other things they do, but
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: you know, back in the nineties it was or eighties,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: it was surgery. And so when I have a sinus
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: infection that gets particularly painful, like I go to the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: doctor because there's a danger that it could be the
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: same problem again where the there's openings between your sinuses
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: above and below your eyes and your nose that can
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: get blocked. They can swell shut or they can grow
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: shut because of repeated infections, which if you have allergies
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: and you have a lot of mucus production, that that's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: a risk. And I go in and I'm explaining why
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's an infection and not allergies, because allergies
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: are not usually painful. They itch, and infections are usually
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: don't itch. They're painful. I'm not always, but when it's
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: that dramatic, it's it's probably an infection. And I wanted
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: them to send me home with antibiotics so that the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: infection would go away and I wouldn't have to deal
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: with it anymore. And so I explained about pain briefly,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: and I said, but you can't really give me any
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: pain medicine because I'm allergic to some of it, and
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I have some little issues that happen if
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: you give me that stuff. So what I really just
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: want is something to make the infection go away. And
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I get to the pharmacist, you know, with this this
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: prescription that I get from the hospital, and he hands
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: me back a bottle of specifically the pain medicine that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I'm allergic to, which I wouldn't have been able to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: take it even if I wasn't because I had to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: work with this sinus infection. And so I go back
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and you know, to the to the pharmacists. I'm like,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I can't, I can't take this, you know, when he's like, well,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I can't. You know, there's there's no prescription for an
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: antibiotic here, there's just this. So I just had to
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: have him dispose of the prescription and leave it at that.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And that's what happens. So, oh, you're you're a woman,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: you're in pain, give you pay medicine, right, And if
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I had been a man, they would have treated me
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: like I was drug seeking, even though I very specifically
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: said no painkillers. Do not want painkillers. I want something
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: to make the infection go away. So they don't listen
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: either way. But if you're a woman, they try to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: relieve the symptoms without helping you. And if you're a man,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: they try to criminalize it. Right. But so women end
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: up getting prescribed pain medicine more often for the same conditions.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: And and then at the same time you have the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: other end of it. Two family members, two different results.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: One family member went at the beginning of her pain journey,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: which was really due to biological like genetic conditions. Mostly
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: she went to a pain clinic to get evaluated what's
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the best route to deal with all of this. They
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: made a bunch of recommendations, and the insurance company was like,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: we aren't going to pay for any of that, but
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: you can get all the drugs you want, and she
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: she didn't want drugs, so they, you know, she worked
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: within them to find one that didn't make her loopy,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: didn't make her sleepy, didn't make her jittery, didn't interfere
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: with her ability to do all the many, many things
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: that she did. And for years and years she very
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: very carefully managed that and kept it to a minimum
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: and didn't you know, didn't abuse. But during the nineteen
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: eighties the War on drugs started, and then during the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: late eighties they started going after doctors who had patients
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: who were on pain medicine for the long term. And
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: the evidence that you were a drug dealer as a
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: doctor wasn't patients taking illegal amounts. It was, you know,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: if you had a lot of patients who were taking
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: pain medicine. So if you treated conditions that caused pain
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: and you were prescribing medicines for your patients, you would
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: get tarted, even if it was perfectly normal to expect
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: that these patients would need pain and would be on
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: pain medicine. And so what the doctor started doing was
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: working with pain clinics. Right, well, I'm going to give
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: you the diagnosis, but you have to go to the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: pain you have to go through the pain clinic to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: get your medication. But what they didn't tell people was
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: the minute that you sign up to deal with this
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: pain clinic instead of your physician, you are labeled an addict.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: So large groups of people went through that. If you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: are seeing an oncologist, you're labeled a drug addict. If
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: you are seeing a rheumatologist, you're labeled a drug addict.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: If you're seeing a fibromyalgia specialist, you're labeled the drug addict.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes them easier to criminalize if you know,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: they ever get into some kind of dodgy situation. It's
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: it's disgusting, but that's how the system works, you know.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: And how the government works. Yeah, yeah, yep. And what
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: ends up happening then, Right, Women are more likely to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: go to the doctor for a condition where the main
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: symptom that they need treated is chronic pain, men are
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: more likely to be like, well, my back hurts all
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: the time. Now that sucks, and not not do anything
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: about it, because why are you going to sit in
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: a doctor's office to have your doctor confirm that you're
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: going to have to take time off for work from
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: work that you can't afford to take off to have
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: a surgery that's going to put you down for a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: long time and might not fix the problem in order
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: to address this, or take medications that you know your
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: employer will fire you for taking, or that you can't
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: operate the machine machinery that you use at work if
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: you're taking it, so they don't go they just power
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: through it. And so what you know, they'll say that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: men who are on pain medication are more likely to
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: be addicted because when a man is in severe chronic
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: pain and they do put him on pain medication, they
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: just automatically treat him like an addict. So the other
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: family member severe chronic pain and on pain medicine cannot
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: function due to the pain level unless a medication brings
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: that pain level down, and there's no type of physical
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: therapy to get rid of This type of pain also
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: has a whole spectrum of other health issues, right, kidney
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: issues and you know, diabete and a bunch of other things.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: And so there's the general practitioner who does not prescribe
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: pain medicine. There's the kidney specialist who does not prescribe
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: pain medicine. There's the heart doctor who does not prescribe
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: pain medicine. There's the doctor overseeing the dietitian, not a doctor,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: but there is a physician overseeing the metabolic disorder and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: its relationship to the kidney issues, the heart issues and everything.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Doesn't prescribe pain medicine because you know, he's going through
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: a clinic to make sure that the various things that
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: he has to take don't have a drug interaction and
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: kill him. The doctors at the pain clinic get investigated
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: by a local prosecutor and they find out that this
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: man has an extensive doctor list for the communications to
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: go through back and forth. Only the pain clinic is
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: prescribing pain medicine. There's nobody prescribing any other addictive types
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: of medicines. There's just medicines to regulate a heart condition,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: nutritional supplements and medicines, and specifically limitations on what medicines
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: can be used with this man because of his other
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: health conditions. And they're like, well, this is doctor shopping.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: You're doctor shopping to get more drugs. And they used
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: that as evidence in court and obtained a conviction, forced
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: him into rehab where they said, don't take any more
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: pain medicine than you're prescribed, kept him for less time
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: than he was assigned, and sent him home like no
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: addiction right like this, You know, this was a situation
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: where they didn't actually have evidence of anything, but they
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: criminalized the guy. And because men have that experience so frequently,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: it has to get that bad before they go and
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: seek medication m hm, because you wouln't want to risk
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: of losing your job and your family because your knee
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: hurts or your back hurts. So yeah, addiction services, there's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: there's there's a need. I'm not gonna say there's not.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I have had a family member who experienced addiction. But
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: there's also a significant need for reform, and just throwing
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: money at the problem doesn't fix it. We were at oh,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: the non defense spending. I started looking into beneficiaries about
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: of non defense spending and I found something else interesting,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: And this will probably be the last thing that we
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: look at, because that was that was the other thing
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: that we you know, all this oh non defense spending.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: I really don't want to get into the next page
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: just quite yet. Just this little section here so we
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: can get past that. This is the question that I asked.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Let's see if I can find the question to have
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: there we go, so what percentage of beneficiaries of US
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: federal non defense spending or female versus the percentage that
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: are male? And you know, initially I started looking at
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: the the responses, you know, Medicaid, snap, poverty and welfare
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: and all that, and then I ran across gender budgeting
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: in the US. This article. Let's see if this is
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: the that's not it. This is it. And I just
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: wanted to point something out because this article just drove
