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Skeletor is a toxic male, female bullying is an epidemic? | HBR News 539 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: This is HBr News number five point thirty nine. Skeletor
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  Speaker 1: is a toxic male Philly female bullying is an epidemic
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  Speaker 1: where we discuss the news of the week and give
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  Speaker 1: it the bad retreatment. Hello everyone, and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: your host, Brian. I'm joined by, as always, my lovely
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  Speaker 1: co host Hannah Wallen and doctor Randmerkam.
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  Speaker 2: Hello.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, and this week on HBr News we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about the Amaru situation, which is a Twitch
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  Speaker 1: streamer who basically dared to not have an opinion. Discord
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  Speaker 1: is going to soon require face ID verification. Skeletor is
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  Speaker 1: of that out of the way, let us get into
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  Speaker 1: today's stories. So this is very very new. Discord announced
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  Speaker 1: yesterday that it will implement a global teen by default
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  Speaker 1: settings rollout starting in early March of twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: This change shifts all new and existing user accounts to
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  Speaker 1: a restricted age appropriate experience by default, limiting access to
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  Speaker 1: sensitive or adult content, certain channels and servers, unblurring marked media,
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  Speaker 1: direct messages from unknowns, and some communication features unless users
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  Speaker 1: verify that they are adults. The policy aims to enhance
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  Speaker 1: teen safety and complies with or exceeds regional online protection
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  Speaker 1: standards building on prior implementations in places like the United
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  Speaker 1: Kingdom and Australia. As you guys know, just briefly, I know,
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  Speaker 1: Kier Starmer's government was and a lot of people in
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  Speaker 1: the European Union are trying to do something about X.
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  Speaker 1: And they were claiming that Elon Musk's platform was endangering
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  Speaker 1: girls because people were using GROC to put women in bikinis.
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  Speaker 1: But of course they didn't they failed to mention that
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  Speaker 1: the majority of people putting women in bikinis were women
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  Speaker 1: putting themselves in bikinis to promote their only fans and
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  Speaker 1: patreons and fans lies and stuff like that and just
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  Speaker 1: like to get attention online.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not putting women in bikinis.
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  Speaker 1: It's drawing pictures, yeah, it's drawing pictures of bikinis.
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  Speaker 2: On top of women in a bikini. Is not putting
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  Speaker 2: a woman in a bikini reality.
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  Speaker 1: It's not reality. It's artificial. Yeah, But anyway, but it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, like what what GROC was, what what grock
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  Speaker 1: was being used for, and how this is bad was
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  Speaker 1: something that is simply the impetus or the excuse that
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  Speaker 1: the European Union and the United Kingdom and Australia and
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  Speaker 1: other countries in the anglosphere are using to basically say,
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  Speaker 1: we got a ban or control X. So this is
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  Speaker 1: happening in Discord. It's sort of like in line with that,
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  Speaker 1: so think of it as sort of related, okay, but
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  Speaker 1: Discord is completely you know, bending the need of this.
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  Speaker 1: To regain full access and disable these restrictions, users can
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  Speaker 1: opt for age verification through either an on device facial
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  Speaker 1: age estimation via a short video selfie process by AI
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  Speaker 1: without leaving the device or using facial recognition or biometrics,
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  Speaker 1: or by submitting a government issued ID to third party
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  Speaker 1: vendor partners, with documents typically deleted immediately at their confirmation.
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  Speaker 1: At least that's the claim. Not all users would necessarily
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  Speaker 1: need to verify manually, as Discord may use an age
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  Speaker 1: inference model based on account behavior to automatically classify some
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  Speaker 1: as adults. Verification status remains private and invisible to others.
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  Speaker 1: This has sparked privacy concerns and backlash among some users,
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  Speaker 1: though Discord emphasizes data protection measures, so.
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  Speaker 2: I could have sworn they already did this last time.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the States last last summer. That was
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  Speaker 2: when the UK rolled the Digital Safety Act at least
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  Speaker 2: further along the road, and at the time I was
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  Speaker 2: worried that when I came home, I'd be unable to
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  Speaker 2: use Discord without showing my papers. But lo and behold,
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  Speaker 2: nothing happened. Everything was the same. But I suppose it's
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  Speaker 2: happening now. What they did then is happening now or
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  Speaker 2: happening soon or whatever. Although a lot of this doesn't
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  Speaker 2: even affect me. I don't indulge in adult content in
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  Speaker 2: Discord or anywhere else. I'm not interested. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: encounter blood or marked media unless it's a spoiler for
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  Speaker 2: a movie. And I have no interest whatsoever in direct
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  Speaker 2: messages from unknowns. In fact, I'm delighted that I'll never
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  Speaker 2: have to worry about having my peace, my grumpy piece
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  Speaker 2: disturbed by randos. I am a miserable bastard and I
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  Speaker 2: and if I don't know you through Honey Badger Radio,
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  Speaker 2: you can fuck off. So thank you Discord as and
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  Speaker 2: when you solve that problem for me. But this restricting
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  Speaker 2: access to certain channels or servers is a little bit perturbing,
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  Speaker 2: because that's that could mean anything. It doesn't even mean
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  Speaker 2: controversial content or whatever. It's just content that the woke
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  Speaker 2: scolds don't like. It's like YouTube all over again. It's
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  Speaker 2: like Twitter one point zero all over again. It's like
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  Speaker 2: Facebook and all these other places all over again. You
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  Speaker 2: would think the first thing they'd clamp down on is
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  Speaker 2: the likes of Vosh and Destiny talking to young teens
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  Speaker 2: about fucking horses and guzzling the come and whatnot. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: those are those people are socialists, and socialists are good people.
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  Speaker 2: What this means is restricting any content that's in the
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  Speaker 2: business of criticizing socialism or feminism or globalism, no matter
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  Speaker 2: how politely we do it. Conspiring to end the white race,
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  Speaker 2: especially the white male race, that's absolutely fine. But saying
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  Speaker 2: a certain word that begins with N in any context,
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  Speaker 2: for any reason, even through the surreptitious use of an
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  Speaker 2: end tower, that's a paddle in all that's a paddle in.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's gonna happen. This isn't our first rodeo, Ladies
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  Speaker 2: and gentlemen, This isn't the first time we've been trampled
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  Speaker 2: by a load of horses with a load of socialists
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  Speaker 2: hanging from their abdominal sockets. So yeah, I suppose we
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  Speaker 2: have nothing to fear unless they find us famous last words.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a good thing, such a small operation
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  Speaker 2: here at any Badger Radio. And we don't particularly appeal
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  Speaker 2: to teenagers. We appeal to middle to old age artists.
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  Speaker 2: Teenagers aren't really, because teenagers are all mostly rebellious retards
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  Speaker 2: who think equality is something achievable or desirable. Irony of ironies,
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  Speaker 2: The very people who appeal to teenagers in this way
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  Speaker 2: are the very people who should be hunted down as
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  Speaker 2: the political extremists and child groomers they are. But they
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  Speaker 2: will be the ones who get to rake in millions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars while they lie relentlessly and groom children relentlessly.
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  Speaker 2: Good times. Weird that people are arguing about the Epstein
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  Speaker 2: Shenanigans and the coded language they're in. Meanwhile, shit like
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  Speaker 2: that is still going in the discord servers of other
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  Speaker 2: such degenerate socialists to this day, and they're not even
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  Speaker 2: calling it pizza or jerki or shrimp. No, no, they're
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  Speaker 2: just straight up telling children how much they want to
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  Speaker 2: fuck them and choke them and eat their still conscious bodies.
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  Speaker 2: And they'll they'll continue to get away with it as
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  Speaker 2: long as they don't say any racial slurs. But we'll
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  Speaker 2: see I suppose we'll see narrator's voice. We will not see.
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  Speaker 3: IG. A lot of people aren't as upset about this
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  Speaker 3: as they should be, and it's not just it's not
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  Speaker 3: just discord. Facebook I think was the first social media
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  Speaker 3: to do this, and they did it well before any
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  Speaker 3: nation decided they had to, and they're not doing it
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  Speaker 3: to protect children. There is still the occasional instance where
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  Speaker 3: you run into images on Facebook that are illicit and reportable.
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  Speaker 3: We'll just put it that way. I don't report much,
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  Speaker 3: but there are certain things like that, but you don't
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  Speaker 3: report it to Facebook. That's the kind of thing you
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  Speaker 3: try to call police on, and that's how that should
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  Speaker 3: be handled. Not demanding every innocent party on the platform
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  Speaker 3: handover information that can be used to steal your financial information.
