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NFL Week 13 DFS Takedown Breakdown | December 2, 2024 | DraftKings DFS Lineup Review and Analysis · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: that and more. We will be looking at the stone.
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  Speaker 1: I really have a bone to pick with some just
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  Speaker 1: on some of these things, so I'm going to talk
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  Speaker 1: to that. Like the Chase Brown situation. Day is we
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  Speaker 1: have enough conversation around that, but let's start with the
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  Speaker 1: perfect lineup and the chat's talking about the thumbnail graphic
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  Speaker 1: we got. Russell Wilson. I know you watched the show yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: You heard me, Man, I was close on this. I said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't the stone can't get me on it, the
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  Speaker 1: stack rankings can't get me on it. But I said,
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  Speaker 1: it just feels like it could be a way to
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  Speaker 1: play this game a little bit different. And sure enough
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  Speaker 1: it ended up being what you needed to have here.
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  Speaker 1: So again, other guys Bryce Young Jaden Daniels got their
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  Speaker 1: in tournament winners, but this was the optimal stack ads
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  Speaker 1: walk us through.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, first thing I stand out to me, and I
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  Speaker 3: think this is kind of where what you were alluding
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  Speaker 3: to on the Sunday Show is, Man, these Bengals games
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  Speaker 3: just feel like they shootout because this Bengals defense is
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  Speaker 3: just absolutely horrendous. People can say analytics wise whatever they
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  Speaker 3: want to say, Oh they're getting better, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Russell Wilson, just let you guys up. I
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  Speaker 3: mean this defense or well, so, hey, that's something that
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  Speaker 3: tucking the kind of back pocketbook, right and kind of
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  Speaker 3: tuck that back in the little temple's tidbits in the
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  Speaker 3: back of your mind, right and just remember, hey, these
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  Speaker 3: Bengals games, it doesn't matter outside inside where it is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, these things just shoot out, and especially when
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  Speaker 3: you got Joey b on the other side, right, that
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  Speaker 3: can push the pace with guys like Jamar Chase Right,
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  Speaker 3: t Higgins, Chase Brown, who's.
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  Speaker 2: Super dynamic, super explosive.
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  Speaker 3: So first thing that stands out to me right here
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  Speaker 3: is how well, how could somebody get to a guy
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  Speaker 3: like Naje Harris right?
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  Speaker 2: Throw the Russell Wilson stuff aside.
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  Speaker 3: But that's also a pivot in a very very very
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  Speaker 3: popular range right there.
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  Speaker 2: But number one, the Chase Brown pivot right, throw the
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  Speaker 2: Chase Brown side he should have. I mean, Chase Brown
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  Speaker 2: literally should have new slate yesterday. But that's besides the point.
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  Speaker 3: He's sixty two hundred right, same game, other side of
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  Speaker 3: the game, Naje Harris. That's how you get to a
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  Speaker 3: play like that. You leverage the field, Russell Wilson. Who
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  Speaker 3: else is in that range? Justin Herbert Anthony Richardson right,
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  Speaker 3: Gino Smith, tons of guys that other people are going to.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody wants to go to Russell Wilson, mind you. In
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  Speaker 3: a forty six point total, which is what the fourth
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  Speaker 3: best on the slate, and we didn't have massive crazy totals.
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  Speaker 3: The only high massive total was the Baltimore game right,
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  Speaker 3: and you guys kind of pinpointed that all the pieces
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  Speaker 3: are super expensive.
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  Speaker 2: Both of these teams have very good running games. They
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  Speaker 2: can just slowly game down right and run it. So
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  Speaker 2: from a total standpoint, that was good. And then I
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  Speaker 2: mean it was just good plays around that, right.
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  Speaker 3: The Mike Evans Bucky Irving, We're gonna see that combo
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  Speaker 3: pack a ton on all the review winning lineups right
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  Speaker 3: that it's literally the condensed the whole offense there, if
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  Speaker 3: you're not playing Kate Otten while yeah, I mean Bucky
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  Speaker 3: Irving and Mike Evans is the whole offense there, So
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  Speaker 3: like that a ton and then the Parker Washington is
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  Speaker 3: just a nature.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he just falls in there.
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  Speaker 3: But guess who else was at thirty nine hundred mega
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  Speaker 3: chalk right eighty Mitchell? Right, everybody wanted to play Ady
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  Speaker 3: Mitchell Anthony Richardson, so you could get to someone like this.
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  Speaker 3: You're probably not getting to this X main build here,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean I think the million Maker was the
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  Speaker 3: twenty dollars million maker was.
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  Speaker 2: What two hundred and oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually.
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  Speaker 2: Points off the perfect lineup.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean that just shows you you can definitely
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  Speaker 3: get to somewhat similar to a build like this, right,
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  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of leverage built into this lineup
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  Speaker 3: if you were to kind of build this based on
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  Speaker 3: what the slate looked like yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to Chase Brown, sack and other
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  Speaker 1: thing you mentioned too, like the Parker Washington right place,
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  Speaker 1: wrong guy Brian Thomas, who still had a good game,
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  Speaker 1: and it was funny he almost had a bomb that
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  Speaker 1: he walked in. The next play catches a fifty six
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  Speaker 1: or sixty three yard or something that's not a touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: but the play before could have been a walk in
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  Speaker 1: touchdown for just as many yards or more. But I
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  Speaker 1: will say that, you know, Parker Washington's just a product
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  Speaker 1: of that right, ended up in a different spot, different
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  Speaker 1: price tag. Also, just a note on thousand bucks down
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  Speaker 1: to Bryce Young, nine hundred bucks up to Adam theeln
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  Speaker 1: and then you have like a mini game stack, a
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  Speaker 1: single skinny stack with Bryce Young and Thling. You still
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  Speaker 1: have Evans and Irving on the other side. It's not
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  Speaker 1: really that weird. After that, then it's just the flip
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  Speaker 1: of Nase. But Nase could have been Chase Brown for
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  Speaker 1: six points less or whatever, and you could have moved
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  Speaker 1: your defense around off of facing against Beijon. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not that crazy what it landed on here. It's just
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  Speaker 1: kind of the nature of the slate and the way
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  Speaker 1: that it played out. But a lot of these plays
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  Speaker 1: made sense, and we'll see a recurring theme like you
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  Speaker 1: had a piece of Jaden or even some of the
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  Speaker 1: winning lineups had Jaden McLaurin, who talked about this on
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  Speaker 1: the show yesterday. One person he just kept saying it,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why I said, when who will say stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that, it's more times than not it's correct, and
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  Speaker 1: you got to take notes and think about that. I
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  Speaker 1: was on Jayden, he was in my main core on
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  Speaker 1: the site, so I loved the combination but didn't quite
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  Speaker 1: get all the other pieces there. But I just think
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  Speaker 1: this is a fine setup. Maybe people weren't getting to Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: I liked them a little bit in that game. Thought
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  Speaker 1: he was fine. But even if you had like a
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  Speaker 1: four K Henry here for New England, I know he
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  Speaker 1: got injured and stuff, but it was like still, what
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  Speaker 1: was it twelve or eleven or thirteen or somewhere in
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  Speaker 1: that range.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, you got fourteen, you scored fourteen and a half,
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  Speaker 3: so I mean four points off, you still win the
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  Speaker 3: MILLI yeah, we.
