Latest / Investor Exchange / Hoe Leong Grows Profit Despite Falling Revenue In FY2025
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:07So I want to start today's deep dive by posing a classic investor riddle to you.
- 0:13Oh, I'm ready. Okay, consider this scenario.
- 0:16How does a company experience a pretty brutal 12.4 percent drop in its yearly
- 0:22revenue, but somehow at the exact
- 0:24same time managed to increase its profit before tax by over 26 percent?
- 0:30I mean, right away, that sounds like a math error waiting to be discovered by
- 0:33an auditor or, you know, some very creative accounting. Right.
- 0:37Because usually when the top line
- 0:38shrinks like that, the bottom line just falls right off a cliff. Yeah.
- 0:41Those fixed costs don't just disappear. It completely defies gravity.
- 0:45But today, we are actually going to look at a company that pulled this off in the real world.
- 0:49We are unpacking the just-released 2025 condensed interim financial statements
- 0:55for a company called Ho Leong Corporation LTD.
- 0:58And if you aren't familiar with them, they basically design,
- 1:01manufacture, and distribute heavy equipment parts.
- 1:04Right. So we're talking about the massive, incredibly durable metal tracks and
- 1:09undercarriage components, the stuff that keeps bulldozers, excavators,
- 1:12and all that heavy industrial machinery moving.
- 1:14It is a highly cyclical, super capital-intensive, nuts and bolts kind of business.
- 1:19It's usually a pretty good bellwether for global construction and mining.
- 1:23Yeah, and our mission for this deep dive is to look right past all the dense,
- 1:27intimidating accounting tables in this report.
- 1:30We really want to analyze these documents purely from an investor's perspective.
- 1:34Our goal is to figure out the true financial health of this company,
- 1:38decode all the corporate jargon, and understand their outlook for the future.
- 1:42We're basically acting as financial detectives today to see how top-line struggles
- 1:46were countered by, well, really aggressive bottom-line defense.
- 1:50Because the top-line struggle here is just undeniable.
- 1:53When you look at the raw data, total revenue for the full year of 2025 dropped to $38.5 million.
- 2:00Wow. Yeah, that is a steep decline from $44.08 million back in 2024.
- 2:05And if you break that down even further, the second half of 2025 was particularly punishing.
- 2:10Revenue in that six-month window just plunged 24.7%. The financial statements
- 2:14point directly to a slowdown in the Asian and North American markets as the primary culprits.
- 2:19When construction or mining activity cools down in those massive resource-hungry
- 2:24regions... The demand for replacement-heavy equipment parts dries up almost overnight.
- 2:30Exactly. I mean, a mining company isn't going to stockpile massive steel track
- 2:34frames if they're slowing down their extraction.
- 2:37They delay maintenance, they cannibalize idle machines for parts,
- 2:40and they simply just stop ordering from suppliers like Ho Leong.
- 2:44Okay, let's unpack this, because here is where we hit the first real paradox
- 2:48of this report. the big aha moment for an investor.
- 2:51Despite this massive drop in overall sales volume, their gross profit margin actually increased.
- 2:57It went from 22.7% in 2024 up to 24.9% in 2025.
- 3:03That is a really fascinating metric to dig into. And just to quickly translate
- 3:06that jargon for a second, gross profit margin is simply the percentage of revenue
- 3:10the company actually keeps after paying the direct costs of making their heavy machinery parts.
- 3:15So like the cost of the steel in the factory later. Right, exactly. Exactly.
- 3:18So when you're keeping almost 25% of your revenue after accounting for all those
- 3:23raw materials, it means you've managed to fundamentally shift the unit economics
- 3:28of what is leaving your factory.
- 3:29In a heavy equipment industry, where raw material costs usually just eat you
- 3:34alive during a downturn, seeing margin expansion on falling volume is incredibly rare.
- 3:39Well, the documents actually give us a brief but explicit answer on how they
- 3:43did it. They achieved this bump by driving, quote, sales of new stocks with higher margins.
- 3:48Which tells us this wasn't an accident. It was a very deliberate inventory strategy.
- 3:52It's kind of like a car dealership operating in a tough economy. Okay.
- 3:56Imagine a dealership that ends up selling significantly fewer cars overall this
- 4:00year compared to last year because, you know, foot traffic is just down everywhere.