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  Speaker 3: Every instance of unnecessary sharing of your driver's license number
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  Speaker 3: or your state I D or any other proof of
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  Speaker 3: your identity with an organization that doesn't need it to
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  Speaker 3: verify that it's your bank account being used, or your
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  Speaker 3: identity under which alone is being taken out, or something
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  Speaker 3: like that is them demanding that you risk getting robbed
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  Speaker 3: to do business with them, And that's that's what that
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  Speaker 3: is about. They basically want the ability to find you
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  Speaker 3: and and act on you in some way or another
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  Speaker 3: for saying things they don't like, and they're willing to
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  Speaker 3: risk to add to the risk that you already face
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  Speaker 3: from using your credit card at various shopping locations, even
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  Speaker 3: physical stores, and using your ID for any kind of
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  Speaker 3: financial transactions, that somewhere along the line, somebody's going to
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  Speaker 3: get that information, get into your bank accounts, get in
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  Speaker 3: get your housing information. If you have ownership of a home,
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  Speaker 3: you know they can steal your deed. Now they're just
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  Speaker 3: contributing to that, just so that if you say something
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  Speaker 3: they don't like, even if it's make America great again, right,
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  Speaker 3: or to go the other direction, even if it's fucked
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  Speaker 3: Trump right, that they can come after you, send somebody
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  Speaker 3: to your house to rouse you for saying it. And
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  Speaker 3: while it'll be harder for them to implement control over
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  Speaker 3: your speech in the United States, they'll find ways to
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  Speaker 3: do it. Well, we're not taking government action against you,
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  Speaker 3: but you know your bank doesn't want to do business
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  Speaker 3: with you anymore because you said you know XYZ doesn't
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  Speaker 3: even matter whether it was tittlelywinks. If they decide tittlelywinks
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  Speaker 3: is a bad word and an insult to some group
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  Speaker 3: of people, well you can't say that anymore. You said
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  Speaker 3: tittleywinks one too many times in discord. Sorry, you're being
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  Speaker 3: debanked and it's not a government action. The government didn't
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  Speaker 3: make the bank do this. They just don't want their
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  Speaker 3: reputation sullied by association with you. And since we told
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  Speaker 3: them you said that a bunch of times in our platform, right,
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  Speaker 3: or you're getting kicked off social media. You're deperson now
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  Speaker 3: everything that you're obligated to do via social media for
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  Speaker 3: your job, you can't anymore. You can't promote your employer,
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  Speaker 3: you can't maintain contact with your colleagues, you can't use
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  Speaker 3: this particular system as a means of communication. Oh and
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  Speaker 3: by the way, your phone company is also going to
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  Speaker 3: stop associating with you, so your employer can't call you. Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: if that gets you fired, that's not our fault. You're
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  Speaker 3: the one who said tittley winks over and over again.
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  Speaker 3: Shame on you. What kind of a person talks like
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  Speaker 3: that in a public place, and it doesn't matter if
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  Speaker 3: it's your private Discord server, you know that's public right.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody can see that if they have the right information
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  Speaker 3: on how to get in, and of course the administration
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  Speaker 3: at Discord can see that. Or Twitch if it's your
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  Speaker 3: Twitch direct messages, or Facebook if it's your Facebook messages,
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  Speaker 3: or any number of the smaller social media that hell,
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what exists anymore. There's dozens that
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  Speaker 3: I tried out back when I was doing social bookmarking
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  Speaker 3: for writing and stuff, but any of them, it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: matter what the platform is. The more platforms bend to
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  Speaker 3: the rules that are being put in place by nanny
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  Speaker 3: states in Europe and by nanny states like Australia and
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  Speaker 3: try to impose on American citizens that hey, you got
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  Speaker 3: to do this too, the more your privacy is threatened,
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  Speaker 3: And it's that's the real point. The real point is
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  Speaker 3: getting you accustomed to the idea that you don't have
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  Speaker 3: a right to privacy, that you don't have privacy, that
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  Speaker 3: you never should have had privacy, and that you never
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  Speaker 3: will again. And if you can be acclimated to that,
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  Speaker 3: if you can be convinced that every infringement on your
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  Speaker 3: privacy is justified by the previous Enfrench infringements. That you
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  Speaker 3: don't have a right to your own space, you don't
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  Speaker 3: have a right to communicate freely with other people, you
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  Speaker 3: don't have a right to your own thoughts. There's an
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  Speaker 3: ultimate conclusion there, you know. Then they they can make
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  Speaker 3: you do whatever they want. They can control you in
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  Speaker 3: any way that they like, and that's the ultimate goal.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have a right to freedom.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, very well said. Again, I'm not sure what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: We may have to consider moving to a different platform
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  Speaker 1: of some kind I don't know, or changing what we
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  Speaker 1: have on our in our discord if we have to.
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  Speaker 1: But Alison needs to know about this because she runs
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  Speaker 1: the Discord, so she'll have to make a call on it.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been able to talk to her all day.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll see. I mean, for now, we're just going
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  Speaker 1: to keep using Discord. I just I just shield it anyway,
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  Speaker 1: just you know, be mindful of that. But I think
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  Speaker 1: that we need alternative platforms and we should always have
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  Speaker 1: something in mind, which is why I'm big on pushing
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  Speaker 1: Rumble on people to check it out, because again, Rumble's
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  Speaker 1: not a ghetto like YouTube is, at least it's less
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  Speaker 1: of a ghetto. So if you guys could get on
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  Speaker 1: Rumble please do. I understand that there's like a new
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: there's like another new video hosting service as well that
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  Speaker 1: is starting to pick up. I gotta like look into it,
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  Speaker 1: but David Lowboy says, look into n O S t R. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but I will look
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  Speaker 1: it up while this show is going. N O S
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  Speaker 1: t R notes and other stuff. Okay, all right, thank
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  Speaker 1: you senior sticks. How about porn Hub? No, I know
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  Speaker 1: there's lots of regular content, but.
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  Speaker 3: H somebody suggested that when we were having difficulty with
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  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Get on the list. I don't think we want that.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine somebody's on there looking for porn and
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  Speaker 3: they run across a stream that just looks like this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, it's like animals talking about politics and men's issues.
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  Speaker 1: You still have Locals, which is connected to Rumble. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I know, but Allison's not quite glombing with Rumble. She's not.
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  Speaker 1: He's not really like getting into it as much. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's there and she's using it, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: like a priority. So you'll have to like Convince Allison
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  Speaker 1: and maybe like push Rumble harder, we could use Rumble
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Studio for example, instead of restreams dot io. And I mean,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I find that it works pretty well. I use it
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: on my channel just to like test the tools, and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I think that it Rumble Studio is very good and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you don't pay anything for it, like it it comes
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: with Rumble, you know, by default, so if you have
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a Rumble premium it's probably even better. But anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that it's there's definitely we got to look
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  Speaker 1: into other options. So and this, by the way, is
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  Speaker 1: coming out. It starts in Law in March, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: we still have like some time to like sort of
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  Speaker 1: reorient if we need to. But let me see if
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  Speaker 1: anyone has sent any superchats through or Superchow's no nothing yet.