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  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about here, and I'll give just you know,
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  Speaker 1: a piece of the process. Obviously this show can't get
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  Speaker 1: into all of it completely, but like people keep fading
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  Speaker 1: stuff just to fade it. Chase Brown and I know
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  Speaker 1: he didn't even end up on the winning lineup, so
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  Speaker 1: it's not even being results oriented. But if you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to make this guy a fade just because of ownership,
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  Speaker 1: fine that's to each their own. But look at this
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  Speaker 1: on the slate thirty three point one percent to be optimal,
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  Speaker 1: there is actually nobody anywhere else. I think Kamara is
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  Speaker 1: the next closest in the spirit of time speeding it
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  Speaker 1: up Kamara twenty one after that. There's no running backs
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  Speaker 1: on the slate above like fifteen for that. So like
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  Speaker 1: trying to fade this guy to get cute and make
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  Speaker 1: it work good for you I think it's horrible play,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll be honest and upfront about it. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: this is not something you need to figure out how
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  Speaker 1: to get different in some lineups. Yes, that's why you
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  Speaker 1: build a portfolio, but getting mad when Chase Brown starts
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  Speaker 1: getting there is nuts to me. He's sixty two hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 1: His usage is of like a nine K running back
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  Speaker 1: and he's on a slate where none of the other
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  Speaker 1: running backs as many good options as we have, none
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  Speaker 1: of them are sort of in that price range. You
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  Speaker 1: to do that much with it. That's why he's popping
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  Speaker 1: off the dam page. So I think that's important to
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  Speaker 1: remember is you know you don't have to play him,
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  Speaker 1: but you also don't have to fade him just because
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  Speaker 1: of ownership. There is so many ways that you could
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  Speaker 1: get different and one of the easiest ways yesterday which
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get to myself, but how can you use
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  Speaker 1: them differently? Go Russ Wilson, Pickens, Friarmouth Chase Brown. Even
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  Speaker 1: though Brown didn't fully get there on a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these winning lineups, he still scored quite a few points
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  Speaker 1: good for his price, and you would have had the
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  Speaker 1: nuts on the other side if that's the way you
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  Speaker 1: got to it. I saw a lot this didn't work
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  Speaker 1: out either, but I loved that everyone was playing Chase
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  Speaker 1: Brown and the Indie defense. And again not about the
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  Speaker 1: result and what happened, but funny enough, if you're on
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  Speaker 1: Chase Brown and you weren't on Steelers. I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was nice that some people put it together and said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'll beat some of the chalk on
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  Speaker 1: indid and on Chase Brown by plugging it together with
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals defense. So just one example of a guy
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  Speaker 1: that you can get to that is there's just no
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  Speaker 1: need of trying to talk yourself out of it. But
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  Speaker 1: if you want to fade for ownership, I get it
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  Speaker 1: to each the roam, but go ahead and aids anything
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  Speaker 1: else there there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I mean.
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  Speaker 3: The discord was, oh my god, chalk got there again
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  Speaker 3: right when Chase Brown scored right away, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: what do you mean? Like you know how I played him.
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  Speaker 3: I played him with the Bengals defense. He was two
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  Speaker 3: percent owned, right, So there's ways to play them, and
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  Speaker 3: that that's why you play in a portfolio.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: In my five line upset yesterday, I had four Chase
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  Speaker 3: Brown builds and one Chase Brown fade build, but I
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  Speaker 3: faded it with and I leveraged with the Steelers defense,
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  Speaker 3: which was obviously on my main team, which which crushed.
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  Speaker 3: But that's kind of the way. I mean, you just
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  Speaker 3: don't see a thirty three percent optimal and yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: say negative leverage. Guess what he came in at twenty
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  Speaker 3: eight percent owned, So that's almost what eight percent leverage
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  Speaker 3: or seven percent leverage whatever, right, So like it's just
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Just one of those plays. We had it earlier this
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  Speaker 2: week or this year or two, we talked about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just that's one of those plays you eat good chalk, right,
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  Speaker 3: and you get different elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many ways to.
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  Speaker 3: Play a play like that, And he could have literally
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  Speaker 3: buried the entire field for fading him, And now everybody's
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  Speaker 3: touting that, oh I faded Chase Brown.
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  Speaker 2: He was an awful play, right, He could have literally
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  Speaker 2: buried everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is that exactly it, right, especially in
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  Speaker 1: the smaller field stuff. But when people are playing single
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  Speaker 1: entry and stuff like, that's not the spot that I
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  Speaker 1: usually look to get cute at because this negative leverage
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean shit. It's this play versus the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the slate and just that running back alone. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: using part of my process to show you I don't
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  Speaker 1: care about this stuff at all as much as I
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  Speaker 1: care about this and then go looking around to find
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  Speaker 1: guys to beat it and I get it. I even
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  Speaker 1: talked about this on the show yesterday. Like the nice
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  Speaker 1: thing about Pollard, he was one hundred bucks more, but
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  Speaker 1: you had to know what you were playing with when
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  Speaker 1: you did that, right, He's not the same play, he's
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  Speaker 1: not the same spot. He's just he's there at a
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  Speaker 1: similar price point in a very good matchup. But I
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  Speaker 1: kept saying it, you're allowed to play both. I actually
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of lineups that had Pollard and Chase Brown,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm saying I like both those plays, but you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to pick between them always either. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: end it there. We talked about the perfect lineup. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go to the twenty dollars MILLI Maker. But before I do,
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate you when and fellas out's going? Good man?
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: How are you doing all right, doing all right.
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: I was saying I missed a little bit of the
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: first part, but you did touch on the Chase Brown aspect.
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: I don't get the victory laps saying I didn't play
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: Chase Chase Brown because he still had a ton of usage,
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: plenty of opportunities easily could have crushed even harder than
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: he did. I mean he he got. He put up
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: nearly twenty the other options in that range. Again, you know,
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: Brian Robinson Jr. Just came off an ankle injury. You
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: didn't know where he was Pollard, the Titans offense, you know,
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: has been hit or miss the entire year. They were
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: way riskier plays around him. So yeah, you can get
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: cuting to get off of him. But it's like it's
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: not as though it was immediate options you could have
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: gotten to otherwise. It's like Bucky Irving was popular as well.
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: So it again, it's one of those where you know
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: there were other spots to deviate from, And you know,
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: we could probably talk about one of the animales because
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: you know, looking at the Billy Baker lineup, I just
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: I had to laugh because I'm like Westbrook a Keene
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: be getting there again.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: With no volume.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: It's just you know, I know it gets me, I
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: know it gets hooped, but it's just like that guy,
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: he just finds a way, even though he only gets
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: like four targets a game, max, he just finds a
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: way to get get it into the box score.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: It's a it's quite comical.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, love my guy, Dwayne, all business right, just strolls
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: in here, nads and just starts getting right to the process.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I love that about you, and I just so people know,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I've had the pleasure of meeting Dwayne a couple of times,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: a couple of different live finals that we've been at.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: One one he was with his pops, actually brought his
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: dad out to be at it with him there and Stroud.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I know, I know Stroud didn't do everything you wanted
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: him to do that day, but it was a it
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: was a great event and we had a good time.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: So Dwayne has played a ton of dfs across all sports.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I showed it off earlier, Dwayne, But maybe just give
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the people a little two minute spiel about yourself. Obviously
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: you've got the interview coming up on FS Mastermind later
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: this month, but shout out to you, what's sort of
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: your two minute background here you can give the people.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been playing DFS for several years now. I
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: also host the podcast so Fantasy Throw It on podcast
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: on iTunes, Spotify, all the usual spots, but you know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: basically play every sport for the most part on my end.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: So whether it's hockey, football, basketball, you know, baseball definitely
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: cover all times of dreads.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: But it's like, you.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Know, for me, you know, I always try to look
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: at it from the standpoint of different types of the spots.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: So like, yeah, we'll definitely talk to Milly Maker, but
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: I always look at it from the standpoint of especially
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: when we're doing single entry. I think it was just
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: a bad idea for folks that were talking up avoiding Chase.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Brown and single entry.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: It just to me, like certain plays like just make
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: a ton of sense, like and most of the chalk
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: they were all very reasonable aspects to get there. So
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: that's why it was a very you know, straightforward week,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: except for the fact that we had one game turn
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: into at an entirely different script overall with which involved
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: Chase Brown, which which is why Chase rather than crush
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: his hardest because the other guys got there in other
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: aspects because it turned into more of a fire fight
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: between the Steelers and Bengels, which you know, that first
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: half I kind of describe as for the boxing fantas
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: uh haggler hearns round one because like that that total
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: for the first half. I mean even Red Zone was
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: having a hard time keeping up with that game. So