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: me nuts. So we're gonna look at that. But I'm
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: gonna point out first this this one which says defense
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: spending is a higher priority for men than women. And
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: it goes through and it says women are more likely
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: to prioritize federalizing education, healthcare, social security. And then number
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: four is improving the infrastructure. They'll complain about, uh, you know,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: not things not being available or things being expensive, but
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: then they don't want that to be a subject of
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: government spending. Environmental profens protection, and then to the fence.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Spending is way down here, and then diplomatic programs are
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: even lower. So we have this this like everything else
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: is more important than making sure that we don't get
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: invaded or attacked. Right, and we get into this article
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: gender budgeting in the US. This is from twenty ten,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: so this is creating new economic priorities for twenty ten
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: and beyond. Written written by Jane Midgley. She was a
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: leading economics economist and gender budgeting expert. There's there's an
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: area of expertise in gender budgeting. By the way, like
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: if you'd ask people in oh, I don't know, eighteen
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: twenty five or ninth team twenty five instead of twenty
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: twenty five, what do you think of gender budgeting as
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: an issue? They probably would have looked like you looked
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: at you like you came from another planet. But that's
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: a thing now commonly known as women's budgets, gender budgets
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: are This is in the articles written by this expert.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Commonly known as women's budgets, gender sensitive budgets, or simply
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: gender budgets, notice though the gender is female, not both sexes.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: And the practice of incorporating women's unique needs into the
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: national budgeting processes and including women at the table in
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: the budget writing process, which means creating female specific or
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: female exclusive budgeting programs or prioritizing women's interests, putting women's
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: interests to the front, and that is gynocentrism gaining traction
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: across the globe, she said. One of the foremost leaders
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: training women in gender response of budgeting says that women
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: different differ in how they budget from men, right. And
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: so then they decided to go into Obama's budget, his
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: proposed budget, and they looked, I've opened these in another
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: tab because they're so small. Right. So here is the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: budget that Obama had for twenty ten, and this big
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: red area here is military and homeland security. They didn't
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: like that. That's first of all. And then we have
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: all these other little pieces of the pie, education, employment, training,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: social services, energy, environment science, agriculture, housing, income security. In
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: some income security is actually social services. Then we have
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: money that's given to cities, villages, counties, states, and stuff
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: for infrastructure, the court system right here, health, so that
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: would be it belongs in this budget. These two things
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: are kind of together because you have the combination of
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: the Medicaid and Medicare systems under health and then you
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: also have all of the government funding of institutions that
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: claim to be doing health related research that we looked at,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: you know, so of that and a lot of it
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: turns now to be, how do we get more you know,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: disabled black Hispanic women with with you know, one specific
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: leg or one one disability or something along those lines
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: involved in this area of medicine that's unrelated to anything
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: that we just described about them international affairs. So all
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: of these are really really small areas in comparison, they're
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: still big. I mean this we're we're talking. This is
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: in billions, okay, so it's not forty forty dollars, it's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: forty billion, and this is seven hundred and seventy nine
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: or seven hundred and fifty seven point nine billion for
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: the military. So she redesigned Obama's budget for him. How
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: very very feminine, and she she really or you designed
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: to help bombers budget for him. Like we'll go back
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: to the original budget. This is the original budget. Right.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: We have a great deal of defense going on here
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: military and homeland security. She cut that in half almost
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: and she cut international affairs, increased a bunch of social
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: programs right, a whole bunch of it goes into health.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: She wants to cut the court system. I'm okay with
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: that part. We can do that. She wants to federalize transportation,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: community and regional development. Does your city get to decide
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: where they're going to put their bus station and how
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: they're going to do their roads, and whether or not
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: they want to have a trolley. We have a trolley
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: here in Dayton, by the way. I don't know how
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: many cities do that, but it's I think it's kind
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: of quaint, but I imagine that it's probably not as
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: cost effective as people think it is. But it's electric.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: By the way it runs there, they're electric lines. It
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: runs on electric lines. It's really interesting. But yeah, instead
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: of the people of say Dateon, Ohio, deciding what the
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: transport transportation needs of Dateon, Ohio might be and funding
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: that through taxes paid to the city of Dayton, she
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: wants the federal government to decide and uh, then the
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: federal government would pay through taxes that are taken from
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: people all over the country. She wants more housing subsidies
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: and uh more probably more green energy. Well, the federals
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: federal spending on energy is not helping necessarily people pay
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: for their energy. It's it's funding, Yeah, making stupid devices
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: that don't necessarily work as well as what we are
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: using now, but fit in with it a green with
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: a green agenda and uh and then she she wants
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: that that sweet, sweet federalized education system that the Left
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: has been using to indoctrinate your children. Like, that's that's
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: her budget, y'all ready for a woman president? Now, how
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: many of you guys want to see the military budget
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: cut in half? And to pay for all this other stuff,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: to pay to pay the rent for people who don't
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: pay their own rent? Did I lose you? Guys?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm having technical issues.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: Can you hear me?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, I can hear you.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: It's it sounds it's.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Well lost you again? You have muted? Hello, there we go.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I said, it sounds almost like pretty close
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: to what we're doing right now.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know the military budget has been cut
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: that much. I know Joe Biden cut it, or at
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: least he was trying to. But yeah, I.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: Mean the point is any kind of any kind of
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: spending that.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: That takes away from our military budget.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: Just makes our country weaker, you know, and I think
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: there's there's a lot of bleeding hearts that you know. Listen,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: I don't like war.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: I don't like the fact.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: That we e didn't have to have.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: This huge military base.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: By the way, a lot of it is funded in
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: you know, certain other countries that I won't name right now, but.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: You know, it.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: Is necessary to an extent. However, when you increase the military, Listen,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: there are more more people who retire, they are dismissed
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: from the from the military, who receive lifetime benefits. Okay,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: that's something that needs to be taking a look at. Yeah,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: but it's not, no, not maintained. I mean, there's some
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: people who there's some people who genuinely actually need their
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: disability benefits, but there are some people who are absolutely
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: taking advantage. And it just seems like the military industrial
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: complex is perfectly fine with bankrolling these people who somehow
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: they have this major disability but are able to go
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: out into the public there and earn six figure salaries.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Doing that.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a lifetime benefit. I mean, there's something
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: that has to be done about that.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean. And and you know.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: As far as military spending goes, it all needs. I
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: wish dose would take a look at that. But we
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: all know why because it it's classic, right, it's the
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: and it's the military industrial complex. It's the same people
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: who said that we all had to get the fucking
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: COVID shot.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know so.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: And at the end of it, right, you have part
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: of the reason that there's needs for things like housing
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: subsidies and foodstamps and so on for uh, married families
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: with children. People don't realize this, but a lot of
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: that is families in the military. Soldiers pay is pretty
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: much non negotiable and unless they really move up in
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: the ranks, not that good. You can't really support a family.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: They get some discounts, like they can go there's a
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: store on base that they can shop at that is
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: cheaper than what you would get at the grocery store.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: Yes, but.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not if you have your your requisite
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: household size of a wife and two point five kids,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: it's it's not sustaining your family.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: And similarly, like there's housing that you can get in
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: the military that is subsidized by the military, but with
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: your pay, the rent can still be higher than you
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: can afford. So if you're in the military and you're
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: married and you know children, your wife is expected to work.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: But there are women who don't yeah or can't yeah,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, just mostly it's don't thought to be