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  Speaker 1: Let us know what you guys think about this one
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  Speaker 1: of the comments. Please send a super chat or a
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  Speaker 1: superchow or Rumble rant if you have something to add
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  Speaker 1: to this conversation. I look forward to seeing your thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: With that out of the way, let us move into
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  Speaker 1: the next story. So we have a new chut of
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  Speaker 1: the month and that is Emru. So who is Mru? Well,
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  Speaker 1: A viral clip from twitch streamer Emrus February seventh, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixth live stream sparked widespread controversy when it appeared
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  Speaker 1: to show her dodging a question about immigration and customs
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  Speaker 1: enforcement or ICE, leading to accusations of cowardice and attempts
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  Speaker 1: to remain a political to avoid alienating viewers. Critics on
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  Speaker 1: platforms like x and Reddit labeled her silence as tacit
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  Speaker 1: support for ICE, with political commentator denims who is basically
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  Speaker 1: a wannabe version of Emru a woman a calling her
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  Speaker 1: a racist chud, and others framing her response as an
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  Speaker 1: effort to retain controversial followers. Supporters defended her right to
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  Speaker 1: avoid political discussions, arguing that streamers shouldn't be forced in
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  Speaker 1: the commentary on topics outside their expertise, and that the
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  Speaker 1: backlash exemplified online mob behavior. For the record, Emru is
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  Speaker 1: not a political streamer at all. She is I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know. She's just like a girl online. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know that she has content. I think she eats
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  Speaker 1: food and listens to music like like she's that that's it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: But but she what what kind of music?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I know, but but she does or has
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: done streams with asmen Gold, who is the enemy of
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: these people. Well, but not like only him, like with
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: other streamers amongst you know, one of him being one
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of those other streamers. But anyway, so Amru gave a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you know, if you are asking twitch streamers for political advice,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: then you probably should get off the internet because twitch
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: streamers are not, you know, generally not experts. They're not
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: really like people that you should be going to. And
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: that was what she got in trouble for, because essentially,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you know, there is no such thing as neutrality. There
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is only you are with us, you are against us.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: So in response to all this backlashes, she got Emeru.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: She did the one thing you never do. She posted
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: a lengthy apology and clarification on x on February eighth,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, explaining that the clip was maliciously edited
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to misrepresent her reaction. She was actually responding to an
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: unrelated mod question containing the word Ice, not the agency,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and affirming her position to ICE as a matter of
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: basic human empathy, not politics. She also addressed past associations
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: with controversial figures, stating that she immediately cuts ties, so
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: this is talking about asthma goal. They were like, well,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: why don't you denounce this guy? Let me see reactions. Yeah,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: immediately she cuts ties upon learning of any abusive behavior.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Reactions to her statement were mixed. Some praise it as
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a sincere stand, while critics dismissed it as damage control,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: accused her of lying about the edit, citing the full clip,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and demanded more explicit condemnations like saying fuck Ice. Others
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: advise that she shouldn't have apologized, as it embolded the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: outrage mob to continue pressuring her. That's where I stand
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: on that. Never ever apologize full stop, but anyway go ahead?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Is this council culture two point zero. It wasn't good
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: enough to persecute people for what they say, for the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: socio political opinions they voice. Now they're persecuting people for
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: what they don't say. The right to remain silent, It
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: turns out it's not really a right. It's entirely contingent
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: on who's pulling your strings. You might think you're an
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: independent voice who's not beholden to any captured company, but no,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you are beholden to the mob of merciless, ecophobic terrorists.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Your speech is compelled and stifled at the same time.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I say this like it's a recent development, but this
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: has always been the case in the legacy media. The
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: employees therein must say what their bosses tell them to say.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Their bosses must say what the head office tells them
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: to say, and the head office must say what the
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: shady fuckers in the government tell them to say, or
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: what the shady fuck is like Joyce Soros pay them
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: to say. They shouldn't be lost at anyone that two
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: years ago, under the Biden regime, no one was compelled
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to say fuck Ice, even though Ice existed. It's just
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: that at the time, Ice only consisted of Alejandro Maorchus
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and two female midgets and a penguin. Mayorcus was tasked
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: with shamelessly lying to the public about the border being
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: perfectly secure, while the two female midgets sat in an
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: office pushing papers across the table, and the penguin just
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: wandered off into the mountains. But why, there's some kind
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: of joke in here about literal ice, but I can't
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: think of it. Shut up. The point is people didn't
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: need to say fuck Ice back then, because Ice was
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: already fucked. It had become a feeble, anemic shoe string
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: of department, just like the Democrats always wanted it to be. Like, say,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: we you like about Trump and how he hasn't managed
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: to fix every problem in the space of twelve months,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: but he has at least resurrected the corpse of ice
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: and actually got them actually doing their job. They're still
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: only barely making a dent in the tens of millions
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: of illegals smuggled into the country by the Biden regime,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: but at least they're actually out there now doing something.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: And to the Democrats and their army of smooth brained
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: sacrificial sheep, this is an outrage. An agency doing the
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: bare minimum of what it's supposed to be doing is
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the Gestapo because these people hate Americans and they want
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Americans to work their asses to the bone to pay
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: for their own replacement. They don't just want it, they
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: demand it. They enforce it by mob rule. And if
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you don't say exactly what they tell you to say,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: they will down raids you from a sacrificial sheep to
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: a sacrificial goat. They will cast you out into the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: desert and watch your bones bleaching in the sun. And
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: they have the raw fucking nerve to call you a
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: coward for not saying what they compel you to say.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: They will call you a coward for planting yourself like
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a tree beside the river of truth and telling the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: whole world no you move. And in truth, that Captain
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: America quote doesn't go far enough. In truth, it goes
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: all the way back to the origins of zen. You
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: don't even have to say, no you move. You don't
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: have to say anything, For the mighty tree does not
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: say anything other than the implicit announcement that it is here.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It simply grows so large and so imposing that to
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: even consider cutting it down would be a task so
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: gargantuan us to result only in diminishing returns. Having said that,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: we have evolved beyond trees, we as humans are indeed
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: blessed with the avenue of self defense. We have the
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: ability to speak as we will, and we have the
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: ability to do as we will. And this is why
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: we endeavor to speak softly and carry a big stick,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: and we can go further. We can speak no words
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: at all and carry the entire fucking tree. The metaphor
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Theodore Roosevelt used was obviously referring not to a big stick,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: but to a gun. Such is the American way. Well
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you have a massive gun, America. You have a gun
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the size of a tree. So you don't even need
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: to speak softly. You can merely stand there with your
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: giant gun, proclaiming to the world silently in implication, only
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a five word phrase, the nonverbal equivalent of the world's
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: most powerful phrase, the world's most proud, secure, everlasting, zen
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: maxing phrase. Anyone, it's fuck around and find.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Out, okay. I was like, oh what, yeah, yeah, we see.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: We don't have that phrase in Europe. We don't have
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: access to that sentiment, with the exception of Switzerland. I mean,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: God bless Switzerland. It's like the USA, everyone has a gun.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I wish I could move to Switzerland, but if I did,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: they would stand there silently and shoot me, and God
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: bless them for that. But in the rest of Europe,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: we can't say fuck around and find out. We get
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: as far as fuck around, and then we get stabbed
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and our governments come tell us to say it's my fault.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I got stabbed by that fifty IQ shadow beast from Pakistan.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Don't look back in anger, don't fly the flag of
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: your nation. Just shut the fuck up and get stabbed again.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Remember this, America. I know I say this every other week,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: but it's important. You really are the last bastion of
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the anglosphere where patriotism and self defense are even legal options,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: let alone proud traditions. And when some mob of blue
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: head goons comes out you saying no, you have to
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: say what we tell you to say. For the love
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: of fuck, do not capitulate. For your own sake and
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: for the sake of the rest of the world, for
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the sake of the dominoes that have already fallen against you.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I just want to tell you, good luck. We're all
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: counting on you, and don't call it Shirley.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: You know, if this chick looked like me, if she
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: was fifty year old plus, you know, granny with gray
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: hair and bad teeth, nobody would have cared what she
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: said about this issue. Nobody would have bothered to demand
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: that she sided with them, and nobody nobody would be
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: threatening her with you know, cancelation and all all of
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: the bad things that go along with that, because she
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: wouldn't She wouldn't have had the popularity, she wouldn't have
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: had a platform and that they want and that's pretty much.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: You know, the fact that she as a young person
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: and and she does look pretty young. She can't be
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: anywhere near my age like she she uh was able
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: to be manipulated pretty easily there. All they had to
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: do was threatened to take away a completely immaterial thing.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Unless she's you know, making her entire living on this
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: internet stuff, then it doesn't really matter. Doesn't matter how
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: many people like you, matters the quality of your relationships
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: with the people that you have mutual camaraderie and attachment with.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: But women in general, whether they are you know, some
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: kind of top notch influencer, whether they're making money from
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: eating food and listening to music on the internet, or
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: whether there are just some chick down the street who's
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: posting pictures on Instagram that only a few of her
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: classmates look at and like and and whatever else clique
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: things that you do on Instagram. They can all be manipulated,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: for the most part, by threatening their popularity. Most Most
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: scals don't thrive on how many people have have bullied
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: them and failed at bullying. Most scals thrive on claiming
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: that they're victims of bullying, like I I put, you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: carry notches in my computer of of failed attempts at bullying,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: like you might carry notches in your gun at failed
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: attempts at assassination that you where you shot back and
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: that's why they failed. But most women, most girls, the
