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10-21-26 Hour 3 - Moser's delirious Avs "analysis"/Justin Dodge of Heavy Victory podcast/Broncos style points · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: All right, Justin Dodge is going to join us at
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  Speaker 1: 920 this morning, so stay tuned for that.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to miss it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, before we get going, did I tell you what
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  Speaker 3: I saw at a flag football game last week? Seven-year-old
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  Speaker 3: flag football game? Did I? I may have already said this. No,
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  Speaker 3: I saw three coaches at a seven-year-old flag football game.
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  Speaker 3: A head coach on the sideline, a defensive coordinator, and
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  Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator, each with iPads.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm better than Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 3: Seven-year-old flag football game, three iPads, three different coaches coaching
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  Speaker 3: different facets of the team. But why? Now, part of
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  Speaker 3: me wants to say, that's an organized squad. And you
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  Speaker 3: wonder why head coaches in the National Football League grind
• 0:51
  Speaker 3: and college coaches grind until three in the morning. What
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: is that?
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  Speaker 2: It's overkill. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing with kids sports. Look, I played your
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  Speaker 1: select travel team stuff. I did that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Take it back to when you were seven years old. Now,
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  Speaker 3: you're seven. Coach shows up with an iPad and says, look.
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  Speaker 1: If I was a parent and my seven-year-old is being
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  Speaker 1: brought to the sideline to look at film or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is on an iPad, I would kindly walk up
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  Speaker 1: to the coach and be like, she doesn't know quite
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  Speaker 1: how to read yet. Could we calm down the analysis
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  Speaker 1: and analytics portion of our flag football game for the seven-year-old?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Nate, you got to hurry up, man.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, did you see the text that I
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  Speaker 1: sent you? This is what AI is made for.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: Somebody made a highlight reel of real plays that happened
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  Speaker 1: in the BYU and Notre Dame game, but literally used
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  Speaker 1: AI to put Catholics and Mormons on the field.
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  Speaker 3: Wearing their ensembles.
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  Speaker 2: Wearing the ensembles.
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  Speaker 3: Like a Pope ensemble and a Mormon. Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Like a Brigham Young looking guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: The Avs lose both games of this road trip, including
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  Speaker 1: last night, in what was a miserable game. And here's
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  Speaker 1: what we decided to do. Moser got in the house
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  Speaker 1: at like 2.30 in the morning. So he is not
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  Speaker 1: on the show today.
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  Speaker 2: He's sleeping.
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  Speaker 1: But what we asked Moser to do is when you
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  Speaker 1: got back to your house, when you're at peak tired,
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  Speaker 1: can you give us a recap of the game? And
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  Speaker 1: we're going to try and do this on days that
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  Speaker 1: Moser does not make it from late nights getting in.
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  Speaker 1: And the intent was give us some analysis. And this
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  Speaker 1: is the analysis that we got.
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  Speaker 5: Dudes, what's up? 2.35 in the morning. Home. Just loaded in.
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  Speaker 5: Got everything sort of sorted. But I am not coming
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  Speaker 5: in tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: We know that.
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  Speaker 5: Or, I mean, today. That means I would get less
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  Speaker 5: than a four-hour sleep.
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  Speaker 3: We know.
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  Speaker 5: That is not going to happen because I am exhausted
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  Speaker 5: on the back-to-back. And the league sent us back east. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Back-to-back games.
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  Speaker 4: We get it.
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  Speaker 5: On the East Coast, that never happens. Nonetheless, if I
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  Speaker 5: had to come in today in this kind of mood.
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  Speaker 2: What about the game?
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  Speaker 5: And see your faces.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure I could handle it. You know, Vic's
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  Speaker 5: going to be a total.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 5: And Brett's going to sit there and stare at me
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  Speaker 5: and laugh his ass off.
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not in the mood for it right now. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: What about the game? Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Mojo.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know. Three hours sleep, man.
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  Speaker 2: What about the game?
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  Speaker 5: Just giddy and spicy. No, I'm not even remotely in
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  Speaker 5: the mood.
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  Speaker 2: Just the game. What about the game?
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  Speaker 5: I'd rather just take a stick and hit you all
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  Speaker 5: in the shins. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: That was the first minute when we said, recap the
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  Speaker 1: game for us when you get back.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the assignment. Moj, we're not going to have you
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  Speaker 3: on the show. Just get on the phone. Quick recap
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  Speaker 3: of what you thought of last night's performance. And that
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  Speaker 3: was it.
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  Speaker 2: And now, Vic, you feel like you're talking to your
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  Speaker 2: neighbor again.
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  Speaker 3: The amount of talking. Which he continues. The amount of
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  Speaker 3: endless talking. He continues. Dudes, listen. Tough.
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  Speaker 6: Tough.
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  Speaker 5: Not good starts. And then you can't get into gear.
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  Speaker 5: It started with Pittsburgh on Friday, but you can't get
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  Speaker 5: into gear. And by the time you get into gear,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you're behind.
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  Speaker 4: The eight ball.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what Philly did, believe it or not. And,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, they played a really good game. Their
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  Speaker 5: structure was really good. The Devils gave you opportunities, but
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  Speaker 5: you didn't capitalize. It was there for you to take
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  Speaker 5: it early on. Or not early on. Sorry, second period.