- 4:04But the cars they did manage to sell were suddenly all the luxury models,
- 4:07the ones with premium leather seats, the upgraded sound systems, extended warranties.
- 4:13Their total volume of cars rolling off the lot is way down, but their financial
- 4:18cut on each individual sale is significantly bigger.
- 4:21Yeah, that's a great analogy. They essentially shifted their sales mix toward the premium tier.
- 4:25They didn't just slash prices across the board in a panic to maintain factory volume. Right.
- 4:31They focused entirely on the value of the specific items moving out the door. Oh, wait.
- 4:36Selling premium stock is a great survival tactic for right now, sure.
- 4:39But a shrinking pie eventually catches up to you, right?
- 4:42I mean, you can't rely on premium margins forever if your total volume just keeps dropping.
- 4:49There are only so many high margin parts you can sell to a mining sector that
- 4:53is actively slowing down. Oh, absolutely.
- 4:56That is the core vulnerability of this approach. Selling higher margin stock
- 4:59stabilizes the ship in the short term.
- 5:01It buys management some crucial time. Yeah. Yeah.
- 5:04True. Sustainable long-term growth requires market expansion,
- 5:07or at the very least, a stabilization in demand.
- 5:11You absolutely need the overall pie to stop shrinking.
- 5:14And management clearly knew they couldn't just rely on a temporary margin bump
- 5:18to save the entire fiscal year.
- 5:19Which means if the top line is bleeding and you can't control the global macroeconomic
- 5:24slowdown in Asia and North America, you have to ruthlessly control your own house.
- 5:29And Ho Leong went on a serious operational diet to protect its bottom line.
- 5:34To achieve that 26.5% increase in profit before tax, which reached $755,000 for the year.
- 5:42By the way, they slashed their operating expenses across the board.
- 5:46The discipline there is really notable.
- 5:48I mean, distribution expenses dropped by 6.4 percent and administrative expenses
- 5:53fell by 9.5 percent. Wow.
- 5:55When a company is facing a revenue drop of over 12 percent, cutting admin costs
- 6:00by nearly 10 percent shows they are acting quickly rather than just waiting
- 6:04around and hoping for the market to magically turn around.
- 6:06And the financial statements actually give us the tangible realities of those
- 6:10cuts. It isn't just a spreadsheet adjustment.
- 6:12Right. The most glaring example is in their physical real estate footprint.
- 6:15The report highlights that they closed their Clementi warehouse in Singapore
- 6:19after the lease expired in the second quarter.
- 6:21Closing a major logistics hub in a place like Singapore is a massive structural change.
- 6:27Singapore real estate is not cheap, and industrial warehousing carries some
- 6:31really significant overhead.
- 6:32So what does this all mean? Think about the cascading financial effect of closing
- 6:36a major facility like that.
- 6:38You aren't just saving on the monthly lease payment. Yeah, you've got utilities. Exactly.
- 6:43You are eliminating the industrial utility bills, the property insurance,
- 6:47the maintenance contracts.
- 6:49And as the report specifically notes, this closure significantly reduced their
- 6:54packing, delivery and warehouse personnel salary expenses.
- 6:57It really adds up. It's like moving out of an expensive, sprawling downtown
- 7:01apartment into a smaller, highly efficient place further out in the suburbs.
- 7:05You save a ton on rent and utilities and suddenly your bank account looks a
- 7:10lot healthier at the end of the month. even if your actual salary hasn't changed.
- 7:14Yeah, it is an immediate forced injection of operational efficiency.
- 7:18They look at their lowered sales volume and correctly realized, hey.
- 7:21We no longer need the massive storage capacity we are paying for.
- 7:25But doesn't permanently cutting warehouse space and reducing logistics staff
- 7:29kind of hamstring them for the eventual rebound?
- 7:32As an investor, I have to ask, if you trim the fat too aggressively,
- 7:36you eventually cut into the muscle.
- 7:38You can't sell parts to the Asian market if you don't have the capacity to store
- 7:43or ship them when demand finally returns.
- 7:45You're right, and this is the classic tightrope walk of managing a cyclical
- 7:49industrial business. What Ho Leong is executing here is a strategy purely designed
- 7:54to strengthen liquidity during a period of profound uncertainty.