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: you know, again, well hy I know.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I think they said between those two teams, obviously we
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: get the AFC.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Like over fifty years of data between the teams. It's
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: like it's like, what do you gotta do. It's like
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: that that is what you cannot project for. It's like
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: that that that was off the charts.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I always talk about a good sample size. That
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: was a real sample size. So Naid's I'll kick it
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: over to you, man, let's start pulling through this twenty
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: dollars million maker. It was Teddy Bear seventy seven. I'll
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: let you walk through it and then I'll kick it
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: back to Dwayne. Get his thoughts on this one. But
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: it was a Jaden Daniels lineup and a bit of
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: a blowout here right. We saw two thirty six was
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the perfect lineup, only eighteen points off and quite a
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: few ahead of the second place line up here, So
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Teddy Bear not much of a sweat. Nick Westbrook a keena.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I think Hoop called the exact yardage and touchdown yesterday
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: on the show. He said, we know he's gonna get
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: his twenty seven yard touchdowt whatever. I don't know exactly
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: what it was, but it seems like it's the same
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: play every time. Go ahead, Nates.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, first thing I'll say is seven to seven seven,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: little stack raking action right going in on at lucky
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: seven ship to Millie with Jayden Daniels. But the first
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: thing I see is here is you literally capture damn
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: near the entire offense for the for the commanders right
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: at very very low no ownership, right, Terry mclaur in
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: two percent, Jada McDaniel's two percent, Brian Robinson to capture
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: the red zone with b Robbin and Jayden Daniels right,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: one of them, if they're in the red zone is
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: likely going to grab the touchdown. It just so happened
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: that Terry McLaurin caught his four yard touchdown pass for
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: a second one right, So literally you can do whatever
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: you want after you have that main stack, because you
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: know people are spending down at quarterback, right, they're going.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: To Herbert, They're going to Anthony Richardson.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: So you flip the build, right, you go up and
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: you play Brian Robinson, who's also a pivot off to
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Chase Brown. Right, for whoever wants to say that, Chase
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Brown's still good play, But in a way how you
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: don't play Chase Brown. You play it in a sense
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: like this right, where there's a pivot in there. It's
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: attached to your stack, it's attached to the game you're attacking,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: and you run it back with Westbrook a keene which, hey,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: whoever wants to I mean, you can say what you want.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: He's got eighteen catches on the year for seven touchdowns,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: So I mean, you want to talk about volume, it's
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: just not there. But I mean, if you're playing a
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Westbrook a keeney, you want him to be in a
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: game where, hey, you're expecting the commanders to be smashing, right,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: and you get that long touchdown bomb from Westbrook a
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: keene which has happened six weeks in a row, right,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: and he's forty three hundred dollars, So I like that,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and then you just play the good plays around it, right,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Lad McConkie, who doesn't need Herbert, doesn't need any body
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: right attached to him.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: He's just a PPR monster.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: In the Homecoming game right back in Georgia, all all
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: the things there and sixty one hundred.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a wide receiver, one.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: With volume like aj Brown in that and he's two
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars cheaper, right, So that's a great play there,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: and he's just plugging Mike Evans around it, and you
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: land on friar Mouth right there in that high total game. Right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: So overall I like to build a lot.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing that stands out to me is just
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and it only would have cost him one point nine,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: So Dwayne, I'll kick it to you. But also he
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: could have just swapped out. But like, I don't actually
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: love Jayden Daniels Brian Robinson together. It's not if anyone's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: watched for the first time thinks I'm shitting on a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: million Maaker winner. It ain't that I'm the one who
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: always preaches there's nothing to shit on. They won a
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: million bucks. This is the whole point. I'm just saying.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: From a review and build perspective, it's funny he had
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the one hundred bucks. Chase Brown sixty two hundred would
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: have been the secondary stack with Friarmuth, and Friarmuth cuts
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: into that ownership big time. He still comes in way under,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: even though he gets to fifty k and he only
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: loses one point nine and still crushes by ten plus
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: points to ship the thing. So, however you wanted to
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: go about it, I think the lineup is great that way.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I just noticed that after the fact and saw the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: hundred bucks was sitting right there. What's your thoughts on
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: pairing Jayden Daniels and Brian Robinson and then anything else
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you see with this one in particular.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was interesting because you know, I was thinking
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: about that same thing Tampa, like with the Chase Brown
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: one hundred bucks more, but the only like and this
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: was like I was just trying to break it down,
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: like rationalize, like, Okay, Eckler's out, who's actually gonna be
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: a pass catching guy in this offense? And that's where
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: I was kind of leaning towards. It's like, Okay, maybe
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: he's thinking all the work's really going to Robinson because
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: the other guys really aren't known as pass catching backs
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: in terms of McNichols and some of the other guys
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: that they had in Rodriguez, like in terms of that lineup,
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: So you know, basically, maybe you get a couple of
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: catches out of Robinson replacing the work with Eckler instead
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: of maybe a wide receiver. So maybe that was the
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: thought process. But yeah, the same thing I was thinking
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: is just go to Chase Brown. You know, you're it's
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: gonna be the same amount of usage, if not more,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: in a script where he's probably gonna get a little
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: bit more volume than you would expect out of Robinson
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: coming off of the ankle injury.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: That's why I mentioned the risk factor of Robinson is.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Like do the Commanders really want to work him that
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: much in terms of the usage factor.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: But you know, again it worked out in his favor.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: The other piece that I found interesting with the build though,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: was obviously lad was popular, but playing the Chargers defense,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: I wasn't really thinking about that script at all in
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: terms of, you know, you're getting the pass reception from McConkie.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that was the thought process of,
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: you know, pass catcher from McConkie. Maybe it turns into
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: a little bit more of a volume, possession type game
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: because normally you would do the back with the defense.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: The wide receiver with the defense usually indicates like it's
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: a lower scoring game. So you know, maybe they were
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: thinking more pass reception for McConkey, and Chargers defense plays
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: well on the road in the dome, So you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: it was interesting just how that worked out. It's like,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it was the salary of just
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: kind of getting up there and skipping a couple of
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: the more popular options that were just below it and.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Just to get a little bit different, but I thought
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: it was interesting.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that one too, and my guy Kenny,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: let's not even justify the process. I think that even
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: showed Chase Brown in there, it wouldn't be as like
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: people would look at it and just say it's fine.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Like there's a couple other things. I also want to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: talk about two more things with this film. We usually
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: spend more time on this than movement from there. We've
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: got some a lot of good reviews that were sent in,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna bring up some of your guys's lineups
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and look at those as well. But I think this
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: is something you have to keep in mind too, So
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I've done this speech forever. I'll pull it back down
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: so we're not blocking Dwayne's face when it says Lad
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: had twenty five points Herbert had eight. Wild But I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: think this we got to go back now to what
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I always do my speech on around game or team total,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: not equaling player points total, like it's a PPR game.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: We just saw it last week where McBride had what
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: twenty eight or twenty nine fans points and they put
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: up six actual points. The same thing goes with these
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: stacks though, like Mike Baker had twelve, but Mike Evans
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: had almost thirty. You just talked about Herbert had eight
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: but Lad had twenty five. It's not directly correlated. When
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you're talking about guys that aren't necessarily gonna be touchdown guys.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: That's sort of the floor ceiling combination. That's the benefit
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of some of these guys. And then you have to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: have to factor in price, you guys hear me talk
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: about this all the time. A guy like Jamar Chase
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: at eighty six hundred bucks, I want him with Burrow.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: It's not often that he's gonna have his you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: eight for one hundred and sixty zero game where I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: just need him at eighty six hundred, then honestly, is
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that even enough when there's probably guys at forty three
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: hundred that put up twenty one, So it's not necessarily
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: gonna fit the build. I want Jamar Chase for the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: days it's six for one point fifty and three touchdowns.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And now that really boosts because those touchdowns matter so
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: much to Joe Burrow. Those yards start to stack up,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the bonuses, things like that, So you got to keep
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that stuff in mind as well. And that's why you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: can see Bryce Young. Yes, it was nicer to have
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: him with Delan yesterday. Of course that'd be the best
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: way to put them and not play the chalk David
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Moore and all that. But Bryce Young at forty seven hundred,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: if you just you have no clue, he's gonna throw
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: it two between. If you want to pick thelan More, Tremble, Hubbard,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: whoever it might be, you could just play him and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: then get away with this combo pack like they were