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent fair. Mostly don't. They they don't,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: And so there are a lot of military families that
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: have to rely on the system that is intended for
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: people who are down and out, not because they're not
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: working or you know, they're single moms with kids, but
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: because they're really underpaid.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: M h.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: And that's that's at the grunt end. Yeah, until you
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: until you rise up in the ranks, your pay kind
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: of sucks. And everybody I've known that's in the military
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: that has weighed heavily on their families. There's a lot
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: of guys that I know who are have been soldiers
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: for part of the early part of their marriage and
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: then they got divorced. M right, even if they were
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: only soldiers for one or two tours, they're like maybe
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: four to eight years that they were soldiers and then
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: moved on to something else, got money for schooling and
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: became you know, a doctor and nurse, businessman, whatever, you know,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: went to school uh an auto auto tech, you know,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: anything like that.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: But but by the time they're done with that military service,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: their marriage is in a shambles and they get divorced.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: And a lot of it is because women will not
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: stick it out right, they won't stick out a poverty
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: situation where a better future is on the horizon. After
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: he does the legwork, they'll divorce. And then when that
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: better future comes along, they're like, well, I still want
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: a piece of that. I know, I abandoned the family
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: and the household, or I took your kids and ran,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: but I still want a piece of that better future
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: that you worked for all that time that I bitched
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: it you for working for. And there's a lot of
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: military guys that have been screwed over because of that.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, because they're in the military, their divorce is worse.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: At the other end, you get the brass that are like,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: you know, they retire and they're making huge sums of
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: money and then they're also doing these big speaking tours
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: and so on, or they've retired disabled, so they're retiring
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: early and then they're doing, you know, oh, I'm making
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: this much money from this book, or I'm making this
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: much money from the speaking tour and so on. And
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: if if it's a civilian world and you're disabled, you know,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: aside from like workplace injuries, where you can sort of
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: depending on the injury, a lawsuit against the employer can
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: result in a big settlement. If your injury is pretty
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: severe you lose a limb or you lose an eye
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: or something along those lines, the courts can be fairly sympathetic.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: But if you you know, have a heart attack and
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: you become disabled because of that that disability, if you
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: write a book and you make a million dollars on
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: your book, you're not eligible for that disability anymore because
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: you made a million dollars, so you're covered. The Social
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: Security system doesn't have to cover you anymore. But if
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: you're in the military and you have a heart attack,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: not a thing that's necessarily a reason to consider it
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: work related any more than anybody else's heart attack is
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: work related. And and you write a book and you
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: make a million dollars on your book, you still can
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: collect that disabilities. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm I'm I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: don't think we should. You know, in fact, in the
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: United States, if you lose a limb, you say, you
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: get in a car accident and you lose a limb,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: you lose one. Like you come disabled and you're collecting disability,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: and you write a book and you make a million dollars,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: you're no longer eligible for that disability. I think that's fair. Yeah,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: you have a million dollars, you don't need the disability.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: The disability is there to support you because you can't work, right, I.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: Totally but that that's not what we're doing, you know,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: in the military, No.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 7: No, you know, And like I I'm not going to
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: plug the show, but I watch a financial show where
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 7: it seems like everyone who come on the show who.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: Was in the military, they all receive this you know,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: disabled benefits, right, and somehow, even with that extra four
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: thousand dollars a month, they find themselves in debt, you know.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: And it's disgusting because this money that we are shelf,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: you know, we're just handing out to people is being wasted,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: you know. So you know, I feel a certain way
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: about it. Listen, the people who have you know, major
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: injuries like lost a leg you lost, the limb lost whatever.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: You have PTSD, like serious PTSD, not just oh I
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: can't go into a grocery store because this white guy oppressed.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: That's not you know what I mean that that's bullshit.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: But again, their needs to be a major reform of
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: the system. But what does that look like? You know?
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: And it's terrible. It's terrible because.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: What we are doing, or what has been happening, is people, Listen,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: there's a distinction between the two types of people that
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: go into military service. There are those that go to
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: honestly fight for the country, who you know, believe in
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: what we're doing, and there are those that go into
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: it specifically for the benefits, even if it's just oh,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: well they pay for my college, right, Okay, that's fine, Listen,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: I have no problem with that. But if you go
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: and enlist and barely do the bare minimum and you
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: fall down and you sprain your ankle, and you oh, oh,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: I can't work, I can't be in the military no more,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: and then you then get disability for life for life
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: four thousand dollars I think that's the minimum. Four thousand
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: dollars a month full life. Yeah, it's disgusting.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: It's disgusting.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: But there's another aspect to that too, like our disability
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: system sort of is all or nothing.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you either are you're disabled and that's it, or
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: you're not disabled at all. Yeah, And there's a there's
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: an issue I have with that too, because there are
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: people who become disabled due to circumstantial changes in their
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: life that it's such a hard change that it's not
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: possible to hit the ground running right. But with assistance
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: it's possible to maybe get back up on your feet
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: right and start going again. But if you try on
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: your own without assistance and you fail, you get cut
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: off and you have to reapply and you have to
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: go through the whole rigmarole all over again. And it
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: would be better if our system did what it said
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: it was going to do, because there's supposed to be
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: programs that help, you know, people, especially people with psychological disabilities,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: like where they have a mental health condition that has
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: some crippling symptoms that they're crippling because you didn't have
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: them for the first twenty years of your life and
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: now you do, or they're prippling because it's not compatible
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: with the way our society is designed, Like there's there's
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: actually there's a crippling level that bipolar disorder can hit.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: There's a crippling level even that ADHD can hit. But
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: you can assist people in developing mental tools that will
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: help them do certain types of jobs where they could
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: actually have regular living, They could earn more than they
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: would be able to get from disability, and they wouldn't
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: be draining that disability system. Yeah, but the instead the
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: government's like, well, if you try to work, we're gonna
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: take it all away from you. Yeah, that's it, and
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: that's all you get. There are people like I've worked
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: with people in wheelchairs. My one of my favorite teachers
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: when I was in junior high had pollio as a kid,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: and neither one of her legs worked. One arm had
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: some function and the other arm was mostly functional, so
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: she was in an electric wheelchair. She drove a van
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: with a joystick and instead of you know, petals and
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: everything and buttons, it had buttons and a joystick. Still
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: used the steering wheel though, but so I don't I
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: guess the joystick was for shifting gears instead of a
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: regular gear shift, easier for to handle. Yeah that sounds like, Yeah,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: it was almost like playing a video game.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's what I was gonna say, not to
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: make light, not to make light of her situation, right,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: that sounds kind of cool.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: It was neat that it existed right before it yeah,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: before that was designed. Of course, she couldn't drive, but
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: she went to university before the Americans with Disabilities Act existed.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: She got hired into work before the Americans with Disabilities
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Act existed, and she worked with her employer to be
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: able to get to and from her classroom and everything.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: That was all all she had to do. And she
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: handled the most difficult group of kids outside of kindergartener's.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: She handled seventh graders and eighth graders, so thirteen year
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: olds and fourteen year old Yeah, the ones that that
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: have every excuse in the world for not doing their
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: homework and will We'll try every boundary you have and
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: so on, and she kept discipline in her class with
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: no problem. You know. Yeah, she was a very inspiring teacher.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: And she's one of the reasons why it's hard for
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: me to be like, well I can't do that, yeah anything,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: because like if she could do it, you know, what
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: excuse do I have?
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah? What's stopping you?