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: minute that you make them worry, and you can make
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: them worry, that's the first thing. You can actually make
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: them worry because they don't have the the the intellectual muscle,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: the strength to resist worrying. If you threaten their popularity.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: The minute you make them worry that their their popularity
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: might shrink, they might not get as many thumbs up
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: on on you know, social media, dot com, whatever it is.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: That's it. They're they're they're fucked and they have to
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: do something about it. And they will fold. They will
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: stick their finger up in whichever the way the wind
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: is blowing. They'll bend in that direction. It doesn't matter
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: if it means telling a group of people, yeah, you
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: have to give up your housing so that foreign nationals
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: can be brought in uh to live there, and the
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: government's going to pay your landlord three times as much
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: to house them, just to make sure they'll take those
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: guys and kick you out. It doesn't matter if she's
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: supporting uh, the UH the firing of local workers in
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: order to be able to use workers from other countries
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: that don't defend themselves against exploitation as well. It's it's
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: no problem, you know, no problem, go ahead and support
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: that right until you have every woman in the country
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: supporting it. And as soon as you've got every woman
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: in the country supporting it, the next thing you have,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: you know, your your entire country is taken over and
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: the men are now being told, why didn't you defend
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: that woman from that that that uh a mugger or
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: rapist from from Fukistan or any nation south of the
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: US border that has caravaned its way in here. Uh
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And And of course the answer is they tried. They
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: tried to enforce the borders, and the people who didn't
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: want the borders enforced, that didn't want boundaries enforced, pressured women,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: and women gave into the pressure and bullshit like this,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: and the next thing that you have, you know, women
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: have have allowed these guys to come in and attack them,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: and now they're claiming men don't take care of them,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: men don't protect them. There's pretty much the full circle
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: of what's happened in the UK, and women like this
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: will harbor it in the United States, they'll herald it
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: in This is why women shouldn't vote. This is the
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: reason why men, men should be the ones making the decisions.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Because if you tell a guy, if you defend yourself,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: if you maintain your boundaries, and I won't like you anymore,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I will stop paying attention to you. Most most guys
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: are going to be like, yeah, so fuck you, this
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: is my boundary, don't cross it. And and if you're
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: going to be that way about it, I don't want
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: anything to do with you. Most guys will stand up
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: to that. There are a small number in comparison to
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: the number of women who can be manipulated that way.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: But with women, it's it's the standard, it's the operating model,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: it's it's the basic vehicle before you add all the
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: bells and whistles. Yes, these people can be manipulated by
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: having their popularity threatened. And I hate to say it,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: but it's probably one of the most saddest, sad and
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: pathetic things about being female. Is this, Well, I won't
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: like you anymore. Oh, oh gosh, I better change what
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. Then like you can, you can tell me
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: that all you like, I won't. I won't change a thing.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I won't like you anymore. Okay, bye. But most women,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: most women who fall for this shit are pretty much
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: the reasons why every nation, every Western nation in the
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: world is deteriorating, why every Western nation in the world
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: is being milked to death by exploiters who are able
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: to use playing victim of people's opinions and people's boundaries
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: as a means of breaking them down. So, like I said,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: you know, I hate to say it, I hate to
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: jump on this. You know, poor woman's anti whatever her
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: name is, bandwagon. But I'm not just mad that she apologized,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: and I'm not disappointed either that she apologized. I'm mad
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: that women behave this way, and I'm disappointed that women
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: behave this way because you know, two three hundred years ago,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: there was a much larger contingent of women that would
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: say fuck you know, and you know, over the last
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: few hundred years, this is what women have become. You
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: can completely erase someone's morality, someone's ethics, someone's intellect, someone's
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: ability to determine what's right and wrong in the world
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: and what they should support where they should throw their
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: influence if they're female, just by threatening their popularity. Women
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: have regressed to a level well, I don't think women.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: It's hard to call it regression because there I don't
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: think there was ever a point in history where it
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: was this bad. But women have I don't know, shrunk.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I guess as people as human beings to the point
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: where they are exhibiting a lower level of sapiens than
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: men have. They are not mindful of the consequences of
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: these types of decisions. And I'll say it again, women
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: shouldn't vote. This is why women shouldn't vote.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Rob Schneider did a bit on that. I saw it today.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know how old it is, but he said
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: that women should vote, but not for important things. He said,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: you should vote for the winner of American Idol, or
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: vote for you know what it is we're going to have,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: for what is you're going to have at your pot luck,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: what the theme is going to be, for the baby shower,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: But but not for the president.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I can actually vote a web we're going to eat tonight.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, No, women don't want to vote. That's those
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: are tough questions.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe we should go back to you have to be
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: the head of your household on your tax forms in
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: order to vote.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, I've said for we.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Could say even if you have a household of one,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: you can file us as head of household, just so
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: that every household gets a vote, whether it's a household
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: of one or a household. But if other people live
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: with you, you don't have a household of one. Even
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: if you're single and and you live with your partner,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: your household has a head. Uh so yeah, maybe we should.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: You have to file us the head of household on
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: your taxes or or you don't get to vote. That
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: would eliminate the worst contingent of female voters, honestly, because
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: they're almost all dependent financially on a man.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a it's a you know, we're joking,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: but I've noticed that the jokes are going more and
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: more mainstream.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: So I'm not joking.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: No, I know you're not joking. I mean, I let
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: me put it this way. I don't think it's likely
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: to happen just because we say it, but I do
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: think that it's something that is being talked about more
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: and more.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone should vote when it comes to
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: political matches, let's yeah, do it a way, but JaMarcus
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: still it together and go back to monarchy. I mean,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I'm posing I.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Don't think we should a monarchy either.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Oh let's not. Let's not go down this rabbit hole.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I got more stories against it. Yeah, But I mean, like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: the thing is is that we don't live in a
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: world where we can just not have a government at all.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: We just don't live in that world. Yet. It's gonna
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: take it's gonna take generations of raising people that are
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: actually like not dependent on the state in order for
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: us to get to that point. But we're not there,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and it may never happen and it probably will not
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: happen in our lifetime.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: So you know, I just want to point out the
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: nations that have been monarchy nations, uh, throughout most of
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: their history are the ones that succumbed to the European
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Unions bullshit.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, like you know, like I said, I I
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: like and cap on paper, but it's not it's just
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: not something we can do in practice.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: So there's no think of the steps we've taken to
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: get here. We went from anarchy to monarchy to democracy
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: to including women in that democracy. Maybe we can walk
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: it back baby step at a time and and and
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: then vote, and then no one should vote, and then
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: no kings and then yeah, let's get back to just
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: everyone's house is their own, fucking.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Anyway to bring it back to the top hour Emru.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: You should never apologize to these people. You owe them nothing,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and they're going to hate you because at the end
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of the day, this isn't about whatever it is you said.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: This is ultimately about control and they need you because
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: you're a popular person online. They need you to regurgitate
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: their beliefs back at them so they can turn to
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  Speaker 1: their friends and say, look, these people agree with me.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: They're good people. This is what Hollywood does when they
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: virtue signal they don't know what they're talking about. No
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: one should take them seriously. And I think people are
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: starting to wake up to the fact that, you know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: actors are just their morons. They just regurgitate what they're
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: told to say because it gets them photo ops and
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: it gets them sound bites, and they get to do
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the rounds and they get like their little comment posted
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: on Entertainment Weekly or whatever the website is. People so
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: but they're not saying anything of substance, and they're just
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: using you in the same way. Because as the Hollywood
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: celebrity is dying because it is is, the Internet celebrity
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: is rising, and so Emeru is the new sort of
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence, you know and know we we got to
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: get her opinion on this hot topic. And she doesn't
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: have to give them one. She could pull a Sydney
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Sweetey and be like, when I'm ready to tell you
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: what I think, I'll say something and just leave it
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: at that. But your audience thinks, oh, your silence is violence,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: like you're you're agreeing with these monsters. Plus I've seen
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: you hanging out with this chut over here, so you
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: must be one of them. You don't have to bite
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: take the bait on that tell them to go fuck themselves.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: If they need you to tell them what to think,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: then something's wrong with them obviously.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: So anyway, you know, millennials and zoomers need to take
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: a note from gen X on this. Right when the
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: COVID crisis and scam was occurring and mister T came
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: out and did one of his I Pity to food
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: speeches in support of getting the job, everybody in gen
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: X that was was aware of the problems with the JAB,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: paying attention and and and not intending to subject themselves
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: to it. Didn't change their mind, didn't apologize, didn't be like,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: oh no, one of our icons of television from when
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: we were growing up, one of our heroes, said we
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: have to do this, and we're gonna look bad if
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: we don't do it. They lost respect for mister t.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he was scared, I think trying to get it.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: He probably was. He was scared into it, or or