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  Speaker 5: But it didn't happen. So, listen. Don't listen to me. Listen,
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  Speaker 5: I can come in and talk to you until I'm
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  Speaker 5: blue in the face about what transpired. But listen to
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  Speaker 5: Coach Benoit.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on. Stop. He said.
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  Speaker 2: That was the analysis of this?
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  Speaker 3: He said there. Listen to this. He goes, listen. Don't
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  Speaker 3: listen to me.
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  Speaker 5: Didn't happen. So listen, don't listen to me. Listen, I
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  Speaker 5: can come in.
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  Speaker 2: All right, continue.
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  Speaker 5: To their postgame comments, they'll tell you exactly what's going on.
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  Speaker 5: This team is way good. They're way going to fix it.
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  Speaker 5: But listen to what they said, because that's accurate.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, stop for a second again. They're way good and
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  Speaker 1: way going to fix it. which is something I think
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  Speaker 1: my four-year-old baby Jamal Cale says to me when I
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  Speaker 1: go home.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: And they'll tell you exactly what the story is right now.
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  Speaker 5: Tampa will come in on Friday, and I expect a way, way,
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  Speaker 5: way better performance. But not a good roadie. Quick two-game roadie,
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  Speaker 5: not good. And even through 10 games, 10-game segments, they're 5-4-1. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: you're on the positive side, but This team is way
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  Speaker 5: better than that. They know it. So expect to see
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  Speaker 5: that in the future. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Analysis was two game roadie. Not good. But I think
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  Speaker 2: it'll get better.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Got that.
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  Speaker 3: Next.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you all this on Thursday. Tomorrow's Wednesday. There's
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  Speaker 5: nothing to even really say. Broncos don't play till Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: So that I'll give you all my analysis about the
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  Speaker 5: Cardinals and about everything else.
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  Speaker 2: But Or the analysis, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That's all I got, man. I'm tired.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, great.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to throw some laundry in the washing machine.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to go to bed.
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  Speaker 3: Why are you.
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  Speaker 5: Telling me that?
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  Speaker 3: And, uh, f * * * it.
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  Speaker 5: I'll see you on Thursday, and we'll get her done.
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  Speaker 5: All right, dude, it's late.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So, a typical post-game analysis from Mark Mosier on
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  Speaker 3: the Avalanche last night. At one point, they were outshot 23-5.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I said it at the beginning of the show.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to throw some laundry in the washing machine.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to go to bed.
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  Speaker 3: Why does he think, again, it goes back to the over-talker.
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  Speaker 3: Why does he think me knowing that he's throwing laundry
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  Speaker 3: in the washing machine is essential information to this, to
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  Speaker 3: this conversation? Why is that essential?
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  Speaker 5: I'll see you on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Nelly, I told you, it's a little too close on
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  Speaker 2: that one. It's a little too close.
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  Speaker 1: I hear a clear F and a clear K at
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  Speaker 1: the end of that. Like, when I ask you, hey, Brett,
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  Speaker 1: what did you think of the abs last night? At
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  Speaker 1: any point, will you go through your, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: your hygiene schedule?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Vic, it's funny that you mention that, because I
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  Speaker 2: had to do the dishes last night, and.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what... How does his brain work? No, it's... This
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  Speaker 3: is how it works.
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  Speaker 2: You know this.
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  Speaker 1: It's whatever enters his head must be said aloud.
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  Speaker 2: There's no... There's no, like.
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  Speaker 3: No filter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: There's a filter of, like, here are thoughts that I
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  Speaker 1: have that don't need to be made public. I can
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  Speaker 1: just keep that in here. And then there's thoughts of, well,
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  Speaker 1: whatever pops in here has to come out. And that's
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  Speaker 1: how he does it.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 1: It was a bad two-game road trip. Like, they looked
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  Speaker 1: miserable to start games. That's happened for three consecutive games,
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  Speaker 1: by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Could you imagine if his post-game comments, Jared Bednar... win
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  Speaker 3: stream of consciousness like that. Oh, can you imagine?
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  Speaker 1: Betsy, who will join us tomorrow, by the way, he
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  Speaker 1: did not join us today.
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  Speaker 2: He will join us tomorrow at eight o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Nelly, save that, save that just because I want to,
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  Speaker 3: I want to play that for Bednar. These are Mosier's
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  Speaker 3: comments right after the game.
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  Speaker 1: So if Betsy came on tomorrow and said, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we need to be better in the first half. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: my laundry is almost done.
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  Speaker 3: I just started some dishwashing this morning. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It gives you nothing. Now, this is what Bednar had
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  Speaker 2: to say.
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  Speaker 5: After the game. So listen, don't listen to me.
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  Speaker 2: Don't listen. Don't listen to Mosher. Listen to coach.
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  Speaker 8: Well, we look slow, unenergetic tonight.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Like, I didn't like any of those either of these games.
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  Speaker 8: Losing races, losing battles. Like, it starts there kind of
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  Speaker 8: for me. We waited way too long to start playing.
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  Speaker 8: They looked like they were energized and doing all.
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  Speaker 5: The right things.
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  Speaker 8: Even tonight, I didn't think we managed to talk very well,
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  Speaker 8: but it was more than that. I think we started
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  Speaker 8: playing in the third period, and Matt didn't check the sheet,
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  Speaker 8: but I'm guessing we had more shots in the third
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  Speaker 8: period than we had the rest of the game combined.