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Right? What's stopping me. And so I had a classmate
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: that came to school with muscular dystrophy and it was
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: the type that that was severe and rapidly degenerative. And
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: so he he walked until he was in the second grade,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: and we lost him in the seventh grade. And you know,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: miss mss Thompson, a lot of his friends were went
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: to her to talk because you know, she almost died
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: as a child. She was ten years old when she
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: had polio mm hm. And you know, it's just it's
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: a rough thing to have another child that, you know,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: to watch that child slowly lose his life. Yeah, this kid,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: you just I cannot You would be amazed if you
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: met him. He was such he was so full of
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: life and he was such a remarkable young man that
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: it just, again, you get to know somebody like that,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: you don't have any excuses, your excuses start looking really dumb.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah right. But at the other end of it, you know,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: and there are people at work and they're that under
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: those circumstances is in there are people that live in
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: an area or have a particular set of disabilities that
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: it's just damn impossible that that they're not going to
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: find something that they can do, and it's fair for
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: people to band together to help that individual. It's not
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: fair for it to be done by theft. Yeah, but
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: in any case, you know, like I said, there's all
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: kinds of situations that you can help people overcome, and
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: that should be our primary goal. And that should allow
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: the bigger budgetary function of paying people, you know, so
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: that they can survive when they can't do anything for themselves,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: to be reserved for the cases where that's really true.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: And I work with some people who can't even feed themselves. Yeah,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: they're so disabled, and like that's a different situation.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: We have a super chow no a rumble rant from
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: NOBA Fan twenty one. So I'm curious what might happen
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: if enough men go MiG cow and live minimalist for
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: long enough that taxing men for women's bad decisions is
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: no longer possible for the American government. That's that's kind
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: of part of the goal, right of McCaw is not
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: contributing to a broken system and getting as many men
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: to go along and recognize your you're feeding the demon,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: stop feeding the demon, right And Uh, Unfortunately it's hard
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: to get men to stop feeding the demon, because the
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: demon looks like a model quite frequently on yeah, you know,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: on all the promotional materials. And then when you you
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: go in a job and family services, about half of
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: the demon weighs four hundred pounds and hasn't bathed in
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: three weeks.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 4: Not kidding, I mean, next, the bigger question is how
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: long would it take to equalize? Right?
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, the really rough thing is what would what
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: would politicians do? Because neither party has a valid approach
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: for this, right the Democrats are like, how dare you?
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: We're going to tax you more, We're going to force you,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: We're going to find a way to squeeze that blood
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: out of those turn ups.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, they they don't even have an approach to
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: this to the problem, right.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: Well, no, you can't talk about the problem because you
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: can't say single moms, you know, are are are part
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: of the problem. You can't say that being a single
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: mom by choice someone else's expense is bad. You can't
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: condemn that. So how can you If you can't condemn that,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: you can't criticize that, how can you reform the system
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: that supports it? By the way, guys, being a single
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: mom at somebody else's expense is bad. Always, always, we're
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: gonna get banned from YouTube now, go ahead, though, Lauren.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: I mean it's well worth it. But I mean, hell,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: even even like you know, we we thought Trump was
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: going to end his first time. We thought Trump was
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: leaning towards, you know, recognizing some of these issues, and
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: it just never panned out, you know, So I I
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: have no faith left in our place political system to
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: actually address these issues, you know, I mean, I don't
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: know what it's going to take for it to actually
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: become recognized that oh wait a minute, what we're doing
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: is wrong. You know, we we've taken a step too far.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 4: But you know, it never will because there's too much
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: revenue generated from these situations, right right, Like from the
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: child support system, from family courts, from from all of it,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: from you know, women's shelters, and it's just we have
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: we have loosened the screws to the point where the
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: engine is just falling off the fucking train. And who's
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: going to fix it? Who's going to fix it?
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: You know, they because we're in the process of breaking them. Yeah, Nation,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: we are in the process of breaking men, right, and
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: the Republican Party, the really disappointing thing about the Republican
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Party is where the Democrat Party is just like, uh,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: you know, openly admitting, you know, we're gonna use taxes
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: to squeeze blood from those turn offs. We'll get it somehow, right,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: the Republican Party turns around and says, well, this is
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: men's fault, women making all these stupid choices, draining the
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: system and everything. Why aren't men taking responsibility for their women,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: you know, forgetting the fact that women for two hundred
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: years have said we're we're strong, independent women. We don't
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: need no man. Give me your wallet, but we don't
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: need no men. Right, We're not gonna get married. We're
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: gonna raise our kids by ourselves. We uh, we're gonna
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: have all the sex we want and we don't want
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: any consequences. And if we have a consequence, you have
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: to pay for it. It's your fault. It's not because
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: we made those decisions, right. And so instead of recognizing
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: that paying people to make stupid choices results in more
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: stupid choices and maybe we shouldn't do that, the Republicans
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, well, we're going to punish men when
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: women make stupid choices, and we're going to create a
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: system that takes money from those men and gives it
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: directly to those women. And we're going to incentivize judges
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: to give men impossible tasks and then punish them, and
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: then we're going to wonder why those women aren't doing
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: any better, right, Right, that's part of what they're doing.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: And then the other half is they're talking about paying
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: people to have kids without any kind of.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: Like like you know, like that like that's not what
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: we're already doing, you know what I mean, that's the
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: Solfare system, right, And the problem is we can't even
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: have that honest conversation because there are the bleeding hearts
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: on the left and the right who will say.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 6: Oh, but but but she's just a woman, and and
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 6: you know, it's not her fault that she let herself
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 6: get pregnant. No, she just ended up in this situation
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 6: magically somehow, and well, now we have to save her
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 6: because think of the children, right. But it pisses me
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 6: off because these people go, well, think of the children, Well,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 6: why didn't she think of the fucking children that she
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 6: was about to have when she laid down and took
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: that fucking raw dick.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: It's it's it's it beooves me. I am just so
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 4: fucking perplexed. I don't understand why we I understand why
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: we do this because it's all a money grab. It's
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 4: all a money grab, and that's all it really is
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day. And the people who
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: know and rule these systems, they know that that's what
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: it is. You know, you can't you can't stop men
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: from screwing women, and you know you can't stop women
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: from oops having a baby. So let's just capitalize off
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: of that. You know, you are never going to get
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: a reform of the child supports of family courts or
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: the child support system because it generates too much money
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: for the state.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: It does it does they skim off the top, right, Oh,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: it's for the children, it's for the children. But Uncle
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Sam has to get his cut exactly because he's got
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: to pay the fifty thousand women working in the Child
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: Support and Forcement Agency that are all divorced, that all
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: have ex husbands that were lying, cheating scumbags that you know, right,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: and they were not right, and and John by going
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: after you, right.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: And then you think about the penitentiary system and all
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: the men that get put in jail for not paying
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: their child support, right, because that's necessary. How's he going
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: to pay his child support if he's locked up away
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: from any form of you know, income earning, And and
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: let's let's also pay the police because they have to
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: go and catch this motherfucker.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: It's it's never ending. It's a never ending cycle. It's
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: it's like it's it's an a robaros.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: It's a Rube Goldberg device for uh transferring money from.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: From men men to women.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, where where Uncle Sam's uh staple of hose gets
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: a cut? Yep, they're they're the bottom bitches. Yes, the
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: child out support enforcement agents and the social workers and
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: the child protective system and the workers in the Medicaid
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: and Medicare systems, those are the bottom bitches. Yeah, everybody
