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"Do We REALLY Believe in the Second Amendment?" (Monday, January 12, 2026, Hour 2) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: We need to work with the people that have the
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Speaker 4: does Energy Secretary yesterday on Face the Nation. I think
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Speaker 4: you know he was Tim Kaine's warm up act there
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Speaker 4: echoing something that I've said. So there are these groups, now,
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Speaker 4: these renegade government officials in Venezuela who are out there
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Speaker 4: running their own little militias stopping people because they have
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Speaker 4: automatic weapons and they are stopping civilians saying is Ami
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Speaker 4: eddi kata, And I'm going to bring this up and
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Speaker 4: then we are going to open it up to you,
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Speaker 4: because this is a controversial thing that I've said in
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Speaker 4: the past, and people misunderstand this a lot because you
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Speaker 4: know you're busy in the morning. I get it. I
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Speaker 4: understand you know that you only have so many seconds
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Speaker 4: of attention in a cacophony that is morning, trying to
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Speaker 4: either get your day wrapped up or start it off.
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Speaker 4: But I have said this before and I will say
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Speaker 4: it again. When we, as the American government, liberates a country,
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Speaker 4: if we really believe in the Second Amendment, and I
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Speaker 4: challenge a lot of my elected official friends to find
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Speaker 4: out if you really believe in the Bill of Rights?
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Speaker 4: Do you really believe in the Bill of Rights? Because
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Speaker 4: if you did, the minute you liberated a country, you
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Speaker 4: would make sure that every man and woman of legal
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Speaker 4: age had at least one handgun and one rifle, and
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Speaker 4: then you wouldn't have these what are they cortivos running
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Speaker 4: around Venezuela, because the Venezuelans would be able to say,
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Speaker 4: get off my lawn. Go all four tono on them,
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Speaker 4: get off my lawn. I'll get to you at four
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Speaker 4: three four eight a two four to two one seven.
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Speaker 4: Lots of folks ringing in. Hang on the line. We'll
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Speaker 4: get to you. Got all the lines filled up, but
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Speaker 4: first we have to tell you what things happened last night.
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Speaker 4: Iran is a flame as rioters take to the streets
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Speaker 4: there again fighting against the authoritarian regime in Tehran. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 4: well the Ayatola and his ministers have called the President
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Speaker 4: of the United States to set up a meeting to
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Speaker 4: talk about setting up a meeting to help quell this
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Speaker 4: division between the two countries. President Trump said on Sunday
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Speaker 4: plans to speak with Elon Musk about restoring Internet service
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Speaker 4: by using his Starlink service because the Iatola and his
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Speaker 4: minions have blocked out Internet service during these protests. Democratic
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Speaker 4: Congressman has put Secretary of State Rubio on notice. These
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Speaker 4: armed militias in Venezuela that are going around looking for
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Speaker 4: Americans have caused the Department of State to tell Americans
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Speaker 4: to leave Venezuela immediately. These collectivos being run by renegade
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Speaker 4: members of former President Nicholas Duro's government. Ted Leu has
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Speaker 4: Well, they were out there this weekend, weren't they. Now,
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Speaker 17: Was the.
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Speaker 4: And these are the same folks who say Jefferson was this?
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Speaker 14: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Why do you all come from Charlottesville? Just like Jefferson? Did?
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Speaker 4: Let me get to the phones. Here. We are jam
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Speaker 4: packed with folks ringing in. Joel is first up this morning.
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Speaker 4: Bob in Moscow is also on the line. Phones are
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Speaker 4: ringing off the hook. I must have tweaked you somehow, Joel.
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Speaker 4: I'd apologize, but well I don't really feel like it.
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Speaker 4: So how are you doing this morning?
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Speaker 18: I'm okay, I'm gonna tell you something too. This isn't
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Speaker 18: the reason why I'm calm, but I just wanted to
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Speaker 18: mention it. I'm upset the Jaguars loss.
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Speaker 4: That was a rough game. It were you know what
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Speaker 4: until until the until that stinker yesterday with the Patriots
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Speaker 4: smothering the Chargers. It was a weekend full of like
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Speaker 4: last second games, you know, and and to be fair,
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Speaker 4: you know, there were a couple of you know, fourth
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Speaker 4: down calls on Jacksonville's and they they left some points
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Speaker 4: on the board early in the game that would have
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Speaker 4: would have left them with a lot more leeway. I
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Speaker 4: was kind of pulling for him in that game. You know.
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Speaker 4: My flagship station, by the way, for full disclosure, carried
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Speaker 4: all of the game. So it was kind of fun
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Speaker 4: to have him on the radio. Because you want exciting programming.