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  Speaker 8: We had more scoring chances in the third period than
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  Speaker 8: the rest of the game combined. We gave up less
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  Speaker 8: in the third period than we did.
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  Speaker 4: The rest of the game combined.
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  Speaker 1: Midway through the second period, they were outshot 23-5. That
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  Speaker 1: is not what the Avs do. They do that to
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  Speaker 1: other teams. They make them look that way. In fact, Vic,
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  Speaker 1: I had my back turned to the TV for a
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  Speaker 1: couple minutes. I was doing something with my daughter. I
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  Speaker 1: turned back around. I saw 23-5, and I said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the Avs started putting it on them, huh? And didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize it was flipped. And it was such a foreign
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  Speaker 1: thing to see on the screen. I almost thought, did
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  Speaker 1: the graphics team miss a one in front of their
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  Speaker 1: five or something like that?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's just, that's not their game. But he said it.
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  Speaker 1: They were getting beat to pucks. They looked slow and unenergetic.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, this is what he said after the
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  Speaker 1: Philly loss. Barry Silmar said this.
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  Speaker 8: Sluggish and sloppy.
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  Speaker 5: You know, like execution was.
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  Speaker 1: Sluggish and sloppy. Slow and unenergetic. That needs to change
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  Speaker 1: on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Now, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of these rumors going around that
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  Speaker 1: maybe they're all dealing with some sort of sickness or something.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's a part of it. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: I think that would get out if that were the case.
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  Speaker 3: I think that would be.
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  Speaker 4: You think.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they'd make that an excuse.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Benzie's going to go to the postgame
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  Speaker 1: presser and be like, well, a lot of our guys
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  Speaker 1: are sick right now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he'd say that. Even if it were true.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, hell, at the end of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Last year in the playoffs, a lot of guys were
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: dealing with some pretty major injuries and playing through it.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't even say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but these aren't the playoffs. I think we've heard
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  Speaker 3: about the team flus and the team sicknesses before, if
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  Speaker 3: that's the case. They just play bad.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't come to play in the first period.
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  Speaker 3: The last three games, first periods have been bad. Bad
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  Speaker 3: against Pittsburgh. They won that game. Bad against Philly. They lost.
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  Speaker 3: Bad again last night. They couldn't come back. Starts to
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: games have been slow.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Varying.
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  Speaker 3: Very slow, as slow as Mosher's laundry.
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  Speaker 1: And, and they, they were able to come back against Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 1: but you can't rely on that, especially when you go
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  Speaker 1: on the road. Now, I think you'll see a different
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  Speaker 1: kind of team Friday when they play against Tampa at
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  Speaker 1: ball arena. Uh, you mentioned this Vic, this might have
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  Speaker 1: something to do with it. That was their third back
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  Speaker 1: to back in two weeks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's, that's difficult, especially when you're on the road for
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  Speaker 1: two of those.
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  Speaker 3: Um, I get it on the second game. I get
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  Speaker 3: it on the second game.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: That's why you got to take care of business in Philly. Right.
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  Speaker 3: If you beat a bad Philly team, and that's a
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: bad team, take care of business there. Then you have
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  Speaker 3: some grace in Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: You can shrug your shoulders at that game if you
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: take care of Philly, but they didn't. But on Friday,
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: when they take on Tampa at Ball Arena, they should
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  Speaker 1: have Logan O'Connor back, who's been missing all year. I
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: think that should give them a boost. Even out there,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: they've been running 11-7.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: For the last few games, and that's partly due to
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: cap stuff because Nick Waugh's been out, Sveshkov finally came back,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that'll even out with Logan coming back
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  Speaker 1: on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: You know why I'm not quick to blame the fatigue thing?
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  Speaker 3: Because how do you explain the way they played in
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  Speaker 3: the last seven minutes of the game where they look
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: like a completely different team? Yeah, it's a desire. And
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  Speaker 3: that's late in the game when you should be fatigued. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And they found an extra gear because they had to,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they just need to do that earlier
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  Speaker 1: in game. They're back at it on Friday against Tampa,
• 13:16
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• 13:19
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• 13:23
  Speaker 1: but when we return, we'll talk to Justin Dodge next.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to speak very, very quickly for Jamal, just
• 13:28
  Speaker 7: for a second, because Jamal and I have actually been
• 13:31
  Speaker 7: in touch.
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  Speaker 4: He's an incredible human.
• 13:35
  Speaker 7: And Jamal was right above me and watched this happen.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: And we, you know, you're the victim.
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: Sometimes victims extend to those who don't suffer through it.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: I can't even imagine what that did to him mentally. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: At that time.
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  Speaker 7: I know in the conversations we've had, it had a
• 13:55
  Speaker 7: huge impact.
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  Speaker 3: I can't even imagine. A huge impact on him. Okay,
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: so this is all happening. Yeah. Chaos and craziness.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And we're waiting for these guys to celebrate a championship.
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  Speaker 1: That is part of the podcast. Justin Dodge, the heavy
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  Speaker 1: victory podcast who joined us in studio. Now, first of all, Justin,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for joining us today.
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  Speaker 4: It's my pleasure, man. Thank you so much for having
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: me on. I appreciate it.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Um, Vic, I was just looking at him. I go,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: you look like somebody that could put me in an
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: arm bar.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he and Mosher have a different workout routine. Exactly.