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: talking about the combo pack here of Bucky and Mike Evans.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Is what eleven twelve five like, it's it's nothing for
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you need you want four x out of those two.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I think you could see almost three x come from
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: just Mike Evans or just Bucky by themselves. Then you
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: put the two of them together and get almost sixty
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: out of them, Like, that's how you can get away
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: with it, and then nothing says you need Baker for
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: that combo. Of course it can work, and that lineup
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: is gonna make sense too. I'm just saying for starting
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: to understand it and see it differently, of ways you
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: can get away with these things. Price matters too. Fifty
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: eight and sixty seven, they don't got to do as
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: much together. So did either of you have anything else
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you want to add on this one? I think that's yeah.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I just want to hit on al in the chad here.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: So it's very high likelihood that this dude did handbuild
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: because he had seven teams in the Millie and he
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: used six different quarterbacks across seven teams and just kind
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: of spread it out, So very likelihood that he definitely
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: probably handbuilt or virtually handbuilt. He didn't throw in a CSV,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty certain looking at his exposures, so didn't want
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: to call that up. But we're not analyzing it like
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: what new And said in the chat we're analyzing how
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: you can implement a process like this and get to
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: a similar construction. Not going to say that if you
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: do right, it's going to ship the Millie, because that's
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the results oriented. We're just saying, in a process wise,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: how do what we had in front of us yesterday
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: looking at the slate before all the puzzle pieces are
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: there and the pictures in front of us, how could
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: you got onto a build like this that is different
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: than what the field was doing.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of how we're trying to talk through it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: So we never get to play this slate again the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: beauty of the best thos, we get to play the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: next slate. So we're always just trying to take away
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: pull ideas and concepts and theories and things that we
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: can use moving forward. I talk about it all the time,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the new project with DFS Mastermind as a complimentary piece.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: You need ship it Nation, you need tools, data ownership, projections, optimizes,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: whatever you use out there. Obviously we recommend our bias
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to ship it Nation, but you need something to get
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: your starting point ready. But all this type of stuff
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: is what we're taking away to try and figure out
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: where you can be prepared for the next time, and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: how you're trying exactly we're reviewing what the front of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the puzzle looks like, how we could have gotten there,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: trying to apply that moving forward. And Chad said that
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: last statement just changed my entire mentality. So it's like,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: we're trying to give you ideas and concepts where you
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: feel comfortable with it. And I know this is one
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: of the biggest complaints day, and I'll go to you
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: because I'll pull up the five P fifty five in
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: a second that we're about to go to. But this
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: is something that gets talked about all the time. I
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: know you do a podcast and try and talk to
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: things around this stuff as well. Everyone always says, oh,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: all the content is always geared towards mme. Well, this
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: is an MM tournament, sure, but we're taking ideas and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: concepts and trying to boil them down to where you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: could even get comfortable within making a single entry lineup
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: where you're landing on something and saying, does this really
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: make sense? Oh? Tambou, Dwayne and Nad's talked about that
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: last week. I see these prices on this running back
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and this guy, I don't need their quarterback. I still
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: have this stack instead. That makes sense, so I still
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: kind of have it all given together. So I just
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: think it's little things like that. But do you have
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: any thoughts just around you know, boiling the content down
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to just a theory based item.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: No, In terms of where you're holistically trying to approach
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: the slate, is you're trying to find different.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Avenues of where you're gonna build.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: It's like, you know, ideally is like you should have
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: an idea in mind of how many lineups you're gonna
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: play in a given slate, and just from that start
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: working out realistically where am I going to concentrate my
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: exposures towards based on how many lineup you're gonna pay.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: If you're playing one fifty, obviously you can have the
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: larger player pool. If you're playing twenty, it's a different
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: thought process. You should be starting to cauld down those
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: lineups just so you can have a different mix of combinations,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: but have a concentrated court as part of that, just
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: so you're not trying to scatter shot into the wind
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: and hope for the best that it's gonna work out
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: across twenty line up. So that's why you know, again,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: even from the analysis of did he handle or use
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: a predicted its like, yeah, he used a couple of
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: different lineups, but like there was some thought between some
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: of the plays that he did because some of else
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: you weren't necessarily gonna get in a sim necessarily or opto.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: It's like there had to be there. There was some
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: additional tweaking behind the sim. So like that that's where
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: you know, when you start doing the lineup reviews and
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: kind of go through it's like, you know, there probably
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: was some more thought process in terms of overall framework
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: of like how the rosters can get constructed.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he didn't really use the same core one guy.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: He was higher almost fire moods for sure in multiple's
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: indie defense. In multiples, Ladd and Nico were higher. But
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that's also he was on the Houston game as well,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: because Stroud was actually who he had a couple lineups
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: with and then had mixing in the other one. So
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: like little things like that you can always go and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: check and look at. But yeah, it's a good call
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: by justin just to ask what he was doing. That's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: that's the case. But Dwayne take us into this one.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: So this is the five fifty five million maker winner yesterday,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and it is a Bryce Young lineup, so you know,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: can you see it up there on the screen? One.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So this was the interesting one because I saw
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: the stack and it was one of those where it's like,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: you know what I didn't want. I felt good enough
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: about where Herbert was in that lineup where I felt
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Lad should crush like that, I went with Herbert Ladd
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: as my primary sect, but I did like very much
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Baker and Evans.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Our winner went with the other.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Side of the comeback script, necessarily because he still had
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Evans in the lineup with Bucky Irvings, so you're expecting
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Tampa b be putting up points and Carolina to be
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: kind of in a chase script, so to speak.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Now, the aspect here that I thought.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Was really interesting overall, though, was the fact that Dealen
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: was in the flex.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Part of the reason why I think Dealen was in
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: that flex was it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: Still wasn't the entire clear by kickoff that dealing was
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: like all clear, good to go, So you still need
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: that flexibility just in case, you know, some something goes
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: sideways and he isn't all all systems go, because if
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: he's not a system go Like, realistically, part of that
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: slot work probably does go a little bit more to
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: David More or someone else, because primarily Delan was working
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: out a slot yesterday, and I thought that's where you
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: were gonna get your value out of Caroline.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: As a whole. Just in terms of certain aspects of
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: going after Tampa.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: You want to go over the top in the passing game,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Delon can at least work the space of the defense.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: So I thought that was like one of the key
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: aspects of the build is that you know, once you
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: get the confirmation like yeah, you all things are considered,
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: but had backup plans in place of where you can
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: kind of go to whether you know, again it's the
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: flex spot, so you're not limited to wide receiver, so
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe you go to an Andrews or a
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: couple other spots in that high three k four K
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: range where you can kind of do pivot because you know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: obviously you saw he was max Allen salary. So if
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: for any reason dealing's out, he can't go to Lagat.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, you can go to more, but you
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: know that's still leaving a bunch of salary on the table.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: So like you always gotta like start thinking about the
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: possible pivots in certain lineups. But in terms of like
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: the like the studs that you know, we all know
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: about Kamara and Pukah. You know, that was a build
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: that a lot of folks were kind of doing runbacks
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: for in terms of the slight which made a ton
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: of sense, like Pukah's usage and the Rams offense, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: obviously is quite high even with the time he missed
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: being away with injury. And then Kamara. You know, you
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: saw what Sequon did to that defense. So you know, Kamara,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: I had absolutely no issues with playing him in a
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: lineup this week because you know, again he's gonna get
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: the usage. The only fear with Kamara is from the
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: standpoint of just take some go off and you know
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: that you obviously, unfortunately Taysom goes down with injury. But
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: you know that was literally the fail spot for me
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: was not necessarily Kamara failing, but Taysom going off, because
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: usually in Saints games, it's one or the other. So
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: it's so like some people I got questions on you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: can I.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Play them both together?