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Speaker 4: If you're gonna if you're going to interrupt talk programming,
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Speaker 4: you at least want interesting sports, you know, says who
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Speaker 4: had the poor misfortune to be a Commi's affiliate this year,
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Speaker 4: But hopefully, you know, for better luck next year. Anyway,
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Speaker 4: So what's on your mind aside from the the Jaguars.
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Speaker 18: Jaguars, Yeah, I saw Neil Young getting in the picture.
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Speaker 18: You know, he's old man. Take a look at yourself.
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Speaker 18: We can say we're not a lot like you. But
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Speaker 18: you know, the funny thing, you know, the funny thing
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Speaker 18: about all this stuff is how how you're talking about
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Speaker 18: Thomas Jefferson and he was what the starter of the
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Speaker 18: Democratic Party and and yet and yet they're anti Thomas
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Speaker 18: Jefferson and and make all these remarks and it just
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Speaker 18: doesn't make any sense. And yet the Bill of Rights
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Speaker 18: that support their agenda and our agenda in America, you know,
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Speaker 18: our ability to speak because look right now, you go
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Speaker 18: around the world, good Iran, good to places, even good
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Speaker 18: to Venezuela. Right now, I dare anybody to say they're
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Speaker 18: in support of Trump without even having you know, ground
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Speaker 18: forces there, not that we need ground forces, but you
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Speaker 18: know they're going to get their next cut. And you know,
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Speaker 18: it's just it's disgusting. Also where law enforcements being you know,
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Speaker 18: put in the in the spotlight of being evil, yet
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Speaker 18: evil is taking the place of the spotlight.
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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I think you that nails it right on
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Speaker 4: the head because down is up and up is down
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Speaker 4: right now, and this is what they want and part
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Speaker 4: of it is all intentional. If you think this is
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Speaker 4: this is designed. And I was at an event I
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Speaker 4: mentioned it yesterday at the Americans for Prosperity had an
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Speaker 4: America two fifty event, and I had this wonderful fella
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Speaker 4: come and perform as Thomas Jefferson, and he really did
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Speaker 4: a great job doing it. But one of the things,
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Speaker 4: you know, he pointed to was and he brought up
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Speaker 4: Jefferson's point of view on tyranny and how tyranny is
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Speaker 4: almost baked into the cake. And it is something you
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Speaker 4: and I have talked about in an abstract. I think
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Speaker 4: you know that you being the listener, that that maybe
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Speaker 4: with our electronic media, I would like to hope that
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Speaker 4: maybe we can avoid the predictable cycle of liberty to
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Speaker 4: apathy to anarchy to tyranny that we've watched happen at
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Speaker 4: least three or four times in the history of freethinking
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Speaker 4: men in the world, because we can point it out,
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Speaker 4: we can hold a light up to it and say,
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Speaker 4: look at what they're doing. And the anarchy this this
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Speaker 4: up is down, down is up, is designed to make
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Speaker 4: you and me go into a polling place and pull
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Speaker 4: the lever for tyranny, just to make it stop. It's
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Speaker 4: what happened in Moscow when vlad the Invader took over
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Speaker 4: and speaking of which, Bob in Moscow is hanging on
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Speaker 4: the line here, so I gotta be carefully you to
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Speaker 4: sit there, and you know he'll he'll get mad at
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Speaker 4: me for pointing out that. But this is what Putin
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Speaker 4: rose to power because the Russian government was the was
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Speaker 4: nonexistent after the fall of the Soviet Union. It really
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Speaker 4: was the wild wild West. If you had something, you
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Speaker 4: could charge whatever you wanted for it. And there were
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Speaker 4: people saying, please just bring the Soviet Union back, so
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Speaker 4: I know how to live because the the anarchy was
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Speaker 4: was cacophonous, and that's how Putin rose to power.
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Speaker 18: I watched Mark Warnery yesterday, Senator Warren on on Fox,
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Speaker 18: and this is the guy that made his money off
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Speaker 18: of Oh he's worth like two hundred and twenty four
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Speaker 18: million dollars and myself on company. Yeah, you know, And
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Speaker 18: and yet he wants to quell communications. Oh sure, it's
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Speaker 18: just it's just baffling.
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Speaker 4: Right. Meanwhile, meanwhile we're trying to get communications into Tehran
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Speaker 4: and and they're trying. They're standing up on beside the
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Speaker 4: Ayatola because he's the devil. We know. Let me find
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Speaker 4: out what Bob's got for us. Joel, Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 4: Thanks Joe. Bob in Moscow is on with us this morning.
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Speaker 4: Good morning, Bob. How are you doing, sir?
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Speaker 17: Doing good?
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Speaker 19: So what is the difference between the soldiers garnering up
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Speaker 19: people in Venezuela versus is the Ukrainian army using armed
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Speaker 19: guards and militia to round up people to commit to
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Speaker 19: conscript the army breaking into houses and their council.