- 7:58In a highly volatile global climate, the cost of maintaining empty excess warehouse
- 8:04capacity for some theoretical future rebound is a luxury they simply cannot afford.
- 8:09Preserving cash today ensures they actually survive to see that future rebound.
- 8:14So they saved on rent and they protected their margins on paper.
- 8:17But as an investor, paper profits and accounting adjustments don't pay the bills.
- 8:21Let's look at the actual cash hitting the bank account. Let's do it.
- 8:24Because this is where the 2025 report reveals something genuinely surprising.
- 8:29Their net cash generated from operating activities absolutely skyrocketed to
- 8:34$4.58 million. dollars.
- 8:37Compare that to just 1.62 million dollars in 2024.
- 8:41That is an enormous jump. A massive jump in liquidity. And that number is critical.
- 8:46Just to define operating cash flow for a second, it's the actual hard cash the
- 8:50business generates from its day-to-day operations. Right.
- 8:53Generating 4.58 million dollars in actual cash, not paper profits suggested
- 8:58by accountants, but hard cash hitting the bank account is the ultimate proof
- 9:02that their survival strategy is functioning.
- 9:04It proves the profits we discussed earlier aren't just an accounting illusion.
- 9:08Here's where it gets really interesting, though. When you dig into exactly how
- 9:11they generated almost $5 million in cash while their overall sales were dropping
- 9:15by double digits, you find hidden treasure in a section most people completely
- 9:20gloss over. Oh, the impairment section. Yes.
- 9:22In 2024, they took a hit, an allowance for bad trade receivables,
- 9:26basically customers who owed them money for heavy equipment parts but weren't paying.
- 9:30The company had to conservatively assume that money was just gone.
- 9:33But in 2025, they report a reversal of impairment of trade receivables, amounting to $335,000.
- 9:41They essentially managed to collect debts they had previously written off as
- 9:45entirely uncollectible.
- 9:47Yeah. And in the heavy machinery space, where invoices can be massive and payment
- 9:51terms can be stretched out for months by struggling clients,
- 9:54recovering that cash is a major operational win.
- 9:57It's the corporate equivalent of finding a crisp $100 bill in the pocket of
- 10:02a winter coat you haven't worn in years. Yeah, exactly.
- 10:05You thought it was lost forever, but suddenly it's spendable cash right in your
- 10:08hand. And it goes much further than just that reversal.
- 10:11Their overall trade on other receivables dropped by a staggering $4.4 million.
- 10:17They aggressively shook the couch cushions and collected the money they were
- 10:20owed across their entire client base.
- 10:22That requires really aggressive credit management. It means getting on the phone,
- 10:27renegotiating payment terms, and forcing clients to settle their accounts.
- 10:31It is a very proactive way to generate cash without needing to manufacture and
- 10:35sell a single new product.
- 10:37But hold on. If their operating cash flow is jumping largely because they are
- 10:41aggressively collecting old debts, this cash influx is a one-time trick, isn't it?
- 10:46Yes. You can't squeeze the same stone twice.
- 10:49Once those old invoices are paid, they can't collect them again next year.
- 10:53Exactly. That's a great point.
- 10:55Squeezing out old debts provides a vital, one-time safety net,
- 10:59not a recurring revenue stream.
- 11:01Once that sponge is dry, the cash flow relies entirely on generating new sales.
- 11:06Right. And that brings them right back to facing the reality of their falling top-line revenue.
- 11:11They have bought themselves liquidity, but they haven't solved the underlying demand problem.
- 11:17Which brings up a glaring question for anyone holding this stock.
- 11:20If the company just generated $4.58 million in fresh operating cash.
- 11:25Normally investors would expect a dividend.
- 11:27Oh, sure. If the company is suddenly flush with liquidity, shouldn't shareholders
- 11:30get a piece of that action?
- 11:32But management is hoarding it, and that leads us directly to the massive legal
- 11:36anchors tying up their resources.
- 11:38Yeah, the litigation detailed in these financial statements is really complex,
- 11:41and it completely explains why management is guarding their cash reserves so fiercely.
- 11:46They are currently entangled in two massive ongoing legal battles in Malaysia.