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: And I'm I'm usually in the mindset of you set
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: the rule of Max one between Taysam and Tomorrow for
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: that very reason, because they're often times like, yeah, once
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: in a while in the Blue Moon, Taysom throws the Kamara,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: but by a large term, negatively correlated.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: So I usually try to keep them separate in my lineups.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: But yeah, to me, Pooka in the run back with Kamara,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I thought made a ton of sense. And then Marvin
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Harrison Jr. Was like the guy that everyone kind of
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: thought was relevant in terms of like some aspects. So
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: like he was in a lot of player pools, but
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: it wasn't as though he was mega popular.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: It was just one of those where you're trying to.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Find a guy in the range and you didn't want
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: to play Brian Robinson, Brian Thomas Junior, so like you
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: you play Harrison for five hundred dollars more again, same
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: point range, so to speak. So you know, again, I
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: had no issues with the bill because all the plays
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: made sense once you kind of factored out. Obviously, the
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Jets defense was very popular. I you know, I had
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: my doubts about the Jets defense, but when you saw
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: that first half from Seattle, that was one of the
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: more comical things immaginal except for the fact that you
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: had to remember.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You had you had to.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Remember that Seattle had the exact same first half pretty
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: much against the Bills like a couple of weeks prior.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: So I don't know what it is with Seattle playing
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: in New York this year, but whatever pregame routine they had,
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: they got to junk that like go for because like
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: they had two of the worst first half you could
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: ever have playing in the state of New York this year,
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: and I can't explain.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It still came back got the dub and Gino like,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: but I.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Will, I'll say that Seattle getting to doubt is the
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: reason why the Jets are having conversations on should we
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: just bench Aaron Rodgers for the rest of the year,
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: because that was as close to unlosable a game can
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: get for chaff start and the Jets still find a
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: way to lose that game like that, that was inexplicable.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Gino wanted to post this little thing there nids the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: chat's talking about this, but I know we had conversation
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: about this all kick at you on this one. But
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the the Marvin Harrison thing, everyone was pissed off. I mean,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: he had seven targets in the first half, which was
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: more than he had the previous week or whatever. And
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: then by the end of the game he had twelve
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and a touchdown and all this everyone seemingly was happy
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that it did go through him, But maybe just talk
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit about that and then anything else you
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: see here with this lineup needs.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the coach speak thing. I was kind of kicking
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: myself a little bit. I still like to play because
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I like the game environment. I liked this price point.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's wide receiver one that can literally get
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: there on one play at six k right, It's not
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: like you're paying ak for this guy and the coach.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Beak coming in.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: But I will just put it, put it out there right,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: just to be hesning in on this coach speak self.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: See it right, Oh, limited snaps That means they come
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: in and they get ten red zone snaps and get
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: every red zone target and catch two touchdowns, right, or
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the game is gonna run through them first drive of
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: the game. It's Connor Connor, Connor, Connor, Connor Connor. Right,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: everybody's tilted the face off. They got to realize Number one,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: football is four quarters long, right, so they play four
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: quarters to football and the game script.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I mean it was there.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I mean it's still he had all the opportunities and
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: he got twelve targets. I mean, you tell me coming
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: into the slate, you get twelve targets for six K
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: in a dome in a high total game, right in
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the Arizona offense. I mean, I'm gonna sign up for
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: that every day, right, But I will say, just be
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: worried about the coach. We see this all the time, right,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: it's limited snaps or limited they're only going to get
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: ten percent STAPs whatever, like Puka, Right, Puka, he's gonna
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: be He's gonna be on a pitch count, comes in
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: and literally has ten catches in the first half, right,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: So stuff like that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Just be worried about that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: The thing about this lineup I see is the two
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: onesie positions right tight end in the defense you got
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: from the early games. You landed on Marvin Harrison from
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: the coach peak, and then you got everything afternoon, right,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: so you avoided all their early talk, right, the Chase
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Brown and all that stuff that we don't have to
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: harp on again. But don't be afraid to just go
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: in on your spots, right, and our guy in the
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: chat talks about I have an overstacked games like I
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: have until I listen to the show, and that just
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: goes back to a parlay. There's a reason twelve leg
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: parlays pay a bazillion times more than a four leg
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: parlay or a three leg parlay. Right, you just need
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: way more shit to go your way then than not.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: So if you're going in on a spot like Okay, Carolina,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Bucky Irving, Mike Evans under price for their roles in
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: this offense, they get it going Bryce Young super cheap,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: with Adam Thielen as a pivot off with David Moore
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: right coming back, and then you just go in on
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: the Camara and pookin the cool volume guys in that
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: popular game, because you know you're different enough, right, you
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: got Bryce and you got Addam Delen, so you don't
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: have to worry about the chalk there. So that's the
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: only other thing I had to add. The Jets defense
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: coming in that popular did kind of surprise me. That
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: was kind of wild, but that's just the nature of
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: the nature of the Beast. I mean, when I don't
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: know when DraftKings is going to go away with this
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: defense position, but hey, it's here to stay for now.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: So they they tried the super Flags model last year
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: as a test.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Run, so we'll see moving forward with the overall strategy,
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: it said.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: But like they were they were experimenting last year.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna add on this one quick did,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Like so we look back. That's the thing, you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: RMD bass eighty one played one lineup and you never
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: know again, we'll never This goes back to Al's point earlier,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: like we can only assess it from what we have
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: at hand, but we know from looking they played one lineup.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: To Nad's point, they did have a lot of afternoon going.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know how good you feel like you gotta
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: feel all right when you get seventeen, fourteen and a
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: half and then sixteen even though it's kind of from
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the chalkiest defense. But what it looks like to me
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: too is like whether or not they late swapped. I
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: don't know again, like I said, we didn't really have
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: the full on set up or the news, but it
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: also looks like they did just plug in, like I'll
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: take whatever I can get from the best plays in
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the afternoon. There's a little bit of a stack in
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: there and see what happens, and in them what happened
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: was a million bucks. So congrats to the winner. But
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: like twenty eight, twenty five, twenty five, fifteen, it was like, Okay,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young, Kamara, Bucky, these are the best two afternoon
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: running backs that everybody likes. Pooka the one that everybody
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: likes goes as a secondary. I still like Mike Evans.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe I can't get to you know, what would it
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: be here? Like I guess it could have been Baker
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: and David Moore, But at this point it's like, I'm
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: gonna go with Bright, with Bryce Young and feelin to
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: give me a little leverage on top of these other big,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: you know, high owned plays. So to me, don't know
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: if they did that, but certainly a topic just to
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: note for what you can do in the future is
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: if you can be comfortable with missing or missing out.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I should say, like comfortable be comfortable being uncomfortable by
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: not playing some of that talk in the morning, letting
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: it go away, and then having yourself set up for
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the afternoon where you could say, look, I still got
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: pretty good scores here. I got an awesome score out
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: of my defense, I got a solid score at another
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: onesie position where it's hard to get points, and it's
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: not that bad for Marvin Harrison an eight percent ownership.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna fill it out now with what
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I think is the best plays from the afternoon. Put
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: some correlation in there and see what happens, and in
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the end it leads you to the top for a
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: million bucks. So yeah, I really thought that was a
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: good one there too. I want to do this one
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: quick shout up to nine to forty boy got the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: job done. Ship a nation member one hundred dollars into
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: one hundred k, the ultimate one here Dwayne Jade and Daniels,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, zach Ertz. Then the combo pack we talked about,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: sorry Pollard on the run back, the combo pack we
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: talked about with Bucky and Evans Thielen on the other
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: side of that, and then a little secondary with the
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Trey McBride and Arizona defense. And I don't hate too
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: tight end in this build. I do hate it and
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: some builds I saw overnight in some of the reviews
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: because one one Titan already fills out with your quarterback,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: so I just I don't even care about that or
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: count it or dock it any points like, it's just
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you're using it to make it happen with what you've
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: got up top. But McBride is not a tight end.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver, top end dude. Like he can
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: put up thirty any given week. We've seen twenty eight
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: twenty ones like things like that. It's you know, thirty
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: is a stretch maybe, but we know it's within the
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: realm of capability. So Dwayne, I'll kick it to you
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: on this one real quick. We talked about a lot
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: of it already, but just quick thoughts here.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, like this kind of goes
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: back into the coach speak stuff.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Is that you know they could see.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: You know again Marvin Harrison Junior grey handed like great,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: but McBride just has to raport with Kyler like that.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: That is the reality of the situation. Is like he
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: still got target but McBride was getting targets too. So
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: to me, I don't have issues with McBride, is you know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: to your point, I treat him as a wide receiver
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: versus a tight end, So no issues there. And then
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: again from the standpoint of if you're doing a standard
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: stack and you one side and half the flow.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: You know, you do you do the Commander's.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Offense is like, you know, you got a pass funnel
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: defense you're going into, so you you target the passing
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: game you got McLaurin Ertz still gets volumes. The curious
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: part where I would be kind of looking at it
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: is just you know, again, you sometimes you can do
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: run backs, sometimes.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: You don't have to.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: I think in this build, like the only thing I
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: would say is like the Pollard run back feels a
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: little bit forced because realistically, you know, Pollard's not really
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: a true pass catching back. So if you know, for
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: some reason, you know, you get a lot of points
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: coming out of Washington side.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: You know, on the run back, you.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Know, I'm not necessarily seeing Levis checking it down to Pollard.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: I see him just airing it out and hoping for