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Speaker 4: What's the difference?
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Speaker 19: Why is one better than the other?
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Speaker 4: I didn't say one was, and you know, so.
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Speaker 19: I'm just saying they talk about what's going on in Venezuela,
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Speaker 19: but no one mentions what happened in Ukraine to all
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Speaker 19: the people that stayed the men and how they were
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Speaker 19: apprehended to be conscripted to fight in the war.
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Speaker 4: So are you talking about like you in the last
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Speaker 4: week or two? Are you talking about at the beginning
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Speaker 4: of the invasion, Since.
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Speaker 19: The beginning of the invasion. That's how they have conscripted people.
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Speaker 19: They've gone house to house, into factories, into businesses and
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Speaker 19: cafes with armed militia and basically dragged and beat these
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Speaker 19: these conscripts out of the buildings. That's why so many
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Speaker 19: of them knock out and left, because that's how that's
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Speaker 19: how Zelenski got his people to fight. The people aren't
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Speaker 19: fighting because they want to, they're fighting in the arm
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Speaker 19: because they were dragged into the war, the majority of
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Speaker 19: them in the Ukraine.
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Speaker 4: Well, and this is you know I'm reading of course,
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Speaker 4: you know, you get this from certain sources. So Al
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Speaker 4: Jazeera is out, you know, is one of the most free,
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Speaker 4: most prolific source of some of these stories. Uh, they're
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Speaker 4: radio free Europe. Uh says that the the the military
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Speaker 4: conscriptions have gone beyond even that they're being conscripted into
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Speaker 4: police service and things like that. Then, and here's my question.
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Speaker 4: We're coming up on our news, so I want to
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Speaker 4: for trouble. You can't go into a country that's never
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Speaker 4: Second Amendment. I would argue that this general Realissimo, Oh,
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Speaker 4: I don't know this, This Interior secretary that's running his
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Speaker 4: What gives you the authority? That's what I'm saying about.
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Speaker 4: You know, the Venezuelan so we you know, we extricate Maduro,
31:01
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Speaker 4: That's all I'm bringing up about the Second Amendment is
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32:13
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Speaker 4: we were talking about this. It could these conscripts in Ukraine.
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Speaker 4: But I'm watching farmers fighting. They're not a part of
32:28
Speaker 4: the militia. They're just they're defending their property with their
32:32
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32:39
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Speaker 19: Because our tax dollars are paying billions of dollars to
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Speaker 4: I can't think of the mercenaries. So you see, you're
32:59
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Speaker 19: Yes, where's the money? Where's the money that they're Ukraine
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Speaker 19: has no money. So the millions of dollars that they're receiving,
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Speaker 19: where's it coming from. It's coming from the United States.
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Speaker 4: When you say receiving you because I know there are
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Speaker 19: They say they're volunteering to go over there. They're getting
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Speaker 4: You're talking about like it was it not Blackrock? What's
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Speaker 4: the private security force? And and those kind of things,
33:40
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Speaker 19: One of them, some of the some of the a
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Speaker 4: I'm confused. So now they're not Ukrainian.
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Speaker 19: In the age still, but they still are, but the
34:22
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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, you know, I see this, I see
34:28
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34:31
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34:34
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34:42
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34:45
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34:49
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34:53
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Speaker 19: Then what why are why aren't they allowing a democracy?
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Speaker 28: I'm all good, Joe. So you're talking about Second Amendment
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Speaker 4: Uh huh.
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Speaker 28: You know, the left wants to tell us that we
46:34
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46:38
Speaker 28: pass that never envision modern firearms. Well, so if that's
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Speaker 28: the case, then we should definitely do away with the
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Speaker 28: Nineteenth Amendment because the people that gave women the right
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Speaker 28: about never envision modern women.
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Speaker 4: Ow. Oh the clattering sound the mic drop you just
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Speaker 4: heard there? Uh you know, well, I was going to
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Speaker 4: point out that the word firearm. Nor does the word
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Speaker 4: gun appear anywhere in the Second Amendment.
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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 4: It isn't arm. It says arm. Right, if I want
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Speaker 4: to walk around with the claymore hanging from my belt,
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Speaker 4: you know, next to my spor and I can do it.
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Speaker 28: The purpose is the security of a free state. So
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Speaker 28: you know, ever since Wilson, the left is advocated that
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Speaker 28: we be ruled by the experts, Joe the expert class,
47:36
Speaker 28: did you say the numbers that they're projecting for GDP
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Speaker 28: right now?
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Speaker 4: Was it five point four or five point two win
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Speaker 4: the last quarter.
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Speaker 28: Four is what they're projecting right now. That might be
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Speaker 28: awful little it's gonna get adjusted. But experts said the
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Speaker 28: highest possible would be two point seven. So they're only off.