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: else you know is going out for that child support money.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, yeah, I mean it's pretty much that
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: kind of a scheme, right, And the Republican solution to this,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: that like the Democrat solution to this, is to openly
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: admit they're going to squeeze the shit out of men,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: especially the men who are the most productive and create
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: the most wealth in the country. They're just going to
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: go after those guys as hard as they possibly can, right,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: and keep them from employing people by taking that money
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: and putting it into government subsidies for women who have
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: decided to be baby machines without you know, and produce
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: future welfare recipients or at least kids that are fifty
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: percent more likely because they don't have a dat at home.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: Or the right or in the system in some way,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 4: shape or form, you.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: Know, because they're if they're boys, they're also fifty percent
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: more likely to be in trouble with a lot at
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: some point in their lives. Right, And the Republican solution
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: is to browbeat men into taking responsibility for these women
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: instead of women into taking responsibility for themselves. Nobody considered
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: the idea that maybe we should stop paying women to
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: make stupid choices and and if you want more children,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: all right, the leading cause of human death in the
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: world is abortion. It's being aborted, Yes, preach. Three out
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: of ten babies conceived in the world today are killed
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: by abortion. Yeah, that is that is just shy of
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: a third, just shy of one and three.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable. Listen, Margaret Singer, she came and she did her job,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: didn't she she is her? And it's it's it's just
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: disgusting because you know, you have these children who are
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: grown up in a mad they like these fucking feminists,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: they love to say, oh, we live in a patriarchy.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: We live in a patriarchy. Meanwhile, seventy five percent of
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: your fucking kids are being raised by single mothers. Okay,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: that sounds like a matriarchy to me. Right, these children
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 4: are growing up, they have no composure, they have no
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: impulse control. They are led by their emotions, which sounds
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: just like a what sounds like a woman, you know,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: And it's it's disgusting to me because everyone will turn
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: around and blame it on the man who isn't there, Well,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 4: why isn't he there? Why isn't he there? You know,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 4: it's probably because he was an eight shit man, right, Well,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 4: your ain't shit pussy attracts it an einight shit man,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: because well you didn't. You didn't choose a father for
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: your child. You chose a sperm donor, and that's what
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: you got. That's what you got. And now you have
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: these women who have they have to try to figure
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: it out and make it work, and it doesn't work
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: when you're alone. Children are created by two people, and
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: it takes two people, the mother and the father, to
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: raise that child.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: Yep, but somehow has the keys to the uterus.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: Only one, only one, only one, But yet we blame
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: the other. And that's the because it's so easy, it's
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: so easy for women to point the finger and say, no,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: it wasn't me, it was hit and what I didn't
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: do it. It wasn't me, I didn't What are we
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: talking about? Nope, nope. And that is how we remove
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: accountability from these bitches, you know what I mean. They
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: just completely remove the responsibility for your own actions. I
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: didn't do it, you did it. I shouldn't have to
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: pay for your fucking failures. You should. But that's not
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: the society that we live. And we live in a
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 4: society where our government says, oh, give us your tired,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: you're poor and you're weak.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and apparently that that was taken too hard,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit too hard.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 4: Too hard, and for too long.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: Honestly, Like the one thing that I noticed about, you know,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: immigrants coming into my neighborhood, they had intact families, even
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: when they were poor, even when they were Yes, you know,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: destitute and working under the table, they still had intact families.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: Because we are on us.
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  Speaker 9: We have they have we have because we have erased
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 9: the idea of the family since eighteen sixty five, we
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 9: have erased the idea of the unity of the family
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 9: as being the.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: Stronghold of a household. Right, that is how you create Listen,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna have kids, then that's the way you
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: should do it. With two people in the household, even
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 4: if both people are not earning incomes. You have one
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: person earning an income, you have the other person raising
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: the children, and you're not sending them out into the streets,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 4: sending them out to todaycare, to strangers because oh I
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: gotta go turn this clock and make this money. You know, it's.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: It's so they used to pay the daycare exactly exactly
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: and pay taxes to.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: The government, right. You know, I don't understand why people
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: haven't woken up to what the fuck it is we're
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: doing here.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: Basically, we it's we're funding a machine. We're not actually
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: helping people in that situation.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 4: It's the path of least uh uh uh sorry, I
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 4: just fucking lost. It's the path of least path of it.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: Come on, help me past.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: But I know I know what you're trying to say too.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: It's not resistance, it's it's the path of path effectiveness. Yes, right, yes,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: you think about it. And under a lot of circumstances
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: in the past. One of the reasons why you had
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: that situation where the man worked and the woman and
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: took care of the kids, it's because after the costs
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: associated with having both parents work while the kids are
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: young and not having one parent at home taking care
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: of the kids, one parent's income would just kind of vanish,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: you know, between the taxes and the expenses. So the
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: only reason that people did that would be if both
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: parents could get insurance health insurance, and maybe they needed
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: more than the average in terms of health insurance. And
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: by the way, health insurance has deteriorated significantly compared to
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: when we were kids.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 4: Well listen, our health in general, it has decreased significantly
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: because we have been I'm sorry, I'm going hard maha
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: on us, but like our food system is disgusting, the
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: PBAs that are in our food system and toys and everything.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: It's it's it's everything that we consume, is not everything,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 4: but most everything that we consume is killing us because
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 4: it's produced on a mass scale, because people, because of
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: because people don't want to do the hard work. You know.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 4: It's it's not incentivized for us to grow our own food.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: Right, it's because of it's actually because of women working. Right. Right,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: Let's say you got you've got a family to feed,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: and uh, you have two options. Right, You're you're working
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: full time, so you're going to spend eight hours out
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: of your twenty four hour cycle working for an employer,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: and and you're going to be tired afterward. Right, and
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: if you do work before you leave for work, then
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: you're going to be tired at work. Yep. Those are
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: those are Those are your options there. And the choices
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: that you have in terms of providing a meal for
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: your family that day involve cooking something from scratch that
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: might take hours and hours of labor to finish.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 4: Right, man, don't tell me I'm from five thirty to
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 4: three hours. It took me to cook one fucking meal
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 4: and it better be good. But I hope he's hearing me.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 4: It better be good.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: Even if you are ye taking Indian food. It's even
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: if you weren't making Indian food. There are a lot
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: of things that take a lot of time, and there
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: are even things that don't take a lot of time.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: Like you have different choices with with food, where you know,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: you maybe you fix a crock pot meal and it
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: takes twenty minutes to prepare it and then it cooks
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: all day and you come home and it's ready. But
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: if you want, you can't have a crock pucking pot
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: meal every night. You want something else. You know, you're
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: looking at your prep time, cutting things up, preparing you know, seasonings, yeah,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: making sure you and you have to have a clean
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: kitchen for that too, because if you're cook in a
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: dirty kitchen, you poison your family.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, no, I laugh at the because I watch
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 4: a lot of recipe videos because I cook a lot.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 4: But you know there's these you know videos that, oh,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 4: it only takes fifteen minutes to cook this meal. Meanwhile,
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 4: it takes like thirty minutes to prepare everything. Right, it
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: must be nice if everything was just chopped up for you. Yeah,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 4: I can throw it in a pan, of course, it
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 4: would only take fifteen minutes. But no, not in reality.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: Rights of the video, they have the ingredients and all
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: those little prep dishes and those are nuts and everything,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: but you have to actually put the ingredients in there
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: for right, So like you have that choice, you can
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: you can do the work, but you're exhausted from work
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: and you don't want to spend the time, and you
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: your kids are gonna whine about it. I didn't want that,