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: maybe he is one of those guys that bought into everything.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe that was his real, not organic, but manipulated opinion.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people in Hollywood that have consumed
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: the kool aid and then chewed up the package afterward. Right,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: But the point is it made zero difference in the
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: rest of our opinions on the JAB or any other
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: aspect of the like. We didn't care who said what.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Our opinions were determined based on the information that we
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: found and our evaluation of that information, our histories of
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: evaluating information on these subjects. And you know what, the
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: fact that people were trying to badger us to take
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: a particular opinion, and there was such a huge concerted
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: like you must believe this effort actually went against the
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: opinion that they wanted us to have pressure when we
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: react to that kind of pressure by pushing back, not
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: by giving into it. And unfortunately, it seems like the
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: celebrity said this works on millennials and it works on
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: zoomers when it shouldn't. Like the celebrities are saying this,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: it should immediately make you suspicious if whatever this is,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: if there's a widespread support among the establishment, if there's
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: like a huge celebrity ad campaign on social media where
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: they're pretending to just organically believe this stuff and trying
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: to convince you as well, that is a reason for
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: you to presume whatever it is they're promoting to be
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: a bad thing. Start investigating it from the position that
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: you know it looks bad and you're looking for any
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: information to confirm or deny that it's bad whatever it
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: is they're promoting, and go from there. Don't sit here
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: and accept something because some famous person said it, or
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: think that you have to go along with the status
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: quo of beliefs on something because you're famous and it's
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: going to ruin your popularity if you disagree.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I got a rumble rant from Noba
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Fan twenty one. Thank you Noba fan. He says, for
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: a dollar, leftist silence is consent grape, allow me to
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: introduce myself leftist. Wait, that's illegal. Rumble doesn't like rumble rants.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: When I remove the g and grape, appreciate that. Thank you. Well,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you know how it works. It's just it all depends
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: on their idea of what context is. Nothing is real
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: except their perception of reality. But anyway, let us know
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: what you guys think about this one in the comments
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: and speaking of mean girls bullying people there. January twenty
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: twenty six, Press Relief from the Coalition to End Domestic Violence,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: which is end to TODV dot org and organization focus
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: on issues like domestic violence, specifically male victims of domestic violence,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: argues that feminist promotion of women in the workplace based
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: on supposed superior relationship skills has backfired, revealing a global
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: pattern of female bullying, primarily relational, indirect or covert aggression
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that contributes to widespread psychological harm. It claims that this
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: bullying is now linked to a global epidemic of psychosis,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: particularly mass psychosis observed increasingly amongst liberal and progressive women.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: This is actually related to Helen Andrews's essay on the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Great Feminization. When a specific workplace environment or any kind
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: of environment that has that is goal oriented, it could
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: be school or something else, when it reaches a critical
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: mass of women, the entire tone changes and it becomes
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: like less about whatever its goals were, and it sort
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: of reorients itself in a let's say, a hive like
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: a ive like orientation towards the feminine, and you guys
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: have We've talked about many examples of this, but this
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: was another thing, saying that it's like a global epidemic
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: of psychosis. The piece cites commentator Bettina Aren't, who is
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: an Australian I guess he's an mra at Jason at least,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: as documenting the scale of female workplace bullying worldwide, and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: quotes Heather MacDonald's observing a mass female psychosis, attributing it
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: partly to women's higher average eroticism, a well established personality
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: trait difference in psychology. The overall tone critiques feminist ideals
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and frames female aggressiman as an underrecognized driver of societal
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and individual mental health. Decline. There is also relevant and
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: supporting related sources include studies showing bullying victimization roughly doubles
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the odds of psychotic experiences or first episode psychosis, with
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: some evidence of stronger internalizing pathways and females. There's also
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: a global burden analysis indicating that rising DAL wise for
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: bullying attribute anxiety and depression from nineteen ninety to twenty nineteen,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: often higher or increasing more in females. Like I have
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: sources here. There's also research on gener differences in bullying types.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Girls are more relational or they do it on social
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: media and mental health impacts. So, you know, just something
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: that I thought was interesting doing the rounds. But it's
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: kind of like stuff we already knew in a way.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's so. Yeah, women are means to each other.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Look at this.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I noticed that still calling it bullying, which is a
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: child wood.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Harassment is the adult word for an oppression. Is I
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: guess the super ego word for it.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not quite that's not quite accurate. You can
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: bully someone once, you cannot harass someone once. Harassment is
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: a pattern of behavior, and bullying someone wants isn't oppression, but.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: If it results is psychosis.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if it results, it's like it may be a pattern.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Of behavior, but they're still calling it this fucking childish word.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: But I mean, there isn't really a better way to
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: separate those things. I think it's more more reasonable to
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: say that a lot of what they're relegating to bullying,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: which is just just uh, you know, behavior that is
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: abusive but not necessarily violent. H could be described as harassment.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know about oppression, but it could be described
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: as harassment.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, Mike, did you want to say anything else? Or
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: a Hannah, you don't want to say anything about the article?
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: That was the first thing I thought of, just nitpicking
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: on on on uh words and and their implicit.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Meanings.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: But even the people that are pushing back against this
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: still still can't help using euphemisms. And I do have
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: to say, like like punching someone once is not is
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: not bullying, Like demanding someone's lunch money once is not bullying.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: It's that is it is, or it's robbery. But but
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: if you if you meet the definition of bullying, it's bullying.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: It's just not a pattern of bullying. Like this is
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: something that bothers me with people in words. I just
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: had an argument someone that that said that the basically
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: the word oppression should never be used to describe the
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: set of circumstances legally and socially that men face in
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: the world right now. But if you actually read the
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: definition of oppression, that is what it is when when
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: you face inordinate legal restrictions that you know, it gives
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: an entire set of things. So you're oppressed if you're enslaved,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: but you're also oppressed if you don't have the same
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: legal rights as another group of people just because you're
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: you're demographic is different. If your human rights are less
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: protected in your legal system because you're the wrong sex
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: or the wrong race, that is the definition of oppression,
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: and it's correct. We don't need to eliminate terms and
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: stop using terms correctly to describe behavior that is real
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: and documented and visible, because some people misuse them to
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: describe things that don't meet their definition. And I think
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: we're starting to get into a situation where because woke
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: ideologues claim to be oppressed if you know they can't
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: make you obey them, or they claim to be bullied
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: because they can't make you obey them, right, or they
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: claim to be harassed because they can't exclude you from
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: an environment. That then people start wanting to just not
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: use those terms at all, And I think that's just
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: as bad as overusing them.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: I just want us to meet in the middle, Like
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: what men do is oppression and what women do is bullying.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: It's like saying what women like, what men do is
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: domestic abuse and what women do is nagging. Yeah, no,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's neither of these positive or negative extremes.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: It's men and women are both perfectly capable of of
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: doing not ast sh it to each other, whatever the
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: fuck you might call it, and we can at least
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: agree to call it at least similar things.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, there's there's different terms you can use to
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: describe a bully. You can say they're a domineering person.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: You can accuse them of hectoring, you can accuse them
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: of being despotic. But when it comes to you know,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: what what you're talking about, like what the subject matter
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: actually is, I think it's more important to discuss the
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: behavior than the terminology, right, And the behavior is relational aggression.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Relational aggression is the I don't know research term academic
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: term I guess for bullying. That's that's what that is.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Relational aggression. Relational aggression is when you essentially try to
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: dominate somebody else through social manipulation and social exclusion and
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. And that's how that's how girls bully.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: They don't stand over somebody in in the bathroom and
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: say I'm gonna stick your head in the toilet and
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: flush it. They're they're going to stick your social life
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: in the toilet and flush it. For the same reason
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: that I described when when responding to the U the
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: cancelation story, right, the apology story, and the reason that
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: relational aggression works is because women allow it, Women promote it,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: women keep it fed and cultivate it, maintain it the
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: way that men maintain robes. Because they keep it in
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: their back pocket in case they need to use it
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: the whole time, even if they claim to be victims
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: of it, they'll keep it in their back pocket themselves,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: and you know, just in case some other woman comes
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: along or some guy who has less defenses against it,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: decides to get all upity and want to be, you know,
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: independent of their control. They've got that relational aggression in
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: their back pocket they can use against him to force
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: him to comply with their interests, and it works all
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: too often, and especially in the workplace, especially when women
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: can go to the women in the human resources department
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: and say, this guy isn't picking up my slack, that's harassment,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: and get him fired. And we've got a listener that's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: been talking about that quite a bit in a chat
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: almost every show, reminding you that happened to him. He
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: had a female coworker, his workplace is mostly male because
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: women mostly can't even do his job, can't even handle
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: the part that the one woman in his workplace did.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: But because he wasn't willing to pick up the slack
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: of the woman who couldn't do the whole job, that
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: relational aggression got him fired. That is how women bully
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: in the workplace. And that is oppressive because your human
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: rights are not as protected, your civil rights are not