• 14:28
  Speaker 7: I don't know exactly what Mosher's routine is, but, uh,
• 14:31
  Speaker 7: but no, I've, I've actually been playing Brazilian jujitsu and
• 14:34
  Speaker 7: judo for 30 years. Um, It's something that's been a
• 14:38
  Speaker 7: huge part of my life. It's actually been a part
• 14:40
  Speaker 7: of my recovery. It's been a part of my recovery,
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff. So, yeah, with doing all that,
• 14:47
  Speaker 7: you end up kind of.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: Getting a certain look from it. Oh, sure. Between the
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: cauliflower ears and everything.
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: All right, so let me provide some of the background.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Justin Dodge, the voice you're hearing here, is a sergeant
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: with the Denver Police Department. If you take yourself back
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: to June of 2023... And we were sitting there celebrating
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: a Denver Nuggets championship, the parade. We were all there.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: I know that you were there, Brett Cain, and I'm
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: on the stage waiting for all the Nuggets to come
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: in from parading around the streets. And I'll never forget,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: I'm looking out at 750,000 people, and we're like, what
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: is taking so long? Why aren't all the trucks in?
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Where are all the other fire trucks?
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Why? Why is this delayed an hour? What is going on?
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: We're here to celebrate the Nuggets. And word comes down, uh-oh,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: there was an accident with one of the fire trucks.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: It looks like somebody, a Denver police officer, got caught
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: under the truck. Well, that police officer is Justin Dodge.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: And when one of the trucks was turning, a truck
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: that carried Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray, Justin was caught
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: under one of the tires, and it took his leg.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to give the whole story. Justin,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: can you just give a recap for those who don't
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: remember that day where you were situated and how that happened? Yeah.
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: Obviously, biggest event in the state of Colorado. They estimated
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: that there was about a million people for that particular parade.
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: And yeah, at the moment that this is happening, the
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: truck is turning. We're going northbound on Cherokee. And I've
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: Situated myself on the passenger side, trying to communicate with
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: people inside the truck to try to get the truck.
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: The other people that you didn't mention that were on
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: the truck, the entire Kroenke family was on the truck.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: The NBA trophy.
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: That was situated right on the front of the truck.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: So everybody was there for that particular truck.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: And when the truck is turning, the engineer doesn't know
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: where I am. I don't realize the truck is turning
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: and Um, I also don't know because I'm not a
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: firefighter that the wheels come out three feet away from
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: the frame of the truck. So where I've been going
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: for 45 minutes, I've been fairly safe. Um, at least
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: from the truck, uh, when it turns, I don't realize
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: that right behind me, something that I can't even see
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: is tires to an 80,000 pound fire truck. And I
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: get caught and that's when the whole sequence starts.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: And here we are years later. You've got a prosthetic leg.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: You're doing well.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: You started a podcast, Heavy Victory Podcast. You talk about
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: what motivated you, what inspired you to keep going. Your
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: attitude hasn't changed one bit. And you've used this as
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: a grounds for inspiring other people. I just want to
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: ask you, because I was on your podcast. You heard
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: our voices there. We were talking about Jamal Murray. When
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: you were looking up and you're on the ground and
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: you don't know what the hell's going on, you're in shock, obviously.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Did you make eye contact with Jamal at that point?
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: When did this Jamal thing happen?
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: No, obviously there's a lot of things going on.
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: I took one look at my leg, and we won't
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: get into any detail, but I looked at my leg
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: and realized that.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I'm very badly injured.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: They're actually applying tourniquets to make sure that I don't
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: lose blood and get to the point of potentially dying
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: before we get to an OR.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: So at that point, yeah, I don't look up.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: At the truck, uh, our guys around me just go
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: into action and do exactly what first responders do on
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: a daily basis. They, they save lives and they help people.
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: And that's exactly what they were doing with me. Um,
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: get me out from under the truck, getting tourniquets applied
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: and freeing her out of the way to get me
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: to the hospital through a crowd of a million. Uh,
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: it wasn't until, it wasn't until actually a couple of
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: days later that I realized, um, I knew who was
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: on the truck as we were going. And I realized
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: that that is the reason that the crowd became so
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: infatuated with that particular truck. But I didn't, I didn't
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: realize who was where and how people were situated and
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: seeing it until a couple of days later when, when
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: Jamal actually reached out and wanted to come see me
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: in the hospital.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: You know, it's inspiring to hear that he did that.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: And those are a lot of the things that go unreported, right?
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: A lot of the players do certain things and, And
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: it's amazing that they were able to go on that stage.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: And I almost feel a sense of shame.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Here we are.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: We're out there celebrating, smiling. And that day was horrific
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: for you. For a guy like me, it was one
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: of the greatest days in Denver history. For you, it's
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: a different it's a different kind of day. Yeah. And
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to come to terms with that, Justin. I,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: like I said, I go back to parade day. How
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: do you ever say why me or in any of
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: that business? Do you ever ask yourself those questions?