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: I want this, you know whatever, blah blah blah.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 4: Fucking you go to bed hungry.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: You know, or worse. So one kid comes home at
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: this time, and another kid comes home at that time,
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: and your husband comes home at that time and everything.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: Moms are ordering pizzas. They're getting boxed dinners that take
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of You dump it into a bowl and
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: you add some meat and you stir it up and
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: now it's breaded, or you shake.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 4: It or you or you just throw it in a microwave.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: You know, you throw it in a microwave, or you
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: throw it in a pan. Uh. Kids, instead of eating
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: home cooked breakfast, they're pouring their breakfast out of a
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: box and putting on it and put.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 4: It with with a Kellogg's name on the top. Sorry,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 4: I just had to that in there. Ye.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: All of that stuff is a result of the changes
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: in women's shopping habits that are directly related to women
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: working full time more frequently than there before. Yes, everything
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: we can do with our diet. Like we like to
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: blame the food companies, okay, but if nobody.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 4: Bought that shit, they wouldn't exist.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't exist, that's right, because it wouldn't be profitable.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: It's only profitable because women look at those commercials on
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: TV and say, oh my gosh, it only takes fifteen minutes.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: All I have to do is cut open this bag
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: and dump it in a pan and fry it for
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and voo lah. Yeah, and yes, I am
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: actually naming a brand name there, right. And it looks
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: healthy because it's got little vegetables in it, you know,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: it's got meat in it. Just the fact that there's
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of little nasty chemicals in this laus yeah.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And that that the.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: Ingredients list, and it's an essay.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. There's words that you can't
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 4: even fucking pronounce, and it all relates to either salt
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 4: or sugar. And that's where again.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: Those ingredients lists that have more syllables than the entire
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: last rant I wrote for a video on honeymatge radio.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 4: But that that is the thing. It's it's all hidden
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 4: words for salt and sugar, which are all just you know, triggers.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 4: They they they they're addictive. They're addictive, right, and it's
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 4: it's it's just so wrong, like we don't know what
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 4: real food tastes like because everything is so heavily loaded
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 4: with salts and sugars, because it's all prepackaged and preserved.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 4: And what do you think they have to do to
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 4: preserve that? They have to put an extraneous amount of
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 4: fucking salt in it and whatever whatever some kind of
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 4: sixteen syllable word you know that also means salt or sugar.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 4: You know, we have to get back to just eating
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 4: like fruits and fucking vegetables and you know, whole rains
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 4: and and well, oh my god, bullshit.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, I'll give you an example of the
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: bullshit that women fall for. Right. Jello has existed for
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: a very long time before a company started making gelatin
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: and labeling it with that name. We had it in gelatins, right, yes,
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: very long time. Yes. If you look at some of
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: the gelatins that people made back in the fifties, you'll
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: be a little bit grossed out, Okay, a very long time.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they used to they used to put vegetables and
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 4: ship and that.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it looks gross. I don't I don't know
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: what it tasted like, but it looks gross. But in
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: any case, right, it exists, and and it's been a
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: dessert for most of our generation. Like there were still
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: people bringing those savory gelatins to picnics and stuff when
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: I was a little kid, and our generation wouldn't touch
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: that shit pull because it looked funny.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but in any case, like, it's been a dessert.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: It's been it's had sugar in it, and we've known it,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: and it's had food coloring in it, and we've known
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: it for all that time. Right, during the fat free
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: craze of the late nineteen eighties, all of a sudden,
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: without any recipe changes whatsoever, jello became healthy, Yeah, because
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: it was a fat free food, fat free. Oh yeah.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 10: And then then no one, no one, during the gluten
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 10: the anti gluten craze of the nineties, jello suddenly became
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 10: healthy because there was gluten free jello.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, Like, and.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: It hasn't always it's always been fat free. It's always
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: been gluten free, but now suddenly there's a label because women,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: and they'll buy it. They wouldn't buy it before free,
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna buy it.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 4: I'll give you another example. I'll give you another example.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 4: It's just like Thailan, all right, and then they have
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 4: the tail and all that's that's specified. It's back pain.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 4: It's for your back pain. It's the same shit. It's
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 4: just different fucking packaging. And you people are too stupid
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 4: to turn the fucking label around and read it and understand,
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 4: because it's all about simplicity, right we we it's it's
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 4: all about the.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 7: Ease of use.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 4: And oh I'm in pain and I don't want to
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 4: think about it, and my pain is here in my back. Meanwhile,
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 4: you don't want to figure out that. You know, maybe
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 4: you should be walking more. Maybe you should be you know,
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 4: a little bit more active instead of sitting on your
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 4: ass and eating all of these bat and salt and
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 4: loaded foods and processed foods.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's other companies and buyers. Apple.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: You don't even have to cook it. You just put
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: it in a bowl on your counter. And when your
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: kid says, I want a snack. Where's the twinkies? You say, well,
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: we don't have the twinkies, but there's an apple. Yep,
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: Like that's a really easy thing to do it. Maybe
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: maybe you take a minute to cut it up if
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: your kid is young.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 4: But but again, it begins at home. And who is
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 4: at home. It's the who's in charge of the dietary
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 4: decisions in the household. It's the mother, right, because the
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 4: father is the one out making the money to earn
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 4: to put the food on the table. But what do
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 4: we do? No, we just want to sleep. Our lives
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 4: are so our lives are so Oh my god, they're
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 4: just so over whelming, with the dishwasher and the washing
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 4: machine and all of the things that take care of
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 4: the the the fucking vacuum robots. Oh my god, how
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 4: can I actually have time enough to go in the
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 4: kitchen and make an actual meal? Are you kidding me?
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? These people should not be allowed
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 4: to have kids.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: You know, people are gonna think we're unsympathetic. So let
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: me tell you, before electric stoves and before gas ovens
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: were available in your home. Okay, your ancestors at the
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: poor end, at the poor end of the income scale.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 4: They had to go, they had to go chop wood.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well the men chop the wood most of the time.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: Women sometimes, yes, not as efficiently as the men. But
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, all right, if there was a household
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: where both the husband and the wife worked, say they
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: were a mining family, right, everybody in the house worked.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: They had jobs, include the kids, included the kids. And
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: then they still came home and did all the chores.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: But they didn't have an electric mixer and an electric
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: or gas stove that a wood stove. They might put
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: a cooking pot over a fire that they would leave
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: burning in the fireplace on a low level while they
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: were at work and hope that their house didn't burn
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: down when they came home, you know, or maybe one
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: of the kids stayed at home to tend to the
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: fire and make sure the house didn't burn down, and
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: they hope the kid didn't burn out in a house
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: fire before they came home.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 4: Right, But you didn't have.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: This situation of well, we're gonna get takeout, we're gonna
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: go out to eat, We're gonna get a boxed meal
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: that takes a few minutes. It's shake and bake. And
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: I hailed those things didn't exist, okay, like.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 4: They were bailed.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: They didn't do shaking, bake, they did and and and
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: they still managed to do those tasks. They still managed
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: and you know, even on a higher salt diet than
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: we have today. Like back in the pioneer days where
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: they didn't have because they didn't have a refrigerator. They
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: might also not have an ice box because they might
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: not have ice service. Right, they might be lucky if
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: they had a spring house, which was basically a shed
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: built over a spring so that the coolness of the
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: water would provide some degree of refrigeration, and your eggs
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: might last an extra day or two, and your milk
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: might last an extra day or two. Right, And an
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: ice box literally was built box out of wood or
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: metal that they would stick a big ass chunk of
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: ice in it, and then that was what kept food cool,
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: to help preserve it. But if you didn't have a
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: large group of people, they didn't make the ice. Okay,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: they would. They had something called an ice house, which
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: or an ice barn, and in the dead of winter,
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: when their lakes and ponds would freeze, they would cut
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: the ice off of that and store it underground in
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: a building and use it as far into the year