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: the best, whether or not it's a pick six or
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: he gets a touchdown of it. I just see him
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: checking it for for whatever it's worth, like when he
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: gets down bigger. So like, that's the only concern I
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: would have with d type of places where you do
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: the run back with run first running back in Pollard
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: because of the fact that he can kind of get
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: lost in the shuffle in the offense, So I would probably,
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: you know, just again just I would look at him
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: more from the standpoint off. You could probably tilt that
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: into another wide receiver and just shift it back, or
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: just you know, give up the hundred bucks, don't do
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: the run back and just go for a pure annihilation
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: script and just stick with Chase Brown and just leave it,
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: leave it as is. So you take back the hundred bucks,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: go Chase Brown, and take the floor there with Brown
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: without having to do the run back. So, like I said,
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: you don't always have to do the run back. You
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: just got to think about it in terms of the
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: script that you're kind of going with. That's my only
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: issue with the lineup build is that you know, we
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: already talked out the correlation with dealing being in you know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: you got a chance of a comeback script with Carolina
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: and just dump offs like going into the passing game.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Pollard's the only guy I would kind of question, just
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: because I it happened Yesterday's like he kind of gets
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: lost to the shuffle if they get down multiple scores.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to tack onto that because again
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I get why they did it because obviously it's like,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: if I'm gonna, you know, almost double pivot here, I'm
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: not gonna play Chase Brown and I'm gonna use Pollard.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: But I'm already on a Washington stack, so it makes
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: sense to have a runback and again shout out to
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: our guy Steve Jams got the Hunter K shipper here.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: But just to note it, you also already had like
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: you had a two percent, a point one percent and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: eight percent a six percent. Said like, you didn't need
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to get that extra piece of leverage by any means.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: You could have just went and got away with it.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: No problem to have Chase Brown here. And it's not
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: even results oriented that he scored ten more, it's more
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: of what Dwayne just talked about, where you would have
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: needed Pollard to probably get there early on and then
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: cause Jayden Daniels, mclaur and Ertz to be the comeback.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: It's just how much faith do you have in Tampa
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: in Tennessee offense. I think a lot of people thought
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the game was gonna go this way. I mean, Tennessee
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: just had their big week the week before, putting up
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: seventeen in the first quarter where they really gonna do
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: it again and then why It's just tough to say,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: but I felt like I liked Washington to put up
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the points early and often, and that's why I would
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: have been just fine if you had Chase Brown here
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: as well. I'm gonna go to a different one days
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: just because you know, we got time limits and stuff too.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: But our guy Kenny's in the chat and he had
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: a huge day yesterday too, so I'm gonna go to his.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: In the three K. He just plays one lineup, he said,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you know the deal, boys, I play one lineup, So
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I'll kick this one to you first, Naids. But Kenny
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: came third, so so close to two hundred k. It's
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: just I've been there this season myself. It's not ideal.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: It's still a great day. Everyone's like, oh, you're still
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: in a good day, yes, and he's just as happy
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: it's a great day. Never gonna sort of poo poo that.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: But it's also like how close it is, and you
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: don't always get these chances very often, so Nates, I'll
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: kick it to you. His was a Baker Evans Bucky lineup.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: He had David Moore, Chase Brown mix and obviously playing
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit more of the chalk here he used
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: forty nine to eight. This a much smaller field, dough,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: much higher buying right, and eighty dollars two hundred and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: sixty seven entries go ahead and nids.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love this bill. I love how Kenny plays.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: And if you guys haven't out there, check out his
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: interview on Mastermind. You can learn a lot. He plays volume, guys,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: that's just how he does. He knows he plays small fields, right.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Two hundred and sixty seven people in this field is
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: probably his biggest field that he played in on the weekend.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: But I like it a lot.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, he went, he attacked a game. I mean,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: these percentages are higher than what you're going to normally
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: see because of the field size. Right, But he went
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: in different Not many people were on Baker right, so
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: he went Baker, Mike Evans and Bucky Irving. He ate
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: into that ownership a little bit on David Moore because
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: most people were using David Moore as a secondary stack
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: with Bucky, which was the clear cut chalk. He added
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: in Mike Evans and Baker to add on to that.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: The Chase Brown play, he uses a blocker.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: In a field like this.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, you just know that's just the most optimal
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: play in this field. And he leveraged the Kamara, who
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: is also mega chalk in this kind of field with
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Taysom Hill. Right to Dwayne's point earlier, they're negatively correlated.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: If I'm not playing Kamara like yesterday, I was way
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: underweight on kamaraw because that was my process. I just
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: didn't like him, I didn't like the price. I like
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: the other guys in that range. So I was way
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: over on Taysom Hill. That's just kind of the way
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I play it. We talked about that plenty of these
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: weeks right on the shows. Tamba is, if you're not
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: playing Taste, not playing tomorrow, right, Yeah, Well.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: How does Kamara not get there?
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: It's likely because Taysom Hill is the gadget guy, gets
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: in there, runs the read option, runs the wildcat, right,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: gets the gets the running back carriers in the red zone.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Right. So I really like the setup here.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: And he played volume guys and kind of lived in
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: that in that mid tier outside of the spent up
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: running back, which he knew was going to be contrarian
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: because he's not playing Kamara in there.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: So he has the extra money, the.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Three hundred bucks right to get up to Joe Mixon
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: and he flips it with Taysom Hill.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: So overall, I love this build.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I love the thought process, and this is a clear
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: example of building for the field and the contest that
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: you're attacking.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about lineup selection, Go ahead, Dwayne, this is
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the thing, right. It's aighty dollars tournament with two hundred
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and sixty seven entries, and he played this in the Thunderdome.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: He plays, you know, a lot of different tournaments at
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the higher stakes. His interviews on DFS Mastermind, you know
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: you're you're joining on the same show. You're coming up
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: later this month. But he talked about that on there
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and being able to sort of adapt and this was
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: better suited, he said, for his style of play. He
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: realized it's really hard to manage all these lineups and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: figure it out and try and come up with all
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: these different things. He's just better, and he doesn't like
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the home run plays. He doesn't want to play. His
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: example was, which you'll you'll appreciate this the DeShawn Jackson's
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: of the world. Now, maybe it's Mark haz Valdez Scantling
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: or something like that. He doesn't want to go for
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the home run hitters. He wants to see how can
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I play Baker with Evans, with Bucky with More. Okay,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: make that happen. Then I'm not playing Kamara. I play Hill.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: My secondary stack is Mixon and Thomas. Those are both
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: somewhat popular, but not quite I mean, twelve percent of
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Mixon's low in this field, but I can still get
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Chase Brown and the Jets d in there and have
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: two hundred bucks to play with. I thought this was good. Well,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts about that?
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, realistically, this is where you know you have
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: to think about your contest selection a smaller field. This
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: is where you can kind of get away with the
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: David Moore play because realistically, most folks in the higher
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: stakes are gonna play Kamara, and so by playing Hill,
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: you're ready to do the pivot you spend up for mixing.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: You correlate that with the run back with Brian Thomas. Again,
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: it all makes sense. And again in terms of your
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: primary stack with Baker, you have a run back with
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: More where he's.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Still gonna be involved in the offense.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: We still don't know exactly how Carolina's offense is gonna work, but.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: You still have a piece of the Carolina offense.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: Again, it's like because of the running backs he reready selected,
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: You're not You're not necessarily going to a Tommy Tremble
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: or like other place like a like Again, those were
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: the other options, but that would take you out of
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: the concept that he was kind of going for with
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: I'm getting off of Kamara by playing tasom So again
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: and that circumstance, that's where more makes sense because you
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: already have the other high floor plays that are in
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: a high dollar range anyway, So you know a lot
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: of times, like when you're in these smaller fields, there's
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of chalk you're gonna eat into.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: You're just trying to get a little bit different in
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: other spots and again, mix it outscored Chase Brown a couple.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Other plays that kind of gets you in a different spot.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: And then of course Bucky while chalk wasn't the chalkiest
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: play in some of those higher dollar entries, so he
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: still got you an edge over a number of other options.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: That were being played.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: So again, no issues with the build, and especially because
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: you kind of recognize what your competition you're playing into.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: That's so important in terms of these fields of like
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: kind of knowing like what some of the fields size
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: is gonna be, and also where some of the folks
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: are gonna be on the high stake side.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: So it just it worked out and you know, solid builds.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the best players are doing this, like monk Gloven's
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: and other example, Like look at all this ownership. It's
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: but he has one play at point four percent. Ten
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: is like two in these fields, right, Like that's like
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: a lower own because look at all the twenty fives
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: and fifties and sixties and other stuff. Bk Ryder great
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: at all sports, a couple leverage pieces six percent seven percent,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: and just didn't play the chalk D And he could have.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: He had one hundred bucks left to play the chalk
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: D and it would have been the difference in shipping
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the whole tournament. So you know, he gets another eleven
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: points off of that and wins if he had just
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: landed there and he could have got away with it.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: He already had a six, A seven, a ten, I
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: mean a sixteen is lower for this field size. So
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: knowing the field that you're in playing it accordingly. For sure.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I will answer this one too, because justin this is
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a key part of my process. Again, if you don't
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: have ship a Nation, now's the time to go get involved.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Get over there with the Black Friday special. I know
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: you do, so I'm not just speaking to you, but
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: just you know, in general, you should be looking at
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: optimizers and seeing what they're giving. Don't just take it
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: as the be all end all. You use the optimizer
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: as the first piece to say, hey, what does this
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: give me? And then what does that make me think of?