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: Um, not one single time. And I can tell you
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: is hand on a Bible. Not one single time have
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: I ever asked why me? Um, I've even thought of
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: putting my leg in a bucket of fertilizer.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: To see if I can get this thing to grow.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: But every single day that I look down, my leg
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: is not growing.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not getting my leg back.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: So, you know, years and years, decades even of prepping
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: and preparing, pursuing wellness in my life to make sure
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: that I'm there and ready for my family, for teammates,
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: for the community has made it to where why me
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: doesn't matter. So instead of why me, it's what's next? What's, what,
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: what is, what is this new normal look like? And
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: how can I take this? Obviously I want to get
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: back to work. I want to do things, but as the,
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: as the momentum starts growing, people start attaching to, to
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: the message. And that's when things kind of started to,
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: started to blow up for.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Me, I And this is what's amazing is Justin Dodge
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: is with us. So he has the Heavy Victory podcast.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It comes out every Tuesday at 10 a.m. And some
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: of the stories that you go through on that podcast
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: are incredible. And your perspective is incredible. One of the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: things that I wonder, though, for you, obviously, you spent
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: your entire life, you said 30 years doing jujitsu.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: You're a fit guy. Is there part of you.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: When this first happened was like, how can I continue
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: this sort of lifestyle? Because obviously, When you do your
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: whole thing with physical activity, I mean, what is it?
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: You know, I've talked about this before.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: I went from arguably one of the fittest people in
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: that crowd of a million people to permanently handicapped in.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: A matter of a couple of seconds.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Right?
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: And I actually sat at one point, they're applying tourniquets,
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: and I was never in shock. I was never at
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: that point where I didn't have conscious ability to think
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: and all of those things.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: Everything just starts running through your head of, all right,
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: how am I going to do all of these things?
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: And I remember seeing my leg, realizing how bad the
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: damage is.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: That thing's gone.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: And.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, so you knew it immediately.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Like, it was.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like, there was... They're salvaged.
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: They tried for some different things, but I knew I
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: will never function the way I did a couple of
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: seconds ago. Like, that is done at this point.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: So I actually.
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: thought to myself, crazy thought, when's the next time I'm
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: going to get to do a burpee? That was actually,
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: I'm sitting there, they're cutting my uniform off, all of these,
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: getting IVs running. And I'm thinking, when is the next
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: time I'm going to get to work out? Because it's
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: been such a huge part of my life. Not just
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: working out, but just wellness in general.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: And you said, sorry, just real quick to follow up
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: on that, doing the 30 years of jujitsu training and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, you said that helped in your recovery
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in what way?
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: You know, I think one of the things with jujitsu
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: and just sports in general, right, is you're constantly being
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: put in an uncomfortable situation.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: You know, I talk about the pursuit of wellness and
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: it's a verb. It's something you have to do.
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: And part of that pursuit is you have to do
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: things that are uncomfortable, like eating correctly and getting the
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: right amount of sleep, working out, you know, confronting any
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: mental issues that you have and then taking those head on.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: All of these things are work, right? So part of
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: the jujitsu, I played in the USHL. Some of those
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: things kind of prepped me because I understood what work meant.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: I understood what it took to kind of sacrifice now
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: and to make it, I don't want to say hurt
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: a little bit, but to get through all of this,
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: I'm going to have to put in the work to
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: get to where I eventually want to be.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: So we wanted to bring you on this week, Justin, obviously,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: because the Nuggets tip off tomorrow night. It's Nuggets week.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: You're going to be associated with the Nuggets for the
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: rest of your life.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: But we wanted to also promote your podcast, which you
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: started a few months ago. And on your podcast, you've
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: had some of the most elite athletes and speakers. I mean,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: you've had athletes like Amy Ruin, formerly Amy Van Dyke,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: and you've had some MMA contenders. combatants. You've had elite
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: athletes like myself on.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: Right, exactly.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: What is the focus of the podcast and what are
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: you trying to accomplish with that?
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: You know, the concept of heavy victory, right, is thriving
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: through tragedy. It's overcoming overwhelming odds. Most of the time
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: when you see a story of somebody who's really been
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: successful in there's been a lot of hard roads. And
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: so bringing on people that have gotten to the top,
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: I've had doctors on Ryan Harris, you know, came in
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: and all the different things he went through with, with
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: injuries and that kind of stuff, trades. Um, the, the
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: purpose of the podcast is to teach people how to
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: figure out their drive, how to understand purpose, how to
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: really start to develop a sense of needing to pursue
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: wellness again in their life. And listening to these great,
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: amazing stories, and all of these people come from different backgrounds,
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: they've had different adversities, different setbacks, and figuring out how
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: they can take these individual things, learn a lesson or two,
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: be entertained, of course, and then go be the hero
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: of their own story.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's funny is that when you Talk
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: to me for a few minutes before we jumped on
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: about the podcast. I don't know if you think about
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it this way, because obviously, if you could go back,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that you wouldn't want that day to happen.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: But in some way, you said you love doing this podcast.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: And maybe this has.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Opened up an avenue for you that you never knew
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: that you could pursue before.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: You know, I've spent my entire life as a police officer, unfortunately,
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: trying to be as covert as possible.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: That's ultimately what we want. We go, we do the things,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: we leave.
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: And now all of a sudden to be in this
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: very overt world, I actually had a producer, we were
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: shooting a commercial and I had a producer at the
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: end of it pulled me to the side and I'll
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: never forget this. And he said, I have a question.
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: And if this is too much, I apologize. With everything
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: that's happening right now, with your ability to now help
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: people get along and help people understand how to go
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: out and live their best life possible, would you move
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: your foot if you could? And I was like, man,
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: for you to actually have like the gall to ask
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: me that. But then I was like, that is really
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: cool that you would ask me that. And I'm in
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: pain every single day. I have so, you know, I
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: give that kind of like 20% of the iceberg is
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: kind of what people see.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: And there's that other 80%.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: And I think that's very true with a lot of
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: professional athletes, a lot of people that are kind of
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: on a higher stage.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: But I can tell you that I wouldn't move my foot.