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: as protected. They're protected from being fired because you're a guy.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Even if they engage in this type of uh, you know,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: relational aggression, But you know, a dude who is experiencing
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: that relational aggression has very little recourse. The response from
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: the employer is, what did you do? To deserve it.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: It's the same response that you get when you talk
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: about your partner hitting you if you're if you're a guy,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: what did you do to piss her off?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: The same response you get if you know you you
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: complain about being taken advantage of by a woman while
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: you were drunk, Well, you must have wanted it. You
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: must have given her some reason to believe you were interested.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: You probably consented. Oh, when she pushed you, you rolled onto
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: your back because you are unconscious and you had no
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: muscle control. That's consent. Clearly you are opening up for her. Right.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: This is how society treats men who are the victims
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: of any degree of aggression from a woman, whether it's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: relational or physical or sexual. And the balance of it,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: if you can call it, that, is that men have
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: stopped engaging with women in the workplace. Women said, leave
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: us alone, or will report you and you will get fired.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: So men are leaving them alone. And what are they
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: doing now? They're complaining that men won't mentor them. Don't
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: man explain to us, don't talk to us. But if
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: you won't mentor us, we're going to cry discrimination. Right,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: How dare you not man's plain. We told you not
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: to man's plain, but that doesn't mean you get to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: not man'splain when we want you to mansplain, right, And
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: man's plaining, by the way, women will say it's telling
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: women things they already know. But anytime a man describes
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: his own experience of something, women dismiss it as man's plaining.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm such a victim. I broke my leg. Oh,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: I know exactly how you feel. I broke my leg
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. That's man'splaining. That's that's what
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: you get. So when it comes down to this bullying,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: then it comes down to this kind of behavior. I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: don't blame men for being defensive, and when it comes
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: down to women in the workplace who don't fit in
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: with that, women who can't be plastic to reference the movie,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I suck at being plastic. And it's not because I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: don't know how to do it. I can imitate it.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: I've analyzed quite a bit of it. I can mimic it,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: and I can strategize it. And you know all that.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: It's just I'm lazy. I hate doing it. It's too
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: much work, and I don't like what it does to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: the people around me, so women like me end up.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Let's see twenty nineteen, I got assaulted by another woman
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: at work for not being plastic, and then the next
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: manager that came in decided that, of course I must
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: have been the problem, even though the other girl was
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: the one that was violent, and she was like half
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: my age too, so it was embarrassing for me for
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: violence to have taken place. But I guess she hadn't
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: grown out of that yet, and that manager spent six
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: years trying to prove I was the asshole, to the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: degree that she engaged in a gossip campaign about me.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: This is my manager. Guys engaged in a gossip campaign
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: about me. Every new employee that came in, she warned
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: them about me. And I know this because all the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: male employees that worked under her told me, so, why
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: did she warn me about you? You're fine? And then
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: came the narcissist. And the narcissist was a foreign national
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: who had to be the most praised person in the workplace.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: If she was not the most praised person in the workplace,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: then she was under attack. And since the people I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: take care of their families like the job I do
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: because I'm focused on making sure that my clients are
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: happy and safe and well cared for, and everything that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be doing gets done. And when I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: walk out the door, the place looks the way it's
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: supposed to look. It's satisfying. And it's not really about
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: being praised or getting kudos. It's just about making sure
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: that when this person comes home from their daily activities,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: they're not coming home to a mess. They're coming home
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: to an organized and clean and safe environment that they
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: can relax in, just like you or me can relax
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: in our homes because our homes are the way we
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: want them to be. And you, like, it's not about
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: the worker, it's about the person that we're doing the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: work to take care of. And apparently that pisted her off.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: And for two years, like the last two years of
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: my work environment, I had a matrix and I couldn't
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: talk about this either till that manager left. But I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: had this matrix of rules to accommodate this woman that
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: were things like, you can't do this part of your
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: job anymore. Other people didn't have that rule, they still
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: could do the job. But then if I didn't do it,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you know, why isn't this
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: getting done? Well? Because I was the one doing it.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Now it's not getting done. And you know this this
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: continued for actually it was four years now I think
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: about it, because it was two years of that with
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: that lady then and then she self deported moved to
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: another country, like the country that she came from, when
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: she realized that she couldn't force me to change and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: forced me out of the workplace. And then the manager
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: continued to enforce those rules for two years after she left,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: until the manager left. And now the new manager is
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out why the fuck all these rules
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: are in place, and you know, I explained a little
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: bit to her and she just kind of shook her
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: head and she's like, well, let's just dump all those
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: this is ridiculous. So you do get some women in
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: the workplace who can be reasonable and rational, and they're
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: very valuable, you know, because they can restore order in
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: the workplace. You can just do the job and get
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: it done, make sure that the goals of the job
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: are being met, that the individuals that you're taking care of,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: or the things that you're building or the you know,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: construction that you're doing, the cleaning that you're doing, the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: repair work that you're doing, the transportation that you're doing,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: whatever your job is, making sure people get electricity into
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: their house, making sure that kids know how to do math,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: that that task is accomplished, that goal is accomplished, instead
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: of stroking everybody's egos all the time. Unfortunately, the workplace
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: because it is full of women who were not raised
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: to think that it's shameful to stroke your own ego
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: and expect other people to stroke your ego all the time.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Because it's full of those women, it's always going to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: be like this until it becomes a shameful thing in
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: our society to care more about your pull in the workplace,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: or how much praise you're getting in the workplace, or
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: what everybody thinks of you outside of their satisfaction with
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: your performance in the workplace. As long as it's acceptable
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: for women to behave like that, this will never improve,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: and there will always be this kind of bullying. There
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: will always because they'll get away with it right, always
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: be able to use. You know, I'm the cute one,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: I'm the small one, I'm the one of a different color.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: I'm female and this person's male. I'm the more feminine
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: one whatever to get away with that kind of aggressive behavior,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: and sometimes keeping your head down and just powering through,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: following whatever crazy rules that are applied to you and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: doing the job despite all of that. We'll get you
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: through it if you're female. But most of the time,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: if you're a dude and you experience something like that,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: your absolute two best bets are either find another job
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: and get out of there as soon as you possibly can,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: or document the absolute fuck out of everything you know
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: if she so much as walks past your desk in
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: farts every time she walks past, document it, and then
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: go to a lawyer, because you cannot win that battle
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: by doing what I did, because you're a dude and
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: you're automatically the bad guy until proven otherwise. So that's
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: my best advice.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let us know what you guys think
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: about that one in the comments. I did get a
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: super chow from Meredith je who gives us five dollars.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Meredith, and says HBr News number five thirty nine,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: honey for the Badgers. One of the other reasons why
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: relational aggression works is because it also hides accountability because
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: the bully is using proxies to do their work bullying.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, yep.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Women often use proxies to do stuff and usually those
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: are men a lot of times, so they make appeals
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: to men to do their dirty work for them. So
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: in a way, this mean girl's image that I used
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: is not really the full picture because women will often
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: use men as their proxies. But I just like the movie.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: You know, a girl that assaulted me used a cop
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: as her proxy. Yeah, and she she did engage in
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: the physical violence herself.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: And this was another one. Some narcissists their ego is
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: around getting praised, like the one that I was more
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: descriptive of. Right, this other this other girl was narcissistic too.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Her she didn't have to have praise, she didn't have
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: to be like patted on the back and told good job.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: But if she received any kind of criticism or or
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: even just support, that was critical criticism adjacent that that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: resulted in a meltdown. And it took me because it
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: wasn't you know, the the praise me, praise me type
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: of narcissist. It took me until after the assault before
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: I recognized it. But as soon as the officer arrived,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: she went from tough girl trying to beat up on
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: a middle aged granny too, you know, poor innocent doe eyed,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: tearie eyed qutie pie. And I mean this, this girl
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: was as cute as a kitten. And h then that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: that resulted in her getting away with the situation because
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: instead of charging her with assault, uh, he charged us
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: both with disorderly conduct. And I had to actually fight
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: that and get it expunged from my record, and it
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: was pretty obvious to everybody else. I mean, I got
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: an apology from a judge for that, even though the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: judge wasn't involved in anything other than me going in
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: and filing emotion to expunge it. But it was It
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: was quite an experience because I knew that stuff and
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: in high school and I knew women could do that stuff,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: but I never experienced it at that level that personally
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: until that incident. And if I had been male, I
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: probably would have been charged with assault. And the thing
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: that he used is the basis for that was me
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: trying to get away from her when she had shoved
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: me up against the wall and was hitting me. It's
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: like I kept saying, I didn't want to hit her.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to hurt her. So I just tried
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: to push my way out of the hold and get
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: away from her, And so he took that as you
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: pushed her because you were fighting, and you were in