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Using all this theory and stuff that we're talking about.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: And that's actually the video coming out later this week.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I use my ship demizer process. It's an hour and
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes on this on DFS mastermind of me breaking
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: it down and telling you guys how I use an
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: optimizer for that same thing you just talked about. Before
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I go to your line up here in Naids, Kenny said,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: small Field is honestly what got me off of Bryce.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: If you would have told me his ownership ahead of time,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I would have flipped it for Baker. It just didn't work,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: all right. So and then he says, use the opt
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: to figure out what the field is doing exactly. That
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: is the key. You'll know that, and then that starts
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: helping you make decisions with how you want to make
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: your rules, your groups, your build settings. Maybe seeing things
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: differently than others, or you've got it going a different way.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: So just a little tidbit to share their naids, bring
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: your lineup first. We got three or four to get
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: through and try and get through within the timeframe here,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: but Naids, you're up first. This is your lineup. You
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: can walk it through for the people. It's best when
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: you're here that you can tell them why you landed
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: on this and how you got to it.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, real quick, I just wanted to hit
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: on ales Ale's common because he's been super interactive in here.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: The afternoon chalk realistically comes in less chalk in the
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: higher dollar fields you play, because those are the sharper players,
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: and those are the guys doing the late swap.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: They look and see, Okay, who from the early game
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: is likely optimal?
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Right? And what am I behind on the eight ball?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: And if I'm going in the afternoon with snowflakes, I'm
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: probably pivoting off of kamaraw I'm probably pivoting off of
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Puka Nakua.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Right to a guy like Kyron Williams or something like that.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Right, So I will say, the higher you go up
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: and entries or the smaller field size, the ownership chalk
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: that projected coming into the slate is going to be
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: significantly less than what it was projected for because people
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: are trying to make cashes to get to the mid
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: cash if if they're kind of dead for top top prize.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: So didn't want to hit on that on this build.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Right here, I was in on Herbert. Three of my
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: five teams had Herbert. I just like the script a ton,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I like the pay down. I liked what it got
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: me for roster construction wise. So on this build, obviously
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: A paired with Conky. I ran it back with Rey
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: ray the guy that's always forgot in this offense. And
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: the reason I like that also is because of his
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: price point. And I didn't know, right, I didn't know
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: if it's Drake London, if it's Kyle Pitts, if it's
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: b Jhon Robinson, those guys are also way more expensive.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: And Raymond McLoud is forty three hundred, a little bit
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: more than a Donnie Mitchell, right, So I knew going in.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: That he's gonna be low owned.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: He's attached to my game stack, and he's on the
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: field for like ninety five percent of the snaps, right,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: So he's out there, he's getting the targets, he's he's
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: heavily involved. So that's kind of that. I really like
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: the Bucky Irving play. I've been in on Bucky. People
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: are saying, oh, but he's still splitting carries and stuff.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: If you watch the game and you watch the ball,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: it's his backfield, right, it's his offense. I mean, he's
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: clearly a better back. And I thought they were gonna
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: be smashing Carolina, so I didn't think Rashaan White was
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: gonna be super involved as kind of the pass catching back.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: So I like that. I paired up with Adam.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Steelan, who first game back off the injury, got almost
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: seventy percent of the snaps. He's significantly under priced, and
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: last last year we were playing I'm seven K for
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Adam Thielen in this offense, right, and he's going against
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: the biggest pass funnel in all of the NFL in
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: So I like that.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Correlated talked about the Kyron or the taste some play right,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: I was under on Kamara. I had Kamara on one
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: one team, so I tased them on my other four teams.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Just significant just the way that I kind of approached
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: that and the Steelers play I was off. I knew
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I was fading Chase Brown in this team, so I
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: was like, if I'm fading Chase Brown, I'm going up
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: to Joe Mixon right as that pivot. But I'm also
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: going to devil leverage it and play the Steelers defense,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: who hey kind of luck boxed into their score right
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: with the late the late scoop and score.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: But it's just the reason I played them.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Is because I was also I was pivving it up
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: at the top off of camaraw and going up at
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: running back instead of playing the two value backs and
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: throwing in Steelers and then Kyrien Williams because I knew
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Puka and Kupp and Stafford and that in the afternoon window,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: and Kyron had the biggest, biggest I think he was
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: the biggest touchdown favorite on the slate to score right,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: he was like minus two fifty or something to score.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: So I really like that a lot. At his projected ownership.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, they did a lot of flips here. I'm gonna
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: go to the next one. Let Dwayne take a new one.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: But just I'll say quick, not many Herbert lineups had mixing,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: like the affordability wasn't there. So not only that, but
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: you did like a bunch of flips here, like no
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Kamara because you went with the ownership on Hill instead,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: but then cut in by flipping it to the other
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: running back on the opposite side in Kyen Williams, but
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: also paid paid up for the three hundred dollars more
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: running back than Kamara as well. So the Kamara flip
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: alone goes like three ways here because it's mixing instead
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: for three hundred more. Not many have him in the
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Herbert lineups. It's Hill instead of Kamara, and then it's
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: still going to the running back at cheaper at the
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: opposite side in Karen Williams. And then of course I
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: like the Steelers versus Sinci there that you rounded out with.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I'm very curious Dwayne to get your take on this.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: One's a guy Morse eighty four twenty five cent Mini
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Max usually normally played the three dollars twenty Max, but
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: switch up my contest to fit my player pool. So
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I definitely love that you and I think we even
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: had a conversation on the interview. We talked about where
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: you can stay at the same bankroll management each week.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: But if you if you like a bunch more quarterbacks
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you shouldn't just add a bunch
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: more money. You should find contests that fit for your selection.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: My guy degenerate seventy five always does a great job
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: of explaining that some weeks he's eight lineups because he
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: only really likes a couple of quarterbacks. Other weeks he's like, like,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I like this contest with thirty Max Entry, and I
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: happen to like three quarterbacks this week, so I feel
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: better spreading it out a little bit. But I'll let
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: you look at this lineup. I'm most curious about the
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the mixing Collins version of the Bucky Evans. I know
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: he's got Bucky in the lineup, but you give me
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: your take on that and then the rest of the lineup.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So interesting build here, because realistically you're looking at
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: it from the standpoint of obviously Collins was getting some
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: steam but ultimately didn't get there in terms of ownership
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: overall on the slate in my opinion, but mix it,
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: you know, you pay up, but you had a Kamaradier
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: part of the reason why I you know, and I'm
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: curious just in terms of how he ended up on
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: Bryce if it was because he was trying to shove
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: in all these early plays that it's like You're starting
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: to look around to see where can I find some
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: value because you know you're not gonna necessarily get there
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: with Herbert Stacks at that stage. So you know, again
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: when he comes to that Houston Jackson matchup, I definitely
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: saw points there. So I had no issues with playing
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: Collins and Thomas. But like when you combine mixing in there,
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: it's it's a little bit interesting because now you're you're
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: starting to think about, Okay, was he originally thinking Stroud
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: and then you know, wasn't necessarily seeing options that he likes,
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: and then he was trying to think about others Stacks
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: to kind of go after in the afternoon because the
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Bucky play, you know, I think everyone was on but
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: it's like Tremble, you know, great value option in my opinion,
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: that tight end. And then you know, obviously I talked
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: about the Alan has a pivot off of more. But
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: you know, again, it's a little bit interesting dynamic because
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: you're almost in that same mold of Tampa gets up early,
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: all the work goes to Bucky early to get the touchdowns,
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: and then you're in that comeback script with Carolina throwing
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: to get there.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: Like from a correlation aspect, but you.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: Know, okay, yeah, Like believe me, I was attacking Jags
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: D two with Nego mix. I appreciate the feedback there
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: because that that that's the thing. It's like, realistically, the
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: way the Texans offense has gone, it's like because they
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: haven't really gotten the big shots over the top with
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: Tank Dell as they have in the past, Like they
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: have been a little bit more methodical in the passing game.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: So I can see the volume because both Mixing and
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: Collins have been getting reception work. And then you know,
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: obviously the Jags D is very gettable anyway, So like
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: I wasn't worried about the points there, but it is
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: a little bit that interesting dynamic because and I know
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: a lot of people would be saying, you can't you
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: can't use the running back of the wide receiver the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: same stack, and you know, it's not like a hard
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: and fast rule. It's just you have to think about realistically,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: how are they getting there? So I think there's still
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: halfways to get there, And like, you know, I don't
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: have a problem with the build because realistically the runback