- 11:52Let's break them down, starting with what I'd call the risk,
- 11:55the auspicious journey case.
- 11:57Ho Leong was forced by a high court order to pay a massive sum,
- 12:029.27 million ringgit. Which is huge.
- 12:07Yeah, which represents half of the general damages in the case into a stakeholder account.
- 12:11And they had to secure this funding by March 2026 just to get a stay of execution
- 12:15while they appealed the judgment.
- 12:17And a stakeholder account functions basically like an escrow account.
- 12:20The company still technically owns the money, but it is entirely locked away.
- 12:24Right. They cannot use it for daily operations. They cannot deploy it for research
- 12:27and development, and they certainly cannot distribute it to shareholders as a dividend.
- 12:32It is exactly like having a massive chunk of your life savings locked in an
- 12:36escrow account that you cannot touch just to keep the bank from taking your
- 12:39house while you spend years arguing over the fine print of a contract with lawyers. That's spot on.
- 12:44The opportunity cost of having almost 10 million ringgit sitting idle is staggering.
- 12:49Now, on the flip side, case two is the win.
- 12:53The Tan Srihalim bin Saad case. In November 2025, the court actually ruled in Ho Leong's favor.
- 13:01They dismissed the plaintiff's claim entirely and even awarded costs to the
- 13:06company and its directors.
- 13:07Securing a complete dismissal and having costs awarded is basically the best
- 13:12possible outcome in corporate mitigation.
- 13:14It removes a massive contingent liability from their balance sheet.
- 13:18But even with the decisive win in the second case, having millions of ringgit
- 13:22completely frozen in the first case sort of paralyzes their ability to operate,
- 13:26doesn't it? Yeah, really does.
- 13:27I mean, how can you confidently invest in designing new heavy machinery parts
- 13:31or open new sales channels when a legal guillotine is hanging over a significant
- 13:35portion of your bank account?
- 13:36The paralysis you are describing is the exact reason why the report explicitly
- 13:40states, and I quote, No dividend has been declared as the group would like to
- 13:44conserve cash for its working capital requirements. It is pure financial self-preservation.
- 13:50Investors absolutely despise uncertainty.
- 13:54And massive multi-year litigation in foreign jurisdictions is the ultimate form of uncertainty. Yeah.
- 14:00Until that auspicious journey case is fully and finally resolved,
- 14:03that locked away cash is essentially a hostage.
- 14:06And the cash they do have on hand must be kept totally liquid to fund their
- 14:11daily operations and any potential strategic shifts. Which makes their future
- 14:15strategy absolutely vital to understand.
- 14:19Because if traditional markets in Asia and North America are cooling down and
- 14:23millions of dollars are tied up in Malaysian courts...
- 14:26Where's the growth going to come from? They need a catalyst.
- 14:29And that brings us to their outlook and a really massive strategic pivot happening down under.
- 14:34Yeah, when you analyze the geographic segment data in the report,
- 14:37one specific region shines significantly brighter than the rest,
- 14:41the Australian division.
- 14:42It was the largest single revenue source, pulling in $14 million for the full year 2025.
- 14:47That's a big chunk. It is. And the outlook section of the document reveals exactly
- 14:52why Australia is sustaining this strong performance while other regions falter.
- 14:56They aren't just selling individual replacement parts in Australia anymore.
- 15:00They're undergoing a major strategic pivot toward a service-focused model,
- 15:05specifically leveraging their expertise in what they call track frame solutions.
- 15:11This is a fundamental shift in their core business identity.
- 15:14Moving from being a simple product supplier to a comprehensive service provider
- 15:18changes everything about how a company operates, how it bills,
- 15:22and how it interacts with its clients.
- 15:24Let's use an analogy to make the mechanics of this crystal clear.
- 15:26The old model was just selling you the parts.
- 15:29You are a mining company. You need a new massive steel tread for your excavator.
- 15:34Here it is. We ship it to your site, wave goodbye, and hope you call us again
- 15:37when it breaks in five years. Right. Highly transactional.
- 15:40Exactly. You are entirely expendable. The new Australian model is different.
- 15:44They are basically becoming the specialized mechanic. They come in,
- 15:48evaluate your specific heavy machinery needs, engineer a custom track frame
- 15:53solution, physically install it, and then sign an ongoing contract to service
- 15:57and maintain that whole system.