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: as they could until it melted, and they would insulate
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: that building as best they could so that the ice
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: would keep itself cold for as long as it could.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: And then you would get ice in an ice box
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: before there was refrigeration, and they still made it Workkay, yeah,
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: you know you would. You had different services that existed
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: that don't exist today, like milk delivery in glass bottles
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: that would show up at your door, yeah, and and
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: and ice delivery. In fact, a lot of old sketches
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: in comedy sketches and movies and TV shows revolved around
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: ice delivery up big stairways on where the house is
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: on a big hill and the man has to carry
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: this immensely heavy, like more than a foot wide, more
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: than a foot square block of ice, which if you
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: don't think that's heavy, think about when you get a
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: big bag of ice and that's like maybe a third
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: of what he was carrying, right, because that was solid,
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: maybe a quarter of what he was carrying in fact,
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: up those stairs. And it's awkward because you're carrying it
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: with this device that is like a pair of pliers
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: with a pointy end that sticks into the ice and
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: if you if you don't keep pressure on it, the
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: ice is going to slip and fall. Right. So in
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: any case, it was kind of like door dash but
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: for necessities. Yeah, and uh, and it was arranged ahead
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: of time. You ordered ahead of time, and of course
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: before you could get on the phone and order ahead
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: of time, you had when he showed up. You had
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: to anticipate what you were going to need next week,
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: you know, and order then because you couldn't just call
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: him up on the phone and say, oh, I changed
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: what I'm going to order. And it wasn't until refrigeration,
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: like electric refrigeration was invented that that changed. Yeah, and
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: women still, you know, managed to handle all of that.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: So women today that are like that are complaining and
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: women using all of these conveniences and suggesting that, uh,
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: you know, it's the food company's fault for for seducing
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: women into buying all these convenience. No, no, bitch, you're like,
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: you're lazy.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 4: You're fucking lazy. And then we wonder why we have
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 4: in this country an epidemic of obesity. It's because you
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 4: don't get up and fucking do anything. Bitch. Everything is
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 4: handed to you, Everything is you push a button and
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 4: everything is done for you. And we never used to
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 4: live like that. You know.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: It's guess who. Guess who was uh walking out onto
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: the ice of those ponds and doing the manual labor
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: of cutting through it, lifting it, carrying it, trans you know,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: putting it onto the cart, transporting it to the loading
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: it up into the building, and then transporting it to
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: people's homes.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 4: Let me guess. Was it was it Sally? Was it Mary?
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 4: Was it? What was her name? Oh? No, it wasn't.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 8: Bob, John, Dave, Dave Bradley right, Orville, that was a
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 8: much more common name back then.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: I always liked that name. I always thought that was
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: a very dignified sounding name. I love the name Orville.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: But in any case, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't you know,
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: it wasn't Mary. It was Harry Larry yep. Right, Mary
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: might be Harry, but it's not the same.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 4: Jesus Christy, And.
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: I bet she probably system right yep, in the system too. Yeah,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: maybe because they didn't want to. You know, what happens.
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: One of the job risks of collecting ice from the
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: lake was falling into it, falling into the icy water,
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: freezing under the remaining ice yep, and where nobody could
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: come and get you and you die. Like the rescue
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: basically would be another guy has to go in with
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: a rope attached to him so they can pull him
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: out if he can't find you. Yeah, yeah, right, so
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: it was incredibly dangerous, right you had you had this,
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: that was that was one risk. Another risk is if
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: they're cutting it in big chunks and one of those
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: falls on you in the process of getting it from
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 1: the lake to the cart bone. Yes, before antibiotics, when
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: any kind of gash, any kind of infection that gets
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: introduced during that is sepsist mm hmm. Where yeah, they
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: could set it, but you're not getting any pain medication
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: because there that doesn't exist either.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: Same thing with the delivery, and uh yeah, there was
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: there was quite a bit of there's quite a bit
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: of change that took place over the last three centuries
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: that led to women suddenly having the choice to buy
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: ship for their families to eat instead of real food. Yeah,
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: and you know, and and by the way, there's even
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: you know, you can buy frozen vegetables and eat them
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: in they're safe. If the thing that I look for
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: when I go to the grocery store. Is the ones
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: that don't say with butter, sauce, with cheese, sauce, with this,
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: or with that. Yeah, occasionally I'll get those, but I
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: try to avoid it because it doesn't say with butter,
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: right with cheese. It says butter sauce, cheese sauce. And
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: when you look at it, it's not like how you
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: make it at home, where you make a white sauce
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: with butter and flour and and then add you know,
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: more of what you want in it and then put it,
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: put it, put on the food. No, it's got like
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: twenty different ingredients.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, and that you can't pronounce.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: Right all right, and uh so yeah, it's like even
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: that you you gotta watch out for. But the the
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: habit of of just you know, everything is is instant.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: Everything is uh, you put it in a microwave. And
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: it's not the microwaves that are damaging your food. That's
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: not the problem. The problem is what you what was
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: in that box.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 4: Microwaves aren't the best either.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: Taste is good, it's not well.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 4: I'm just I think they are either. No then no,
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 4: I think those are detrimental in different ways. They just
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think micro waves are safe. But you know,
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 4: again going back to your point, it's it's just, you know,
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 4: we never used to have these modern conveniences. It was
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 4: just always you need something to eat, I'm gonna cook
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 4: it for you. Here it is. Yeah, it came hot
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 4: from the stove or the oven, and that was it.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 4: You know. It wasn't just oh it only takes two minutes,
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 4: let me get no.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: Then along came the women of gen X. The first
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: introduction to cooking was an oven with the name easy
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: in it. Yes, a light bulb yes, uh yeah, which
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't have one of those when I was a kid.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: I asked my mom for the one because my neighbor
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: had one. The girl was she was a few years
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: older than I was still in elementary school when she
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: started high school. But she was so nice and sometimes
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: when she was, you know, at at home and not
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: out doing stuff with her friends, she played with me.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: She had this easy bake oven and I just thought
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: it was the coolest thing since slice spread. And I
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: went home and I was like, I want one for Christmas.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: My Mom's like, no, that's that we're gonna do. She
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: started teaching me how to cook yeah, and by the
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: time I was twelve, I could cook a full meal.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 1: My first full meal that I cooked for the family.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 1: You know, my dad sat down and started complimenting my
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: mom and she goes, Hannah made this.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna burst. It was. It was
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: the most one of the most like you build up
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: your kids, you know, want to be proud of their achievements.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 1: But I felt like, you know, I just mom, just
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: told my dad Hannah won the Nobel Peace Prize today. Yeah.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: It was. It was so great. And so I got
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: to use the real oven thereafter, and of course the
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: first taste of that was that moment. But you know,
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: the rest of my childhood I did things like, well,
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: when my brother would have all the guys in the
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: neighborhood over because he had all the Star Wars toys
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: and we had like, you know, thirty or forty toy
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: play guns that were like replica Old West guns and
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and squirt guns and stuff, and so
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: we would we'd get play this America. We had a
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: game we played it was just called Guns. It was
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: like it was like tag where everybody is h but
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: with pretending to shoot people just pointing it and you're yelling, bang,
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: I shot you. You're dead. And then you had to
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: if you got shot, you had to fall down and
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: count to ten because that was and then you were
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: a different you know, you re upped. This was before
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: video games. We invented reupping guys. But then, you know,
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: we we did others. We like squirt guns were you know,
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 1: our whole summer. Like you'd be I'm go to the
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: grocery store, you know, down the street and come back
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: with bags of groceries in my hands, and I'd be
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: walking up the sidewalk to the house and all of
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: a sudden there'd be six boys coming around the corner
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: with squirt guns and get me the groceries in the
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: house really quick, and I'd go get my oozy.