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: you have there's a game script involved where you can
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: get there, like the game script and his stacks you
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: can get there towards and then.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: The Atlanta defense.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: It's a play on how popular Herbert is in my opinion,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: So you run that back to go against the heavy
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: chalk quarterback of the day and you see it see
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: it works out, and obviously it did for him, so
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: What you mean way of going about it.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: But it's like I know where floks are gonna like nitpick,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: but like, realistically there's a game script you can work
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: through for both of the stacks that.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: He was using.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to say something too, because that's
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: a couple good points in age. You just brought one
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: up that made me think of that too. So if
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: you weren't. Again, I always say abled this, it's not
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: a free square, but it's if you land there and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: you're not on the other side of it, then to me,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: it's just like it's not a free square, but you
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: just you can plug in Atlanta, don't have Herbert. I'm
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: not playing Maconkey. It's one hundred bucks less than the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: chalk Indie D And same reason I said, again, not
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: results orient did is not like Bengals D did good.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying they were the same price, and a
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: lot of people were playing Chase Brown. That script would
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: make more sense than Indy going up against Drake May,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: who's been running it like crazy and pushing it on
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: the ground more than it's really been him throwing the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: ball around and fumbling and throwing interceptions and making mistakes.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: So to me, I thought that was kind of interesting.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: And then the other thing I'll say about the Mix
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: and Collins thing. The only difference between the Bucky and
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Evans thing to this one is it's a little bit
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: more expensive. But again, if you get the right matchup
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: as he mentioned going up against the Jags D and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I think this matters more, and you get a condensed,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: potentially condensed offense. We know Houston could really just put
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: that ball through Mixon and through Collins. And then, like
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: you said, make it make sense with Thomas Junior on
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the other side coming back to me. The bill makes
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: a ton of sense, and your risk here is really oh,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you got to Tommy Tremble. Well
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: that's fine. Tremble fits the stack. You have to play
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: one tight end and it fills the rest out. So
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I'm actually good with everything to do with that build.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a good way to do it.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Don't have too much time. So rude man, though, has
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: done you know, send in every single week, so I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: didn't want to round it out with with rude man.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I had new ones and wombat up. Shout out to
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: you guys. I appreciate you sending your lineups in. Didn't
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: get a chance to get to them today, but we've
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: had you guys up and on before. But rude man here, Dwayne,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I'll just kick them back to you for two seconds
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: and then nads you can round us out. He had
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: a Stafford cup. What do you got here? Stafford cup?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Taysom Hill did with with the MBA. He walk us
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: through this line, this is go ahead with this one, Baanne,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: give us your thoughts.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So like I could see where he was trying
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: to go for a couple of poppy plays and then
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: you know, he knows Taysom's popular, so you you do
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: that as the run back as opposed to Kamara.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: With the Stafford line.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: The issue I had with h and this is just
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: more in terms of like certain plays in general, like Stafford.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: The issue I have with plays like Stafford.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: In cars that they have to get there with touch
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: like if they can't run, so like, if they're not
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: getting a ton of points in that lineup through the air,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: that's a problem. But the like part of the issue
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: is that with some of those plays that quarterback is
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: that again they have good running backs, so there's a
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: very real possibility that they're gonna run it in for
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: a touchdown, like between Kamara and Kyron. So that's what
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: really kind of neuters the ceiling in a sense for
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: Stafford and Carr because realistically you're not necessarily going to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: see a four touchdown passing game for them in most weeks.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: So it's it's a lower ceiling.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: So now you really have to hit on all cylinders
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: that it ends up being a Cooper Cup game where
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: he gets targeted more than Puka and oftentimes like whoever,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: the rams will ride in the hot hand and receiving,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: so you know, I get the salary difference between Pooka
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: and Cup, well, like why you might select a Cup,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: but it's like in the recent weeks, Puka's been getting
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: to work morning cups, so like that's a little bit
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: of a difficult spot. And then from this other aspect
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: was the AJ Brown play. Again, I would probably look
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: at that more as a you need more shots over
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: the top, and I would probably look at that more
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: as a case for playing Hurts than anyone else. Obviously
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: he has Aaron Jones and Ramandra, but it's like I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: would almost rather you take the salary savings and go
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: down to August Edwards and then pay up for a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: higher ceiling quarterback and pair Hurts.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: With a J. Brown and then for the Will Disleey play.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: You know, it's more like kind of like the box score,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: Like you know, we've seen Disleey get a lot of
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: work in Atlanta's secondary is suspect, so you know it's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: an unfortunate goose EGM.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: But it's like it's under it's understandable.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: But I would say, like the more question wible play
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: probably would be in my case, like take the salary
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: savings at running back because we've had a couple other
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: options in the area that were a little bit cheaper,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: like Bucky I guess Edwards.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: Obviously Edwards didn't get there, but like the thought.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: Process is, I would rather have a little bit more
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: salary to pay up for a quarterback with a little
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: bit more potential. Obviously hurts it didn't get there either, But
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: that's where I would kind of start in the process,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: is that, Yeah, you know the quarterback selection, you were
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: in a very narrow game script where you needed a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: lot of volume to go to cup and for it
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: to be a situation where Taysom also has like a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: higher paced game kind of go for and you know
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: once that game start out a little bit slow like Stafford,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: and that build was never gonna get there. But that's
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: where I would kind of look at it from the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: standpoint of there were a couple of plays where from
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: a game script standpoint, you were in a very narrow window.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: In my like, you can corner yourself in go ahead and.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Aids, Yeah, I have one thing.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: So in a build like this, I like the build
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: if you flip aj Brown to Nikuo. The reason being
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: is to Dwayne's point, right, Stafford likely has to get
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: there three hundred yards three touchdowns. Right, how does that
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: game speed up? Well, Scanty catches a bomb, Taysom Hill
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: breaks off a fifty yard run for a touchdown. Right,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: So I really like that set up if you're going
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: in on Stafford to double stack him, you know, so
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: most people are not double stacking him with the two
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: most expensive guys cup in Nakula, who hey just both
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: got there last week. Right, they can definitely both score
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: twenty five plus and that speeds up the game with
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Scantling and Hill on the other side, and then you.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Fill out the rest of your lineup.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: So that's the only thing I would have did instead
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: of just playing Brown as a one off, which not
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: results oriented in a build like this, to make it
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: make sense for the upside of a Stafford type team
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: on the slate, when you got Herbert in that range,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: you got Anthony Richardson in that range that both have
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: rushing upside, That's the only thing I would have did.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll show it more of my process in
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: the future. But I think just one thing I'll also
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: note that I took away from this lineup is it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: looks like there was like almost a conscious effort to
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: avoid the chalk until like what I would typically call
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: the worst chalk. So just some people know my process
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: part of it, like tight end chock as standalone one
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: offs is typically the worst chok defense as standalone one
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: off is typically the worst chalk. So if you're gonna
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: play no chalk, don't play no chalk and then only
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: at it at what are typically the worst spots to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: play just the chalk. And that's where I would harness
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: in my exposures and stuff like that. But I think
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: it's not against it. It's not saying you can't do it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just giving you the ideas why. Because it's it's
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: a onesie position. You can make it work with your
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: your setup there and pack it in with your quarterback.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: If it's that tight end your defense, you can use
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: it as going against like in this case, I like
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: that you used it against Anthony richardson the lineup, so
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: we didn't see much of today even though he was
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: super popular this week and whatnot and Adie Mitchell. So
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: it's not about where you landed, it's just the way
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the overall build got to. And then I thought Dwaane
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: did a great job of bringing up the aj Brown
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: stuff I just I want him with Jalen Hurts or
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: maybe in some Lamar lineups as the runback, but you know,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: to speed it up or something. Even then it's like,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: if I'm already there, I just want to really rack
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: up the full aj Brown experience and do it through
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. So I'm good with that. I think that's
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: gonna do it for this one, guys. So Dwayne, appreciate you,
• 1:07:52
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• 1:07:56
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• 1:08:00
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• 1:08:00
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• 1:08:26
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• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: know if it's gonna work out well for him in
• 1:08:32
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• 1:08:34
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• 1:08:36
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• 1:08:39
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