- 15:58The financial magic of that pivot is the concept of sticky revenue.
- 16:03Oh, explain that. Well...
- 16:05When you just sell a commoditized part, the customer can easily buy that exact
- 16:09same part from a cheaper foreign competitor the next time it breaks.
- 16:12Right. Whoever's cheapest. Exactly.
- 16:14But when you are the architect, the installer, and the mechanic of their entire
- 16:19track frame system, they rely deeply on your proprietary knowledge.
- 16:22The switching costs for the client become incredibly high. It transforms lumpy,
- 16:27unpredictable, one-off product sales into smoother, highly predictable,
- 16:32recurring service revenue. But they are still ultimately tied to global mining
- 16:36and construction cycles.
- 16:37The company itself states in the report that they maintained a pautious outlook
- 16:41due to a volatile geopolitical climate.
- 16:44If global construction slows down significantly, if fewer holes are being dug
- 16:48in Australia due to falling commodity prices, won't even their shiny new service
- 16:53model take a massive hit?
- 16:54I mean, if the mining machines aren't running, the mechanics don't get called out for service.
- 16:58You're not wrong. The service model provides a stronger buffer,
- 17:02yes, but it absolutely does not provide immunity from a severe economic cool down.
- 17:07A stalled mining operation doesn't pay for preventative maintenance on machines sitting idle.
- 17:13The company's future, as they state directly in their own outlook,
- 17:17depends entirely on exploring new markets to diversify revenue streams.
- 17:21They have proven they can successfully implement this service-heavy model in
- 17:25Australia to the tune of $14 million. Yeah.
- 17:29They have to prove they can replicate that exact same success in other geographic
- 17:33regions to truly insulate themselves from localized economic shocks.
- 17:37And rolling out a service business requires capital, which loops right back
- 17:41to why they are aggressively collecting debts and hoarding their cash instead
- 17:44of paying dividends. It all connects.
- 17:47Okay, we have covered a massive amount of ground today. Let's pull it all together
- 17:50and summarize the key takeaways from these financial statements for the listener.
- 17:54Holy On Corporation is a truly fascinating case study of an investor's mixed bag.
- 18:00It really is. It is a company navigating extreme cross-currents.
- 18:04On one hand, you have shrinking global sales driven by macroeconomic factors
- 18:10totally outside their control.
- 18:12Right. On the other hand, you have highly disciplined management,
- 18:15executing aggressive cost-cutting, intentionally moving higher margin inventory,
- 18:20and displaying incredible efficiency in collecting cash and clearing out old bad debts.
- 18:25They survived a 12.4% revenue drop by getting leaner and meaner and actually
- 18:30grew their profit before tax.
- 18:32Yet that heavy legal baggage in Malaysia is forcing them to play extreme defense
- 18:36with their balance sheet.
- 18:38They are hoarding all that hard-won cash, meaning investors looking for yield
- 18:42shouldn't hold their breath for a dividend anytime soon.
- 18:45Ultimately, it seems their entire growth narrative rests on this promising but
- 18:50highly capital-intensive transition to a service model in Australia.
- 18:53They are a company at a major crossroads, navigating a very difficult industry
- 18:58storm with a tight, deliberate grip on the ship's wheel.
- 19:01Which leaves you, the investor, with a final, provocative thought to mull over
- 19:06after the steep dive is done.
- 19:08Think deeply about that Australian pivot. If the physical parts distribution
- 19:12business continues to face relentless global headwinds,
- 19:16unpredictable cyclical downturns, and cheaper foreign competition,
- 19:20could a heavy manufacturing company like Ho Leong eventually shed its manufacturing roots entirely?
- 19:27Oh, wow. Could we see them evolve over the next decade strictly into a highly
- 19:31specialized consulting, engineering, and service firm for the mining industry?
- 19:35And if they do manage to pull that off, how do you even begin to value a company
- 19:40that is right in the middle of such a profound identity crisis?
- 19:43Something to think about as you review your portfolios.
- 19:46This content is intended to serve strictly and only as an informational,
- 19:50independent, objective summary of recent events and should in no way be interpreted,
- 19:55construed or relied upon by any party as inside information or financial advice.