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 4: Caught your slipping, bitch yep?
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yep, And so like you better be packing
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: because you're gonna get squirted. The boys I grew up
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: with were so much fun. But because of that, like
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: you'd have fifteen boys over, like, oh, that's time to
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: make cookies. Yeah, because you know, not only because I
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: enjoyed the cookies, but because the most fun thing in
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: the world would be to pull those out of the oven,
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: put them all on a big platter, and then say
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: just kind of moderate loud enough for them to hear,
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: there's cookies. And then there's this stampede.
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The next the next second you look like you
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: blink and all the cookies are gone gone. But yeah,
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: our our generation, we grew up with this idea of
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: convenience being like the main stay of your life. Everything
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: had to be now, everything had to be easy, everything
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 1: had to be you know, out of the box instead
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: of you know, I'm I'm gonna buy a chicken and
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna scrub it and I'm gonna pull the feathers
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: out that they didn't get when they defeathered it, cause yuck.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: And and then I'm going to cover it in olive
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: oil or duck fat and uh. And I'm going to
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: apply herbs and spices and and you know, cook it
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: for a little while and then take it out, stuff
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: it with garlic and more herbs and stick it back
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: in there and cook it some more and you know,
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: baste it in the process and all.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 7: Nope.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: Now you go to the store and they have this
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: hot tray, hot hot stand sitting out with chickens that
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 1: they rotisserie cooked with spices that you didn't choose, and
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 1: you buy it and it's already cooked, and it costs
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: less than the chickens that you have to go do
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: all that work for. Yeah, and you know, since you
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: just got home from an eight hour shift, you just
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 1: on the way home, you pick up a couple of
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: those and some vegetables that you stick in the microwave
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes and throw in a bowl,
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: and maybe some instant mashed potatoes, and you're feeding your family, right,
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: And it looks the same as what your mom did,
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: but the nutrients aren't there. Yeah, and there are a
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: lot of things in it that are bad. Yeah. And
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 1: it actually, you know, it might even not cost more
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: than it cost your your mom to feed your family,
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: although if you're buying prepackaged stuff sometimes it does. But uh, yeah,
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: all your herbs and spices are complicated by all these
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: other chemicals and uh suddenly you're you're increasing your family's
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: blood pressure. Yeah, Or you know, it's you buy something
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: that's sugar free, because sugar is just the root of
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: all evil, right, and you ignore the little asterisk after
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 1: sugar free where at the bottom of the package it
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: says warning this, this causes cancer, and rats to cause
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 1: cancer and lab rats. So you feed your kids, they're cancer,
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: right and and and there you go. And that's why
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: we're in this situation. But yeah, women, women are going
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: to have to step up if if we want our
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: civilization to survive. And in terms of these things that
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: we've been talking about, all of these different government shortcuts,
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: all of these different government benefits, and all of these
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 1: long march through the institutions, the things that now is
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: mad about, uh, you know, Trump changing stuff that's not
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: being funded anymore, stuff that's not being done anymore than
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: the Dei ship. Right, It's all stuff that it's in
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: existence in the United States and in Europe, in the
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: the first World, parts of South America, in Australia, in
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: the first World, maybe second World, I guess parts of
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 1: Africa because women buy too much bullshit.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Absolutely.
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: I when I worked at a convenience store for six
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 1: years and my boss thought I was this expert salesperson.
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: Sales is really the key. The key to sales is
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 1: really finding what the person needs and figuring out a
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: way that the thing you're trying to sell them meets
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: that need or identifying and need the person didn't know
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: they had, so they'll buy what you're trying to sell them. Now,
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 1: mostly what I sold was sandwich, is't coffee. That's pretty easy.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: People coming in there were looking for food, so it's
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 1: easy to sell that, right. But she was like, oh,
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I could probably put bags of poop on
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: the counter, label them ninety nine cents, and Hanna could
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: sell them. Well, if you label it compost starter and
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 1: you just give a little set of instructions how to
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: compost manure, Yeah, I could sell the shit out of that. Literally,
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 1: women to women. I can sell women bags of bullshit
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: for ninety nine cents. If I called it compost starter,
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 1: they'd be, oh, I should be composting, you know, give
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: them an environmental pitch. Probably about eighty percent of women
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: that came in could be guilt tripped into buying a
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 1: bag of bullshit off of the counter at a convenience
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: store and you know, taking it home. Look, I got
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 1: some compost starter, Like women, we gotta do better, we
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: gotta do better.
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well they do. I'm I'm listening. I'm doing my part, y'all. Bit,
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 4: just gotta get your shit in line. I don't what
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 4: the fuck y'all do. I'm over here spending two and
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 4: a half hours, almost three.
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: I know, we gotta get get to the next thing.
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, sorry, no, no, no, we had a lot
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 8: to talk about it.
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't think that this material would take us this long.
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 1: Never I would have broken it up a little more.
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 1: Neither neither did I.
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's listen, it's it's it's not often
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 4: that you catch me in rare form and right now
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 4: when it comes to this discussion, when it comes to
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 4: this topic, Oh yeah, oh yeah, No, I've got a
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 4: lot of say, a lot to say about this topic
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 4: to these women who think they're boss bitches and they're
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 4: they're leaving their children to you know, strangers to raise
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 4: them because they think.
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: Because there I've run across recently that. But we'll do that.
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: I've still got stuff on the back burner that I
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: really want to do as soon as I could just
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: get my shit together on it, that I haven't forgotten,
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm just trudging through getting I've got some helse
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: things that I've got to deal with, and some of
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: them are genetic. One of them is just by pure chance,
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: could have happened to anybody, but my chances were worse
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 1: because of my genetic issues, so of course it hit me,
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: and one of them is because I got fat. Actually,
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: a bunch of them will get better if I just
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 1: lose like fifty pounds. But in any case, in the
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 1: middle of doing all that, I haven't had the energy
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: or the time with my overtime work to get my
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: ducks in a row to do. When I want to
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: talk about war, I'm not talking king about it from
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: a man's perspective. So my level of research that I
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: have to do and ducks in a row that I
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: have to ensure is a little bit higher. And I
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: don't think it's sexist to say that. I think I'm
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 1: once removed or maybe even twice removed because of my
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: existing disabilities from that whole situation, aside from me worrying
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 1: about the men and boys I know who are young
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 1: enough and old enough to be forced to fight. So
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: that's not something that I can just grab the information,
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: read over it once, and then go back over it
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 1: and present it to you guys. It's something that I'm
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: going to actually have to talk to people who are
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: more knowledgeable than myself, and maybe bring someone on the
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 1: show that you know I'm gonna have to actually contact
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 1: and make arrangements with and all that kind of stuff.
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 1: So it's still in the works. It's still on my
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 1: back burner. I get a free sexism past, says Mangaka
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: ninety two on Rumble. It's because I'm a girl, isn't it.
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 1: But I'm not. I'm a woman. I haven't been a girl.
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 4: In let's let's not count some thirty.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 5: Five years.
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 1: Thirty five years niche, So yeah, yep, what with that?
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: I think that we have completely covered everything I want
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 1: to cover, giving you a little bit of a heads
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 1: up on the things that I want to cover in
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: the future. So I think that's all we really need
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 1: to talk about tonight. Thanks everybody for listening, Thanks to
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 1: my two co hosts. This was a long sausage, and
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 1: thanks very much to Brian for working in the background
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 1: that extra amount of time. Yeah, and we really don't
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 1: have any super chows or super chats. I read the
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: only Rumble rant, So good night, all, good night you
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: you Next Thursday,