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: Because the purpose that I believe that has come from this,
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: I know because I get reached out to all of
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: the time, whether it's after, after going and speaking in
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: front of a, in front of a group or something
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: on the podcast, something like that, somebody sees my story
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: and says, Hey, because of this, I've reconnected with family
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: members because of this, I've stopped drinking. I've, I've even
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: had a couple of people, and this is almost an
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: emotional thing for me. Um, Actually tell me that they
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: have not taken their life because of this story, because
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: of some of the things that guests have said, and
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: that they figured out a way to start moving through and, again,
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: be their best version possible.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Justin, if I paid you. Hardy, could you become a
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: personal trainer of Mark Mosher?
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: I'll of course take the money, but I'll do it
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: for free just for Mosher.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Just for the help.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Because he has a crazy lifestyle, dude. He's in and out,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: late hours and stuff. But if you saw what he
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: ate in the mornings... Brett, can you tell him what
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: he eats on a morning basis?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: That's the sound that his stomach makes, by the way.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I've seen him walk in. Every day there's some sort
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: of diet soda that's in here in the morning.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Two or three of them.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Two or three.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: There is.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Sunships mixed with pop tarts.
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: Oh, wow.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: That's a good, good, good, healthy carb. You know, you
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: got to get your carbs in the morning, make sure
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: you got your energy.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: And he goes, my blood sugar is low. I need this.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: That's what the breakfast needs to be. That's what it's
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: gotta be.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's great.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: And you know, I think actually part of the podcast
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: and part of this, um, is making it so people,
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: it's very easy to hear these stories be incredibly motivated and,
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: But then you're like, I don't know where to start.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: And so one of the things trying to do is
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: like actually break down some of the things individually that
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: some of these incredible athletes or doctors, businessmen have done
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: to actually give people.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Like a little bit of a lesson.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: And then also have people take a little bit of
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: their own responsibility and put some of their own muster
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: into it and do some research and start figuring things out.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: Because it does not take much to make– it's the
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: snowball effect, right? It does not take much. If you
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: just take away the Pop-Tarts and the Sun Chips in
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: the morning, you can do a lot to all of
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: a sudden have it to where you're like, man, what
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: I did today is going to make tomorrow better. And
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: we're just going to work on that and snowball off
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: of that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Well, you know my goal. I listen to your pod.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I love it. I would love to see the day
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: when we get Jamal Murray on that pod, man, just
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: to see how, and I know, listen, he Jamal man
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: is emotional about that, but I'd love to hear him
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: open up. Who is next on your podcast? Heavy victory.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: Um, I'm not sure who the next guest is that
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: we're going to release. Um, we, we, we film every week.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: We have some really big guests coming up. Um, and
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: then my incredible producer, Jenny, um, she kind of goes
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: through the pod and base bases it based on, on
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: topics and all of those sorts of things to, to, to,
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: to release who the next person is. But We have
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: amazing guests coming up. And again, from a snowball effect,
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: now that word is kind of getting out, I also
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: want to give a big shout out to Cronky Sports
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: and Entertainment family and everybody that understands that building a podcast,
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: you know, it takes a little while.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: And that they are.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: Dedicated to seeing this go and to thrive and helping
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: with getting the resources for incredible guests and that kind
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: of stuff to really help people build their own lives.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Justin Dodge, again, his podcast, Heavy Victory Podcast. It comes
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: out every Tuesday, live at 10 a.m., wherever you get
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: your podcasts. Justin, you're an incredible human being. Thanks so
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: much for the time this morning and really appreciate it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you guys for having me on. Thanks, Vic.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: See you, buddy.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: All right, bud.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: That is Justin Dodge, back after this. Again, big shout
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: out to Justin Dodge, who just joined us in studio. Again,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: his podcast, Heavy Victory, comes out every Tuesday, live at
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: 10 a.m. You can find that wherever... You find your podcast.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: He also mentioned that there might be a documentary that's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: in the works right now that could be coming out
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: sometime in the future. So keep your eyes peeled for
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: that as well. But just a pretty incredible human being
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: right there, Justin Dodge.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Hell of a guy.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: So.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Abs lose their two games over the weekend or I'm sorry,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: two games in the road trip. And so they're going
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to get back at home on Friday. We have the
• 31:39
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  Speaker 3: Let's go!
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• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I do think that we're now crossing over into the
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals portion of this week where we take a
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: look at the opponent for the Broncos.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: And Vic mentioned something earlier that I totally agree with.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: That if.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to expect the Broncos to win
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: against a bad Cardinals team. I think anything beyond that
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: is too lofty of an expectation. They need to stack
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: together some weeks and games of consistent football, especially on
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the offensive side, before you even venture into that territory.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, we're in the style point area now?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Well, haven't we been all year, Vic? I mean, they're 4-2,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and nobody feels really good.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm of the belief where assumption is a
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: bad word. in the NFL. Assuming you can beat anybody
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: with an inconsistent offense is especially dumb.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Right?