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: a fight, and it was your fault. And if I'd
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: have been a guy, it would have been even worse,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: because I know of at least one guy that did
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: eighteen months in jail for try brushing past a woman
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: his shoulder touched her shoulder on his way out of
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: a room where she was throwing heavy knickknacks at him.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: It's easy to assume that we deal with all our
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: problems by saying orange man bad, But what about pink girls?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Bad?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Pink I've just been staring at this image for so long,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: and I'm like.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, people are so jealous of me.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: I can help it that I'm popular.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, it's it's difficult to quantify how many
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: of our problems result in pink girls. Yes, let's move on, all.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna move on to the next story. Let
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: us want guess thing about this. One of the comments
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, So yeah, all right, let's let's see here.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Just gonna set this up really quick, all right, so
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I need to put an image up there, so we're
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: gonna so in a reason, this is just ending on
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: us something somewhat of a lighter note. In a recent
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: interview with Empire Magazine published early this month, director Travis
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Knight discussed his upcoming live action Masters of the Universe film,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: set for release on June fifth of twenty twenty six,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: So it's the summer release from Amazon, MGM Studios and Mattel.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Knight praised Jared Leto's approach to portraying the iconic villain Skeletor,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: noting that Leto, who approached the project unprompted due to
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: his personal affection for the character, wanted to swing for
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: the fences and create his own interpretation somehow, not recognizing
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: that Jared Leto is box office cancer, but they keep
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: giving him work. And also bear in mind, Mattel is
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: the same company that owned the rights to Barbie, so
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: it should come to no surprise that Night described the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: original cartoon Skeletor as cool, scary, funny, insecure, and possessing
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: a distinctive voice, elements that provided rich material for Leto.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: He affirmed satisfaction with the final take, stating Skeletor is
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: kind of the embodiment of toxic masculinity, framing the character
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: as a representation of harmful masculine traits like insecurity, driven aggression,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: dominant seeking, an emotional suppression in the villain villainous context.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I don't like, I like. The comment has sparked mixed
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: reactions online, with some outlets and fans highlighting it as
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: a modern interpretive lens on the classic antagonist who you
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: know just seeks power and conquest over Eternia, while others,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: particularly in communities like Reddit's Kotaku Inaction or YouTube analysis,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: criticized it as unnecessary politicization overreach on a campy nineteen
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: eighties property. Knight also defended Nice also defended keeping Skeletor's
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: literal skull face in insisting, fuck that shit, Skeletor has
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: a skull face. Well, thank God for that. At least
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get that to stay true to the source material.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: The statement ties into broader promotional buzz for the film,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: which features Nicholas gal Zine as he Man Prince Adam,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: and has already released a teaser trailer showing their confrontation. Okay, Mike,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: I know you want to say something, Bro, This hits
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: me where I live for real.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: I've been a fang boy if he Man since I
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: was three. Before that, my first ever memory on this earth,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: in this life involved my he Man toys when I
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: was three, So this could not possibly be deeper into
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: my willhouse. You have to seriously hit a nerve some
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna get some. He Man played on two
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: fundamental tropes. Firstly, that there can be a clid delineation
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: between good and evil, and secondly, that this conflict can
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: be played out in the realm of masculine anthropomorphism. I mean,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: he was called he Man, and literally every male character
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: had a ripped roid, raging, hypermasculine physique. Now, neither of
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: these tropes is a strict reflection of reality. It was
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: all very much fantasy for the sake of play, of playing.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: And the theme of Masters of the Universe is of war.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: It's a planetary, spiritual, and kinetic war. In reality, war
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: is never just a case of good versus evil. It's
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: just that both sides must necessarily think of themselves as
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: good and think of their opponents as evil. In real
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: no military force thinks of itself as evil. Skulls or
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: no skulls. There are some individual psychopaths who will concede
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: that they are entirely self serving agents of want and destruction,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: but there is no individuality when it comes to war.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: An army does not cohere as a collective. An army
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: that does cohere as a collective that does not cohere
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: as a collective will never win against an army that
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: does work together as a well oiled machine, because with
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: pure individuality, there is no army. It's just a disorganized
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: cloud of chaos. It's the same with the Warhammer thing.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: The evil faction is called chaos, and it is characterized
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: by chaos would never happen In reality, life itself is
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: not chaos. It is order. Even if the life forms
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: in question are technically undead and therefore not alive, like
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: they're all zombies and skeletons and chaos warriors and whatever
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: creature lies under the chaos armor, they're still organized, and
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: organization is the opposite of chaos. If they were truly chaotic,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: the zombies and skeletons and chaos warriors would just kill
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: each other before the war had even started. So yeah,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: it's the stuff of fantasy. It's a performative representation of
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: the fight between order and chaos, between life and the
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: disorganized caprice of nature. The disorganized caprice of nature is
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: you know, volcanoes and hurricanes and tsunamis and death and
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: famine and pestilence and yes, war itself. The disorganized caprice
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: of nature does not have armies. I'm sure as fuck
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: is not led by an actual muscle bound blue man
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: with a skull for a face. What skeleton represents is
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: indeed toxicity, because toxicity is something unambiguously destructive. Toxins existed
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: in non biological nature before life ever existed, and then
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: some life forms harnessed the power of toxicity in order
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: to destructively poison those who would threaten their equilibrium. Yes,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: that is indeed the point. And skeletor is indeed masculine,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: because this was a range of toys that was marketed
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: specifically to boys by Mattel by the way, as Brian
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: potted out, the company that had spent the two previous
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: decades marketing Barbie to girls. What do little girls like?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: They like to play with hyper feminine characters who just
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: stand there wearing clothes and sit there having tea parties
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: and doing nothing. Yeah, and that's fine. But only by
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: the eighties did Mattel gather around and start brainstorming ideas
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: as to what little boys like. Little boys like hyper
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: masculine characters who engage in spiritual wars between the forces
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: of good and evil. And pardon my controversy, but I
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: think that's fine too, and it necessarily involves a force
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: of good looks masculine and the force of evil that
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: looks masculine. And boys would play with these toys fully
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: understanding that skeleton is the bad guy and he manages
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: the good guy. So it's not that skeleton represents unique masculinity.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: It's that skeleton represents unique toxicity. He is not the
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: toxic masculine. He is the masculine toxic. So that sounds
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: arbitrary and interchangeable, but it's not. Masculinity is the theme
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: that boys find relatable. Toxicity is the subcategory that boys
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: find abstract, just like with Just like with transformers, robots
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: are the theme that boys find relatable. Toxicity is the
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: subcategory that boys find abstract. Machine toxicity such as se dude,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: It's not a tangible reality, it's a fictional characteristic of
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: the Decepticons, and it was only ever fictional machines are
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: not inherently evil. It's just something that we imagine so
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: that we can play out these war games with machines
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: as the theme. I suppose the elephant in the room
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: is why are there no evil characters in the Barbie franchise.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: The midwit interpretation would be that there are no evil women,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: that there are no toxic women, and that does appear
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: to be where the midwit mind has landed when it
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: comes to these things. Never mind the existence of the
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: he Man character Evil Lin, who was literally called Evil Lin.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know which actress is playing her or if
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: she's going to tap into her toxic femininity in order
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: to inhabit that character. We'll probably get a spin off
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: of the story of Evil Lynn and how she was
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: never really evil, she was just driven to it against
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: her will by Skeleton's thrall calling it now, by the way,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: after the debacle of Kevin Smith's rebooted he Man cartoon
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: where he Man died and Teylor fully embraced her main
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: character Syndro, it would not fucking surprise me where they
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: go next. Evil Lynn, she was always a good guy,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: and she's going to defeat all the men on both sides.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: But the point is, there is no villain in the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Barbie franchise. But that's not because there are no evil women.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: It's because little girls aren't particularly interested in delineating between
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: good and evil, between order and chaos. To them, it's
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: all the same. To them, it's whoever is the prettiest
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: should be in charge, and it's all relative. It's all
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: about novelty. Whoever turned up most recently with the latest
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: trendy clothing accessory should be the most powerful entity in
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: the power dynamic. Look, this Bobby has a new hat.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: That is why modern midwits have no concept of the
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: toxic feminine because they don't know what it is. They
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: can't conceive of what it might be. But yeah, there
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: you go. That's what it is. It's the amoral worship
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: of contemporary consensus. When a new he Man toy came out,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: it was either a goodie or a baddie, and boys
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: would proceed to add it to whichever army it belonged.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: When a new Barbie comes out, it is always the goody.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: Everyone else was the baddie. In comparison, the newest thing
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: is the best thing, and the oldest thing is the
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: worst thing. Needless to say, it would be nice if
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: little girls eventually grew out of this mindset, this this
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: i'm gonna say it, toxic mindset, just like it would
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: be it would be nice if men grew out of
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: the of the mindset that humans can be neatly delineated
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: into good and evil. But we found ourselves in a
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: rather dark amalgamation of these childish mindsets, wherein men have
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: decreed that all men are the baddies and all women
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: are the goodies. While women agree with this, but women
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: have also decreed that it very much depends on the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: novelty that those boring white men that have always been
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: here are the baddies, while those exotic foreign men with
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: the different hats are the goodies. I put it to you,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, that if there be any evil, if
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: there be any toxicity in men or in women, that
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: it is precisely that it's when boys and girls fail
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: to grow out of their childish paradigms of morality, and
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: they live the rest of their lives pushing men into
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: eternal wars and pushing women into eternal tea parties where
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: those women casually discuss how to push men into eternal wars.