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Speaker 26: By like.
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Speaker 4: You know, Joe or more.
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Speaker 28: The experts strolled us that. But let's see six feet
48:05
Speaker 28: social distancing two weeks to flatten the curve. There was
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Speaker 28: no fraud, no reasonable prosecutor. Fossil fuels are causing climate change.
48:18
Speaker 28: We'll run out of fossil fuels.
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Speaker 4: And are you just.
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Speaker 28: Picking number ten years, eight years, twenty five years. Our
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Speaker 28: population is becoming unsustainable. Oh wait, we need mass immigration
48:32
Speaker 28: to do the jobs that the dearth of birth resulting
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Speaker 28: from that policy is leaving open. Joe, you know, the
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Speaker 28: big problem I got would be ruled by the expert class.
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Speaker 4: Is how often they're wrong? Well, how often are they right?
48:51
Speaker 4: That's a class.
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Speaker 28: Time the experts we're right about something.
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Speaker 4: I think they scored about as much as the Los
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Speaker 4: Angeles Chargers did in the late NFL football game, which
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Speaker 4: is narrow at all.
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Speaker 19: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So, well, but you's got to understand who who do
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Speaker 4: the experts work for? And that and this becomes important
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Speaker 4: because you work for you. And the idea of America
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Speaker 4: was that you took care of your business and if
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Speaker 4: you wanted to associate with people, you could associate with
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Speaker 4: those people. That's what the First Amendment is all about.
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Speaker 4: You associate with the people who make your life better
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Speaker 4: and more, you know, easily manage it is and it
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Speaker 4: is on you to do it. And what we've given
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Speaker 4: up on is this idea. And I think maybe some
49:40
Speaker 4: of its laziness, some of its fear, some of it's
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Speaker 4: fear of failure, and and we're afraid of not having money.
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Speaker 4: I've lived two years without any money. I've worked my
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Speaker 4: ass off more in the last two years and made
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Speaker 4: less money than I ever have before. But I've by
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Speaker 4: most people's metrics, I'm wildly successful. It isn't about the money.
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Speaker 4: It's about a life well led, and that's what America
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Speaker 4: was supposed to be about.
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Speaker 28: So I'm having a Navan Johnson moment of clarity here, Joe.
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Speaker 4: What I'm thinking, is.
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Speaker 28: The expert say what the people that paid them tell
50:29
Speaker 28: them to say.
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Speaker 4: It's a profit scheme. Yeah, yeah, it's so, so is
50:35
Speaker 4: uh and and I won't guess your weight, but I
50:39
Speaker 4: will guess your weight in gold, which is what this
50:41
Speaker 4: is about. It it's about money trafficking, it's about moving
50:45
Speaker 4: money around. It's about being able to say I can
50:48
Speaker 4: force this to happen if I want to. And that's
50:52
Speaker 4: the bigger part of it is the is the power
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Speaker 4: struggle of being able to say I can amass this
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Speaker 4: population to my end. This is no different than the
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Speaker 4: tenant farmers of the medieval period. You know. It's like, oh,
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Speaker 4: I have a big, you know, city under my kingdom,
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Speaker 4: so I can marshal five thousand men to march against
51:13
Speaker 4: your four thousand men and I'll win. And that's what
51:17
Speaker 4: we're watching on an economic scale. Maybe we're not going
51:20
Speaker 4: to run after each other yelling feed up, but you
51:24
Speaker 4: know we are going to basically do the same thing economically. Yep.
51:31
Speaker 4: Well it's a kill that conversation with a minute to
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Speaker 4: go before the news. But anyway, good to hear from you,
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Speaker 4: doctor Clark. You have a great Monday morning.
51:41
Speaker 28: Take care think about that nineteenth Amendment thing the next
51:44
Speaker 28: time you say the purple hair.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, sir, Oh my goodness, there you go. Well,
51:51
Speaker 4: thank you for contributing something more controversial than my point
51:55
Speaker 4: about the Second Amendment four three, four eight eight two
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Speaker 4: four to two one seven. And actually next Monday we're
52:03
Speaker 4: going to be supporting the Second Amendment loud and proud.
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Speaker 4: The local Second Amendment group, the Virginia Citizens' Action League
52:14
Speaker 4: Citizens Defense League, is holding their lobby day the General Assembly.
52:18
Speaker 4: Our liberties now get under question this week. Is the
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Speaker 4: government in our flagship state convened and we're going to
52:26
Speaker 4: be live from in the midst of it all. I
52:28
Speaker 4: wonder if I will survive. I wonder if the Speaker
52:31
Speaker 4: of the House will try to shut down the Internet
52:33
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52:37
Speaker 4: You see, Don Scott, the speaker of Virginia's house trying
52:40
Speaker 4: to shut down the Internet like he's the Iatola of
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