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Because it's not an offense you can rely on. You
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: can rely on this defense. It's been reliable. You can't
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: rely on the offense. And if you can't rely on
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: one half of your team, how can you consistently prepare
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: to win any game? You have to be aware that
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: you can lose anytime. You can win anytime. That's just
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: the way it is. If the Denver Broncos lose to
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Arizona on Sunday. Why should you be surprised?
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what's really interesting? I wanted to see
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: the over-under on this game. And the over-under is actually
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: higher than it was against Seattle, which surprises me for
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: one reason. There is no team in the league worse
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: at explosive play rate than the Arizona Cardinals. They have
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: no boost or jam to their offense.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: They beat the Rams with a bunch of field goals.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, though.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: It's six field goals is how they won. Now, Trey
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: McBride is the focal point in that offense, no question
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: about it. He gets targeted a million times a game.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I think Jeremiah Love, who they spent that third overall
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: pick on, I believe, He's still kind of like not
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: found his footing yet this year. He was out last
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: week in the Rams game. But really he's had a
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of just so-so games to start this year.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: My whole thing is this game feels a lot like
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: a 20-14 or 17-13 type of game, which I think
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: plays in the Broncos' favor. Because let's be honest, Vic,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: if there's one thing that we're very– at least I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: am very assured in. Jacoby Brissett ain't doing nothing to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that secondary, even if Sertan and Hufang are out.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Like, that's not a threat to you.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I don't disagree.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: It's basically, to me, if you can put up 20 points,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: you can win this football game.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, but, I mean, I guess what I'm saying is
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: how have the Broncos scored points in the last two weeks?
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: They've scored points partly because the defense has gotten the
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: ball back.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: The defense has scored points. They're not pick sixes or
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: strip sack returns, but they put the offense in position
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: outside of those two drives. And that's what's so, it's
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: got my head in a pretzel because we have seen progress.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I've seen it. I saw it in the second quarter.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I have seen success. I know what it looks like.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I saw two drives, consecutive drives, where the Broncos look
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: like a world beater on offense. A 16 play drive
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: and a nine play drive. So we have visual evidence
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: that they can do it. And then it just all
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: went away. Like a snap of a finger, it went away.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: You know, those two drives, best drives of the year,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you know what's interesting about those, though? There was never
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: really a huge play. They had a huge penalty. The
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Cortland Sutton PI that was about a 20-yarder was a
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: huge penalty. But there wasn't like some, you know, 25-yard
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: completion or 30-yard run, especially that first drive. That was
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: 16 plays, 74 yards. I mean, they just sort of
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: chugged their way all the way downfield and finished in
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the end zone, which I think is a compliment to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: them because a concern that I've had with that style
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: of offense is you have to play pretty perfectly, meaning
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: you can't get false starts and you can't have pre-snap
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: penalties and you can't take holdings and you can't do
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this and that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: They're able to do that twice in a row.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: 25 plays through two drives, two touchdown drives that resulted
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: in 150 yards of offense.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: And then nothing else outside of it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: It's still the consistency factor that is the big thing
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: that freaks you out. Is why can't this happen more often?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: You're capable of doing it. Can you do it? All right,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: we got a touchdown drive here. Maybe you do mix
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: in a three and out. Can the next drive be
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: a 10-play drive? Can the drive after that be a
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: 7-play drive? Can you just do it consistently? Because if
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you can do that and keep your defense fresh for
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: an entire game, you don't need to put up giant
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: point totals to win football games.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Bro, I'm reading a little bit more about this episode
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: that took place with the Tennessee Titans, and it's pretty
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: damn scary. Can you refresh people? I will. Titans defensive
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: tackle Jordan Elliott yesterday. Went to his car to retrieve
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: his gun.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: This was, I think, on last Thursday.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Last Thursday, I'm sorry. Went to his car to retrieve
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: his gun after he had an altercation with offensive tackle J.C.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Latham.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Elliott took off his pads, stormed out of the facility,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: and went to his parking lot, the player's lot. Only
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: to be confronted and talked down by none other than JFM,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: John Franklin Meyer. who played for the Broncos last season
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: and two years before that. And if not for John
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Franklin Myers, I don't know how far this escalates, but
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: that's pretty damn heroic when you think about it. That's
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: pretty damn impressive.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: For JFM?
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Absolutely it is. I mean, he could have saved lives there.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to figure out, you said you're reading
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the story.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I don't have specific details of this, Did JFM know
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: this is what he was going to do, or did
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: he just see that he was mad and went to, like,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: calm him down?
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Either way. Either way. I mean, think about this.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Without him there. Multiple media outlets first reported that Elliott
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: attempted to retrieve the gun from his car when Titans
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: defensive lineman John Franklin Myers helped de-escalate the situation.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Yes. I....
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: This has got to be a first, doesn't it?
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: First of what? No, we've seen guys go to their
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: cars for guns. Remember that Kansas City player that ended tragically?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I guess you're right.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: That is just, it's, look, there's obviously something that isn't
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: quite right upstairs.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: If that's the lengths you're going to go to for
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: an altercation.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Says he's going through some personal issues. Yeah, an altercation
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: in practice, but man, that's wild. So that was last Thursday,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and again, JFM, of all people, was the guy who
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: was the dude who stopped it. Now, texture asked the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: question that I'm wondering, that's an arrest, right?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, I would hope so.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on. An arrest? I don't know how, well,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: he's been cut from the team. I don't know how
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: he gets another job unless he goes through some serious counseling.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a wild story. Again, the Nuggets open
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: their season tomorrow. Just real quick, Vic, a quote here
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: from David Adelman, and one that I think is interesting
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: because it kind of echoes something that I've been thinking
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs and all offseason. David Adelman said this
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: about Christian Brown.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: I don't think CBL admitted in the media, but Christian
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: easily could have been somebody that was out at the
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: end of the year. He was playing through a lot.