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  Speaker 2: I have much to say about this. I have probably
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  Speaker 2: got three dissertations and a thesis in me. But for
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  Speaker 2: the sake of time, I will stop, because it's been
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: an hour and a half talked around in account mons
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: and radio.
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  Speaker 1: You certainly didn't you certainly elaborated, and you didn't just leave.
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  Speaker 3: It's all in the difference between how boys play and
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: how girls play. Right, girls don't want. Nobody wants to
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  Speaker 3: play the bad guy as a girl, but boys will
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  Speaker 3: revel in it. I get to be the villain, You
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  Speaker 3: get to be the good guy today, and we'll switch
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  Speaker 3: places next time. And hell, in my neighborhood, the boys
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: invented a game that is essentially tag, but instead of
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: one person being in, it's a free for all. And
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: and instead of tagging each other with your fingers, you're
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: pointing little plastic replicas of guns at each other and shooting.
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  Speaker 3: And and if you somebody is pointing at you and
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: they shoot, you have to fall down and die and
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: be dead for ten minutes, and then you get back
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: up and then you can play again. And that was
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: nobody was a bad guy, and everybody was a bad
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: guy in that one. But they don't have to be
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: the boy boss. There's no such thing as a boy boss.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: There's only a girl boss, right, they don't have to
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: be and then everything is awesome situation where the reason
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: everything is awesome is because everybody has to get praised
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: and everybody has to get their their interests coddled and
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: so on. Girls do that, right, So girls have to
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: be the ones that you can't have a villain, although
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: Barbie movies have villains. But you know, I'm sure somebody
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: will correct us on that, but it's not the same
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: thing because Barbie Barbie didn't come from a cartoon or
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: a movie. He men came from a story. Barbie's stories
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: came from the existence of the toy, and the toy
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  Speaker 3: the system that under which the toy is produced really
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: never did have a villain. You can't call a girl
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: a villain to get upset, right, And even Disney villains,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: the female Disney villains had to be redeemed. They had
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: to have backstories that you had to be sympathetic to
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: so that you couldn't be and the wicked Witch to
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: the West had to have a backstory that you could
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: be sympathetic to, because when women do bad things, it
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  Speaker 3: can't be because they're bad people, whereas men, you know,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: boys and men, they'll take accountability that, oh, I've got
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: bad characteristics. That's why I did something bad. So if
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  Speaker 3: I fix that characteristic, my behavior will follow. That's the
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  Speaker 3: first thing. The second thing is this whole concept of
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: toxic masculinity. HBr Talk did a whole investigation and discussion
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  Speaker 3: on this. I think in our first year.
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  Speaker 1: Of that.
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  Speaker 3: We still had Alison and Karen regularly on HBr Talk
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: together with me at that time, and I think we
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: had I think in a cherry was in that episode too,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: because we all did sort of look into various aspects
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: of it, the history, the characteristics that are attributed to it,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: and so on. And one of the things that we
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: figured out and you know, pointed out besides the fact
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: that the idea of toxic masculinity was invented by a
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: person experiencing gender dysphoria, for whom the experience of masculinity
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: felt like a prison, regardless of whether the traits were
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: toxic or not, but the actual characteristics that are attributed
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: as toxic masculinity are not necessarily masculine. Both sexes engage
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: in them things like using violence instead of diplomacy to
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: get what you want. That's not masculine, that's immature. Boys
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: and girls do it. Toddlers of both sexes do it.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: In fact, a sign of maturity is that you have
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: started to grow out of using violence to get what
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: you want and use diplomacy instead, right, And the diplomacy
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: is finding mutual agreeable ground, mutual way of negotiating with
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: each other for when win situation for both sides. It's
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: not relational aggression. That's still aggression, So it's not necessarily masculinity.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: Even things like well, men don't go to the doctor
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: because they think they have to be stoic. It's usually
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: women who demand that men be stoic. And I know
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: my fair share of stoic women too. Gat you try
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: asking me when was the last time I went to
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: the doctor. I try not to do that. I don't
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: like being in there. And it's not necessarily just stoicism,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: it's in stubborn independence. Right. So all of these things,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: if you were to go point by point and look
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: at every item on the list of traits that feminists
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: call toxic masculinity. Or the list of characteristics are behaviors
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: social attitudes that feminists call toxic masculinity. They're exhibited by
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: both sexes, and both sexes impose them on men, and
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: both sexes treat them as honorable or respectable when women
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: do them, and so I don't think that it's fair
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: to call it masculinity at all. Those toxic traits are
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: just immaturity. And the difference is when men are immature,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: everybody notices. People will say, you know, this guy's just
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: a little man baby, right, Oh, he's refusing to grow up,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: perpetual child peter Pan syndrome. There's all kinds of negative
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: things to say about a guy who is childish, not
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: to be confused with childlike, Not to be confused with
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: a guy who's completely innocent because he's got a disability,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: or a guy who maintains a boyish sense of humor.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: There's a few positive things that can be said about
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: a guy who is positively useful, right but women, when
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: women are childish, you can't say that about them. If
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: you do, you're a misogynist. Nobody gets called a misinterest
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: for noticing that. For instance, it's childish for man to
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: refuse to work even if he can, and rely on
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: his parents well into his thirties or forties or whatever age,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: to just whole sale support him when there's plenty of
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: opportunity for him and stuff and plenty of capability, right,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: not a disabled guy. Nobody calls somebody misinterest for criticizing
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: that guy and saying, you know, why don't you just
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: go get a job? What's wrong with you? But if
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: a woman does the same thing, and she is criticized
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: as a perpetual little girl who refuses to grow up,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: and you can't even call her an old maid, she
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: gets to my age and she's not married, you can't
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: even call her an old maid without getting called a misogynist.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: Society accepts childishness from women. From men, we refer to
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: it as toxic, and that is the real story of
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: toxic masculinity. It's not that there are aspects of masculinity
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: that are positive and aspects of masculinity that are toxic.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: It's that there is much more tolerance for childishness when
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: women do it, and so it's viewed as a masculine trait.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: When a large number of men engage in it in
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: any way. No, I'm senior six. I'm not calling myself
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: an old maid. I'm married. An old maid is a
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: woman who gets never gets married. Back in like back
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: in the day they would have called a guy who
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: never got married might get called a bum. A woman
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: who never got married might get called an old maid.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: All right, A servant. By the way, a hero is
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: also a kind of yes, So to call yourself a
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: maid is like calling yourself a hero.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: There you go, There you go, ladies, your your heroes
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: in in development. All right. So I got a super
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: chat from Albatross four nine two zero for five dollars,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: and he says, I just want to hear skeletor call
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: someone a blithering boob. I don't have that SoundBite. I'll
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: give you the woman one again.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: He says this in the movie. I don't think, you know,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: I really wanted to say it, you know. You know.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: So I think that they're basically they're gonna unintentionally create
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: the best character that everyone's gonna be everyone's favorite. It's
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be like Ken all over again, you know, where
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you guys, aren't you're you're you're not
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: reacting the way you're supposed to. You're not supposed to
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: like him, and I think that men are just gonna
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: embrace it.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: So you know, you know about Bench, you brothers, right?
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have all the episodes. I didn't I
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: didn't watch like the movie, but yeah, I watched most
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: But the Monarch has exactly the same voice as Skeleton. Yes,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: And that's that's how you do a villain voice. It's
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: it's someone who it's it's someone who's a little bit squeaky,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit high pitched, because because uh, we somehow
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: recognize that toxic masculinity is in fact, uh feminine, males feminine.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: And also like they always sound like they're shouting and grandstanding,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: whereas the men who are heroes don't necessarily like obviously
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: in trophy things, you know there will there will be
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: the hero voice, but you know, it's which the tick
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: explains best, but from the diaphragm.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: Of course, in old school hero movies, a lot of
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: times the hero is very soft spoken and and doesn't
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: have to to posture, doesn't have to bloviate, right, It
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: just backs up what he has asserted with action. And
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: that's also another like the They refer to it as
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: little Man syndrome. Even if you're not a little bit,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: if you feel un insecure about your position, your whatever,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: your assertions, you know, you bloviate and you yell, and
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: you project a false image of competence and security and stuff.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: And if you're more secure in what you're saying, you
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: don't have to do any of those things because it
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: stands for itself.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: Skeletal will return.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna wrap it up here and
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: what Mike, sorry.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: Skeletal will return to deliver uncomfortable truths.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, to deliver uncomfortable truths. We're gonna wrap the show
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• 1:42:48
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