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: But yeah, the explosion's back.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: As you guys know, his special skill is the way
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: he runs the floor in the explosion. And it's... it's back.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: And I know in Boulder, I know it's a preseason
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: game to see him go up and dunk the ball
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: for the first time, but he literally couldn't do that
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: at the last month and a half of the season
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: into the playoffs. It just was cool to see that.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: Cause I think it made him realize like, okay, through physicality,
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: I'm back. Like I can play through this stuff.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: When he said he very easily could have been out
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: at the end of the year.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: If you remember, I was saying that in the playoffs,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you, I don't think you can play Christian.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And it's not because of his ability. it's because of
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: his injury. He looked like he could not move on
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the floor, and it was a net negative instead of
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: a positive.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: There's a classic example that we may be seeing out
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: of Bo Nix, right? We keep wondering, is Bo Nix
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: subconsciously trying to compensate for an injury?
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Is he compensating for an injury? Is that why he's
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: not running effectively?
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: And perhaps that was the case with Christian. I know
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: for a fact Christian was more injured than anybody can imagine.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: can assume he was hurt.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: When he almost got stuffed by the rim on a dunk,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I go, dude, what's that?
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't just that. It actually morphed. It got
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: into his shooting practice. You know, when you're injured, you
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: have no lift. You can't lift for a jump shot.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: You don't want to shoot the jumper anymore. And things happen.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: One thing leads to another. So, yeah, there's a perfect
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: example of, in another sport, of an injury affecting your
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: entire game, your entire mentality.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Well, and.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: What's tough with Bo Nix and what's tough with Christian
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Brown is if guys are playing, you don't want to
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: just be like, well, he's obviously hurt. And it feels
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: like that's a cop-out. But in the case of Bo,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: his unwillingness to really run the football is glaring through
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: six weeks of the season. He has, I think, 37
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: rushing yards through six weeks. His game is built upon
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: mobility and athleticism. Like, that's kind of what makes him
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: special as a quarterback. And when it's not utilized, you
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: have to wonder, well, why is that? And I can't
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: imagine it's because he just doesn't want to. I bet
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: he doesn't trust it, or it hurts, or both.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: It's got to be.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: And the same way with CB during the playoffs. It's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: like he very obviously had something that he wasn't He
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't confident and trusting.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to make another comparison. Very similar
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: to if Mosher's laundry schedule is off, so is his
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: ability to analyze a game.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: No doubt.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: That's why he's got to do it at 2.35 in
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the morning.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: If he's not copying the laundry at a certain time,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: he can't break down hockey.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: And he has to let us know that The laundry
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: is affecting my performance.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I'm going to throw some laundry in the washing machine.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go to bed.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Anyway. Fact checker, please, Nelly.
• 43:34
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• 43:45
  Speaker 3: What a fantastic segue, boys.
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: In case you missed it, We tasked Mosier with giving
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: us his analysis of the Avs-Devils game last night. He
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: flew home after the game. He's delirious. He walks in
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: the door. I said, open your phone, record a voice memo,
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: break down the game for us. Here's a couple highlights
• 44:05
  Speaker 9: from his sleep-deprived analysis.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: If I had to come in today in this kind
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: of mood and see your faces, I'm not sure I
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: could handle it. You know, Vic's going to be a
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: total dickhead. And Brett's going to sit there and stare
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: at me and laugh his ass off.
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: As analysis, that is accurate. All right, here's some more.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: So listen, don't listen to me. Listen, I can come
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: in and talk to you until I'm blue in the
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: face about what transpired, but listen to Coach Bednar, listen
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: to Kale McCarr.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Listen, but don't listen, but listen.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Got it?
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: Okay, and let's wrap it up. What are your final
• 44:39
  Speaker 10: thoughts on everything, Moj?
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you all this on Thursday. Tomorrow's Wednesday. There's
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: nothing to even really say. Broncos don't play until Sunday,
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: so that.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: And they're in. That's a wrap.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: It's great analysis. You know what?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Getting Moj at 2.35 in the morning, I think that's
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: as good as we can expect.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: I'm going to throw some laundry in the washing machine.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go to bed.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Big thanks to Justin Dodge who joined us. If you
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: missed that podcast, find it iTunes, Spotify, Moj, Lombardi, and Kane.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Find his podcast, Heavy Victory, every Tuesday at 10 a.m.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Bedsy tomorrow?
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Bedsy tomorrow at 8 o'clock, yes. So we'll talk to him.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: We will talk to Chad Brown.
• 45:22
  Speaker 10: Chad Brown has been moved to Friday. So it'll be
• 45:24
  Speaker 10: Betsy and Leggy tomorrow.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And we'll talk to Legwald. We'll talk to Chad Brown
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: on Friday. So a whole bunch to get to tomorrow
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: as we creep towards the weekend.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Have a wonderful Wednesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Love you.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: See you.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you all this on Thursday. Tomorrow's Wednesday. There's
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: nothing to even really say. Broncos don't play till Sunday.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: So that.